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So That’s Why Ted Cruz Scrambled To Write A Bill That Ended Child Separation
« on: June 21, 2018, 06:21:56 pm »
SOURCE: HOTAIR

URL: https://hotair.com/archives/2018/06/21/thats-ted-cruz-scrambled-write-bill-ended-child-separation/

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Hoo boy. I figured the polling on Trump’s policy would be bad in Texas, being both a border state with a large Latino minority and a red state where his job approval hasn’t traditionally been sky high.

I didn’t think it’d be this bad.

Note that the Texas Tribune’s poll of the state was conducted from June 8-15. The national media uproar didn’t really get rolling until this week, *after* the poll was finished. If you re-polled today, after days of brutal coverage, the numbers might be worse — considerably worse? — than this. Cruz’s private pollsters must have been setting off air-raid sirens in his office to get him to move so quickly on drafting a bill to end child separation.

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Overall, 28 percent of Texas voters support the practice — 16 percent strongly so — while 57 percent oppose it — 44 percent strongly so…

The partisan gap was striking. While 83 percent of Democratic voters oppose separation of parents and children at the border, only 46 percent of independents and 35 percent of Republicans were opposed. A plurality of Republicans — 46 percent — said they support the practice; among independents and Democrats, opponents outnumbered supporters…

While 56 percent of Republican men favor splitting parents and children at illegal entry points on the border and 30 percent oppose it, a plurality of Republican women are against the practice: 37 percent favor it and 42 percent oppose it.

A Republican incumbent running for reelection in Texas has a wide margin for error but not an infinite one. Cruz is up nine points in the RCP average — comfortable, but not let-down-your-guard comfortable, particularly against someone like Beto O’Rourke who’s proved he’s capable of winning congressional elections.

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Re: So That’s Why Ted Cruz Scrambled To Write A Bill That Ended Child Separation
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2018, 06:23:02 pm »
Only a matter of time before Texas turns blue, Demographics is Destiny.
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Re: So That’s Why Ted Cruz Scrambled To Write A Bill That Ended Child Separation
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2018, 06:24:30 pm »
Sigh. It wasn't 'Trump's policy'.

It-was-the-law.
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Re: So That’s Why Ted Cruz Scrambled To Write A Bill That Ended Child Separation
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2018, 06:33:49 pm »
That is so weird because I was told recently that the border states see illegal immigration differently than the fly over states. 
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Re: So That’s Why Ted Cruz Scrambled To Write A Bill That Ended Child Separation
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2018, 07:24:12 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on June 21, 2018, 06:33:49 pm
That is so weird because I was told recently that the border states see illegal immigration differently than the fly over states.

It's a good thing you don't respect what I write, or I'd think you were referring to me. 
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Re: So That’s Why Ted Cruz Scrambled To Write A Bill That Ended Child Separation
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2018, 07:28:10 pm »
I made mention the Cruz must have seen Paddy Seamus Bless me Lucky Charms O'Rourke gaining in the polls. 
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Re: So That’s Why Ted Cruz Scrambled To Write A Bill That Ended Child Separation
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2018, 07:28:50 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on June 21, 2018, 07:24:12 pm
It's a good thing you don't respect what I write, or I'd think you were referring to me.

Nah.  It couldn't be.   :cool:
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Re: So That’s Why Ted Cruz Scrambled To Write A Bill That Ended Child Separation
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2018, 07:39:33 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on June 21, 2018, 07:28:50 pm
Nah.  It couldn't be.   :cool:

Well, I was referring to how the idiots like me in flyover land object to the catch and release, and this story goes on (an on) about separating kids from their kidnappers "Parents." Apples vs Oranges.  And he'd never do that to an opinion he respected.

So, yeah come to think of it, it probably WAS me he was rubbishing.
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Re: So That’s Why Ted Cruz Scrambled To Write A Bill That Ended Child Separation
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2018, 07:40:21 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on June 21, 2018, 07:28:10 pm
I made mention the Cruz must have seen Paddy Seamus Bless me Lucky Charms O'Rourke gaining in the polls.

No, the opposite is true.
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Re: So That’s Why Ted Cruz Scrambled To Write A Bill That Ended Child Separation
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2018, 07:42:00 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on June 21, 2018, 07:24:12 pm
It's a good thing you don't respect what I write, or I'd think you were referring to me.

I'm not sure how you got that impression @Cyber Liberty .  At the risk of sounding disrespectful, it's not correct.  The fact that I chose to respond to you should indicate I believe you make logical and compelling points.  I have no animosity towards you and I appreciate your efforts to challenge me.  I have a great deal of respect for your intellect and your ability to express your thoughts.   :beer:
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Re: So That’s Why Ted Cruz Scrambled To Write A Bill That Ended Child Separation
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2018, 07:43:49 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on June 21, 2018, 07:40:21 pm
No, the opposite is true.

It is Good to be wrong for a change.  Whens the election again?
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Re: So That’s Why Ted Cruz Scrambled To Write A Bill That Ended Child Separation
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2018, 07:49:35 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on June 21, 2018, 07:42:00 pm
I'm not sure how you got that impression @Cyber Liberty .  At the risk of sounding disrespectful, it's not correct.  The fact that I chose to respond to you should indicate I believe you make logical and compelling points.  I have no animosity towards you and I appreciate your efforts to challenge me.  I have a great deal of respect for your intellect and your ability to express your thoughts.   :beer:

I appreciate that much!  I was starting to develop a complex.  :beer:

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Re: So That’s Why Ted Cruz Scrambled To Write A Bill That Ended Child Separation
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2018, 07:50:57 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on June 21, 2018, 07:40:21 pm
No, the opposite is true.

That's what I thought.  This did not seem to be a desperation play on Cruz's part.
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Re: So That’s Why Ted Cruz Scrambled To Write A Bill That Ended Child Separation
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2018, 07:53:37 pm »
Here's a link to the University of Texas/Tribune article about the poll (The University supports the Tribune):  https://www.texastribune.org/2018/06/21/uttt-poll-most-texas-voters-oppose-family-separation-border-greater-su/

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“The numbers are pretty lopsided,” said Daron Shaw, co-director of the poll and a government professor at the University of Texas at Austin. “President Trump must’ve been looking at similar numbers. Someone pointed out that ‘You don’t have to be Ronald Reagan to see the power of those pictures.’ I think Trump understands that this is a political loser.”

The poll closed on Sunday night, before the president decided to revoke the policy and before many Texas Republican officeholders came out against the practice. Democratic politicians were getting a very clear signal, but for Republicans, it took some time to figure out what voters wanted, said Jim Henson, who co-directs the poll and runs the Texas Politics Project at UT-Austin. “It’s hard to take elite cues if you’re a Republican because there are so many viewpoints.”...

The University of Texas/Texas Tribune internet survey of 1,200 registered voters was conducted from June 8 to June 17 and has an overall margin of error of +/- 2.83 percentage points. Numbers in charts might not add up to 100 percent because of rounding.

And, here is how the samples were chosen:  https://static.texastribune.org/media/files/32741a7909b44fcebf3a27b45241bc31/ut-tt-2018-06-summary-day1.pdf
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Re: So That’s Why Ted Cruz Scrambled To Write A Bill That Ended Child Separation
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2018, 07:54:38 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on June 21, 2018, 07:43:49 pm
It is Good to be wrong for a change.  Whens the election again?

I'm just saying that this was not the desperate move the UT/Tribune made it out to be. 
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Re: So That’s Why Ted Cruz Scrambled To Write A Bill That Ended Child Separation
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2018, 08:01:40 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on June 21, 2018, 07:49:35 pm
I appreciate that much!  I was starting to develop a complex.  :beer:

 :laugh: :police:

He's a complicated man but no one understands him but his woman........

