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« Reply #300 on: April 22, 2016, 10:44:30 am »
Blues guitarist legend Lonnie Mack

http://blogs.post-gazette.com/arts-entertainment/pop-noise/46490-rip-blues-guitar-great-lonnie-mack

Blues guitar great Lonnie Mack, who visited Pittsburgh many times in his heyday, has died at age 74, according to Alligator Records.

The guitarist born near Cincinnati first hit the charts in 1963, influenced by T-Bone Walker and Merle Travis. He was noted as an influence on Eric Clapton and Jimmy Page, among others.


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« Reply #301 on: April 22, 2016, 02:16:57 pm »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3554087/Prince-dies-aged-57.html

Prince 'overdosed a week ago on Percocet taken for a chronic hip problem': Star suffered for years 'but refused to get an operation because of his Jehovah's Witness faith'

    Prince overdosed on the opiate Percocet six days before he died and had to be given a 'save shot' sources said
    Drug is a highly-addictive painkiller that contains acetaminophen and oxycodone and is used to treat acute pain
    Friends said he had long-term hip issues but was rumored to refuse surgery because he was a Jehovah's Witness
    Pop superstar's autopsy began today, although the results of the investigation could take weeks, officials said
    Prince's private plane made an emergency landing in Moline, Illinois, so he could be rushed to hospital last week
    The 57-year-old music icon was then seen on Wednesday at a Walgreens pharmacy looking 'frail and nervous' 
    He died aged 57 at his Paisley Park estate in Minnesota on Thursday after being found unresponsive in an elevator
    Legendary singer and songwriter sold more than 100million records in his sparkling 40-year music career
    Prince was known for his sexually charged lyrics and was romantically linked to a number of male and female stars
    See more of the latest news updates on Prince as he is found dead aged 57 at his Minnesota estate

By Ollie Gillman and Kelly Mclaughlin For Dailymail.com

Published: 10:12 EST, 22 April 2016 | Updated: 13:09 EST, 22 April 2016



Prince overdosed on Percocet he was taking for a chronic hip problem he had been suffering for years after refusing to have an operation because of his strict Jehovah's Witness faith, sources have claimed.

The pop superstar died yesterday aged 57 and is said to have overdosed on the highly addictive painkiller six days earlier, TMZ reported.

Prince had used a cane to help him walk for years after causing irreparable damage to his hips with his lively stage performances.

He had long needed a double hip replacement, but was rumored to have turned down surgery because it would require a blood transfusion - which conflicted with his religious beliefs.

The Purple Rain star took so many Percocet pills that he had to be given a 'save shot' after his private plane made an emergency landing so he could be rushed to hospital last Friday, sources close to the star claimed.

Meanwhile, a source told People that Prince had been battling an 'ongoing illness'.

'The people close to him were very concerned for his health and indicated he'd been undergoing treatments which made his immune system weak,' the source said.

Entertainment Tonight's Kevin Frazier told CBS that Prince did have surgery on his hips but was still struggling with pain, as well as having issues with his ankles.

'The hip and ankle issues were a problem for him for so long, and for a man who loved to move and dance so much, it really bothered him,' Frazier said.

News of the alleged overdose came as an autopsy into Prince's death opened, although its results could take weeks.

Last night pictures emerged of Prince walking out of a Walgreens pharmacy just 15 hours before he was pronounced dead. It is not known whether he was picking up Percocet or any other prescription.

Prince's private plane made an emergency landing in Moline, Illinois, on Friday after he performed in Atlanta so he could be rushed to hospital.

Though his representatives said he was battling the flu, multiple sources told TMZ that doctors gave him a 'save shot', which is usually given in dire circumstances to drug overdose victims.

The sources said doctors advised Prince to stay at the hospital for 24 hours, but when he wasn't given a private room, he and his representatives decided to leave. When he left the hospital, Prince 'was not doing well', the sources added.

He was released three hours later and made an appearance at a party in Minnesota the next day, telling fans to 'wait a few days before you waste any prayers'.

Prince was then found unresponsive in the elevator at his suburban Paisley Park estate in Minnesota at 9.43am EST on Thursday and was pronounced dead less than 30 minutes later.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3554087/Prince-dies-aged-57.html#ixzz46a3huWJu

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« Reply #302 on: April 22, 2016, 02:17:47 pm »
That's too bad. I understand that pain and you will do almost anything for it to stop.
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« Reply #303 on: April 22, 2016, 02:18:37 pm »
When in the world did he become a JW, because his career ..... yeesh

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« Reply #304 on: April 22, 2016, 02:28:11 pm »
When in the world did he become a JW, because his career ..... yeesh
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« Reply #306 on: April 22, 2016, 02:34:42 pm »
This actually does clarify some of the conflicting stories about the OD but also refusing medical treatment due to being JW. It wasn't an illict drug over dose, but prescription pain killers can be just as bad. He probably refused surgery due to getting a blood transfusion, something JWs oppose so he was managing a lot of pain.

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« Reply #307 on: April 22, 2016, 02:51:10 pm »
Dang was hoping the drugs wasn't true.


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« Reply #308 on: April 22, 2016, 03:00:50 pm »
This actually does clarify some of the conflicting stories about the OD but also refusing medical treatment due to being JW. It wasn't an illict drug over dose, but prescription pain killers can be just as bad. He probably refused surgery due to getting a blood transfusion, something JWs oppose so he was managing a lot of pain.

I'm sure that many habits he 'suffered' under, were verboten to Jehovah's Witnesses.

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« Reply #309 on: April 22, 2016, 03:09:43 pm »

Wait for the autopsy. If you have chronic pain it is NOT a moral failing, to consume prescription pain meds.

Rush Limbo did.

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« Reply #310 on: April 22, 2016, 03:26:33 pm »
Wait for the autopsy. If you have chronic pain it is NOT a moral failing, to consume prescription pain meds.

Rush Limbo did.
I know......just sad to see. He was young.


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« Reply #311 on: April 23, 2016, 03:01:11 pm »


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« Reply #312 on: April 23, 2016, 03:15:30 pm »
"While My Guitar Gently Weeps" Love this one.  2004 RnRHOF

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« Reply #313 on: April 23, 2016, 03:19:58 pm »
"While My Guitar Gently Weeps" Love this one.  2004 RnRHOF

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SFNW5F8K9Y&feature=youtu.be
Beautiful.  Watching him play a guitar was a thing of beauty.


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« Reply #314 on: April 23, 2016, 03:22:08 pm »
Beautiful.  Watching him play a guitar was a thing of beauty.

He rocked it on that one.  Loved the ending!   

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« Reply #315 on: April 23, 2016, 06:31:51 pm »
Beautiful.  Watching him play a guitar was a thing of beauty.
That was fantastic.
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« Reply #316 on: April 23, 2016, 06:39:09 pm »
That was fantastic.

