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Trump prods American cattle ranchers to 'get their prices down' amid tariff battle

Trump said his tariffs are "the only reason they are doing so well."
ByChristopher Watson
October 22, 2025, 3:23 PM

President Donald Trump said in a social media post Wednesday that American cattle ranchers "have to get their prices down," and that the tariffs he's enacted are "the only reason they are doing so well, for the first time in decades."

"The Cattle Ranchers, who I love, don’t understand that the only reason they are doing so well, for the first time in decades, is because I put Tariffs on cattle coming into the United States, including a 50% Tariff on Brazil," Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform.

"If it weren’t for me, they would be doing just as they’ve done for the past 20 years — Terrible!" the post continued, adding "It would be nice if they would understand that, but they also have to get their prices down, because the consumer is a very big factor in my thinking, also!"

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Trump knows absolutely nothing about the cattle ranching business. And why are we importing Argentinian beef again?  I wonder what John Dutton would say about that?
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Trump prods American cattle ranchers to 'get their prices down' amid tariff battle

Ranchers use their cattle prods to get 47 to undue all the Obama/Biden era regulations that forced them to raise prices.
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It takes time for a baby cow to grow into a McDonald's Big Mac.  Less time to become veal.

Again, what are the Congressional Republicans doing on the deregulation side to make it easier for American capitalism to work again?

Supply side econonomics and deregulation would go a long way towards solving America's structural inflation issues caused by Big Government.


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Tumpy's a dumbass.

The high cost of beef is directly related to the sell-off of the American herd during the drought that hit the southwest.

Because there is a dearth, demand raises prices. It's how it works.
But the high value is also what encourages ranchers to invest and build back herd.

Resetting averages which dictate the price will take approximately two generations, maybe three. Since the average generation in processing is about 2 to 3 years (the time from birth to slaughter), it will take 4 to 6 years before cattle prices stabilize.

Add to that the absurd increase in feed (about 3x pre-covid) - Hay remains expensive too, even though a fairly good harvest, because demand remains high, as ranchers build their stockpiles. Until feed and hay comes down, the cost of raising a beef will stay high. And therefore, also effects the price.

Unlike chickens, it's gonna take a while. And the cattlemen have little to do with it.


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Tumpy's a dumbass.

The high cost of beef is directly related to the sell-off of the American herd during the drought that hit the southwest.

Because there is a dearth, demand raises prices. It's how it works.
But the high value is also what encourages ranchers to invest and build back herd.

Resetting averages which dictate the price will take approximately two generations, maybe three. Since the average generation in processing is about 2 to 3 years (the time from birth to slaughter), it will take 4 to 6 years before cattle prices stabilize.

Add to that the absurd increase in feed (about 3x pre-covid) - Hay remains expensive too, even though a fairly good harvest, because demand remains high, as ranchers build their stockpiles. Until feed and hay comes down, the cost of raising a beef will stay high. And therefore, also effects the price.

Unlike chickens, it's gonna take a while. And the cattlemen have little to do with it.



Everything you say is true. I dabbled in cattle a while back. Too many variables.  And way too much work. I just lease my acreage now and let someone else have the headache, lol.  But most people don't understand the work that goes into their hamburger. It's at the grocery store in a package...what's the problem? I appreciate anyone that stays in the business.

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Wait...I thought everyone just knew that it was the greedy grocery stores.... *****rollingeyes*****

Many no doubt still think that grocery stores grow meat, veggies in cans ... as they once did in Key West Florida long long ago.
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Everything you say is true. I dabbled in cattle a while back. Too many variables.  And way too much work. I just lease my acreage now and let someone else have the headache, lol.  But most people don't understand the work that goes into their hamburger. It's at the grocery store in a package...what's the problem? I appreciate anyone that stays in the business.

My last few years at it were just prior to covid... I went in partners with a buddy who had the land and the herd anyway... I would invest in six angus feeder steers annually (across 2 years) - purchase as feeder steers, a proportional payment in feed and vet, and a reduced price for the pasture (he had the room for em anyway).

I just rode his averages... and it was good for him because he was dealing with fixed prices and my addition (and others) let him buy into bigger lots. And I would pitch in and handle his chores if he could not.

But even so, it was a crap-shoot, man. The idea was to profit enough that 2 of those beeves (1 per year) are cut and wrapped for nothing. That was the break-point, not really profit oriented...  It took twelve beeves to 'pay for' two. And that usually almost kinda worked out.

The prices float, all the way around, so you never know what's gonna hit you.... so the whole thing is a bet. The worst year, one of my tagged steers got sick (which is rare) and wound up having to be put down. Since no one figured out what happened, he wound up feeding the coyotes. That loss made that two year venture hurt a bit...For that time frame I paid out 25% of cut and wrapped price. But mostly it worked out alright.

But I am glad I bowed out (well, I had other things to worry about) since the whole  covid thing... Tripling prices on feed and hay... tripling prices on feeder steers and cow/calf... I don't think I would have made my 'free' beef since.

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No way to 'get prices down'.

It takes years to get a herd into a profitable condition, in my case close to a decade.

Those hard years had me taking significant losses as I saw the calves hit the auction barn and bring prices that could not cover my costs.

My calf sale last month was the most profitable I have ever had.  Let me rephrase that - It was possibly the only profitable sale I have ever had.

A good hay year let me stockpile enough to make it through the winter, just as long as the John Deere doesn't start giving me problems.

Ranchers do not set the prices - they depend upon auction houses to sell their cattle, just like a wheat farmer does not 'get prices down' on the wheat crop.
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