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« Reply #650 on: December 28, 2016, 11:11:43 am »
I have to say, your setup sounds quite a bit like John Ringo's "Black Tide Rising" series.

Nah, not a zombie story at all. These are just minor character snippets I'm throwing in. The main characters are the soldiers we send to Nemesis while Earth is battling the invaders. In other words our handful of soldier are opening a "Second Front" (which is the title of my book)

Second Front - book one, anyways

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« Reply #652 on: December 28, 2016, 03:57:58 pm »
Just saw this.  It's not exactly SF, but it's interesting:

https://www.amazon.com/Star-Ark-Self-Sustaining-Spaceship-Springer/dp/3319310402/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482955109&sr=8-1&keywords=Star+Ark

Interesting but I note that they use the word "sustainable" which excludes me from having any interest in it. That is generally a code-word for "feel-good" sciency stuff which has little or no connection to reality.
Anyway, in less than 100 years we will surely reach AI singularity and all of the planet's resources and funding will be withdrawn from any other use than building huge idols in every city and town praising the All-Supreme Great Super-Mind and promising unconditional, undying absolute obedience to its every slightest whim and command. Amen. 

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« Reply #653 on: December 28, 2016, 04:23:51 pm »
Interesting but I note that they use the word "sustainable" which excludes me from having any interest in it. That is generally a code-word for "feel-good" sciency stuff which has little or no connection to reality.
Anyway, in less than 100 years we will surely reach AI singularity and all of the planet's resources and funding will be withdrawn from any other use than building huge idols in every city and town praising the All-Supreme Great Super-Mind and promising unconditional, undying absolute obedience to its every slightest whim and command. Amen. 


Uhh... I'll just point out that in an ark-ship, "sustainable", and especially "self-sustaining" (which is in the sub-title of the book) is something very much desired, since it means the passengers won't have to depend on resources outside of the ship. And since they have no idea what the environment of their destination will be like, or even if there will be any resources available there, "self-sustaining" is very good indeed.
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« Reply #654 on: December 28, 2016, 05:38:07 pm »
Here is an idea for a book.

Colonists are selected for intelligence and physical attributes--strength, agility, endurance. Not for any specialized skill set. They are injected with a retro-gene set that causes them to devolve while in cro-sleep. When they awake the ship AI releases them on to the colony world. Kinda/sorta like Planet of the Apes in reverse. They aren't devolved back more than a few tens of thousands, or hundred(s) thousands of years.

Also prior to release they are reinjected with a reversal gene set that will affect the next couple of generations.

The AI has projectors, etc., that sets itself up as "god".

A random thought.

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« Reply #655 on: December 28, 2016, 08:13:50 pm »
Here is an idea for a book.

Colonists are selected for intelligence and physical attributes--strength, agility, endurance. Not for any specialized skill set. They are injected with a retro-gene set that causes them to devolve while in cro-sleep. When they awake the ship AI releases them on to the colony world. Kinda/sorta like Planet of the Apes in reverse. They aren't devolved back more than a few tens of thousands, or hundred(s) thousands of years.

Also prior to release they are reinjected with a reversal gene set that will affect the next couple of generations.

The AI has projectors, etc., that sets itself up as "god".

A random thought.

The AI "god" sounds a little like The Old Man in The Cave from the Twilight zone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Old_Man_in_the_Cave

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« Reply #656 on: December 29, 2016, 09:43:23 am »
Here is an idea for a book.

Colonists are selected for intelligence and physical attributes--strength, agility, endurance. Not for any specialized skill set. They are injected with a retro-gene set that causes them to devolve while in cro-sleep. When they awake the ship AI releases them on to the colony world. Kinda/sorta like Planet of the Apes in reverse. They aren't devolved back more than a few tens of thousands, or hundred(s) thousands of years.

Also prior to release they are reinjected with a reversal gene set that will affect the next couple of generations.

The AI has projectors, etc., that sets itself up as "god".

A random thought.

I like your idea a lot.  Author Gene Wolfe explored a similar theme in some regards in his book Nightside the Long Sun. His characters have gods to contend with and to help them in that story. Wolfe's stories are refreshing because he tends to write from the first person and your understanding of what is going in tends to clarify as the character's own awareness of reality increases. I like the "dawning realization" style of plot development because it feels more natural - like reading a detective novel, perceptive people can sometimes figure out what is going on before the narrative reveals it overtly.

