Amazing that a candidate who is under FBI investigation is likely to get elected president.
You know...
There is the potential, albeit small, that we are plunging towards a Constitutional crisis. Obama has his chess pieces all polished up and ready to go.
They musta found more people to give immunity to and more evidence to destroy.
One thing I learned last night digging through hundreds of them is that the relationship between Clinton and Obama's people was cold at best.
Paul Krugman @paulkrugman 8m8 minutes ago
Comey needs to provide full info immediately. Otherwise he has clearly made a partisan intervention, betraying his office.
Andrew Stiles @AndrewStilesUSA 3m3 minutes ago
The next Trump oppo is going to be bad.
That's right...prepare for more bad news re Trump
The rank and file of FBI were ticked off to the max she got let off the first time..
I have a feeling this was planned all along
Is this the long rumored N-bomb tape?
Don't know if it was planned but I do believe there is/was a mutiny brewing at the FBI
I posted one of the Podesta emails last night that said they were sitting on 9 hours of audio tapes of Trump.
This is like a political junkie's wet dream happening...
BIG: The FBI is reopening its investigation into @HillaryClinton's email server. Here's the letter from the FBI to Congress: pic.twitter.com/OKjipTeiJp
— Frank Thorp V (@frankthorp) October 28, 2016
In previous congressional testimony, I referred to the fact that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) had completed its investigation of former Secretary Clinton’s personal email server. I am writing to supplement my previous testimony.
In connection with an unrelated case, the FBI has learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation. I am writing to inform you that the investigative team briefed me on this yesterday, and I agree that the FBI should take appropriate investigative steps designed to allow investigators to review these emails to determine whether the contain classified information, as well as to assess their importance to our investigation.
Although the FBI cannot yet assess whether or not this material may be significant, and I cannot predict how long it will take us to complete the additional work, I believe it is important to update your Committees about our efforts in light of my previous testimony.
Don't know if it was planned but I do believe there is/was a mutiny brewing at the FBI
"In connection with an unrelated case, the FBI has learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation. I am writing to inform you that the investigative team briefed me on this yesterday, and I agreed that the FBI should take appropriate investigative steps designed to allow investigators to review these emails to determine whether they contain classified information, as well as to assess their importance to our investigation," he added.
OK, this is a big deal. Comey doesn't write a letter like this unless the determination has already been made, that it's serious, and the scale of the "new discoveries" is significant. And, probably, the discoveries catch Clinton or her people in flat-out lies of the sort to place them in legal jeopardy.
He doesn't write this letter for a couple of e-mails containing moderately confidential information.
Plus which, I believe he's desperate to reclaim some semblance of respectability for the FBI, which has been made to look like a political patsy by their behavior to date.
Yes. But watch the left howl that THIS is the nefarious political play of the FBI.
uh-oh.
This is almost worst case scenario for Hillary, because there won't be enough time to complete the investigation. That means she's going to be entering election day with the cloud of a newly-reopened FBI investigation hanging over her head. It's almost impossible for them to even fight back against it because there are no details.
I was pretty certain this thing was over, but it may not be.
Everyone stocked up on popcorn?
No doubt about it.
But ... wouldn't the irony be delicious if this turns out to be Hillary's Watergate Moment?
Fox News @FoxNews 37m37 minutes ago
Letter FBI Director James Comey sent to House Judiciary Committee on re-opening the investigation of #HillaryClinton's private e-mail server
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cv3weNmVIAAZndo.jpg)
uh-oh.
This is almost worst case scenario for Hillary, because there won't be enough time to complete the investigation. That means she's going to be entering election day with the cloud of a newly-reopened FBI investigation hanging over her head. It's almost impossible for them to even fight back against it because there are no details.
I was pretty certain this thing was over, but it may not be.
Who is her Deep Throat?
Andrew McCarthy has long held that the FBI did not pursue charges against HRC earlier because they uncovered equally damning evidence against Barack Obama. This has the potential of busting the dam wide open.
Stunning.
Comey is starting to Obama his pants. He sees that Trump is about to win the election. And as promised - Trump will personally see to it that Hillary will be charged and prosecuted for her crimes.
And since Comey is and has been complicit in those crimes - he's going to jail too!
This is just a lame effort to weasel out of his criminal involvements with the Clintons and their dirty money which he has stuffed in his pockets.
Most likely got the heads up which would explain why she doesn't have scheduled events through election day.
I read the opposite. This is just more cover to look tough when the fix has been in for a very long time. Another long, pretend investigation will end just loke the first one.
Most likely got the heads up which would explain why she doesn't have scheduled events through election day.
Exactly. If Trumpsters will still vote for an assaulter of women, Hillary voters will still vote for a doofus in handling classified info.
Okay after reading it, it is a big fat nothing burger (as the Trumpsters like to say). All it is doing is covering their own behinds (the FBI) in order to prove they are considering all new evidence. It says nothing and will assuredly end like the other ended. The fix is in. Anyone who thinks there was ever a chance that Hillary would be charged with a crime has too much faith in the system. It has been fatally corrupted by politics.
Is Tim Kaine ready for the 11 most miserable days of his life? If Hillary's holed up in Chappaqua, he's likely the one to catch the flak.
BTW, if a President is found guilty and Congress refuses to impeach, can a President pardon himself/herself?It hasn't happened before, but in theory, yes. Consider it a form of sovereign immunity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_immunity).
That's silly. This is not going to cause those who are voting for Hillary to change their vote.
Only if/when the FBI frog marches Clinton to jail in handcuffs, will I ever regain any trust in the credibility of the FBI.
It hasn't happened before, but in theory, yes. Consider it a form of sovereign immunity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_immunity).
Whatever the left has on Trump, they'll have to drop it tonight.........
It will damage her. It did last time.
Maybe not enough to win, but it will damage her. I'll bet anything.
Of course, depends on what comes out about Trump.
Aye.
Is this the long rumored N-bomb tape?
I posit that it's all (this latest announcement of reopening the "case") just another distraction and deflection. Yeah, Rush. I'm the cynic. And none of this will negatively impact the Hillary campaign enough to result in a Clinton loss....
unfortunately.
Me reading between the lines? He had rebellion on his hands. Long-time, honorable investigators had their pitchforks out.
Trump's absolute best move at this point would be to announce that he's only going to run for one term. Sell himself as the non-politician going in for four years just to clean it up, then leave. Make the argument that once she gets in she'll never let go of power because she's been after it all her life.
"So if you're undecided, what would you rather have? Four years of me, or eight years of her?"
I don't honestly think either one of them will make it through a full term without being impeached.
BTW, if a President is found guilty and Congress refuses to impeach, can a President pardon himself/herself?
Don't forget impeached doesnt mean removed from office.
Don't forget impeached doesnt mean removed from office.
One of the issues surrounding this and most of the stuff on Wikileaks is it is simply too comlpex for the average person to understand. I just took three paragraphs to describe as simply as possible the difference between a private email domain and a private email server. That wasn't for the lack of being informed from the person I was talking to, it was just a complex issue.
I think the chance that Senate Democrats vote to convict and remove from office the first female President are somewhere between zero and none.
You are reading more into it than is there. The info they are talking about "investigating" is likely the info that has been leaked into the media. They are playing catch-up. They are the FBI for gosh sakes. It is their job to investigate. As for related issues...that is probably investigations into how everyone and their grandmother seems to have access to this info. I'm guessing the bigger investigation underneath all of this is hacking in general. Big picture, our security as a Nation cannot suffer with all this hacking. Hillary email issues are issues of the past. Hacking is an ongoing issue. You tell me what would get priority attention.
It's up to the American voter now....
They have a choice:
1) Do they want a Nixon like scenario haunting capitol hill from day 1?
Or
2) Do they want a Trump University circus haunting capitol hill in 2017?
No matter how horrible Hillary is, Trump is unacceptable.
"In connection with an unrelated case, the FBI has learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation. I am writing to inform you that the investigative team briefed me on this yesterday, and I agreed that the FBI should take appropriate investigative steps designed to allow investigators to review these emails to determine whether they contain classified information, as well as to assess their importance to our investigation," he added.
How valiant to defend Hillary; :silly:
You can't make this stuff up; from one of those who don't accept the nominee of the party.
Let's pull for Evan McMullin to take Utah. That could provide a lever for Congress to reject both Too Corrupt and Too Crazy.
Gawd I love Politics..times like these I wish I had a cigarette.. :smokin:
Unacceptable to you, you must love Islam, illegal aliens, open borders and partial birth abortion.
Unacceptable to you, you must love Islam, illegal aliens, open borders and partial birth abortion.
Unacceptable to you, you must love Islam, illegal aliens, open borders and partial birth abortion.
