Author Topic: Baseball 2016---Season On!  (Read 46624 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline EasyAce

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,393
  • Gender: Male
  • RIP Blue, 2012-2020---my big, gentle friend.
Baseball 2016---Season On!
« on: April 03, 2016, 02:45:52 pm »
Let it be recorded that 2016's first official RBI was hit by . . . a pitcher.
Francisco Liriano, Pirates. Bottom of the fourth, off Adam Wainwright,
who's only the Cardinals' best pitcher when he's healthy.

Season on!


"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

Fake news---news you don't like or don't want to hear.

Offline Free Vulcan

  • Technical
  • *****
  • Posts: 16,882
  • Gender: Male
  • Ah, the air is so much fresher here...
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2016, 03:01:20 pm »
Bring it on. Nothing better than being outside working on a fine spring day with the ball game on the radio.
The Republic is lost.

Offline Jazzhead

  • Blue lives matter
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,263
  • Gender: Male
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2016, 03:28:23 pm »
Spring is here!   My wife and I love to go to the Phils games, and we saw our first on Friday,  when they played an exhibition against the Orioles. 

The Phillies are supposed to stink this year (the hip yet polite word is "rebuidking"),  but they have so many kids this year that it's going to be phun watching the New Breed find its way.  At least so I tell myself; the bitter truth is the relief pitching is gonna be lousy.     

Look out folks, for at least  rising star -  Maikel Franco,  who I believe led all major leaguers in homers this spring (including a titanic shot on Friday night,  that blasted off so high and far I lost sight of it.    It clanked off the restaurant below the big scoreboard,  probably 450 feet from the plate.)

And maybe another - Odubel Herrera,  a charismatic cat and top-of-the-order catalyst with power potential,  who can track 'em down.   He'll play center even with Peter Bourjos on the team.

I'm also rooting for Cedric Hunter, a minor league lifer who until now never caught a break, and made the team as our right fielder.   He's got the prettiest swing on the team.    We've got another speedy outfielder in Tyler Goedell,  a Rule 5 pick like "Doobie"  who's going to stick and provide half of a platoon.

It happens every spring!   
« Last Edit: April 03, 2016, 03:36:43 pm by Jazzhead »
It's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide

Offline EasyAce

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,393
  • Gender: Male
  • RIP Blue, 2012-2020---my big, gentle friend.
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2016, 05:32:19 pm »
The Phillies are supposed to stink this year (the hip yet polite word is "rebuidking"),  but they have so many kids this year that it's going to be phun watching the New Breed find its way.  At least so I tell myself; the bitter truth is the relief pitching is gonna be lousy. 

The Phillies have quite a mess to clean up from the Amaro era, but it can be done. Don't even think about them contending this year,
but like you said, watch the kids. 

Look out folks, for at least  rising star -  Maikel Franco,  who I believe led all major leaguers in homers this spring (including a titanic shot on Friday night,  that blasted off so high and far I lost sight of it.    It clanked off the restaurant below the big scoreboard,  probably 450 feet from the plate.)

Franco was on a nice introductory roll last year (127 OPS+) before that wrist injury in August. Healthy, he should be big for them this year. Watch, too,
for the kid they got in the Ken Giles deal: Vince Velasquez. If he can keep the ball in the park at the Bank, Velasquez should give some hitters some
fits, he's a potential strikeout machine.

And maybe another - Odubel Herrera,  a charismatic cat and top-of-the-order catalyst with power potential,  who can track 'em down.   He'll play center even with Peter Bourjos on the team.

Don't be shocked if they move Herrera over one outfield position to keep him and Bourjos in the outfield, with Bourjos holding center field down,
while the Phillies wait for their real center fielder of the future---Nick Williams, whom they landed in the Cole Hamels deal last year.

The problem is that it's going to take another year and a half, probably, before the Phillies' yummy looking farm prospects look like they're
full-time major league ready. The rotation has a weak washed-up back end, and they're still going to have to deal this year with the last
days of Ryan Howard and Carlos Ruiz. (You kind of feel for Howard: he was never the same player after that ankle injury atop the big
contract extension. That's just plain lousy luck, but you wonder what Ruben Amaro wasn't thinking when he didn't think about moving
Howard and dining big on a lot of that extension while he still had value in terms of trade returns.)

I see 2016 as the season the Phillies get a good close look into their future and pick the pieces that make it happen. Unless the injury bug
hits or the best prospects prove to be journeymen, look for the Phillies to start looking like contenders again maybe after the 2017 All-Star
break.

I'm also rooting for Cedric Hunter, a minor
league lifer who until now never caught a break, and made the team as our right fielder.   He's got the prettiest swing on the team.