Can you dig it.
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Re: So That’s Why Ted Cruz Scrambled To Write A Bill That Ended Child Separation
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2018, 08:04:48 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on June 21, 2018, 07:39:33 pm
Well, I was referring to how the idiots like me in flyover land object to the catch and release, and this story goes on (an on) about separating kids from their kidnappers "Parents." Apples vs Oranges.  And he'd never do that to an opinion he respected.

So, yeah come to think of it, it probably WAS me he was rubbishing.

I'm figuring it was me, and I'm perfectly fine with that.
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Re: So That’s Why Ted Cruz Scrambled To Write A Bill That Ended Child Separation
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2018, 08:06:41 pm »
FYI

It was a UT/Texas Tribune poll...

You know....

AUSTIN

Say no more.
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Re: So That’s Why Ted Cruz Scrambled To Write A Bill That Ended Child Separation
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2018, 08:07:20 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on June 21, 2018, 08:01:40 pm
He's a complicated man but no one understands him but his woman........

Can you dig it.

Giving someone the shaft again, I see.
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Re: So That’s Why Ted Cruz Scrambled To Write A Bill That Ended Child Separation
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2018, 08:12:55 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on June 21, 2018, 08:01:40 pm
He's a complicated man but no one understands him but his woman........

Can you dig it.
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Re: So That’s Why Ted Cruz Scrambled To Write A Bill That Ended Child Separation
« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2018, 08:25:22 pm »
Quote from: GrouchoTex on June 21, 2018, 08:07:20 pm
Giving someone the shaft again, I see.

They say this cat Shaft is a bad mother...
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Re: So That’s Why Ted Cruz Scrambled To Write A Bill That Ended Child Separation
« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2018, 08:27:06 pm »
Quote from: dfwgator on June 21, 2018, 08:25:22 pm
They say this cat Shaft is a bad mother...

....shut your mouth!
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Re: So That’s Why Ted Cruz Scrambled To Write A Bill That Ended Child Separation
« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2018, 08:29:33 pm »
Quote from: GrouchoTex on June 21, 2018, 08:06:41 pm
FYI

It was a UT/Texas Tribune poll...

You know....

AUSTIN

Say no more.

I came close to pointing the same thing out to him..... but I figured... he already knows (too well).  So, I passed...lol.  But yeah.  Austin = leftists = BS poll.
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Re: So That’s Why Ted Cruz Scrambled To Write A Bill That Ended Child Separation
« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2018, 08:50:30 pm »
Here is another poll I see ( National, but I bet the State of Texas leans more conservative on average ):

URL: http://www.breitbart.com/2018-elections/2018/06/21/poll-shows-strong-support-for-trump-push-end-catch-and-release/

Poll: 3:1 Public Support for Trump’s Push to End Catch-and-Release

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Democrats are converting their emotional protests against “family separation” into unpopular calls for the catch-and-release of many Central American migrants into ordinary Americans’ jobsites and schools. The pre-election, pro-migration push is a huge risk, according to a poll by The Economist and YouGov which shows 3:1 public opposition to the Democrats’s catch-and-release policy. That opposition to catch-and-release was reinforced by President Donald Trump’s June 20 Executive Order to keep families together in detention until their appeal is decided by a judge.


There is a huge discrepancy between this Austin Poll and the economist/YouGove poll. Which one to believe?

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Re: So That’s Why Ted Cruz Scrambled To Write A Bill That Ended Child Separation
« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2018, 09:03:51 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on June 21, 2018, 06:33:49 pm
That is so weird because I was told recently that the border states see illegal immigration differently than the fly over states.

You know, you're right!   My views have been disparaged because I'm from Pennsy, apparently not as overrun by those bad, bad immigrants as Texas.   But Texans don't like to see parents separated from their kids either.   

Who'd have thunk?   
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