...
I'm not so sure to be honest. Presumably many would be worried about 2020, which is a mid-term and is usually when the conservative vote is strongest.
You really are going to go there? Over an FBI investigation of HRC emails? Throw a dart at the forum topics and threads. You are most probably to hit one where that time-weary nonsense is being flung around like in a gorilla cage.
Thanks for correcting me, I wonder where you were when these so-called conservatives make attacks on me and others.
Preach it!
One thing you missed, this certainly was a big defense of Hilary and Rat Patrol managed to attack Trump as well.
So, if one wants to criticize me, be my guest!
How valiant to defend Hillary; :silly:
You can't make this stuff up; from one of those who don't accept the nominee of the party.
I swear 3/4 of the posters on this site are democrat hacks trolling. Not sure if I am on a conservative site or DU.
@TomSea
The memo doesn't really say that. It only says that they found more emails and are looking at them.
I swear 3/4 of the posters on this site are democrat hacks trolling. Not sure if I am on a conservative site or DU.
@TomSea
Just can't help yourself can you?
I swear 3/4 of the posters on this site are democrat hacks trolling. Not sure if I am on a conservative site or DU.
@TomSea
You are reading more into it than is there.
How valiant to defend Hillary; :silly:
I swear 3/4 of the posters on this site are democrat hacks trolling. Not sure if I am on a conservative site or DU.
@TomSea
I swear 3/4 of the posters on this site are democrat hacks trolling. Not sure if I am on a conservative site or DU.
@TomSea
It is Friday. So far the biggest news and leaks have all come on fridays.
Even if Hillary wins, anything that weakens her is a good thing.
Habit?
It has to be about hacking of some sort. If they do not resolve that issue, then what point is any security? If it is not the number one issue they are investigating, it should be. What got out or was improperly secured way back when is clearly secondary to the ongoing threat of hacking. Only blind partisans can't see it.
Hillary Clinton Email Scandal: Kim Dotcom Says Deleted Mails Can Be Recovered
Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s email controversy may be far from over, if internet entrepreneur Kim Dotcom is to be believed. The man wanted by the U.S. on copyright infringement and money laundering charges said on Twitter Thursday that all of Clinton’s “permanently deleted” emails can, in fact, be accessed. Legally.
Clinton had deleted all emails from the private server she was using when she was serving as secretary of state. Copies of mails she considered work-related were saved and shared with a State Department investigation, which blocked the release of some of those mails till after the presidential election. An FBI investigation unearthed more of her emails, over 100 of which had classified information, but the agency decided not to bring any charges against her.
But about 32,000 emails were never handed over by Clinton to anyone, messages she said were personal and permanently deleted from her server. It is precisely those messages that Dotcom says can be retrieved.
The X-Keyscore, or XKS, that Dotcom is referring to is a computer system, once secret, that the NSA uses for searching and analyzing global internet traffic and data. According to Dotcom, access logs of XKS (a list of everything accessed using the XKS system) never disappears, and therefore, all of Clinton’s emails accessed by the NSA will still be on the server.
On his Twitter account, Dotcom also says he knows how the XKS system works because the New Zealand government had used it to spy on him. And to provide more credence to his claim, he even says a former NSA consultant, whistleblower and another man wanted by the U.S. government — Edward Snowden — would agree with him.
Dotcom’s claim rests on the assumption, however, that the NSA certainly accessed Clinton’s emails while she was using a private server when she was secretary of state. And with WikiLeaks already releasing, in batches, all of her emails, the point Dotcom is making is that there is a way to access them without hacking.
Hacking is one possibility, and a reasonable hypothesis in this season of Wikileaks. One can see the FBI looking into what's out there, and finding something new and sufficiently damning to re-open this investigation.
Other possibilities may be that the Clinton e-mails show up in connection with some sort of pay-to-play investigation; or perhaps some sort of investigation involving espionage and/or illegal release of classified information to unwholesome people.
The importance of her e-mails showing up in a Pay-to-play investigation is obvious, especially if the Clinton Foundation is also involved.
The importance of them showing up in an espionage/illegal release investigation is that now her e-mail server arrangement has demonstrably compromised national security.
Rush was just talking about the below Kim Dotcom connection to the new emails.
X-Keyscore
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XKeyscore
I swear 3/4 of the posters on this site are democrat hacks trolling. Not sure if I am on a conservative site or DU.
@TomSea
I posit that it's all (this latest announcement of reopening the "case") just another distraction and deflection. Yeah, Rush. I'm the cynic. And none of this will negatively impact the Hillary campaign enough to result in a Clinton loss....
unfortunately.
Rush was just talking about the below Kim Dotcom connection to the new emails.
Unfortunately for Trump, 17 million people have already voted though.
Allahpundit @allahpundit 30s31 seconds ago
Imagine all the dick pics the FBI is wading through right now to protect national security
Haha... didn't Trump mention something about a 400 pound hacker in the debate? Could he have known?
Not sure however today Rush said he got a phone call about Kim Dotcom two nights ago. I believe he said there was speculation that new emails may be related to Obama.
The New York Times Verified acNew Emails in Clinton Case Came From Anthony Weiner’s Electronic Devices
By ADAM GOLDMAN and ALAN RAPPEPORTOCT. 28, 2016 count
@nytimes
New emails tied to the FBI's Clinton inquiry were discovered during the investigation into Anthony Weiner's sexting
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/29/us/politics/fbi-hillary-clinton-email.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0
New Emails in Clinton Case Came From Anthony Weiner’s Electronic Devices
By ADAM GOLDMAN and ALAN RAPPEPORTOCT. 28, 2016
WASHINGTON — Federal law enforcement officials said Friday that the new emails uncovered in the closed investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server were discovered after the F.B.I. seized electronic devices belonging to Huma Abedin, and aide to Mrs. Clinton, and her husband, Anthony Weiner.
The F.B.I. told Congress that it had uncovered new emails related to the closed investigation into whether Mrs. Clinton or her aides had mishandled classified information, potentially reigniting an issue that has weighed on the presidential campaign and offering a lifeline to Donald J. Trump less than two weeks before the election.
In a letter to Congress, the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, said that emails had surfaced in an unrelated case, and that they “appear to be pertinent to the investigation.”
Mr. Comey said the F.B.I. was taking steps to “determine whether they contain classified information, as well as to assess their importance to our investigation.” He said he did not know how long it would take to review the emails, or whether the new information was significant.
The announcement comes as Mr. Trump has fallen behind Mrs. Clinton in most national polls and in many battleground states. Polls have been tightening in recent days, however, amid the daily release of hacked Clinton campaign emails published by WikiLeaks.
Mr. Trump seized on the F.B.I. action on Friday at a rally in New Hampshire. To cheers of “lock her up” from his supporters, Mr. Trump said: “Hillary Clinton’s corruption is on a scale we have never seen before. We must not let her take her criminal scheme into the Oval Office.”
After deriding the F.B.I. for weeks as inept and corrupt, Mr. Trump went on to praise the law enforcement agency.
more at link
So Rush knows Kim Dotcom well enough that Kim had his number (assuming he didn't call in the show line) and could validate it actually was him who called?
Interesting.
Matthew Yglesias @mattyglesias 7m7 minutes ago
Anthony Weiner and Billy Bush, the hidden drivers of the 2016 election
Yeah....uh.....nah.
I'm not going to hold MY breath for anything to come of this. Been there. Done that. And causing folks to have false hope seems to be the preferred leftist game this year. Not playing.
Matthew Yglesias @mattyglesias 7m7 minutes ago
Anthony Weiner and Billy Bush, the hidden drivers of the 2016 election
Yeah....uh.....nah.
I'm not going to hold MY breath for anything to come of this. Been there. Done that. And causing folks to have false hope seems to be the preferred leftist game this year. Not playing.
Erick Erickson @EWErickson 1m1 minute ago
So FBI finds new emails on a new device in an unrelated investigation that relates back to Clinton? Huma/Weiner?
Jesse SingalVerified account @jessesingal 25s25 seconds ago
This is gonna turn into a Forest Gump thing where it turns out Anthony Weiner's weiner is responsible for every major historical event
Rumor on Twitter that Weiner cut a plea deal?
How timely of the NY Times. Could this be a distraction? How long has the FBI had the Weiner phone? Maybe from the Huma phone? Comey reopened due to "mishandling classified information". I don't believe this NYT story for a minute.
Allahpundit @allahpundit 30s31 seconds ago
Imagine all the dick pics the FBI is wading through right now to protect national security
LOL, it did come from Weiner's device.
For the first time, my gut is telling me this is the high water mark of the Clinton syndicate. I hate that feeling. Oh, I want it to be the end. But, it gives me expectations. Hopeful expectations. When I have expectations, I get disappointed. $hit.
Lando 22222frying pan
You and a bunch of the rest of us.
The Clinton Crime Family weasels out of everything.
Hard to be hopeful, but...... maybe??
I think the chance that Senate Democrats vote to convict and remove from office the first female President are somewhere between zero and none.
So glad I get to make and hear Weiner jokes for the next two weeks... 22222frying pan
Jesse SingalVerified account @jessesingal 25s25 seconds ago
This is gonna turn into a Forest Gump thing where it turns out Anthony Weiner's weiner is responsible for every major historical event
I like the tone of these Weiner email connections to Hillary.
We've gone from Wikileaks to Weinerleaks.
Quick, everyone start digging. Look for Weiner in Podesta's wikileaks (no pun intended)
Is it true what I just heard? The New York Post is ready with this headline....
Weiner Probes Harms Hillary
Geraldo Rivera @GeraldoRivera 4m4 minutes ago Arizona, USA
#FBI Director was a political hack/bum to #GOP yesterday Today hailed a hero. That aside, this is a seismic development vs @HillaryClinton
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I like the tone of these Weiner email connections to Hillary.
We've gone from Wikileaks to Weinerleaks.
Is it true what I just heard? The New York Post is ready with this headline....
Weiner Probes Harms Hillary
I swear 3/4 of the posters on this site are democrat hacks trolling. Not sure if I am on a conservative site or DU.
@TomSea
This is why I don't believe in early voting....make voting day a national holiday so people can vote....
Sorry Geraldo. Comey is still a political hack/bum. No way is he a hero.
Alright let's keep this clean....
So glad I get to make and hear Weiner jokes for the next two weeks... 22222frying pan
Abedin couldn’t remember much during her time at State, according to FBI documents, including how to consistently print documents or emails from her secure Dept. of State system. Abedin told FBI agents in an April interview that she struggled to print secure docs and emails from her secure PC. Instead, she would forward the sensitive emails to:
Her personal Clinton.com email address
Her personal yahoo.com address
Her email linked to husband Anthony Weiner
Abedin said she would then access those email accounts via webmail from an unclassified computer system at the State Dept. and print the documents, many of which were classified and top secret, from the largely unprotected webmail portals. Clinton did not have a computer in her office on Mahogany Row at the State Dept. so she was not able to read timely intelligence unless it was printed out for her, Abedin said. Abedin also said Clinton could not operate the secure State Dept. fax machine installed in her Chappaqua, NY home without assistance.
Perhaps more alarming, none of the multiple FBI agents and Justice Department officials who conducted Abedin’s interview pressed her to further detail what were repeated and obvious violations of a host of federal laws.
Hannity says it has nothing to do with Weiner but new wikileaks about to be released that will supposedly put Hillary in jail.. :silly:
So the Weiner leak may be premature?
888high58888
So the Weiner leak may be premature?
Let me get this straight. The whole Deep Throat moment for Clinton possibly going down.... was A. Weiner?
**nononono*
You're shameless.
:beer:
They just write themselves, don't they?
The Mods are going to need a stiff one after this
Tells me Wall street is afraid of Trump.
Interesting that the stock market took a brief tumble with word of the new investigation.
I remember someone telling me once, "It's better to be a rich Democrat that a poor Republican"
Tells me Wall street is afraid of Trump.
I think they should probably put the entire staff on alert.
Hope they can rise to the occasion and not go off half cocked.
Sal Arnuk Verified account
@ThemisSal
BREAKING: @HillaryClinton SPOTTED IN WHITE BRONCO ON THE 405
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cv310xgXYAAaJ-y.jpg)
Because he's an economic illiterate, that's why.
If you think we're surprised, imagine how Bill feels. Never thought he'd see the day when a Weiner brought Hillary to her knees.
Interesting that the stock market took a brief tumble with word of the new investigation.
I remember someone telling me once, "It's better to be a rich Democrat that a poor Republican"
Tells me Wall street is afraid of Trump.
The last person we had as President with training in economics got his degree at Eureka.
Kim Dotcom @KimDotcom Oct 27
NSA collects 'all' emails traversing through US networks & stores them long term in Utah. That includes Hillary's deleted emails. X-Keyscore
Weiner Probe Impales Clinton
Reporters aboard Clinton campaign plane in dark about FBI development as wi-fi ‘out’
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/reporters-aboard-clinton-campaign-plane-in-dark-about-fbi/ (http://www.theamericanmirror.com/reporters-aboard-clinton-campaign-plane-in-dark-about-fbi/)
Gov. Mike Huckabee Verified account
@GovMikeHuckabee
Who would have thought a Weiner would be HRC’s undoing?😱
DanRiehl @DanRiehl 7m7 minutes ago
The thing is, If Hillary's right hand gal Huma forwarded classified emails to Weiner, or even her own un-secured acct. It's a big deal.
You and a bunch of the rest of us.
The Clinton Crime Family weasels out of everything.
Hard to be hopeful, but...... maybe??
The Mods are going to need a stiff one after this
Right now we're all talking in a vacuum but I want to adhere that in the last, oh, 36, 48 hours, there has been an undercurrent of kind of speculative discussion among some national security people that something might surface in the next few days about e-mails, and I think the expectation in this chatter -- and I took it as just chatter but informed chatter, to some extent -- was that it would relate to another round of WikiLeaks e-mails, which our Justice Department people seem to be saying is not the case, but there has been some noise in the national security community the last day or two of this kind of possibility of some kind of revelation.
I looked it up. The story broke over a month ago that Weiner - with his baby present - was sexting a 15 year old girl. The FBI began investigating immediately.
But it took them over a month to find some Hillary emails on his device?
Bull Cheese.
They knew then. They sat on this info until now. Why?
This is a diversion folks. A shell game to distract you from where the real pea is. Just like the Hillary poor health stories were. Weiner is a easy target. He's already been thrown under the bus; so what's a few more trips under for him gonna do? Lets just hope this backfires on them and this "manufactured crisis" really does her in.
FBI dramatically reopens Hillary email investigation...(https://media.giphy.com/media/pCdmE1UoO8NZm/giphy.gif)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHjFxJVeCQs
They knew then. They sat on this info until now. Why?
This is a diversion folks.
if true how does she benefit....more damaging wikileaks will be released tonight or tomorrow,
George Bush had an MBA
Correct. And as they are - especially after 5:00 on Friday - no one will notice or care.:pondering:
We're all too busy making Weiner jokes.
We're all too busy making Weiner jokes.
A hell of a diversion, since it's coming out before the election....
True. But consider: for Hillary Clinton the worst possible outcome is to be made an object of mockery, in addition to all of the bad things (liar, corrupt, crook, incompetent) that people already impute to her.
This isn't a bad thing.
True. But consider: for Hillary Clinton the worst possible outcome is to be made an object of mockery, in addition to all of the bad things (liar, corrupt, crook, incompetent) that people already impute to her.
This isn't a bad thing.
There is the possibility that the FBI would reopen this case to find “evidence” that supports their earlier position. CYA.
If I were a true cynic, I would even go so far as to think that the FBI will offer more immunity deals that will make it harder to impeach a President Clinton.
Lot's of posts here. Did I miss something?
Lot's of posts here. Did I miss something?
Lot's of posts here. Did I miss something?
Lot's of posts here. Did I miss something?
BRIAN FALLON: I think we just need to review the facts of what happened here...
The [FBI] concluded on that first week of July that there was no case to be brought here. It was not even a close call. in the weeks since, we saw Jason Chaffetz and other Republicans who were disappointed in the outcome seeking to relitigate the handling, and calling Director Comey, who throughout his career has been someone of utmost integrity and professional reputation who was the number two in the Bush Justice Department.
They suggested that there were quid pro quos involving FBI officials even after the FBI denied it.
Donald Trump himself have called the bureau's integrity into question. And I think it would be unfortunate if all of that the reputation tarnishing that the Congressional Republicans have been engaging in is what prompted this. I don't know that to be true.
But I know it is an extraordinary and unprecedented step for something like this to be conveyed 11 days before an election and to be sent to Republican chairmen who have shown no discretion for keeping anything confidential, and it had to be known that a document like this would get out. So now that it is out, the American people need to have the full facts.
When Director Comey said this was something arising from an unrelated matter to the case that was closed in July, he now owes us an explanation for why there is any connection being drawn to Hillary Clinton at all... When he includes for the possibility that these e-mails may be insignificant, he needs to tell us why he sent this letter if the possibility still exists that these materials are insignificant.
We are fully confident that however long it takes, there will be no conclusion drawn that would change the out come of the investigation that was wrapped up in July.
