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LA RAZA BACKS JEB, SLAMS TRUMP FOR ENGLISH LANGUAGE PATRIOTISM
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LA RAZA BACKS JEB, SLAMS TRUMP FOR ENGLISH LANGUAGE PATRIOTISM

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by JULIA HAHN3 Sep 2015Washington D.C.606

As Donald Trump continues to surge in the polls, he’s received increasing attacks from pro-amnesty rivals like Jeb Bush andSen. Marco Rubio (R-FL).

In a Spanish-language address, Bush declared, “El hombre no es conservador,” which–in English–translates to, “The man [i.e. Trump] is not conservative.”

Trump replied by asserting that if Bush wants to be a leader, “he should really set the example by speaking English while in the United States.”

Technically, becoming a U.S. citizen requires one to achieve English language proficiency. As such, when Bush delivers his attack message in Spanish, he is undermining one of the core tenets of American citizenship– albeit one that is already in tatters as one in five U.S. residents now speaks a language other than English while at home, according to a 2014 report.

Trump’s call for language patriotism, however, received a stinging rebuke from the ethnic advocacy group La Raza. “Every time Donald Trump opens his mouth he widens the gulf between the Republican Party and Latino voters. Today is no exception,” said La Raza spokesperson Lisa Navarrette.

La Raza–which endorsed Rubio’s signature legislation, the Senate Gang of Eight immigration bill–has advocated for a trio of policies that includes permanent toleration for illegal immigration, citizenship for illegal immigrants already residing in country, as well as substantial increases to the annual levels of immigration established by the federal government through green card allotments.

While La Raza has advocated for these policies, the group has never explained why it believes it would be beneficial to America to admit large number of immigrants who have political, economic, and cultural traditions that are vastly different than those of Americans.

La Raza’s rebuke of Trump comes on the heels of a new census data report authored by the nonpartisan Center for Immigration Studies. The report found that “immigrant households use welfare at significantly higher rates than native households,” with more than half of U.S. immigrants on welfare.

Many establishment Republicans who share La Raza’s lobbying goals for expanded immigration from predominantly poor countries, such as Linda Chavez of the Becoming American Institute, argue that concerns about welfare use amongst immigrants is irrelevant and “nativist”.

“These kids who get subsidized school lunches today will go on to graduate high school… will go on to college and move up to the middle class of America,” Chavez told USA Today. Every time we have a nativist backlash in our history, we forget that we see immigrants change very rapidly in the second generation.”

Unfortunately, the findings of the census data report do not support Chavez’s claim–and in fact, perhaps undermine Chavez’s and La Raza’s lobbying efforts. The report details how the disproportionate reliance on welfare continues amongst the American-born children of immigrants.

The report found that 90.8% of Hispanic immigrants use welfare. This high rate of welfare usage extends to second and third generations of immigrant families: 76.4% of native Hispanics report that they use welfare as opposed to 40.8% of native whites.

This report reinforces the previous findings of acclaimed Manhattan Institute scholar Heather Mac Donald, who, a decade ago, observed that both foreign-born Hispanics and their American-born children use welfare at rates which vastly exceed those of native-born whites. “Native-born Hispanics collected welfare at over twice the rate as native-born whites,” Mac Donald writes.

Moreover, the Hispanic population similarly accounted for almost the entire increase in poverty from 1990 to 2004, as Washington Post columnist Robert Samuelson has reported. “The number of Hispanics with incomes below the government’s poverty line [rose] 52 percent; that [represents] almost all (92 percent) of the increase in poor people,” Samuelson writes. “Among children, disparities are greater. Over the same period, Hispanic children in poverty [rose] 43 percent; meanwhile, the numbers of black and non-Hispanic white children in poverty declined 16.9 percent and 18.5 percent, respectively.”

Interestingly, ethnic advocacy groups like La Raza have formed an alliance with big business interest groups like the Chamber of Commerce and tech billionaires in Silicon Valley, who all stand to gain enormous financial profits and increased political power from the further opening of America’s borders.

Silicon Valley has donated heavily to Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, and Hillary Clinton–all three of whom have pushed for yet even easier access for foreign workers to come to the United States and take over jobs from American workers who would require higher salaries.

The number of immigrants in the U.S. is currently at a record high of 42.1 million.

In 1970, fewer than 1 in 21 Americans were foreign-born. Today, as a result of the federal government’s four-decade-long green card gusher, nearly 1 in 7 U.S. residents was born in a foreign country. According to data compiled by the Migration Policy Institute, 1 in 4 Americans is either an immigrant or a child of an immigrant.

Mass immigration has transformed American communities–for instance, a new report shows that Des Moines public schools are, for the first time, now majority minority. And in 8 years time, according to Census Bureau reports, the foreign born share of the U.S. population will reach an all-time high.

