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Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
« Reply #50 on: November 21, 2023, 06:52:35 am »
Argentina’s  inflation was caused by printing their currency to cover deficit spending

Sound familiar? That’s what brought on the Trump/Biden inflation we are now joyfully experiencing

How is he going to replace the peso with the dollar when we’re doing the same thing?

He is not Argentina’s Donald Trump. He’s a more charismatic and radical version of Ron Paul. The media labeled him as a Donald Trump because Trump is their Hitler and everyone they don’t like is Trump
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Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
« Reply #51 on: November 21, 2023, 09:11:14 am »
He wants to replace the peso with the US dollar. How wise is that considering that we’re also printing and devaluing our own currency?

It's all just monopoly money until it's backed by something real. That includes U.S. Dollars.
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« Reply #52 on: November 21, 2023, 09:40:48 am »
He wants to replace the peso with the US dollar. How wise is that considering that we’re also printing and devaluing our own currency?

All about relativity really. Doing so will probably greatly benefit the average citizen. I'd be happy if we went back to gold backed currency. Ever bitcoin would possibly be better.

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« Reply #53 on: November 21, 2023, 09:53:24 am »
As far as reducing government and reining in  spending, I wish him luck

He’s gonna find, like this country, every government program has a constituency

We even see that here on this conservative site.

But it’s either cut spending or continue with their inflationary economy
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« Reply #54 on: November 21, 2023, 09:56:46 am »
Actually if he was able to effectively pulloff completely converting his peso to the $USD, it would strengthen our soverign debt, but the most noticable effects of foreign goods would be cheaper by the sheer fact suppy/demand curves.  From a fiscal perspective it would be like adding 46M Americans.  Plus you'd see an upshoot of the currency price, if flips the switch quickly and there is a shortage (perceptive or real) of $USD.

OTOH, converting to dollars is pretty much a fungible way of them investing into our treasuries (debt0.  And at a time when then nation in question has a 140+% Debt to GDP ratio and $32T of these dollar in real debt.  They also will have turned over their fiscal policy to 1 POTUS, 535 elected officals, and about a 1000 Treasury swamp creatures. All iditots   Bad move for them from my POV.

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« Reply #55 on: November 21, 2023, 10:39:19 am »
It's all just monopoly money until it's backed by something real. That includes U.S. Dollars.
Pretty soon we will have to back the money with something tangible.

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« Reply #56 on: November 21, 2023, 02:58:10 pm »
Biden has yet to congratulate libertarian President-elect Milei of Argentina on his election victory
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 By Kerry Picket - The Washington Times - Tuesday, November 21, 2023

President Biden has yet to personally congratulate President-elect Javier Milei of Argentina following his enormous electoral victory.

According to Argentina‘s electoral authority, Mr. Milei, a firebrand libertarian-conservative, scored a decisive victory Sunday over an establishment candidate in Argentina‘s presidential runoff with 55.7% of the 99.7% votes cast to Economic Minister Sergio Massa’s 44.3%.

It is the widest margin of victory in a presidential race since the country returned to democracy in 1983.

Despite the decisive victory achieved by Mr. Milei, Mr. Biden has yet to issue a personal congratulatory statement to the incoming Argentinian president, such as he did for Liberia’s president-elect Joseph Boakai on Monday. Mr. Boakai won his tight race with 51% of the vote against the country’s incumbent president, George Weah, who garnered 49%. ...
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« Reply #57 on: November 21, 2023, 03:12:28 pm »
   In other news Trump hasn't taken credit for his election yet, either. 
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« Reply #58 on: November 22, 2023, 07:17:40 am »
   In other news Trump hasn't taken credit for his election yet, either.

Argentina’s economy suffered from unsustainable deficit spending that required currency devaluation to cover and high tariffs

We have a GOP candidate running on doing just that to our economy so if anything, Trump can take credit for the economic model that Argentina followed
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« Reply #59 on: November 22, 2023, 09:00:53 am »
Yes, it's probably not fair to call him Trump-like, for the reasons cited above, but anyway:

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BREAKING: Argentina’s new ‘Trump-like’ President Javier Milei keeps his promise and has announced that the Argentinian Ministry of Women, Gender, and Equality will close in 21 days.
10:29 PM · Nov 20, 2023

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Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
« Reply #60 on: November 22, 2023, 09:03:40 am »
Yes, it's probably not fair to call him Trump-like, for the reasons cited above, but anyway:

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BREAKING: Argentina’s new ‘Trump-like’ President Javier Milei keeps his promise and has announced that the Argentinian Ministry of Women, Gender, and Equality will close in 21 days.
10:29 PM · Nov 20, 2023

This is how you start to drain the swamp. Get rid of unnecessary departments and employees.

Especially the ultra woke ones first.   :beer:
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« Reply #61 on: November 22, 2023, 09:18:04 am »
    Has Trump ever met a Department he cut their budget or eliminated?  Asking for a Friend.
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« Reply #62 on: November 22, 2023, 09:26:34 am »
    Has Trump ever met a Department he cut their budget or eliminated?  Asking for a Friend.

