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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2014/10/03/lena-dunham-raped-by-republican

by JOHN NOLTE  3 Oct 2014

In her just-released memoir, 27 year-old "Girls" star Lena Dunham claims that as a 19 year-old Oberlin College student in Ohio, she was raped by a college Republican. In the first chapter that addresses the encounter, Dunham describes the "ill-fated evening of lovemaking" as awkward and hollow. The most sensational moment comes from the fact that "Barry" wasn't wearing a condom.
In the next chapter, Dunham backtracks with the claim that she's an "unreliable narrator" and accuses "Barry" of rape:

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In another essay in this book I describe a sexual encounter with a mustachioed campus Republican as the upsetting but educational choice of a girl who was new to sex when, in fact, it didn't feel like a choice at all.

At the time, Dunham says she was drunk, high on Xanax and cocaine, and therefore in no condition to give her consent. She had no idea she had been raped until she described the encounter to her roommate:

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"Barry leads me to the parking lot," she writes. "I tell him to look away. I pull down my tights to pee, and he jams a few of his fingers inside me, like he’s trying to plug me up. I’m not sure whether I can’t stop it or I don’t want to."

The two then go back to her apartment, and Dunham -- in an attempt to convince herself that she'd given consent -- talks dirty to him as he forces himself on her.

The following day, when Dunham tells her roommate, Audrey, about the encounter, Audrey is horrified by her admission and tells Dunham, "You were raped."

"I burst out laughing," Dunham writes of her initial reaction.

Years later, while sitting in the writer's room of HBO's "Girls," she pitches a "version of the Barry story" to her co-writers. She doesn't call the incident rape, but her co-writers do.

According to this website and a Cleveland newspaper the statute of limitations for rape in the state of Ohio is 20 years. Dunham told Howard Stern the rape occurred 8 or 9 years ago but that she was only just recently able to come to terms with what happened. She has said nothing one way or the other about filing rape charges against "Barry."
Dunham is now a public advocate for reforming campus sexual consent laws. Hopefully, Dunham will be moved to file official charges against her rapist before another woman becomes a victim.
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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2014, 09:25:30 am »
What a crock of crap! Sorry, but when you get drunk and loaded up on Xanax and cocaine - and you're peeing in front of, and talking "dirty" to a guy - who is probably equally loaded up.............you are begging a guy to have sex with you!  He is getting mixed signals.

If there are any college-age girls reading this - in case your mother hasn't had this talk with you (and why the hell hasn't she???) - DO NOT allow yourself to get intoxicated to the point where you are not sure if you were raped last night!!!!!!

It's called commonsense, and young women today are woefully ill-equipped with it - thanks to our culture of sex, sex, sex, SEX.

Lena Dunham is mentally ill - and anyway - who the hell wants to read the memoirs of a 27 year old woman? 

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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2014, 09:26:52 am »
Should have stayed away from republicans.
Everyone knows they're mostly rapists and perverts.
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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2014, 09:39:24 am »
I'm not "college age." I'm 28, but I am female. So here is my perspective, and it's pretty crude.

A female friend of mine put it best when she said, "Understanding men is a lot easier when you realize they are basically biological vehicles for sperm."

Girls do mature earlier physically, but my opinion is that, for the most part (There are many exceptions), men and women's mentality is different. Woman have to be more selective about fertilizing their eggs. Propagation wise it makes sense for men to just throw it all around, so it makes sense that there is an element of aggression from men to women.

She never mentions saying no. She never mentions trying to slow it down and talk about her discomfort. Once a girl begins to experience boys, it doesn't take all of 2.5 seconds to figure out what boys want. I agree the mixed signals she sent at the least were heinous. Quite frankly, she sounds like an effing idiot.

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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2014, 09:47:41 am »
I'm not "college age." I'm 28, but I am female. So here is my perspective, and it's pretty crude.

A female friend of mine put it best when she said, "Understanding men is a lot easier when you realize they are basically biological vehicles for sperm."

Girls do mature earlier physically, but my opinion is that, for the most part (There are many exceptions), men and women's mentality is different. Woman have to be more selective about fertilizing their eggs. Propagation wise it makes sense for men to just throw it all around, so it makes sense that there is an element of aggression from men to women.

She never mentions saying no. She never mentions trying to slow it down and talk about her discomfort. Once a girl begins to experience boys, it doesn't take all of 2.5 seconds to figure out what boys want. I agree the mixed signals she sent at the least were heinous. Quite frankly, she sounds like an effing idiot.

