Speaker of the House Paul Ryan advised Republicans to run away from candidate Donald Trump before the election in order to save themselves and hold a future-President Hillary Clinton accountable
Words fail me. The GOPe truly wanted Hillary to win. Are there any lingering doubts that a major portion of the GOP Congressional Caucus is actively working against the President's agenda?? Anyone still think Congress will pass healthcare and tax reform??
BTW, just caught Gohmert on Fox and he confirmed this. He still sounded incredulous.
Words would, predictably, fail the morons who saddled us with Trump in the GOP primaries.
Words would, predictably, fail the morons who saddled us with Trump in the GOP primaries.
Oh, do give it a rest. You hate Trump. You're pissed as hell that he won the primary and the general election. I get it. We ALL get it @Oceander
But your need to cling to this hate and anger is not enough of a justification to point a "guilty" finger at the citizens who elected Donald Trump instead of the Republicans fighting to keep Obamacare and against tax reform.
Just how badly do you want to punish this generation of Americans and the ones to follow because your candidate lost?
Oceander and RIV please stop!
However one feels about the Trump Wars, there's no denying Ryan did his level best to sabotage the Nominee of his own party.
Yes, he went over to Ryan's office and forced him to refuse to accept Trump as the Nominee. *****rollingeyes*****
Ambulance chasers love them some Democrats.
What, if anything, does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
Are there any lingering doubts that a major portion of the GOP Congressional Caucus is actively working against the President's agenda??
The Republican Party will not survive the Trump administration. Whatever hopes we had of moving in a more conservative direction can be abandoned. Trump happened, and, barring a miracle, Constitutional conservatism will end up being the casualty. No one will care what any Republican has to say about anything after this administration because they'll lump us all in with Trumpism. And, of course, he keeps adding fuel to the fire because of his thin skin, so the chaos will be with us all through his administration.
These are the things that much of the Republican party understood if Trump became the nominee. Both RINO and true conservative knew this but have had to give the impression of a united front for the sake of the party. Everyone knew it could only last for so long because Trump is Trump. My embarrassment of having him as president is only outweighed by my abject fear of what is yet to become of conservatism. At some point, someone will need to bugle "Taps" for the party of Lincoln.
8888crybaby
Words fail me. The GOPe truly wanted Hillary to win. Are there any lingering doubts that a major portion of the GOP Congressional Caucus is actively working against the President's agenda?? Anyone still think Congress will pass healthcare and tax reform??
BTW, just caught Gohmert on Fox and he confirmed this. He still sounded incredulous.
The Republican Party will not survive the Trump administration. Whatever hopes we had of moving in a more conservative direction can be abandoned. Trump happened, and, barring a miracle, Constitutional conservatism will end up being the casualty. No one will care what any Republican has to say about anything after this administration because they'll lump us all in with Trumpism. And, of course, he keeps adding fuel to the fire because of his thin skin, so the chaos will be with us all through his administration.
These are the things that much of the Republican party understood if Trump became the nominee. Both RINO and true conservative knew this but have had to give the impression of a united front for the sake of the party. Everyone knew it could only last for so long because Trump is Trump. My embarrassment of having him as president is only outweighed by my abject fear of what is yet to become of conservatism. At some point, someone will need to bugle "Taps" for the party of Lincoln.
8888crybaby
If we can elect 5 or 6 more real conservatives to the Senate who will follow Ted Cruz and Mike Lee, we could reclaim the party and the country.
Are there any lingering doubts that the majority of the Republican Party caucus are Democrat/Leftist/Statists who have infiltrated it and taken the party for their own?
But please, continue voting for them - because you know.... the alternative is 'worse'.
Gohmert is the best. Great guy.
I think the 2018 elections will tell us something as will the Alabama election.
Most people want Obamacare gone. The Republicans claim to, but refuse to act. Maybe they're waiting for someone else to blame it on.
If we can elect 5 or 6 more real conservatives to the Senate who will follow Ted Cruz and Mike Lee, we could reclaim the party and the country.
I exercise my Constitutionally guaranteed right to vote based on the choices I have. I am not one to take my marbles and stay home because a fantasy candidate is not on the ballot.
