The Briefing Room
General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: libertybele on November 12, 2022, 11:21:55 pm
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Ron DeSantis is the new Republican Party leader
The biggest winner of the midterm elections was, without a doubt, Governor Ron DeSantis, whose landslide victory in the state of Florida was breathtaking.
The biggest loser? Donald Trump, whose handpicked loyalist candidates in a number of races struggled to beat vulnerable Democrats. Once again, the former president may have cost Republicans control of the Senate, in a year when it was theirs to lose.
Many will conclude, on the basis of the midterm 2022 results, that the Republican Party is ready to move on, without Donald Trump as its leader.
DeSantis scored a win in Florida that was one for the record books. In Miami-Dade County, a region which President Joe Biden won by 16 percentage points in 2020, the popular governor won easily. Not only was the margin of victory astounding in itself, it also reinforced an emerging reality: Hispanic voters may be shifting their long-term alliance to Republicans.
DeSantis won because he embraced Trumpian policies, stood firm against the woke mob, led his state through the pandemic with brilliance and, more recently, managed the horrific damage done by Hurricane Ian with great competence. Florida residents rewarded the popular governor by re-electing him with roughly a 19-point margin over his opponent, Democrat Charlie Crist.
On the heels of his win, DeSantis delivered a barnburner victory speech, laying down markers for what will surely be a run for president in 2024 and declaring, "I have only begun to fight."
For Donald Trump, the election proved to be, using Barack Obama’s word, a shellacking. In Pennsylvania, Dr. Mehmet Oz, handpicked by Trump to represent the GOP in defending a seat being vacated by retiring Sen. Pat Toomey, lost to Lt. Gov. John Fetterman. Fetterman suffered a stroke early in the contest, but even as his ability to campaign was severely curtailed, he beat out the celebrity doctor.
That was not the only bitter disappointment for Republicans. In New Hampshire, incumbent Sen. Maggie Hassan, thought to be the most vulnerable Democrat running for re-election, survived to keep her seat. Her rival, retired Gen. Dan Bolduc, was another Trump-endorsed candidate who had little political experience. Bolduc was considered a long shot and not heavily supported by the GOP establishment, but polling showed him closing in during the final weeks of the race.
In Arizona, similarly, Senate candidate Blake Masters, another Trump pick, failed to beat out Democrat incumbent Mark Kelly. Masters was also a political neophyte who had come from behind in recent weeks. He was buoyed by yet another Trump acolyte, gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake, whose race against Democrat Katie Hobbs is too close to call. ....................
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/ron-desantis-new-republican-party-leader
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Excellent speech by DeSantis! :patriot: Just a note: the ending vote count was DeSantis 59% an Crist 40.3%
It is worth watching. :)
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Ron is stuck in loser Trumps Craw.
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Ron is stuck in loser Trumps Craw.
Hopefully Ron will rise above Trump's crappola and won't engage him. If Ron doesn't respond it will only drive Donald off the rails and he will continue to self-destruct.
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Hopefully Ron will rise above Trump's crappola and won't engage him. If Ron doesn't respond it will only drive Donald off the rails and he will continue to self-destruct.
Exactly. Trumpy hate being ignored. If Ron ignores Trump, he will go nuts.
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As De Santis hasn't gone through the vicious demonization scourging Trump has gone through. Its real early and unwise to dance on Trumps grave and declare Santis as a God coming to save us. Smacks of what a lock-stepping Democrat would brazenly and proudly do.
To many facade Conservatives have surfaced with the Republicans in serious trouble, to brag about democrat victory and Republican losses. To those not blind and stupid, they are now showing you who they really are. Wolves in sheep's clothing.
:smokin: :smokin: :smokin:
Soros rent a hos are even here.
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Hopefully Ron will rise above Trump's crappola and won't engage him. If Ron doesn't respond it will only drive Donald off the rails and he will continue to self-destruct.
RDS will follow McConnell's instructions - or he's out.
But that's okay, because, you know, he won relection in Florida.
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RDS will follow McConnell's instructions - or he's out.
But that's okay, because, you know, he won relection in Florida.