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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2014, 10:08:18 am »
I'm not "college age." I'm 28, but I am female. So here is my perspective, and it's pretty crude.

A female friend of mine put it best when she said, "Understanding men is a lot easier when you realize they are basically biological vehicles for sperm."

Girls do mature earlier physically, but my opinion is that, for the most part (There are many exceptions), men and women's mentality is different. Woman have to be more selective about fertilizing their eggs. Propagation wise it makes sense for men to just throw it all around, so it makes sense that there is an element of aggression from men to women.

She never mentions saying no. She never mentions trying to slow it down and talk about her discomfort. Once a girl begins to experience boys, it doesn't take all of 2.5 seconds to figure out what boys want. I agree the mixed signals she sent at the least were heinous. Quite frankly, she sounds like an effing idiot.

...and it's going to become worse and/or more common since they've determined boys and girls should use the same restrooms and showers.

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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2014, 10:08:26 am »
Quite frankly, she sounds like an effing idiot.

Yeah, but libs are never responsible for anything that happens in their lives.

It's always those eeeeevil Republican men who are to blame.

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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2014, 10:22:06 am »
I'm not "college age." I'm 28, but I am female. So here is my perspective, and it's pretty crude.

A female friend of mine put it best when she said, "Understanding men is a lot easier when you realize they are basically biological vehicles for sperm."

Girls do mature earlier physically, but my opinion is that, for the most part (There are many exceptions), men and women's mentality is different. Woman have to be more selective about fertilizing their eggs. Propagation wise it makes sense for men to just throw it all around, so it makes sense that there is an element of aggression from men to women.

She never mentions saying no. She never mentions trying to slow it down and talk about her discomfort. Once a girl begins to experience boys, it doesn't take all of 2.5 seconds to figure out what boys want. I agree the mixed signals she sent at the least were heinous. Quite frankly, she sounds like an effing idiot.
As a man who is also in his upper 20s, I wouldn't say that we're all just looking to throw our sperm around. (I tend to be pretty cautious about who I court, and I can say it's saved me a lot of trouble in at least a couple of cases! Then again, I am an unusual case.) I will admit that quite a few men do, especially in a college setting, and this man who Dunham was with probably had the same mindset. As for his political affiliation, I doubt you would've found very many Republicans at a college like Oberlin anyway. As Wikipedia notes, “Oberlin students have a reputation for being notably liberal, libertarian or progressive—” and since Dunham is about our age, that would've put the incident in 2005 when she was attending, at a time when libertarians had nowhere near the influence in the GOP (then still strongly dominated by the moral values crowd) that they do now. The chances of her running into a Republican at Oberlin were pretty lousy.

This anecdote doesn't quite pass the smell test with me.

and anyway - who the hell wants to read the memoirs of a 27 year old woman? 
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2014, 12:18:48 pm »
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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2014, 09:25:42 pm »
I think it's amazing that she found a Republican at that leftist hellhole of a college.
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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2014, 09:50:37 pm »
Yeah, but libs are never responsible for anything that happens in their lives.

It's always those eeeeevil Republican men who are to blame.

Here's your sign...

Yes but, why would a nice, intellectually superior, pure, innocent, LIBERAL, be anywhere near a neandrethal REPUBLICAN?
 
If any of this even happened, which I doubt, it would be her fault for hanging around with the worst kind of human beings on Earth. If she was knowingly in the company of Christian, Tea Party, sort of Republican, patriots, then she should have known the danger she was in from those kind of people.
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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2014, 07:54:59 am »
As a man who is also in his upper 20s, I wouldn't say that we're all just looking to throw our sperm around. (I tend to be pretty cautious about who I court, and I can say it's saved me a lot of trouble in at least a couple of cases! Then again, I am an unusual case.) I will admit that quite a few men do, especially in a college setting, and this man who Dunham was with probably had the mindset.

Oh ya, I was trying to be tongue in cheek about it. I know plenty of men who think with their brain and not their nads. You sound like one of them, and those are typically the kind of men I prefer to associate with.

I just thought her comment was a pretty good explanation for male behavior, but it doesn't apply to a lot of people. On that note, I've met plenty of women who are not very selective about who fertilizes their eggs.........

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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2014, 09:11:39 am »

I just thought her comment was a pretty good explanation for male behavior, but it doesn't apply to a lot of people. On that note, I've met plenty of women who are not very selective about who fertilizes their eggs.........


I submit most unmarried women are not contemplating who's a potential father or not. 

