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Re: Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
« Reply #225 on: April 22, 2016, 07:23:34 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on April 22, 2016, 07:07:21 pm
SOCONS are a cancer on our Republic.  

They're tantamount to Progressive Prius owners with CO-EXIST bumper stickers.

Is this how you Trumpkins intend to unify the party?  Driving 30% of it out?

Not that most were going to support Trump anyway.  They weren't especially since Trump is softening his abortion stance, little by little.
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Re: Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
« Reply #226 on: April 22, 2016, 07:33:22 pm »
Quote from: A-Lert on April 22, 2016, 07:08:50 pm
Look, the whole girl's bathroom and locker room thing could be handled by parents quickly. Withdraw your kids from school and fire the school administrators.

Yet it's about Trump and political correctness isn't it?  If people are condemned for not wanting someone of the opposite gender using their restrooms, isn't that a PC issue that Trump has condemned?  I don't know.  I thought he made it a campaign issue.  "Political correctness is killing our Country"  D. Trump.
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Re: Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
« Reply #227 on: April 22, 2016, 07:34:24 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on April 22, 2016, 07:07:21 pm
SOCONS are a cancer on our Republic.   

They're tantamount to Progressive Prius owners with CO-EXIST bumper stickers.

Gee thanks, DC.

Glad to see you want to drive all of us pro-life people out of your "Republican" Party.
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Re: Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
« Reply #228 on: April 22, 2016, 07:35:13 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on April 22, 2016, 07:07:21 pm
SOCONS are a cancer on our Republic.   

They're tantamount to Progressive Prius owners with CO-EXIST bumper stickers.

That's a pretty sad thing to see here DC.   **nononono*
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Re: Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
« Reply #229 on: April 22, 2016, 07:36:40 pm »
Quote from: AnybodyButaDem on April 22, 2016, 06:23:00 pm
While I disagree with Trump on this one, I also don't have 22,000 employees and numerous business interests that would be "boycotting" and protesting every Trump property, and the media calling him a bigot 24/7. He wisely took that line of attack off the table, and since the President has literally zero say over this states' rights issue, why not protect your business along with the thousands of people under his employ.

Social conservatives aren't voting for him anyhow, so politically I think this was the only move he could make.

If and when he becomes POTUS he will still have those employees and run that risk with every decision he makes.

So then, as POTUS whose best interests will he be thinking of when faced with the hard choices?

His business interests or the nation's and the people's interests?
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Re: Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
« Reply #230 on: April 22, 2016, 07:38:43 pm »
Quote from: MACVSOG68 on April 22, 2016, 07:35:13 pm
That's a pretty sad thing to see here DC.   **nononono*

Goes a little beyond just disagreeing intelligently with people like me, doesn't it?

Lovely to be called a "cancer" just because I hold the values that everyone held not that long ago......      **nononono*
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Re: Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
« Reply #231 on: April 22, 2016, 07:43:31 pm »
Quote from: A-Lert on April 22, 2016, 07:05:35 pm
How is one to discern the actual sex of a person dressed as a man or a woman? We have to assume until?  Cross dressers and transgenders are nothing new.

The same way we've been doing it, by not offering legal protection to perverts.
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« Reply #232 on: April 22, 2016, 07:45:04 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on April 22, 2016, 07:07:21 pm
SOCONS are a cancer on our Republic.   

They're tantamount to Progressive Prius owners with CO-EXIST bumper stickers.

wow. That is just insane
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Re: Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
« Reply #233 on: April 22, 2016, 07:45:29 pm »
Quote from: MACVSOG68 on April 22, 2016, 07:33:22 pm
Yet it's about Trump and political correctness isn't it?  If people are condemned for not wanting someone of the opposite gender using their restrooms, isn't that a PC issue that Trump has condemned?  I don't know.  I thought he made it a campaign issue.  "Political correctness is killing our Country"  D. Trump.

It isn't a political fight worth fighting. Again, how are you able to tell a transgender or transvestite until after the fact?  The courts are deciding.

http://fox40.com/2016/04/20/transgender-teen-wins-federal-case-over-bathrooms-title-ix/
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« Reply #234 on: April 22, 2016, 07:47:23 pm »
Quote from: geronl on April 22, 2016, 07:43:31 pm
The same way we've been doing it, by not offering legal protection to perverts.

How do you know what sex a person is in a public restroom? Do you physically check them out?
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Re: Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
« Reply #235 on: April 22, 2016, 07:47:30 pm »
Quote from: A-Lert on April 22, 2016, 07:45:29 pm
It isn't a political fight worth fighting. Again, how are you able to tell a transgender or transvestite until after the fact?  The courts are deciding.

http://fox40.com/2016/04/20/transgender-teen-wins-federal-case-over-bathrooms-title-ix/

The five o'clock shadow.
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Re: Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
« Reply #236 on: April 22, 2016, 07:49:55 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on April 22, 2016, 07:34:24 pm
Gee thanks, DC.

Glad to see you want to drive all of us pro-life people out of your "Republican" Party.

 :odrama:
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Re: Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
« Reply #237 on: April 22, 2016, 07:51:28 pm »
Quote from: Luis Gonzalez on April 22, 2016, 07:47:30 pm
The five o'clock shadow.