We think at this point it is incumbent on Director Comey and the FBI to go further than what is contained in this letter and hold another press conference if that's what it takes. To to the public explain what relevance this has on the decision that voters were making when they go to the polls and choose between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. We don't think there is any connection.
True. But consider: for Hillary Clinton the worst possible outcome is to be made an object of mockery, in addition to all of the bad things (liar, corrupt, crook, incompetent) that people already impute to her.
This isn't a bad thing.
Anthony's Weiner Bites Hillary On The Ass.
Exactly. As soon as people laugh at you in this kind of condescending "I can't believe this way", you've lost something that is very difficult to get back. This might be the straw that breaks the back of a some voters. Still an uphill climb, but this is gonna leave a mark.
I've always thought it was one of her aides that would go down. Mills, for various reasons, is too well protected. But Abedin is protected only by Hillary, and that may not be enough. The problems for Hillary is that not only is Abedin recognized as one of her two closest aides -- which puts Hillary's own judgment in relying on her at issue -- but it was Hillary's underlying misconduct for which Abedin is paying the price. Hillary will be symbolic of every crooked boss who offered up a subordinate as a sacrifice to save their own butt.
Alright let's keep this clean....
Only Wiener's unwiped unit.
If the strokes causing brain damage had not occurred, then Hillary would have known better and would have dumped Huma for her relationship with a sexual pervert. Anyone without brain damage would know that no good could come from the Weiner.Good point. :beer:
But then - Hillary herself has been married to a sexual pervert for 41 years. Birds of a feather....
Time for some new bifocals
I read that as "uncut". I'm thinking. No way for a good Jew!
True. But consider: for Hillary Clinton the worst possible outcome is to be made an object of mockery, in addition to all of the bad things (liar, corrupt, crook, incompetent) that people already impute to her.
This isn't a bad thing.
Andrew McCarthy has long held that the FBI did not pursue charges against HRC earlier because they uncovered equally damning evidence against Barack Obama. This has the potential of busting the dam wide open.
Stunning.
That is a big part of it probably but it also resides in the evidence. At some point, regardless of your wants or plans, you realize the tide is getting too high and you seek higher ground. We could see unholy hell about to break loose.
KimDotCom is supposedly a big player among the hackers of the world.
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https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/791929197283250177
Fox News @FoxNews 37m37 minutes ago
Letter FBI Director James Comey sent to House Judiciary Committee on re-opening the investigation of #HillaryClinton's private e-mail server
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I don't think so. He's undoubtedly smart enough to understand the tremendous political impact of writing a letter of this sort, this close to the election. A two-week delay would be perfectly reasonable and easy to defend. Which is to say, he doesn't do it for light and transient reasons.
As I said above, Comey doesn't write a letter like this unless the determination has already been made, that it's serious, and the scale of the "new discoveries" is significant. And, probably, the discoveries catch Clinton or her people in flat-out lies of the sort to place them in legal jeopardy.
It's interesting to speculate about the source of the new e-mails: is it wikileaks? Guccifer? Somebody else? Whatever the source or the contents, Comey sees them as admitting no delay beyond the election.
So far, that just says that thd FBI has emails that they will assess to see if they are significant. Not that they are.
That's it.
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So far, that just says that thd FBI has emails that they will assess to see if they are significant. Not that they are.
That's it.
When in the Obama era has the FBI proven itself worthy of our trust? The last time they conducted an 'investigation' into Clinton's server they granted immunity willy nilly & destroyed the evidence.
Seems like they consider themselves more a damage control team for the state than a law enforcement organization. Kinda like the roll of HR in most corporations.
A better strategy is probably to release the information through non-government sources.
What non-government sources? The MSM? lol...spit
What non-government sources? The MSM? lol...spit
The NYP isn't too bad, sometimes:
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/792121855008202752/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw (https://twitter.com/nypost/status/792121855008202752/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
Because he's an economic illiterate, that's why.
:silly:
BREAKING: FBI PROBING NEW CLINTON EMAILS..
The NYP isn't too bad, sometimes:That makes me physically ill. Whatta psycho.
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/792121855008202752/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw (https://twitter.com/nypost/status/792121855008202752/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
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Is it SMOD??? I'm so confused here. If it is SMOD should I kiss my butt goodbye and then see if I have one left for mom?
I don't know what it is, but of all the things about which I am most worried, a Russian nuclear strike would be one of them. I don't think that's what he means, so it's probably referring to some sort of major political upheaval.
Interesting that the stock market took a brief tumble with word of the new investigation.
I remember someone telling me once, "It's better to be a rich Democrat that a poor Republican"
Tells me Wall street is afraid of Trump.
In the midst of all this, the stock market was going down? C'mon......
Stocks close mostly lower after new Hillary Clinton probe sends markets for wild ride
SMOD?
We are all jaded to some degree or another. As most of us have been political observers over decades of time, how could we not be? But the timing is so extraordinary, with potential reverberations so huge, that this feels different to me. Maybe it is nothing. It is probably nothing even.
But, damn.
Is that a prayer?
SMOD?
Let's just not have a President for four years. We'll be fine. Let's just appoint a Junta.
Eric Schmeltzer @JustSchmeltzer 4h4 hours ago
FBI Sources saying emails are from Huma to Hillary, recovered from Huma's phone. Would not affect FBI decision to not charge in case.
Eric Schmeltzer @JustSchmeltzer 4h4 hours ago
FBI Sources saying emails are from Huma to Hillary, recovered from Huma's phone. Would not affect FBI decision to not charge in case.
Eric Schmeltzer @JustSchmeltzer 4h4 hours ago
FBI Sources saying emails are from Huma to Hillary, recovered from Huma's phone. Would not affect FBI decision to not charge in case.
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So why the investigation? Just for the bleep of it?
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They need a sacrificial lamb to protect Clinton, and Abedin or Weiner will be it. If it's Abedin, watch for her to land a seven figure job someplace in a year or two.
Eric Schmeltzer @JustSchmeltzer 4h4 hours ago
FBI Sources saying emails are from Huma to Hillary, recovered from Huma's phone. Would not affect FBI decision to not charge in case.
Like I said in reply 333, it is irrelevant what evidence they have.
No one is going to pursue charges against Hillary or anyone close enough to her to tarnish her.
Welcome to the coup.
Took us about 4 years to recognize it.
If so, then... sad trombone sound. (https://www.sadtrombone.com/?autoplay=true)
I want to hear from the FBI why they are investigating if it won't affect their exoneration.
So 2 weeks before the election, the FBI announces they are reopening their investigation of the frontrunner for the bleep of it?
And now that the Justice Department and the FBI buried it the first time around they have a vested interest in not letting it be investigated in any real way because it exposes their corruption the first time around. In for a penny in for a pound. That's what the Justice Department and FBI have done. So either it goes away or it goes off like a nuke for the wider government at this point.
They're not investigating her. They're investigating her side Abedin and Abedins husband Weiner.
In previous congressional testimony, l referred to the fact that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) had completed its investigation of former Secretary Clinton's personal email server. Due to recent developments, I am writing to supplement my previous testimony.
In connection with an unrelated case, the FBI has learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation. I am writing to inform you that the investigative team briefed me on this yesterday, and I agreed that the FBI should take appropriate investigative steps designed to allow investigators to review these emails to determine whether they contain classified information, as well as to assess their importance to our investigation.
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LOL, it did come from Weiner's device.
You really can't make this shit up can you.
This is like the script to a Coen brother's movie.
Bernstein: FBI Would Not Reopen Case Unless New Evidence Was "A Real Bombshell"
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/28/bernstein_fbi_would_not_reopen_case_unless_new_evidence_was_a_real_bombshell.html
Kim Dotcom @KimDotcom Oct 27
NSA collects 'all' emails traversing through US networks & stores them long term in Utah. That includes Hillary's deleted emails. X-Keyscore
What will be interesting over the weekend is to see how hard the Republican leadership pushes this.
I'm thinking they'll address it, but won't go the wall over it, afraid that, if they do, Trump might actually win.
C'mon Sink...
Anything that helps Trump will help the GOP keep the Senate and HoR... they know that, you know that.
YOu're sounding like a bizarro Trumpkin here. You're better than that.
You think Paul Ryan really wants to have to deal with Trump for the next four years? McConnell wants a Trump denouncing him at every turn?
According to polls, it's not necessarily true that Trump helps down ticket. Trump drops in Ohio, Florida, NC, and Nevada, and the Senate candidates rise.
Now Comey saying he doesn't know if there is anything relevant in the emails.
What WHAT
I see a lot of folks setting themselves up for disappointment again and Clinton will be announcing that she's been investigated twice without charges.