Wasn't it.  I loved the devil may care attitude!

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The Death Of Prince And The Death of Jesus
Despite reveling in sexually explicit material, Prince also wrote more explicitly Christian lyrics than any mainstream musician of that era not named Bono.
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In 2004, I went to see Prince at Conseco Fieldhouse in Indianapolis during his “Musicology” tour. His set was somewhere around a 60/30/10 split of the hits, deep cuts, and material from his new album, featuring an early, riotous performance of “Let’s Go Crazy,” a haunting acoustic version of “Little Red Corvette” mid-show, and a soaring, 20-minute encore of “Purple Rain” featuring a guitar solo that tore the feels out of your heart with thick, screaming notes forged from electrified steel vibrations and pure catharsis, notes that made you wonder why, if sounds like this were possible, people wasted their time listening to anything else.

I’m nowhere near a concert junkie, but I’ve seen my fair share of high-profile artists on stage, many of whom are known for the quality of their live shows. If I were to rank the best live acts I’ve ever seen, there’s Prince in first place and there’s “it doesn’t matter because no one else is even close to Prince” in second.

If I remember correctly, I paid around 70 bucks for my ticket to that show, but if I’d paid over a thousand, and all Prince had performed was that encore of “Purple Rain,” I wouldn’t have felt an ounce of buyer’s remorse.
Falling in Love with Prince

Although I was always aware of Prince’s music growing up, I didn’t really become a fan until I bought an $8 copy of “Purple Rain” at a used CD store when I was in high school in the late ’90s. Growing up as the son of a conservative Lutheran pastor in a conservative Indiana town surrounded by relatively conservative Hoosier friends, I never found anyone who was terribly eager to devour both discs of “Sign O’ the Times” with me on a road trip or to accept my “try to hit all the high notes in ‘Kiss’ without developing vocal nodules” challenge. Likewise, years later, when I decided to become a conservative Lutheran pastor myself, I didn’t find many more Prince aficionados at the seminary or in my congregations.

This is, of course, something I understand. Prince’s penchant for pumping his music full of funk and jazz influences wasn’t terribly appealing to many red-state rockers who were raised on a diet of Mellencamp and didn’t know exactly what to do with a sequin-clad pretty boy who spent half his albums falsetto-wailing an octave and a third above middle C. For attentive, Christian parents like my mother, who mostly become aware of Prince during Tipper Gore’s PMRC hearings, it made sense they didn’t want to give a fair shake to Prince’s indisputably brilliant “The Beautiful Ones” when the indefensibly filthy “Darling Nikki” was lurking just two tracks away.

But, for whatever reason, I hurdled the roadblocks that prevented so many who shared my background from embracing him. If there’s anything I wish to impart to those who didn’t join me in the purple fan club, it’s this: Even if you can’t stand the genres Prince performed, and even if you were understandably put off by his outlandish and often times obscene persona, it is an indisputable truth that Prince’s level of talent was not of this world.

For whatever reason, when God knit Prince Rogers Nelson together in his mother’s womb, he saw fit to give Prince more musical talent than virtually every other human being on the planet, bestowing on him the third-largest vocal range in pop music history, the ability to play countless instruments fluently, and a deadly command of the hook. In fact, Prince was such a prolific songwriter that he had a literal vault filled with unreleased material. (Before any haters assume all of these tracks must have not been worth releasing, remember that Prince essentially threw away arguably his greatest song before Sinead O’Conner rescued it from the waste bin and gave us one of the best female vocals of the 1990s.)
Most artists would never have been able to upstage either James Brown or Michael Jackson at any point in their careers. Prince managed to best the both of them on the same night.

Likewise, most artists would never have been able to upstage either James Brown or Michael Jackson at any point in their careers. Prince managed to best the both of them on the same night. For anyone still unable to see past aforementioned sequins and soprano screaming, close your eyes and listen to Prince casually rip off one of the best guitar solos you’ll ever hear. Eric Clapton is widely considered to be among the greatest axmen ever, and his solo on the original recording of “While My Guitar Gently Weeps” is likewise considered one of his greatest feats, which means Prince’s solo at the 2004 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremony is the musical equivalent of Rocky Balboa winning the heavyweight title by ripping Apollo Creed’s arms off and punching him to death with his own fists.

However, Prince didn’t always use his God-given talent to the glory of the one who gave it, as his countless songs glorifying lust and promiscuity made abundantly clear. Throughout most of his career, Prince had a regular habit of taking the brilliance his creator gave him and pumping it into throwaway, pornographic songs that, for late-to-the-Prince-party Christian fans like me, was about as disappointing as if poetry lovers discovered that, in between scribing some of the greatest poems in American history, Robert Frost wrote a thousand dirty limericks for Hustler magazine.

Despite reveling in the sexually explicit material so common in pop and rock music from the late seventies through the nineties, Prince also wrote more explicitly Christian lyrics than any mainstream musician of that era not named Bono, composing numerous tracks that praised the God who made him and that confessed the atonement of Jesus Christ, even if they confessed it in ways that wouldn’t exactly have passed doctrinal review in most orthodox Christian churches.

Likewise, while many rock stars of his era were notorious for their illicit exploits with female fans, one old Prince urban legend says that he would occasionally gather groupies together, sit them down on the floor, and read the Bible to them until they got fed up and left. I don’t have any proof of this, but considering Prince’s lifelong habit of challenging people’s preconceived notions of him, it’s not hard to imagine him, with a smirk, reading through 1 Corinthians while a handful of scantily clad women stormed out of his dressing room, irritated that their plan to hook up with a rock star had ended with an unexpected encounter with Jesus.

For Christians who prayed God would let them stop loving the sins Prince would frequently celebrate in his music, it was often frustrating to see Prince thank God for inspiring him to write music that helped inspire the “parental advisory: explicit lyrics” sticker. But the diminutive genius from Minnesota always left us with enough hope that he’d one day put his lust behind him and quit diverting his God-given talent away from nobler subject matter.

Those hopes were realized in 2001 when Prince finally jettisoned the dirtier elements of his repertoire from live shows after becoming a Jehovah’s Witness, but for orthodox Christians, it was a rather pyrrhic victory. We were certainly glad to see Prince finally embracing Ephesians 5:3-5, but hated to see it happen at the cost of him rejecting everything the Bible taught about the Trinity, the nature of Christ, and the salvation that comes to us by grace alone.

The angels in heaven certainly rejoice when a sinner turns away from his lust because he believes that Christ has freed him from that transgression. The angels weep, however, when a sinner stops committing the same sin because he’s submitting again to the yoke of slavery, thinking that he needs to open heaven with his own works because he believes that the blood Christ shed at Calvary was insufficient to win his salvation.

