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Bothers me a lot...not that I agree with this a-hole but I thought this country had a little thing called free speech...guess not!

He is free to say what he wants.  But, the NBA has a right to protect its brand - and I am sure that is stipulated in his agreements with the league.  The issue for me is that these were private conversations which were brought to light.  I read somewhere that he had given permission to be recorded.  Seems strange.
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Anybody else bothered that private conversations are now fair game for job actions?
That's exactly what offends me about this whole thing. Now we're all subject to losing our businesses, our livelihoods over something said - we thought - in private?

I don't know the particulars of it, but it appears the woman tape-recorded a private conversation without his consent. Some states have laws against such things.
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4 Extremely Rational Quotes Mark Cuban Made About Clippers’ Owner Donald Sterling’s Racist Comments
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Mark Cuban, the outspoken owner of the Dallas Mavericks and an investor on Shark Tank, waited a few days before speaking out about Clippers’ owner Donald Sterling’s racist comments. When he did finally start talking about it, he had a lot to say.

#1 – On his views of Sterling’s comments:

“What Donald said was wrong. It was abhorrent. There’s no place for racism in the NBA, any business I’m associated with, and I don’t want to be associated with people who have that position.”
 
#2 – On whether/how the NBA should respond:

“I think you’ve got to be very, very careful when you start making blanket statements about what people say and think, as opposed to what they do. It’s a very, very slippery slope.”
 
#3 – On suggestions that the NBA should ban Sterling from the league:

“If it’s about racism and we’re ready to kick people out of the league, OK? Then what about homophobia? What about somebody who doesn’t like a particular religion? What about somebody who’s anti-Semitic? What about a xenophobe?”
 
#4 – On what it all boils down to:

“In this country, people are allowed to be morons.”
 
Cuban’s quotes came as many other owners and coaches were calling for the NBA to force Sterling to step down.

While Sterling’s comments were certainly racist and just plain wrong, Cuban made a fantastic point that kicking someone out of the NBA for an opinion they voiced is a “slippery slope” that could quickly expand to comments about gay marriage, religion, etc.
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Political Correctness is the real scourge that is eating away at our society.

Not a day passes where my hatred for Libtards doesn't increase in leaps and bounds.

It's just a shame that people are so totally bent out of shape over some old geezers idiotic comments, yet not a damned thing that the Obama Regime is doing gets any reaction.

People best pull their heads out of their asses.
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Bothers me a lot...not that I agree with this a-hole but I thought this country had a little thing called free speech...guess not!
Free speech is not free, especially to billionaires.
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Anybody else bothered that private conversations are now fair game for job actions?

Meanwhile, the carjackers-in-waiting jump in the stands attacking fans and beating up their wives and are lauded.

Who in the NBA ISN'T a criminal?

Yes it bothers me a lot.

The thing about this deal in particular, is that rather than owning a stand-alone business that should (in theory) be free to rise or fall based on the marketplace's reaction to the owner (even if I don't particularly like the way his private thoughts were publicized, they did nonetheless), he owns a team that is part of a league that operates in a coordinated manner to some key degrees.  Therefore, he is subject to the directives and dictates of the League as represented by the Commissioner.

And yes, it is a league of criminals playing to entertain criminals, to a large degree.

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Free speech is not free, especially to billionaires.

I see that!
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4 Extremely Rational Quotes Mark Cuban Made About Clippers’ Owner Donald Sterling’s Racist Comments
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While Sterling’s comments were certainly racist and just plain wrong, Cuban made a fantastic point that kicking someone out of the NBA for an opinion they voiced is a “slippery slope” that could quickly expand to comments about gay marriage, religion, etc.

Yes, and while this action has been taken by a private entity (the NBA), with the kind of gubmint we have now, it is chilling.  Are you too outspoken about the right to life, maybe the IRS starts to come down hard (including SWAT raids) on your CPA practice and maybe even your clients.  Seen at too many Tea Party and/or Liberty meetings in the area, maybe OSHA and EPA need to start "inspecting" your company workshop, say once or twice a week....

I don't like the tenor of what I hear from our society as a whole on this whole issue.....  I have been flabbergasted at the number of people I hear calling sports talk shows that want the gubmint to seize his property as "punishment."  Not a good course, in my mind....    :shrug:

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http://www.newsmax.com/NewsmaxTv/Rick-Santorum-Donald-Sterling-deserved-racially/2014/04/29/id/568489/

by Bill Hoffmann
April 29, 2014

Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling "got what he deserved" with a lifetime ban and $2.5 million fine from the National Basketball Association for his racially tinged remarks about blacks, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum says.

The more I learn about this character, the more I question why wasn't this done a long time ago," Santorum told "The Steve Malzberg Show" on Newsmax TV.

"This is nothing new in this guy's playbook, and obviously it's now out there in the public," he said Tuesday.

The NBA meted out the stiff punishment Tuesday after reviewing a taped phone conversation in which Sterling admonishes his girlfriend not to bring black people to Clippers games.

It also emerged this week that Sterling, a billionaire businessman, has had past issues with black people.

"I'm glad they reacted the way they did, it was appropriate," said Santorum, who is now CEO of EchoLight Studios, which produces PG-rated, family-friendly movies.

"[Sterling] certainly got what he deserved, and probably deserved for a while."

(excerpt, video and further transcript of interview at link above)
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Political Correctness is the real scourge that is eating away at our society.

Not a day passes where my hatred for Libtards doesn't increase in leaps and bounds.

It's just a shame that people are so totally bent out of shape over some old geezers idiotic comments, yet not a damned thing that the Obama Regime is doing gets any reaction.

People best pull their heads out of their asses.

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That's really good - it shows the absurdity of the whole stupid issue!   :laughingdog: 

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Free speech is not free, especially to billionaires.

Whoa... this has absolutely nothing to do with free speech.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

There has been no action by Congress here for one, and two, free speech doesn't mean free from the possible consequences of exercising your right to speak freely.

He was free to say what he said and retains the freedom to continue saying it.
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The point of the this whole story is that strange women equal trouble. And the more you have to lose, the more you should stay away from them.
 
{Women plus money} = trouble.
 
proof {1 + 1 = 2}
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I understand part of the animosity between Sterling and the woman is that he gave her gifts valued at over $1.4 million.

The ex-wife demanded 50% of that $1.4...that were part of assets targeted in the divorce.

If $2.5 million in a fine is equivalent to $51.00 to him (based upon $1.9 Billion worth)....then shame on him.

He should have just written another check for "$23.00" to avoid all this.

LOL!
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First, the mistress committed a crime for illegally taping a conversation without a party consent. California's wiretapping law is a "two-party consent" law. California makes it a crime to record or eavesdrop on any confidential communication, including a private conversation or telephone call, without the consent of all parties to the conversation. See Cal. Penal Code § 632. I would think that Mr. Sterling should consider legal action against his mistress over the taping of the conversation. But he decides to take that route, he should prepare himself for a lot of "pillowtalk" between him and his mistress splattered in court. Secondly, The NBA went way too far in this time. I would expect a investigation before an punishment to be given out. Mr. Sterling has not given the NBA his side of the story.


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WSJ Editor: NAACP Backed Sterling When He ‘Lined Their Own Pockets’
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WSJ Editor: NAACP Backed Sterling When He ‘Lined Their Own Pockets’
by Noah Rothman | 3:14 pm, April 29th, 2014

Jason Riley, the Wall Street Journal’s Political Diary editor, does not find the NAACP’s reaction to the controversy surrounding racist remarks made by Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling to be particularly genuine. Riley noted that the NAACP gave Sterling a lifetime achievement award and was prepared to give him a second so long as they benefited financially from their association with him. Riley noted that this “pattern of behavior” from groups like the NAACP and MSNBC host and activist Rev. Al Sharpton.

“I don’t think that these comments are as surprising as the NAACP is pretending they are,” Riley began. “This man has a long history of paying to make lawsuits – anti-discrimination lawsuits – go away, and this has to deal with his non-basketball activities.”

RELATED: NAACP Head: Sterling Will Not Receive Lifetime Achievement Award

“The NAACP knows about this history, and yet gave him a lifetime achievement award and was about to give him a second one,” the WSJ editor continued.

“This is another example of how the civil rights movement has become an industry,” Riley added. “You have groups like the NAACP, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, others who basically go around the country shaking down corporations and individuals for money.”

“This guy gave them money,” Reilly said of Sterling, “and that’s what’s most important to them.”

He said that the organizations and individuals he named care more about “lining their own pockets” than aiding the minority community. He cited these groups opposition to charter schools and the expansion of Wal-Mart stores while taking funds from labor and teachers unions. “So, there is a pattern here,” Riley asserted.

Riley closed by saying that President Barack Obama’s comments on the Sterling controvery were fine, but that the president is not supportive of “racial unity.”

“When you pal around with Al Sharpton, you are not into racial unity,” he concluded.