Weiner's probe longer and deeper than first thought!(https://luckybogey.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/the-dirty-anthony-weiner.png)
So 2 weeks before the election, the FBI announces they are reopening their investigation of the frontrunner for the bleep of it?
That was in his original letter to Congress.
To sum it up (from what I've read):
1. There is an FBI investigation into Weiner.
2. There was emails between Huma and Weiner.
3. Some of those emails are pertinent to the investigation into Clinton's email server investigation.
4. The FBI doesn't know what those emails contain as yet, but would not have changed his assessment about the case.
I think the press is really about the fact that nobody really knows anything about about anything at this point.
In connection with an unrelated case, the FBI has learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation.
She might even sue the FBI for double-jeopardy. If she's President, she'd be able to make the call.
That'd be really interesting. Specially if she gets to nominate a good chunk of the Supreme court.
The FBI doesn't know what those emails contain as yet, but would not have changed his assessment about the case.
What will be interesting over the weekend is to see how hard the Republican leadership pushes this.
I'm thinking they'll address it, but won't go the wall over it, afraid that, if they do, Trump might actually win.
I figure the GOP and Trump will overplay this to the point of ridiculousness. And come Monday, people will have processed the information and realized just how unhinged Trump became over it.
And if there is a major oppo research drop from Clinton, then the viewpoint that Trump overreached in this will add to the 'punch' of the drop. Of course, that depends on if there is a drop or not.
Update:
4 devices found between Huma and Anthony Weiner.
This is amazing...they don't know what the emails say but no matter what it wouldn't change their opinions on Hillary's culpability....yeah right.
From Comey's original letter:
:shrug:
You tell me.
This is amazing...they don't know what the emails say but no matter what it wouldn't change their opinions on Hillary's culpability....yeah right.
No. Trump will say something stupid or there is footage of Trump groping a black woman in a KKK robe out there.
It will totally take Hillary's email problems out of the news.
However, as he's said that the new information would not have changed his decision to not recommend prosecution... I'd say that he's now finding out from the FBI investigators reading the emails that there isn't anything there.
However, as he's said that the new information would not have changed his decision to not recommend prosecution... I'd say that he's now finding out from the FBI investigators reading the emails that there isn't anything there.
I want to hear from the FBI why they are investigating if it won't affect their exoneration.
Why/how would you say that? He isn't releasing any more information AFAIK.
Perhaps they're only referring to Hillary. Personally, i think Hillary's top, most trusted aid going down on national security issues is still a very big deal. It's a direct reflection on her judgment and the kind of people she'd bring in with her.
And that's the charitable view. The uncharitable view will be that she let her subordinate take the fall for her sins.
Either way, just because Hillary herself isn't indicted doesn't mean this isn't a big deal.
Right... they're just announcing it in a statement with Clinton's name in it 11 days before an election for the hell of it. Just for no reason.
We are all jaded to some degree or another. As most of us have been political observers over decades of time, how could we not be? But the timing is so extraordinary, with potential reverberations so huge, that this feels different to me. Maybe it is nothing. It is probably nothing even.
But, damn.
The truth is that Hillary's people have no idea what is on those devices, and cannot know how far this could go. They likely figure this won't be resolved by the election, so they are trying to shape the public narrative with bogus FBI leaks that Hillary is really in the clear.
Perhaps they're only referring to Hillary. Personally, I think Hillary's top, most trusted aide going down on national security issues is still a very big deal. It's a direct reflection on her judgment and the kind of people she'd bring in with her.
And that's the charitable view. The uncharitable view will be that she let her subordinate take the fall for her sins.
Either way, just because Hillary herself isn't indicted doesn't mean this isn't a big deal.
You couldn't find five out of five hundred Hillary voters who know who Huma Abedin is.
It will not matter.
Can you imagine the amount of pressure from below required to force Comey to do this now? I can't.
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@imillhiser
Pete Williams just said on MSNBC that the FBI doesn't even know that the new emails aren't "duplicates" of emails they've already seen.
Is he speculating or does he know that?
Is he speculating or does he know that?
He's saying the FBI doesn't know.
Clarice Feldman
12 mins ·
Ed Rollins on Lous dobbs (summarized by daddY) links this to the Teneo scandal:
Rollins: The remaining 12 days of this campaign are going to be nothing but this story. I don't care what Hillary does advertising wise, or great organization or any other thing that she has some great advantages on, this is the story of the closing part of this campaign. First of all the FBI Director would not have reopened this if it wasn't very significant. My sense, and I'm not disclosing anything that I haven't already read in the papers, I worked for Teneo for 4 years. Teneo has been exposed the last couple days as a company that basically had close ties set up to Clinton Foundation, what have you. Huma Abedin came and worked for them for 4 or 5 months while she was still (garbled) Deputy Secretary of State. My sense is this may very well have been where this vehicle took place, and what Declan Kelly, who was the leader of that organization when Chuck Grassley was sort of chasing him about the role of Huma, is they had all the former Emails, any Email that was a year old erased from their company computer, so my sense is she probably thought whatever she had on her computer was gone. I think this may have been the outside computer that she used at home or what have you, but I'm confident that everything that she was supposed to get from Hillary went through that computer and obviously he had access to it.
Lou: And the likelihood is great that there are a lot of Emails that perhaps Hillary Clinton and her associates in the Clinton Cartel, whether we're talking about the Foundation, the State Department, her own Campaign, they thought had been eliminated, that perhaps were not.
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Sounds to me like Ed Rollins knows more than he is letting on. Here's more of Ed Rollins on Teneo. He knows it was dirty and in a sense he is dirty for having worked there.
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Lou: Teneo...?
Rollins: There were a lot of good people there and they do some good work, but at the end of the day the top of this organization was basically very much in bed in doing things. Equally important, Justen Cooper, who was one of the young aides who destroyed with a hammer, who broke up all the devices, was very much a part of that set that set the original server up, as a body person for former president Clinton. His legal fees have been paid by the Clinton's for the last several months. So I mean, to a certain extent, it's not clean. You've got to look at them before you get to the bottom of all this, so I think you will. There's a lot to unravel before it's done.
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My take from listening to Ed Rollins is that he is having great difficulty in speaking in his usual straightforward manner, and is very very guardedly considering his sentences and mangling them in a strange, un-regular way. Wonder what and how much he really knows.
To all:
This morning I sent a letter to Congress in connection with the Secretary Clinton email investigation. Yesterday, the investigative team briefed me on their recommendation with respect to seeking access to emails that have recently been found in an unrelated case. Because those emails appear to be pertinent to our investigation, I agreed that we should take appropriate steps to obtain and review them.
Of course, we don’t ordinarily tell Congress about ongoing investigations, but here I feel an obligation to do so given that I testified repeatedly in recent months that our investigation was completed. I also think it would be misleading to the American people were we not to supplement the record. At the same time, however, given that we don’t know the significance of this newly discovered collection of emails, I don’t want to create a misleading impression. In trying to strike that balance, in a brief letter and in the middle of an election season, there is significant risk of being misunderstood, but I wanted you to hear directly from me about it.
Jim Comey
I know you think I'm just anti-Trump, but a lot of this is baked into the cake. Just as many of us who oppose Trump jumped offside thinking that the Access Hollywood tape would be the stake in the heart, so do many Republicans think this investigation of Huma Abedin is going to kill Hillary.
The Washington Post obtained the text of the letter he sent to FBI employees. Here it is in full:
Says right there, "They appear to pertinent".
Far cry from "may even be duplicates" etc. etc.
Says right there, "They appear to be pertinent".
I'm not in the camp that thinks this will kill Hillary's campaign, but I do believe it may greatly harm her..polls show she is already not trusted and this will add more fuel to the fire no matter how it plays out.@sinkspur
And if he's saying "appear to be pertinent" in public (or semi-public), I think it implies that the investigative team told him something pretty big. Why else would he stir up this hornet nest at this point in the campaign?
I'm still trying to get my head around the possible reasons....
The Clinton campaign are saying they maybe duplicates...Comey has only released two statements today and both posted here.
The Clinton campaign are saying they maybe duplicates...Comey has only released two statements today and both posted here.
OK, this is the Clinton machine we're talking about, so they may be telling the barest of bare truth that these are "duplicates" of something the FBI had seen. But duplicates of what?
One would think that if they're "duplicates" of stuff the FBI has already seen, then they wouldn't justify re-opening the investigation, having already been cleared by them, supposedly. But Comey is re-opening the investigation, so there's something different about these "duplicates." Some new information that was not included in the original investigation.
Which makes me wonder. Maybe they were duplicates of emails that were kept out of view due to an immunity deal. For example, suppose in the FBI's immunity deal they agreed not to use any emails found on Cheryl Mills' computer. But if they were found on Anthony Wiener's computer, and also on Huma's computer.... then they're not covered by the deal.
Something like that....
Comey will have to justify coming forward now with this, at some point. Sooner rather than later.
If he doesn't, and Hillary wins, his career is over.
Right so Williams or whoever says they may be duplicates as if he has insider information. And is promptly posted by Sinkspur who wants to ruin our fun...
If he doesn't, and Hillary wins, his career is over.
I don't know where the *duplicate* story came from but it did not come from Comey's public released statements......and we all know Williams is a Clinton lapdog...so I imagine he is spreading this part of the story.
Right so Williams or whoever says they may be duplicates as if he has insider information. And is promptly posted by Sinkspur who wants to ruin our fun...
NBC/Pete Williams: 'they are not e-mails from Clinton'. I say w/out clarification Comey must resign
Trisha Peach @Ptrishapeach
Reddit is showing that Obama today quietly cancelled several upcoming Hillary rally appearances. #HillarysEmails
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Hmmmm. Comey didn't do this on his own. It wasn't spur of the moment, and it wasn't a solo act. Something as big as this involved a lot of people, beginning with the investigative team that briefed Comey; and then all the lawyers and advisors who worked with him prior to his sending the letter out.
So they're not "from Clinton?" OK -- but they're pertinent to the investigation and important enough to announce before the election. And other stories have it that Huma Abedin was involved, and likely to have sent things to her own and Wiener's account so that she could print them out for Hillary Clinton.
This is the damndest thing...
It only ends up making Clinton look like a victim of a reckless, grossly negligent aide who betrayed Clinton's confidence and trust.
I don't know where the *duplicate* story came from but it did not come from Comey's public released statements......and we all know Williams is a Clinton lapdog...so I imagine he is spreading this part of the story.
From the LA Times:
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It only ends up making Clinton look like a victim of a reckless, grossly negligent aide who betrayed Clinton's confidence and trust.
Pete Williams is a former Cheney aide.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Williams_(journalist)
It only ends up making Clinton look like a victim of a reckless, grossly negligent aide who betrayed Clinton's confidence and trust.
Well, maybe.... but if it's really no big deal, why create this firestorm now, when you have all the time in the world after the election to exercise an "abundance of caution" about pertinent emails that turned up in an "unrelated case?"
From the LA Times:
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This note to FBI employees sure makes Comey look tentative about what he did:
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Yep. We're all just going to have to wait and see. My expectation is that nothing will be resolved prior to the election, and all we'll get between now and then is speculation and spin.
Yep. We're all just going to have to wait and see. My expectation is that nothing will be resolved prior to the election, and all we'll get between now and then is speculation and spin.
Do you have a link so I can read the entire article?
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-fbi-clinton-email-probe-20161028-story.html
Are there more wikileaks dumps coming?
Look at it this way...Hillary herself is shaken..she had to put herself in from of the press tonight something she hates to do...albeit it was a friendly presser...remember this is an ongoing investigation and Comey will/should not make anymore statements now...so we won't know anything until he decides to tell us.
nothing new in that article
They have an unnamed "official" saying this or that. :shrug:
Even if nothing comes of this, I think the whole thing will put a bad taste in American's mouths. I know it has for me.
Hillary is above the law, as we all know.
This Comey thing is going to turn out to be a big nothing.
Except it will reveal Comey to be a political animal, and he'll be gone in a Clinton Administration.
So says the guy who pretended to be a preacher on Free Republic. 22222frying pan
Not at all. I feel bad about divulging this information actually...
It must have been a very short press conference as well; only minutes, I didn't see it but that is what it sounds like.
LOL!! You mad?
No sir. You're mad you horses ***. You do nothing but bash Donny here. The other day you told people who decided to vote for Trump, even though they were sick with the idea, that they were garbage. Do you have a real ****** job dude? It is 24/7 with your bull****. 50 posts a day of nonsense. Anyone says something remotely nice about Donny you are up there **** like a crack whore looking for a fix. If you lived in the real world you would have noticed that he is running against an extremely terrible person who actually has gotten people killed and is a generally awful person. You say nothing about her. Both candidates suck. There is no win here, but to focus on one singular candidate the way you have tells me you live a life of worthlessness and should find a hobby or someone you can date.
In summary, go **** your self and finally move out of your mothers basement ******.
No sir. You're mad you horses ass.
I'll put you down as "not a fan."
And, I was once like you when I drank.
Pssst! Ask Frank out on a date.... :silly:
Drinking and driving goes away if the cops don't catch you.
Drinking and posting lives on forever..........
And so does your nonstop hate show. I have had enough of your fake high minded bullshit. You are a genuine low level player
It must have been a very short press conference as well; only minutes, I didn't see it but that is what it sounds like.
Sleep it off, Frank.
I am #NeverTrump and #NeverHillary.
On the contrary, I am just like you. I despise Trump just as you do.
And I despise Hillary. So I'm not sure where we differ.
I admire your witticisms and sharp posts. You don't like mine.
Have it your way. I am not going to stop until Trump is defeated.
You know what? Your never nothing. I don't think you have made a tough choice in your whole goddam life.
C'mon guys. You both are better than this.
C'mon guys. You both are better than this.
Mark Cuban @mcuban 36m36 minutes ago
.@mcuban 7) Hillary never saw the emails just the printouts 8)FBI previously reported Huma didn't get docs marked classified 9) relax
Mark Cuban @mcuban 41m41 minutes ago
1) emails went to Huma for Hillary
2) Huma forwarded to acct she used for husband connected to printer
3) Huma printed for Hillary
Mark Cuban @mcuban 40m40 minutes ago
.@mcuban 4) FBI got the device Huma used with that account 5) FBI is reviewing the emails on the device for classified docs
I quit drinking. Is that a tough choice YOU would want to make?
OK. I went and got my wear Word Coloring Book out. I need some help with the color of "fake high minded bullshit". Maybe I should start with grass green and work my way out to "babyshit" yellow?
I cleaned up a few words. Please stop with the attacks and return to the topic.
I cleaned up a few words. Please stop with the attacks and return to the topic.
Because he's an economic illiterate, that's why.
Wall Street doesn't like uncertainty.
@Frank Cannon would you please remove that animated gif of the dtipping blood from your tagline? I find it very distracting, especially on threads where you are a prolific poster.
I just heard it from a friend of a friend that Hillary and Anthony were sexting.
@Frank Cannon would you please remove that animated gif of the dtipping blood from your tagline? I find it very distracting, especially on threads where you are a prolific poster.
It shall be removed Monday at midnight....after I have fully irritated every single person on this board with it.
This man has the truth of the matter. I had already read how Huma printed the emails. She couldn't figure out how to print from the secure computer at the State Dept., so she sent the emails to her account with husband which was connected to a printer, and printed them.
You are saying she sent emails to her home computer from a secure computer at the State department.
How?
Think about what makes a secure computer... secure.
Snowden worked on secure computers. He didn't email his private home email account the information he stole. Why?
Think about that and you'll understand why what you wrote is an impossibility. It's not physically possible.
Surely you've heard of a thumb drive (rolls eyes)
This man has the truth of the matter. I had already read how Huma printed the emails. She couldn't figure out how to print from the secure computer at the State Dept., so she sent the emails to her account with husband which was connected to a printer, and printed them.
Surely you've heard of a thumb drive (rolls eyes)
Most classified govt computers have thumb drives turned off. Snowden was an administrator and had access to them. The average bear doesnt.
I love the gifs too but they can be distracting...I will not ban them but will try to limit the size of them especially with Christmas approaching.
Most classified govt computers have thumb drives turned off. Snowden was an administrator and had access to them. The average bear doesnt.
You are correct, of course.
Except Huma is not the average bear. She's the ADC and gatekeeper to the boss, so if she wants something, it will happen.
Does Huma file an expense report for printer ink and paper...lol
I love the gifs too but they can be distracting...I will not ban them but will try to limit the size of them especially with Christmas approaching.
Fox News @FoxNews 7m7 minutes ago
.@Jamie_Weinstein: "If @HillaryClinton wins this election you have the potential out there that she may be indicted as the President-Elect."
After I get done festooning my posts with the Christmas spirit of 12-16 animated GIFs, you're gonna wanna rethink that non banning policy.
Daniel Horowitz @RMConservative 28m28 minutes ago
This is reason 3 million why its stupid to have a protracted period of early voting where people are voting based on different info
At times I've seen it described as hatred....
Surely you've heard of a thumb drive (rolls eyes)
That's not the situation described, which was emails being sent from a secure computer directly to one's home email address.
Newest information in the news is that the emails found on the computer aren't new, that they are the same as what they already have.
