MASSIVE DEMOCRAT TURNOUT In Alabama — GOP Turnout 50% of 2016; Democrat Turnout 92% of 2016

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

Did GOP voters really stay home? I think a 50% turnout in a special election would be pretty good. But 90% of Dems when most are rural poor, that smells something fishy.

The source is suspect, but look at the headline.    GOP Turnout 50% of 2016; Democrat Turnout 92% of 2016.
From this we have no idea what percentage of Dems actually turned out, only that the number was very close to the number that turned out in 2016.  For all we know, only 10% of Dems turned out in 2016, and 9.2% in 2016. 

A drop of 10% seems pretty small for a special election, and probably normally is.  However, I suspect turnout was artificially low in 2016 when they knew they were going to get wiped out, and artificially high in 2017 when they knew they had a decent chance of winning (and maybe get a little payback for 2016?).

[cato potatoe]

Will all of the questionable stuff that went down, Moore only needed to campaign like somebody who wanted the job.  He could easily have turned out 20,716 more voters.  Moore disappeared at the wrong time and seemed to be stubborn and/or blind to what was happening around him. 

GOP primary voters must do a better job vetting the candidates.  Just because a man agrees with you does not mean he will be a competent candidate or representative.

[musiclady]

Did GOP voters really stay home? I think a 50% turnout in a special election would be pretty good. But 90% of Dems when most are rural poor, that smells something fishy.

If Republican voters hadn't stayed home, Moore would have won.

And discerning people should try to figure out why they stayed home.


(PS..  blaming it on everyone else under the sun other than the candidate himself, isn't discerning).

[INVAR]

If Republican voters hadn't stayed home, Moore would have won.

And discerning people should try to figure out why they stayed home.

Oh, I don't know.... in normal times one would easily recognize that sudden and miraculous unprovable allegations of sexual impropriety from 40 years ago might have had something to do with twenty something thousand voters staying home.

But these are not normal times.

[Frank Cannon]

Oh, I don't know.... in normal times one would easily recognize that sudden and miraculous unprovable allegations of sexual impropriety from 40 years ago might have had something to do with twenty something thousand voters staying home.

But these are not normal times.

Maybe people saw a guy give half assed explanations for these charges, to the point Hannity bailed on him, and saw that he took a nap the last week of the campaign. Remove all the scandal and nonsense in this race and look at how Moore actually campaigned and ran for this seat. It was total garbage from his ignoring bringing up Jones nonstop on the trail to his spokespeople being some of the stupidest, ill prepared morons ever to get in front of a camera.

Don't believe me? Watch this shitshow. Embarrassing.....

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/12/12/roy-moore-campaign-spokesman-swearing-on-bible-tapper-lead.cnn

[INVAR]

Moore had no problems campaigning in the Primary from all indications.

He beat Mitch's bitch handily.

Moore got sucker punched after the allegations surfaced, and it showed in spades afterwards.

[dfwgator]

Moore had no problems campaigning in the Primary from all indications.

He beat Mitch's bitch handily.

Moore got sucker punched after the allegations surfaced, and it showed in spades afterwards.

It was the juxtaposition with Weinstein that provided the sucker punch.  If it wasn't for the whole Weinstein thing, it wouldn't have been that big of a deal.

[musiclady]

Oh, I don't know.... in normal times one would easily recognize that sudden and miraculous unprovable allegations of sexual impropriety from 40 years ago might have had something to do with twenty something thousand voters staying home.

But these are not normal times.

Or the candidate's complete inability to defend himself against the charges.  Or his having a pastor dig the hole deeper by talking about young girls' "purity."  Or the candidate's shoving his foot deep in his mouth with the tone deaf, ignorant comment about the days of slavery being great for families.....

Blaming this entirely on the media is averting your eyes from your problematic candidate.

Sorry.  But he's not the magnificent constitutionalist some are portraying him to be.

[Free Vulcan]

You read again.  The overall registered voter turnout in 2016 was 64% in a presidential election year.  What they're saying is half the number of those R voters came back and almost all of the D voters did.  Even if all came back from both parties, it's nowhere near 100% for either. 

Special election turnout is key.  Dems got most of the number that got smashed last November to come back and only won by 1.5%.  That only happened because almost 23K were write-ins, which would have been enough to cover the loss by a few hundred.

Keep screaming voter fraud and looking like a clown.

Overall registered turnout includes Indies, which vote at lesser percentages than party affiliated, which tend to be around 80% for Dems, 90% for Reps.

That would yield about a 73% turnout for Dems, 45% for Reps in the special. Anything above 25% in a special is an amazing turnout, I've only seen approaching 50% in very small local elections, and only one time. Never ever anything statewide.

70+% turnout for the Dems in a special has never been achieved anywhere, anytime for any election that I've ever heard of, certainly not statewide.

[edpc]

Don't believe me? Watch this shitshow. Embarrassing.....

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/12/12/roy-moore-campaign-spokesman-swearing-on-bible-tapper-lead.cnn

But, but.....tha bahbul.  LOL.  I know he thinks Trump’s swore the oath with one, but I’m pretty sure it was with this…..

[Emjay]

MASSIVE DEMOCRAT TURNOUT In Alabama — GOP Turnout 50% of 2016; Democrat Turnout 92% of 2016
by Jim Hoft

DEMOCRATS HAVE MASSIVE TURNOUT IN 2017 SPECIAL ELECTION–

In 2016 Republican Donald Trump won Alabama with 62% of the vote.
Trump had 1,318,255 votes



more
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/12/massive-democrat-turnout-alabama-gop-turnout-50-2016-democrat-turnout-92-2016/

If there was any mystery, this explains it.

It doesn't explain how the dems got the vote out.  I know they sent in some big guns and Obama made some robo calls but, it still doesn't make a lot of sense.

[Frank Cannon]

Moore had no problems campaigning in the Primary from all indications.

What indications are those? Roy got around 1/3 of the General GOP vote in his Primary. It tells me no one cared for either candidate.

[Jazzhead]

It was the juxtaposition with Weinstein that provided the sucker punch.  If it wasn't for the whole Weinstein thing, it wouldn't have been that big of a deal.

Probably true.   It's been a pervnado out there. 

[Suppressed]

GOP primary voters must do a better job vetting the candidates.  Just because a man agrees with you does not mean he will be a competent candidate or representative.

Let's not leave out women.  It wasn't just Akin and Moore handing over Senate seats...we also had O'Donnelly and Angle.

What will it take to stop this idiocy?!?

[edpc]

It doesn't explain how the dems got the vote out.  I know they sent in some big guns and Obama made some robo calls but, it still doesn't make a lot of sense.

It makes perfect sense.  Dems are vastly outnumbered as registered voters in AL.  Any political strategist worth anything knows turnout in midterm and special elections are historically lower.  Getting their people out was the only way they had a realistic shot.  As it was, they got most of the numbers that participated in 2016 to show, while Republicans got half of theirs.

Even with a 2 to 1 returning margin for Democrats, they still only achieved a 1.5% margin of victory and spent a ton of money to do it. That does not bode well for Jones keeping the seat after 2020.

[dfwgator]

Let's not leave out women.  It wasn't just Akin and Moore handing over Senate seats...we also had O'Donnelly and Angle.

What will it take to stop this idiocy?!?

I've often wondered,  who would want to subject themselves to the scrutiny that comes with running for office these days?  I think most rational people would come to the conclusion that it's just not worth it.  So what's left?

[dfwgator]

It makes perfect sense.  Dems are vastly outnumbered as registered voters in AL.  Any political strategist worth anything knows turnout in midterm and special elections are historically lower.  Getting their people out was the only way they had a realistic shot.  As it was, they got most of the numbers that participated in 2016 to show, while Republicans got half of theirs.

Even with a 2 to 1 returning margin for Democrats, they still only achieved a 1.5% margin of victory and spent a ton of money to do it. That does not bode well for Jones keeping the seat after 2020.

The party that's out of power is usually more motivated during mid-terms.