I'm not going to change @INVAR.. so your time would be better spent opining about this to someone else.
I exercise my Constitutionally guaranteed right to vote based on the choices I have. I am not one to take my marbles and stay home because a fantasy candidate is not on the ballot.
I'm not going to change @INVAR.. so your time would be better spent opining about this to someone else.
I disagree with you on a lot of things...
I exercise my Constitutionally guaranteed right to vote based on the choices I have.
I am not one to take my marbles and stay home because a fantasy candidate is not on the ballot.
I'm not going to change @INVAR.. so your time would be better spent opining about this to someone else.
I exercise my Constitutionally guaranteed right to vote based on the choices I have. I am not one to take my marbles and stay home because a fantasy candidate is not on the ballot.
I'm not going to change @INVAR.. so your time would be better spent opining about this to someone else.
@INVAR, keep opining. Many others are reading.
You do realize I didn't suggest @INVAR stop opining @AllThatJazzZ .... just that he not waste time opining to me. Yes??
It's not for your benefit that I reply and opine. I have no allusions of waking up a party slave to what they refuse to see.
You do realize I didn't suggest @INVAR stop opining @AllThatJazzZ .... just that he not waste time opining to me. Yes??
Look how you speak to and demean those who challenge or disagree with you. Can you possibly still wonder why the voters have sent your ilk to the back bench?
Your insults overwhelm your political point @INVAR . Keep insulting those you need and even the mirror will turn its back on you.
I had to block Invar because he make me want to have a drink and it's not even 10 AM here.
@Right_in_Virginia, the best way for you to enjoy silence from @INVAR or anyone else you find annoying is to employ the ignore feature. I have been able to use it to my advantage in a couple of cases, and it's helped me not to get bogged down with folks whose POVs are almost never clearly or civilly presented. It saves me time. Just a thought...
..."You aren't the only person here..."
Thanks for the advice @AllThatJazzZ I'm happy it works for you.
Me? Except for one, I don't use the ignore feature. I like to know what's going on. ^-^
I think it's good form to let someone know further debate with me on any one subject is moot. This allows the other poster to move on to greener pastures.
Is this because you are getting me confused with Jazzhead? Just asking since it's happened to me a few times.
@Oceander
However one feels about the Trump Wars, there's no denying Ryan did his level best to sabotage the Nominee of his own party.
What makes you think he's stopped?
Look how you speak to and demean those who challenge or disagree with you. Can you possibly still wonder why the voters have sent your ilk to the back bench?
Your insults overwhelm your political point @INVAR . Keep insulting those you need and even the mirror will turn its back on you.
You can keep lying to yourself with that delusion, and refuse to acknowledge the fact that the rules were rewritten at the last two conventions to PROHIBIT any kind of grassroots Conservative from getting elected, not to mention the the oligarchy only rewards it's own Statists and punishes and ostracizes anyone who actually governs according to their oath.
There is no saving the Republican party. There is no place for Conservatives within the Republican party.
Only moderate Democrats, liberals and thanks to Trump, nationalist populists.
Conservatives were told to get out and hit the road. There will be no more Lees or Cruz or Pauls' to the GOP. The party only endorses and backs liberals.
Never said he did. I hated him since they announced he was Bonehead's replacement.
Invar, love ya, man, but I just can't figure out why you posted this. We know Trump is not a conservative, we know the RINOs in charge don't like conservatives, we know Trump and friends played dirty to win, and we know that Trump won and Clinton lost. Ok, got it.
What is it you are suggesting doing? Just slinging mud, however well deserved, doesn't get us anywhere except caught in this endless loop of internecine nagging and argument. I'm thinking the bad guys love seeing us do it, too.
Invar, love ya, man, but I just can't figure out why you posted this. We know Trump is not a conservative, we know the RINOs in charge don't like conservatives, we know Trump and friends played dirty to win, and we know that Trump won and Clinton lost. Ok, got it.
What is it you are suggesting doing? Just slinging mud, however well deserved, doesn't get us anywhere except caught in this endless loop of internecine nagging and argument. I'm thinking the bad guys love seeing us do it, too.
