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 Trump appears to suggest that he’ll vote to overturn Florida’s six-week abortion ban: ‘Too short’
By Victor Nava   
Published Aug. 29, 2024, 7:43 p.m. ET

Former President Donald Trump appeared to suggest Thursday that he’ll vote in favor of a Florida ballot measure aimed at overturning the state’s six-week abortion ban.

“I think the six week is too short. It has to be more time,” Trump told NBC News when asked how he intends to vote on the November referendum. “I want more weeks.”

“I am going to be voting that we need more than six weeks,” the former president added.

A Trump campaign spokesperson said after the brief interview that the former president was not making a declaration on how he would vote on the ballot measure.

“President Trump has not yet said how he will vote on the ballot initiative in Florida, he simply reiterated that he believes six weeks is too short,” Trump Campaign National Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said in a statement.

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Idiot.  This is one issue where he absolutely positively needs to keep his big mouth shut.  If there is one person in this country who plays absolutely zero role in amending the Constitution, it is the President of the United States.  Abortion is not his issue.
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Idiot.  This is one issue where he absolutely positively needs to keep his big mouth shut.  If there is one person in this country who plays absolutely zero role in amending the Constitution, it is the President of the United States.  Abortion is not his issue.

It is a nightmare for the pro-life movement.  Trump has sided with George Soros, the ACLU, and Planned Parenthood.  Polling had the amendment below the 60% threshold, with DeSantis, various congressmen, and religious groups working in opposition.  Now it will pass.  Abortion through 9 months in our 3rd largest state.  Also, parental consent is eliminated. 

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There's no point in blaming Mr. Trump for saying this.

The issue of abortion has become a true millstone around the neck of Republicans.
Quite frankly, it's now a losing issue for them in practically every state battleground so far. And it's going to get worse, as the left has succeeded in getting "pro-abortion referendums" on almost all the ballots of the crucial swing states this election.

And what do Republicans and conservatives have to blame for that "millstone"?
Why, nothing less than the Dobbs decision itself.

Dobbs has done MORE THAN Roe to liberalize abortion, even in the most conservative states (because these states mostly have the vector of popular initiative by which to add laws to the state books, and even state constitutional amendments, as is going to happen in Florida).

Under Roe, the fetus at least had the protection of the state in the third trimester, and at least some protection (depending on the state) in the second trimester.

NOT SO post-Roe.
Since the issue is now "back in the hands of the states", there are NO Roe-related restrictions that remain. Didn't someone mention above that the Florida constitutional amendment will permit abortion until birth?

You're not going to like what I say next:
The pro-life movement has lost.
They will never again control this issue.
Essentially, the arguments over abortion ARE OVER in America, in the vast majority of states. The leftists won.

And what vanquished the pro-lifers was NOT Roe.
It was Dobbs.

I posted about this for years on this forum (and on the other one when I was there). Nobody would listen to the suggestion that ending Roe might produce worse results than keeping it.

Ultimately, abortion seems to be something that most women want available, whether they use it as an option or not.

So long as women have the vote, it's an option that is not going to be taken away from them.



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Six weeks is about the time a fetal heartbeat can be detected. That's the cutoff in ND.
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🚨BREAKING: President Trump says he is voting NO on Florida's Amendment 4, which would legalize abortion through the 9th month:

"All of that stuff is unacceptable so I will be voting no for that reason."
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You're not going to like what I say next:
The pro-life movement has lost.
They will never again control this issue.
Essentially, the arguments over abortion ARE OVER in America, in the vast majority of states. The leftists won.

This is not so.  Attitudes change.  Just look at your boy Donald.  He did a total 180 overnight. 

I could point to other examples: border wall, capital punishment, gay marriage, Jim Crow.  No matter how contentious the subject, persistence tends to pay off. 

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And what do Republicans and conservatives have to blame for that "millstone"?
Why, nothing less than the Dobbs decision itself.

Dobbs has done MORE THAN Roe to liberalize abortion, even in the most conservative states (because these states mostly have the vector of popular initiative by which to add laws to the state books, and even state constitutional amendments, as is going to happen in Florida).

Under Roe, the fetus at least had the protection of the state in the third trimester, and at least some protection (depending on the state) in the second trimester.

Nice.  So we should trash the Constitution when it is politically expedient to do so.

By the way, the ONLY reason it is a political millstone is because dumb stupid idiotic politicians like Donald Trump keep opening their fat mouths and making it one.
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Idiot.  This is one issue where he absolutely positively needs to keep his big mouth shut.  If there is one person in this country who plays absolutely zero role in amending the Constitution, it is the President of the United States.  Abortion is not his issue.

I think it's Trump voting as a citizen/resident of Florida? However... this will needlessly confuse and anger people. Unforced error IMO.