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George Will: Donald Trump is a counterfeit Republican
« on: August 13, 2015, 04:49:42 pm »
George F. Will
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August 12, 2015

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In every town large enough to have two traffic lights there is a bar at the back of which sits the local Donald Trump, nursing his fifth beer and innumerable delusions. Because the actual Donald Trump is wealthy, he can turn himself into an unprecedentedly and incorrigibly vulgar presidential candidate. It is his right to use his riches as he pleases. His squalid performance and its coarsening of civic life are costs of freedom that an open society must be prepared to pay.

When, however, Trump decided that his next acquisition would be not another casino but the Republican presidential nomination, he tactically and quickly underwent many conversions of convenience (concerning abortion, health care, funding Democrats, etc.). His makeover demonstrates that he is a counterfeit Republican and no conservative.
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Same article with different title at National Review: Donald Trump Is an Affront to Anyone Devoted to William F. Buckley’s Legacy

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Re: George Will: Donald Trump is a counterfeit Republican
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2015, 08:37:10 pm »
George, there's a huge boulder heading right for your glass house.
The Republic is lost.

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Re: George Will: Donald Trump is a counterfeit Republican
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2015, 03:44:49 am »
By some definitions, including mine, so is Will.
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Re: George Will: Donald Trump is a counterfeit Republican
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2015, 03:50:53 am »
By some definitions, including mine, so is Will.

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Pat Buchanan: GOP Elites Call for Purge of Trump
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2015, 04:17:41 pm »
Here's a rebuttal for you Trumpbots.

GOP Elites Call for Purge of Trump

Patrick J. Buchanan
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August 13, 2015

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In the Cleveland debate, Donald Trump refused to commit to support whomever the Republican Party nominates in 2016.

Trump would be wise to maintain his freedom of action.

For there is a plot afoot in The Washington Post Conservative Club to purge Trump from the Republican Party before the primaries begin.

“A political party has a right to … secure its borders,” asserts the Post’s George Will, “a duty to exclude interlopers.” Will wants The Donald “excommunicated” and locked out of all GOP debates until he kneels and takes a loyalty oath to the nominee.
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Re: George Will: Donald Trump is a counterfeit Republican
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2015, 04:24:53 pm »
Here's a rebuttal for you Trumpbots.

GOP Elites Call for Purge of Trump

Patrick J. Buchanan
Buchanan.org
August 13, 2015
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"Trumpbots"? Pining for TOS, are we?
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Re: George Will: Donald Trump is a counterfeit Republican
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2015, 05:05:46 pm »
"Trumpbots"? Pining for TOS, are we?

OK. Make that Trump supporters, then.  ^-^

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Re: George Will: Donald Trump is a counterfeit Republican
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2015, 05:09:12 pm »
George, there's a huge boulder heading right for your glass house. 

Well said!!   88devil


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Re: George Will: Donald Trump is a counterfeit Republican
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2015, 05:46:59 pm »
Having Trump in the republican presidential primary certainly has exposed some –maybe all– of the establishment GOP as being as governmental as the Left.

They wish to silence Trump on politically correct grounds. Sounds like speech is under attack from the George Wills and Michael Gersons of the Party.

General question. So who's side are you on?

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Re: George Will: Donald Trump is a counterfeit Republican
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2015, 05:49:52 pm »
Having Trump in the republican presidential primary certainly has exposed some –maybe all– of the establishment GOP as being as governmental as the Left.

They wish to silence Trump on politically correct grounds. Sounds like speech is under attack from the George Wills and Michael Gersons of the Party.

General question. So who's side are you on?

Both George Will and Gerson are definitely better men than Trump and probably more conservative.

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Re: George Will: Donald Trump is a counterfeit Republican
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2015, 06:04:52 pm »
General question. So who's side are you on?

I don't want to silence Trump or anyone else.

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Re: George Will: Donald Trump is a counterfeit Republican
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2015, 06:54:30 pm »
Will must be a masochist.

He was a person non grata for the entire GHWB term, for insulting the Bush family.