You're over-thinking it.   It's more a case of getting instant gratification.   Like an itch that needs scratching...   :laugh:
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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2014, 09:42:38 am »
 My friend who made the statement studies animal behavior (not like, training dogs or something. She does research)

But that's the hard thing about discussing differences between men and women. We'll never really know since we can't experience what the other gender experiences. I think I'm pretty spot on for the most part. Think of how many men have multiple wives, but you don't hear about polyandrous women so much.

And here's the thing. Women talk about you guys. Like, we talk about you All The Time actually. I'm a part of a women's group thing (long story there) that has a purpose, but when we get together we tend to talk in great detail about our men. So I think it is safe to say, though it is an itch that needs to be scratched for women too, men tend to have a full blown rash (wow that is a hilarious metaphor. Maybe I should delete that. Nah.)

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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2014, 11:26:56 am »
I submit most unmarried women are not contemplating who's a potential father or not. 

You're over-thinking it.   It's more a case of getting instant gratification.   Like an itch that needs scratching...   :laugh:
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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2014, 11:51:37 am »
I'm sorry I clicked on this thread; 10 minutes of my life I'll never get back.....................who in hell is Lena Dunham?
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« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2014, 12:17:56 pm »

I'm sorry I clicked on this thread; 10 minutes of my life I'll never get back.......


LOL! 

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« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2014, 01:19:25 pm »
I'm sorry I clicked on this thread; 10 minutes of my life I'll never get back.....................who in hell is Lena Dunham?
Some stupid fat cow of a leftist celebrity, known  for taking off her clothes. I understand that, thanks to Lena, sales of eye bleach are way up.
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« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2014, 02:05:57 pm »
I'm sorry I clicked on this thread; 10 minutes of my life I'll never get back.....................who in hell is Lena Dunham?

Wow. So, apologies if saying men are vehicles of sperm touched on the wrong nerves. There was supposed to be an element of humor.

Hey, if you guys ever wonder why conservatives are having such a tough time reaching out to women, look at these responses, right here. I'm telling you how most women feel: That men are more sex driven, and your responses are very condescending.

Good luck with that whole conservative revival thing.... You just lost a young, conservative, female poster on this site. I'm not seeing too many around here.

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« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2014, 02:21:24 pm »
If you're referring to my comment, B, I'm a woman. But for her stupid comments and press coverage, I wouldn't know who Lena is, either, because I don't watch much TV and no HBO.
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« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2014, 02:34:59 pm »
Wow. So, apologies if saying men are vehicles of sperm touched on the wrong nerves. There was supposed to be an element of humor.

Hey, if you guys ever wonder why conservatives are having such a tough time reaching out to women, look at these responses, right here. I'm telling you how most women feel: That men are more sex driven, and your responses are very condescending.

Good luck with that whole conservative revival thing.... You just lost a young, conservative, female poster on this site. I'm not seeing too many around here.

Sorry but the comments are not all about you.

A lot of them are directed toward the person who made the statement being discussed.


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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2014, 03:06:59 pm »
Wow. So, apologies if saying men are vehicles of sperm touched on the wrong nerves. There was supposed to be an element of humor.

Hey, if you guys ever wonder why conservatives are having such a tough time reaching out to women, look at these responses, right here. I'm telling you how most women feel: That men are more sex driven, and your responses are very condescending.

Good luck with that whole conservative revival thing.... You just lost a young, conservative, female poster on this site. I'm not seeing too many around here.

Briskirn, I hope you won't leave, I was really enjoying hearing from you.  I don't think the guys were addressing you specifically - and believe me - I took your comments with plenty of humor!  I think you were exactly right. 

Believe me, just because this is a conservative site - one thing you have to know - conservatives fight plenty amongst themselves!  Probably as much as we fight the opposition.  That's the difference between a conservative and a liberal.  Liberals tend to think more in "groups" and conservatives tend to think more as "individuals" - or lone wolves. 

Some people don't like to disagree with others on a forum - others use it as an opportunity to sharpen our viewpoints.

Again - please don't leave us.  We need a younger viewpoint than most of us have - and from my viewpoint - we need more women on here!  I want to hear your point of view!

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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2014, 03:21:59 pm »
Again - please don't leave us.  We need a younger viewpoint than most of us have - and from my viewpoint - we need more women on here!  I want to hear your point of view!

Ya think she was just trolling?

I didn't see anything particularly objectionable from anyone.

Maybe the young, conservative, females just ain't what they used to be...


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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2014, 03:32:16 pm »
Ya think she was just trolling?

I didn't see anything particularly objectionable from anyone.

Maybe the young, conservative, females just ain't what they used to be...

Well Dan - I remember when I was her age and I was much more idealistic than I am now.  I don't know your age - but 58 years have made me pretty cynical and somewhat burned out.  I like talking with younger people because it helps me to remember when I thought the future was distant - not staring me right in the face like it is now.

I think the back and forth exchange we engage in here is perhaps a bit shocking to young people, because they might not be used to it.  It is like a game to us - but we've had years to sharpen our claws and thicken our hides. 

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« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2014, 03:55:13 pm »
I think the back and forth exchange we engage in here is perhaps a bit shocking to young people, because they might not be used to it.  It is like a game to us - but we've had years to sharpen our claws and thicken our hides. 

Maybe so, but you could say that someone who says men are 'vehicles of sperm' with an 'element of humor' was looking for a reason to be offended.

And then telling us what a wonderful person we just 'lost' because our comments are 'condescending'?

Oh well...

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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2014, 03:58:51 pm »
Maybe so, but you could say that someone who says men are 'vehicles of sperm' with an 'element of humor' was looking for a reason to be offended.

And then telling us what a wonderful person we just 'lost' because our comments are 'condescending'?

Oh well...

Trust me Dan - "vehicles of sperm" is much cleaned up from what women REALLY say when men aren't around!   :silly:   :silly:   :silly:

Seriously, I hope she reconsiders and comes back.  I think she's got potential. 

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« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2014, 04:02:57 pm »
Trust me Dan - "vehicles of sperm" is much cleaned up from what women REALLY say when men aren't around!

Now my wife tells me I should hear all the wonderful things she says about me when I'm not around!


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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2014, 04:14:40 pm »
Now my wife tells me I should hear all the wonderful things she says about me when I'm not around!

LOL!  I say the same wonderful things about my husband! 

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« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2014, 06:24:10 pm »
I didn't see what was so discouraging that it should set off our young "conservative." 

Well, as a libertarian leaning conservative, maybe I'm just obtuse. (At the very least, I have been called politically naïve)

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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #29 on: October 07, 2014, 06:52:47 pm »
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2014/10/07/lena-dunham-my-republican-rapist-hurt-two-other-women

LENA DUNHAM: MY REPUBLICAN RAPIST HURT TWO OTHER WOMEN
by JOHN NOLTE  7 Oct 2014, 5:28 AM PDT

In her just-released memoir "Not That Kind of Girl," Lena Dunham describes her rape at the hands of a "mustachioed campus Republican" named Barry. In the same chapter she alleges that the following semester she learned that after Barry had sex with another girl named Julia, the "wall was spattered with blood … like a crime scene."

The next semester, after Barry is gone, my friend Melody tells me that once her friend Julia woke up the morning after sex with Barry, and the wall was spattered with blood. Spattered, she said, "like a crime scene." But he was nice, and he took her for the morning after pill and named the baby they weren't having.

She also says, "There was a story about him punching a girl in the boobs at a party."
That is two other women hurt by this Barry along with Dunham.

Dunham alleges that Barry's rape left her in enough pain and over a long enough period of time that she had to visit a doctor. The doctor confirmed that Dunham had been injured. "[The sex] must have been pretty rough," was the doctor's conclusion. At the time, Dunham says she didn't tell the doctor or anyone but her  best friend Audrey about the rape.

According to the timeline, Dunham was a 19 year-old student at Ohio's Oberlin College when the alleged rape occurred.  That would place the year of the incident sometime around 2005.

Dunham also claims that the alleged rape occurred on campus property -- a "college-owned apartment" is how she describes the setting.
The statute of limitations for rape in the state of Ohio is 20 years.

Although she has accused Barry of rape and seems to believe he was rough enough on another woman to leave a wall spattered with blood, and although she has only recently come to terms with the fact she was raped, Dunham has given no indication that she plans to go to the authorities.
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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #30 on: October 07, 2014, 08:14:37 pm »
I'm sorry I clicked on this thread; 10 minutes of my life I'll never get back.....................who in hell is Lena Dunham?
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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #31 on: October 08, 2014, 05:36:53 am »
Oh ya, I was trying to be tongue in cheek about it. I know plenty of men who think with their brain and not their nads. You sound like one of them, and those are typically the kind of men I prefer to associate with.
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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #32 on: October 08, 2014, 09:10:33 am »
(in best Gomer Pyle impersonation) Well, golly! *blushes*

Just your luck Jimmy... she said she was leaving...