Source: https://www.federalpay.org/employees

Federal Employees by year:

2022- 1,402,029
2021- 1,408,090
2020- 1,403,563
2019- 1,374,913
2018- 1,478,391
2017- 1,339,645

My trusty calculator states that Fedzilla grew 5.2% under the Orange Menace
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Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
« Reply #63 on: November 22, 2023, 10:35:54 am »
Yes, it's probably not fair to call him Trump-like, for the reasons cited above, but anyway:

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BREAKING: Argentina’s new ‘Trump-like’ President Javier Milei keeps his promise and has announced that the Argentinian Ministry of Women, Gender, and Equality will close in 21 days.
10:29 PM · Nov 20, 2023

This is how you start to drain the swamp. Get rid of unnecessary departments and employees.

Lol

What does a Ministry of Women, Gender, and Equality do?
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« Reply #64 on: November 22, 2023, 10:41:37 am »
Lol

What does a Ministry of Women, Gender, and Equality do?

   Change the Labels on $hit.

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Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
« Reply #65 on: November 22, 2023, 10:46:35 am »
November 22, 2023
Biden fails to congratulate Argentina's new president, libertarian Javier Milei
By Monica Showalter

Joe Biden has always been Johnny-on-the-spot whenever a radical leftist has gotten elected in Latin America.

But for Argentina's new president, elected by a ten-point-plus margin?

Crickets.

He's said nothing at all to Javier Milei, Argentina's first libertarian president, on his quite truly historic victory in an undoubtedly free and fair election, with 30 million hand-counted ballots, their validity approved by both parties and delivered on election night, that made Milei president. He could have congratuated just the election if he couldn't stand Milei, which we know he can't as a fair-minded formality, but of course, he didn't. The White House web site is bereft of any pretense of congratulations from hoary old Joe.

That stands in striking contrast to his swift congratulatory message to other countries that have elected radical leftist leaders.

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« Reply #66 on: November 22, 2023, 10:58:07 am »

Crickets.


That's all that's left in his brain at this point.

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« Reply #67 on: November 22, 2023, 12:28:58 pm »
That's all that's left in his brain at this point.

I wouldn’t even say crickets

At least  crickets are lively and active
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« Reply #68 on: November 22, 2023, 01:14:25 pm »
OK. Dead crickets. Stink bugs, too.
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« Reply #69 on: November 22, 2023, 05:09:15 pm »
LMAO asks:
"What does a Ministry of Women, Gender, and Equality do?"

Issue regulations
Produce reports
Grow in size
Increase its power
Issue more regulations

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« Reply #70 on: November 22, 2023, 05:18:54 pm »
Lol

What does a Ministry of Women, Gender, and Equality do?

I don't know but it's very likely that WE have four or five of them!
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« Reply #71 on: November 22, 2023, 06:23:26 pm »
Brutal week for the far-left

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What just happened in the Netherlands is massive.
This is a political earthquake.
Right-wing Geert Wilders is set to win the election.
And a massive win for the Dutch farmers.
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« Reply #72 on: November 22, 2023, 07:32:28 pm »
Brutal week for the far-left

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What just happened in the Netherlands is massive.
This is a political earthquake.
Right-wing Geert Wilders is set to win the election.
And a massive win for the Dutch farmers.
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https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1727446120622653673


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« Reply #73 on: November 22, 2023, 09:30:13 pm »

 :thumbsup:

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I honestly never thought that would happen.

The Swedes are SOOOO in love with  their socialism.

Looks like just MAYBE the influx of all those 3rd world parasites turned out to be a good thing.
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« Reply #74 on: November 23, 2023, 06:38:19 am »
@LMAO

I honestly never thought that would happen.

The Swedes are SOOOO in love with  their socialism.

Looks like just MAYBE the influx of all those 3rd world parasites turned out to be a good thing.

Sweden  gave up socialism sometime I think either in the 90s or early 2000

And this wasn’t a Swedish election. It was in the Netherlands

The driving  issue was the Islamification of the Netherlands

BTW, have folks noticed that if the media doesn’t like a certain politician they label them “far right” or “Donald Trump?”
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« Reply #75 on: November 23, 2023, 01:22:28 pm »
Sweden  gave up socialism sometime I think either in the 90s or early 2000

And this wasn’t a Swedish election. It was in the Netherlands

@LMAO

I stand corrected.

Thank you.

 
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« Reply #77 on: November 24, 2023, 12:11:44 pm »
“It is madness, it is delusional, to think that a representative of the people is above the people themselves.” — Javier Milei

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« Reply #78 on: December 01, 2023, 09:43:54 am »
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The differences between Donald Trump’s economic nationalism and Javier Milei’s anarcho-capitalism are obvious, but that doesn’t make it incoherent to celebrate them both, or to call them both right-wing populists.
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Celebrations by the MAGA right of Javier Milei’s victory in the Argentine presidential election have been met with accusations of incoherence. This says as much about the critics as it does global right-wing populism.

The differences between Donald Trump’s economic nationalism and Milei’s self-described anarcho-capitalism, even tempered by the guaranteed compromises of party government, are obvious. But they share more than “owning the libs.” Or, rather, such liberal ownership is more than an emotionally reactionary opportunity for schadenfreude, but a coherent, if often inarticulate, program of political restoration—that is, restoring the political to politics.

