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That is almost certainly the truth.
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That is almost certainly the truth.


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This is the absolute truth.

For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Ephesians 6:12
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

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“Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it ... The spirit of liberty is the spirit which is not too sure that it is right; the spirit of liberty is the spirit which seeks to understand the minds of other men and women; the spirit of liberty is the spirit which weighs their interests alongside its own without bias.”

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In the name of diversity liberals destroy diversity of thought,
in the name of tolerance they are intolerant, and in the name
of ending racism they impose race discrimination and fan the
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Re: Political Graphics II
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Don't let the door hit your bony old a$$ on the way out, Bernie.
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Which is why we technically have a constitutional republic with certain minimum rights guaranteed to the minority.
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« Reply #8327 on: 12:01 pm »
Wasn't sure if this should be posted in political graphics, or the official silliness thread:


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Which is why we technically have a constitutional republic with certain minimum rights guaranteed to the minority.
,,,with equal rights guaranteed to the minority.
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,,,with equal rights guaranteed to the minority.


Not necessarily; with certain minimum rights guaranteed to the minority.
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« Reply #8331 on: 01:39 pm »

Not necessarily; with certain minimum rights guaranteed to the minority.
Maybe I missed the point of the first ten amendments, but what rights don't apply to the minority?

I get that if you vote in the minority on an initiated measure, or in the House or Senate, you don't get your way (not Rights, but decisions), but the fundamental unalienable and Constitutionally protected Rights exist for all citizens, not just the majority.
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« Reply #8332 on: 01:46 pm »
Maybe I missed the point of the first ten amendments, but what rights don't apply to the minority?

I get that if you vote in the minority on an initiated measure, or in the House or Senate, you don't get your way (not Rights, but decisions), but the fundamental unalienable and Constitutionally protected Rights exist for all citizens, not just the majority.

You miss the point.  The Constitution provides that there are certain things the majority cannot do to the minority, no matter how large the majority, no matter how strongly felt its position is, and no matter how small the minority.  Those are the rights that the Bill of Rights guarantees.

However, it does not generally provide that just because the government grants a certain benefit to one group of people, it must ipso facto grant exactly the same benefit to everyone else.

Or, to put it in the converse, just because the government drafts young men into the army, doesn't mean that it must also draft young women.
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« Reply #8333 on: 01:48 pm »
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« Reply #8334 on: 03:08 pm »
You miss the point.  The Constitution provides that there are certain things the majority cannot do to the minority, no matter how large the majority, no matter how strongly felt its position is, and no matter how small the minority.  Those are the rights that the Bill of Rights guarantees.

However, it does not generally provide that just because the government grants a certain benefit to one group of people, it must ipso facto grant exactly the same benefit to everyone else.

Or, to put it in the converse, just because the government drafts young men into the army, doesn't mean that it must also draft young women.
Benefits do not equal Rights. I think that is the source of confusion. Government grants many benefits, most of which are not guaranteed (nor authorized) by the Constitution, but those benefits are not Rights.
Serving in the Military, conscripted or otherwise, is not a Right. You have to pass or meet certain criteria to be eligible, otherwise, you do not get in, and those criteria range from physical capabilities to modes of behaviour (in re use of controlled substances and an absence of felonious history).

That isn't on the same plane as the Right to worship the deity of your choosing (or none at all), nor the right to freely express your opinion, nor the right to peaceably assemble in protest or support, nor the right to speak of or publish your musings on any of that and more. just to wallow through the First Amendment. We do have theoretical limits, for obscenity (pretty loose nowadays), and no human sacrifice, but still the fundamentals are there for all.

 
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« Reply #8335 on: 03:22 pm »
Benefits do not equal Rights. I think that is the source of confusion. Government grants many benefits, most of which are not guaranteed (nor authorized) by the Constitution, but those benefits are not Rights.
Serving in the Military, conscripted or otherwise, is not a Right. You have to pass or meet certain criteria to be eligible, otherwise, you do not get in, and those criteria range from physical capabilities to modes of behaviour (in re use of controlled substances and an absence of felonious history).

That isn't on the same plane as the Right to worship the deity of your choosing (or none at all), nor the right to freely express your opinion, nor the right to peaceably assemble in protest or support, nor the right to speak of or publish your musings on any of that and more. just to wallow through the First Amendment. We do have theoretical limits, for obscenity (pretty loose nowadays), and no human sacrifice, but still the fundamentals are there for all.

 


Whatever.  You want to make a mountain out of a molehill; have fun, I have other things to do.  You are totally missing the point of the original comment; however.
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Interesting take on it:

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