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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #33 on: October 08, 2014, 09:25:56 am »
Wow. So, apologies if saying men are vehicles of sperm touched on the wrong nerves. There was supposed to be an element of humor.

Hey, if you guys ever wonder why conservatives are having such a tough time reaching out to women, look at these responses, right here. I'm telling you how most women feel: That men are more sex driven, and your responses are very condescending.

Good luck with that whole conservative revival thing.... You just lost a young, conservative, female poster on this site. I'm not seeing too many around here.

Briskirn: If you're this thin skinned, I suggest that in your search you try to find a site that is more sheltered. Apparently you are only looking for people to agree with you.
That's not how it usually works.
Good luck. Let us know how it works out.
Ps: I doubt that you particular views on this subject represents a majority or even a significant minority of young, middle aged or old conservatives.
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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #34 on: October 08, 2014, 09:32:19 am »
Briskin: If you're this thin skinned, I suggest that in your search you try to find a site that is more sheltered. Apparently you are only looking for people to agree with you.
That's not how it usually works.

I think she was just trolling, looking for a reaction and left when it didn't happen.

Geez, I must be gettin old and cynical...


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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #35 on: October 08, 2014, 09:39:21 am »
I'm sorry I clicked on this thread; 10 minutes of my life I'll never get back.....................who in hell is Lena Dunham?

Wow. So, apologies if saying men are vehicles of sperm touched on the wrong nerves. There was supposed to be an element of humor.

LOL..and NEVER take ANYTHING sink says personal.
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« Reply #36 on: October 08, 2014, 09:47:26 am »
LOL..and NEVER take ANYTHING sink says personal.

Exactly.  While she may have been a member for over a year, she obviously hasn't spent much time here...    :silly:


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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #37 on: October 08, 2014, 10:15:47 am »
 "...a member for over a year"

wow. So, she's a veteran ^-^

C'mon back B, there's obviously a lot you need to learn and this board is a good place to start.
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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #38 on: October 08, 2014, 10:35:40 am »
Maybe so, but you could say that someone who says men are 'vehicles of sperm' with an 'element of humor' was looking for a reason to be offended.

And then telling us what a wonderful person we just 'lost' because our comments are 'condescending'?

Oh well...

I agree.

Not that it matters to me. If someone cares to post, then they should learn to deal with the responses.

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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #39 on: October 08, 2014, 09:21:25 pm »
I think she was just trolling, looking for a reaction and left when it didn't happen.

Geez, I must be gettin old and cynical...
Always a possibility, it is Troll season.
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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2014, 08:09:52 pm »
"Maybe she was just trolling." "You've got a lot more to learn." Got it. Yes, not condescending at all.

Mystery-Ak wrote me a personal message on my email account, so I came back to read the replies.

Here's my background: I grew up in poverty in deep East Texas. I put myself through school, eventually earning an RN degree. Life took a few twists and turns, and I became very involved in the legislative processes of regulating healthcare in my area. I used to travel to Austin to attend stakeholder meetings, but I put that behind me about a year ago because I wanted to be back on staff. Currently I'm working in an ER, where I help people with suffering, chronic pain, death and dying on the daily. Today I own my own home, have savings, and am paying for my sister to go to college. So please don't accuse me of being thin skinned, sir.

And yes, I dare say there are many weaknesses in the conservative party. I like the way you put it, Alice, when you said liberals are more likely to think in groups than conservatives. Reagan was outstanding in that he could unite the conservatives, but that's another tangent. When I am not working, I am very involved in the arts and performance scene in Dallas. I perform regularly with a group of women. I went to a very liberal college, and artists tend to be very liberal. Wendy Davis has half the support as Greg Abbott in my state, but on my facebook, 4 times as many people on my friend's list have "liked" her page. As a result, I speak fluent liberal, and I know exactly what they think of conservatives.

In fact, until I was about 24, I was liberal. I was apathetic, and I did not vote. I didn't care to learn much about politics at all. It all changed when I started having those adult, real world experiences that showed the truth to me. I am intimately aware of the mental pathway from bleeding heart liberal to I live in reality conservative.

But what really set off my Irish temper was one word in this thread. And I argue, posters, that there were actually a few posts after, including Mountaineers, that seemed dismissive while I was talking about a subject that is actually important to me. That was when DC Patriot told me I was "overthinking" it.

