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Re: How a charismatic Christian movement aims to take over American culture
« Reply #75 on: March 21, 2017, 06:09:10 am »
@Chosen Daughter Excellent post, thank you!
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Re: How a charismatic Christian movement aims to take over American culture
« Reply #76 on: March 21, 2017, 12:59:30 pm »
@Chosen Daughter Excellent post, thank you!

Yeah that was a real find.  Inspiring to see the Love of the Lord for People who keep His Word.  Gives a total different perspective than the God haters who want to proclaim brutality.  Showing how most of the victories were given by God with hardly any weapons at all.

And I hope that Mescalone answers my questions about WW11.  I am very interested to find out where he is coming from.
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: How a charismatic Christian movement aims to take over American culture
« Reply #77 on: March 22, 2017, 12:31:22 am »
Yeah that was a real find.  Inspiring to see the Love of the Lord for People who keep His Word.  Gives a total different perspective than the God haters who want to proclaim brutality.  Showing how most of the victories were given by God with hardly any weapons at all.

And I hope that Mescalone answers my questions about WW11.  I am very interested to find out where he is coming from.

Why did we fight Hitler?
She asked me name my foe then. I said the need within some men to fight and kill their brothers without thought of Love or God. Ken Hensley

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Re: How a charismatic Christian movement aims to take over American culture
« Reply #78 on: March 22, 2017, 01:18:26 am »
Why did we fight Hitler?

I don't care why it was the right thing to do.  Unless you appreciate a Nazi Europe.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: How a charismatic Christian movement aims to take over American culture
« Reply #79 on: March 22, 2017, 01:20:12 am »
I don't care why it was the right thing to do.  Unless you appreciate a Nazi Europe.

The real reason I am asking is the thread I pinged you to.
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Re: How a charismatic Christian movement aims to take over American culture
« Reply #80 on: March 22, 2017, 01:45:39 am »
The real reason I am asking is the thread I pinged you to.

Lots of Muslims are converting to Christianity in the Middle East and Europe.  Truly amazing.  But there are always those media stories that Islam if the fastest growing religion.  It would be easy to keep extremist Islamic thugs from immigrating here.  Make it clear there is not any chance they can practice their form of hatred in America.  I have said this before.  They go where they can get their way.  Declare Sharia Law above all other laws.  Expect that they can enforce their barbaric laws on whatever country without opposition.  Look at images and video's of Islamic nuts in Europe advocating for Sharia Law. 

All we need to do is pass legislation against foreign law.  Several states have already done it.

As for what I think of Islam.  I hate Islam.  But it isn't just going to disappear.  We have to be serious about maintaining the freedom we love.  Enforcing the Constitution so that people aren't forced to hear call to prayer.  That it doesn't go unnoticed that there are cells of Muslims holding tribal law cases in this country.  Imposing their own law over our own.  Because that is what they want and once they get it they will enforce it on us all.

Total eye opener.  What Sharia patrols want for America

http://www.mrctv.org/blog/

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https://www.google.com/search?q=Muslims+advocating+sharia+in+Europe&rlz=1T4AURU_enUS517US518&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj5tsfVgenSAhVH-2MKHdA8CD8Q_AUICSgC&biw=1088&bih=426#spf=1

We wouldn't allow Nazism today we shouldn't allow Sharia either.  Shut them down and they will not come.
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: How a charismatic Christian movement aims to take over American culture
« Reply #81 on: March 24, 2017, 08:28:06 pm »
I'm no religious scholar, but yes, it is about becoming a priest. What were the sacrifices demanded by God? The first fruits, the best ram with no blemish, etc etc. Why would the priests be considered any differently - their lives were sacrifices, no? Leviticus is the book of rules for the Levites. Not really meant to apply to the other tribes. As you can tell by the rather "pick and mix" approach to that particular book that Christianity has taken.

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So is a disabled person somehow less than a person who isn't?  Are they no longer "the best"?  Is it not character that determines it?  Doesn't this differ from the NT teachings of Jesus?
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Re: How a charismatic Christian movement aims to take over American culture
« Reply #82 on: March 24, 2017, 08:34:35 pm »
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So is a disabled person somehow less than a person who isn't?  Are they no longer "the best"?  Is it not character that determines it?  Doesn't this differ from the NT teachings of Jesus?

Significantly different. The Pentateuch (Torah) is the rules for God's chosen people. New Testament is the rules for ALL humanity. What my priest says, anyways.
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Re: How a charismatic Christian movement aims to take over American culture
« Reply #83 on: March 24, 2017, 08:46:33 pm »
Why did we fight Hitler?
We were not formally involved with WWII until the Japs bombed Pearl Harbor, and Hitler declared war against us.