Milei, like Trump, puts persons, and personality, above process and programs.

The temptation for the conservative commentariat, Republican electioneers, and think-tank theorists, on the other hand, has been an effort to make a system out of MAGA and to define the populist moment by a set of principles.  ...
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« Reply #79 on: December 01, 2023, 12:06:28 pm »
My hope is Trump combines some generous anarcho capitalism with his populism in his hypothetical Presidency, otherwise his President may be as disastrous as Biden's. And God knows what we'll get in 2028 then.

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« Reply #80 on: December 01, 2023, 03:46:21 pm »
My hope is Trump combines some generous anarcho capitalism with his populism in his hypothetical Presidency, otherwise his President may be as disastrous as Biden's. And God knows what we'll get in 2028 then.

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I do. A leftist police state.

We are ALMOST there now. If anyone BUT Trump becomes the next President,we are officially  screwed.

A President that has his eyes on the history books and who can ONLY serve ONE TERM is the only hope we have for the survival of America as a free nation of free people.

Even then it  is nothing  but  a "maybe" because come the next election,the Dims are going to be ready with a "stealth" communist  candidate. This is why I hope Trump picks a VP running mate that has HIS eye on the future.
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« Reply #81 on: December 01, 2023, 03:51:32 pm »
My hope is Trump combines some generous anarcho capitalism

Forget it. Not happening

A second Trump term will be about get back at detractors while growing the size of the state.

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« Reply #82 on: December 01, 2023, 03:54:35 pm »
@Weird Tolkenish Figure

I do. A leftist police state.

We are ALMOST there now. If anyone BUT Trump becomes the next President,we are officially  screwed.

A President that has his eyes on the history books and who can ONLY serve ONE TERM is the only hope we have for the survival of America as a free nation of free people.

Even then it  is nothing  but  a "maybe" because come the next election,the Dims are going to be ready with a "stealth" communist  candidate. This is why I hope Trump picks a VP running mate that has HIS eye on the future.
I know exactly what we will get in 2028 if Trump is elected, at least 8 years of democrat rule, and Trump will never pick anyone for for VP that is strong because he can't allow his ego to be outshone that's why we got milquetoast Pence. And at Trumps age people will definitely be looking at the VP when considering who to vote for because no one wants an weakling standing in the wings.

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« Reply #83 on: December 01, 2023, 03:59:29 pm »
I know exactly what we will get in 2028 if Trump is elected, at least 8 years of democrat rule, and Trump will never pick anyone for for VP that is strong because he can't allow his ego to be outshone that's why we got milquetoast Pence. And at Trumps age people will definitely be looking at the VP when considering who to vote for because no one wants an weakling standing in the wings.

Who ever the Democrats run in 2024 will win regardless who the GOP nominee is.
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« Reply #84 on: December 01, 2023, 04:00:16 pm »
I know exactly what we will get in 2028 if Trump is elected, at least 8 years of democrat rule, and Trump will never pick anyone for for VP that is strong because he can't allow his ego to be outshone that's why we got milquetoast Pence. And at Trumps age people will definitely be looking at the VP when considering who to vote for because no one wants an weakling standing in the wings.

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« Reply #85 on: December 01, 2023, 04:28:14 pm »
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I had never thought of you as a "surrender monkey".
I'm not, neither am a orange butt monkey, I'm just reality based and it takes no crystal ball to see that even if Trump won, we would lose, the communists would have majorities in both houses and Trump would be a lame duck president all four years. And just like his first term nothing would be accomplished except by erasable EO's.....oh except of course his rubber stamping every insane spending bill put forth by the democrats. Yay so much winning to look forward too!
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Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
« Reply #86 on: December 01, 2023, 04:47:26 pm »

I'm not, neither am a orange butt monkey, I'm just reality based and it takes no crystal ball to see that even if Trump won, we would lose, the communists would have majorities in both houses and Trump would be a lame duck president all four years. And just like his first term nothing would be accomplished except by erasable EO's.....oh except of course his rubber stamping every insane spending bill put forth by the democrats. Yay so much winning to look forward too!


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Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
« Reply #87 on: December 01, 2023, 07:45:42 pm »
Dayumm!! @GtHawk 

Hope you don't have a lot of guns laying around!!       happy77    :beer:
Depends on what your definition of a lot is :tongue2: :beer:

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Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
« Reply #88 on: December 11, 2023, 09:38:24 am »
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REMARKABLE! In his first act, newly sworn President of Argentina, Javier Milei, signs an executive order reducing the Argentine government from 21 Departments to 9. A major reduction of bureaucracy and overhead. Impressive.
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Re: Argentina's Sergio Massa concedes presidential election to Javier Milei
« Reply #89 on: December 11, 2023, 09:45:33 am »
Fernando Amandi Sr.🌐
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REMARKABLE! In his first act, newly sworn President of Argentina, Javier Milei, signs an executive order reducing the Argentine government from 21 Departments to 9. A major reduction of bureaucracy and overhead. Impressive.
6:53 PM · Dec 10, 2023
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