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Re: Israel launches preemptive strike on Iranian nuclear sites, military targets
« Reply #350 on: June 15, 2025, 10:11:46 pm »
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Re: Israel launches preemptive strike on Iranian nuclear sites, military targets
« Reply #351 on: June 15, 2025, 10:15:38 pm »
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Depth of the Fordow Facility:

The facility is built inside a mountain, near the village of Fordow (about 30 km south of the city of Qom).

It is estimated to be located about 80–100 meters underground, inside rocky terrain.

The Iranians defined it as capable of withstanding conventional air bombings- therefore it is underground and heavily fortified.

The site was previously used for uranium enrichment up to 20%.

After the 2015 nuclear agreement (JCPOA), enrichment there stopped, and the facility was converted for research purposes - but Iran resumed high-level uranium enrichment there, especially after the U.S. withdrew from the agreement in 2018.

According to the IAEA, uranium is currently enriched there up to 60% - very close to weapons-grade level.

Attack considerations:

Due to its depth and the surrounding mountainous structure, bombing Fordow is considered very technically challenging and requires:

- Bunker-busting bombs (e.g., GBU-57)
- Other tactics, such as physical infiltration, cyberattacks, or sabotage from within.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Israeli forces physically reach the facility and eliminate everything there.



https://x.com/israelnewspulse/status/1934415631983522028
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Re: Israel launches preemptive strike on Iranian nuclear sites, military targets
« Reply #352 on: June 15, 2025, 10:19:41 pm »
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Re: Israel launches preemptive strike on Iranian nuclear sites, military targets
« Reply #353 on: June 15, 2025, 10:19:44 pm »
Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on June 15, 2025, 08:52:30 pm
Yes, everytime.

Religious fanatics are the truly scary ones as they believe they are on a mission from god and be willing to die for him.
That's why so many countries in the world are terrified of Iran getting nuclear weapons. Mutually Assured Destruction theory does not work on the mullahs. They WANT Armageddon. They WANT the end of the world. No matter how many billions have to die for it.
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If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
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Re: Israel launches preemptive strike on Iranian nuclear sites, military targets
« Reply #354 on: June 15, 2025, 10:21:18 pm »
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Re: Israel launches preemptive strike on Iranian nuclear sites, military targets
« Reply #355 on: June 15, 2025, 10:24:03 pm »
Ian Ellis
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🚨 U.S. Navy repositioning assets to defend Israel

- Destroyer USS Thomas Hudner (DDG 116) moving to the eastern Med
- 8 additional destroyers available in 5th + 6th Fleets
- Vinson CSG still in CENTCOM (Nimitz CSG in INDOPACOM could be redirected)

Tracking at least 26 ships:



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Re: Israel launches preemptive strike on Iranian nuclear sites, military targets
« Reply #356 on: June 15, 2025, 10:27:56 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on June 14, 2025, 08:22:34 pm
Trump gave Iran 60 days to negotiate and they refused. On day 61, Bibi unleashed Hell.  I don't see the problem.

For one thing, the US switched its demand to zero enrichment (at the behest of our Israeli overlords) after the Iranians had spent something like $100 billion on a nuclear program.  Iran was never going to agree to that.  Try to imagine how our behavior is perceived.  We "altered" the previous deal, à la Darth Vader, and then we created tension by setting an artificial deadline to meet an unreasonable demand.  Meanwhile, we operate nuclear power plants and sell our oil on the world market.  But we have always been a benevolent superpower, you might say.  Well, some folks in Japan might disagree.  We looked the other way when Israel acquired nukes (some of which were possibly stolen from us).  The Israeli government is an existential threat to the Iranian state in its present form, and they have made this clear. 

Let's assume, as is now sadly more likely than ever, the Iranians do pursue nuclear weapons.  It isn't at all obvious that they will explode them on foreign soil.  Iran is the home of an ancient civilization dating back thousands of years, and can grasp the concept of mutually assured destruction.  We tend to assume all islamists are suicidal, and that isn't the case.  Is this an outcome we should seek to avoid, by all means yes, but there was room to work with the Iranians without resorting to war.
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Re: Israel launches preemptive strike on Iranian nuclear sites, military targets
« Reply #357 on: June 15, 2025, 10:33:38 pm »
As Iran-Israel Conflict Escalates, Battered Hezbollah Stays Out of Fight

Tom O'Connor  |  Jun 13, 2025  |  Updated at 12:48 PM EDT

A Hezbollah spokesperson told Newsweek on Friday that the Lebanese group remains committed to a ceasefire agreement with Israel after the country launched a sweeping series of attacks against Iran.

"Hezbollah is committed to the ceasefire agreement, even though Israel has not respected this commitment over the past period," the spokesperson said. "It continues to kill, assassinate, and attack areas, including entering border villages and remaining at the five points."

Reuters also cited a Hezbollah official on Friday as saying that the group "will not initiate its own attack on Israel in retaliation for Israel's strike."  .  .  .

https://www.newsweek.com/iran-israel-conflict-escalates-battered-hezbollah-stays-out-fight-2085115
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Re: Israel launches preemptive strike on Iranian nuclear sites, military targets
« Reply #358 on: June 15, 2025, 10:34:10 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on June 14, 2025, 05:39:28 pm
I'm still not convinced Trump green-lighted the Israeli attack on Iran @cato potatoe   I know what he's saying now, but this is part US face-saving and part negotiations-saving,  IMHO. 

Your points are well taken, but at the same time, we deserve to know if Netanyahu went rogue.
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Re: Israel launches preemptive strike on Iranian nuclear sites, military targets
« Reply #359 on: June 15, 2025, 10:35:51 pm »
USS Nimitz cancelled docking in SE Asia and is now heading towards Middle East.
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Re: Israel launches preemptive strike on Iranian nuclear sites, military targets
« Reply #360 on: June 15, 2025, 11:04:51 pm »
Quote from: cato potatoe on June 15, 2025, 10:34:10 pm
Your points are well taken, but at the same time, we deserve to know if Netanyahu went rogue.

What part of "Iran cannot have nuclear weapons" isn't clear?

Trump said that.

They were given 60 days to come to a resolution towards that end. They rejected it.

There's no wiggle room in that statement.
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Re: Israel launches preemptive strike on Iranian nuclear sites, military targets
« Reply #361 on: June 15, 2025, 11:42:22 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on June 15, 2025, 07:52:50 pm
Make no mistake, Israel has people on the ground in Iran who are privy to everything.

@Bigun And it's been an utter thing of beauty to watch.
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