We had given a good amount of assistance to the allies, including planes. But the were flown by "Canadians*" to Britain.

The reason we were not formally involved before Pearl Harbor, was isolationist public opinion. We had lost 116,000+ dead in WWI. Americans didn't want to get into yet another European conflict.

There are thousands of books. One of the very best is "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich," by William Shirer.

Reading the true history of wars dispels much of the moral banter. Wars are wars.

*Some being Americans that joined the Canadian forces.

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Re: How a charismatic Christian movement aims to take over American culture
« Reply #84 on: March 24, 2017, 09:02:15 pm »
We were not formally involved with WWII until the Japs bombed Pearl Harbor, and Hitler declared war against us.

We had given a good amount of assistance to the allies, including planes. But the were flown by "Canadians*" to Britain.

The reason we were not formally involved before Pearl Harbor, was isolationist public opinion. We had lost 116,000+ dead in WWI. Americans didn't want to get into yet another European conflict.

There are thousands of books. One of the very best is "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich," by William Shirer.

Reading the true history of wars dispels much of the moral banter. Wars are wars.

*Some being Americans that joined the Canadian forces.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rise_and_Fall_of_the_Third_Reich
IIRC, there was an "Eagle squadron" of Americans who joined the RAF, too--and risked their citizenship to do so, as did those who joined the Canadians.
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Re: How a charismatic Christian movement aims to take over American culture
« Reply #85 on: March 24, 2017, 09:04:58 pm »
The reason we were not formally involved before Pearl Harbor, was isolationist public opinion. We had lost 116,000+ dead in WWI. Americans didn't want to get into yet another European conflict.

Yes, Republicans under the "America First" banner.
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Re: How a charismatic Christian movement aims to take over American culture
« Reply #86 on: March 24, 2017, 09:08:19 pm »
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So is a disabled person somehow less than a person who isn't?  Are they no longer "the best"?  Is it not character that determines it?  Doesn't this differ from the NT teachings of Jesus?

It is not that a disabled person is 'less' than another person, it is that there was a physical picture being presented of a spiritual truth that Christ fulfilled and became.  The Levitical Priesthood was a physical type of picture God was showing His Nation, of the Servants at the Throne of God.  We cannot comprehend spiritual things, because we are physical - so God uses physical illustrations to typify the Truth.   The priests were not to be deformed or with 'blemish' because they were a type of physical picture of the perfect ministry Christ would fulfill in serving all Mankind.  Sin is a blemish, an imperfection.  It is why the Hebrews were to take in a perfect lamb without blemish at the Passover - because the lamb they slaughtered and put on the doorposts was a physical picture of what Christ was going to do for all, in terms of protecting us from eternal death - which is what sin earns us all.

Character is indeed important - because that is the ONLY thing that goes back to God.  Our flesh and bones rot - they are nothing but dust.  But the character you develop - in terms of putting on the mind of God - THAT is what lasts for eternity, and THAT is what God is interested in, and what we should be interested in.
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Re: How a charismatic Christian movement aims to take over American culture
« Reply #87 on: March 24, 2017, 09:44:36 pm »
If the reason we fought Hitler, ultimately, was to stop his idea of totaltarianism then think about it.

If you are opposed to totalitarianism, then moslems--islam should not be allowed in this country. Period.

I view charismatic Christianity as a pagan Christianity and should be viewed with the same rules. Limited in its reach as any other extremist ideology.

Probably all a moot point as people get more sucked into the technology web. People so addicted to technology they lose their humanity. I don't view the suggested new paradigm(s) of transhumanism as a good thing. People haven't proved themselves very good at being people and now in an ever increasing probability, they are going to enhance that inability exponentially.

Having yourself surgically attached to your smartphone is right around the corner.

I could be wrong, but being caught up in the clouds didn't mean having yourself uploaded into the one world order database.

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Re: How a charismatic Christian movement aims to take over American culture
« Reply #88 on: March 24, 2017, 10:37:17 pm »
Probably all a moot point as people get more sucked into the technology web. People so addicted to technology they lose their humanity. I don't view the suggested new paradigm(s) of transhumanism as a good thing. People haven't proved themselves very good at being people and now in an ever increasing probability, they are going to enhance that inability exponentially.

Having yourself surgically attached to your smartphone is right around the corner.

I could be wrong, but being caught up in the clouds didn't mean having yourself uploaded into the one world order database.
All I can say is that there really will be a ringing in their ears and voices in their heads... So far the former has been a nuisance, the latter often doesn't work out so well...
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Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis