The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre

[Cripplecreek]

Well...yeah, Thor epitomizes masculinity and Dr. Who, not so much.

Exactly. Dr Who has always been a character that overcame physical shortfalls with intelligence. William Hartnell was an elderly man when he took on the role as the first doctor. Only Christopher Eccleston was a truly masculine actor to play the role and he played the Doctor as the traditional pacifist.

It should be noted that the Daleks call The Doctor "The Predator".

[kevindavis007]

Kill all others is an episode of Electric Dreams.

A politician casually mentions that we have to kill all "others" for our own survival and it becomes a rallying cry with a vague target to kill all others. Even asking who the "others" are is proof that you are one of the others.

That was an good episode..

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

Well...yeah, Thor epitomizes masculinity and Dr. Who, not so much.

Marvel's ignorance and disconnect goes way beyond that.

Under actual Viking Law implying that another man was regi (in the original) 'unmanly' covered cowardice, effeminate behavior, cross dressing And homosexuality.

It gave the target of the accusation an airtight legal defense for killing the person who slandered him, on the spot.

[kevindavis007]

Well, the franchise he started was probably the most successful ever ... so there's that.

And I know nothing about his actions with females but we're finding out that Hollywood, including TV, was a cesspool.

I agree. He did that..


I read book by Robert Justman and Herb Solow about the behind the scenes in Star Trek..  It is very interesting. 

[Sanguine]

Marvel's ignorance and disconnect goes way beyond that.

Under actual Viking Law implying that another man was regi (in the original) 'unmanly' covered cowardice, effeminate behavior, cross dressing And homosexuality.

It gave the target of the accusation an airtight legal defense for killing the person who slandered him, on the spot.

I have to admit to gross ignorance on all thing Marvel. 

[kevindavis007]

I do.

Idiocracy.

I hope not, but I think you are right.

[kevindavis007]

It has been successful, spawning a host of spin-off story lines. I guess it depends on how you define successful, but in the media world, that just means you are the guy to beat on the bottom line. Competition is and will continue to be fierce. As for length of run, though, Dr. Who has Star Trek beat hands down.

Then SG-1 would come in second.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

I have to admit to gross ignorance on all thing Marvel.

Marvel needed to admit to gross ignorance on All things with that stunt.

THRYMSKVITHA, The Lay of Thrym

http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/poe/poe11.htm



Thor's hammer is stolen by a Giant. Loki hatches a plot to help Thor get it back.

The Giant wants Freya for his wife in exchange for the hammer.

Loki gets Thor to travel with him, in drag, as Freya the prospective bride.

At the Giant's table, Thor, in drag, eats an entire Ox, rousing suspicions.

Word games ensue.

Thor gets his hands on his hammer, and his eyes glow, blood red.

He then kills every Giant in the Hall, in part for the horrific indignity of having to go dressed as a woman.

And he wasn't a bit happier with Loki over it than he was with the Giants.

[sneakypete]

Loki gets Thor to travel with him, in drag, as Freya the prospective bride.

At the Giant's table, Thor, in drag, eats an entire Ox, rousing suspicions.

THAT's funny,I don't care who you are.

[kevindavis007]

Take a look at this:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP9wkTEgORI

[Emjay]

Ursula LeGuin died today at the age of 88.  A legend in SciFi writing.

[Machiavelli]

Ursula LeGuin died today at the age of 88.  A legend in SciFi writing.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,297509.msg1583268.html#msg1583268

[Gefn]

THAT's funny,I don't care who you are.

@sneakypete
@To-Whose-Benefit?

I am not married to Loki or Thor or anyone!!!   

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

@sneakypete
@To-Whose-Benefit?

I am not married to Loki or Thor or anyone!!!   

@Freya
@sneakypete
@musiclady

Nor are you really Freya.

Times in Scandinavia 1,000 years ago were tough.

People, and Gods, had 2nd jobs to make ends meet.

Freya's 2nd job was Leader of the Valkyries.

And they weren't lovely centerfold babes.

More like the Ancient Greek Harpies they hovered over the battlefield Choosing who would Die and Sending them Death, before carting them off to Valhol.

Here's my word for word translation of their names from the original Old Norse.


Hrist: To Shake: as in Shudder, Shock, an Earthquake: from Hrista: To Shake.

Mist: To Avenge: from the Slavic name Mmsti: To Avenge.

Skeggjöld: Old Beard. The Viking Bearded Ax had an extended cutting tail on it called a beard.

Skjógul: Skjóg: Forest, and Ulfr: Wolf: the Forest Wolf

Hlökk: possible variant of Hrörri: Sword

Herfiotr: Army Fetterer: Hirð: a company of men, usually military, fjoturr: to fetter

Hildi: Battle

Þruð: Might (Þor’s daughter)

Göll: Gollr, the talon or claw of a hawk.

Geirölul: Geirr: Spear, Olla: to cause, as in Valda: Authority

Randgrið: Rand: Shield, Grið: Peace, IE, peace through triumph of shields.

Raðgrið: Counsel (of) Peace IE: Accept Peace, on our terms, or else

Reginleif: Regin: Power of the Gods, Leif: Inheritence or Legacy


And for that matter, it is not Valhalla.

It is Valhol, a compound word meaning, exactly, Carrion Hall.

[sneakypete]

Ursula LeGuin died today at the age of 88.  A legend in SciFi writing.

@Emjay

Yes,she was,and a name I remember from my teens.

[sneakypete]

@To-Whose-Benefit?

Times in Scandinavia 1,000 years ago were tough.

People, and Gods, had 2nd jobs to make ends meet.

Freya's 2nd job was Leader of the Valkyries.

And they weren't lovely centerfold babes.

HEY! Stay the hell out of my dreams!

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

@sneakypete
@musiclady 

Odin practiced magic (taboo for mortals) and wandered around among them in disguise, as Hagbard.

So the idea that Freya could 'shape-shift' too is wide open.

From Goddess of Love, in a bugs bunny way with her cats dragging her blessings all over the map, hooking up the wrong 2 people, to Corpse Goddess Leader of the Valkyries luring men to their death.

It's telling me our Ancestors were a lot sharper than they're given credit for.

How many men who Should have known better have got themselves killed chasing some woman who is not what she appears to be into a fight?

[Gefn]

@sneakypete
@musiclady 

Odin practiced magic (taboo for mortals) and wandered around among them in disguise, as Hagbard.

So the idea that Freya could 'shape-shift' too is wide open.

From Goddess of Love, in a bugs bunny way with her cats dragging her blessings all over the map, hooking up the wrong 2 people, to Corpse Goddess Leader of the Valkyries luring men to their death.

It's telling me our Ancestors were a lot sharper than they're given credit for.

How many men who Should have known better have got themselves killed chasing some woman who is not what she appears to be into a fight?

Freya was cool because she kicked butt and had cats. I like her. Plus she was pretty, and smart. I am happy to have her as a role model. I wish I had her courage, and could kick ass like she could.

Plus to have a carriage on cat power instead of horse power, how neat is that? The first cat woman!!!!

@To-Whose-Benefit? Meow

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

@Freya

Well, there is much positive to be said for her too.

She was 100% Equal with Odin, possibly even his wife under another name. No secondary role or status for Viking women whatever the various, and sometimes conflicting, laws said.

She had her own Hall in Asgard which was equal with Odin's Valhol. It was called Sessrumnir, which means 'Many Rooms'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freyja

You wish you had her courage? Look deep inside. It's there.

[ABX]

Exactly. Dr Who has always been a character that overcame physical shortfalls with intelligence. William Hartnell was an elderly man when he took on the role as the first doctor. Only Christopher Eccleston was a truly masculine actor to play the role and he played the Doctor as the traditional pacifist.

It should be noted that the Daleks call The Doctor "The Predator".

Don't forget John Hurt.

[catfish1957]

I think that's why it's my favorite of the group. It's was very cagey and raw compared to the others. Not that I condone Archer's behavior, but it beats the politically correct crap some of the others got into.

ST Enterprise. is by far my favorite Sci-Fi series.  Terribly underrated.  Kirk was cheesy, Picard was a p---y.   Archer is a true example of what a Star Fleet Captain should be on this franchise.

I Netflix binge watch the whole series annually. 

[catfish1957]

The reality is this, who knows what our future will be like?


Will it be like The Expanse?
Will it be like Firefly?
Will it be like Star Trek?
Will it be like Babylon 5?
Will it be like The Orville?




Who knows..

My guess is that we will be stuck within our own solar system, so I'll vote for The Expanse.   

I'll bet we will find intelligent life somewhere else out there during the history of human kind, but the technology won't be there to reach them or communicate easily.

[Gefn]

A great poll idea

Who was your favorite doctor (who)



(Mine is Tom Baker)

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

My guess is that we will be stuck within our own solar system, so I'll vote for The Expanse.   

I'll bet we will find intelligent life somewhere else out there during the history of human kind, but the technology won't be there to reach them or communicate easily.

We may return to the moon, possibly Mars, but the way we're going, it'll be harder and harder as Slaves to Govt.

[sneakypete]

The reality is this, who knows what our future will be like?


Will it be like The Expanse?
Will it be like Firefly?
Will it be like Star Trek?
Will it be like Babylon 5?
Will it be like The Orville?

Who knows..

@kevindavis

The Shadow knows/

[ABX]

The reality is this, who knows what our future will be like?


Will it be like The Expanse?
Will it be like Firefly?
Will it be like Star Trek?
Will it be like Babylon 5?
Will it be like The Orville?




Who knows..

We seem to be going the way of Idiocracy.

[Joe Wooten]

We seem to be going the way of Idiocracy.

Agreed.....

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Sorry for the foul language.

[kevindavis007]

I wonder when the SyFy channel will go away.

[Ghost Bear]

I wonder when the SyFy channel will go away.

I wonder if there is something that is causing you to wonder that...   

[ABX]

I wonder when the SyFy channel will go away.

Their ratings do seem to be having issues.

https://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/syfy-tv-show-ratings-updated-33879/

[kevindavis007]

I wonder if there is something that is causing you to wonder that...   