And he won't see the inside of the White House anytime soon, either.
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Re: George Will: Donald Trump is a counterfeit Republican
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2015, 07:22:33 pm »
He was a person non grata for the entire GHWB term, for insulting the Bush family.
Will called GHWB a stammering cipher.

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LAMB: In your book you say, "poor George Bush." And you say things like this: "Bush has at least been useful by demonstrating what happens to that reliance when the president is a stammering cipher." I might stop to ask you what a stammering cipher is, first of all.

WILL: That's someone who has nothing to say and doesn't say it very well.
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Re: George Will: Donald Trump is a counterfeit Republican
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2015, 07:25:56 pm »
Will called GHWB a stammering cipher.
http://www.booknotes.org/FullPage.aspx?SID=33238-1

Called him a lapdog too.  Will seemed a little cranky at the time.

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Re: George Will: Donald Trump is a counterfeit Republican
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2015, 08:45:17 pm »
Called him a lapdog too.  Will seemed a little cranky at the time.

That's the only example to which I was aware.  "Stammering cipher"?  Who would say such a thing? 

As was suggested, he may have sipped too much alcohol. 

BTW...I always have a thesaurus handy when I read George Will.  Feel like I'm taking a class.    :laugh:
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Re: George Will: Donald Trump is a counterfeit Republican
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2015, 08:58:47 pm »
Georges problems is he is arrogant and thinks that his definition of life is the only definition there is.
He needs to go away...

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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2015, 10:30:37 pm »
Georges problems is he is arrogant and thinks that his definition of life is the only definition there is.
He needs to go away...

Aw he's all right.  Says something funny occasionally like Krauthammer.

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Re: George Will: Donald Trump is a counterfeit Republican
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2015, 10:33:19 pm »
Aw he's all right.  Says something funny occasionally like Krauthammer.

Can't dislike any man who has a passion for baseball.    :shrug: 
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Re: George Will: Donald Trump is a counterfeit Republican
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2015, 10:47:08 pm »
BTW...I always have a thesaurus handy when I read George Will.  Feel like I'm taking a class.    :laugh:

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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2015, 10:53:09 pm »
Can't dislike any man who has a passion for baseball.    :shrug:

Well I like baeball too, and why not being a life long Cardinals fan I've been amply rewarded, but to me Will got a little silly about it.

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Re: George Will: Donald Trump is a counterfeit Republican
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2015, 11:14:19 pm »
Well I like baeball too, and why not being a life long Cardinals fan I've been amply rewarded, but to me Will got a little silly about it.

Well, you can enjoy the hell out of baseball from outside the lines.  Will likes to think in the abstract.

And as I've said here before, baseball can be enjoyed on many, many different levels.

Would love to hear his assessment of these anemic NATS.  We've got 5 starters hitting from .186 to .226.  And they don't like walks.

Pulling my freaking hair out.    :laugh: :patriot:

And I'm jealous of what you've got going in St. Louis.   They get 110% out of everybody.  Everyday.

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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2015, 11:20:18 pm »
Well, you can enjoy the hell out of baseball from outside the lines.  Will likes to think in the abstract.

And as I've said here before, baseball can be enjoyed on many, many different levels.

Would love to hear his assessment of these anemic NATS.  We've got 5 starters hitting from .186 to .226.  And they don't like walks.

Pulling my freaking hair out.    :laugh: :patriot:

Trade 'em to the Cardinals.  They'll start hitting better or even more importantly get their few hits in the most important situations.

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Re: George Will: Donald Trump is a counterfeit Republican
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2015, 11:37:01 pm »
Can't dislike any man who has a passion for baseball.    :shrug:

Maybe he should just be a sports writer.
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« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2015, 11:54:46 pm »
Maybe he should just be a sports writer.

He'd be a helluva one.  ''

I like Tom Boswell, too.  He paints when he writes about the sport.
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"Journalism is about covering the news.  With a pillow.  Until it stops moving."    - David Burge (Iowahawk)

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

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« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2015, 12:04:01 am »
He'd be a helluva one.  ''

I like Tom Boswell, too.  He paints when he writes about the sport.

DC is trapped in hell..if anything a football city and now they'll either surrender that outfit or rename it something innocuous like  The Washington Sufferagettes or something.