What an odd post. :shrug:
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What an odd post. :shrug:
Agreed. Odd indeed but I'm not surprised. Emotions are running pretty high.
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RDS will follow McConnell's instructions - or he's out.
McConnell is 80 years old and increasingly unlikely to retain his position as minority leader. If this happens he may resign his seat altogether. Kentucky recently passed a law to forbid the democrat governor from replacing him with anyone other than a republican. Of course he could appoint the biggest RINO he can find. Beshear is up for reelection in 2023 --- so Mitch may hang around until early 2024.
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@cato potatoe You haven't a clue how any of this works or how deeply entrenched it is. But, you may be the one who's better off. :shrug:
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RDS will follow McConnell's instructions - or he's out.
But that's okay, because, you know, he won relection in Florida.
He wins re-elections, unlike Trump.
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What an odd post. :shrug:
RIV is in top form tonight, here and on TOS... :rolling:
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RDS will follow McConnell's instructions - or he's out.
Would you please stop lying about DeSantis? On second thought, just stop lying about everything.
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@cato potatoe You haven't a clue how any of this works or how deeply entrenched it is. But, you may be the one who's better off. :shrug:
Better off is a legitimate question, but clueless is exactly spot on.
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Would you please stop lying about DeSantis? On second thought, just stop lying about everything.
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888mouth
wink777
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RIV is in top form tonight, here and on TOS... :rolling:
22chief
tri22
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Just to be clear, @Right_in_Virginia has forgotten more about the ins and outs of what is really happening within the beltway, than you would ever be able to comprehend in a dozen lifetimes.
You are far from her league.
:yowsa:
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Just to be clear, @Right_in_Virginia has forgotten more about the ins and outs of what is really happening within the beltway, than you would ever be able to comprehend in a dozen lifetimes.
You are far from her league.
:yowsa:
Thank you @art.prout Very much.
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Agreed. Odd indeed but I'm not surprised. Emotions are running pretty high.
I suspect my post appears odd to you precisely because it is not emotion-based @libertybele
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I suspect my post appears odd to you precisely because it is not emotion-based @libertybele
But the fact is many of your responses are emotionally-based. You’re lashing out at individual posters
Of course you don’t see it. But the rest of us do
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RIV is in top form tonight, here and on TOS... :rolling:
TOS?
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TOS?
The Other Site.
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But the fact is many of your responses are emotionally-based. You’re lashing out at individual posters
Of course you don’t see it. But the rest of us do
Your gang is calling me a liar and stalking me on other forums so you can ridicule me on this one ----- and you accuse me of being "emotional" and "lashing out"? You simply cannot be serious @LMAO
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Your gang is calling me a liar and stalking me on other forums so you can ridicule me on this one ----- and you accuse me of being "emotional" and "lashing out"? You simply cannot be serious LMAO
Lol
Well, I don’t know who my “gang” is nor have I ever called you a liar, ridiculed you, or stalked you but you were the one who made the claim that your posts are not emotional based when in fact they very much are
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Your gang is calling me a liar and stalking me on other forums so you can ridicule me on this one ----- and you accuse me of being "emotional" and "lashing out"? You simply cannot be serious @LMAO
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We are "The Little Rascal's" Gang. Jus a bunch of lovable scallywags' and "Our Gang" of Mischief Makers.
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Your gang is calling me a liar and stalking me on other forums so you can ridicule me on this one ----- and you accuse me of being "emotional" and "lashing out"? You simply cannot be serious @LMAO
I agree 100% @Right_in_Virginia. While I sometimes disagree with you (surprise!), I would never call you a liar. That is a caustic aspersion which is not helpful to any discussion. Using it here, in this way and on this site, is just wrong.
@Hoodat
@LMAO
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I agree 100% @Right_in_Virginia. While I sometimes disagree with you (surprise!), I would never call you a liar. That is a caustic aspersion which is not helpful to any discussion. Using it here, in this way and on this site, is just wrong.
@Hoodat
@LMAO
I will always treasure @Right_in_Virginia 's presence here, as we together manned the 2020 Election thread early that morning and watched and documented an election steal in "REAL TIME".
