Please Note -- Your 2nd Amendment Rights ARE In Jeopardy

[libertybele]

I received this message from the NRA.  I don't know if this ban is only applicable to the state of FL. I don't know how many other states are making this push.  They want to make a ban on assault weapons, magazines, a CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT.  Again, they are pushing for a Constitutional Amendment.  God help us.

I doubt that this will be limited to rifles and shotguns, but any semi-auto weapon.

 

The so-called "assault weapons" ban that is proposed for a constitutional amendment to be on the 2020 Election Ballot bans the possession of:
 
“any semiautomatic rifle or shotgun CAPABLE of holding more than ten (10) rounds of ammunition at once, either in a fixed or detachable magazine or other ammunition feeding device.”
 
The fact is, any rifle or shotgun that is "capable" of accepting or using, a detachable magazine that holds 10 rounds or less is also "capable" of accepting a magazine or magazine extension of any size. Magazines with a capacity of 3 all the way up to 100 rounds are in common use throughout the United States.

Therefore, ALL semiautomatic rifles and shotguns "capable" of using a detachable magazine or fixed magazine would be banned. UNLESS YOU REGISTER THEM WITH THE GOVERNMENT within a year -- so the government knows who has guns and how many.  Otherwise you can be arrested, charged and prosecuted for felony possession of so-called "assault weapons" and your guns confiscated.
 
That means all Ruger 10-22 semiautomatic rifles, all Remington Model 1100 shotguns, all Benelli shotguns,  all semiautomatic hunting rifles, all semiautomatic plinking and target rifles -- you get the picture.  If it is semiautomatic, kiss it goodbye.
 
Firearms that you legally purchased, legally owned, legally used, and legally possessed for years could suddenly be banned and you could end up in prison for merely continuing to possess your own property if you fail to register with the government. History shows that when the government knows who has guns and where they are, they can come and confiscate them.

Remember, once convicted of felony possession of a so-called “assault weapon,” then YOU LOSE ALL OF YOUR GUNS because felons can’t possess ANY GUNS, Period.
 
Further, manufacture and sale is also banned since there is no exemption whatever for possession due to manufacturing, distribution or sale.
 
Simply put, over 150 manufacturers may be forced to shut down and move out of Florida if they manufacture semiautomatic rifles or shotguns. Goodbye jobs, goodbye Pittman-Robertson money for youth gun safety programs, goodbye retail gun shops, HELLO, major damage to the job market and Florida's economy.
 
A recent Gallup poll shows that over 40% of households ADMIT to owning at least one gun. That number is probably much higher since we don't like telling pollsters what we own.  In Florida with a population of over 22 million, that means 9-10 million Florida households could lose their home defense firearms if they are semiautomatic rifles or shotguns.
 
At an August 16th hearing, sponsor and supporters of the "Assault Weapons" Amendment said the following:
 
“We don’t think it bans Ruger 10-22 rifles, they’re just .22s.” --BUT IT DOES!!!!!
 
"My Benelli shotgun is beautiful and shouldn't be banned. -- BUT IT WILL BE!!!!!
 
“We don’t want to shut down your shooting range and gun shop.” -- BUT IT WILL!!!!!
 
Welcome to reality.  What they think or what they say they want doesn’t matter.
 
ONLY the words matter and the proposed amendment will ban Ruger 10-22s, Benelli Shotguns, Remington Model 1100 shotguns and all semiautomatic rifles and shotguns with detachable or fixed magazine.
 
What matters is what the language says and does. And past experience has shown us that the government will enforce it as badly as they possibly can. 
 
BOTTOM LINE: The sponsors and supporters either don’t know what the heck they are doing or they are lying.
 
AND your Second Amendment rights are in danger. PERIOD.
 

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20190819/florida-alert-assault-weapons-ban-amendment-bans-all-semiautomatic-rifles-and-shotguns

[conservativevoter]

Doesn't that take 2/3 of our congress plus 3/4 of the states?   

[thackney]

What a great way to make sure you motivate the conservative base to get out and vote.

Do you want to wake up the people that try to ignore politics and go one with their lives?  Do this.  They will be in the voting booth for sure.

[libertybele]

Doesn't that take 2/3 of our congress plus 3/4 of the states?   

That's the catch here.  It is not a federal constitutional amendment, but state.  So let's say it passes.  Then those residing in the state of FL, (and I expect other states will follow), then your semi-auto will have to be reported to the gov't.

Will it stop there??  I doubt it.  Think of what this could potentially do.  What about those applying to renew their conceal license?  What if now you will be mandated to declare and register ALL your weapons. That renewal may be subject to approval based on the weapons owned?

It's anybody's guess what could happen.

The elections in this state have already proven to be corrupt.

[libertybele]

What a great way to make sure you motivate the conservative base to get out and vote.

Do you want to wake up the people that try to ignore politics and go one with their lives?  Do this.  They will be in the voting booth for sure.

Well, in theory I would like to think that this will finally wake up conservatives and moderates. 

The problem I forsee, is how many of those same voters won't know that this is even going to be on the ballot?  Secondly, all its going to take is for people in this state to experience another mass shooting to get on board.  Gov. Scott was absolutely WRONG to sign into law red flag laws in FL.  Here we sit now with a proposed amendment. 

If this succeeds in FL, you can bet that there will be a push in other states.  FL, TX and CA are the states with the largest gun ownership.

In order to collapse this Republic, they need to dismantle and abolish the 2A. 

[thackney]

The problem I forsee, is how many of those same voters won't know that this is even going to be on the ballot?