He'd be maybe the best feel-good story in the Show if he sticks and does well. What I see of his skill set shows me an early-in-the-order
hitter with a decent amount of pop and an ability to extort his way on base and continue the table setting. If there's nobody on ahead of
him he can take the extra base practically in his sleep. If there's a man ahead of him, he'd push that guy to take the extra base. I'm
genuinely surprised Hunter hasn't found a major league home yet. He may not be in the Phillies' long-term future plans, but if he gets
his shot and puts on a good show the first half of this season, he could be attractive to another club who turns up needing early-in-the-
order help and has a yummy prospect or two to offer up for him.


"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

Fake news---news you don't like or don't want to hear.

Offline mountaineer

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 62,463
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2016, 08:20:52 pm »
Good start for the Buccos. Only 99 more wins to go.
"The spirit of Kukluxism will not die out so long as the Democrat party exists to sympathize with that spirit."
-- Gerrit Smith

Offline mystery-ak

  • Owner
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 404,051
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2016, 08:23:21 pm »
For hubby...Go Cards

For son.....Go Cubs
Proud Supporter of Tunnel to Towers
Support the USO
Democrat Party...the Party of Infanticide

“Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.”
-Matthew 6:34

Offline Jazzhead

  • Blue lives matter
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,263
  • Gender: Male
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2016, 08:51:11 am »
Thanks for the response, EasyAce!   I'm optimistic going into 2016 -  not optimistic that they're going to contend, but confident the Phils will play hard and create the conditions for some stars to emerge.  Valasquez could be a number two starter if all goes well,  although I can't see him getting anywhere close to 200 innings this year.  If he's healthy and shows most of the promise that's been predicted for him,  I'll be pleased.   

A big factor this year will be Mackanin at the helm from the start.   I think he's the right fit for this group of players. 

Darin Ruf may be poised for a big year -  last year Mack let there be a true competition behind the plate, and Rupp got most of the work instead of the veteran Ruiz.  Hopefully,  if Ruf starts thumping 'em early,  he'll start against both righties and lefties notwithstanding Howard's contract.  Or maybe Ruf will get some time in left field;  with Bourjos in center he shouldn't be too bad.   
It's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide

Wingnut

  • Guest
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2016, 09:26:00 am »
Another year and another spring means for Cub fan's, hope springs eternal...again!

Offline DCPatriot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 47,457
  • Gender: Male
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2016, 04:39:34 pm »
Bryce Harper went yard in his first AB today.

That's FOUR Opening Day HRs  for the NATS' Right Fielder.

Score tied 1-1 vs Atlanta Braves end of 1 inning....as Freeman hits one out in CF.
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

Don't wait until your deathbed to tell people how you feel.  Tell them to f**k off now!   

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

Offline EasyAce

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,393
  • Gender: Male
  • RIP Blue, 2012-2020---my big, gentle friend.
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2016, 12:41:54 am »
Bryce Harper went yard in his first AB today.

That's FOUR Opening Day HRs  for the NATS' Right Fielder.

Score tied 1-1 vs Atlanta Braves end of 1 inning....as Freeman hits one out in CF.



Take that, Donaldus Minimus!!


"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

Fake news---news you don't like or don't want to hear.

Offline DCPatriot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 47,457
  • Gender: Male
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2016, 08:42:50 am »


Take that, Donaldus Minimus!!

Couldn't help yourself, huh?   In YOUR own thread about baseball?      :chairbang:
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

Don't wait until your deathbed to tell people how you feel.  Tell them to f**k off now!   

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

Wingnut

  • Guest
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2016, 08:55:04 am »
In other baseball news The Cubs won 9-0.  No bat flipping found at Wriggley.

Offline EasyAce

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,393
  • Gender: Male
  • RIP Blue, 2012-2020---my big, gentle friend.
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2016, 12:04:18 pm »
Couldn't help yourself, huh?   In YOUR own thread about baseball?      :chairbang:

Obviously baseball isn't the only thing that needs to be made fun again.


"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

Fake news---news you don't like or don't want to hear.

Offline EasyAce

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,393
  • Gender: Male
  • RIP Blue, 2012-2020---my big, gentle friend.
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2016, 06:29:10 pm »
Meanwhile, back in the jungle . . .

* Masahiro Tanaka fought Dallas Keuchel to a draw before the long ball and a nasty error did him and the Yankees in on their
   delayed Opening Day
.

* David Price struck out ten without much of a fastball, David Ortiz bopped his fifth career Opening Day bomb, and Hanley Ramirez
   almost won the game with his legs. 6-2 your final.

* At this writing Noah Syndergaard is taking it to the Royals. (9 punchouts in 6 innings.) Mets up 2-0 entering the top of the seventh
   thanks to new Met Neil Walker's two-run bomb in the fourth; Syndergaard squirmed out of trouble in the sixth with a big swishout
   on Kendrys Morales, on three swinging strikes and no balls (Royals with RISP on Syndergaard today: 0-for-7, six strikeouts, one walk) . . .
   meanwhile, Yoenis Cespedes popped out with the bases loaded to end the Met seventh . . .

* Hall of Famer Mike Piazza is miffed: his 9/11 jersey---as in, the one he wore when he hit the go-ahead two-run bomb in the first
   New York game back from the 9/11 atrocity---is going on the auction block. Hall of Famer Don Drysdale's eldest daughter is
   miffed at stepmother Anne Meyers Drysdale: the latter plans to auction all Drysdale's memorabilia. (Daughter only wants her
   father's 1962 Cy Young Award.)

* There went the Orioles' ban on players being pie-eyed in postgame interviews . . .

*


"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

Fake news---news you don't like or don't want to hear.

Offline DCPatriot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 47,457
  • Gender: Male
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2016, 06:37:21 pm »
Meanwhile, back in the jungle . . .



* David Price struck out ten without much of a fastball, David Ortiz bopped his fifth career Opening Day bomb, and Hanley Ramirez
   almost won the game with his legs. 6-2 your final.



To put some perspective into Bryce Harper's feat....he has FOUR opening day homers and he's only 23 years old.  Ortiz is 40.    :laugh:
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

Don't wait until your deathbed to tell people how you feel.  Tell them to f**k off now!   

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

Offline EasyAce

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,393
  • Gender: Male
  • RIP Blue, 2012-2020---my big, gentle friend.
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2016, 06:44:01 pm »
To put some perspective into Bryce Harper's feat....he has FOUR opening day homers and he's only 23 years old.  Ortiz is 40.    :laugh:

Would it shock you if Harper should finish his career with ten Opening Day bombs? I don't think I'd be surprised . . .

Meanwhile, Chase Utley---for whom a new rule on takeout slides seems to have been named---started his season with---wait
for it!---an illegal takeout slide . . .


"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

Fake news---news you don't like or don't want to hear.

Wingnut

  • Guest
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2016, 06:55:58 pm »
Later tonight the Cubbies are one at

9:05 pm on CSN+, FSW and on the radio at 670 AM.

Lineup:

Dexter Fowler CF
Jason Heyward RF
Kris Bryant 3B
Anthony Rizzo 1B
Ben Zobrist 2B
Jorge Soler DH
Addison Russell SS
Matt Szczur LF
David Ross C

Offline EasyAce

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,393
  • Gender: Male
  • RIP Blue, 2012-2020---my big, gentle friend.
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2016, 07:35:55 pm »
Out of Kansas City, 2-0 Mets your final---the Mets' bullpen spelled Noah Syndergaard
with three innings of hitless, runless relief.


"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

Fake news---news you don't like or don't want to hear.

Wingnut

  • Guest
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2016, 08:28:04 am »
Chicago Cubs are 2-0   
Apr 05, Final 6 - 1
Los Angeles Angels 0-2



Offline DCPatriot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 47,457
  • Gender: Male
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2016, 08:02:43 pm »
cough......knock wood.

My Orioles are the only undefeated team in the major leagues at 5-0.   

Davis, Schoop, Hardy and Machado....you'd be hard pressed to find a better infield in The Show.
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

Don't wait until your deathbed to tell people how you feel.  Tell them to f**k off now!   

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

Offline DCPatriot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 47,457
  • Gender: Male
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2016, 05:45:36 pm »
Lordy, Lordy, Miss Magavirin!!

O's Chris Davis hits 3 run bomb in top of the 9th off Craig Kimbrel to take a 9-6 lead....go 6-0...winning 9-7.    :beer:
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

Don't wait until your deathbed to tell people how you feel.  Tell them to f**k off now!   

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

Offline EasyAce

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,393
  • Gender: Male
  • RIP Blue, 2012-2020---my big, gentle friend.
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2016, 08:04:17 pm »
Lordy, Lordy, Miss Magavirin!!

O's Chris Davis hits 3 run bomb in top of the 9th off Craig Kimbrel to take a 9-6 lead....go 6-0...winning 9-7.    :beer:

*chuckling* One of the big surprises of the early season so far. What did get into those guys' feed bags, anyway?
They're playing like the '86 Mets right now.


"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

Fake news---news you don't like or don't want to hear.

Offline DCPatriot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 47,457
  • Gender: Male
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2016, 02:59:58 pm »


My grandson, Elias.  Age 14.   

Running in on line drives, sliding while making a basket catch and in one motion jump to his feet without breaking stride....at 14.
 
A senior holds down the CF position he's playing so he opted for JV, where he could get his reps.

Write it down.  He's got 'it'!

"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

Don't wait until your deathbed to tell people how you feel.  Tell them to f**k off now!   

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

Wingnut

  • Guest
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2016, 03:07:24 pm »
The Cubbies are 7-1 and on a 4 game streak.

Offline DCPatriot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 47,457
  • Gender: Male
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2016, 03:13:31 pm »
The Cubbies are 7-1 and on a 4 game streak.

Nats will be 7-1 about 8 PM tonight....sweeping the Atlanta Braves.

Rare 4 pm start today.
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

Don't wait until your deathbed to tell people how you feel.  Tell them to f**k off now!   

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

Wingnut

  • Guest
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2016, 03:17:44 pm »
Nats will be 7-1 about 8 PM tonight....sweeping the Atlanta Braves.

Rare 4 pm start today.

DC.  What became of the Senators?  I'm drawing a blank

Offline EasyAce

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,393
  • Gender: Male
  • RIP Blue, 2012-2020---my big, gentle friend.
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2016, 03:22:50 pm »
DC.  What became of the Senators?  I'm drawing a blank

The Second Senators (the originals became the Twins starting in 1961) moved to Arlington,
Texas after the 1971 season to become the Texas Rangers. Today's Nationals are the team
formerly known as the Montreal Expos; they moved to Washington in 2004.


"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

Fake news---news you don't like or don't want to hear.

Wingnut

  • Guest
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2016, 03:24:41 pm »
The Second Senators (the originals became the Twins starting in 1961) moved to Arlington,
Texas after the 1971 season to become the Texas Rangers. Today's Nationals are the team
formerly known as the Montreal Expos; they moved to Washington in 2004.

Thank you ace!  It's all coming back now! 

Offline EasyAce

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,393
  • Gender: Male
  • RIP Blue, 2012-2020---my big, gentle friend.
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2016, 08:46:59 pm »
Thank you ace!  It's all coming back now!

A little further moving history beyond the Dodgers and the Giants:

Baltimore Orioles---Born as the 19th century Milwaukee Brewers before becoming the St. Louis Browns.
New York Yankees---Born as the 19th century Baltimore Orioles; moved to New York to become the Highlanders
and, then, the Yankees.
Atlanta Braves---Born as the Boston Red Stockings before becoming the Beaneaters, Doves, and Rustlers,
before becoming the Braves; moved to Milwaukee for 1953; moved to Atlanta for 1966.
Oakland Athletics---Born as the Philadelphia Athletics; moved to Kansas City for 1954; moved to Oakland
for 1968.
Milwaukee Brewers---Born as the Seattle Pilots for 1969; moved to Milwaukee for 1970; named as the team
to have been named later and moved to the National League after the Houston Astros were moved to the
American League.


"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

Fake news---news you don't like or don't want to hear.

Wingnut

  • Guest
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2016, 09:00:17 pm »
A little further moving history beyond the Dodgers and the Giants:


Milwaukee Brewers---Born as the Seattle Pilots for 1969; moved to Milwaukee for 1970; named as the team
to have been named later and moved to the National League after the Houston Astros were moved to the
American League.

Ball Four!   Jim Bouton's team's

Offline DCPatriot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 47,457
  • Gender: Male
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2016, 09:10:59 pm »
Indeed, on Bryce Harper's 100th HR....a Grand Slam..the NATS sweep the Braves going to 7-1.
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

Don't wait until your deathbed to tell people how you feel.  Tell them to f**k off now!   

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

Offline DCPatriot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 47,457
  • Gender: Male
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2016, 09:11:56 pm »
DC.  What became of the Senators?  I'm drawing a blank

The Senators became the Montreal Expos.
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

Don't wait until your deathbed to tell people how you feel.  Tell them to f**k off now!   

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

Offline EasyAce

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,393
  • Gender: Male
  • RIP Blue, 2012-2020---my big, gentle friend.
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2016, 10:31:38 pm »
The Senators became the Montreal Expos.

In whose dreams? ;)



"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

Fake news---news you don't like or don't want to hear.

Offline DCPatriot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 47,457
  • Gender: Male
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2016, 10:41:23 pm »
In whose dreams? ;)

Didn't they go there...and end up returning?   I don't know, myself, then.
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

Don't wait until your deathbed to tell people how you feel.  Tell them to f**k off now!   

