So That’s Why Ted Cruz Scrambled To Write A Bill That Ended Child Separation

[Jazzhead]

 

....shut your mouth!

 

[dfwgator]

You know, you're right!   My views have been disparaged because I'm from Pennsy, apparently not as overrun by those bad, bad immigrants as Texas.   But Texans don't like to see parents separated from their kids either.   

Who'd have thunk?

Why can't Mexico take care of them,  it is the first country these immigrants enter.  It should be their responsibility, not ours.

[GrouchoTex]

You know, you're right!   My views have been disparaged because I'm from Pennsy, apparently not as overrun by those bad, bad immigrants as Texas.   But Texans don't like to see parents separated from their kids either.   

Who'd have thunk?

@Jazzhead

When it truly is their children, and they are not paying coyotes to bring children over, to make it more likely to grant catch and release, sure keep them together, why not?
You know, like when the real families come up to the legal ports of entry and want asylum, oh, wait.....


But, hey, catch and release is back now, so you and @Once-Ler can now go celebrate.

Whether or not those kids are their own, of course doesn't really matter, right?
Just as long as our "moderate" hearts are in the right place.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

@Jazzhead

When it truly is their children, and they are not paying coyotes to bring children over, to make it more likely to grant catch and release, sure keep them together, why not?
You know, like when the real families come up to the legal ports of entry and want asylum, oh, wait.....

You mean when their told "we're full...go away?"

But, hey, catch and release is back now, so you and @Once-Ler can now go celebrate.

Thanx but I don't need your permission.

Whether or not those kids are their own, of course doesn't really matter, right?
Just as long as our "moderate" hearts are in the right place.

Perhaps the child will now be able to lean over to a guard and say "that ain't my dad," rather than getting shipped to where ever the child smuggler wanted the child shipped to.

[GrouchoTex]

You mean when their told "we're full...go away?"

Yep, sure, going through non-legal ports of entry guarantees that you are correct, that they are being told "go away. we're full"
How would they know? They don't go their to hear it.


Thanx but I don't need your permission.

I know, if you did, you'd just run the border and do it anyway, LOL

Perhaps the child will now be able to lean over to a guard and say "that ain't my dad," rather than getting shipped to where ever the child smuggler wanted the child shipped to.

...or keep the sex trafficker together the whole time, which you seem to think is a better scenario for the child somehow?

[WingNot]

....shut your mouth!

But I'm talkin' about CyberShaft

[Formerly Once-Ler]

...or keep the sex trafficker together the whole time, which you seem to think is a better scenario for the child somehow?

Sex trafficker locked up and under supervision might not seem better to you, but at least the child is less likely to be abused, and much less likely to be murdered after being abused.

I think it is likely some children were sent to places where they were not cared for.  https://www.texastribune.org/2018/06/20/separated-migrant-children-are-headed-toward-shelters-history-abuse-an/

Last year, a youth care worker at a Florida shelter for migrant children was sentenced to 10 years in prison after she admitted to trading sexually explicit photos and text messages with minors at the shelter. That facility later closed but recently reopened under a more than $30 million contract to house 1,000 children.

In New York, a Guatemalan boy was sexually assaulted by an older boy at a shelter in 2013, according to a doctor’s report, and was treated at a hospital. After he was reunited with his mother, she received a hospital bill but, she later said, was told only that there had been “an incident with a boy.”

At a facility in Maine run by a behavioral and mental health nonprofit, a social worker remained on the job for months after state regulators received a complaint in 2016 accusing him of having sex with an adult client.

but it least it was blessed by God genuine American abuse.  lucky kids.

[GrouchoTex]

Sex trafficker locked up and under supervision might not seem better to you, but at least the child is less likely to be abused, and much less likely to be murdered after being abused.

I think it is likely some children were sent to places where they were not cared for.  https://www.texastribune.org/2018/06/20/separated-migrant-children-are-headed-toward-shelters-history-abuse-an/

but it least it was blessed by God genuine American abuse.  lucky kids.

That whole scenario, locked up with your smuggler, or away from your honest family,  just sucks, admittedly no real good answer here.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

You paint a far better outlook than my gloom and doom.
If 5 years from now, you come back and say "I told you so", it would better a better world than if I came back to you and said it.
I'll take that I told you so.
I hope you're right but I fear you may not be.
You have a lot more faith in the people coming in illegally than I do, that is a given.

 

[Formerly Once-Ler]

That whole scenario, locked up with your smuggler, or away from your honest family,  just sucks, admittedly no real good answer here.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Agreed.

You paint a far better outlook than my gloom and doom.
If 5 years from now, you come back and say "I told you so", it would better a better world than if I came back to you and said it.
I'll take that I told you so.
I hope you're right but I fear you may not be.
You have a lot more faith in the people coming in illegally than I do, that is a given.

 

[Cyber Liberty]

That whole scenario, locked up with your smuggler, or away from your honest family,  just sucks, admittedly no real good answer here.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I think we should force "parents" to prove the children with them are in fact, their children.  We can order saliva tests that would clear during the waiting time, and if they are not their children, simply convert the charges from Illegally Immigrating to Kidnapping.  Instead of catch and likely release, they'll be looking at a long stretch in a High Security Prison. 

If the real parents can be located in the US, charge them with Child Endangerment.

[Fishrrman]

dfwgator wrote:
"Only a matter of time before Texas turns blue, Demographics is Destiny."

Yes, sorry to say -- just a matter of time. I would give Texas 20 years, 30 at the most.

Isn't there a chunk of the state, inland along the border, that has already gone "solid blue"?

My suggestion:
Take this "blue area" and cede it back to Mexico.
Yes, that's right.
In effect, relocate the border somewhat north of the Rio Grande.
Then -- BUILD A HUGE WALL.
Much easier to build if it's not along the river.
And we'll be rid of "blue Texas", or at least hold the rest of it back for a while.

(And yes, I openly advocate ceding back southern California to Mexico. Again, get rid of it, build a wall to isolate it. America will become more conservative WITHOUT it!)

[corbe]

   TEXAS as a geography has been repealing invaders since the early 1700's, Spaniards, Brits, French and now a corrupt Gov to the South, we kicked their azz too, Thank You Tennessee.  We really didn't start to have problems until we gave up our sovereign Republic to the US in 1845.

   Preposterous, @Fishrrman other than what the Feds eminent domain for the Trump Wall, not another inch to anyone....