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NBA Legend Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Rips BOTH SIDES in Donald Sterling ‘Scandal’

by Top Right News on April 29, 2014

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The NBA players, media, and grievance mongers such as Al Sharpton are up in arms over vile L.A. Clippers owner Donald Sterling’s alleged racist remarks. But NBA legend Kareem Abdul-Jabbar today said a pox on both your houses – calling out the hypocrisy behind the whole affair and presenting by far the most rounded  – and surprisingly libertarian — view thus far.

Abdul-Jabbar, in an op-ed piece in TIME attacked the collective outrage emanating from America’s media over Sterling’s aremarks to his girlfriend, calling the publication of a private conversation “sleazy” and wondering why earlier, more public manifestations of racism failed to shock those such as Al Sharpton, and the NAACP.

Abdul-Jabbar explains that we’re witnessing a veritable “finger-wagging Olympics . . . all over the latest in a long line of rich white celebrities to come out of the racist closet.”

“Yes, I’m angry, too,” Abdul-Jabbar admits, “but not just about the sins of Donald Sterling. I’ve got a list.”

That list includes Sterling’s girlfriend, V. Stiviano, whose voice is heard on the racially-loaded tape and who likely set the Clippers’ owner up.

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“Man, what a winding road she led him down to get all of that out,” he mocked. “She was like a sexy nanny playing ‘pin the fried chicken on the Sambo.’ She blindfolded him and spun him around until he was just blathering all sorts of incoherent racist sound bites that had the news media peeing themselves with glee.”

And speaking of the news media? “They caught big game on a slow news day,” Abdul-Jabbar explained, “so they put his head on a pike, dubbed him Lord of the Flies, and danced around him whooping.”

The former NBA all-star, who played for the Milwaukee Bucks and L.A. Lakers from 1969 to 1989, has no sympathy for Sterling. But he is upset that everyone is acting so surprised, noting that the NBA owner has said offensive comments in the past and has been sued over both housing and employment discrimination.

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The NAACP “did nothing” after Sterling was forced to pay a staggering $3 million fine for denying housing to Blacks, saying they “smell, and attract vermin,” Abdul-Jabbar noted. They were even going to present Sterling with an NAACP award on May 15th, with the Rev. Al Sharpton on hand. “Suddenly he says he doesn’t want his girlfriend posing with Magic Johnson on Instagram and we bring out the torches and rope. Shouldn’t we have all called for his resignation back then?”

Abdul-Jabbar is correct, but it is worse than that. The NAACP accepted multiple grants from the Donald T. Sterling Charitable Foundation and handed Sterling several “image awards” — despite full knowledge of his prior, massive fine for discrimination against Blacks in his slumlord housing.

Abdul-Jabbar, perhaps channeling his closet libertarianism, also blasted the fact that Sterling’s private conversation — however racist — was suddenly broadcast nationwide.

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“Didn’t we just call to task the NSA for intruding into American citizen’s privacy in such an un-American way?” he asked, comparing the secret tape-recording to Mitt Romney’s embarrassing 47 percent remark, recorded without the then-candidate’s knowledge.

“The making and release of this tape is so sleazy that just listening to it makes me feel like an accomplice to the crime,” Abdul-Jabbar fumed. “We didn’t steal the cake but we’re all gorging ourselves on it.”

“So, if we’re all going to be outraged,” the former NBA star wrapped up, “let’s be outraged that we weren’t more outraged when his racism was first evident. Let’s be outraged that private conversations between people in an intimate relationship are recorded and publicly played. Let’s be outraged that whoever did the betraying will probably get a book deal, a sitcom, trade recipes with Hoda and Kathie Lee, and soon appear on ‘Celebrity Apprentice’ and ‘Dancing with the Stars.’”

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UCLA Returns Clippers' Owner's $3 Million for Kidney Research
« Reply #70 on: April 30, 2014, 01:24:54 pm »
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by Joel B. Pollak 30 Apr 2014, 6:00 AM PDT


UCLA announced Tuesday that it would reject a $3 million donation by Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling, and would return the portion of that donation that had already been delivered, local CBS news affiliate KNX reports. The announcement is the latest public repudiation of Sterling after his privately expressed racist comments were recorded and exposed, and comes as the NBA prepares to force Sterling to sell his team.

NBA commissioner Adam Silver announced Tuesday that Silver would be banned for life from any association with the league or his franchise. That decision satisfied many fans, but the public rejection of Sterling has only just begun. The Los Angeles City Council, for example, unanimously passed a resolution urging local news outlets to reject advertising for Sterling's businesses, and expressed the city's outrage at his remarks.

UCLA's decision to reject Sterling's donation may have helped it avoid public relations problems, as Sterling had previously placed ads touting the donation and claiming a laboratory was being named for him. "Mr. Sterling’s divisive and hurtful comments demonstrate that he does not share UCLA’s core values as a public university that fosters diversity, inclusion and respect," UCLA said in a statement reported by Yahoo! Sports.

There is a precedent for universities returning donations from figures with extreme views. Harvard, for example, returned $2.5 million for Islamic studies from the president of the United Arab Emirates in 2004 after a student pointed out his ties to a think tank that promoted anti-American and antisemitic views. However, the cost to research at UCLA is significant, and many patients might have benefited from treatments that resulted.
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Re: UCLA Returns Clippers' Owner's $3 Million for Kidney Research
« Reply #71 on: April 30, 2014, 01:33:33 pm »
Well now that is just dumb...what does kidney research have to do with all this?  Keep his money and do some good with it.  We are just getting nutty about jumping on bandwagons.
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Re: UCLA Returns Clippers' Owner's $3 Million for Kidney Research
« Reply #73 on: April 30, 2014, 02:28:34 pm »
Well now that is just dumb...what does kidney research have to do with all this?  Keep his money and do some good with it.  We are just getting nutty about jumping on bandwagons.

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Re: UCLA Returns Clippers' Owner's $3 Million for Kidney Research
« Reply #74 on: April 30, 2014, 02:49:48 pm »
Gee, I hope no one dies unnecessarily as a result of this fit of pique.
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"The more I learn about this character, the more I question why wasn't this done a long time ago," Santorum told "The Steve Malzberg Show" on Newsmax TV.
We're certainly learning a lot more about Santorum's character lately, given all these pathetic efforts to get his name in print every day.
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We're certainly learning a lot more about Santorum's character lately, given all these pathetic efforts to get his name in print every day.

There were always something slightly "off" about Santorum. Never could put my finger on it, but it was there, like a missing tooth.
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Re: Oprah Winfrey speaks out on Donald Sterling
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April 30, 2014 | 12:17pm

Media empress Oprah Winfrey may get into yet another game: NBA ownership.

According to ESPN, Winfrey is considering teaming with David Geffen and Larry Ellison for a bid to buy the Los Angeles Clippers from Donald Sterling, who is facing massive pressure to sell the franchise as part of sanctions stemming from his infamous racist rant.

Sterling is heard on an audio recording scolding his girlfriend, V. Stiviano, for posting Instagram photos of herself with black acquaintances and for bringing them to Clippers games.

Winfrey was outspoken in criticism, saying Sterling’s comments were indicative of a “plantation mentality,” though on Tuesday she had said, “I won’t be buying the Clippers.”

NBA commissioner Adam Silver said Tuesday: “I fully expect to get the support I need from the other NBA owners to remove him.”

Geffen and software billionaire Ellison were previously tipped as candidates to purchase the Clippers in bidding that may tick toward $800 million. Lakers great Magic Johnson, with financial backer Guggenheim Partners, also is considered a front-runner.

The Clippers rank as the 13th most valuable team in the league, according to Forbes, at an estimated $575 million. But the team likely would sell for millions more, on the promise of a rich new cable TV contract. A sports investment banker told The Post’s Josh Kosman the Clippers could sell for as much as as the Nets, valued at $780 million.
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Oprah considering Clippers bid
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Oprah considering Clippers bid
Updated: April 30, 2014, 2:26 PM ET

Oprah Winfrey, David Geffen and Larry Ellison will join together in a bid to buy the Los Angeles Clippers if the NBA's board of governors votes to force Donald Sterling to sell the team, Geffen told ESPN's Jeremy Schaap on Wednesday.

Geffen said he and Ellison would run the team, while Winfrey would be an investor.

"Oprah is not interested in running the team," Geffen told Schaap. "She thinks it would be a great thing for an important black American to own [another] franchise.

"The team deserves a better group of owners who want to win. Larry would sooner die than fail. I would sooner die than fail. Larry's a sportsman. We've talked about this for a long time. Between the three of us, we have a good shot."

Winfrey's spokesperson, Nicole Nichols, issued a statement later Wednesday, confirming Geffen's claim.

"Oprah Winfrey is in discussions with David Geffen and Larry Ellison to make a bid for the Los Angeles Clippers should the team become available," Nichols said in the statement.

Geffen, a music and film mogul with a net worth that Forbes estimates at $6.2 billion, reportedly tried to buy at least a controlling stake in the Clippers in 2010 for $600 million but was rebuffed by Sterling.

Geffen also told Schaap that LeBron James was interested in playing in Los Angeles when he was a free agent in 2010 and that James, who ultimately signed with the Miami Heat, told him he would not play for Sterling.

"[The] reasons are perfectly clear," said Geffen, would not specifically disclose why James didn't want to play for Sterling.

"I'm a fan. I bring something to the table, it's fun and I can afford it," Geffen said. "I live in L.A., that's one thing that makes it attractive."

Geffen said he and Ellison, the CEO of Oracle, a business software and technology company, were also interested in buying the Los Angeles Lakers, but the team wasn't for sale.

NBA commissioner Adam Silver wants Sterling to sell the Clippers as part of the extremely stiff sanctions brought against the longtime owner in response to racist comments the league determined he made in a recorded conversation.

Silver banned Sterling for life, fined him $2.5 million and said he will press the other teams to support his desire to make Sterling sell.

"I fully expect to get the support I need from the other NBA owners to remove him," Silver said.

Silver was asked Tuesday whether the league was considering more minority ownership in response to the sanctions against Sterling.

"As you know, we have an African-American primary owner in the league right now," Silver said. "Shaquille O'Neal just became a small owner of the Sacramento Kings. David Robinson is an owner of the San Antonio Spurs. Vivek Ranadive, a person of color born in Mumbai, India, just became the primary owner of the Sacramento Kings. So I believe we have a very diverse league, but I'd always like to see it become more diverse."

Boxing superstar Floyd Mayweather Jr. and music mogul Sean Combs both claimed interest in buying the team Tuesday, as did real-estate tycoon Rick Caruso.

Magic Johnson, Mark Walter and their Guggenheim Partners group, which made the billion-dollar purchase of the Los Angeles Dodgers in 2012, also are possible bidders, though sources have told ESPN that any such discussions were premature at best.

Johnson, who was specifically mentioned in the recorded conversation involving Sterling, laughed off the suggestion he should buy the Clippers in an appearance on ESPN on Sunday night, saying he was focused on bringing the NFL back to Los Angeles.
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Re: Oprah Winfrey speaks out on Donald Sterling
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"As you know, we have an African-American primary owner in the league right now," Silver said. "Shaquille O'Neal just became a small owner of the Sacramento Kings. David Robinson is an owner of the San Antonio Spurs. Vivek Ranadive, a person of color born in Mumbai, India, just became the primary owner of the Sacramento Kings. So I believe we have a very diverse league, but I'd always like to see it become more diverse."

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Jesse Jackson Shows Up on Court Before Clippers-Warriors Game
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Jesse Jackson Shows Up on Court Before Clippers-Warriors Game
"We have a high tolerance for racism."
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As the fallout continued regarding the NBA’s decision to ban Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling for life based on racist comments made in private and leaked on tape, Jesse Jackson showed up on court before Game 5 of the first round of the playoffs between the Los Angeles Clippers and the Golden State Warriors on Tuesday night.

Earlier in the day, race-baiter extraordinaire Jackson appeared at the Milken Institute’s Global Conference in Beverly Hills, where he stated that Sterling’s comments showed “why we need affirmative action. People in high places have no will toward goodness unless the law is there to force it.” Jackson continued by stating that Sterling “should apologize, he should resign and he should sell the team. We have a high tolerance for racism. His past is very well known. It took this over-the-hill statement…to get to this point.”

In 2008, Jackson was caught on tape stating that he would like to “cut off [President Obama’s] nuts” for “talking down to black people…telling n****** how to behave.”  In the 1980s, Jackson referred to New York City as “Hymietown.” He called Ward Connerly of the California Board of Regents a “house slave” and “puppet of the white man,” and according to James Mtume, stated in 2008 that Barack Obama was a “half-breed n*****.”

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Re: Jesse Jackson Shows Up on Court Before Clippers-Warriors Game
« Reply #81 on: April 30, 2014, 05:10:04 pm »
Jesse Jackson Shows Up on Court Before Clippers-Warriors Game

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Re: Jesse Jackson Shows Up on Court Before Clippers-Warriors Game
« Reply #82 on: May 01, 2014, 08:16:23 am »
What was it Carville said about dragging a dollar bill through a trailer court? That pretty much describes Jesse and the other race-baiting poverty pimps.
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Re: Oprah Winfrey speaks out on Donald Sterling
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Oprah Winfrey joins Floyd Mayweather in bid to buy Los Angeles Clippers
By Mike Dawes
Published: 05:10 EST, 1 May 2014  | Updated: 06:50 EST, 1 May 2014


American talk show host Oprah Winfrey has added her name to the list of stars looking to buy the Los Angeles Clippers.

After Clippers owner Donald Sterling was banned for life by NBA commissioner Adam Silver, a number of people have expressed an interest in the franchise including Floyd Mayweather, Oscar De La Hoya and Magic Johnson.

But now Oprah has joined David Geffen and Larry Ellison and formed a consortium to take over the NBA team.  The three billionaires have a combined wealth of $60 billion (£35.54b).

Television entrepreneur Winfrey, is joining forces with the world's fifth richest man, Ellison and entertainment mogul Geffen to pry the franchise from Sterling's grip - after he revealed he would not sell the team he bought for $12 million (£7.1m) in 1982.

Mayweather, meanwhile, wants to put the $40 million which is his guaranteed minimum for Saturday night’s fight towards cost to purchase the Clippers.

However, despite the celebrity billionaire interest, Sterling is refusing to sell his team - signaling a lengthy and costly legal battle with the NBA.

NBA commissioner Silver has told Sterling that he wants him to sell the Clippers as part of the extreme sanctions brought against the owner in response to racist comments he was recorded making by a former girlfriend.

'I fully expect to get the support I need from the other NBA owners to remove him,' Silver said.

The NBA on Tuesday banned Sterling from the game for life and fined him $2.5 million for racist comments that drew a storm of outrage from players, fans and commercial sponsors.


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Clippers Owner Sterling: 'I Am Not Selling the Team'
« Reply #84 on: May 01, 2014, 08:36:33 am »
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Wednesday, April 30, 2014 03:50 PM

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Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling told Fox News on Wednesday that he is not selling the team, despite his banishment from the NBA for making racist remarks.

Sterling, who was banned for life and fined $1.5 million, told Fox Sports broadcaster Jim Gray on Tuesday before he was penalized by the league that he would not sell the team.

His position did not change on Wednesday.

"I am not selling the team," Gray quoted Sterling as saying.


Some NBA owners on Wednesday said they expect the league likely will vote to force Sterling to sell the Clippers, which he bought in 1981 for $12.5 million.

But The Los Angeles Times on Wednesday reported that Sterling could opt to challenge the NBA, setting up what could be a protracted legal battle.

"If he truly doesn't want to sell, I'm going to guess he could tie this up for the rest of his life," Richard Sheehan, author of "Keeping Score: The Economics of Big-Time Sports" told The Times. "It would be an absolute disaster."

As it appeared more likely the team would be put up for sale, talk show host turned media businesswoman Oprah Winfrey emerged among potential buyers who have expressed interest. She said she was in discussions with producer and film studio executive David Geffen and Oracle Corp computer technology Chief Executive Officer Larry Ellison to bid for the team if it becomes available.

NBA Commissioner Adam Silver, who also announced a $2.5 million fine on Sterling on Tuesday, asked the league's governing board of fellow owners to act immediately to force Sterling to sell the club he bought 33 years ago.

Although no firm date for the vote was given by the NBA, early indications were that owners would overwhelmingly support the unprecedented move.

"We run a color blind league and this should not be tolerated," Sacramento Kings owner Vivek Ranadive told ESPN Radio. "The only thing we care about is do you have game.

"I would be surprised if this was not a unanimous vote. The owners are amazing people, they are color blind and I fully expect a unanimous vote."

Under the NBA's own bylaws, it is up to the league's owners to decide whether to force the sale of the Clippers franchise.

At least three-quarters of the owners would have to support the move but sports business experts said Sterling's peers might be leery of action they felt could jeopardize their own property rights in the future.

According to NBA bylaws, Silver must provide a written copy of any charges within three days to Sterling, who has five days to answer. A special hearing of the Board of Governors then will be held on a date no more than 10 days after Sterling's reply.

The board's advisory finance committee has a meeting scheduled on Thursday to go over the next steps in removing Sterling as owner of the Clippers, a spokesman for the NBA said.

Glen Taylor, the owner of the Minnesota Timberwolves and interim chair of the NBA Board of Governors, said the ideal course of action would be if Sterling just agreed to a sale.

"The problems would occur if he decides that he doesn't want to sell the team and we think that it should be sold," Taylor told the St. Paul Pioneer Press. "Then we have to make sure that we got the votes and then enforce that."

Taylor said he had not spoken to all of the owners, but said he was "reasonably sure" there was enough support for a forced sale and he expected there would be potential buyers.

Earvin "Magic" Johnson, the former basketball star who is a part owner of the Los Angeles Dodgers baseball team and who once had a stake in the Los Angeles Lakers, has been mentioned as a possible suitor for the Clippers. On Monday, the day before commissioner Silver's announcement, Johnson had tweeted that "I want to put a stop to a rumor. I am not trying to buy the Clippers, they already have an owner."

One of boxing' s biggest names, five-division world champion Floyd Mayweather Jr., expressed interest in comments to reporters in Las Vegas.

Clippers owner Sterling was forced out of basketball on Tuesday after two websites released audio recordings of him criticizing a woman friend for "associating with black people." The woman heard on the recordings at the heart of the scandal is said to be a 31-year-old Los Angeles model who goes by the name V. Stiviano.

The recordings drew outrage from players, fans, politicians and commercial sponsors, several of whom said they were cutting ties with the team, even after the NBA moved to expel Sterling.

The scandal quickly grew into a national discussion of race relations transcending basketball.

Sterling has not yet commented on the sanctions against him and it was not immediately clear whether he would seek to challenge the ban in court. Sterling did not respond to requests for comment from Reuters.

But lawyers with expertise in sports law gave him little chance of successfully suing the NBA, citing league governance rules that all owners must accept.


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Re: Clippers Owner Sterling: 'I Am Not Selling the Team'
« Reply #85 on: May 01, 2014, 11:53:30 am »
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Re: Clippers Owner Sterling: 'I Am Not Selling the Team'
« Reply #86 on: May 01, 2014, 12:26:32 pm »
Translation... start the bidding process.
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Re: Clippers Owner Sterling: 'I Am Not Selling the Team'
« Reply #87 on: May 01, 2014, 01:02:31 pm »
The profit between $12 million he paid, and today's market value of perhaps 1 billion, triggers an immense amount of taxable capital gain.

If instead he died, and the property went to his heirs, there would be no tax for that transfer.

Maybe his heirs should sue the league and owners for the taxes, for depriving them of their inheritance, since that is what in effect they are doing.

Or maybe Sterling can "sell" the asset to a trust, for the remainder of his lifetime, to avoid the tax on disposition.

Or maybe biz wiz Magic has a way to just make the tax go away. Or maybe our first black President can issue an Executive Order to his IRS, to waive the taxes on such a taxable event.

Pull out all the stops. OTOH upon careful consideration, perhaps other owners will consider the ramifications, and oppose forcing a sale. It only takes 26% of owner votes to block it.

 
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Re: Clippers Owner Sterling: 'I Am Not Selling the Team'
« Reply #88 on: May 01, 2014, 01:26:58 pm »
The profit between $12 million he paid, and today's market value of perhaps 1 billion, triggers an immense amount of taxable capital gain.

If instead he died, and the property went to his heirs, there would be no tax for that transfer.

Maybe his heirs should sue the league and owners for the taxes, for depriving them of their inheritance, since that is what in effect they are doing.

Or maybe Sterling can "sell" the asset to a trust, for the remainder of his lifetime, to avoid the tax on disposition.

Or maybe biz wiz Magic has a way to just make the tax go away. Or maybe our first black President can issue an Executive Order to his IRS, to waive the taxes on such a taxable event.

Pull out all the stops. OTOH upon careful consideration, perhaps other owners will consider the ramifications, and oppose forcing a sale. It only takes 26% of owner votes to block it.

 


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Re: Clippers Owner Sterling: 'I Am Not Selling the Team'
« Reply #89 on: May 01, 2014, 08:05:13 pm »
I think that he should stand his ground. Tie up the entire situation for years in court. He has the money to do this. By the way, he should investigate the other owners for any racist statements they have made in the past and sue his mistress for illegally taping him court.
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Re: Clippers Owner Sterling: 'I Am Not Selling the Team'
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LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling, newly banned from basketball over racist comments attributed to him, has been battling prostate cancer, sports network ESPN and other media reported on Thursday.

The reports come after the National Basketball Association launched a bid on Thursday to oust the 80-year-old as owner of the franchise, as urged by league Commissioner Adam Silver.

ESPN, citing unnamed sources, reported that Sterling has cancer. The New York Post, which first reported the news, also cited unnamed sources as saying Sterling has been battling prostate cancer for an extended period of time.

Reuters could not independently confirm these reports. Officials for the Clippers and the NBA did not immediately return requests for comment.

Silver on Tuesday declared Sterling banned from the NBA for life, fined him $2.5 million - the league maximum - and called on the 29 other club owners who make up the governing board to exercise their authority to force Sterling to sell the Clippers.

The scandal has angered fans and players, and numerous commercial sponsors have pulled their support from the team, before and after the NBA moved to expel Sterling.

Sterling was banned from any further ties with his team or professional basketball, and stripped of his seat on the NBA governing board, days after two websites released audio recordings in which a voice said to be Sterling's is heard criticizing a female friend for "associating with black people".

Silver said Tuesday that Sterling has acknowledged to the NBA that the recording was authentic but did not apologize.
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Re: Clippers Owner Sterling: 'I Am Not Selling the Team'
« Reply #91 on: May 02, 2014, 08:59:43 am »
I wonder if he also had the good sense to dump that girlfriend who set him up?  I have to admit I kind of feel sorry for the guy.  He's a pathetic, racist extremely insecure dinosaur who was easy pickings for the race-exploitation industrial complex.
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Re: Clippers Owner Sterling: 'I Am Not Selling the Team'
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LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling, newly banned from basketball over racist comments attributed to him, has been battling prostate cancer, sports network ESPN and other media reported on Thursday.

The reports come after the National Basketball Association launched a bid on Thursday to oust the 80-year-old as owner of the franchise, as urged by league Commissioner Adam Silver.

ESPN, citing unnamed sources, reported that Sterling has cancer. The New York Post, which first reported the news, also cited unnamed sources as saying Sterling has been battling prostate cancer for an extended period of time.

Reuters could not independently confirm these reports. Officials for the Clippers and the NBA did not immediately return requests for comment.

Silver on Tuesday declared Sterling banned from the NBA for life, fined him $2.5 million - the league maximum - and called on the 29 other club owners who make up the governing board to exercise their authority to force Sterling to sell the Clippers.

The scandal has angered fans and players, and numerous commercial sponsors have pulled their support from the team, before and after the NBA moved to expel Sterling.

Sterling was banned from any further ties with his team or professional basketball, and stripped of his seat on the NBA governing board, days after two websites released audio recordings in which a voice said to be Sterling's is heard criticizing a female friend for "associating with black people".

Silver said Tuesday that Sterling has acknowledged to the NBA that the recording was authentic but did not apologize.

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Re: Clippers Owner Sterling: 'I Am Not Selling the Team'
« Reply #93 on: May 02, 2014, 06:13:52 pm »
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling, newly banned from basketball over racist comments attributed to him, has been battling prostate cancer, sports network ESPN and other media reported on Thursday.
There's an old saying: you don't die of prostate cancer in most cases. You die with prostate cancer.
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« Reply #94 on: May 02, 2014, 07:37:08 pm »
I wonder if he also had the good sense to dump that girlfriend who set him up?  I have to admit I kind of feel sorry for the guy.  He's a pathetic, racist extremely insecure dinosaur who was easy pickings for the race-exploitation industrial complex.

I would take his lover sent her to court and sue the living day lights. I would also ask the District Attorney for proceedings against her.
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« Reply #95 on: May 02, 2014, 07:58:06 pm »
There's an old saying: you don't die of prostate cancer in most cases. You die with prostate cancer.

Unless you are 81.  He has probably had it for many years and now it is late stage and metastasized.

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« Reply #96 on: May 03, 2014, 09:11:48 am »
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Sorry I overlooked the link.  I got it off Yahoo News, but it's a Reuters story.
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« Reply #97 on: May 03, 2014, 11:27:27 am »
Sorry I overlooked the link.  I got it off Yahoo News, but it's a Reuters story.
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http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Sports/2014/05/04/L-A-Mayor-Says-Sterling-Will-Not-Relinquish-Team-Easily-Doesn-t-Rule-Out-Boycotts

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Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti said that after speaking to Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling, he believes that Sterling will not give up his team easily even if the NBA attempts to force him to sell his team.

"I think that he thinks that he's going to be the owner for a long time, that he wants to stay the owner. And I said, 'This will be a long, protracted fight and a painful thing for our city that is a great city, great American city,'" Garcetti said on CBS' "Face the Nation."

He also said that he would not rule out calling for a boycott of Clippers games if Sterling is still the owner.

"I would certainly keep that arrow in the quiver," he said.

Sterling spoke to Jim Gray before NBA Commissioner Adam Silver banned him for life from the league after an audio recording of Sterling was released in which he said he did not want V. Stiviano to bring "black people" to his games. Sterling reportedly told him he would never sell the team. He also spoke to Jason Binn of DuJour magazine and said, purportedly V. Stiviano, I wish I had  just paid her off."

Garcetti said he urged Sterling to apologize for his comments but indicated that Sterling "believes in his heart" that he is a "very good person."

The NBA announced that it would appoint a CEO to supervise the Clippers and NBA players have suggested that they may boycott games at the start of next season if Sterling still owns the Clippers. 

"We're a great sports town. I mean, we have two basketball teams, but we're certainly feeling like one team these days, all behind the Clippers. And we want to see a representation of our city in the best light, not one individual who would besmirch who we are," he said.

The Clippers beat the Golden State Warriors in Game 7 of their first-round series on Saturday to advance in the playoffs to face the Oklahoma City Thunder.
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