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

Offline EasyAce

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,393
  • Gender: Male
  • RIP Blue, 2012-2020---my big, gentle friend.
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2016, 11:23:49 pm »
Didn't they go there...and end up returning?   I don't know, myself, then.

No, they didn't. The Expos were created in the same 1968 expansion (for 1969) that created
the San Diego Padres, the Kansas City Royals, and the Seattle Pilots (who became the
Milwaukee Brewers starting in 1970).

The original Senators moved to Minneapolis for the 1961 season and became the Twins,
which sort of put a kink in the American League's expansion plan. The league planned
to expand to Minnesota (after the Giants---who'd had the territorial rights and
planned to move there originally, until they hitched their dinghy to Walter O'Malley's
ship and moved to San Francisco as the Dodgers moved to Los Angeles for 1958), but
when the Senators acquired the territorial rights and moved there, instead, the
league decided to put their second new expansion team in Washington---who became
the second Senators. (The other expansion AL team for 1961: the Los Angeles Angels.)

The second Senators moved to Texas and became the Rangers beginning in 1972.

Trivia: All four franchises in the first major league expansion were originally franchises
of a proposed third major league in the late 1950s, the Continental League. Originally
aimed at returning a second major league franchise to New York---after a huge uproar
over the politics that allowed the Dodgers and Giants to move west (short form: New
York planning and building fuehrer Robert Moses thwarted Dodger owner
Walter O'Malley's intent to build what would have been the world's first retractable-roof
ballpark when the Dodgers could no longer expand Ebbets Field or its parking)---the
league also challenged baseball's antitrust exemption to show it meant business.

Among the Continental League's prospective owners were one Joan Whitney Payson,
scion of the New York Herald Tribune ownership family and a die-hard baseball
fan. (Through her proxy M. Donald Grant, Payson was the only stockholder to vote
against the Giants' move to San Francisco.) The likely president of the league would
have been one-time Dodger president Branch Rickey, who spearheaded the Continental
effort along with a New York attorney named Bill Shea. The franchises included New York,
Houston, Los Angeles, Minneapolis, and Denver; I forget the three others.

Anyway, the major leagues decided to ward off the Continental League at the pass
and agreed to expand. The National League awarded franchises to New York (the Mets;
Mrs. Payson was awarded the franchise, in fact) and Houston; the American League,
to Minneapolis and Los Angeles, until the incumbent Senators made their move.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2016, 11:31:55 pm by EasyAce »


"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

Fake news---news you don't like or don't want to hear.

Offline Jazzhead

  • Blue lives matter
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,263
  • Gender: Male
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2016, 12:04:05 am »
I've long been impressed with the Marlins' two world championships so soon in the team's nascent history, each followed by a total teardown.   

The Phils are playing .500 ball right now,  and have three shutouts.   The cat we picked up in the Giles trade, Valasquez,  pitched a complete-game 16-strikeout shutout.   And seven scoreless in the start before that.   That's gotta make him NL pitcher of the week.   
It's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide

Offline EasyAce

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,393
  • Gender: Male
  • RIP Blue, 2012-2020---my big, gentle friend.
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2016, 12:23:28 am »
I've long been impressed with the Marlins' two world championships so soon in the team's nascent history, each followed by a total teardown.   

The Phils are playing .500 ball right now,  and have three shutouts.   The cat we picked up in the Giles trade, Valasquez,  pitched a complete-game 16-strikeout shutout.   And seven scoreless in the start before that.   That's gotta make him NL pitcher of the week.

That guy looks like he could be someone the Phillies can build around down the street if he keeps it up.
I like what I see of him so far.


"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

Fake news---news you don't like or don't want to hear.

Wingnut

  • Guest
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2016, 03:58:43 pm »
CHICAGO -- The Chicago Cubs are off to a mind-numbing start. The 2016 team is destroying opponents to the tune of a plus-43 run differential. That's the third-best mark -- and only one run off the best -- through nine games in the modern era. Let's take a look inside some of the numbers:

The Cubs are 8-1, tying the franchise record for the best start through nine games, last accomplished in 1969.


1969.  The season that shall not ever be mentioned again...ever!

Offline EasyAce

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,393
  • Gender: Male
  • RIP Blue, 2012-2020---my big, gentle friend.
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2016, 05:23:52 pm »
1969.  The season that shall not ever be mentioned again...ever!

Now, now, just because Durocher screwed the pooch . . .


"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

Fake news---news you don't like or don't want to hear.

Wingnut

  • Guest
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2016, 10:37:54 am »
There is a lot to like in this years team.  Here is one:


[attachment deleted by admin]
« Last Edit: April 23, 2016, 10:39:34 am by Wingnut »

Offline DCPatriot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 47,457
  • Gender: Male
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2016, 04:40:39 pm »
Meanwhile.....The NATS' Tanner Roark struck out 10 in 4 inning.....threw 121 pitches thru seven innings and had 15 strikeouts.

Relievers contributed for a new NATIONALS' record for K's in 9 innings with 18!  NATS go to 13-4 winning 2-0 over the TWINS.
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

Don't wait until your deathbed to tell people how you feel.  Tell them to f**k off now!   

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

Wingnut

  • Guest
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #41 on: April 23, 2016, 04:53:40 pm »
Now, now, just because Durocher screwed the pooch . . .
I didn't know the extent of his disfunction till I read your Milt Pappas piece.  Man .... what a piece of work.

Offline EasyAce

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,393
  • Gender: Male
  • RIP Blue, 2012-2020---my big, gentle friend.
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #42 on: April 23, 2016, 07:23:52 pm »
I didn't know the extent of his disfunction till I read your Milt Pappas piece.  Man .... what a piece of work.

I was first made aware of Durocher's dysfunction when I read the Life article by William Barry
Furlong, "How Durocher Blew the Pennant," when it was collected in Jim Bouton's splendid (and
probably forgotten) anthology of writings on baseball managers, "I Managed Good But Boy, Did
They Play Bad."
Then, in 2000, came David Claerbaut's Durocher's Cubs: The Best Team
that Didn't Win
. Strictly in baseball terms, Leo Durocher's Cubs had a number of flaws that
were never addressed seriously so long as he managed the team:

* Durocher's old school bit him in the ass when he refused to seek any leadoff hitter superior
to Don Kessinger---merely because Kessinger was a middle infielder (and a terrific one defensively)
and, well, that's where the middle infielders always hit, Durocher himself having been one
in his playing days. (Could you imagine a team now putting a lifetime .314 on-base percentage
in the leadoff hole? Bud Harrelson's on-base percentage wasn't much better than Kessinger, but
the 1969 Mets's manager Gil Hodges wasn't fool enough to bat him early in the order all that
often, either.) Glenn Beckert, the second baseman who usually batted behind Kessinger, wasn't
all that much better. (His 1971 season---in which he hit a whopping [for him] .342 with a .367
OBP---was a fluke season.) And neither Kessinger nor Beckert was any real use on the
bases---they were no threat to steal and would have broken arrest records if they did it too
often. (Both men had sub-.500 stolen base percentages.) Durocher's failure to see what
they were, rather than what he thought they were supposed to have been, cost the Cubs
quite a pile. (The Yankees of the late 1960s to middle 1960s might have had a similar quandary
with Bobby Richardson except for two things: Richardson was an even more impossible
strikeout, and he was a flat-out contact hitter who made enough contact to survive, even if
his lifetime OBP isn't much different than the two subsequent Cubs.)

* Durocher overworked his starting rotation as long as he could get away with it and they
had blood counts and breath in their bodies. With veterans like Ferguson Jenkins it was one
thing; with a guy like Bill Hands---who was close to Jenkins's age but got thrown into a fire
under Durocher's hand after he came over from the Giants (in the same trade that made a
Cub out of catcher Randy Hundley) it was something else entirely. Hands pitched through
back trouble often enough, even in his big years with the Cubs; which leads to Durocher's
next flaw:

* He treated injuries like affronts to himself and the team. As happened often with Gene
Mauch's Phillies after the infamous 1964 collapse, Cub players under Durocher often
feared speaking up when they were injured to avoid one of Durocher's tongue-lashing
accusations of "quitter!" if and when they did. It's impossible now to count how many
Cubs were playing foolishly through pain.

* Durocher almost never gave his regulars adequate in-season rest. What a surprise that
most of them were burned out when the stretch drive turned critical mass come Septem-
ber 1969.

* Durocher rarely sought and was never offered much in the way of bullpen depth. He
might have kept his starters from exhausting themselves by stretch time if he had. He
had one very hot hand come his way early in 1968---Phil [The Vulture] Regan. Naturally,
Durocher rode Regan hard and put him to bed wet. (Literally, in a sense: the Vulture was
notorious for throwing a spitter nobody could detect.) Until the umpires finally got wise
to Regan's, shall we say, Staten Island sinker (after several years beginning with his
career year 1966, with the Dodgers, someone finally noticed Regan's secret: He tended
to sweat heavily enough, even on his arms, and he'd let the sweat roll down his arm
to let him load one up), Regan was probably in danger of washing himself up completely
otherwise. Regan went 10-5 for the Cubs with 25 saves in 1968 and 12-6 with 17 saves
in 1969, at a time when a closer's average assignment could go as many as four
innings. Sure enough, Regan began to wither in 1970; two seasons later, he was
finished, after landing with the White Sox. And neither Durocher nor the front office
made as much effort as they might have to develop or acquire worthy bullpen reinforcements,
especially knowing Regan was 31 when they acquired him.

