Ted Cruz wows crowd, woos delegates in Monroeville

[ABX]

God, guns and abolishing the IRS propelled an enthusiastic crowd of more than 800 people to their feet, cheering for Texas Sen. Ted Cruz as he campaigned in Western Pennsylvania for the first time Saturday.

“I come here this morning with a word of hope and encouragement all across Pennsylvania and all across this country: Help is on the way,” said Cruz.

Cruz repeatedly brought the crowd in Monroeville's Gateway High School auditorium to their feet with a 34-minute speech full of Republican red-meat.

He promised to repeal “every word of Obamacare,” pass a simple flat tax, and pick Supreme Court nominees who would champion religious freedoms. He vowed to increase military funding and kill terrorists. He declared he'd end what he called Obama's war on coal.....

http://triblive.com/politics/politicalheadlines/10354667-74/cruz-trump-delegates

[libertybele]

Perhaps I'm reading more into his speech then was meant, but I found it rather comforting and unsettling at this same time as he states:
“I come here this morning with a word of hope and encouragement ...  all across this country: Help is on the way,” said Cruz.  Regardless of what happens, I do believe that one way or another Cruz will lead us to restoration.

[AnybodyButaDem]

800 people?

That's a landslide win in Lyin' Ted's scheming mind.  Definitely worth 50 of the 71 delegates up for grabs in PA.

[AnybodyButaDem]

Perhaps I'm reading more into his speech then was meant, but I found it rather comforting and unsettling at this same time as he states:
“I come here this morning with a word of hope and encouragement ...  all across this country: Help is on the way,” said Cruz.  Regardless of what happens, I do believe that one way or another Cruz will lead us to restoration.

My question is, what is his plan after "abolishing" the IRS, even with a flat tax.  Who is going to enforce those evading taxes?  Will there be mandatory money taken out of paychecks?  What about 1099 contractors like me who pay taxes either yearly or quarterly?

Hope and Encouragement is this year's Hope and Change.

Designed to fool dumb people with no specifics other than the fool's errand of "abolishing" the IRS.  Reform?  Sure, it's needed.  Downsize?  Hell yes.

[libertybele]

My question is, what is his plan after "abolishing" the IRS, even with a flat tax.  Who is going to enforce those evading taxes?  Will there be mandatory money taken out of paychecks?  What about 1099 contractors like me who pay taxes either yearly or quarterly?

Hope and Encouragement is this year's Hope and Change.

Designed to fool dumb people with no specifics other than the fool's errand of "abolishing" the IRS.  Reform?  Sure, it's needed.  Downsize?  Hell yes.

Mark my words.  Do not underestimate Cruz.   

[AnybodyButaDem]

Mark my words.  Do not underestimate Cruz.   

Saying you're going to abolish the IRS is good red meat, but unfortunately there needs to be some sort of tax enforcement agency.  Preferably not political, and gut it to put in honest citizens who aren't hyper-partisan on either side. 

[libertybele]

Saying you're going to abolish the IRS is good red meat, but unfortunately there needs to be some sort of tax enforcement agency.  Preferably not political, and gut it to put in honest citizens who aren't hyper-partisan on either side.

Really?  That's pretty obvious don't you think?

Ted Cruz 2016.  Reigniting the Promise of America!   

[Chosen Daughter]

Perhaps I'm reading more into his speech then was meant, but I found it rather comforting and unsettling at this same time as he states:
“I come here this morning with a word of hope and encouragement ...  all across this country: Help is on the way,” said Cruz.  Regardless of what happens, I do believe that one way or another Cruz will lead us to restoration.

We need hope.  Ultimately my hope is in the Lord Jesus Christ.  No matter what happens in this election.  Hope lives in me.  I believe that is the same for Ted Cruz.

[AnybodyButaDem]

Really?  That's pretty obvious don't you think?

Ted Cruz 2016.  Reigniting the Promise of America!   

What's obvious?  Who enforces the tax code if the IRS is "abolished?"  I'd actually like to know that answer.

[Chosen Daughter]

What's obvious?  Who enforces the tax code if the IRS is "abolished?"  I'd actually like to know that answer.

Not the corrupt IRS.  Downsize.

“Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but Democrats believe every day is April 15th.” – Ronald Reagan

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[libertybele]

What's obvious?  Who enforces the tax code if the IRS is "abolished?"  I'd actually like to know that answer.

I am not speaking for Cruz, but the obvious is it would become the duty of the states.  Quite frankly, I believe that income tax should be abolished along with the IRS and the Federal Reserve...but that's another unpopular idea.

[Fantom]

800 people?

That's a landslide win in Lyin' Ted's scheming mind.  Definitely worth 50 of the 71 delegates up for grabs in PA.

At least Lion Ted can win his state...Scam Wow..not so much, trump was schlonged...terribly schlonged by Hillary and Sanders.. Scam Wow came in a distant third...a far distant third... trump was schlonged in his home state worse than Ned Beatty in Deliverance.

