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Politics/Government / Re: Elon Musk issues incendiary threat to Republican lawmakers backing Trump's megabill
« Last post by roamer_1 on July 05, 2025, 06:31:32 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on July 05, 2025, 06:25:24 pm
Looking at demographics, and what I feel is a seriatim of political philosophy up the spectra, my estimate is that Musk's little bright idea might mean 50 years of left rule. 

We'd be basically Anglicizing ourselves into a system where Conservative (aka UK) aren't even Conservative.

Sorry pal... We're already there. When it comes to big government, the two parties hold no difference. Republicans are not serious about Conservatism, and haven't been for a very long time.
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Politics/Government / Re: BREAKING: MTG Introduces Bill to Make ‘Deadly’ Weather Manipulation a Felony—Here Are the Detail
« Last post by roamer_1 on July 05, 2025, 06:28:34 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 05, 2025, 06:17:38 pm
If you want to pull something outrageous and not even have people believe it, then do something really outrageous. The best defense the Obama Administration (and the Clintons) had was to do things that sounded like some whacko conspiracy theory, which were evenly dismissed. I still wonder how many tons of tungsten are wrapped in gold in Ft. Knox.

The Biden administration freely admitted to seeding the air with heavy metals (among other things), purportedly as part of their battle against climate change... Mentioned in a matter-of-fact way as if everybody already knew it. He didn't come right out and say 'chem trails' but there is no way he could mean anything else.
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Politics/Government / Re: Elon Musk issues incendiary threat to Republican lawmakers backing Trump's megabill
« Last post by catfish1957 on July 05, 2025, 06:25:24 pm »
Looking at demographics, and what I feel is a seriatim of political philosophy up the spectra, my estimate is that Musk's little bright idea might mean 50 years of left rule. 

We'd be basically Anglicizing ourselves into a system where Conservative (aka UK) aren't even Conservative. 
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Politics/Government / Re: BREAKING: MTG Introduces Bill to Make ‘Deadly’ Weather Manipulation a Felony—Here Are the Detail
« Last post by Smokin Joe on July 05, 2025, 06:17:38 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on July 05, 2025, 05:37:57 pm
Folks should research. Chem trails have been tacitly admitted for some years now. I wonder how folks can't believe their own lying eyes when they see checkerboard patterns in the sky.

I have told y'all before - I have had my hand in a bigfoot track twice in my life - Undeniable. And my witness is met with derision. Chem trails are treated to much the same derision - And that derision very successfully causes people to waive it off with a chuckle... And even minimal research is left wanting. And the truth is buried.
If you want to pull something outrageous and not even have people believe it, then do something really outrageous. The best defense the Obama Administration (and the Clintons) had was to do things that sounded like some whacko conspiracy theory, which were evenly dismissed. I still wonder how many tons of tungsten are wrapped in gold in Ft. Knox.
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Politics/Government / Re: How your income taxes will change after Trump signs the ‘big, beautiful bill’ into law
« Last post by Fishrrman on July 05, 2025, 06:16:11 pm »
I did some quick n dirty calculations using my 2024 taxes, and the additional $6,000 deduction for Social Security looks like it could same me about $1020+/- on my taxes, other numbers notwithstanding.

Although, for RR Retirement, it's not "Social Security" but rather something called "Tier 1 -- SS equivalent benefit". Will just have to wait and see.
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Politics/Government / Re: Musk’s primary threats pose danger for Republicans
« Last post by roamer_1 on July 05, 2025, 06:12:27 pm »
Quote from: Fishrrman on July 05, 2025, 06:03:01 pm

Mr. Trump will not balance the budget. But we knew that.
NO Republican will balance the budget. But we know that, too.

You will not live to see a balanced budget.
If you have children, they will not live to see a balanced budget
If you have grandchildren, they will not live to see a balanced budget.
A self-fulfilling prophecy, Fishrrman, since if we do not balance the budget, there will not be a United States for our children to inherit.
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Politics/Government / Re: BREAKING: MTG Introduces Bill to Make ‘Deadly’ Weather Manipulation a Felony—Here Are the Detail
« Last post by Fishrrman on July 05, 2025, 06:10:36 pm »
Agree with Smokin' Joe.

If there aren't restrictions in place, sooner or later someone will try using some kind of tech to fundamentally alter the weather. Perhaps on a grand scale.

And the results will be...??

If you don't spell out in advance what is permissible and what is not, the left will jump into that "vacuum" and run away with their agenda.

How do you think any of The Founders would have replied if you asked them (back in the 1780's) if the Constitution they had just written protected homosexual marriage or trans-sexual surgery on minors?
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Politics/Government / Re: Musk’s primary threats pose danger for Republicans
« Last post by Hoodat on July 05, 2025, 06:05:47 pm »
Quote from: Fishrrman on July 05, 2025, 06:03:01 pm
You will not live to see a balanced budget.
If you have children, they will not live to see a balanced budget
If you have grandchildren, they will not live to see a balanced budget.

You're right.  As long as Republicans are in charge.
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Politics/Government / Re: Musk’s primary threats pose danger for Republicans
« Last post by Fishrrman on July 05, 2025, 06:03:01 pm »
Hoodat prognosticates:
"If Republicans balanced the budget, there would no longer be a Democrat Party."

Mr. Trump will not balance the budget. But we knew that.
NO Republican will balance the budget. But we know that, too.

You will not live to see a balanced budget.
If you have children, they will not live to see a balanced budget
If you have grandchildren, they will not live to see a balanced budget.

Nothing against your opinion.
But the reality of the current situation points towards a different future.

Perhaps there will someday occur a calamity ... one so great that when (years later) the dust clears away, there MIGHT BE a "balanced" budget.

But the intervening events to reach that point are not any you or I, nor any other member of this forum would care to live through.

Hmmm... re the actual topic of the thread...
Although Mr. Musk is the wealthiest of all men, I really don't think his attempt at creating a "new" party will produce results any more lasting than, say, H. Ross Perot was able to obtain some years' back.

Now... If Mr. Trump proclaimed the creation of a new party... that could possibly get somewhere.
He is, after all, the first "independent" to be elected president.

Oh, no, you'll reply, he's "a Republican".
Well, not really.
Mr. Trump ... three times (not one, not two, but THREE)... stole the Republican Party's horse, jumped aboard, and rode to victories. He was cheated out of one of them. But the other two count...
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Politics/Government / Re: Elon Musk announces the formation of his third party — the America Party.
« Last post by Hoodat on July 05, 2025, 05:58:42 pm »
Quote from: 240B on July 05, 2025, 05:52:13 pm
Made me laugh. Yeah right? Let's all join the new Reform Party!
Elon is a bipolar genius. He is as unstable as he is brilliant.

As we have already seen, a month from now he may say ...
Nope, changed my mind. I'm back with Trump now.

Elon Musk is Great! (but he is also bonkers)

Say what you want about Musk.  But he handed you a winning strategy that would cement Republican control over government for the next quarter century.  Yet when the vote came down, the current Party chose Democrat-lite.  Again.  So the Dems will still have $40 billion in USAID money over the next two years to siphon from to fund their 2026 races.  All because Republicans stupidly chose to reject the gift that Musk handed them.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.
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