The term "overthinking" still gets my blood boiling a little bit, to be honest. I went to a party last weekend with a friend, when a strange man approached us and very brazenly asked her to take her top off (We were both wearing flats, jeans, and t shirts, and nothing about our behavior invited  this kind of treatment). I was walking with a man and a woman a few days ago, and his friend made jokes about how he should "go for it" meaning with us. I went to Vegas a few months ago. I only go because my fiancé likes it. In the literal five minutes I was separated from him, a pimp approached me and in utterly creepy manner tried to recruit me.

So yes, it was offensive to me that what has basically been a collection of life experiences for me and worthy of analysis was so easily poo poo'd. I wonder, men on this site, how often, if at all, you have any of the experiences I just listed? I can tell you that I can rattle off many many more....

I do like being a young, attractive woman. There is a lot of power in it. But my friends and I do attract a lot of attention that is frequently unwelcome. Dealing with men is a very important part of our lives, so to hear someone tell me I was "overthinking" it (and a few other posts after), yes, it offended me.

The place where the liberal progressive movement runs circles around conservatives is that it makes minority causes seem like a priority. I know it's a lie. These programs have done nothing to solve poverty, race baiting increases agitation, women are still paid less in the white house, etc. Most people don't look at facts, though, they just want a politician to lend a (fake) sympathetic ear.  Meanwhile, Republicans have been called "The Party of No." No, you can't have that, no, you shouldn't do that, etc etc.

Care to debate me on that, Dan?

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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
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Glad to see ya back....stick with us, we need voices like yours..you are our future...
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« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2014, 08:23:45 pm »
Thank, Mystery. I appreciate the wisdom and experience of those older than me as well, and I only hope that the truth in your message can be conveyed to those who need to hear it.

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Some of us are a little older and set in our ways but it does us good to hear the views of younger generations if we are going to survive.
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« Reply #44 on: October 12, 2014, 08:32:20 pm »
Thank, Mystery. I appreciate the wisdom and experience of those older than me as well, and I only hope that the truth in your message can be conveyed to those who need to hear it.

Yay Briskirn!  I have a feeling you can hold your own here with us!  Glad to hear from you and hope you'll contribute again.

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« Reply #45 on: October 12, 2014, 09:07:49 pm »
The place where the liberal progressive movement runs circles around conservatives is that it makes minority causes seem like a priority. I know it's a lie. These programs have done nothing to solve poverty, race baiting increases agitation, women are still paid less in the white house, etc. Most people don't look at facts, though, they just want a politician to lend a (fake) sympathetic ear.  Meanwhile, Republicans have been called "The Party of No." No, you can't have that, no, you shouldn't do that, etc etc.

Care to debate me on that, Dan?

Try getting your interpretation of reality somewhere other than the msm...


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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #46 on: October 12, 2014, 09:27:01 pm »
msm meaning methylsulfonylmethane? For joints? What are you talking about? Btw there was a lot more post that you are free to comment on.

Again, I'd appreciate if you can flesh out your opinion, even ever so slightly. All I'm getting from you right now is misunderstanding and annoyance.
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« Reply #47 on: October 12, 2014, 09:32:18 pm »
msm meaning methylsulfonylmethane? For joints? What are you talking about? Btw there was a lot more post that you are free to comment on.

Again, I'd appreciate if you can flesh out your opinion, even ever so slightly. All I'm getting from you right now is misunderstanding and annoyance.

MSM = main stream media.  Those who set the terms of the debate, control the outcomes of that debate.

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Re: LENA DUNHAM: I WAS RAPED BY A 'CAMPUS REPUBLICAN'
« Reply #48 on: October 12, 2014, 09:34:51 pm »
Gotcha. I abhor the mainstream media. I don't even watch Fox. I get my news from thedrudgereport, and I read a Spanish newspaper called elpais.com to get another country's persective, and over the past year, I've mostly been reading on this site, not commenting, since a lot of the members here have access to obscure conservative topics.

Any other assumptions you want to make about me?

Btw, I'm conservative, I vote Republican, but I jibe best with Libertarians.
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« Reply #49 on: October 12, 2014, 09:40:58 pm »
Gotcha. I abhor the mainstream media. I don't even watch Fox. I get my news from thedrudgereport, and I read a Spanish newspaper called elpais.com to get another country's persective, and over the past year, I've mostly been reading on this site, not commenting, since a lot of the members here have access to obscure conservative topics.

Any other assumptions you want to make about me?

Btw, I'm conservative, I vote Republican, but I jibe best with Libertarians.

No you didn't.  Your positions mirror those of the msm.  I wasn't assuming anything...

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