(Irony: Regan might eventually have been bagged for the wet one, but earlier in his career
he had an amusing run-in with umpire Chris Pelekoudas: Pelekoudas called fourteen illegal
pitches on the Vulture for no good reason other than their movement---and Regan protested
to then-National League president Warren Giles. The balls from that game were examined
and nothing untoward was found on any of them. It only helped Regan's reputation as
a lancer in the end: always remember that if the hitter merely thinks you throw a
great spitter, you just shaved about 1.00+ off your ERA. And Regan ultimately did
learn his sweat ball . . .)

* Durocher habitually shifted some lineup positions without bothering to tell the players
in question until they saw the lineup cards. (Shades of Matt Williams, helping to dig his
own grave with the Washington Nationals last year.) He'd usually do this when players
hit slumps---never mind his blissful unawareness that his burning them out too soon
might have had something to do with those slumps. (Ron Santo was a notorious such
victim in 1970, and it turned Santo---who'd once been one of Durocher's staunchest
defenders---into another somewhat alienated player.)

* Durocher so despised unusual pitching or hitting styles that he dumped one of his
best relief pitchers, the submarine pitcher Ted Abernathy, in a trade with the Cardinals
for a reserve infielder. Abernathy had a successful 1970 in St. Louis and made the Cubs
look extremely foolish. Abernathy had proven his durability and losing him was a big
mistake with Phil Regan beginning to show the effect of his own overwork.

* Tank-like catcher Randy Hundley (it was he, not Johnny Bench, who was the first
major league catcher to catch one-handed, tucking his throwing hand behind his
back until the ball was in the mitt) was so hard-nosed a player that he
ended up with knee issues that wore him down before his time at a point where
the Cubs had nobody in the pipeline prepared to spell or succeed him.

Additional personality issues:

* He so alienated his younger players that Ken Holtzman, one of his better pitchers,
couldn't wait to get away from the Cubs; Burt Hooton, who looked so promising
in early 1972 when he threw a no-hitter at the Phillies, ended up with back issues
later in the season due to Durocher's peculiarities.

* Durocher seemed to go out of his way to alienate Ernie Banks himself---even if
Banks was aging, he'd earned certain respect---at a time when the only
consistent Cub five-tooler behind the aging Banks was fellow Hall of Famer
Billy Williams . . . and Williams just wasn't enough to carry a club.

* Acquiring a revolving door of patchwork or exhausted veterans and green kids
in foolish deals didn't do Durocher any favours. Of the few such veterans that
did prove useful Cubs, Joe Pepitone---the very haunted ex-Yankee---finally
couldn't take any more clashes with Durocher and walked out on the team
early in 1972, after he'd remade himself into a contact hitter who usually
picked up his base hits when they could move runners as well as score them.
(A wrist injury had sapped his once-formidable long-ball power.)

* Durocher had a habit of leaving the team unexpectedly and allowing wild
stories to be made up about it until he returned. It might have amused the
press but it couldn't have helped his standing in the clubhouse. (He did it
even during the heat of the 1969 pennant drive.)
« Last Edit: April 23, 2016, 07:26:09 pm by EasyAce »


"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

Fake news---news you don't like or don't want to hear.

Offline DCPatriot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 47,457
  • Gender: Male
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #43 on: April 24, 2016, 09:13:00 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7VNG-ihhPk

NATIONALS walk off on Chris Heisley's bomb in the 16th inning vs. TWINS>

"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

Don't wait until your deathbed to tell people how you feel.  Tell them to f**k off now!   

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

Offline DCPatriot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 47,457
  • Gender: Male
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #44 on: April 25, 2016, 10:50:52 pm »
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

Don't wait until your deathbed to tell people how you feel.  Tell them to f**k off now!   

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

Offline DCPatriot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 47,457
  • Gender: Male
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #45 on: April 27, 2016, 08:42:47 pm »
Citing 'gunfighter' mentality, Dusty Baker says most pitchers love challenging Bryce Harper
Eddie Matz






WASHINGTON -- By now, you’ve probably seen the clip of Bryce Harper standing on first base Tuesday night and going all Will Ferrell in "Wedding Crashers." Common logic says that Harper, ever the fun-damentalist that he is, was celebrating his fifth-inning RBI single. Then again, maybe he was just pumped that he got something to hit.