Some of the details of your story-line might be tweaked to bring them into line with scientific fact. For instance, human genome has not altered appreciably since about 4 million years ago when sapiens sapiens split off genetically for good from the other proto-human sub-types.

Most of the evolution that human beings have gone through has been cultural and psychological in the last 20 thousand years.  To find a significant genetic event which fundamentally altered human morphology one would likely have to go back about 200,000 years when the brain size seems to have greatly increased (probably due to turning the corner in the starvation problem). Human beings nearly died off several times in the span of time, mostly due to famine (as far as archeologists can tell). Once humans mastered social cooperation and tools, we could prey on other animals (herbivores) which were more efficient at foraging the abundant vegetation than we, and defeat any predators. Those capabilities filled in the last key pieces of the puzzle that would make Humanity able to avoid extinction handily for the rest of time and take our place at the top of the food chain permanently.

NOTE: The above event is represented in dramatic fashion in the film 2001: A Space Odyssey although it is placed much further back in time (millions of years instead of thousands). Likely something like what is portrayed in the movie could have happened in distant prehistory, but the anthropological record seems to indicate that the problem of starvation plagued proto-humans and nearly snuffed them chronically until humans achieved social cooperation skills and essentially started hunting in organized groups with fairly sophisticated weapons and building at least semi-permanent societies and primitive structures for shelter (circa 30,000-20,000 BC). Humans are like ants in the sense that we are social animals, we are not truly superior without social systems to support us. 

The explosion of brain size (discussed in research into human brain evolution published in Ghost in the Machine, by Arthur Koestler) 2000 centuries ago was mostly in the cerebral cortex due to the ability of well-nourished humans to experience a quantum increase in neural density (because we finally had the calories available to develop it in infancy/early childhood and could defend our young from early death). Humans got a lot more intellectually capable in all probability at roughly the same time and never looked back (relative to the other mammals). This event is portrayed with dramatic effect in the fine film Clan of the Cave Bear (with the magnificent Darryl Hannah in the lead role, before she lost both her looks and her mind).

The other great fundamental change in consciousness likely occurred about 12,000 to 8,000 BC, when examinations of cave paintings and later hieroglyphics indicate that human beings started developing an operative understanding of being separate from our environment and the difference between the waking state and the dream state.

Even as late as the ancient Egyptian period, artwork indicated that human beings had not fully understood that dreams were not reality nor did they fully grasp the separation between animals/humans and the environment (known as "ego separation" to psychologists and anthropologists).

The latter development is significant because until human beings understood that we were not part of the environment but that we possessed free will entirely apart from the forces of nature, we were not capable of developing any sort of mature understanding of our possible relationship to a deity. IOW, until we understood who WE were as entities in the universe, we couldn't understand what a god was.

This latter development was likely not morphological (related to brain size) but rather a psychological development related to generational changes in how human mythology and awareness gathered information until a threshold of understanding of reality was achieved.

Sorry for the long exposition, but the topic is fascinating  in relation to your idea - what sort of god has power over a mind that sees the universe differently from the way a modern human sees the universe. 
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« Reply #658 on: December 29, 2016, 01:38:35 pm »
Here's another not-SF essay that is quite interesting, and could be the basis for some interesting SF:

http://warontherocks.com/2016/12/five-giant-leaps-for-robotkind-expanding-the-possible-in-autonomous-weapons/
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« Reply #659 on: December 29, 2016, 06:05:23 pm »
What I had more in mind is the 'colonists' would be in a more primitive state and the AI as a holographic teacher. Showing the new colonists simple things. Making fire, knapping tools, etc. Build up civilization. One of the things I think that would be difficult is to retain a technically oriented society on a new world. The new colonists would be of fresher mind. More in the attempt to seed man through the stars.

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« Reply #660 on: December 30, 2016, 01:54:59 am »


In one of my story ideas the probe lands and begins producing humans, no need for cryo. It gives them the basic knowledge they would need to survive and also the impetus to move on and explore.

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« Reply #661 on: December 30, 2016, 04:22:12 pm »
It's not quite the same, but the story "Terraforming Earth" by Jack Williamson... has an automated moonbase set up with human genetic samples.  It's purpose is the recolonization the earth after a giant asteriod is set to hit the earth. 

That sounds interesting.

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« Reply #663 on: December 30, 2016, 10:17:10 pm »
She asked me name my foe then. I said the need within some men to fight and kill their brothers without thought of Love or God. Ken Hensley

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« Reply #664 on: December 31, 2016, 08:54:15 am »
They have season 1 on Amazon Prime. Worth the view?


Yes, however, I wouldn't take my word. I happen to just like just about anything that takes place in Space (with GOT and Vikings being the exception).
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« Reply #665 on: December 31, 2016, 08:54:47 am »
FYI: The Twilight Zone marathon is on the SyFy channel..
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« Reply #666 on: December 31, 2016, 09:09:39 am »

Yes, however, I wouldn't take my word. I happen to just like just about anything that takes place in Space (with GOT and Vikings being the exception).

I can space out at the drop of a hat.
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« Reply #667 on: December 31, 2016, 09:50:46 am »
I can space out at the drop of a hat.


I can't.. I'm a space junky..
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« Reply #668 on: December 31, 2016, 08:42:45 pm »
They have season 1 on Amazon Prime. Worth the view?
I think so. I enjoyed it.
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« Reply #669 on: December 31, 2016, 10:03:32 pm »
FYI: The Twilight Zone marathon is on the SyFy channel..

For several years (years ago) they had the episodes planned so that "The Midnight Sun" would run at midnight Eastern time.  One of my favorite episodes, but for some reason this year it's running on Sunday afternoon.   :shrug:
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« Reply #670 on: December 31, 2016, 10:11:54 pm »
For several years (years ago) they had the episodes planned so that "The Midnight Sun" would run at midnight Eastern time.  One of my favorite episodes, but for some reason this year it's running on Sunday afternoon.   :shrug:

My favorites are The Obsolete man and The Hunt.

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« Reply #671 on: December 31, 2016, 10:22:26 pm »
My favorites are The Obsolete man and The Hunt.

Both excellent episodes!  But don't forget "Time Enough at Last".  ^-^
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« Reply #672 on: December 31, 2016, 10:35:01 pm »
My favorites are The Obsolete man and The Hunt.


The Obsolete  Man is my favorite .
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« Reply #673 on: January 01, 2017, 07:22:13 am »
Happy New Year... Here is hoping 2017 is good year in Science Fiction.
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« Reply #674 on: January 01, 2017, 11:22:24 pm »
Happy New Year... Here is hoping 2017 is good year in Science Fiction.

Happy New Year... I didn't watch any of the Twilight Zone marathon this year.   :shrug:
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« Reply #675 on: January 01, 2017, 11:47:40 pm »

Yes, however, I wouldn't take my word. I happen to just like just about anything that takes place in Space (with GOT and Vikings being the exception).

Game of Thrones..... in space!!!!!!

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« Reply #676 on: January 01, 2017, 11:56:51 pm »


They can't run too well in those armored suits, lol.

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« Reply #677 on: January 02, 2017, 12:10:34 am »

FYI: The Twilight Zone marathon is on the SyFy channel..


I've seen them all too many times. After watching the typical space soap-operas, Voyager, SG1, Atlantis, and others for a couple of months, I finally took a break and started watching Alfred Hitchcock presents. I was surprised at what a good show it is. The stories are intelligent, very well thought out, and usually have a twist ending. It is nice. Ray Bradbury wrote seven episodes for Hitchcock between 1956 - 1964. Hitchcock had some great writers.


Over the holidays I have been enjoying The Outer Limits, which again, I am enjoying very much. Television as it was made back then, is so far away from what we have today. I enjoy Big Bang and Family Guy once in while, but these show simply cannot compare to the classics. Before I had streaming TV, I watched Fox News almost constantly, with some History Channel and Discovery thrown in.


But with HULU, I am actually enjoying television shows again. Once I burn up HULU, I will likely see what else is out there. Sling, Netflix, DirectTV, among others. But as it stands now, according to my very specific tastes in television, HULU, FNC, History, Discovery Channel, is giving me more than enough content to keep me busy and satisfied.