It seems to me that a lot of shows have been streaming either on Amazon, Netflix or CBS All Access..

[Suppressed]

Sorry for the foul language.

It's fake. L.F. doesn't have an account.

[kevindavis007]

Meh:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itqq9hzLapk

[Formerly Once-Ler]

It's fake. L.F. doesn't have an account.

That is too bad.  It was funny.  Thank you for correcting me and the record.

[kevindavis007]

EXCLUSIVE: SEE ONE OF RICHARD HATCH'S FINAL PERFORMANCES IN WEB SERIES PERSONAL SPACE
http://www.syfy.com/syfywire/exclusive-see-one-of-richard-hatchs-final-performances-in-web-series-personal-space

[Free Vulcan]

Been watching Altered Carbon on Netflix. It's fairly creative, generally good presentation and dialogue, has it's moments, and is sometimes even profound.

Still, the writing and directing needs to be a bit tighter and more focused. It tends to flop around aimlessly too often for me, and there's way too much blood and nudity.

[ABX]

Speaking of Netflix, they dropped the 3rd Cloverfield movie early. Watched it last night. It was very interesting and a different view of the Cloverfield incident. I won't give too much away but it is a bit more Aliens and Event Horizon versus how the first Cloverfield movies were.

[kevindavis007]

Spoiler Alert:





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARbHXtx94fU

[ABX]

I binged watched the entire new series Altered Carbon on Netflix on Friday and Saturday. It is really good, no matter what the critics say. It is a good cross between Blade Runner and The Matrix. Yes, it has some plot holes, yes, some of the character development is not well done, but the world creation is great, the CGI is excellent, and the story/concept is good.

Just a note, this isn't for children. This would be a hard R rating, a lot of nudity and sex. Nothing that offends me (albeit, I'm not one to be offended by anything) but some may be turned off by that.

[ABX]

[sneakypete]

I binged watched the entire new series Altered Carbon on Netflix on Friday and Saturday. It is really good, no matter what the critics say. It is a good cross between Blade Runner and The Matrix. Yes, it has some plot holes, yes, some of the character development is not well done, but the world creation is great, the CGI is excellent, and the story/concept is good.

Just a note, this isn't for children. This would be a hard R rating, a lot of nudity and sex. Nothing that offends me (albeit, I'm not one to be offended by anything) but some may be turned off by that.

@AbaraXas

Thanks for the review. I have it saved for later viewing,but now I will bump it up a few notches. Finished Ripper Street this week,and got caught up on Shameless.

[Ghost Bear]

I binged watched the entire new series Altered Carbon on Netflix on Friday and Saturday. It is really good, no matter what the critics say. It is a good cross between Blade Runner and The Matrix. Yes, it has some plot holes, yes, some of the character development is not well done, but the world creation is great, the CGI is excellent, and the story/concept is good.

Just a note, this isn't for children. This would be a hard R rating, a lot of nudity and sex. Nothing that offends me (albeit, I'm not one to be offended by anything) but some may be turned off by that.

Spouse and I watched the first episode of "Altered Carbon" Saturday night. We both enjoyed it. It has some intriguing world-building and SF concepts. However, both of us found the episode too "dense" to watch more than one episode at a time. We needed to watch something lighter to decompress afterwards. But, we'll keep watching it.

[Free Vulcan]

Season 4 of Z Nation just popped up on Netflix.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

[Gefn]

There's a new SF cartoon series that just launched on TBS last week called "Final Space".

Pilot episode is free on iTunes. I downloaded it will watch it tomorrow I think

[Machiavelli]

Why can’t Star Trek: Discovery commit to serialized storytelling?

Chaim Gartenberg
The Verge
February 13, 2017

Star Trek: Discovery has staked a lot on the idea that it was telling a different kind of Star Trek story — a tighter, more plotted-out version of Trek instead of the crisis-of-the-week style of earlier shows, which were designed to meet the needs of cable syndication. But Discovery — which just wrapped up its first season on Sunday — didn’t embrace long-arc storytelling. The creators and writers divided the season and its story into disparate pieces, and crammed them so full of flashy plot twists and reveals that the series rarely reached beyond hammering home its core conceit: that war is bad, and morals are good.

And boy, does Discovery want its fans to feel the weight of that motto. The show’s cycling plotlines looped from the pilot (almost unrelated to the larger story), to the nearly standalone middle episodes, to the larger Klingon war arc, the Mirror Universe detour, and then the slightly different second Klingon war plot. And throughout, the writers’ room seemed willing to try any tactic to get that central point across. But by shattering the season into fragments of stories, Discovery ended up with characters who barely changed over 15 episodes. They spent the whole season going through the same motions in whatever Mad Libs scenario a given episode required.

More

This is not Trek. It's an abomination.

[kevindavis007]

‘Lost In Space’: Netflix Remake Gets Premiere Date & First Look
http://deadline.com/2018/02/lost-in-space-netflix-remake-premiere-date-first-look-1202297639/

[kevindavis007]

Here is a quick recap on The Expanse:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEQame19KVY

It comes back on April 11th.

[kevindavis007]

http://www.mormonthink.com/glossary/battlestargalactica.htm