In his first plate appearance against the Philadelphia Phillies on Tuesday, Harper walked on five pitches. Technically, it wasn’t an intentional walk, but it sure didn’t look like starter Vince Velasquez wanted much to do with the Washington Nationals' superstar. In his second trip to the dish, Harper received an intentional walk -- the official kind. Later, in the seventh, Philly intentionally walked him again.

It marked the first time this season that Harper has tallied three walks in a game. Last year, he walked at least three times in a game on nine different occasions, which was eight more times than in his first three big-league seasons combined. On the year, he set a new franchise record with 124 free passes. Apparently, that’s the cost of doing business for Harper, who last year saw pitches in the strike zone just 41.1 percent of the time, second only to Cincinnati’s Jay Bruce. Not that Harper minds. Or admits that he minds.

“I have a really big faith in Zim and the guys behind me,” said Harper after the game. “I don’t mind getting on base. If that’s a walk or an intentional walk or a hit or whatever, I just want to get on base the best I can, the most I can for the guys behind me. Just take it one day at a time, go out there tomorrow and if he throws me a ball over the plate, I’ll try to hit [it].”

As it turned out, he didn’t have to wait until Wednesday. In the bottom of the ninth, with Washington trailing 4-3 and the tying run on base with two outs, the Phillies actually decided to pitch to Harper. Philly closer Jeanmar Gomez, who gave up a 10th-inning go-ahead homer to Harper last week, induced a groundout to end the game.

Gomez isn’t the only one manning up against the reigning MVP. So far this season, Harper’s been getting pitches in the strike zone 42.6 percent of the time. Although that’s still the 17th-lowest rate in baseball, you’d expect it to be even lower considering the gaudy numbers that Harper has been putting up.

On Wednesday afternoon, manager Dusty Baker said he’s not surprised that Harper still gets challenged in key situations like the one from Tuesday.

“A lot of the pitchers, they don't like running from you. These guys have never run from anybody from the time they were kids,” said the Nats skipper. “And they still like the challenge of facing the best. I saw that with Hank Aaron. They had him set up for an inside fastball and they just wanted to break his bat so they could go the phone and call their father and tell him that they broke Hank Aaron's bat.”

Then Baker went even deeper into the past for another parallel.

“You ever watch cowboy movies with Jesse James and all those dudes? You know how many young little dudes they killed that they didn't want to kill? I'm serious. It's the same. It hasn't changed. There's always a gunfighter that figures he can enhance his reputation by getting Bryce out or whoever the best is. So you can expect, there gonna be some young fools out there. This is what we’re lookin' for."

And when they find it, don’t be surprised if Harper goes all Will Ferrell again.

http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-nationals/post/_/id/1000/dusty-baker-cites-gunfighter-mentality-says-pitchers-wont-stop-challenging-bryce-harper

"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

Don't wait until your deathbed to tell people how you feel.  Tell them to f**k off now!   

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

Offline TomSea

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,489
  • Gender: Male
  • All deserve a trial if accused
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #46 on: April 28, 2016, 10:29:03 pm »
I looked at the power rankings of the MLB at CBS sports; some people like power rankings, others don't but all the big news outlets put them out.

Cubs are tops, Whitesox next, Royals, Senators.

If one doesn't follow baseball closely, it tells one a bit how things are going this season.

Offline DCPatriot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 47,457
  • Gender: Male
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #47 on: April 28, 2016, 10:37:31 pm »
I looked at the power rankings of the MLB at CBS sports; some people like power rankings, others don't but all the big news outlets put them out.

Cubs are tops, Whitesox next, Royals, Senators.

If one doesn't follow baseball closely, it tells one a bit how things are going this season.

The NATS were up there right behind the CUBS...but they just got swept by the Phillies.  AT FREAKING HOME!!

Here we go again!

Bryce Harper is looking for a penthouse in Manhatten.
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

Don't wait until your deathbed to tell people how you feel.  Tell them to f**k off now!   

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

Offline EasyAce

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,393
  • Gender: Male
  • RIP Blue, 2012-2020---my big, gentle friend.
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #48 on: April 29, 2016, 08:54:53 pm »
End of three Friday---my Mets 12, the Giants . . . zero

All in the third inning: RBI double, two-run single, RBI double, two-run double, RBI single,
RBI single, and Yoenis Cespedes crowning it with a grand salami.



"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

Fake news---news you don't like or don't want to hear.

Offline DCPatriot

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 47,457
  • Gender: Male
Re: Baseball 2016---Season On!
« Reply #49 on: May 02, 2016, 04:16:12 pm »



How lucky we are that we can drive 40 minutes North or South and see the  current TWO best major league ballplayers in the world?   
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

Don't wait until your deathbed to tell people how you feel.  Tell them to f**k off now!   

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald