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Jeb Bush: NSA needs broader powers to combat 'evildoers'
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Jeb Bush: NSA needs broader powers to combat 'evildoers'
 

ATLANTA (AP) — Republican presidential hopeful Jeb Bush said Tuesday that the government should have broad surveillance powers of Americans and private technology firms should cooperate better with intelligence agencies to help combat "evildoers."

At a national security forum in the early voting state of South Carolina, Bush put himself at odds with Republican congressional leaders who earlier this year voted to end the National Security Agency's bulk collection of phone records.

The former Florida governor said Congress should revisit its changes to the Patriot Act, and he dismissed concerns from civil libertarians who say the program violated citizens' constitutionally protected privacy rights.

"There's a place to find common ground between personal civil liberties and NSA doing its job," Bush said. "I think the balance has actually gone the wrong way."

Bush also said the U.S. should send more troops — he didn't say how many — and equipment to eastern European nations in response to Russia's increasingly aggressive posture in the region. He said Russian President Vladimir Putin should know that his "adventurism" comes with "a price to pay."

"Rather than reacting to the bad behavior, I think we need to be more forward-leaning as it relates to what the consequences will be," Bush said.

The remarks were part of Bush's ongoing efforts to pitch an aggressive foreign policy as he struggles to break out of a crowded Republican presidential primary in which businessman and former television reality star Donald Trump has garnered much of the attention.

Pushing a hawkish foreign policy is a staple of Republican presidential politics. The exception is Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, and even the libertarian-leaning senator has refused to take military action off the table as he argues for a reduced American footprint around the world.

Yet for Bush, the discussion comes with particular challenges as he tries to distance himself from former President George W. Bush, the candidate's brother, who signed the Patriot Act into law and oversaw the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

Congress voted in June to end the bulk collection of American phone records under the Patriot Act, a controversial program that NSA contractor Edward Snowden disclosed publicly in 2013. The Obama administration announced recently that the agency later this year would destroy all the remaining records that already had been collected.

Bush doubled-down Tuesday on his assertions that there is "no evidence" the data collection violated civil liberties. "I've found not one" case, he said.

The Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, an independent bipartisan agency, declared NSA's phone records collections program illegal in 2014, and a federal court of appeals reached the same conclusion earlier this year.

A May analysis from the Justice Department found that FBI agents interviewed by the inspector general's office "did not identify any major case developments" that came from using Section 215 that allowed the bulk records collection.

Bush also criticized private technology firms for using encryption to make it harder for their customers to be surveilled. "It makes it harder for the American government to do its job while protecting civil liberties to make sure evildoers aren't in our midst," he said.

Noting that companies like Google are getting pressure from customers, Bush said "market share ... should not be the be-all-end-all," and he called for "a new arrangement with Silicon Valley in this regard."

Separately, Bush told CBS News that he disagreed with rival Donald Trump on the birthright of children born in the United States to parents who are immigrants living in the country illegally.

"That's a constitutional right," Bush said. "Mr. Trump can say he's for this because people are frustrated that it's abused. We ought to fix the problem rather than take away rights that are constitutionally endowed."

Bush also opposed Trump's idea of a fence or wall along the border.

"It's not realistic to create a fence in places where fences can't be built. You'd have people, American citizens, on the south side of the fence in some places. Or they're on the wrong side of the fence," Bush said.

 
 
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Offline EdinVA

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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2015, 11:44:55 am »
When will the GOP understand that we are giving up our liberties and growing the size and reach of government simply because we refuse to secure the borders and take stock of who is here?


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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2015, 11:46:06 am »
Realistic to spy on American citizens.  Unrealistic to build border fence to keep out foreign invaders.  Does not believe in "rule of law".  Candidate is ineligible.
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2015, 12:20:41 pm »
When will the GOP understand that we are giving up our liberties and growing the size and reach of government simply because we refuse to secure the borders and take stock of who is here?

When it begins to negatively affect them.
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2015, 02:45:23 pm »

When it begins to negatively affect them.

Their is a reason they are called " The Party of Stupid"

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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2015, 02:54:56 pm »
Their is a reason they are called " The Party of Stupid"
Yeah... as long as people believe that their 'stoopid'... there real loyalty to the globalists is concealed...


                                 




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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2015, 04:07:00 pm »
This is why Jeb will lose. 
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2015, 04:11:47 pm »
Their is a reason they are called " The Party of Stupid"

No, there is a reason they are called "The Party of Stupid" and the story of that is here:

http://www.redstate.com/diary/barrypopik/2011/04/13/origin-of-stupid-party-evil-party/

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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2015, 04:13:19 pm »
This is why Jeb will lose.

Once upon a time National Security was not a hated item to the right.

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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2015, 04:50:14 pm »
Once upon a time National Security was not a hated item to the right.

Once upon a time the GOP establishment represented conservative ideals and principles.
I Believe in the United States of America as a Government of the people, by the people, for the people; whose just powers are derived from the consent of the governed; a democracy in a republic; a sovereign nation of many sovereign states; a perfect union one and inseparable; established upon those principles of freedom, equality, justice and humanity for which American patriots sacrificed their lives and fortunes.  I therefore believe it is my duty to my country to love it; to support its Constitution; to obey its laws to respect its flag; and to defend it against all enemies.

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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2015, 04:54:14 pm »
Once upon a time the GOP establishment represented conservative ideals and principles.

NSA, its mission and methods have never bothered me either when the GOP or the Democrats were in charge of National Security.  I think the threat from them is overblown. 

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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2015, 05:00:00 pm »
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Jeb Bush: NSA needs broader powers to combat 'evildoers'

Kindda makes one wonder when Jeb last read a newspaper.   :pondering:

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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2015, 09:21:30 pm »
Once upon a time National Security was not a hated item to the right.

I've noticed that.  And sequestration is *STILL* lopping 5% off of military budgets on a yearly basis.  The Army is cutting 40,000 soldiers because they can no longer afford them.

The d@#n Democrats are now more pro-military (in real terms - ie: willingness to pony up the money) than our own party, now.

Reagan is rolling over in his grave.
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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2015, 09:27:16 pm »
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"evildoers"
  Did he have his big boy pants on when he said this?