Each year, as a consequence of the 1965 immigration law lobbied for by Ted Kennedy, the United States issues more than one million green cards to many of the poorest and least-developed nations in the world. In addition to these green cards are nearly one million handpicked foreign workers imported on work visas, dependents of foreign workers imported on work visas, and refugees, as well as half a million foreign youths sought by college administrators.

Empirical evidence suggests that the admission of a huge flow of newcomers on green cards would dramatically swell the ranks of Democratic voters while also increasing pressure for big government services.

Indeed, as Democratic presidential candidate Lincoln Chafee observed during the Democratic National Committee’s meeting last week: more immigrants means more Democratic voters.

“We [i.e. Democrats] are right on immigration, the fastest growing voting bloc in the country,” Chafee said, “Of course you want people to be treated with respect and to vote Democratic.”

Yet despite La Raza’s activism, Chafee’s pronouncements, and the empirical data, many Republicans support the effort to increase the admission of Democrat-leaning voters who turned the former reliably-Republican state of California into a progressive stronghold and who are rapidly repainting the political landscape of formerly-red Virginia to a permanent shade of blue.

For instance, Congressman Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) told radio host David Webb that “immigrants from the third world” make “some of the best Americans”–presumably more so than immigrants from Western countries.When asked whether he thought “immigrants from the third world are more likely or less likely to support conservative policies,” Ryan declared:

Some of the best Americans are the newest Americans. People who left former Communist countries, people who left scandalous nations that are crony capitalism that deny them their rights. So people who come from those kinds of systems and those kinds of governments can make the best patriots because they finally see and taste what freedom is like, and they want to fight for it. So that kind of a person can make the best American. And the way I look at it, from our Party’s perspective, is we have to do a better job of going into these communities and exposing people to a different mindset– to these principles that they may not even have ever heard or seen before. This is a challenge that conservatives have to answer

Ryan would perhaps be glad to know that about 9 out of every 10 new immigrants brought into the country on green cards is from Latin America, Africa, Asia, or the Middle East.
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Re: LA RAZA BACKS JEB, SLAMS TRUMP FOR ENGLISH LANGUAGE PATRIOTISM
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2015, 01:15:59 am »
La Raza knows who their hombre is!


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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2015, 01:20:03 am »
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In a Spanish-language address, Bush declared, “El hombre no es conservador,” which–in English–translates to, “The man [i.e. Trump] is not conservative.”

That's true no matter what language you say it in:

Trump ist nicht konservativ.

Trump est pas un conservateur.

Trump non è un conservatore.

Trump не консерватор.

Trump não é um conservador.

特朗普是不是一个保守的。

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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2015, 02:08:48 am »
By speaking Spanish in America to Spanish-language--presumably "American"--reporters, Jebbie thinks he's endearing himself to me, a first generation immigrant? Well put me down as being an English-language patriot.

And so I say: Welcome to America! The language is English. Now learn it and speak it.

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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2015, 02:12:52 am »
As the late Terry Anderson would often emphasize... Jeb gets the endorsement from "THE RACE!"
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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2015, 02:29:14 am »
Most of this article could be a 'copy/paste/minor edit' job with regard to opinion pieces from the 1840s, 1860s, 1880s, and 1900s.

"While La Raza has advocated for these policies, the group has never explained why it believes it would be beneficial to America to admit large number of immigrants who have political, economic, and cultural traditions that are vastly different than those of Americans."

Those Germans have political, economic, and cultural traditions that are vastly different than those of Americans.
Those Irish have political, economic, and cultural traditions that are vastly different than those of Americans.
Those Italians have political, economic, and cultural traditions that are vastly different than those of Americans.
Those Chinese have political, economic, and cultural traditions that are vastly different than those of Americans.
Those Russians/Poles/Ukrainians have political, economic, and cultural traditions that are vastly different than those of Americans.


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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2015, 02:40:49 am »
For the most part European and Eurasian immigrants to America took the time to learn English and assimilated. La Rasa and Univision, on the other hand, are dedicated to keeping Latin American people unable to communicate in English because they are the actual nativists--not the Americans who love the English language.

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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2015, 04:25:53 am »
La Raza isn't new to the Bush family. LaRaza has been welcomed by the Bush family since president George H. Bush and continued through George W. Bush and Obama as well as many American (?) corporations who support them. LaRaza isn't simply a civil rights organization for the Hispanics. The organization goes beyond that in defending and promoting civil rights for ILLEGAL Hispanics. Further, the real agenda behind LaRaza is to lead millions of Hispanics including ILLEGALS to flying Mexican flags, defying our laws and demanding concessions and has created several "spin off" organizations  such as the Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan (MEChA), one of the most anti-American groups in the country, which has taken hold on U.S. campuses since the 1960s. In a nutshell they believe in reclaiming the land that was stolen from them by the "gringo" invasion of their territories. 

http://capitalresearch.org/2015/02/la-razas-growing-influence-gaining-clout-and-tax-dollars-in-all-branches-of-government/

http://theothermccain.com/2010/05/30/indigenous-mexicans-la-raza-and-the-reconquista-myth/

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=18687

http://www.theamericanresistance.com/race_industry/laraza_contributors.html
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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2015, 04:40:56 am »
Most of this article could be a 'copy/paste/minor edit' job with regard to opinion pieces from the 1840s, 1860s, 1880s, and 1900s.

"While La Raza has advocated for these policies, the group has never explained why it believes it would be beneficial to America to admit large number of immigrants who have political, economic, and cultural traditions that are vastly different than those of Americans."

Those Germans have political, economic, and cultural traditions that are vastly different than those of Americans.
Those Irish have political, economic, and cultural traditions that are vastly different than those of Americans.
Those Italians have political, economic, and cultural traditions that are vastly different than those of Americans.
Those Chinese have political, economic, and cultural traditions that are vastly different than those of Americans.
Those Russians/Poles/Ukrainians have political, economic, and cultural traditions that are vastly different than those of Americans.

They also came here to be part of the melting pot.

They didn't come here as conquistadors.
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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2015, 04:55:00 am »
They also came here to be part of the melting pot.

They didn't come here as conquistadors.

LaRaza and other spin off groups are here to reclaim their territory; they want a dictator to achieve their goal.


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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2015, 05:02:11 pm »
http://ic.galegroup.com/ic/uhic/ReferenceDetailsPage/ReferenceDetailsWindow?zid=a1bdd01f59dacbddab4e6bea68b2a54e&action=2&documentId=GALE%7CCX3436800018&userGroupName=gray02935&jsid=f6ef0c62ec142c368bfc2a12c90b49ea

I really suggest you read this about German immigration to the US in the 1800s (heyday being the 1850s)

Germans settled entire towns, where the language was German and the laws were based on their homeland.  And that lasted up until WWI.

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I'm really not seeing much of a difference here.

And I'd also point out that if anyone here wears jeans, you can thank one of those German immigrants for despoiling our American culture with them. 

Levi-Strauss.

Not exactly 'American', you see.

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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2015, 05:05:20 pm »
LaRaza and other spin off groups are here to reclaim their territory; they want a dictator to achieve their goal.

La Raza means 'The Race', which makes them the Hispanic equivalent of the KKK.

Not that the msm or 'conservative' media will let anyone in on that fact...

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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2015, 05:10:41 pm »
La Raza means 'The Race', which makes them the Hispanic equivalent of the KKK.

Not that the msm or 'conservative' media will let anyone in on that fact...

If I lived in the 1850s, it would sound just like the Irish-American organization called the "Ancient Order of Hibernians".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Order_of_Hibernians

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« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2015, 05:11:38 pm »
http://ic.galegroup.com/ic/uhic/ReferenceDetailsPage/ReferenceDetailsWindow?zid=a1bdd01f59dacbddab4e6bea68b2a54e&action=2&documentId=GALE%7CCX3436800018&userGroupName=gray02935&jsid=f6ef0c62ec142c368bfc2a12c90b49ea

I really suggest you read this about German immigration to the US in the 1800s (heyday being the 1850s)

Germans settled entire towns, where the language was German and the laws were based on their homeland.  And that lasted up until WWI.

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I'm really not seeing much of a difference here.

And I'd also point out that if anyone here wears jeans, you can thank one of those German immigrants for despoiling our American culture with them. 

Levi-Strauss.

Not exactly 'American', you see.

There's quite a bit of difference between that and the reconquista mindset of groups like La Raza or the kill whitey attitude of #blacklivesmatter. It's natural for immigrants to be clannish, but this is not that.
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« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2015, 05:16:27 pm »
There's quite a bit of difference between that and the reconquista mindset of groups like La Raza or the kill whitey attitude of #blacklivesmatter. It's natural for immigrants to be clannish, but this is not that.

It puts paid to the notion that Hispanic immigrants are somehow 'different' because they don't assimilate or learn our language.  The Chinese and Japanese immigrants did the same, hence the Chinatowns and Little Tokyos.

