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« Reply #950 on: December 27, 2016, 02:05:00 pm »
@Freya

As an EMT, I didn't think she would survive.  For one thing, she was on an extremely long flight and likely she didn't walk on the plane.  Sitting that long on a plane causes blood to collect in the legs/feet and can cause blood clots, especially if the heart is already compromised.  These clots can move to the heart and stop it.

For those of you who fly or have flown overseas to Europe in the past, you likely noted your feet had swelled by the time you touched down overseas or flying back from there.  Her flight was longer than flying from central US or the east coast to or back from Europe.  I don't recall the country she left but did note it was a longer flight to California than the east coast or central US.  Blood clots was my first thought when I heard her heart stopped.

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About three years ago I was diagnosed with a DVT (blood clot in the leg).  I had none of the risk factors, and they never found out what caused it---the closest they could come was a folic acid deficiency.  At the final visit when the doctor let me go, he said that if I take an overseas flight I'll have to treat myself with a blood thinner---injection into the stomach---before the flight, as a precaution.

It's extremely important to move around during a flight, and to stay well hydrated.

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Re: Obituaries for 2016
« Reply #951 on: December 27, 2016, 02:15:51 pm »
Carrie Fisher dies, age 60


Details on her thread here.

60 is WAY too young.......  **nononono*
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« Reply #952 on: December 27, 2016, 02:18:51 pm »
Character still matters.  It always matters.

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Re: Obituaries for 2016
« Reply #953 on: December 27, 2016, 02:28:15 pm »
Rats!  I was so hoping Miss Fisher would have made it.  Unfortunately, the odds were against her.  Survival rate for cardiac arrest is very low.

May she rest in peace.

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« Reply #954 on: December 27, 2016, 02:31:51 pm »
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About three years ago I was diagnosed with a DVT (blood clot in the leg).  I had none of the risk factors, and they never found out what caused it---the closest they could come was a folic acid deficiency.  At the final visit when the doctor let me go, he said that if I take an overseas flight I'll have to treat myself with a blood thinner---injection into the stomach---before the flight, as a precaution.  It's extremely important to move around during a flight, and to stay well hydrated.

I made many trips overseas and did get up and walk on the plane but every time my feet were swollen when I got off the plane.  By the next day the feet were okay.  At my advanced age now, I would not fly overseas.

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« Reply #955 on: December 27, 2016, 02:40:08 pm »
Rats!  I was so hoping Miss Fisher would have made it.  Unfortunately, the odds were against her.  Survival rate for cardiac arrest is very low.

May she rest in peace.

It took too long to get her resuscitated.  It was probably 20 minutes between the heart attack and she was in the hospital.  So sorry, Carrie...I know our politics didn't match up, but nobody deserves to die that young.
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Re: Obituaries for 2016
« Reply #956 on: December 27, 2016, 02:43:18 pm »
I made many trips overseas and did get up and walk on the plane but every time my feet were swollen when I got off the plane.  By the next day the feet were okay.  At my advanced age now, I would not fly overseas.

Same here.  Even on shorter domestic flights, I always take an aisle seat so I can get up and move around.  I'm going to Florida next month -- about a 2-1/2 hour flight.  I'll be up and moving at least twice. 

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« Reply #957 on: December 27, 2016, 02:53:48 pm »
It took too long to get her resuscitated.  It was probably 20 minutes between the heart attack and she was in the hospital.  So sorry, Carrie...I know our politics didn't match up, but nobody deserves to die that young.

I thought someone on the plane tried CPR.  You are correct that CPR has to start right away.  The longer the patient is unconscious, the less likely he or she will survive.  And the longer it takes to get the heart started, the more likely there will be organ damage from lack of oxygen, especially the brain.  With a damaged heart and the other organs dying from lack of oxygen, the prognosis is not good.  Many patients, even with prompt CPR, don't make it.

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« Reply #958 on: December 27, 2016, 02:55:05 pm »
There was an EMT on the flight. From what I read, it took 10 minutes to get her heart beating after he started rescue efforts.
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Re: Obituaries for 2016
« Reply #959 on: December 27, 2016, 02:58:20 pm »
Merging Carrie Fisher thread from Sports/Entertainment into the Obituaries thread.

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« Reply #960 on: December 27, 2016, 03:04:43 pm »
I thought someone on the plane tried CPR.  You are correct that CPR has to start right away.  The longer the patient is unconscious, the less likely he or she will survive.  And the longer it takes to get the heart started, the more likely there will be organ damage from lack of oxygen, especially the brain.  With a damaged heart and the other organs dying from lack of oxygen, the prognosis is not good.  Many patients, even with prompt CPR, don't make it.