Once I got my streaming TV system setup, it opened up a world of entertainment that I could not access before. And best of all, it is less than half of what I was paying before. As a user review, I cannot say enough about it. It is great.
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« Reply #678 on: January 02, 2017, 11:16:49 am »

I've seen them all too many times. After watching the typical space soap-operas, Voyager, SG1, Atlantis, and others for a couple of months, I finally took a break and started watching Alfred Hitchcock presents. I was surprised at what a good show it is. The stories are intelligent, very well thought out, and usually have a twist ending. It is nice. Ray Bradbury wrote seven episodes for Hitchcock between 1956 - 1964. Hitchcock had some great writers.


Over the holidays I have been enjoying The Outer Limits, which again, I am enjoying very much. Television as it was made back then, is so far away from what we have today. I enjoy Big Bang and Family Guy once in while, but these show simply cannot compare to the classics. Before I had streaming TV, I watched Fox News almost constantly, with some History Channel and Discovery thrown in.


But with HULU, I am actually enjoying television shows again. Once I burn up HULU, I will likely see what else is out there. Sling, Netflix, DirectTV, among others. But as it stands now, according to my very specific tastes in television, HULU, FNC, History, Discovery Channel, is giving me more than enough content to keep me busy and satisfied.


Once I got my streaming TV system setup, it opened up a world of entertainment that I could not access before. And best of all, it is less than half of what I was paying before. As a user review, I cannot say enough about it. It is great.

Ever seen the Venture Brothers? I get the feeling that show would be right down your main street.
The local library might have them and they are also on Adult Swim cable (or used to be) and likely Netflicks or other streaming. The writing is fairly tight and fast paced so it can be exhausting if you try to watch an entire season in one fell swoop ( or far worse, do a marathon). I'd start from Season #1 - just because. Maybe limit yourself to one episode every four hours just to give your brain cells time to recharge.
 

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« Reply #679 on: January 02, 2017, 12:09:39 pm »
Ever seen the Venture Brothers? I get the feeling that show would be right down your main street.
The local library might have them and they are also on Adult Swim cable (or used to be) and likely Netflicks or other streaming. The writing is fairly tight and fast paced so it can be exhausting if you try to watch an entire season in one fell swoop ( or far worse, do a marathon). I'd start from Season #1 - just because. Maybe limit yourself to one episode every four hours just to give your brain cells time to recharge.
 


I'll second the vote for Venture Brothers. Brilliant satire that is at the same time a brilliant example of genre (SF, Thriller, Spy, Action, Superhero, Mystery, Boy Adventure... pick your genre!)  Seasons 1-6 are currently available on Hulu. And yeah, every episode is very dense... I often want to go back and re-watch immediately to pick up on the bits that I missed on the first viewing. But it's worth it!

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« Reply #680 on: January 02, 2017, 12:17:51 pm »
I'll second the vote for Venture Brothers. Brilliant satire that is at the same time a brilliant example of genre (SF, Thriller, Spy, Action, Superhero, Mystery, Boy Adventure... pick your genre!)  Seasons 1-6 are currently available on Hulu. And yeah, every episode is very dense... I often want to go back and re-watch immediately to pick up on the bits that I missed on the first viewing. But it's worth it!

P.S. - Just being pedantic, but judging by her costume in the pic, that's not Dr. Girlfriend but actually Dr. Mrs. The Monarch.   ^-^

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« Reply #681 on: January 02, 2017, 02:33:56 pm »

Ok, well now I feel absolutely obligated to check out Venture Brothers and yes, it is on HULU.


After three thumbs up in a row, now I have to see it. I'll get back to you after I watch a season or two. May take a while.
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« Reply #683 on: January 03, 2017, 01:14:41 pm »
Game of Thrones..... in space!!!!!!


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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #684 on: January 03, 2017, 01:16:13 pm »

I've seen them all too many times. After watching the typical space soap-operas, Voyager, SG1, Atlantis, and others for a couple of months, I finally took a break and started watching Alfred Hitchcock presents. I was surprised at what a good show it is. The stories are intelligent, very well thought out, and usually have a twist ending. It is nice. Ray Bradbury wrote seven episodes for Hitchcock between 1956 - 1964. Hitchcock had some great writers.


