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NBC Poll: Clinton Would Trounce Trump But Lose to Rubio, Carson
« on: December 14, 2015, 04:02:07 pm »
http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/nbc-poll-clinton-would-trounce-trump-lose-rubio-carson-n478676


NBC Poll: Clinton Would Trounce Trump But Lose to Rubio, Carson

by Carrie Dann

 Hillary Clinton would defeat Ted Cruz and trounce Donald Trump in a hypothetical head-to-head general election matchup, but she would lose to Marco Rubio or Ben Carson, a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds.

Clinton, who leads the Democratic primary field by nearly 20 points, would have a strong advantage over Trump with independent voters but would be bested by the three other Republicans with the important swing group.

The poll, conducted Dec. 6-9, shows Clinton getting the support of 56 percent of Democrats, compared to 37 percent who back Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont and 4 percent who back former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley.

 Against Trump, the Democratic front-runner would win 50 percent to 40 percent. Among independents, she would capture 43 percent of the vote, compared to 36 percent for Trump. Among Hispanics, Clinton would get 69 percent of the vote, compared to just 24 percent for Trump.

And against Cruz, who has surged in recent polls in the important early state of Iowa, Clinton would win with 48 percent to Cruz's 45 percent, though that's within the poll's margin of error of plus-minus 3.36 percentage points.

Despite losing significant support in the NBC/WSJ poll among Republican primary voters, Carson, a former neurosurgeon, still performs competitively against the former secretary of state. He would get 47 percent of the vote in a hypothetical matchup, compared to Clinton's 46 percent. His strong showing would largely be fueled by independent voters, who made up about 11 percent of the poll's sample of registered voters. They would back Carson by double digits, 48 percent to 34 percent.

 Rubio, a senator from Florida, would fare the best overall against Clinton, winning a head-to-head clash 48 percent to 45 percent (also within the poll's margin of error.) Among independents, his margin of victory would be 44 percent to her 37 percent.

Among Hispanics, Rubio would get 36 percent of the vote, compared to Clinton's 59 percent.

Rubio would also perform best with female voters out of the top GOP contenders, capturing 44 percent to Clinton's 51 percent. That's compared to Trump's dismal showing of 33 percent to Clinton's 57 percent.

The NBC/WSJ poll of 1000 adults was conducted December 6-9. It has a margin of error of +/- 3.36 percentage points.

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Re: NBC Poll: Clinton Would Trounce Trump But Lose to Rubio, Carson
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2015, 04:03:01 pm »
LMAO..no way Carson would beat her let alone Rubio....
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Re: NBC Poll: Clinton Would Trounce Trump But Lose to Rubio, Carson
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2015, 04:24:24 pm »

The NBC/WSJ poll of 1000 adults was conducted December 6-9. It has a margin of error of +/- 3.36 percentage points.


Junk polling designed to push a media story line. NO real pollster uses "any adult" polls since 450-475 of these people will not be voting. They are too lazy and disengaged to show up at the polls on Election day. Unless they are polling "Likely Voters", the poll is useless noise

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Re: NBC Poll: Clinton Would Trounce Trump But Lose to Rubio, Carson
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2015, 04:31:09 pm »
This poll supports similar results, from several other recent polls.

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh16gen.htm

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/elections/

Both sites aggregate polls. When just one poll shows a result, lots of skepticism is in order, but when many polls show much the same findings, it is a sound bet they are correct.

I am now prepared to concede that CRUZIE is leading TRUMPIE in Iowa, by the way.

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Re: NBC Poll: Clinton Would Trounce Trump But Lose to Rubio, Carson
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2015, 04:46:20 pm »
The NBC/WSJ poll of 1000 adults was conducted December 6-9. It has a margin of error of +/- 3.36 percentage points.


Junk polling designed to push a media story line. NO real pollster uses "any adult" polls since 450-475 of these people will not be voting. They are too lazy and disengaged to show up at the polls on Election day. Unless they are polling "Likely Voters", the poll is useless noise

Most pollsters use "adults" in a poll like this.  "Likely voters" in the general election are not measured until next August or September. 

Polls have consistently shown Trump losing to Hillary.  Cruz too.
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Re: NBC Poll: Clinton Would Trounce Trump But Lose to Rubio, Carson
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2015, 04:51:25 pm »
LMAO..no way Carson would beat her let alone Rubio....

Me too. Laughing.

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Re: NBC Poll: Clinton Would Trounce Trump But Lose to Rubio, Carson
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2015, 05:32:28 pm »
LMAO..no way Carson would beat her let alone Rubio....
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Re: NBC Poll: Clinton Would Trounce Trump But Lose to Rubio, Carson
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2015, 05:35:43 pm »
Oh, so in other words they are hoping that Carson or Rubio gets the nod; they know that they she has the best chance against the two of them; one with absolutely no experience and one that can't lie as good as she can. 
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Re: NBC Poll: Clinton Would Trounce Trump But Lose to Rubio, Carson
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2015, 05:44:46 pm »
Oh, so in other words they are hoping that Carson or Rubio gets the nod; they know that they she has the best chance against the two of them; one with absolutely no experience and one that can't lie as good as she can.

Yes, going with the opposite of what this push poll wants you to think is probably much more accurate and truthful.  They will always tell us who they fear - and they are trying to steer us (they're just trying to help) to the candidates who will end up with a McCain/Romney redux. 

It's NBC and the WSJ for goodness sake!

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Re: NBC Poll: Clinton Would Trounce Trump But Lose to Rubio, Carson
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2015, 05:48:31 pm »
Oh, so in other words they are hoping that Carson or Rubio gets the nod; they know that they she has the best chance against the two of them; one with absolutely no experience and one that can't lie as good as she can.
Exactly who is "they" in your remark ? The polling companies ? People that read, follow, place some reliability in polls ?

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Re: NBC Poll: Clinton Would Trounce Trump But Lose to Rubio, Carson
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2015, 05:59:12 pm »
Oh, so in other words they are hoping that Carson or Rubio gets the nod; they know that they she has the best chance against the two of them; one with absolutely no experience and one that can't lie as good as she can.
Yes.....you can tell who they don''t want by telling us who they want.


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Re: NBC Poll: Clinton Would Trounce Trump But Lose to Rubio, Carson
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2015, 06:08:19 pm »
Exactly who is "they" in your remark ? The polling companies ? People that read, follow, place some reliability in polls ?

As a fellow Floridian, you have not disguised your obsession against Bush and Rubio well, at all.

'They' meaning the GOPe/DEMS.

No.  I make absolutely no qualms about not liking Rubio and Bush. Both are pro-amnesty in a state that has encountered a tremendous amount of illegal immigrants that have had a significant negative economic impact on Florida.  Not only a negative economic impact but a negative impact on the welfare of legal Floridians.  Try attending a vigil where the names of young children who have been brutally 'victimized' by illegals are read and not have it affect you.  Both Rubio and Bush have continued to allow and in fact encouraged illegal immigration in this state.  Sit down and read through some of the problems presented to students who are now using Bush's 'Common Core' in our educational system ; it sets them up for failure.  It's intent is to dumb down our students and indoctrinate them into the liberal left agenda.

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