Just that they were on a new computer (the Huma/Weiner one).
Newest information in the news is that the emails found on the computer aren't new, that they are the same as what they already have.
Just that they were on a new computer (the Huma/Weiner one).
Newest information in the news is that the emails found on the computer aren't new, that they are the same as what they already have.
Just that they were on a new computer (the Huma/Weiner one).
Newest information in the news is that the emails found on the computer aren't new, that they are the same as what they already have.
Just that they were on a new computer (the Huma/Weiner one).
LOL. I hope Peggy was nobody important.
@mystery-ak
I wonder if she can pardon herself?
Who's Mark Levin?
Hmm...sounds like someone I used to know. It might come back to me in about 10 or 11 days.
Which is why Comey reopened the investigation? I seriously doubt that. There's something different about the e-mails that makes them "pertinent," which already-evaluated duplicates wouldn't do.
http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=45790
Breaking: Hillary throws Huma Abedin off her plane!
under the bus888
Poor Huma will be the scapegoat in all this although I am sure she was just following orders. If you are going to be a *friend* of any of the Clintons make sure you have an attorney on retainer.
http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=45790
Breaking: Hillary throws Huma Abedin off her plane!
under the bus888
Poor Huma will be the scapegoat in all this although I am sure she was just following orders. If you are going to be a *friend* of any of the Clintons make sure you have an attorney on retainer.
Comey's really just covering his ass. He closed the FBI's investigation into the e-mail server within the last few months, on the basis of evidence requested and received from those being investigated, not seized. In the Weiner investigation, a computer was actually seized, for evidence regarding an unrelated investigation. Lo and behold, the perp's computer was shared with his spouse, Hillary Clinton's closest aide. And it's littered with forwarded e-mails, and attachments, that Huma, it appears, wanted to able to print out from home. Oops, Huma.
Comey must have been shitting bricks. His subpoena didn't allow him to look at Huma's forwarded e-mail, just her husband's dickshots. He knew he had to get a new subpoena to check to see whether the "thousands" of forwarded Huma e-mails were new, unknown classified stuff. They most likely aren't - they may well be the same e-mails turned over before to the FBI. But Comey can't be sure until he has the legal authority to check, and to get that authority he has to re-open the investigation.
And he knows this less than two weeks before the election. Shitting bricks, he knows he can't just shut up and be discovered as knowing the Huma e-mails were out there and concealing the news until Hillary was safely elected - he'll be crucified by Congress. So he decided to cover his ass by telling Congress, with the vaguest of explanations, that he may reopen the investigation. And now Hillary's shitting bricks, because the election's in a fortnight and she's boxing at shadows.
Gonna sit back and open the bag o' popcorn. :pop41: It'll go good with a dram of Ardbeg.
http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=45790
Breaking: Hillary throws Huma Abedin off her plane!
under the bus888
Poor Huma will be the scapegoat in all this although I am sure she was just following orders. If you are going to be a *friend* of any of the Clintons make sure you have an attorney on retainer.
Modern candidates have their closest advisers and staff sign Non Disclosure Agreements.
Clinton has them sign a DNR (Do Not Resuscitate) letter.
:silly:
Everything about this development is extraordinary. This is not a typical "let it blow over" episode. I especially believe Comey had no choice to re-open this. The pressure on him had to be unreal. And scapegoat? Hell, she may turn State's witness.
Yet, it might become Ho-Hum as many believe.
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caption: Image surfaces of Huma Abedin crying on plane as Clinton Campaign finds out the FBI has re-opened the email investigation.
In this picture: Huma's crying and Hillary is sizing her up to see if she'll fit under the bus.
Seriously: that picture says it all. You don't piss off thegodfathergodmother. Ever.
I was just going to post this pic..Hillary looks pissed....Huma had to leave the plane..wonder how she got home..lol
duh
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http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/29/dc-attorney-fbi-never-destroyed-laptops-of-clinton-aides/
DC Attorney: FBI Never Destroyed Laptops Of Clinton Aides
FBI Director James Comey announced Friday that emails relating to the closed investigation into Clinton’s private email server were found on a computer belonging to Anthony Weiner, former New York congressman and estranged husband of a Clinton aide Huma Abedin.
@mystery-ak
Something tells me those divorce proceedings just came to a sudden screeching halt.
I couldn't explain why, but I can't help feeling a little bit sorry for Huma Abedin. She's crooked, a Hillary enabler, and all that... but I feel sorry for her.
@mystery-ak
Something tells me those divorce proceedings just came to a sudden screeching halt.
In a way I do to...people always get caught up in the Clinton Crime Syndicate..and then get thrown to the wolves.
@mystery-akI feel absolutely nothing but contempt for all of the major players in the Clinton crime syndicate.
Don't feel sorry for her. Feel sorry for all the people SHE threw under the bus to get and remain where she was before being booted off the plane.
@mystery-ak
Don't feel sorry for her. Feel sorry for all the people SHE threw under the bus to get and remain where she was before being booted off the plane.
@mystery-ak
Something tells me those divorce proceedings just came to a sudden screeching halt.
I have been thinking the same thing.
I'm with you on this one.
She chose her path and she'll have to deal with the consequences of it.
I have no doubt that she's as evil as her pal Hillary and her "husband" Anthony.
Which is why Comey reopened the investigation? I seriously doubt that. There's something different about the e-mails that makes them "pertinent," which already-evaluated duplicates wouldn't do.
They were throwing that version around last night but pundits today argue if they were duplicates why did Comey do this...it would be old news..they argued the Feds found something big and they brought it to Comey and demanded he address this..kind of a blackmail type situation..that's why he disregarded Lynch and sent the letters to Congress....more speculation of course
Comey's letter and his internal FBI one show that he is extremely unsure about the new information.
Whatever. You're sure that nothing will come of this, and maybe you're right.
But you're also so sure, that you're not open to discussion, and that's too bad.
So there was "no intent" on Hillary's part, but if ONE classified e-mail from her private server made it to this laptop how would that not be a major penalty against the whole damn bunch? It does matter if it is a classified duplicate. The e-mails talk about how Chaffetz or Gowdy weren't looking at the "classified" e-mail. Maybe now they can.
PS: In all this talk since last night NOT ONE OF YOU has helped me a bit with my color scheme. Thanks a whole bunch.
All that may be so. Nevertheless, and for reasons I cannot explain, I do feel sorry for her.
They were throwing that version around last night but pundits today argue if they were duplicates why did Comey do this...it would be old news..they argued the Feds found something big and they brought it to Comey and demanded he address this..kind of a blackmail type situation..that's why he disregarded Lynch and sent the letters to Congress....more speculation of course@mystery-ak
I don't feel sorry for her. I do feel a bit of pity for her. Different things altogether.
@mystery-ak
It is 8:01 pm, central standard time and Comey said today his FBI does not have a search warrant to search the emails - this means he has no idea what is in them, whether they are copies of others the FBI does have - or not.
He said he did not know when they could get a search warrant. I think he has lost his mind trying to give himself some credence but this last statement means he has nothing and doesn't know if he ever will.
@mystery-ak
It is 8:01 pm, central standard time and Comey said today his FBI does not have a search warrant to search the emails - this means he has no idea what is in them, whether they are copies of others the FBI does have - or not.
He said he did not know when they could get a search warrant. I think he has lost his mind trying to give himself some credence but this last statement means he has nothing and doesn't know if he ever will.
http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=45790@mystery-ak
Breaking: Hillary throws Huma Abedin off her plane!
Poor Huma will be the scapegoat in all this although I am sure she was just following orders. If you are going to be a *friend* of any of the Clintons make sure you have an attorney on retainer.
I cannot find any reference that Comey has said that...NBC News surmised that.@mystery-ak
Neither Comey or the FBI has released any statement today.
@mystery-ak
I got it from Fox News that Comey said it. I'll look for more validation.
Report: The FBI still doesn't have a warrant to review new emails related to the Clinton investigationI see something about this.
http://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-clinton-emails-huma-abedin-warrant-comey-2016-10
@mystery-ak
myst, you know better than this - the article said Huma wasn't with Clinton today on her way to Florida. It isn't truthful to say Clinton threw her off the plane. Think about it - the best thing Huma can do for herself, is stay silent and out of the picture. Huma does not know what the FBI is going to do and anything Huma says to anyone is going to be taken apart, word for word so she needs to stay silent. I am sure she has a lawyer and he has her nailed down staying away from everyone.
I cannot find any reference that Comey has said that...NBC News surmised that.
Neither Comey or the FBI has released any statement today.