As of now, it is not going to be on the ballot.  Lots of stuff is proposed and never gets enough support.  I suspect this will be the same.  Keep an eye on it.  For sure it will get a LOT of attention if it ever gets that far.

https://ballotpedia.org/Florida_2020_ballot_measures

[EdJames]

While, ominous, it is not certain that this measure will appear on the ballot.

Some info:
- Status: in signature gathering phase
- 766,200 valid signatures are required
- deadline for signature verification is February 1, 2020.
- as of August 5, 2019, the Department of Elections showed that proponents had submitted 100,011 valid signatures

Good to read:

On July 26, 2019, Florida Attorney General Ashley Moody (R) filed a motion with the state supreme court arguing the measure's ballot language is misleading and unclear and that the initiative should be blocked from the ballot. Moody argued that the measure would "ban the possession of virtually every semi-automatic long-gun. To be included on the ballot, the sprawling practical effect of the amendment must be revealed in the ballot language. Because that effect is not revealed, the ballot language is deficient. Moreover, the ballot title and summary do not inform Florida's electorate that virtually every lawful owner of a semi-automatic long-gun will be forced to register with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, or that this registry would be available to all local, state, and federal law enforcement agencies. Nor do the ballot title and summary state the time within which preexisting long-gun owners must register their firearms that meet the proposed amendment's definition of ‘assault weapon’ and avail themselves of the amendment's grandfathering provision.”

Let's hope that our fellow Floridians are not insane enough to provide the 666,189 additional signatures required!!

More info:

https://ballotpedia.org/Florida_Ban_on_Semiautomatic_Rifles_and_Shotguns_Initiative_(2020)

[libertybele]

As of now, it is not going to be on the ballot.  Lots of stuff is proposed and never gets enough support.  I suspect this will be the same.  Keep an eye on it.  For sure it will get a LOT of attention if it ever gets that far.

https://ballotpedia.org/Florida_2020_ballot_measures

Thank you for this information. 

[libertybele]

While, ominous, it is not certain that this measure will appear on the ballot.

Some info:
- Status: in signature gathering phase
- 766,200 valid signatures are required
- deadline for signature verification is February 1, 2020.
- as of August 5, 2019, the Department of Elections showed that proponents had submitted 100,011 valid signatures

Good to read:
Let's hope that our fellow Floridians are not insane enough to provide the 666,189 additional signatures required!!

More info:

https://ballotpedia.org/Florida_Ban_on_Semiautomatic_Rifles_and_Shotguns_Initiative_(2020)

Thanks.  I feel much better.  The way I interpreted the memo, I thought that it was already slated to be on the ballot.

(Two issues that raise my stress level; tampering with the 2A and illegal immigration).

[EdJames]

Thanks.  I feel much better.  The way I interpreted the memo, I thought that it was already slated to be on the ballot.

(Two issues that raise my stress level; tampering with the 2A and illegal immigration).

As you know, me too!!

 

[txradioguy]

The so-called Florida “assault weapons” ban that is proposed for a constitutional amendment to be on the 2020 Election Ballot bans the possession of:

“any semiautomatic rifle or shotgun CAPABLE of holding more than ten (10) rounds of ammunition at once, either in a fixed or detachable magazine or other ammunition feeding device.”

The fact is, any rifle or shotgun that is “capable” of accepting or using, a detachable magazine that holds 10 rounds or less is also “capable” of accepting a magazine or magazine extension of any size. Magazines with a capacity of 3 all the way up to 100 rounds are in common use throughout the United States.

Therefore, ALL semiautomatic rifles and shotguns “capable” of using a detachable magazine or fixed magazine would be banned. UNLESS YOU REGISTER THEM WITH THE GOVERNMENT within a year — so the government knows who has guns and how many.
Otherwise you can be arrested, charged and prosecuted for felony possession of so-called “assault weapons” and your guns confiscated.

That means all Ruger 10-22 semiautomatic rifles, all Remington Model 1100 shotguns, all Benelli shotguns, all semiautomatic hunting rifles, all semiautomatic plinking and target rifles — you get the picture. If it is semiautomatic, kiss it goodbye.

Firearms that you legally purchased, legally owned, legally used, and legally possessed for years could suddenly be banned and you could end up in prison for merely continuing to possess your own property if you fail to register with the government. History shows that when the government knows who has guns and where they are, they can come and confiscate them.

Remember, once convicted of felony possession of a so-called “assault weapon,” then YOU LOSE ALL OF YOUR GUNS because felons can’t possess ANY GUNS, Period.

Further, manufacture and sale is also banned since there is no exemption whatever for possession due to manufacturing, distribution or sale.
Simply put, over 150 manufacturers may be forced to shut down and move out of Florida if they manufacture semiautomatic rifles or shotguns. Goodbye jobs, goodbye Pittman-Robertson money for youth gun safety programs, goodbye retail gun shops, HELLO, major damage to the job market and Florida's economy.

A recent Gallop poll shows that over 40% of households ADMIT to owning at least one gun. That number is probably much higher since we don't like telling pollsters what we own. In Florida with a population of over 22 million, that means 9-10 million Florida households could lose their home defense firearms if they are semiautomatic rifles or shotguns.

https://www.ammoland.com/2019/08/florida-assault-weapons-ban-amendment-targets-all-semiautomatic-rifles-shotguns/

[EdJames]

@txradioguy

You might want to merge this prior thread in here: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,372679.msg2037188.html#msg2037188

(it used title from email subject, same topic, has some posts with info)