What we saw iced the fact that "election denying" is utter bullshit. The "denying" are the ones complicit and supporting election ballot collection, counting, and reporting corruption. There is no doubt, and I am 100% sure this is the clear and present danger to any further fair elections. Sadly, the dims are joyous and giddy that they not only got away with it in 2020, but have pulled it off again 2022.
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I agree 100% @Right_in_Virginia. While I sometimes disagree with you (surprise!), I would never call you a liar. That is a caustic aspersion which is not helpful to any discussion. Using it here, in this way and on this site, is just wrong.
@Hoodat
@LMAO
@Lando Lincoln
Why did you ping me? I’ve never called anybody a liar or ridiculed anybody for their stances.
I just simply responded to the claim of not having emotionally-based responses when in fact they were. I understand we all have to defend our egos which causes us to become emotional and lash out at others when we feel we are being attacked. And I personally have no desire to follow somebody on another forum to harass them. Whoever does that needs to stop. Heated discussions are one thing. But you don’t have to make it personal. I get this election was a huge disappointment and I think we’re all emotional right now.
I do not think Trump should be the 2024 nominee. I think that would increase Biden’s and the Democrats chances of victory. If someone disagrees that’s fine. We’re not gonna change each other’s minds and ultimately, despite that difference I have with Trump supporters, we want the same things for this country
And maybe I’ll be proven wrong. Trump may get the nomination and win in a landslide.
I think we are all worried about the direction of the country. And it isn’t just us. It seems people outside our little bubble of conservatism also agree. So it does hurt that Republicans didn’t do as well as they should have. Because we know without any real buffer against Joe Biden and his merry band of leftists, we’re all going to suffer
At some point, the wounds will heal and will have to move on. That’s when the real fight will begin and even the worst of storms eventually pass.
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Just to be clear, @Right_in_Virginia has forgotten more about the ins and outs of what is really happening within the beltway, than you would ever be able to comprehend in a dozen lifetimes.
You are far from her league.
:yowsa:
@art.prout
@Right_in_Virginia
RIV is knowledgeable and spirited, I’ll say that for her. She’s a valuable resource here. I get insights from her about issues and politicians I don’t get from the politburo media. But, to be honest I could say the same for many people here. TBR is all I need to stay updated; and staying informed today is more important than ever.
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I will always treasure @Right_in_Virginia 's presence here, as we together manned the 2020 Election thread early that morning and watched and documented an election steal in "REAL TIME".
What we saw iced the fact that "election denying" is utter bullshit. The "denying" are the one complicit and supporting election ballot collection, counting, and reporting corruption. There is no doubt, and I am 100% sure this is the clear and present danger to any further fair elections. Sadly, the dims are joyous and giddy that they not only got away with it in 2020, but have pulled it off again 2022.
I saw a poll, I’ll try to find it and post it, were only 25% of the American people have faith in our election process
I don’t have the expectation that everybody who I support is going to win all the time. And I understand that sometimes Republicans win and sometimes Democrats win. But for God’s sake, Third World countries run smoother elections than we have in the last couple years
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@art.prout
@Right_in_Virginia
RIV is knowledgeable and spirited, I’ll say that for her. She’s a valuable resource here. I get insights from her about issues and politicians I don’t get from the politburo media. But, to be honest I could say the same for many people here. TBR is all I need to stay updated; and staying informed today is more important than ever.
Lol
You’re addicted to this site. As am I. It’s soothing to be with comrade in arms in these troubling times
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I saw a poll, I’ll try to find it and post it, were only 25% of the American people have faith in our election process
I don’t have the expectation that everybody who I support is going to win all the time. And I understand that sometimes Republicans win and sometimes Democrats win. But for God’s sake, Third World countries run smoother elections than we have in the last couple years
I have no more faith in U.S. elections. To me, they lack the fundamentally necessary aspects that make an election system reliable, and therefore U.S. elections are invalid as far as I'm concerned right now. The U.S. is now an illegitimate government, because its legitimacy stands or falls on the validity of its elections.
