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Russia, pre Soviet Union, was one of America's premier trading partners

Russia, pre Soviet Union, was a normal country

But ever since the Commies took over, it's been a malicious monster

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The White House announced on Monday that military aid to Ukraine would be suspended, including weapons in transit and those currently in Poland.

"This is not permanent termination of aid, it's a pause," Fox News reported. "The orders are going out right now."

A senior Trump administration official told Fox that the pause would last "until Trump determines that Ukrainians show a commitment of good faith in peace negotiations."

The announcement comes just days after President Trump clashed with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in the Oval Office after Zelenskyy appeared ungrateful and challenged Trump's comments on the seemingly endless war in Ukraine.

Earlier today, Trump told reporters, “Well, I just think he should be more appreciative because this country has stuck with them through thick and thin. We've given them much more than Europe, and Europe should have given more than us, because, as you know, that's right there, that's the border. This, this country really was like the fence on the border.”

Trump continued, “It was very important to Europe—and I'm not knocking Europe—I'm saying that... just they were a lot smarter than Joe Biden, because Joe Biden didn't have a clue. He just gave money hand over fist, and they should have been able to equalize with us. In other words, if we gave a dollar, they should have given, well, we gave $350 billion. They probably gave one hundred [billion dollars]. But on top of it all, they get their money back because they are doing it in the form of a loan, and it's a secured loan.”

After Zelenskyy claimed that a peace deal was "very, very far away" on Monday, Trump responded on Truth Social, "This is the worst statement that could have been made by Zelenskyy, and America will not put up with it for much longer! It is what I was saying, this guy doesn’t want there to be Peace as long as he has America’s backing and, Europe, in the meeting they had with Zelenskyy, stated flatly that they cannot do the job without the U.S. – Probably not a great statement to have been made in terms of a show of strength against Russia. What are they thinking?"

https://pjmedia.com/paula-bolyard/2025/03/03/breaking-trump-halts-military-aid-to-ukraine-n4937527
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The White House announced on Monday that military aid to Ukraine would be suspended, including weapons in transit and those currently in Poland.

"This is not permanent termination of aid, it's a pause," Fox News reported. "The orders are going out right now."

A senior Trump administration official told Fox that the pause would last "until Trump determines that Ukrainians show a commitment of good faith in peace negotiations."

The announcement comes just days after President Trump clashed with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in the Oval Office after Zelenskyy appeared ungrateful and challenged Trump's comments on the seemingly endless war in Ukraine.

Earlier today, Trump told reporters, “Well, I just think he should be more appreciative because this country has stuck with them through thick and thin. We've given them much more than Europe, and Europe should have given more than us, because, as you know, that's right there, that's the border. This, this country really was like the fence on the border.”

Trump continued, “It was very important to Europe—and I'm not knocking Europe—I'm saying that... just they were a lot smarter than Joe Biden, because Joe Biden didn't have a clue. He just gave money hand over fist, and they should have been able to equalize with us. In other words, if we gave a dollar, they should have given, well, we gave $350 billion. They probably gave one hundred [billion dollars]. But on top of it all, they get their money back because they are doing it in the form of a loan, and it's a secured loan.”

After Zelenskyy claimed that a peace deal was "very, very far away" on Monday, Trump responded on Truth Social, "This is the worst statement that could have been made by Zelenskyy, and America will not put up with it for much longer! It is what I was saying, this guy doesn’t want there to be Peace as long as he has America’s backing and, Europe, in the meeting they had with Zelenskyy, stated flatly that they cannot do the job without the U.S. – Probably not a great statement to have been made in terms of a show of strength against Russia. What are they thinking?"

https://pjmedia.com/paula-bolyard/2025/03/03/breaking-trump-halts-military-aid-to-ukraine-n4937527

Trump is absolutely correct. 

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Of course Russia is a geo-political threat, however, CHINA is the larger threat.  Let's not forget though that the DEMS wrongfully accused Russia and Trump. 

My opinion remains.  BOTH Z and Putin cannot be trusted.
When the time comes to deal with the Chinese threat, it's opponents will be the western countries in Europe and North America.
IMO, Russia is more likely to be on our side than on China's as Russia's ambition historically has been nearby while China's ambition is global domination.
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Russia, pre Soviet Union, was a normal country

But ever since the Commies took over, it's been a malicious monster

Russia may have been normal by global norms but they never had a period of enlightenment as the Western nations did. Life for the common people has always been a struggle and they live and die at the whim and whimsy of their rulers. They've had brief moments of hope but have quickly returned to the comfortable embrace of despotism.