The heart has to be beating, and I think that's what took too long.  It's very sad....  **nononono*
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« Reply #961 on: December 27, 2016, 03:08:13 pm »
There was an EMT on the flight. From what I read, it took 10 minutes to get her heart beating after he started rescue efforts.

In 10 minutes, her brain may have been severely damaged, as may have been other organs.  If revived in 20 minutes, a patient may survive,  but damage to the organs will start sooner and the damage could be serious and permanent. 

I don't know how long my heart stopped,  but I do have some residual effects.  My memory and concentration are shot and my sense of balance is off.  For many patients, the brain damage is severe -- persistent vegetative state.   If that was the alternative for Miss Fisher,, perhaps it's a blessing she did not survive.

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« Reply #962 on: December 27, 2016, 03:11:22 pm »
I made many trips overseas and did get up and walk on the plane but every time my feet were swollen when I got off the plane.  By the next day the feet were okay.  At my advanced age now, I would not fly overseas.

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That's wise, IMO.  According to what I've read, the average person's risk for a clot goes up three times when flying, and if there are other factors---genetic predisposition, obesity, sedentary lifestyle, oral contraceptives/hormone therapy, smoking---the risk increases many more times. 

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« Reply #963 on: December 27, 2016, 05:21:22 pm »
Richard Adams, author of 'Watership Down' dead at 96

Richard Fox who was "Dr Bombay" on 'Bewitched' apparently died on December 14

A guy who was on "Everybody hates Chris" just died

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Re: Obituaries for 2016
« Reply #964 on: December 27, 2016, 05:40:58 pm »
If it gives you any idea of what kind of year it's been, last year's obituary thread has less than 300 posts. We're over three times that this year.
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« Reply #965 on: December 27, 2016, 07:38:32 pm »
May it not be quite so long as last years!
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Re: Obituaries for 2016
« Reply #966 on: December 27, 2016, 07:57:48 pm »
Well, that didn't work out so well, did it? :-/

We gab a lot more about it now....
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« Reply #967 on: December 27, 2016, 09:19:03 pm »
Well, that didn't work out so well, did it? :-/

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« Reply #968 on: December 27, 2016, 10:14:45 pm »


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« Reply #969 on: December 27, 2016, 10:30:17 pm »
George S. Irving Dies: Tony-Winning Character Actor Was 94

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Re: Obituaries for 2016
« Reply #970 on: December 28, 2016, 05:04:58 pm »
Debbie Reynolds just suffered a medical emergency, which we're told is a possible stroke ... and EMTs just raced to the scene, TMZ has learned.

Debbie was at her son Todd Fisher's home in Beverly Hills and just after 1 PM someone from the house called 911.

More at the link: http://www.tmz.com/2016/12/28/debbie-reynolds-hospitalized-stroke/
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« Reply #971 on: December 28, 2016, 05:15:38 pm »
 **nononono*  Awful. 

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Re: Obituaries for 2016
« Reply #972 on: December 28, 2016, 05:21:44 pm »
Merging Carrie Fisher thread from Sports/Entertainment into the Obituaries thread.

No self respecting obit thread is complete w/o an obligatory "best" photo of the decedent......

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« Reply #973 on: December 28, 2016, 05:25:50 pm »
Debbie Reynolds just suffered a medical emergency, which we're told is a possible stroke ... and EMTs just raced to the scene, TMZ has learned.

Debbie was at her son Todd Fisher's home in Beverly Hills and just after 1 PM someone from the house called 911.

More at the link: http://www.tmz.com/2016/12/28/debbie-reynolds-hospitalized-stroke/

Not surprising after losing her  child
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« Reply #974 on: December 28, 2016, 05:43:23 pm »
Prayers up for Debbie. Loved her in Singing in the Rain and a movie she made with Tony Randall which I can't think of the name..

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Re: Obituaries for 2016
« Reply #975 on: December 28, 2016, 06:16:09 pm »
No self respecting obit thread is complete w/o an obligatory "best" photo of the decedent......

OOO  La La.....


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« Reply #976 on: December 28, 2016, 06:20:09 pm »
Forget Solo and the Wookie...

That's what the giant slug said, and look where it got him....
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« Reply #977 on: December 28, 2016, 06:26:36 pm »
That's what the giant slug said, and look where it got him....

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« Reply #978 on: December 28, 2016, 06:32:14 pm »
Slurm?

Strangled by her chains and thrown into the maw of a desert ant dragon.  There are better ways to go...
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« Reply #979 on: December 28, 2016, 06:39:14 pm »
Update from TMZ at 2:53 PM Pacific Time (5:53 PM Eastern): "We've learned Debbie's condition when she was taken to the hospital was listed as 'fair to serious.'"
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« Reply #980 on: December 28, 2016, 06:44:24 pm »

It is the Hollywood curse of 3. It almost never fails.


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« Reply #981 on: December 28, 2016, 06:45:55 pm »
Debbie Reynolds, Carrie Fisher's mother, has been rushed to the hospital with a possible stroke.  She was at her son's home planning the funeral.

This is just unreal...


http://www.king5.com/entertainment/report-debbie-reynolds-rushed-to-hospital/379879544

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« Reply #982 on: December 28, 2016, 07:53:50 pm »
Tmz story linked above has an update. Condition "Fair to Serious"

Sounds bad. Prayers up.
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« Reply #983 on: December 28, 2016, 07:57:50 pm »
Debbie Reynolds, Carrie Fisher's mother, has been rushed to the hospital with a possible stroke.  She was at her son's home planning the funeral.

This is just unreal...


http://www.king5.com/entertainment/report-debbie-reynolds-rushed-to-hospital/379879544

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« Reply #984 on: December 28, 2016, 08:24:20 pm »
Prayers for Debbie.

Losing a daughter is a horrible thing.  I'm sure that she's overwhelmed by grief.
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Re: Obituaries for 2016
« Reply #985 on: December 28, 2016, 08:36:49 pm »
Debbie Reynolds, Carrie Fisher's mother, has been rushed to the hospital with a possible stroke.  She was at her son's home planning the funeral.

This is just unreal...


http://www.king5.com/entertainment/report-debbie-reynolds-rushed-to-hospital/379879544

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« Reply #986 on: December 28, 2016, 08:49:54 pm »
Debbie Reynolds DEAD AT 84

Debbie Reynolds -- who rose to stardom in "Singin' in the Rain" and quickly became a staple among Hollywood royalty -- died Wednesday as a result of a stroke, TMZ has learned ... just one day after her daughter Carrie Fisher passed away ... this according to her son Todd.

Debbie was rushed to a hospital shortly after 1 PM when someone at the Beverly Hills home of her son, Todd, called 911 to report a possible stroke. We're told Debbie and Todd were making funeral plans for Carrie, who died Tuesday of cardiac arrest.

Debbie famously divorced Eddie Fisher in 1959 after his affair with Elizabeth Taylor. Debbie married 2 more times in 1960 and 1984.

She played iconic roles in "Tammy and the Bachelor" and "The Unsinkable Molly Brown" ... for which she earned an Oscar nomination.

Carrie's relationship with Debbie was the focus of Carrie's semi-autobiographical book, "Postcards from the Edge," which was later adapted for the big screen, starring Meryl Streep and Shirley MacLaine.

Debbie's survived by her son Todd, who tells us, "She's with Carrie."

She was 84.


http://www.tmz.com/2016/12/28/debbie-reynolds-dead/


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« Reply #989 on: December 28, 2016, 08:54:07 pm »
Debbie Reynolds has died.

http://variety.com/2016/film/news/debbie-reynolds-dead-dies-carrie-fisher-mother-1201949432/

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« Reply #990 on: December 28, 2016, 08:54:59 pm »
It sounds to me like she simply died of a broken heart, which happens often.

If one believes in an afterlife, at least they went together.

Drudge has a headline "She wanted to be with Carrie"
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« Reply #991 on: December 28, 2016, 08:55:51 pm »
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« Reply #992 on: December 28, 2016, 08:59:04 pm »
The stress, anxiety, and possibly guilt she put on her 84 year-old heart was too much.
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Re: Obituaries for 2016
« Reply #993 on: December 28, 2016, 09:00:23 pm »
I can't wait for this year to be over. between illnesses of family, friends, and all these deaths, enough is enough!
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Re: Obituaries for 2016
« Reply #994 on: December 28, 2016, 09:06:23 pm »
Praying Debbie's with her daughter and they are both resting in God's peace. 


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Re: Obituaries for 2016
« Reply #995 on: December 28, 2016, 09:07:49 pm »
So sad..
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Re: Obituaries for 2016
« Reply #997 on: December 28, 2016, 09:25:27 pm »
Damn.

I lost my grandmother and mother this year as well but at least it was several months apart.

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Re: Obituaries for 2016
« Reply #998 on: December 28, 2016, 11:37:18 pm »
It sounds to me like she simply died of a broken heart, which happens often.

If one believes in an afterlife, at least they went together.

I do, and they did....


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Re: Obituaries for 2016
« Reply #999 on: December 29, 2016, 12:56:12 am »
Praying Debbie's with her daughter and they are both resting in God's peace.
On this we agree! Prayers up!
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