Over the holidays I have been enjoying The Outer Limits, which again, I am enjoying very much. Television as it was made back then, is so far away from what we have today. I enjoy Big Bang and Family Guy once in while, but these show simply cannot compare to the classics. Before I had streaming TV, I watched Fox News almost constantly, with some History Channel and Discovery thrown in.


But with HULU, I am actually enjoying television shows again. Once I burn up HULU, I will likely see what else is out there. Sling, Netflix, DirectTV, among others. But as it stands now, according to my very specific tastes in television, HULU, FNC, History, Discovery Channel, is giving me more than enough content to keep me busy and satisfied.


Once I got my streaming TV system setup, it opened up a world of entertainment that I could not access before. And best of all, it is less than half of what I was paying before. As a user review, I cannot say enough about it. It is great.


That is why paid subscription TV (Cable and Satellite) is losing customers.
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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #685 on: January 03, 2017, 01:22:06 pm »

That is the The Expanse.

A lot going on in The Expanse.

The Mormons building an enormous ship and fixin to go interstellar is interesting to say the least.

I haven't  read the books but I know that it goes well beyond our solar system.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Expanse_(novel_series)#Plot_synopsis

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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #686 on: January 03, 2017, 01:23:39 pm »
A lot going on in The Expanse.

The Mormons building an enormous ship and fixin to go interstellar is interesting to say the least.

I haven't  read the books but I know that it goes well beyond our solar system.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Expanse_(novel_series)#Plot_synopsis


Lets just hope the show last long enough so they show the Interstellar portion. Also, I would just join the Church of the LDS if they are going Interstellar.
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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #687 on: January 03, 2017, 09:08:54 pm »

Lets just hope the show last long enough so they show the Interstellar portion. Also, I would just join the Church of the LDS if they are going Interstellar.

EVERYONE is Mormon. There are only the 7+ billion people who haven't figured that out.  ^-^
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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #688 on: January 05, 2017, 08:05:21 pm »
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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #689 on: January 07, 2017, 03:52:09 pm »
NBC’s gorgeous Emerald City is a Wizard Of Oz that’s neither great nor powerful

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The Scarecrow isn't a scarecrow, but he is introduced in a crucifixion pose. The tin man isn't The Tin Man, either, but he is the result of a horrifying, Frankenstein-style experiment. The lions aren't cowardly--the citizens of Oz speak of them as if they'll tear your throat out. The Munchkins have swapped out dandy fashions for tribal facepaint. The Wicked Witch Of The West runs a brothel. Welcome to Emerald City, the dark reimagining of L. Frank Baum's Oz stories that debuts on NBC after a nearly three-and-a-half-year trek down the yellow-brick development road.
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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #694 on: January 07, 2017, 09:04:43 pm »
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Boy, I cant wait until they come out with a hip version of night life in Sodom and Gomorrah.
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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #696 on: January 08, 2017, 05:44:52 am »
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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #697 on: January 09, 2017, 11:25:02 am »
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Great post, Mac! (and you still have the best avatar on the site, IMO)

The brutal truth is that much or most of H-Wood production is focused on the cacogen market -people who define a "book" as a Marvel comic book or porn magazine and who view classic culture (literature, art, music) with sneering, defensive contempt.

H-Wood panders to the sorts of people once represented in the SNL skit with Dan Ackroyd (back when that show was actually funny) where he is a chain-smoking Mafia guy who snickers when reviewing a painting by Titian (pronouncing the artist's name "Titty-yan). Another representation of the mentality of those who generate the mountains of insipid, shallow pabulum H-Wood cranks out, was when one of Kurt Vonnegut's mogul-characters was denied the right to purchase the Mona Lisa from the Louvre, and so retaliated against the curators by placing a photograph of the painting in an international advertisement with a cigarette hanging out of her mouth.

So much of H-Wood garbage seems focused on appealing to a sadistic desire on the parts of some to mock, debase, defile, minimize, marginalize and insult classic culture in any form.

Vonnegut observed how so many people of coarse nature view culture as valueless unless it generates a "bottom line". In the case of the bleep who debased the Mona Lisa, Vonnegut states how the attitude of the wealthy vindictive vandal who did it is, "One can't tolerate beauty which threatens to get the upper hand".
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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #698 on: January 09, 2017, 12:51:02 pm »
you still have the best avatar on the site, IMO

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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
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