I posted the truth. The rules have been set to prohibit Conservatives from gaining any kind of leadership positions from within the Republican party, unless groomed and approved by the existing liberal Oligarchy that works in concert with Democrats.
As a principle, putting your faith in a wholly corrupted party in the hopes for a return to foundational principles is as stupid as prostrating before the Crown and parliament begging for relief from tyranny.
It's not gonna happen from within their party. It's not gonna happen using corrupted institutions.
It's going to have to occur from outside the diseased cesspool in D.C. It is going to have to occur in the character of this people first.
Putting all faith and hope in voting for someone into high office as some kind of relief and salvation from tyranny is idolatry, and all it does is signal the fact the people want a monarchy- not a Republic.
Yeah, well, your mother is fat and you brother is creepy!
Some truth doesn't need to be said.
Sometimes I feel like you just keep saying Trump is fat and Ivanka is creepy.
We know all the stuff you said, and many of us agree. So, who are you saying it to and why?
My mother and brother are both dead.
That is entirely how our entire society now operates. No truth is said.
And when it is.... well..... no one wants to hear it.
I've never commented on Trump's girth, nor have I ever commented on Ivanka outside of perhaps agreeing with someone who noted she is a raving liberal.
Anyone who wants to listen. Anyone who wants iron sharpened.
My mother and brother are both dead.
That is entirely how our entire society now operates. No truth is said.
And when it is.... well..... no one wants to hear it.
I've never commented on Trump's girth, nor have I ever commented on Ivanka outside of perhaps agreeing with someone who noted she is a raving liberal.
Anyone who wants to listen. Anyone who wants iron sharpened.
Yeah, well, your mother is fat and you brother is creepy!
More like, they wanted Trump to win, then remove him for Pence.
Oh, do give it a rest. You hate Trump. You're pissed as hell that he won the primary and the general election. I get it. We ALL get it @Oceander
But your need to cling to this hate and anger is not enough of a justification to point a "guilty" finger at the citizens who elected Donald Trump instead of the Republicans fighting to keep Obamacare and against tax reform.
Just how badly do you want to punish this generation of Americans and the ones to follow because your candidate lost?
I know that pisses you off, but it has me scratching my head too....
RIV, I too think it was a mistake to nominate Trump during the primaries, however, I have accepted him as our President and have praised him when I felt praise is due. How anyone cannot see the blatant attempt to derail his presidency by the MSM, the DEMS and the RINO's (including Ryan) is beyond me. I have voted in quite a few elections and have never witnessed what seems like such an organized attempt against a sitting president; this started even before he was sworn in. With that being said, I thought for a very long time (and still consider it a possibility) that Trump was nothing more than a siphon for the DEMS to stop a true conservative from being seated. Now it seems that the majority of the DEMS and RINO's are out to stop the person who seemed to derail the conservative movement. Trump certainly isn't a conservative and has always leaned more liberal, but the liberals are out to derail him. Was/is the Clinton/Soros/Obama machine that powerful that they still are in control? Time will tell exactly who Trump really is. It's too early in the game and too many unanswered questions for me to give Trump a pass, but so far, I stand with him as he seems to be attempting to move this country forward.
Yep. Well, anything that ticks some people off is worth something.
Yes, evil forces are at work. We need to choose sides.
Choose Trump or else?
I choose 'else'.
Well, I have never seen anything like it and I've been around a while.
After the dems and the press were able to get up from the floor after Hillary lost, they quickly went to work to discredit Trump.
It's a sick thing that a wealthy old evil man can control the country and that wouldn't be possible without the complicity of the press.
So many people here are inclined to eat all the negativity up. They can't think beyond their Trump hate to what is really going on.
Yes, evil forces are at work. We need to choose sides.
I'm gonna support Trump as long as I can. So far, he's done nothing to make me want him out.
All those personal qualities that 'embarrass' some people don't mean a rat's ass if he stays on track.
Funny how certain people continually derided Obama for blaming everything on GWB even after several years and are now demanding unbending fealty to Trump and excusing every mistake he makes with the specter of Clinton.