Like that on Pelosi and Hillary?
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Re: Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
« Reply #238 on: April 22, 2016, 07:55:24 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on April 22, 2016, 07:38:43 pm
Goes a little beyond just disagreeing intelligently with people like me, doesn't it?

Lovely to be called a "cancer" just because I hold the values that everyone held not that long ago......      **nononono*

I just don't think he really believes that.  Known him too long.  Probably just the stress of this whole damn primary season. 
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Re: Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
« Reply #239 on: April 22, 2016, 07:55:54 pm »
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Re: Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
« Reply #240 on: April 22, 2016, 08:09:43 pm »
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The bathroom deal is a big fat nothing burger. The exception thing in the platform is worrisome, but it more realistically reflects the standard GOP position which is basically a cowardly do nothing but lie to the voters position about something they plan to mostly ignore except when campaigning and asking for donations.

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Re: Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
« Reply #241 on: April 22, 2016, 08:13:49 pm »
Quote from: A-Lert on April 22, 2016, 07:45:29 pm
It isn't a political fight worth fighting. Again, how are you able to tell a transgender or transvestite until after the fact?  The courts are deciding.

http://fox40.com/2016/04/20/transgender-teen-wins-federal-case-over-bathrooms-title-ix/

As I'm sure you're aware, there are jurisdictions that now have no questions asked.  Just as with gay marriage, the courts will ultimately rule, and no doubt this one has a long way to go.  But part of the issue again is Trump, whose campaign against political correctness seems to have met limits.  Will he stand up for those who are being called bigots because they want some gender privacy, or because they don't want their 10 year old daughter to have to share the restroom with some 60 year old 250 pound male?  I can live with gay marriage as long as religious institutions aren't forced to participate.  They have their privacy; I have mine.

This issue is different.  The privacy that the left so emphatically demanded has now been turned on its head.  My granddaughter has no right to privacy or a feeling of security, and to demand that for her is tantamount to bigotry.  This is a big PC issue right out of the Donald's own campaign.  So where is he?
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Re: Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
« Reply #242 on: April 22, 2016, 08:17:28 pm »
Quote from: MACVSOG68 on April 22, 2016, 07:55:24 pm
I just don't think he really believes that.  Known him too long.  Probably just the stress of this whole damn primary season.

Actually, I don't either.  That's why I didn't react in anger.  There's been way too much of that going around lately.
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Re: Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
« Reply #243 on: April 22, 2016, 08:20:38 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on April 22, 2016, 08:17:28 pm
Actually, I don't either.  That's why I didn't react in anger.  There's been way too much of that going around lately.

Agreed.  :beer:
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Re: Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
« Reply #244 on: April 22, 2016, 08:38:04 pm »
Quote from: MACVSOG68 on April 22, 2016, 08:13:49 pm
As I'm sure you're aware, there are jurisdictions that now have no questions asked.  Just as with gay marriage, the courts will ultimately rule, and no doubt this one has a long way to go.  But part of the issue again is Trump, whose campaign against political correctness seems to have met limits.  Will he stand up for those who are being called bigots because they want some gender privacy, or because they don't want their 10 year old daughter to have to share the restroom with some 60 year old 250 pound male?  I can live with gay marriage as long as religious institutions aren't forced to participate.  They have their privacy; I have mine.

This issue is different.  The privacy that the left so emphatically demanded has now been turned on its head.  My granddaughter has no right to privacy or a feeling of security, and to demand that for her is tantamount to bigotry.  This is a big PC issue right out of the Donald's own campaign.  So where is he?

He is like most of us. We have personal beliefs and feelings. I don't hate gays, transgenders or transexuals. I just don't knowingly associate with them. I would withdraw my child from school if the school district decided my child's privacy and security wasn't important. I do hate child molesters and pedophiles. However, they generally aren't identified until after the assault on their victims. 
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Re: Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
« Reply #245 on: April 22, 2016, 08:43:44 pm »
Two things:
1)  I really am tired of the 'gottcha' questions; the candidates nightmare and the reporters delight.
2)  D. Trump should never answer hypothetical questions.
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Re: Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
« Reply #246 on: April 22, 2016, 08:44:27 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on April 22, 2016, 07:07:21 pm
SOCONS are a cancer on our Republic.   

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I knew it was bound to happen sooner or later but it still breaks my heart!   8888crybaby **nononono*
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Re: Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
« Reply #247 on: April 22, 2016, 08:45:43 pm »
Quote from: JMS on April 22, 2016, 08:43:44 pm
Two things:
1)  I really am tired of the 'gottcha' questions; the candidates nightmare and the reporters delight.
2)  D. Trump should never answer hypothetical questions.

Welcome, JMS. 

Don't we expect gotcha questions?  Isn't that part of the vetting? 

I think the problem is not so much the questions, it's the answers that DT has been giving. 
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Re: Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
« Reply #248 on: April 22, 2016, 08:54:51 pm »
Ann Coulter ‏@AnnCoulter  48m48 minutes ago

We wanted Trump to stress his presidential side, not become a division of Manafort & Black.
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Re: Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
« Reply #249 on: April 22, 2016, 08:56:23 pm »
This is the biggest thing Trump has going for him:  Resignation

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