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@Lando Lincoln
Why did you ping me? I’ve never called anybody a liar or ridiculed anybody for their stances.
I just simply responded to the claim of not having emotionally-based responses when in fact they were. I understand we all have to defend our egos which causes us to become emotional and lash out at others when we feel we are being attacked. And I personally have no desire to follow somebody on another forum to harass them. Whoever does that needs to stop. Heated discussions are one thing. But you don’t have to make it personal. I get this election was a huge disappointment and I think we’re all emotional right now.
I do not think Trump should be the 2024 nominee. I think that would increase Biden’s and the Democrats chances of victory. If someone disagrees that’s fine. We’re not gonna change each other’s minds and ultimately, despite that difference I have with Trump supporters, we want the same things for this country
And maybe I’ll be proven wrong. Trump may get the nomination and win in a landslide.
I think we are all worried about the direction of the country. And it isn’t just us. It seems people outside our little bubble of conservatism also agree. So it does hurt that Republicans didn’t do as well as they should have. Because we know without any real buffer against Joe Biden and his merry band of leftists, we’re all going to suffer
At some point, the wounds will heal and will have to move on. That’s when the real fight will begin and even the worst of storms eventually pass.
I apologize @LMAO. I did not intend such an implication but I can see I did, clearly.
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I have no more faith in U.S. elections. To me, they lack the fundamentally necessary aspects that make an election system reliable, and therefore U.S. elections are invalid as far as I'm concerned right now. The U.S. is now an illegitimate government, because its legitimacy stands or falls on the validity of its elections.
Brilliant!
Without confidence in future elections the American dynasty will have run its course. It’s probably a good thing the future is hidden from us. I don’t ever want to see what’s in store.
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I apologize @LMAO. I did not intend such an implication but I can see I did, clearly.
@Lando Lincoln
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Brilliant!
Without confidence in future elections the American dynasty will have run its course. It’s probably a good thing the future is hidden from us. I don’t ever want to see what’s in store.
Too many sheeple and not enough patriots to do much about it.
Gen Z has just spoken, and has decided to take the country off the cliff. Their power and numbers are just going to grow too.
Glad I'm 65, and won't likely have to watch it happen.
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Too many sheeple and not enough patriots to do much about it.
Gen Z has just spoken, and has decided to take the country off the cliff. Their power and numbers are just going to grow too.
Glad I'm 65, and won't likely have to watch it hapen.
I'm afraid we will have no choice but to watch it happen and be deeply affected, the democrats communists are moving the accelerator from light speed to plaid in their destruction of the Republic and America. My mother who is turning 91 in three weeks has said how she never thought she would live to see this happen in America but thankful she won't be alive for the destruction....she is probably correct.
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As De Santis hasn't gone through the vicious demonization scourging Trump has gone through. Its real early and unwise to dance on Trumps grave and declare Santis as a God coming to save us. Smacks of what a lock-stepping Democrat would brazenly and proudly do.
@christian
You DO know he is rude,right? What the Republicans need is someone polite,like one of the Bush Klan.
Yeah,THAT'S the ticket!
To many facade Conservatives have surfaced with the Republicans in serious trouble, to brag about democrat victory and Republican losses. To those not blind and stupid, they are now showing you who they really are. Wolves in sheep's clothing.
:smokin: :smokin: :smokin:
Soros rent a hos are even here.
@christian
They are ALL blind and stupid. It is creatures like this that are responsible for the left taking over the nation.
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McConnell is 80 years old and increasingly unlikely to retain his position as minority leader. If this happens he may resign his seat altogether. Kentucky recently passed a law to forbid the democrat governor from replacing him with anyone other than a republican. Of course he could appoint the biggest RINO he can find. Beshear is up for reelection in 2023 --- so Mitch may hang around until early 2024.
@Cato
Still plenty of time for JEB or some other Bush spawn to move to Ky.
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I saw a poll, I’ll try to find it and post it, were only 25% of the American people have faith in our election process
@LMAO
That 25 percent are wildly optimistic dreamers. AKA "delusional".
America will not exist as a free and independent nation within the next 8-12 years.