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/fbi-warrant-shared-anthony-weiner/2016/10/28/id/755910/
Report: The FBI still doesn't have a warrant to review new emails related to the Clinton investigation
@mystery-ak
In this letter to his FBI group Comey says about the emails, "'I agreed that we should take appropriate steps to obtain and review them,” he told agents.'"
A message that Comey wrote to all FBI agents Friday seeking to explain his decision to write the controversial letter strongly hinted that investigators did not not yet have legal authority establishing “probable cause” to review the content of Abedin’s emails on Weiner’s electronic devices.
In that message, Comey told agents that he had only been briefed on Thursday about the matter and that the “recommendation” of investigators was “with respect to seeking access to emails that have recently been found in an unrelated case.”
Comey approved the recommendation to seek judicial access to the material that day, he wrote.
“Because those emails appear to be pertinent to our investigation, I agreed that we should take appropriate steps to obtain and review them,” he told agents.
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Then we have as of Saturday night, article by Michael Isikoff:
"The FBI had still not gotten approval from the Justice Department for a warrant that would allow agency officials to read any of the newly discovered Abedin emails, and therefore are still in the dark about whether they include any classified material that the bureau has not already seen."
“We do not have a warrant,” a senior law enforcement official said. “Discussions are under way [between the FBI and the Justice Department] as to the best way to move forward.”
Perhaps this will be made even clearer by tomorrow.
I didn't say it...that was the headline from the article@mystery-ak
“Because those emails appear to be pertinent to our investigation, I agreed that we should take appropriate steps to obtain and review them,” he told agents.
Someone HAS read those emails. They KNOW there is information "pertinent to our investigation" by the FBI. And they aren't letting this slide.
@mystery-ak
What I meant was I didn't think you should have posted it because it isn't true. There is so much misinformation going around, "I" would not have posted it. We have a difference of opinion on this one - it seldom happens.
Sure looks like a cluster.
Sure looks like a cluster.
FUBAR
Former FBI Agent on Reopened Criminal Investigation: ‘Agency Would be Remiss in not Moving Forward’
The FBI routinely reopens criminal investigation when it discovers significant new evidence, says Nancy Savage, a former FBI agent who is now executive director of the Society of Former Special Agents of the FBI.
“That’s pretty much SOP — I’ve done it myself many a time — if you develop new information,” she told Breitbart News from her office in Dumfries, Va. “There’s no double jeopardy issue for someone who hasn’t been charged,” said Savage, who retired from the FBI after 35 years in the agency.
If you develop further evidence of a crime as such, and it is relevant to the charges, you have to open the case so you can start investigating again, and that’s obviously what’s happened … it would be a requirement to do so … [and] if this other information is presented to you, the agency would be remiss in not moving forward
In a letter to Congress on Friday, FBI director James Comey said the FBI has learned about the existence of more emails linked to the FBI’s investigation of the Hillary Clinton’s home-built email network. “I am writing to inform you that the investigative team briefed by on this yesterday, and I agreed that the FBI should take appropriate investigative steps designed to allow investigators to review these emails to determine whether they contain classified information, as well as to assess their importance to our investigation,” Comey said.
Media reports on Friday say the investigation has been reopened following the discovering of incriminating emails on phones used by her top aide, Huma Abedin and by Abedin’s husband, former Rep. Anthony Weiner.
Read More At: http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/28/former-fbi-agent-email-investigation/
EXCLUSIVE: FBI Mutiny Reopened Clinton Investigation…
Upcoming leaks pertaining to Hillary Clinton have forced the hand of the FBI into re-opening their investigation into the crooked candidate.
Sources speaking with Infowars say an internal struggle at the FBI has reached a boiling point following FBI Director James Comey’s original decision not to pursue criminal charges.
Comey cited “recent developments” for the bureau’s decision Friday in a letter to lawmakers.
“In previous congressional testimony, I referred to the fact that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) had completed its investigation of former Secretary Clinton’s personal email server. Due to recent developments, I am writing to supplement my previous testimony,” Comey wrote.
More: http://megynkelly.org/191817/exclusive-fbi-mutiny-reopened-clinton-investigation/
Oh, sure, FUBAR, I still have some respect for what the FBI does.
I, for one, believe there are a host of agents dedicated to their purpose. And there are a large number of Americans that DO believe they have a skin in this election.
Hillary sent 'marked classified' info to nonsecure Abedin account
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2016/10/hillary-sent-marked-classified-info-to-nonsecure-abedin-account/#ewmhEumKUZt8XecY.99
Oh, sure, FUBAR, I still have some respect for what the FBI does.
You guys are speaking a foreign language. I don't know what FUBAR is.
OK thank you. I kind of thought the FU might be that. But you never know.
LOL..sorry....I have heard that all my life coming from a military family and marrying into one..I just assumed everyone knows what it means....it's commonly used in the military as you can guess..lol
LOL..sorry....I have heard that all my life coming from a military family and marrying into one..I just assumed everyone knows what it means....it's commonly used in the military as you can guess..lol@mystery-ak
You guys are speaking a foreign language. I don't know what FUBAR is.
A husband or wife can not be compelled to testify against the other?
When it comes to classified they don't have to show intent to get a conviction. Unless you're a clinton.
Does the article say they didn't have the search warrant because the Justice Department didn't authorize it? Seems so. That almost sounds like obstruction.
I, for one, believe there are a host of agents dedicated to their purpose. And there are a large number of Americans that DO believe they have a skin in this election.
@driftdiver
I was a career NCO in the Army and had a Top Secret clearance. "Intent" wasn't even a word you heard. Nobody gave a damn what your "intent" was,they cared about your being careless or purposely disclosing classified information. Either way,you got hammered. Everybody knew that you couldn't call a "Opps! My bad! moment" and not expect a brick wall coming down on you going in and acted accordingly. You would be prosecuted for what you DID,regardless of the circumstances. Both lives and sometimes National Security were involved.
@bigheadfred
I agree. You would have to search long and hard to find a group of more dedicated men and women than the typical FBI field agent. These guys are "wear red and march in a straight line people who have dedicated their lives to enforcing and obeying laws.
The Feeb bosses are all political appointees and as crooked as crooked gets,but not the career agents.
The only ones I can think of that match that level of dedication is the Secret Service people. Some of them have to live with the political scum they are sworn to protect,and keep silent about all the criminal acts they witness because they can't do their jobs if they are judgemental. I wouldn't take that job for a million bucks a year.
@sneakypete @bigheadfred
I'd like to believe that considering how much power they wield. Then I think of agents like Lon Horuchi (the guy who shot weavers unarmed wife) and also who shot unarmed women and men running out of the burning building. Those who pumped tear gas in such quantities that it asphyxiated the people inside.
They may start out dedicated but the FBI is a political arm of the White House and has been for a long time.
@sneakypete
I was 10 years air force and had above TS. Had my rights read to me 3 times for mistakes other people made. Saw numerous people get charged for a fraction of what these folks were doing.
I would say that every law enforcement agency in this country is a political arm to some degree including every police department right down to the smallest one. Get on the bad side of a local police chief or sherrif and see what happens to you. The Lavoy Finicum case has me screaming "murdering JBTs". So even being a political arm of the WH there are two political sides (basiclly). And one of those sides opposes hillary. It is completely unfair (IMO) to categorize the entire FBI as gone "bad". The rule of law isn't entirely dead or we wouldn't even be discussing this. It would have never come out.
@driftdiver
I was a career NCO in the Army and had a Top Secret clearance. "Intent" wasn't even a word you heard. Nobody gave a damn what your "intent" was,they cared about your being careless or purposely disclosing classified information. Either way,you got hammered. Everybody knew that you couldn't call a "Opps! My bad! moment" and not expect a brick wall coming down on you going in and acted accordingly. You would be prosecuted for what you DID,regardless of the circumstances. Both lives and sometimes National Security were involved.
That's how I remember it as well. I don't think I ever once heard anyone asked about what they intended to do.
Based on recent prosecutions, they still don't. Unless one is a member of the Clinton syndicate, in which case forgetfulness, ignorance, and "lack of intent" -- real or feigned -- are a get-out-of-jail-free card.
John Podhoretz @jpodhoretz 50s50 seconds ago Manhattan, NYWell, I am changing my forecast. I think the lousiest GOP candidate in history will likely get dragged across the finish line by Julian Assange. All of this without my help, of course.
think about it for more than 10 seconds and you think FBI has something in hand that's already huge trouble or there'd be no point to this
Chuck Woolery @chuckwoolery 2m2 minutes ago
TopCop takes the fifth. Hillary back under investigation with FBI. Wikileaks exposing Graft unethical behavior by Hillary and staff. Polls?
Huma's connection to the Muslim Brotherhood negates any feelings of sympathy. She deserves none. IMO