Furthermore, you should read the information at the link.
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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2015, 05:43:07 pm »
For the most part European and Eurasian immigrants to America took the time to learn English and assimilated. La Rasa and Univision, on the other hand, are dedicated to keeping Latin American people unable to communicate in English because they are the actual nativists--not the Americans who love the English language.
Geographical proximity is the key. Switzerland uses German, Italian and French because they are next door. Sweden uses Finnish and Sami because they are next door.

The US does NOT use Italian, German because they are NOT next door. But Mexico IS next door, and part of the US were colonies of Spain, then territories of Mexico before becoming incorporated into the US. Geographical proximity.

Very good bilingual language skills are very common in the Southwest of the US, for those who don't know it. Quite common for native born people to keep the ancestral language, and grow up in the English speaking world of America.

For me it simply falls into the category of reality. I recall showing up for a lunch appointment with a friend, who is a US Army veteran, went to the same state college and had same major as me, became a lawyer, and is Hispanic. I assumed he didn't even speak Spanish.

But on this day he had a new legal secretary, and I walked into the lobby to find them going on full speed in Spanish.

Within my wife's Italian immigrant family, it is customary to ONLY use Italian when two Italian speakers are alone together. If they are in the presence of English only speakers, they use English. The younger ones joke about how little Italian they know.

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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2015, 05:44:37 pm »
It puts paid to the notion that Hispanic immigrants are somehow 'different' because they don't assimilate or learn our language.  The Chinese and Japanese immigrants did the same, hence the Chinatowns and Little Tokyos.

Furthermore, you should read the information at the link.

You are deliberately missing the point. Groups like La Raza are supremist and separatist. They prefer not only not to assimilate, but to ethnic cleanse other races out of their reconquista territory. Past immigrants by and large have been patriotic and not wishing to take over territory.  Nor has our govt given any of these types quarter like the Dems do with La Raza.
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« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2015, 06:00:01 pm »
http://ic.galegroup.com/ic/uhic/ReferenceDetailsPage/ReferenceDetailsWindow?zid=a1bdd01f59dacbddab4e6bea68b2a54e&action=2&documentId=GALE%7CCX3436800018&userGroupName=gray02935&jsid=f6ef0c62ec142c368bfc2a12c90b49ea

I really suggest you read this about German immigration to the US in the 1800s (heyday being the 1850s)

Germans settled entire towns, where the language was German and the laws were based on their homeland.  And that lasted up until WWI.

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I'm really not seeing much of a difference here.

And I'd also point out that if anyone here wears jeans, you can thank one of those German immigrants for despoiling our American culture with them. 

Levi-Strauss.

Not exactly 'American', you see.
Germans have been a part of the American culture since long before that. Whole swaths of Pennsylvania were German-controlled. As early as 1794, there was a proposal to publish certain laws in German. The first ever U.S. Speaker of the House was the son of Germans.
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« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2015, 06:13:35 pm »
JEB dice Mexico, SI, America, NO, NO, NO!

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« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2015, 06:14:51 pm »
La Raza knows who their hombre is!



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« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2015, 06:15:04 pm »
Nor has our govt given any of these types quarter like the Dems do with La Raza.

The Dems are and always have been racists.

From the KKK to Jim Crow to La Raza and BlackLivesMatter... anyone with half a brain can see that...

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« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2015, 08:29:15 pm »
The Dems are and always have been racists.

From the KKK to Jim Crow to La Raza and BlackLivesMatter... anyone with half a brain can see that...

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« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2015, 08:38:15 pm »
Germans have been a part of the American culture since long before that. Whole swaths of Pennsylvania were German-controlled. As early as 1794, there was a proposal to publish certain laws in German. The first ever U.S. Speaker of the House was the son of Germans.

And that elicits no outrage from you.  Now, the same statement applies to hispanics... but the outrage is deafening.

Hispanics have been a part of the American culture. Whole swaths of the American southwest were hispanic-controlled. As early as XXXX, there was a proposal to publish certain laws in Spanish.

Nothing is different between this group of immigrants and those of the past.
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« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2015, 08:48:30 pm »
And that elicits no outrage from you.  Now, the same statement applies to hispanics... but the outrage is deafening.

Hispanics have been a part of the American culture. Whole swaths of the American southwest were hispanic-controlled. As early as XXXX, there was a proposal to publish certain laws in Spanish.

Nothing is different between this group of immigrants and those of the past.
I expect this kind of argument from a 3-year-old who is just trying to get on his older brother's nerves by repeating the same thing the older brother says over and over again. I mean, you couldn't even come up with a date and left XXXX in there?
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« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2015, 09:00:31 pm »
I expect this kind of argument from a 3-year-old who is just trying to get on his older brother's nerves by repeating the same thing the older brother says over and over again. I mean, you couldn't even come up with a date and left XXXX in there?

The point is that the situations are eerily similar.  So why are you outraged?