Not to worry,though. EVERYBODY will be polite thanks to a federal mandate.
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Your gang is calling me a liar and stalking me on other forums so you can ridicule me on this one -----
@Right_in_Virginia
Who is this gang member who is calling you a "liar" and who is stalking you on other forums?
(Disclaimer: there is a difference between calling someone a "liar", and pointing out where something they keep repeating ad infinitum is patently false. When you encounter the latter, the best defense is to address it openly by providing evidence that supports the claim you are making. Because in the absence of that, people will suspect that you willfully know that your claims are false, but you choose to repeat them anyway. Hope that helps. Humility goes a long way with me.)
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@art.prout
@Right_in_Virginia
RIV is knowledgeable and spirited, I’ll say that for her. She’s a valuable resource here. I get insights from her about issues and politicians I don’t get from the politburo media. But, to be honest I could say the same for many people here. TBR is all I need to stay updated; and staying informed today is more important than ever.
:thumbsup:
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I'm hearing a lot of democrats and RINOs speaking of how Republicans must now have to run their elections to better suit democrats, even imitate democrats ways to run their elections.
Youtube now says that many judges are demanding that mail in ballots that have no date on them are void. Ballots that don't have election dates on them are being shredded in a extreme hurry by democrats. Can't get a more honest election than that, at least where democrats can heavily influence them. Two election in a row where election fraud prevalent, bt by democrats don't exist at all, and democrats now want Republicans to run their side of elections to suit democrats. Odd the democrat views of elections being greatly favored by the media, who'd a thunk?
Democrats have been proud of their lowest of the low scum bag politics, and now are advancing aggressively by their conscienceless stooges. As Upchuck Schumer said with such politics decried; Well it worked didn't it? Less conscience than a WWII Nazi.
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Thank you @art.prout Very much.
You are more than welcome @Right_in_Virginia
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@art.prout
@Right_in_Virginia
RIV is knowledgeable and spirited, I’ll say that for her. She’s a valuable resource here. I get insights from her about issues and politicians I don’t get from the politburo media. But, to be honest I could say the same for many people here. TBR is all I need to stay updated; and staying informed today is more important than ever.
We'll see if you are so magnanimous at the end of the next couple of years, @aligncare
888mouth
(There are a few good ones, I will give you that.)
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McConnell is 80 years old and increasingly unlikely to retain his position as minority leader. If this happens he may resign his seat altogether. Kentucky recently passed a law to forbid the democrat governor from replacing him with anyone other than a republican. Of course he could appoint the biggest RINO he can find. Beshear is up for reelection in 2023 --- so Mitch may hang around until early 2024.
McConnell is seeing his first challenge in 15 years. (Scott) He'll likely prevail, but he's also got to realize that his hold on the party is not only slipping, but is compromised. He bears the line responsible for the 2022 electoral.... and he realizes it.
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I agree 100% @Right_in_Virginia. While I sometimes disagree with you (surprise!), I would never call you a liar. That is a caustic aspersion which is not helpful to any discussion. Using it here, in this way and on this site, is just wrong.
@Hoodat
@LMAO
I have always a lot of respect for @Right_in_Virginia too. We've had our disagreements too, but she is smart as hell.
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Can't wait to see how well DeSantis does without the support of Trump voters.
What comes around,goes around,MF'ers!
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Can't wait to see how well DeSantis does without the support of Trump voters.
What comes around,goes around,MF'ers!
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PIss off, scumbag.
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McConnell is seeing his first challenge in 15 years. (Scott) He'll likely prevail, but he's also got to realize that his hold on the party is not only slipping, but is compromised. He bears the line responsible for the 2022 electoral.... and he realizes it.
If the opposition can’t find a stronger personality than Scott, they are stuck until McConnell dies in his sleep (which from the looks of him could happen at any time).
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PIss off, scumbag.
@Weird Tolkienish Figure
Awww,did I hurted your little feelings,baybay?
Suck it up,buttercup. It IS going to happen.
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It is way too early to anoint RDS as party leader. Certainly, his victory was stunning, and there will be enormous pressure on him to "save the party" and run for president. But Trump remains the party's biggest presence, and if RDS wants to dethrone him (I still have my doubts about that) then he will have to get in the ring and lock horns. That is the way it works.
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Now that Trump has made it all about him again, I rather doubt that DeSantis will go for the nomination for 2024. He seems to cool an operator to go for those sorts of quixotic adventures. I also rather doubt that Trump's threats and temper tantrums have scared Gov. DeSantis off.
Instead, we will simply have to suffer through an additional four years of Bidet, some of which will most likely be under Kameltoes, since Bidet will almost certainly not be able to finish out a second term until 2024. After that, if there's still a country left, we may have the opportunity to nominate Gov. DeSantis for the presidency.
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It is way too early to anoint RDS as party leader. Certainly, his victory was stunning, and there will be enormous pressure on him to "save the party" and run for president. But Trump remains the party's biggest presence, and if RDS wants to dethrone him (I still have my doubts about that) then he will have to get in the ring and lock horns. That is the way it works.
Whether it’s DeSantis or not there will be others that attempt to run. There will be others if only out of a resentment that Trump feels he’s “entitled” to the nomination
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Whether it’s DeSantis or not there will be others that attempt to run. There will be others if only out of a resentment that Trump feels he’s “entitled” to the nomination
There will be others, that's for sure.
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Can't wait to see how well DeSantis does without the support of Trump voters.
How did Brian Kemp fare?
But you are probably right. The Trump phenomena is a cult of personality ... his detractors (by now 61% of the country) have been saying it for years, though you get butthurt when they do. Borders, language, culture ... you aren't serious about any of that stuff.
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@Weird Tolkienish Figure
Awww,did I hurted your little feelings,baybay?
Suck it up,buttercup. It IS going to happen.
You've been crying like a little bitch on here for days. Someone needs to change your diaper, gramps.
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You've been crying like a little bitch on here for days. Someone needs to change your diaper, gramps.
Yesterday he told me to ESAD.... he's gone off the rails, so I'm steering clear for now.
Trump's possible demise and blame for the likes of Oz and Walker has some Trump supporting Briefers here on edge.
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You've been crying like a little bitch on here for days. Someone needs to change your diaper, gramps.
@Weird Tolkienish Figure
You write like the little whiny bitch you really are.
What comes around,goes around.
Suck it up,buttercup!
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Whether it’s DeSantis or not there will be others that attempt to run. There will be others if only out of a resentment that Trump feels he’s “entitled” to the nomination
Liz Cheney, Mike Pence, maybe Mike Pompeo. None of them stand any chance of beating Trump. I don't see too many others taking him on, unless some very powerful and rich people approach DeSantis with a blank check. It is not just a question of popularity, but money.
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@Weird Tolkienish Figure
You write like the little whiny bitch you really are.
What comes around,goes around.
Suck it up,buttercup!
Put the bottle of whiskey down, gramps. I know this place is your only social outlet. Because you're such a darling and pleasant person aren't you?
Last time in 2020 you got this nasty too. You're obviously upset. Go turn off your computer and take a walk. It'll do you a world of good.
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Liz Cheney, Mike Pence, maybe Mike Pompeo. None of them stand any chance of beating Trump. I don't see too many others taking him on, unless some very powerful and rich people approach DeSantis with a blank check. It is not just a question of popularity, but money.
@massadvj - Thanks for keeping this serious topic on track.
@sneakypete @Weird Tolkienish Figure - might we put the claws away?
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@sneakypete @Weird Tolkienish Figure
Stop the fighting..I suggest you both use the ignore feature...
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Though i loathe some Republicans, i find few that dwell down to the low level Democrats are comfortable to wallow in. The wicked are comfortable to accept those they view as gods, and wallow in their sewage, much like the Germans viewed the Nazi's of WWII.
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Good grief .... DeSantis hasn't even announced he's running though the MSM would have you believe otherwise.
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Good grief .... DeSantis hasn't even announced he's running though the MSM would have you believe otherwise.
It's in the best interest of MSM and the left in general to stir shit up via dissension in our ranks.