The Russians prefer to be ruled by despots. They abhor liberty and freedom as the symptoms of weaker people. People who deserve to be conquered by Russians.
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Russia may have been normal by global norms but they never had a period of enlightenment as the Western nations did. Life for the common people has always been a struggle and they live and die at the whim and whimsy of their rulers. They've had brief moments of hope but have quickly returned to the comfortable embrace of despotism.

The Russians prefer to be ruled by despots. They abhor liberty and freedom as the symptoms of weaker people. People who deserve to be conquered by Russians.
Is there any society around today that doesn't meet that criteria, though? We Americans used to not be like that, but I'm no longer convinced that's so.
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Russia, pre Soviet Union, was a normal country

But ever since the Commies took over, it's been a malicious monster






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Some of us remember the last time Trump paused aid to Ukraine...
10:31 PM · Mar 3, 2025

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Most of us remember you lying about Russian collusion. I don't think Biden gave you a preemptive pardon for that. 🤔🤔
11:36 PM · Mar 3, 2025

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Some of us remember when Biden threatened to pause aid to Ukraine unless they fired the prosecutor investigating the company paying his son.
8:01 AM · Mar 4, 2025

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Biden: I’ll withhold aid unless you stop investigating my corrupt junkie son.
Trump: I’m pulling aid because you’re trying to drag us into WWIII.
But Trump is somehow the bad guy to these morons.
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Some of us remember the last time Trump paused aid to Ukraine...
10:31 PM · Mar 3, 2025

Kim
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Most of us remember you lying about Russian collusion. I don't think Biden gave you a preemptive pardon for that. 🤔🤔
11:36 PM · Mar 3, 2025

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Some of us remember when Biden threatened to pause aid to Ukraine unless they fired the prosecutor investigating the company paying his son.
8:01 AM · Mar 4, 2025

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Biden: I’ll withhold aid unless you stop investigating my corrupt junkie son.
Trump: I’m pulling aid because you’re trying to drag us into WWIII.
But Trump is somehow the bad guy to these morons.
8:14 AM · Mar 4, 2025

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In 2013-2014, the United States orchestrated a violent coup that toppled Ukraine’s democratically elected government, which led to the ousting of President Yanukovych.

Events that followed:

> April 16, 2014: VP Biden meets with Devon Archer at the White House.
> April 21, 2014: VP Biden visits Ukraine and becomes U.S. policy face.
> April 22, 2014: Archer joins Burisma’s board.
> April 28, 2014: British officials seized $23M from Burisma’s owner.
> May 12, 2014: Hunter Biden joins Burisma’s board, and both were paid millions.

In 2019, an investigation revealed that the Obama administration knew Hunter Biden’s position on Burisma’s board was problematic and interfered with U.S. policy in Ukraine.  ...

https://twitter.com/therealZNO/status/1811162749839495472
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JD Vance: European Leaders Sound Very Different on Ukraine War in Private

Leaders “puff up their chests” and say they back perma-war in public but are honest about the need to end it quickly in private, Vance said.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/03/04/jd-vance-euro-leaders-sound-very-different-on-ukraine-war-in-private/
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In 2013-2014, the United States orchestrated a violent coup that toppled Ukraine’s democratically elected government, which led to the ousting of President Yanukovych.

Events that followed:

> April 16, 2014: VP Biden meets with Devon Archer at the White House.
> April 21, 2014: VP Biden visits Ukraine and becomes U.S. policy face.
> April 22, 2014: Archer joins Burisma’s board.
> April 28, 2014: British officials seized $23M from Burisma’s owner.
> May 12, 2014: Hunter Biden joins Burisma’s board, and both were paid millions.

In 2019, an investigation revealed that the Obama administration knew Hunter Biden’s position on Burisma’s board was problematic and interfered with U.S. policy in Ukraine.  ...

https://twitter.com/therealZNO/status/1811162749839495472

Do they mean Obama did it? Because he was president at the time.

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Do you have an actual argument countering what was posted here?

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Please stop stalking me.  You may mean it as a compliment, but I find it annoying.  Thanks very much.

If I were stalking you I'd know your real name, your address, where you work, who your family are, your criminal convictions (if any), and I'd identify you on any other social media.

I am not joking.

The reason I do not know any of these things about you is because you're just not interesting enough to me to invest the time in learning them.

That said, I am not stalking you and therefore the drama you would falsely accuse someone else of engaging in is in fact something that you are engaging in.

This is called projection.
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