"Whine like a punk trump"... "Squeal like The Donald"

[Bigun]

Saying you're going to abolish the IRS is good red meat, but unfortunately there needs to be some sort of tax enforcement agency.  Preferably not political, and gut it to put in honest citizens who aren't hyper-partisan on either side.

Yes but nothing like the corrupt IRS is required! Not at all.

[AnybodyButaDem]

I still haven't received an answer on who enforces the federal tax code.  Why should the states pay for it?

Come on, let's talk some substance here.  Cruz said he'd abolish the IRS; what does he replace it with at the federal level to go after tax evaders?  I pay taxes because I know if I don't and I'm audited, I'm paying heavy fines at the best, and going to prison at the worst.

Anyone?  Come on Cruz people, this is your chance to talk policy!

[AnybodyButaDem]

We need hope.  Ultimately my hope is in the Lord Jesus Christ. No matter what happens in this election.  Hope lives in me.  I believe that is the same for Ted Cruz.

Do you think Jesus likes you telling me I have trouble understanding things when it's you making the ludicrous claim on how illegal immigrants are voting for Trump in CA?  Is insulting people's intelligence because they call out your lie in the path of Jesus?

[Frank Cannon]

Saying you're going to abolish the IRS is good red meat, but unfortunately there needs to be some sort of tax enforcement agency.  Preferably not political, and gut it to put in honest citizens who aren't hyper-partisan on either side.

Thanks for finally outing yourself as the leftist you actually are Carling. That is why you are a natural fit for a Rat Commie like Trump.

[Bigun]

I still haven't received an answer on who enforces the federal tax code.  Why should the states pay for it?

Come on, let's talk some substance here.  Cruz said he'd abolish the IRS; what does he replace it with at the federal level to go after tax evaders?  I pay taxes because I know if I don't and I'm audited, I'm paying heavy fines at the best, and going to prison at the worst.

Anyone?  Come on Cruz people, this is your chance to talk policy!

The department of the Treasury! The individual states do the collecting and most of the enforcement while getting compensated for it!

http://fairtax.org

[AnybodyButaDem]

Thanks for finally outing yourself as the leftist you actually are Carling. That is why you are a natural fit for a Rat Commie like Trump.

Why don't you read the rest of the thread?  Keep in mind Cruz has been on the government dole most of his life.

[AnybodyButaDem]

The department of the Treasury! The individual states do the collecting and most of the enforcement while getting compensated for it!

http://fairtax.org

So we're basically making the states not only collect their own taxes, but also the taxes of the federal government, too?  So basically we're adding a layer of government, and having states make massive hires, in order to collect federal taxes?

Seems like a dumb idea to me.  Why not streamline the IRS, get rid of the corruption, and let the states do their job without having to do the federal government's as well?

[Bigun]

So we're basically making the states not only collect their own taxes, but also the taxes of the federal government, too?  So basically we're adding a layer of government, and having states make massive hires, in order to collect federal taxes?

Seems like a dumb idea to me.  Why not streamline the IRS, get rid of the corruption, and let the states do their job without having to do the federal government's as well?

Completely and Totally wrong! In fact it's 180 degrees from the truth! The states already have Tax collecting apparati in place! Adding Federal tax collections would be complete childs play and the states would be fairly compensated for their efforts!

[Frank Cannon]

Why don't you read the rest of the thread?  Keep in mind Cruz has been on the government dole most of his life.

So has Trump. What do you think Bankruptcies are.

[AnybodyButaDem]

So has Trump. What do you think Bankruptcies are.

A way to save thousands of jobs using existing tools.  Let's not forget Ted Cruz' sugar momma's Goldman Sachs also got a nice fat bailout with TARP, too.  Or are we forgetting that one?

[AnybodyButaDem]

Completely and Totally wrong! In fact it's 180 degrees from the truth! The states already have Tax collecting apparati in place! Adding Federal tax collections would be complete childs play and the states would be fairly compensated for their efforts!

Like they've been with ObamaCare?  Or MediCaid?  Or the Stimulus Bill?  Or...

You trust the federal government's ability to release funds a lot more than I do.  Once a Democrat is back in office, do you think they are going to expedite payments to Texas?  Really?

[Bigun]

Like they've been with ObamaCare?  Or MediCaid?  Or the Stimulus Bill?  Or...

You trust the federal government's ability to release funds a lot more than I do.  Once a Democrat is back in office, do you think they are going to expedite payments to Texas?  Really?

Wrong again! Texas and every other state takes their cut BEFORE the fed portion gets remitted to treasury!

[AnybodyButaDem]

Wrong again! Texas and every other state takes their cut BEFORE the fed portion gets remitted to treasury!

That's a good point.  My questions mainly lie with LLCs like mine and other ways to organize a small business.  The IRS is massive compared to state tax collection agencies.