Speaking of the crucifixion, I don’t know if Prince stopped performing it post-conversion, but the song from “Sign o’ the Times” that was most at odds with Prince’s newfound confession of faith wasn’t actually “If I Was Your Girlfriend” but the Good Friday-centered track “The Cross.” As you may have learned if you’ve ever talked with any Jehovah’s Witnesses who have knocked on your door, they are quite insistent that Jesus didn’t die on a cross, but on a “torture stake.” Likewise, Prince’s 1987 confession that eternal life comes through faith in Christ alone was certainly at odds with the Watchtower’s “Jesus started it, you finish it” doctrine of salvation.

But if Prince was considering his countless compositions in his final moments, that’s the song I hope was dearest to his heart. In his last days, I hope Prince retained his rejection of his indecent compositions but returned to the God he confessed in his less outwardly righteous days and trusted that that everything his Father required of him was credited to him through faith in the bleeding hands of Jesus.

As I mourn the death of one of the twentieth century’s greatest talents, I hope he remembered the love of the triune God proclaimed to him in the Scriptures—love manifested for all the sinners of this world, even those who wrote “Darling Nikki,” when the Father’s only begotten Son died for their sins and rose again for their justification. As Prince Rogers Nelson drew his final breath, I hope he took the advice he gave the world nearly 30 years ago when he contemplated the final breath of Jesus Christ and sang, “black day, stormy night / no love, no hope in sight / don’t cry, he is coming / don’t die without knowing the cross.”


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« Reply #318 on: April 23, 2016, 07:10:33 pm »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3555292/Prince-s-former-drug-dealer-reveals-extent-addiction.html

By Ryan Parry In Chanhassen, Minnesota and Emma Foster In Coachella Valley, California and Martin Gould In Chanhassen, Minnesota, For Dailymail.com
Published: 10:52 EST, 23 April 2016

EXCLUSIVE: Prince's former drug dealer tells how the legend spent $40,000 at a time on six-month supplies of Dilaudid pills and Fentanyl patches - highly addictive opioid pain killers - for 25 years



    Prince's former drug dealer, who asked to be named only as Doctor D, revealed the full extent of the late-star's secret drug addiction
    Doctor D revealed the singer would spend up to $40,000 a time on six-month supplies of Dilaudid pills and Fentanyl patches
    Prince regularly bought drugs from Doctor D between 1984 and 2008
    The dealer said the musician suffered crippling stage fright and could not get on stage and perform without the drugs
    Doctor D said: 'He was always a pill man - that's why nobody ever saw him do drugs. He never shot up, or snorted cocaine'
    Prince was found dead on Thursday at his home in Minnesota just days after sources claimed he overdosed on the opiate Percocet

Prince's former drug dealer has revealed the full extent of the late-star's secret drug addiction - telling how the superstar was hooked on powerful opiates for over 25 years.

Speaking exclusively to Daily Mail Online, the performer's long-time dealer - who asked to be named only as Doctor D - revealed the singer would spend up to $40,000 a time on six-month supplies of Dilaudid pills and Fentanyl patches - both highly addictive opioid pain killers.

Prince, who was found dead on Thursday at his home in Minneapolis, Minnesota, was secretly cremated in an intimate ceremony at a nondescript funeral home in Minneapolis shortly after an autopsy was completed on Friday, Radar reports.

Prince's sister Tyka Nelson and another family member reportedly spent a few minutes saying goodbye at the First Memorial Waterston Chapel before the musician was cremated.

His death came just days after sources claimed he overdosed on the opiate Percocet.

Doctor D said the musician, who he described as 'majorly addicted', regularly bought drugs from him between 1984 and 2008.

The dealer, often to the stars, said Prince suffered crippling stage fright and could not get on stage and perform without the drugs - but had a phobia of doctors so could not obtain a prescription legally.

Tragically, Doctor D suggests it could have been a physician that unknowingly contributed to Prince's death - by prescribing strong pain killers to the singer for his hip condition without knowing the extent of his secret opiate addiction.

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« Reply #319 on: April 23, 2016, 07:10:54 pm »
25 years worth of inspired dope music.

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By Ryan Parry In Chanhassen, Minnesota and Emma Foster In Coachella Valley, California and Martin Gould In Chanhassen, Minnesota, For Dailymail.com
Published: 10:52 EST, 23 April 2016

EXCLUSIVE: Prince's former drug dealer tells how the legend spent $40,000 at a time on six-month supplies of Dilaudid pills and Fentanyl patches - highly addictive opioid pain killers - for 25 years
Yeah, SURE he was his drug dealer. And I'm Roland the headless Thompson gunner.
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« Reply #321 on: April 23, 2016, 09:38:21 pm »
"While My Guitar Gently Weeps" Love this one.  2004 RnRHOF

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SFNW5F8K9Y&feature=youtu.be

Dude...he did everything short of lighting that guitar on fire. He grabbed the torch Jimi put down.
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« Reply #322 on: April 23, 2016, 09:43:57 pm »
Dude...he did everything short of lighting that guitar on fire. He grabbed the torch Jimi put down.

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I know.  It was epic!

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« Reply #323 on: April 24, 2016, 08:40:12 am »
Wouldn't a blood transfusion be highly unlikely during a hip replacement surgery? Perhaps it's just the possibility of one that makes the JWs nervous.  :shrug:
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« Reply #324 on: April 24, 2016, 09:43:18 pm »
Dang was hoping the drugs wasn't true.

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« Reply #325 on: April 24, 2016, 09:46:07 pm »
Singer Billy Paul dies at 81



A native of Philadelphia born as Paul Williams, Billy Paul was influenced by jazz in childhood and, through experiences with rock-and-roll singers of the late 1950s and early 1960s, crafted a soul sound that came to be associated with the Philly soul that became popular in the early 1970s. Paul's biggest hit was "Me and Mrs. Jones," a song about adultery that reached number one. However, his success as a mainstream artist was derailed when the record industry dumped a protest piece, "Am I Black Enough for You?" as the next single against Paul's better judgment. Despite the commercial setback, Paul continued to release a mix of sultry, sexually implicit soul music and socially conscious protest music through the 1970s; he continued to perform for several years after mostly ceasing recording new music. A 2001 lawsuit Paul levied against his former producers and record company proved to be a landmark in "Hollywood accounting," the misrepresentations that record companies make to stiff performers out of their contractual earnings.

Paul died April 24 of pancreatic cancer.

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Re: Billy Paul.  I remember discussing him in the Juke Box.
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« Reply #327 on: April 26, 2016, 07:39:26 am »
Look who's turning on Prince's legacy
Reaction erupts over stunning social views expressed in 2008 interview
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Prince, the rock icon whose sudden death at age 57 last week left the music industry reeling, followed his own drumbeat in his lyrics, music and lifestyle.

He also, apparently, took a narrow path in the entertainment industry on the issue of homosexuality.

Because while Bruce Springsteen and others have decided to deprive North Carolina fans of concerts because of the state’s law protecting women and girls from men in public restrooms, Prince insisted the Bible condemned homosexual behavior, and he concurred.

At Digital Music News, Paul Resnikoff concluded Prince “was a gay-bashing homophobe.”

“Prince was a fearless innovator, and known for challenging societal boundaries and gender definitions,” Resnikoff wrote. “But maybe he wasn’t so comfortable with his sexuality, after all.”

Look at the truth of the homosexual issue, in “Outlasting the Gay Revolution” or “A Queer Thing Happened to America: And What a Long, Strange Trip It’s Been,” both at the WND Superstore.

He cited a 2008 interview by Claire Hoffman in the New Yorker that reported Prince’s social views.

“When asked about his perspective on social issues – gay marriage, abortion – Prince tapped his Bible and said, ‘God came to earth and saw people sticking it wherever and doing it with whatever, and he just cleared it all out. He was, like, ‘Enough,'” the reporter quoted him saying.

The singer, producer, songwriter and showman was found dead at his Paisley Park estate in Chanhassen, Minnesota, last Thursday. TMZ reported the singer was treated for a drug overdose just six days before his death, according to multiple sources. The London Daily Mail said a former drug dealer claimed the superstar was on opiates for much of his last 25 years, spending some $40,000 at a time on six-month supplies of Dilaudid pills and Fentanyl patches.

The 2008 New Yorker story said Prince had “moved to L.A. so that he could understand the hearts and minds of the music moguls.”

“I wanted to be around people, connected to people, for work,” he was quoted saying. “You know, it’s all about religion. That’s what unites people here. They all have the same religion, so I wanted to sit down with them, to understand the way they see things, how they read Scripture.”

The interview noted his decision to become a Jehovah’s Witness.

“I don’t see it really as a conversion,” he said at the time. “More, you know, it’s a realization. It’s like Morpheus and Neo in ‘The Matrix.'”

Regarding politics, he said neither Republicans nor Democrats have it right.

Related column:

On the death of Prince by Greg Laurie

“So here’s how it is: You’ve got the Republicans, and basically they want to live according to this (pointing to Bible). But there’s the problem of interpretation, and you’ve got some churches, some people, basically doing things and saying it comes from here, but it doesn’t. And then on the opposite end of the spectrum you’ve got blue, you’ve got the Democrats, and they’re, like, ‘You can do whatever you want.’ Gay marriage, whatever. But neither of them is right.”

Digital Music noted Prince touched on morality in a 2013 track called “Da Bourgeoise.”

He wrote:

    Yesterday I saw you kickin’ it with another girl
    You was all wrapped up around her waist
    Last time I checked, you said you left the dirty world
    Well it appears that wasn’t the case.

Further in the song, Prince sings “a man’s only good for a rainy day” and maybe you’re “just another bearded lady at the cabaret.”

Buzzfeed reported Prince once wrote a song titled “Donald Trump (Black Version),” published on a 1990 album called “Pandemonium” by the R&B group The Time.

Prince Rogers Nelson

Earlier this month, Prince Rogers Nelson, known simply as Prince, said he wasn’t feeling well, according to the Atlanta Journal Constitution, and canceled at least one concert in the city.

Some days later, he took the stage in Atlanta to perform. After that concert, the singer’s plane made an emergency landing to take him to the hospital with what a representative said was the flu.

He was treated for three hours at the Moline, Illinois, area hospital and then released. Prince later told fans he felt fine, but one source said at the time of the hospital treatment the superstar was “not doing well,” the Daily Mail reported.

According to TMZ, though, “Multiple sources in Moline tell us, Prince was rushed to a hospital and doctors gave him a ‘save shot’ … typically administered to counteract the effects of an opiate.

“Our sources further say doctors advised Prince to stay in the hospital for 24 hours. His people demanded a private room, and when they were told that wasn’t possible … Prince and co. decided to bail. The singer was released 3 hours after arriving and flew home.”

On Thursday, a forensics team and medical examiner responded to his home, and members of the Carver County Sheriff’s Department confirmed there had been a death.

The Carver County Sheriff’s Office said Prince was found in an elevator at Paisley Park. They performed CPR but were unable to revive him. He was pronounced dead on the scene at 10:07 a.m. Central Time.

The musician, born in Minneapolis, published 39 studio albums. The 1984 “Purple Rain” was perhaps his best-known, spawning a movie of the same name. His net worth was reportedly over $300 million.

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« Reply #328 on: April 26, 2016, 04:59:36 pm »
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/04/26/princes-sister-says-singer-had-no-will-asks-to-be-appointed-estate-executor.html?intcmp=hpbt4

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Prince's sister says the superstar musician had no known will when he died, and filed paperwork Tuesday asking a Minneapolis court appoint a special administrator to oversee his estate.

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The amount of money Prince left behind is unclear. A fortune originally estimated in the hundreds of millions could be much, much less, and future earnings off the pop star's catalogue and brand could dwarf what he died with.

Prince owned a dozen properties in and around his famous Paisley Park complex in suburban Minneapolis: mostly rural pieces of land and some houses for family members. Public records show those properties were worth about $27 million in 2016.

Prince sold over 100 million albums on his lifetime, according to
Warner Music Group. And Pollstar, a concert industry magazine, said that in the years that his tours topped the charts — 10 years over four decades performing — the tours raked in $225 million in ticket sales. Prince's best-earning touring year, when he took in $87.4 million, was 2004, the year he was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and two  decades after the soundtrack to "Purple Rain" went multi-platinum.

But what remained in Prince's hands is, by any estimate, less than the sum of ticket and album sales. In every record deal, a cut goes to the label, background performers and music publishers, though Prince published and wrote his own songs. Concert ticket revenue is split among the venue, the promoter, staff and the cost of travelling around. And Prince was known to throw expensive parties. Court battles in recent years suggest money wasn't free flowing.

In April 2013, Prince lost a suit filed in New York State's Supreme Court brought by perfume maker Revelations Perfume and Cosmetics Inc. for failing to promote the "3121" perfume line. He was ordered to pay $4.4 million; he never did. Instead, plaintiff lawyers went searching for assets, found about $3 million in various Minnesota bank accounts, and used court orders to freeze them, according to Brian Slipakoff, a New York lawyer who represented the perfume maker. Prince settled for a lower amount shortly after.

His brother-in law said Prince was awake for 6 days then they found him dead in the elevator. No will either. He was cremated.


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« Reply #329 on: April 26, 2016, 05:17:38 pm »
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His brother-in law said Prince was awake for 6 days then they found him dead in the elevator. No will either. He was cremated.

What happens to the properties. You would think the family members living in a house would get the deed to the house etc, but how many of them could pay their own taxes. I wouldn't be to surprised if the whole extended family was dependent on him at some point.

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« Reply #330 on: April 26, 2016, 06:34:06 pm »
What happens to the properties. You would think the family members living in a house would get the deed to the house etc, but how many of them could pay their own taxes. I wouldn't be to surprised if the whole extended family was dependent on him at some point.
I heard on the radio yesterday that the property he died at will be turned into a Prince museum. Now that he is dead they are predicting he will sell more albums after he died than Micheal Jackson has, MJ has sold over a billion dollars worth. Don't know who will get that cash? I read that in that state if no will was left the next of kin gets everything. This is major cash....it may be in courts for a long time?


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« Reply #331 on: April 28, 2016, 01:10:41 pm »
He was a Jehovah's Witness.

But I heard one thing; that Prince had NOT SLEPT for 154 hours prior to his death, I mean, anyone who does that is heading to death, that's crazy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/04/26/prince-reportedly-didnt-sleep-for-6-days-before-his-death-could-that-have-been-fatal/

Now, the National Enquirer and it is up at Drudge is saying AIDS took a toll on him.

That latter, I don't know.

I'm sure the guy was very talented, flawed but not overly so.  A lot of people are very sad with his passing, so I fully respect that, he meant a lot to folks.

He sounds like he was an alright guy, maybe fell victim to his own demons as they say.

I just had to rant on this, I've followed it some.

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« Reply #332 on: April 28, 2016, 05:27:42 pm »
He was a Jehovah's Witness.

But I heard one thing; that Prince had NOT SLEPT for 154 hours prior to his death, I mean, anyone who does that is heading to death, that's crazy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/04/26/prince-reportedly-didnt-sleep-for-6-days-before-his-death-could-that-have-been-fatal/

Now, the National Enquirer and it is up at Drudge is saying AIDS took a toll on him.

That latter, I don't know.

I'm sure the guy was very talented, flawed but not overly so.  A lot of people are very sad with his passing, so I fully respect that, he meant a lot to folks.

He sounds like he was an alright guy, maybe fell victim to his own demons as they say.

I just had to rant on this, I've followed it some.

My daughter lives in Minneapolis, and she's talked with us about how deeply loved he was there.

All kinds of buildings and the 35W bridge were lit in purple after he died.  She said her neighbor was in mourning.

He really was respected for his talent.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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« Reply #333 on: April 28, 2016, 05:49:08 pm »
My daughter lives in Minneapolis, and she's talked with us about how deeply loved he was there.

All kinds of buildings and the 35W bridge were lit in purple after he died.  She said her neighbor was in mourning.

He really was respected for his talent.
He was a very good person. He helped out many with careers and when some had difficult times financially.


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« Reply #334 on: April 28, 2016, 09:32:06 pm »
Philip Kives dies at 87

If you've ever seen an infomercial on TV—especially the kind selling compilation albums, where you hear short snippets of the songs on the album—you have witnessed the work of Canadian marketing guru Philip Kives, the inventor of the mass-marketed compilation album. Kives's company, K-tel, marketed a number of products (among them the Veg-O-Matic invented by Sam Popeil) but became famous for its extensive compilation albums, which often crammed as many as 20 popular hit singles onto a single album. His commercials, and their trademark style, were so ingrained into North American culture that they were regularly lampooned on the Canadian TV series SCTV.

K-tel's fortunes declined in the mid-1980s as U.S. regulations allowed for a flood of competitors and the company attempted to diversify into some bad assets (real estate and fossil fuels, both of which hit a nadir at the time); the company remains in operation, focusing mainly on its back-catalog of recordings, compiled from all the tapes they bought from the record companies for the original compilations.

Kives was 87. No cause of death was given.

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« Reply #335 on: April 28, 2016, 10:02:48 pm »
Philip Kives dies at 87

If you've ever seen an infomercial on TV—especially the kind selling compilation albums, where you hear short snippets of the songs on the album—you have witnessed the work of Canadian marketing guru Philip Kives, the inventor of the mass-marketed compilation album. Kives's company, K-tel, marketed a number of products (among them the Veg-O-Matic invented by Sam Popeil) but became famous for its extensive compilation albums, which often crammed as many as 20 popular hit singles onto a single album. His commercials, and their trademark style, were so ingrained into North American culture that they were regularly lampooned on the Canadian TV series SCTV.

K-tel's fortunes declined in the mid-1980s as U.S. regulations allowed for a flood of competitors and the company attempted to diversify into some bad assets (real estate and fossil fuels, both of which hit a nadir at the time); the company remains in operation, focusing mainly on its back-catalog of recordings, compiled from all the tapes they bought from the record companies for the original compilations.

Kives was 87. No cause of death was given.

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« Reply #336 on: May 04, 2016, 03:58:39 pm »
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According to the Minnesota Star Tribune, Dr Kornfeld runs the Recovery Without Walls facility in Mill Valley California.

Dr Kornfeld's lawyer William Mauzy said the clinician's son Andrew traveled to the star's compound in Paisley Park, Chanhassen in Minnesota on April 21 to greet the star.

According to Mauzy, who is based in Minneapolis, Andrew Kornfeld flew to see the star. 'The plan was to quickly evaluate his health and devise a treatment plan. The doctor was planning on a lifesaving mission.'

However, after arriving on Thursday morning after taking a red-eye flight from California, Dr Kornfeld found the star collapsed in a lift in compound.

It is believed the star may have overdosed on painkillers just hours before medical help arrived.

Andrew Kornfeld found Prince's body in the lift when he was searching for the singer along with two of his staff.


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« Reply #337 on: May 04, 2016, 04:02:44 pm »
Just another celeb junkie...
aka "nasty degenerate SOB," "worst of the worst at Free Republic," "Garbage Troll," "Neocon Warmonger," "Filthy Piece of Trash," "damn $#%$#@!," "Silly f'er," "POS," "war pig," "neocon scumbag," "insignificant little ankle nipper," "@ss-clown," "neocuck," "termite," "Uniparty Deep stater," "Never Trump sack of dog feces," "avid Bidenista," "filthy Ukrainian," "war whore," "fricking chump," "psychopathic POS," "depraved SOB," "Never Trump Moron," "Lazarus," and "sock puppet."

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Just another celeb junkie...
Many people are given legitimate prescriptions, for pain meds. Powerful opioids, highly addictive.

The part of medicine which is efficient, is handing the meds out.

The part of medicine which is deficient, is getting folks off the meds.

His is an unfortunate mistake. I do not blame him. He had initiated his recovery.

One of the great hidden problems in America, is the situation with  elderly addicted to pain meds.   
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One of the great hidden problems in America, is the situation with  elderly addicted to pain meds.

So you are saying that The Artist Formerly Known as Alive was elderly at 57?

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Prince was famous worldwide for his music and extravagant outfits, but he was also a secret philanthropist in war-torn Afghanistan, quietly donating thousands to Scout masters caring for young orphans, a charity told AFP Thursday.

The pop icon, who died suddenly last month at the age of 57, gave tens of thousands of dollars to Physiotherapy and Rehabilitative Support for Afghanistan (PARSA), an NGO supporting vulnerable women and children, according to its executive director.

His donations, facilitated by Seattle philanthropist Betty Tisdale, have funded training for 100 Scout masters now caring for some 2,000 children including orphans, the charity's Marnie Gustavson said.

The musician's secret interest in Afghanistan began after a visit to the country by Tisdale in 2010, Gustavson said.

Then 87, Tisdale, who died last year, was well known for her work with orphans in Vietnam, arranging for 200 to be airlifted out of the country after the fall of Saigon during the Vietnam War in 1975.

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« Reply #341 on: May 09, 2016, 03:34:34 pm »
Famed voice-over icon Peter Thomas dies at 91 (narrator of Forensic Files)

Peter Thomas, who died April 30 at the age of 91, was a narrator with a great distinctive voice.

He was known as the narrator of Forensic Files AKA Mystery Detectives. He also did many commercials, documentaries, and other voice-over work.

A World War II veteran himself, he was also known for his love of veterans.

RIP, Mr. Thomas

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« Reply #342 on: May 09, 2016, 04:51:28 pm »
Character actor William Schallert dies at 93



Never particularly famous nor picky about the roles he would take on, Schallert had an extensive body of work in film and television as a supporting and bit player, a career that stretched from 1946 until his retirement in 2014. He had, literally, hundreds of films and television series to his credit. The only significant starring role he had was on The Patty Duke Show (whose titular star died earlier this year), as the lead characters' father. As a union boss, he was more influential; as head of the Screen Actors Guild, Schallert oversaw a strike to draw royalties from home video sales, the resolution of which (one that angered the rank and file) led to his ouster after one term.

Schallert experienced peripheral neuropathy in his later years; no precise cause of death was stated.

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« Reply #343 on: May 13, 2016, 07:50:47 am »
Susannah Mushatt Jones, world's oldest living person and last living American to have been alive in the 19th century, dies at 116

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Mushatt was born July 6, 1899 in Huntsville, Alabama. Her family worked as sharecroppers and, before slavery was abolished, as slaves on the same plot of land. Determined to break out of that life, but unable to afford attending college, she moved to Brooklyn and worked as a cook and housekeeper. She bore no children of her own, and no mention in the obituaries I have seen have made note of who Mr. Jones, her presumptive husband, was.

She did not give a secret to her longevity, although she noted she was a believer in God, did not smoke or drink, and ate a diet rich in meats and vegetables. Her grandmother also was believed to live to 117, and so extreme longevity ran in the family.

Jones had fallen ill ten days prior and died in her sleep. At the time, she had been living in public housing since the 1980s.
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After she moved to New York, Jones worked with a group of her fellow high school graduates to start a scholarship fund for young African-American women to go to college. She also was active in her public housing building's tenant patrol until she was 106.  ...
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Singer Julius La Rosa, fired on Godfrey show, dies at 86

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Singer Julius La Rosa, fired on Godfrey show, dies at 86

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Julius La Rosa's firing was just the beginning of the ruination of Arthur Godrey's image and reputation, and Godfrey had
nobody to blame but himself.

What led up to the La Rosa firing: Godfrey might have had a public image as America's folksy and slightly dippy uncle,
but behind the scenes he was a tyrant who treated his cast like infants. Not long before the La Rosa incident, Godfrey
ordered the entire company to ballet lessons; La Rosa wasn't the only member of the company to balk. Numerous
histories of network radio and early television also record Godfrey fuming over the fact that La Rosa often got more
fan mail than he did. "Young and good looking," John Dunning would write in On the Air: The Encyclopedia of Old-
Time Radio
, "La Rosa seemed poised on the brink of a major career, and there were no stars on Arthur Godfrey's
shows."

19 October 1953: La Rosa sings "I'll Take Manhattan" at Godfrey's request for his big closing spot. As La Rosa finishes,
Godfrey purrs, "Thanks ever so much, Julie. That was Julie's swan song with us. He goes out on his own now, as his
own star, soon to be seen in his own programs, and I know you wish him Godspeed the same as I do." As eventual
CBS historian Robert Metz would record it, in CBS: Reflections in a Bloodshot Eye, "Julie was still just a kid. He
didn't know that a swan song was the legendary last utterance of a dying swan. Somebody had to tell him he'd just
been canned---on the air."

It didn't stop there. The moment the show was off the air, Godfrey executed his musical director Archie Bleyer. Bleyer's
crime: He'd formed Cadence Records with La Rosa, and the label's recent offerings included one by Don McNeil, the
longtime host of radio's nationally-syndicated The Breakfast Club, a rival to Godfrey's morning program. The next
morning, the firings of La Rosa and Bleyer were national headlines. Godfrey in his damn fool hubris counterattacked---
his accusations included claiming La Rosa had lost his humility, something anyone who knew La Rosa well would call
bull, especially considering La Rosa's politeness in refusing to criticise Godfrey publicly while thanking him for giving
him his big break---and only looked like an idiot for doing so. (He looked like an even bigger idiot when singer Ruth
Wallis, whose stock in trade was raunchy double-entendre novelty records, recorded "Dear Mr. Godfrey," a satire
on the La Rosa firing which took plenty of shots at Godfrey's "no humility" comment---and the record made the
national top 20.)

Then Godfrey took apart everything he'd built. He rejected Bill Lawrence's return to the show after his Army stint---
Godfrey claimed Lawrence's "bobby soxer fans" drove him nuts, but the real reason was Lawrence's romance with
fellow cast member Janette Davis: Godfrey objected to cast members dating or romancing each other. Which is
why many thought the real reason he dumped Archie Bleyer was because Bleyer was romancing Janet Ertel of the
Chordettes---who also recorded for Cadence, and who were also keys to the Godfrey show. (Bleyer and Ertel married
a year after the great Godfrey purges; the marriage lasted until her death in 1988, and Bleyer died a year later.) There
were rumours, too, that one of the reasons La Rosa got into Godfrey's crosshairs was his romance with Dorothy
McGuire of the singing McGuire Sisters, at a time when McGuire was separated from her husband and contemplating
divorce; Godfrey was said to have pressured McGuire to end the romance.

Godfrey also rid himself of the Mariners, the Hawaiian singer Haleloke, and producer Larry Puck---whose crime,
apparently, was dating yet another Godfrey company member, Marion Marlowe. His shows began folding one after
the other until he finally took himself off television in 1959 during his battle with lung cancer; after surgery to
remove the infected lung, Godfrey remained on radio until 1972, a shadow of what he'd once been.

La Rosa was only wounded temporarily from the Godfrey firing. Ed Sullivan snapped him up for a round of gigs
on his own Sunday night variety show. La Rosa would have the biggiest hit of his career, "Eh, Cumpari," after
he was dumped by Godfrey. The hit records might dry up in short order, but La Rosa had a couple of television
shows of his own later in the 1950s. In the 1960s, he made a second career as both a disc jockey (on New
York WNEW-AM, the city's longtime home of the Great American Songbook long before anyone called those
songs and that music that name) and a kind of saloon singer who graduated to touring high-end nightclubs.
He earned a lot of respect for that second career. He even landed a daytime Emmy nomination for a brief
role on the NBC soap Another World in the 1980s.

He did pretty good for the guy who's still remembered mostly for being fired on the air. It may have been
CBS president Frank Stanton, listening to Godfrey bitch about La Rosa's alleged lack of humility, who
suggested to the mercurial Godfrey, "You hired him on the air, why don't you fire him on the air," a suggestion
Stanton eventually admitted was a big mistake. (La Rosa's Navy buddies tipped Godfrey off to his talent,
and Godfrey put him on, saying after his spot, "When Julie comes back from the Navy he'll come see us"---
a bona fide job offer.)

To the day he died, Julius La Rosa credited Godfrey with his success---but invariably added, "He wasn't a
very nice man." There was even talk of Godfrey doing a reunion project with those he worked with
in the salad days---including La Rosa, who decided enough time was gone that it couldn't hurt. The project
was killed when Godfrey tried to pressure La Rosa into going public with "the real reason" he got canned on
the air: La Rosa supposedly asked out of his contract to go on his own. Knowing that to be a lie, La Rosa
quietly began to remind his old boss about the ballet lessons dispute---and Godfrey exploded. La Rosa
left post haste, and the reunion project died.


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« Reply #347 on: May 15, 2016, 04:06:02 pm »
By Yours Truly

Julius La Rosa, who died 12 May, just month after moving from New York's high-end bucolic village of Irvington to
Wisconsin, could have been very embittered over his on-the-air firing by radio and television legend Arthur Godfrey.
Instead, La Rosa took so high a road in the aftermath that it may have precipitated the end of Godfrey's folksy
image and, for all intent and purpose, Godfrey's own career.

La Rosa was a Navy boy whose buddies nudged his talent and name into Godfrey's orbit in the first place. Somehow,
they convinced Godfrey to give the kid a listen. It was enough to convince Godfrey to put La Rosa on the air for
a song. "When Julie comes back from the Navy," Godfrey told his listeners, "he'll come and see us."

It wasn't just a little show-biz shuck, it was a bona fide job offer. When the Brooklyn kid's Navy hitch ended in 1950,
Godfrey proved as good as his word. La Rosa became a feature on all Godfrey's shows, simulcast on radio and
television alike.

La Rosa was a good looking kid with a sincere innocence. He looked to all the world like the big break everybody
hopes to get and the kind of unspoiled soul everybody hopes gets it. That's because nobody yet knew the turmoil
that had begun underwriting the Godfrey shows, including Arthur Godfrey and His Friends, Arthur Godfrey's
Talent Scouts
, and Arthur Godfrey Time, the latter the radio program which had made Godfrey's name
in the first place after he'd broken out from a slot in Washington, D.C.

The turmoil's cause was Godfrey himself. The more popular he became on the air, the more of a tyrant he became
behind the scenes.

Godfrey began treating his cast and company, known colloquially as the Little Godfreys, like infants. None---not even
the hugely popular La Rosa---could grant interviews without his permission. Whenever Godfrey took up a passion,
the Little Godfreys were expected to join in no questions asked. And if any of them received even one fan letter more
than Godfrey during a given week, heaven help them.

That may have been the beginning of La Rosa's end, in fact. La Rosa actually had begun receiving more fan mail
than the boss. As John Dunning would put it in On the Air: The History of Old-Time Radio, "there were no
stars on Arthur Godfrey's show."

There was also the little matter of ballet lessons. Godfrey ordered them for his entire company. Including La Rosa.
Like many men of that generation, La Rosa didn't think highly of the idea. Unlike many men of that generation, La
Rosa worked for a boss to whom reason had become something close to a Communist plot. That boss felt likewise
about agents---if they happened to represent even one of his Little Godfreys for non-show bookings he already
didn't like them taking.

La Rosa himself hired an agent as his hitmaking career seemed to take hold. He'd later say he was young and full
of himself about hiring the agent. He'd only done what most music successes might have done. Unfortunately, La
Rosa was still mostly an unspoiled innocent. He could hardly have known what awaited him on 19 October 1953.

Those who were there said the rehearsals for the show were suffocating for their tension. Come air time, Godfrey
held La Rosa for the slot at the show's end which would be heard on radio alone. Earlier in the broadcast, Godfrey
made a show of needling La Rosa's growing popularity. Then, he asked La Rosa to sing "I'll Take Manhattan" for
his big finisher, and La Rosa obliged happily.

As La Rosa finished the song, Godfrey purred, "Thanks ever so much, Julie. That was Julie's swan song with us.
He goes out on his own now, as hisown star, soon to be seen in his own programs, and I know you wish him
Godspeed the same as I do."

"Julie was still just a kid," CBS historian Robert Metz would record in CBS: Reflections in a Bloodshot Eye.
"He didn't know that a swan song was the legendary last utterance of a dying swan. Somebody had to tell him
he'd just been canned---on the air."

La Rosa wasn't the only Little Godfrey to face the boss's guillotine, though the next execution didn't happen
in front of millions of listeners. The moment the show went off the radio air, Godfrey dumped his musical
director Archie Bleyer.

Bleyer had formed Cadence Records and La Rosa was one of his launch artists. The label's offerings also
featured one by Don McNeil, the longtime host of radio's nationally-syndicated morning show The Breakfast
Club
. McNeil's show had never quite landed ratings in Godfrey's stratosphere but you couldn't tell that
to Godfrey, who still considered him a rival. And, who was probably waiting for the perfect excuse to let
Bleyer go.

The morning after, the La Rosa and Bleyer firings made national headlines, though La Rosa's---being he was
the bigger or at least far more public fish---took big precedence. For the first time in his career, Godfrey
found himself under fire. And in his damn fool hubris he counterattacked. He accused La Rosa of lacking
humility, something anyone who knew La Rosa well would have called a crock.

It only made Godfrey resemble the village idiot. He looked like an even bigger idiot when La Rosa refused to
take any but the high road, crediting Godfrey with his success and thanking him publicly for his big break.
When Ed Sullivan responded by booking La Rosa to several gigs on his popular Sunday night variety show,
Godfrey blasted Sullivan as "a dope." When La Rosa admitted to one reporter that his firing "bewildered"
him, Godfrey sniped, "Somebody must have told him to say that. He wouldn't know the meaning of a word
that big."

Comedians began working "no humility" jokes into their acts. Bawdy singer Ruth Willis, whose stock in
trade was raunchy double-entendre novelties, cut "Dear Mr. Godfrey," which satirised l'affaire La Rosa
with brutal accuracy, and it shot into the top twenty. They'd been given even more ammunition by what
Godfrey did once he'd rid himself of La Rosa and Bleyer.

One after the other, Godfrey executed Little Godfreys like the King of Hearts bellowing "off with their heads!" He
refused to re-admit Bill Lawrence to the show after Lawrence's Army hitch ended; Godfrey claimed the singer's
"bobby soxer fans" drove him nuts, but the real reason may have been Lawrence's romance with fellow Little
Godfrey Janette Davis. He rid himself of the Mariners, the Hawaiian singer Haleloke, and producer Larry Puck---
whose crime, apparently, was dating yet another Little Godfrey, Marion Marlowe.

In fact, Godfrey was so against romances between his cast members that that may have been the real seeds
of both the La Rosa and Bleyer executions. When Dorothy McGuire of the singing McGuire Sisters separated
from her husband and contemplated divorce, she fell into a romance with La Rosa. Godfrey is said to have
pressured McGuire to end the romance by hammering at the patriotic theme: after she and her husband
separated, the man went into the military and Korean War service.

Bleyer, for his part, had fallen in love with Janet Ertel, one of the Chordettes, who recorded for Cadence
Records. Godfrey dumped the Chordettes not long after he sent Bleyer to the firing squad. The couple
married and stayed that way until Ertel's death in 1988. (La Rosa, for his part, finally married in 1956,
to Rosemary Meyer, a secretary for singer/television star Perry Como.)

All of the above destroyed Godfrey's formerly folksy image and helped take the magic out of his shows;
ridding himself of Bleyer proved as big a mistake as canning La Rosa, since nobody who succeeded
Bleyer seemed to grasp what made Godfrey tick on the air quite so acutely. One after another, the Godfrey
shows began folding, on radio and television alike, until Godfrey took himself off the air all around during
his 1959 battle with lung cancer. He returned to radio and stayed until 1972, reduced to an on-air
nostalgist.

After the Ed Sullivan gigs, La Rosa had a few more record hits and a couple of brief television shows of
his own. By the 1960s, he made a second career as a New York disc jockey (on WNEW-AM, the longtime
home of the Great American Songbook long before anyone called those songs and that music by that
name), occasional actor, and nightclub singer.

La Rosa never stopped crediting Godfrey for his success, even if he tired of being reminded of the on-air
firing. Finally, La Rosa would say, simply, "He wasn't a very nice man." It was the closest La Rosa would
ever come to denouncing the injustice. He never again achieved the kind of fame he tasted on the Godfrey
shows, but La Rosa earned something a lot more enduring to keep him working for most of the rest of his
life: respect.
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Re: Obituaries for 2016
« Reply #348 on: May 16, 2016, 04:09:12 pm »
It's been said that the 1956 movie The Great Man is loosely based on the career of Arthur Godfrey.
 
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Re: Obituaries for 2016
« Reply #349 on: May 16, 2016, 05:37:05 pm »
It's been said that the 1956 movie The Great Man is loosely based on the career of Arthur Godfrey.

It is---loosely. As the Wiki article noted, the key distinction is that the film's protagonist's failings are
almost entirely in private, while Godfrey's became only too public following the La Rosa and Bleyer
firings. Also, Godfrey wasn't known as any kind of serious drinker and it's tough to know what if any
kind of womaniser Godfrey might have been.

Godfrey actually came up the hard way. He left home at 14 because he thought it would ease his
family's burden (they were wiped out when the automobile destroyed the elder Godfrey's horse
businesses) and for a time was actually cared for by a prostitute who took pity on him, until he
enlisted in the Navy at 15 by lying about his age. When his first hitch ended, he returned home
to support his family when his father died. His radio life began when he went into a Coast Guard
program.

When he left the Coast Guard he became a radio announcer in Baltimore and then Washington,
surviving a near-fatal automobile accident in the interim. Godfrey caught his first major break when
Fred Allen hired him to be his announcer, when Allen featured in Texaco Star Theater on CBS.
That gig lasted only six weeks---Godfrey and Allen were oil and water, basically---but Godfrey
caught another break when, according to several CBS histories, he somehow persuaded President
Franklin Roosevelt (who was an avid listener to his Washington shows) to commission him to
fly for the Navy during World War II. (One such history has Roosevelt asking, "Can he walk?"---
Godfrey had been rejected over his old accident injuries---Godfrey had been en route a flying lesson
when the accident occurred. When the Navy aide said, "Well, yes, he can, Mr. President, but---,"
Roosevelt interjected, "Give it to him, then. I can't walk and I'm the Commander in Chief!")

Small wonder Godfrey---assigned by CBS to cover Roosevelt's funeral---almost went to pieces
on the air during the procession. (You can hear his voice waver as he described the procession and
intoned, "God bless him, Mr. Truman," referring to successor Harry Truman.) CBS was impressed
enough to give him Arthur Godfrey Time in the mornings on the national network, and his
career took off from there.

Nobody knows just when or why or how Godfrey became the complete opposite of his folksy
public image off the air. But one CBS history quoted him as having once warned his cast, "Remember
that many of you are here over the bodies I have personally slain. I've done it before and I can do it
again."

But among the better sides of him included his refusal to kowtow to southern CBS affiliates
and boot the singing Mariners---a group of Coast Guard veterans who sang barbershop style and
who were made up of two white and two black men.

Godfrey also turned an unlikely project into a best seller. He shared an agent with Edward R. Murrow.
(The agent, J.P. [Jap] Gude, had talked Murrow into narrating the project in the first place.)
When Murrow and Fred Friendly put together the spoken-word-with-radio-clips documentary albums
I Can Hear It Now, they approached Godfrey, because they planned to use the fabled clip of
Godfrey falling apart momentarily describing FDR's funeral procession. They feared Godfrey might
not approve.

So they played the portion with the Godfrey clip first. A Godfrey staffer came by to remind him of
a pressing appointment. Godfrey barked the staffer away, hollering he wanted to hear the entire
albums. Then, without being prodded to do so, Godfrey plugged the hell out of the project
incessantly on his radio and television programs, and I Can Hear It Now became the first
million selling documentary record albums.
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