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Title: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: libertybele on September 21, 2022, 07:57:22 pm
It's out a ways, but by the looks of the project track on the map, hurricane coming up that side of the Gulf are never a good sign for around me. 


A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.

A developing tropical system could spin up into a hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico by the middle of next week, forecasters warned Wednesday.

"This is the most significant threat for the U.S. mainland we've had this hurricane season," AccuWeather chief meteorologist Jonathan Porter said.

The system, known now as Invest 98L, was located near the northeastern coast of South America on Wednesday.

An "Invest" is an area that the National Hurricane Center is watching closely with advanced computer models and other resources, including the Hurricane Hunters, for possible development, according to Weather.com.

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/nK_CUAKi0HMFSogHaQNnhA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTUzOTtjZj13ZWJw/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/MkHyuMgM7qL0hr7MTpqVHw--~B/aD0zNTU7dz02MzI7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/usa_today_news_641/0b6ff1f732469883f0656b5458ad2903)

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hurricane-gulf-mexico-next-week-173738962.html

Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: Bigun on September 21, 2022, 08:03:27 pm
If you live anywhere near the Florida panhandle the time to start making preparations is now.
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: catfish1957 on September 21, 2022, 08:26:38 pm
My take on 98L at this point.

GOM's basically been untapped as a heat sink for the entire summer.  This might get ugly.

Over half the Models have this as a Cat 3 or Cat 4, and this is just at the 168 hr, point. 

As expected @168 hr.  early models have a pretty wide spread from mid Yucatan to about 75 west of Tampa. Except for the 2 models heading toward Yucatan, and 2 through western Cuba  the other 11 or so thread the channel between Yucatan and the Keys.

Being late September, and now seeing some fronts and troughing from the north CONUS, I am leaning toward this being more of an eastern GOM threat.  OTOH, if this follows the more western track, I think almost the entire GOM is into play.

But, as I like to remind my fellow Texans,.....  There has never been a Major hurricane strike to Texas after October 1.  Just a meterorlogical fact that takes in account the troughs and fronts I mentioned earlier.
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on September 21, 2022, 08:46:22 pm
Holy crap!  That storm will bomb out (bombogenesis) over the Gulf of Mexico.  The only thing that could prevent that is wind shear in upper levels of the atmosphere.

Water Temperature Table of the Eastern Gulf of Mexico
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/coastal-water-temperature-guide/egof.html (https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/coastal-water-temperature-guide/egof.html)

Water Temperature Table of the Western Gulf of Mexico
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/coastal-water-temperature-guide/wgof.html (https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/coastal-water-temperature-guide/wgof.html)
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: libertybele on September 21, 2022, 08:54:51 pm
If you live anywhere near the Florida panhandle the time to start making preparations is now.

....hmmm as of right now where they show this hurricane heading is towards the southern portion of FL. It looks like it's going to come up somewhere on the western side of the Gulf (not good for our area).  This is the same path that Charley took and was a Cat 4 (which we stayed through)......

I don't see it hitting the panhandle at all.  Just my opinion.

I'm hoping at this point that it fizzles out and is a tropical storm.

Hurricane Donna back in the '60's took a similar path and she came up the coast and then turned back and pummled areas of southern FL.

P.S. Either way, I'm not dodging this one. I have too many health issues to be riding in a car trying to escape.
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: libertybele on September 21, 2022, 09:21:34 pm
ORLANDO, Fla. – Ten days after the peak of hurricane season, the tropics are very active, with Hurricane Fiona expected to reach Category 4 status on its approach toward Bermuda, a new tropical storm and a tropical wave, now known as Invest 98L, that many models show potentially moving into the Gulf of Mexico.

Fiona dumped copious amounts of rain over the Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico, where a 58-year-old man died after police said he was swept away by a river in the central mountain town of Comerio. Another death was linked to the blackout — a 70-year-old man who was burned to death after he tried to fill his generator with gasoline while it was running, officials said.

Meanwhile, Invest 98L, several hundred miles east of the Windward Islands, has become better organized. Additional development is expected, with a tropical depression likely to form within the next few days as the system moves west to west-northwest at 15 to 20 mph across the eastern and central Caribbean Sea.

The NHC said Invest 98L has a 70% chance of development over the next two days and a 90% chance over the next five days.

Many long-range computer models show the system heading into the Gulf of Mexico, but its projected path and strength are uncertain.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdG3uiwakAEaTtu?format=png&name=small)
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: libertybele on September 21, 2022, 09:24:54 pm
The projected path from the NHC in Miami and the one from AccuWeather are definitely not anywhere close in agreement.

Per the NHC they are supposed to be sending in a reconnaissance aircraft into the system this evening.

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on September 21, 2022, 09:32:43 pm
"spaghetti charts" and "the cone of uncertainty" to follow

... some days I feel like I'm living in a "cone of uncertainty"
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: libertybele on September 21, 2022, 09:41:14 pm
"spaghetti charts" and "the cone of uncertainty" to follow

... some days I feel like I'm living in a "cone of uncertainty"

I hear you. With Joe as president I'm definitely living in a cone of uncertainty.

Interesting that they are sending in aircraft this far ahead of time --- perhaps not a good sign. Tomorrow we'll definitely have a better idea.

Yes, the spaghetti models will be flowing freely soon.
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: catfish1957 on September 21, 2022, 10:28:51 pm
The projected path from the NHC in Miami and the one from AccuWeather are definitely not anywhere close in agreement.

Per the NHC they are supposed to be sending in a reconnaissance aircraft into the system this evening.

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/

Initialization of where the COC (center of circulation) forms is first of utmost criticality.  Right now half of the covection of the wave is over land in South America stretching out maybe 400 miles to the ENE.  That is one of the reasons why there is such a disparity and if wide range in early model runs. Looking at the radar loops it looks like at least right now the center is right at the coast.  The chance of that changing and morphing early on is near 100%.



Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: catfish1957 on September 22, 2022, 04:20:03 am
Here are some early model runs.  Please realize that this still noes not include the initializtion of a solid COC (storm location).

Of those listed, I have found that the HWFI seems to do the best job taking a good consensus estimate of the potential storm.  Again, this is really early on, so, so much could change as the storm progresses. 

Looking at the 24-168 hr. CONUS model runs seems to show troughing and lack of building Highs during the storm run.  That shows me that this again should indicate a more northern run as the storm gains latitude.  That would favor a <90 degree longitude northward turn.  (Eastern GOM)

General consensus also has the storm a little less robust on wind sppeds (good news), with the line share of models running this as a Cat 1.

(http://hurricanes.ral.ucar.edu/realtime/plots/northatlantic/2022/al982022//track_early/aal98_2022092200_track_early.png)
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: catfish1957 on September 22, 2022, 12:37:22 pm
Interesting, the more normal reliable HWFI has become the outlier.  Kind of usual to see this level of consistency in the models this early on.    Overall (again 212-236 hours out) shows a FL strike.  Models are showing a wide range of intensity, from anywhere from a strong tropical storm to a Cat 4 storm.



(https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/storminfo/98L_tracks_latest.png)
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: Wingnut on September 22, 2022, 12:42:23 pm
If it does come up the gulf I see westerly winds pushing it inland to central FL.  But that is just my opinion based on past experience with Sept Canes.
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: libertybele on September 22, 2022, 01:06:08 pm
If it does come up the gulf I see westerly winds pushing it inland to central FL.  But that is just my opinion based on past experience with Sept Canes.

I agree with you.  This looks like the same path Charley took in '04.  The forecasters at the time predicted it striking the Tampa area, it took a turn at the last minute and hit south of Tampa striking as a Cat 4 and then went up into the Punta Gorda and Port Charlotte area.

We saw 3 additional hurricanes after that.  Right now there are a couple of others lined up further out with one having a 60% chance formation.

It looks like FL is going to see some action within this week and the following week.  (sigh)
 
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: libertybele on September 22, 2022, 05:40:56 pm
Neither the National Hurricane Center or local weather stations are giving any definitive information.  They are all saying it's too early to tell.  We in this area have a new doplar 3X that's supposed to be very accurate -- all they are saying again is it's too early to say anything.

Latest spaghetti models.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdQJC_OXEAEJTIJ?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: jmyrlefuller on September 22, 2022, 09:49:10 pm
We in this area have a new doplar 3X that's supposed to be very accurate -- all they are saying again is it's too early to say anything.
That I'm assuming is a radar device. Radar is strictly an observation system; it has no predictive power.

Forecast models (i.e., computers) are what do the prediction. Radar can provide a lot of valuable input to models, but they're limited to line of sight, meaning once you get past about 150 miles into the Gulf of Mexico, they're not going to provide anything meaningful. Same goes for surface observations: there are a few buoys out there, but much more sparse than over land.

The vast majority of observation data that goes into these models comes from satellite observations. It's quite remarkable what they can wring out of a camera image—while our eyes only see three primary colors, the current observation systems can see fifteen, spanning from deep into thermal infrared up to ultraviolet, and there are a lot of things that can be deduced by looking at each wavelength.

But still, most of it is inference, and that means guesswork. It's a lot better than it used to be, that's for sure, but I doubt that it will ever be anything near perfect.
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: libertybele on September 22, 2022, 09:54:20 pm
That I'm assuming is a radar device. Radar is strictly an observation system; it has no predictive power.

Forecast models (i.e., computers) are what do the prediction. Radar can provide a lot of valuable input to models, but they're limited to line of sight, meaning once you get past about 150 miles into the Gulf of Mexico, they're not going to provide anything meaningful. Same goes for surface observations: there are a few buoys out there, but much more sparse than over land.

The vast majority of observation data that goes into these models comes from satellite observations. It's quite remarkable what they can wring out of a camera image—while our eyes only see three primary colors, the current observation systems can see fifteen, spanning from deep into thermal infrared up to ultraviolet, and there are a lot of things that can be deduced by looking at each wavelength.

But still, most of it is inference, and that means guesswork. It's a lot better than it used to be, that's for sure, but I doubt that it will ever be anything near perfect.

Yes it is a radar device and I also spelled doppler incorrectly.  Thanks for the info @jmyrlefuller
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: catfish1957 on September 22, 2022, 10:27:36 pm
Yes it is a radar device and I also spelled doppler incorrectly.  Thanks for the info @jmyrlefuller

Haven't pulled up the latest model runs, but that system better move a little further north if it wants to develop. Half of its convection is still residing inland on Venezuelan  coastal land.
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: libertybele on September 23, 2022, 12:02:52 am
Haven't pulled up the latest model runs, but that system better move a little further north if it wants to develop. Half of its convection is still residing inland on Venezuelan  coastal land.

I would be just fine if the system doesn't develop.  I definitely don't want to dodge a hurricane right now and some of the spaghetti models have it heading our way and some of the forecasters are predicting a Cat 4.

Local weather is saying once it moves past Jamaica they will be able to forecast a cone and we will know by Saturday with good certainty if it's headed our way.
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: libertybele on September 23, 2022, 12:05:37 am
It's wobbled a little bit to the north.

Showers and thunderstorms remain disorganized in association with a
low pressure system located over the southeastern Caribbean Sea
about 150 miles east-northeast of Curacao.  The upper-level wind
environment over the low is expected to become more conducive for
development, and a tropical depression is expected to form during
the next day or two while moving west-northwestward at 10 to 15 mph
across the central Caribbean Sea.  Locally heavy rainfall and gusty
winds are likely to affect northwestern Venezuela, the ABC island
chain, and northeastern Colombia through Friday.  Interests in
Jamaica and the Cayman Islands should closely monitor the progress
of this system.


(https://kubrick.htvapps.com/htv-prod-media.s3.amazonaws.com/images/invest-98-l-1663875997.jfif?resize=660:*)
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: Wingnut on September 23, 2022, 12:08:14 am
Yawn.   Too early to GAF. 
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: Idiot on September 23, 2022, 12:10:01 am
It's out a ways, but by the looks of the project track on the map, hurricane coming up that side of the Gulf are never a good sign for around me. 


A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.

A developing tropical system could spin up into a hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico by the middle of next week, forecasters warned Wednesday.

"This is the most significant threat for the U.S. mainland we've had this hurricane season," AccuWeather chief meteorologist Jonathan Porter said.

The system, known now as Invest 98L, was located near the northeastern coast of South America on Wednesday.

An "Invest" is an area that the National Hurricane Center is watching closely with advanced computer models and other resources, including the Hurricane Hunters, for possible development, according to Weather.com.

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/nK_CUAKi0HMFSogHaQNnhA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTUzOTtjZj13ZWJw/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/MkHyuMgM7qL0hr7MTpqVHw--~B/aD0zNTU7dz02MzI7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/https://media.zenfs.com/en/usa_today_news_641/0b6ff1f732469883f0656b5458ad2903)

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hurricane-gulf-mexico-next-week-173738962.html
Come on baby...right towards West Texas and plan on staying a while.
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: libertybele on September 23, 2022, 12:22:03 am
Come on baby...right towards West Texas and plan on staying a while.

I haven't heard any of the forecasters saying that it could hit TX.  More likely FL they just don't know where on the FL Gulfcoast it will make landfall.
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: libertybele on September 23, 2022, 12:24:28 am
Yawn.   Too early to GAF.

We only have one way north out of here, so if it is headed our way, we will have to evacuate early, especially with all the people that are in the area now. 

I don't think the panhandle has to worry at all.

Yes.  This one has me worried -- hurricane Charley all over again.
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: catfish1957 on September 23, 2022, 05:12:01 am
Seeing some pretty decent tightening of model data for this early.  Good clustering around western Cuban, and then a NNW/N toward the wester FL Coast or Eastern FL panhandle.

Models also have to some certain clustering agreement of Cat 3 strength at the 96-120 hour point from now.

In just the last few hours there has a big flare up precipitation with a definite spin.  I am guessing this thing is about to get its act together.  If this trend continues, I expct a depression to form tomorrow.



(http://hurricanes.ral.ucar.edu/realtime/plots/northatlantic/2022/al982022//track_early/aal98_2022092300_track_early.png)

(https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/storminfo/98L_tracks_latest.png)

(https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/storminfo/98L_intensity_latest.png)
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: catfish1957 on September 23, 2022, 04:59:30 pm
As I expected our Invest is now T.D.9, and is expected to intensify pretty quickly.  Models are very clustered this early, and the NHC at least at this point has the cone pretty narrow.  NHC graphic of the storm below.  Actual track has strom hitting western Cuba Monday evening as a Cat 2.  U.S. landfall is obviously contingent on how far north the storm hits as a minimum Cat 3.. If it hits in the neighborhood of Tampa or Miami, present estimates are Wednesday, if the storm more veer westward towards the panhandle, I'd guess Thursday.  NHC right now is showing a south of Tampa landfall, but, EVERYONE from the Florida panhandle to eastern FL should prepare.

In fact, all those  east of the Mississippi river to FLshould keep an eye on it too.

(https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT09/refresh/AL092022_5day_cone_with_line_and_wind+png/145524_5day_cone_with_line_and_wind.png)
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: cato potatoe on September 23, 2022, 05:27:47 pm
The path over central Cuba and into the far northwestern Bahamas is still on the table, and definitely a best case scenario.  Second best is the western tip of Cuba followed by landfall in the sparsely populated Big Bend, after ingesting a bunch of dry air.
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: libertybele on September 23, 2022, 05:36:07 pm
Well it's coming right at us.  I guess we're riding it out.

Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on September 23, 2022, 05:36:15 pm
 twilight zonexxxx

What would happen if a nuke was dropped in to the eye of a hurricane and detonated?  Would it weaken the cyclonic forces at the center of the hurricane?
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: catfish1957 on September 23, 2022, 05:44:40 pm
The path over central Cuba and into the far northwestern Bahamas is still on the table, and definitely a best case scenario.  Second best is the western tip of Cuba followed by landfall in the sparsely populated Big Bend, after ingesting a bunch of dry air.

There is a sect of dry air moving into the eastern GOM via trough,but I wouldn't count on it in a week.  Plus surface water temperatures in that area are in the upper 80's.

(https://cdn.star.nesdis.noaa.gov//GOES16/ABI/SECTOR/GM/08/GOES16-GM-08-1000x1000.gif)
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: Bigun on September 23, 2022, 06:37:49 pm
Well it's coming right at us.  I guess we're riding it out.

Don't mess with this one @libertybele If you can get out do it!
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: cato potatoe on September 23, 2022, 07:12:23 pm
What would happen if a nuke was dropped in to the eye of a hurricane and detonated?  Would it weaken the cyclonic forces at the center of the hurricane?

If the storm is near shore, it may disperse fallout over a wide swath of land.  The circulation would not be disrupted appreciably.
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: cato potatoe on September 23, 2022, 07:19:23 pm
There is a sect of dry air moving into the eastern GOM via trough,but I wouldn't count on it in a week.  Plus surface water temperatures in that area are in the upper 80's.

I'm living about half a mile from Tampa Bay.  This week should be entertaining.
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: Gefn on September 23, 2022, 07:38:19 pm
Is there any word if it might go up the coast as well?
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: cato potatoe on September 23, 2022, 07:54:08 pm
Is there any word if it might go up the coast as well?

I think most of the US track depends upon how far west it gets this weekend.  The system is so heavily "tilted" northeast to southwest, it is hard to know where things will come together once the shear dies off.  And, a weaker storm this weekend would allow it to drift farther towards mexico before being picked up by the trough.
Title: Re: Tropical Depression 9 (September 2022) Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 24, 2022, 03:38:21 am
System is now named, Ian. 

Here is the 10:00 p.m. track.  Entire state of FL east of Appalacicola is in the cone of uncertainty.

Pretty safe bet storm is going to be at least a hurricane.  Satellite loops indicate a quickly developing storm.  All FL briefers, should be preparing.  All Briefers east of NOLA to Appalacicola should be keeping an eye on the storm in case upper level steering conditions changes.

(https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT09/refresh/AL092022_5day_cone_with_line_and_wind+png/024746_5day_cone_with_line_and_wind.png)
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: catfish1957 on September 24, 2022, 03:43:02 am
I think most of the US track depends upon how far west it gets this weekend.  The system is so heavily "tilted" northeast to southwest, it is hard to know where things will come together once the shear dies off.  And, a weaker storm this weekend would allow it to drift farther towards mexico before being picked up by the trough.

Good point, but it seems that the shear you see, at least in water vapor loops might subside as storm approaches Jamaica.  The temperature profiles as it nears the Western Carribean, are bathwater hot from there to the FL coast. 
Title: Re: Tropical Depression 9 (September 2022) Thread
Post by: jmyrlefuller on September 24, 2022, 03:25:05 pm
System is now named, Ian. 
Thread title updated accordingly.
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 24, 2022, 03:37:22 pm
10 a.m. update is an excellent example reason why everyone even nearby cone of uncertainty should monitor storm progression.  In just 8 hours, track and cone has shifted North and West by about 60 miles.  Am a big fan of hurricane model trending, and wouldn't be  a bit surprised if Mobile and NOLA is not in the cone in the not distant future.

In any case, a Cat 3 hit is likely somewhere in the eastern side of GOM.

(https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT09/refresh/AL092022_5day_cone_with_line_and_wind+png/145630_5day_cone_with_line_and_wind.png)

Title: Re: Tropical Storm Ian Thread
Post by: Wingnut on September 24, 2022, 11:58:11 pm
Since Covid I really don't GAF about any of this shit.  I ain't going anywhere.  Hurricane warnings are just another way they try to control us.
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 25, 2022, 01:47:58 pm
 Published 1 hour ago
Tropical Storm Ian forecast to rapidly intensify into hurricane today, significant threat eyes Florida

A Hurricane Warning has been issued for parts of the Cayman Islands. Ian is expected to become a hurricane on Sunday before impacting Florida later in the week.

By Brian Donegan , Andrew Wulfeck , Steven Yablonski Source FOX Weather

Tropical Storm Ian is gaining strength in the Caribbean Sea, and much of the Florida Peninsula and Panhandle are included in the forecast cone for what could become a major hurricane in the coming days.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis urged Floridians to take precautions and declared a state of emergency on Saturday for all 67 counties ahead of the impacts of Tropical Storm Ian, which is expected to undergo a period of rapid intensification throughout the day.

Rapid intensification occurs when a tropical cyclone's (tropical depressions, tropical storms and hurricanes) maximum sustained winds increase by at least 35 mph in a 24-hour period, according to the National Hurricane Center.

Here's everything the FOX Forecast Center knows about this significant threat to the southeastern U.S. next week.

(https://media.foxweather.com/weather/AL09_Forecast_Cone.png)

more
https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/tracking-ian-florida-tropics
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 25, 2022, 02:55:50 pm
Last couple hours of radar loops sure look like Ian is forming a pretty rapid COC, maybe even an eye. This tells me, I wouldn't be surprised to see Ian each Hurricane status late today, and the latest tomorrow.  With this rapidly forming COC, convection still looks interestingly light, with  the SE quandrant almost precipitation free. 

One interesting point to add, is that this is the first advisory within the  last 5 that did not shift the path north and westward. Really interested in seeing the 11AM to see if this a breather, or whether the north central GOM may still be in play.  Anyone living IMO say East of Pecan Island should be watching.

How quickly this W to WNW-NW-NNW turn happens is critical. Once that turn happens, the NHC will probably have a good grasp of how the storm responds to the trough entrenching in the SE CONUS.  Once that is established, I expect the Cone to significantly narrow.

Which right now is Mobile, AL to Tampa Bay.

Title: Re: Tropical Storm Ian Thread
Post by: Elderberry on September 25, 2022, 03:12:45 pm
(https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT09/refresh/AL092022_key_messages+png/145928_key_messages_sm.png)
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 25, 2022, 03:26:21 pm
No really signicant shifts in track and intensity at the 11am advisory. 

Models, OTOH, have tightened and are clustering up nicely.  With this agreement, at least at this exact moment, the NHC is fairly clear at least where it is going to go.  On the second graphic NHC is also seeing some consitency that they expect it to be either a Cat 3 or.

(https://web.uwm.edu/hurricane-models/models/al092022.png)

(https://web.uwm.edu/hurricane-models/models/al092022_inten.png)
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 25, 2022, 04:01:59 pm
 Biden approves emergency declaration for Florida as Ian approaches
by Julia Mueller - 09/25/22 7:31 AM ET

President Biden on Saturday issued an emergency declaration for the state of Florida as Tropical Storm Ian intensifies in the Caribbean. 

Biden’s move directs federal assistance to supplement Florida’s storm response, authorizing the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the Department of Homeland Security to help coordinate emergency relief efforts, according to the White House.

The president’s planned trip to Florida Tuesday was also canceled due to the storm.

As Florida braces for the storm’s forecasted arrival, Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) on Saturday extended an emergency declaration initially set for a handful of Florida counties to apply statewide. 

DeSantis has urged Floridians to monitor the storm and take precautions as it approaches.

Tropical Storm Ian comes just a week after Hurricane Fiona hit Puerto Rico, bringing dangerous wind and flash flooding conditions and at one point cutting power to the entire U.S. territory.

more
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/3660053-biden-approves-emergency-declaration-for-florida-as-ian-approaches/
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Ian Thread
Post by: Elderberry on September 25, 2022, 04:27:08 pm
NASA calls off Artemis 1 moon rocket launch on Sept. 27 due to Tropical Storm Ian

https://www.space.com/artemis-1-moon-launch-delay-tropical-storm-ian (https://www.space.com/artemis-1-moon-launch-delay-tropical-storm-ian)

NASA may roll the 32-story Artemis 1 rocket into a hangar due to the storm, which should reach hurricane strength next week.

NASA won't try to thread the weather needle with its Artemis 1 moon mission after all.

NASA certainly doesn't want the multibillion-dollar Artemis 1 stack — a Space Launch System (SLS) megarocket topped with an Orion space capsule — out on the pad in hurricane-force winds, so it's getting the wheels turning on a possible rollback to the protection of KSC's Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB). And that prep work takes a Sept. 27 launch off the table.
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Ian Thread
Post by: Wingnut on September 25, 2022, 06:01:56 pm
Biden approves emergency declaration for Florida as Ian approaches
by Julia Mueller - 09/25/22 7:31 AM ET
The president’s planned trip to Florida Tuesday was also canceled due to the storm.


Well there is the silver lining. 
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 25, 2022, 06:21:06 pm
Well there is the silver lining.

It takes a hurricane to keep him away....
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Ian Thread
Post by: Fishrrman on September 25, 2022, 08:26:13 pm
Can be viewed here:
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=275.28,10.94,937/loc=-80.746,15.602

Doesn't really look like much at the moment...
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Ian Thread
Post by: cato potatoe on September 26, 2022, 12:27:45 am
There has been a burst near the center this evening.  We'll see if it means anything.  The pressure fell quite a bit, but the convection has been of the popcorn variety. 
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 26, 2022, 12:41:20 am
There has been a burst near the center this evening.  We'll see if it means anything.  The pressure fell quite a bit, but the convection has been of the popcorn variety.

What does that mean?
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Ian Thread
Post by: Wingnut on September 26, 2022, 01:05:54 am
What does that mean?
:2popcorn:
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 26, 2022, 01:41:35 am
September 25, 2022 8:26pm EDT
Florida Keys under tropical storm watch as Ian gains strength in the Caribbean
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis declared a state of emergency on Saturday
By Paul Best | Fox News

    The National Hurricane Center issued a tropical storm watch for the lower Florida Keys on Sunday evening as Tropical Storm Ian continues gaining steam in the Caribbean.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis declared a state of emergency for the entire state on Saturday and urged residents to prepare for the storm.

Tropical Storm Ian, which currently has maximum sustained winds of 45 mph, is expected to go through rapid intensification then become a major hurricane on Tuesday.

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It's projected to pass over or near the Cayman Islands and western Cuba on Monday, then enter the Gulf of Mexico on Tuesday.

"You see while it doesn’t have an eye, you can see a very impressive twist, rotation in the clouds so that implies a lot of structure there," Jamie Rhone, the Acting Director the National Hurricane Center, told FOX Weather.

"So when it moves into a more conducive environment, especially the northwest Caribbean where the oceans are very warm, it could rapidly intensify and all our guidance is showing that’s a high probability."

Southern and central Florida are expected to see heavy rainfall on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday, while the Florida Keys could see flash and urban flooding through the middle of the week, according to the National Hurricane Center.

more
https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-keys-tropical-storm-watch-ian-gains-strength-caribbean
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Ian Thread
Post by: Wingnut on September 26, 2022, 02:10:47 am
Yawn. 
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Ian Thread
Post by: cato potatoe on September 26, 2022, 02:18:49 am
What does that mean?

Usually it means the system is fighting dry air ... and I think that was the case earlier today.  However, the storm appears to be transitioning into the rapid intensification phase.  So I've booked a hotel room several counties to the southeast, and will be exiting stage right tomorrow or early Tuesday.  Tampa Bay has not seen a bad storm in 100 years ... I don't want to be anywhere near this place if/when that happens.
Title: Re: Tropical Storm Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 26, 2022, 01:29:34 pm
@jmyrlefuller

Ian has now reached Hurricane Status.  Based on Monday, 8 a.m. advisory, winds are now sustained at 75 mph.

Models remains strongly clustered, and are in good agreement in path and strength.  Cone now covers an area from about Panama City to St. Petersburg.  Storm according to is going to dangerously pass clase to Tampa Bay with 130 mph wind.

This somewhat eastward shift in the models, IMO was based on a little earlier than expected W-WNW-NW-NNW-N turn.  Actual landfall shows Cedar Key, FL. as bullseye.  But again...focus on the cone, and not the direct projected path.

But I also have to mention what could be a worst case scenario.......  If this continues to strengthen in Cat 3/4 as expected, I fear it might decide to remain just right off the coast, hug the coast on trek, and cause widespread devestation for a few hundred  miles.

Sat imagery of the past 4-6 hours is remarkable.  Yesterday, at this time, there wasn't  even full convection around the COC.  Now?  Massive amount moisture and deep convection has engulfed the storm. Especially north and northeast sections.  This is a rapidly strenghtening storm.  Looking at the atmospheric loops, it looks like no shear, and with near 90 degree GOM bathwater?  There are no reasons to think this storm could weaken.

There is a narrow tongue of fairly dry air sitting at 25 North, but it seems like it is subsiding. 

And one final point, loops have just shown a wobble of the COC westward.  If these continue, it's better news for Tampa, and less better news for the panhandle.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 26, 2022, 03:37:16 pm
Praying for all our Briefers in harms way...please take care and keep in touch if you can...
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 26, 2022, 03:56:47 pm
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Catturd ™
@catturd2
·7m

If you have an electric car in Florida - you might want to evacuate now so you can make it to South Georgia by Friday.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Kamaji on September 26, 2022, 04:00:07 pm
Any chance this thing could cut across Florida and then re-enter the mid-Atlantic?
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: DCPatriot on September 26, 2022, 04:12:21 pm
Any chance this thing could cut across Florida and then re-enter the mid-Atlantic?

My bet it's going straight due North and will immediately become a 'Tropical Storm'. 

The Florida Gulf Coast gets a storm surge and wind damage of course, but perhaps I've been 'dulled' by 24/7 cries of crisis, tragedy and death.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 26, 2022, 04:25:07 pm
Florida Activates 2,500 Guardsmen as Hurricane Ian Approaches: ‘Anticipate Fuel Disruptions,’ Power Outages

Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) has declared a state of emergency for all Florida counties, and the state has activated 2,500 guardsmen in anticipation of Hurricane Ian’s landfall, as the governor warned Floridians to anticipate power outages and fuel disruptions.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/09/26/florida-activates-2500-guardsmen-hurricane-ian-approaches-anticipate-fuel-disruptions-power-outages/
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 26, 2022, 04:44:19 pm
My bet it's going straight due North and will immediately become a 'Tropical Storm'. 

The Florida Gulf Coast gets a storm surge and wind damage of course, but perhaps I've been 'dulled' by 24/7 cries of crisis, tragedy and death.

17 of the 19 models presently crunching numbers for the storm have Ian transversing GA, and then lingering through the western Carolinas and VA.

Looking at the 12 hr. increment dots out 168 hours, they sure look close together, so sadly that probably means we might have a lingering T.S that is going to inunndate those areas.  This is early on obviously, and it could change, but right now this might be a historic eastern seaboard flood event.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: DCPatriot on September 26, 2022, 04:51:26 pm
17 of the 19 models presently crunching numbers for the storm have Ian transversing GA, and then lingering through the western Carolinas and VA.

Looking at the 12 hr. increment dots out 168 hours, they sure look close together, so sadly that probably means we might have a lingering T.S that is going to inunndate those areas.  This is early on obviously, and it could change, but right now this might be a historic eastern seaboard flood event.

(https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/09/1862/1046/AL09_Forecast_Cone.png?ve=1&tl=1)

Will be interesting to see if the 'Eye' get caught by the western tip of Cuba and remains intact or breaks up.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Wingnut on September 26, 2022, 04:52:03 pm
Praying for all our Briefers in harms way...please take care and keep in touch if you can...

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I'm ready for Ian.  No worries,
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 26, 2022, 04:59:18 pm
(https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/09/1862/1046/AL09_Forecast_Cone.png?ve=1&tl=1)

Will be interesting to see if the 'Eye' get caught by the western tip of Cuba and remains intact or breaks up.

Elevation of that part of Cuba is pretty low.  Could see some lapses in strenghtening, but I doubt you'll see too much impact.   OTOH, if the path moves say about 100 miles eastward from forecast, then we might see some sheering off, but again not enough to kill a storm that now has a convection shield of  about 350 miles in diameter.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 26, 2022, 05:05:36 pm
 September 26, 2022 11:21am EDT
Hurricane Ian forms into powerful storm, prompting evacuation order in Tampa
Residents in Tampa have received a mandatory evacuation order as Hurricane Ian approaches

By Andrea Vacchiano , Anders Hagstrom | Fox News

Tropical Storm Ian strengthened into Hurricane Ian Monday morning, as coastal residents brace for major impacts from the storm as the week progresses.

Hurricane status was declared at around 5:00 a.m. as the storm's winds strengthened to 75 miles per hour, according to the National Hurricane Center.

Hurricane Ian is expected to become a significant hurricane within the next 48 hours. A Hurricane Watch was issued for Florida's Gulf Coast, including Tampa Bay.

Hillsborough County, which contains Tampa, ordered a mandatory evacuation for residents living in the city's coastal area. It also announced a voluntary evacuation for most of the rest of the county.

more
https://www.foxnews.com/weather/hurricane-ian-forms-powerful-storm-prompting-evacuation-order-tampa
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: DCPatriot on September 26, 2022, 05:06:32 pm
Elevation of that part of Cuba is pretty low.  Could see some lapses in strenghtening, but I doubt you'll see too much impact.   OTOH, if the path moves say about 100 miles eastward from forecast, then we might see some sheering off, but again not enough to kill a storm that now has a convection shield of  about 350 miles in diameter.

 :patriot:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 26, 2022, 05:37:45 pm
Think I see an  eye now forming now.....  This is a rapidly growing storm, by nature of its growth, and massive building up of convection on all 4 quadrants now.  Am also interesting to see how pervasive the SW to NE flow (95W trough) in most of the rest of the GOM is going to impact Ian's steering.  This is one of the more fascinating aspects of Hurricane watching.  Which wins, mid and upper wins aloft, or their sheer power and circulation of a massive cane. 

Gilbert back in '88 was a sterling example, and it scared the hell out of us Texans.  In September there were some serious troughs and fronts that forecasters were convinced that Gilbert would veer more north or northwest from its perpetual WNW track.

This 900mb monster never did, and when you look at the track it almost looks like a straight line from when it became Hurricane to Landfall.



Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 26, 2022, 06:22:22 pm
My sister has a house on Sanibel Island...she's probably a nervous wreck...
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 26, 2022, 09:24:57 pm
Holy Smokes, the 5pm advisory is out, and it almost looks like a worst case scenario for Tampa Bay.  Let's hope this does not unfold as forecast describes.

(1) Ian has rapidly strengthened with winds now 100 mph sustained, and about 80 miles SW of the tip of Western Cuba.

(2) For the next two days, Ian according to forecast turns NNW, N, then slightly NNE, and slows.  Growing rapidly. 

(3) By Wednesday, Ian has potentially grown into a monster,  A Cat 4, with 135 mph sustiained winds, basically right at Tampa Bay.

(4) Then the storm appears to go inland or skim inland for about 50 miles, but losing strength interacting with land.

(5) This storm is poised down to slow down to a crawl (5 mph or less).  So not only will there be significant winds, they may be winds of long duration.

Based on the water sat. imagery, a well defined eye has now formed,and this thing is grwoing rapidly.  In fact some of the outer feeder bands have already reached the SW FL coast. Also very concerning is we are now starting to see areas of subsidence peripheral to the storm (dry infusion a few hundred miles away because the storm has sucked up moisture from surrounding areas)  This is another sign of a large and potent hurricane.

Our thoughts and prayers are with those dealing with this in Western Florida.

I know forecasts can change, but right now I can imagine that emergency managers in TB are calling for preperations to be rushed to completion including evacuation.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Gefn on September 26, 2022, 09:48:23 pm
10 min ago
Hurricane Ian strengthens to Category 2 and is expected to slam Cuba Tuesday morning


https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/hurricane-ian-update-today-09-26-22#h_001e127d943e5e8f89bff869c21f08bd
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Gefn on September 26, 2022, 09:49:03 pm
10 min ago
Hurricane Ian strengthens to Category 2 and is expected to slam Cuba Tuesday morning


https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/hurricane-ian-update-today-09-26-22#h_001e127d943e5e8f89bff869c21f08bd

Up to date live updates at link
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 27, 2022, 12:23:51 am
Ron DeSantis: 25,000 Linemen Ready for Power Outages in Florida

Thousands of linemen are ready to restore power in Florida as Hurricane Ian approaches the state’s west coast, Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) announced on Monday.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/09/26/ron-desantis-25000-linemen-ready-power-outages-florida/
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 27, 2022, 03:16:15 am
On 10 pm advisory....Another slight jaunt eastward of track.  No real major changes in intensity though.

Still, what is most breathtakingly scary is, based on NHC track and forecast, Tampa Bay may see 24-36 hours straight of Cat 3-4 winds.

i just can't fathom that, and I have been through the likes of Rita, Ike, and at least 10 others.

Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Gefn on September 27, 2022, 07:16:23 am
Low-lying and flood-prone, Tampa Bay area braces for first major storm in a century



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Mark Luther, a marine sciences professor who lives in a St. Petersburg, Fla., neighborhood that juts into Tampa Bay, summed up his feelings about Hurricane Ian on Monday in two words:

“I’m stressed.”

Luther, an expert in the physics of oceanography at the University of South Florida who manages the region’s tide gauges, understands better than most people just how vulnerable this densely populated area is to the combination of storm and surge — and how lucky it has been to dodge a direct hit from a major hurricane for the past century.



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/low-lying-and-flood-prone-tampa-bay-area-braces-for-first-major-storm-in-a-century/ar-AA12h6Dy
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Gefn on September 27, 2022, 08:56:24 am

Hurricane Ian makes landfall in western Cuba as a Category 3 storm, threatening a path of destruction as it churns toward Florida


https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/27/weather/hurricane-ian-cuba-florida-tuesday/index.html
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 27, 2022, 12:53:13 pm
125 mph at 4am advisory, and bearing down on Western Cuba.  Winds according to forecast are to peak at 135 mph tomorrow, and then start deminishing tomrrow, but gradual enough, that when FL sees it, it will still be a strong Cat 2 or weak Cat 3. 

This slightly better news is the fact now that there is a pretty strong cold front diving southward into the gulf late Wednesday.  That interaction will help the storm have to share convection and energy with low in the front. One other bit of good news, is that Ian has lost its beautiful classical symetrical form, and the storm is significantly more convection laden on the east side.  Looks like a fairly dry wedge of air is getting pulled into Ian at about 86W.  This is good news too, and should help further development.

Still though, a lot can change in the next 72-96 hours, and everyone north of 26N in Florida should rush to complete preparing, and evacuation if in cone and directed, and keep an eye on this if they aren't.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 27, 2022, 01:17:45 pm
Maybe some prayers were answered?

Latest track and trend for Ian at 8 am has shifted northward about 30 or 40 miles.  TB is definitely still not out of the woods, and is still in the cone, but the overall track is now again about 40 miles north of the bay itself.  Why?  As intense as this storm is, it's hurricane force wind sphere is relatively small for monsters like this.  Right now, that wind field (75 mph) is about 30 miles from center.

Has Tampa Bay dodged a bullet?  We don't know realliy yet, but their prospects are a hell of a lot better than they were 8 hours ago, based on NHC progs.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mountaineer on September 27, 2022, 02:12:29 pm
City of Tampa
@CityofTampa
⚠️ EVACUATION ZONES ⚠️
Save this printable evacuation zones map for a quick reference.
To look up your address and find your evacuation zone/route, visit @Hillboroughfl's website at: https://bit.ly/3cb85AX
Please note: the website is experiencing high traffic. Please be patient.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fdl6XysXwAMF518?format=jpg&name=900x900)
11:47 AM · Sep 26, 2022


Christina Pushaw 🐊 🇺🇸
@ChristinaPushaw
#TAMPA EVACUATION ZONES 🌀#HurricaneIan
‼️ If you cannot read the markings on the picture of the map and aren’t sure if you’re in an Evacuation Zone, visit Hillsborough County’s site at http://bit.ly/3cb85AX or http://FloridaDisaster.org/Know (which has zones for the entire state).
8:38 AM · Sep 27, 2022

Christina Pushaw 🐊 🇺🇸
@ChristinaPushaw
#HILLSBOROUGH #TAMPA Zones A & B are under evacuation notices for #HurricaneIan.
‼️Residents of mobile & manufactured homes in all zones should evacuate.
Shelter info for Hillsborough County: http://HCFLGov.net/StaySafe
For all counties follow @FLSERT
 & your local emergency Dept.
8:45 AM · Sep 27, 2022

Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mountaineer on September 27, 2022, 03:47:01 pm
Who knew AOC was on top of this back in 2019?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdmLC8SXEAI8olU?format=png&name=small)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: roamer_1 on September 27, 2022, 04:03:09 pm
Thinking about you @libertybele ... Hope you're out of the way of it.

Probably not though... I have visions of boarding things up and being too busy to post...
 :0001: :seeya:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 27, 2022, 04:14:27 pm
Who knew AOC was on top of this back in 2019?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdmLC8SXEAI8olU?format=png&name=small)
I believe she is that stupid, but 2K 'likes' ?
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Polly Ticks on September 27, 2022, 04:57:14 pm
I believe she is that stupid, but 2K 'likes' ?

It's fake, but accurate.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on September 27, 2022, 05:08:50 pm
If power is out for a week, how will first responders and civilians recharge their vehicles?

(https://i.imgflip.com/6uvwmx.jpg)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 27, 2022, 05:25:12 pm
Hurricane IAN, LIVE, HITS KEY WEST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIrhyAa2xTE
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 27, 2022, 05:36:16 pm
Charlie Spiering
@charliespiering
·
1m
Joe Biden says he called mayors of St. Petersburg, Tampa, and Clearwater:

"I told each one of them, whatever they need contact me directly."
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 27, 2022, 05:42:36 pm
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1574807514532945920
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: libertybele on September 27, 2022, 06:55:42 pm
Thinking about you @libertybele ... Hope you're out of the way of it.

Probably not though... I have visions of boarding things up and being too busy to post...
 :0001: :seeya:

Hey @roamer_1  - just checking in.  We had reservations twice out of here then cancelled as they predicted north FL first, then Tampa, now they are predicting a Cat 4 to be right on top of us with a high storm surge.  So praying.  Our neighbor next to us (I finally met him) is staying and our neighbors next to them are also staying. They had mandatory evacuations but we were not included in that evacuation but we are still vulnerable.  Lots of FL is vulnerable.

We have all the windows shuttered with hurricane code compliant shutters, garage is hurricane compliant and stained glass front door is supposed to be hurricane resistant so, we'll soon find out.  Home is 5 years old and hopefully was built to current hurricane codes.

So.... bracing for impact and praying.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: libertybele on September 27, 2022, 07:00:02 pm
I believe she is that stupid, but 2K 'likes' ?

Electric cars??? Good luck trying to get out of FL with traffic backed up with parking lot like conditions.  People have died on the Eway trying to leave the state in the past because they ran out of gas. 

DeSantis though has addressed the state of FL several times and first responders, and the national guard are already gearing up.  I believe the governor will handle things well.  It doesn't sound like he's relying on FEMA, which is a good thing.

Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: libertybele on September 27, 2022, 07:01:57 pm
Maybe some prayers were answered?

Latest track and trend for Ian at 8 am has shifted northward about 30 or 40 miles.  TB is definitely still not out of the woods, and is still in the cone, but the overall track is now again about 40 miles north of the bay itself.  Why?  As intense as this storm is, it's hurricane force wind sphere is relatively small for monsters like this.  Right now, that wind field (75 mph) is about 30 miles from center.

Has Tampa Bay dodged a bullet?  We don't know realliy yet, but their prospects are a hell of a lot better than they were 8 hours ago, based on NHC progs.

Yes, TB has dodged a bullet -- they will see minimal storm surge and maybe a Cat 1

I am much further south and I am bracing for impact @catfish1957
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 27, 2022, 07:06:39 pm
Hey @roamer_1  - just checking in.  We had reservations twice out of here then cancelled as they predicted north FL first, then Tampa, now they are predicting a Cat 4 to be right on top of us with a high storm surge.  So praying.  Our neighbor next to us (I finally met him) is staying and our neighbors next to them are also staying. They had mandatory evacuations but we were not included in that evacuation but we are still vulnerable.  Lots of FL is vulnerable.

We have all the windows shuttered with hurricane code compliant shutters, garage is hurricane compliant and stained glass front door is supposed to be hurricane resistant so, we'll soon find out.  Home is 5 years old and hopefully was built to current hurricane codes.

So.... bracing for impact and praying.

We will all be praying for you...do you have a generator?
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: roamer_1 on September 27, 2022, 07:06:57 pm
Hey @roamer_1  - just checking in.  We had reservations twice out of here then cancelled as they predicted north FL first, then Tampa, now they are predicting a Cat 4 to be right on top of us with a high storm surge.  So praying.  Our neighbor next to us (I finally met him) is staying and our neighbors next to them are also staying. They had mandatory evacuations but we were not included in that evacuation but we are still vulnerable.  Lots of FL is vulnerable.

We have all the windows shuttered with hurricane code compliant shutters, garage is hurricane compliant and stained glass front door is supposed to be hurricane resistant so, we'll soon find out.  Home is 5 years old and hopefully was built to current hurricane codes.

So.... bracing for impact and praying.

Praying too, @libertybele ... And we're all pulling for ya, no doubt...
I know you probably won't keep power and cell, and have plenty of other things to think about... But when it's done, and when you get the chance, check in... so some of us can un-pucker.
 happy77 :beer:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: berdie on September 27, 2022, 07:27:20 pm
Yes, TB has dodged a bullet -- they will see minimal storm surge and maybe a Cat 1

I am much further south and I am bracing for impact @catfish1957



Stay safe. Prayers up for you and all in the path.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: libertybele on September 27, 2022, 07:32:05 pm
We will all be praying for you...do you have a generator?

Yes, we have a generator that I believe will run the air and the refrigerator -- we have a gas caddy filled with gas.

Believe me, I so so much appreciate the prayers.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: libertybele on September 27, 2022, 07:35:09 pm
Praying too, @libertybele ... And we're all pulling for ya, no doubt...
I know you probably won't keep power and cell, and have plenty of other things to think about... But when it's done, and when you get the chance, check in... so some of us can un-pucker.
 happy77 :beer:

I will touch base when I can -- we are supposed to see the worst tomorrow around noon until middle of Thursday.  We have a solar charged radio and cell phone charger.  The last hurricane took out a couple of cell towers, so who knows.

Thank you for prayers.  happy77 :beer:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: libertybele on September 27, 2022, 07:35:43 pm


Stay safe. Prayers up for you and all in the path.

Thank you so much.  happy77
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 27, 2022, 07:45:32 pm
Thank you so much.  happy77

I'm praying for ya too, @libertybele!  I've been off here a bit, and I did not know you are still in the area of Naples.  Your rig sounds good! 

I PM'ed you my cell number.....
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Gefn on September 27, 2022, 07:47:51 pm
Hurricane IAN, LIVE, HITS KEY WEST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIrhyAa2xTE


Thank you!
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Gefn on September 27, 2022, 07:48:47 pm
Prayers @libertybele

You have my number if you need it
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Bigun on September 27, 2022, 07:58:36 pm
Hey @roamer_1  - just checking in.  We had reservations twice out of here then cancelled as they predicted north FL first, then Tampa, now they are predicting a Cat 4 to be right on top of us with a high storm surge.  So praying.  Our neighbor next to us (I finally met him) is staying and our neighbors next to them are also staying. They had mandatory evacuations but we were not included in that evacuation but we are still vulnerable.  Lots of FL is vulnerable.

We have all the windows shuttered with hurricane code compliant shutters, garage is hurricane compliant and stained glass front door is supposed to be hurricane resistant so, we'll soon find out.  Home is 5 years old and hopefully was built to current hurricane codes.

So.... bracing for impact and praying.

Thanks for the update @libertybele Praying for all in harms way.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 27, 2022, 08:47:49 pm
 Biden calls Florida mayors — but not DeSantis — as Hurricane Ian nears shore
By Steven Nelson   
September 27, 2022 2:09pm

President Biden called three Florida mayors Tuesday as Hurricane Ian nears Florida’s western coast — but didn’t call Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, with whom he has clashed on issues such as COVID-19 policies and migration.

Presidents frequently speak directly with governors during emergency events — both to demonstrate political unity and to help coordinate federal and state relief efforts.

As the devastating Category 3 storm approached, Biden instead spoke with Tampa Mayor Jane Castor, St. Petersburg Mayor Ken Welch and Clearwater Mayor Frank Hibbard. Castor and Welch are Democrats, while Hibbard is a Republican.

DeSantis is a potential 2024 Republican presidential candidate and has frequently criticized Biden’s performance.

White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said at her regular press briefing that Biden “held separate calls” with the mayors and “discussed planning and preparation for Hurricane Ian.”

more
https://nypost.com/2022/09/27/biden-calls-florida-mayors-but-not-desantis-as-hurricane-ian-nears/
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: deb on September 27, 2022, 08:57:02 pm
I will touch base when I can -- we are supposed to see the worst tomorrow around noon until middle of Thursday.  We have a solar charged radio and cell phone charger.  The last hurricane took out a couple of cell towers, so who knows.

Thank you for prayers.  happy77 :beer:

Praying for you. May this pass quickly and without harm.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Hoodat on September 27, 2022, 09:18:30 pm
My daughter relocated to Clearwater this past weeken..  Perfect timing.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 27, 2022, 09:38:55 pm
Intensity seems to have sustained at 4:00 p.m. advisory.  Cone has shifted 30-40 miles southward.  From Vis Sat, do not see any weakening yet.  This is still a very powerful storm and sustaining its convection outflow well in every direction. I do see some slight SW to NE shear, but its doing little to hinder the storm.

Sarasota to Punta Gorda now seem to be the NHC points of impact. A great deal of the western FL coast is still in the cone too.  Still a lot can change in the next 24-36 hours.  One thing though, 10-15 storm surge is nothing to play with. Add that to Cat 3/4 winds?

Please take necessary precautions if you are in the path.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Gefn on September 27, 2022, 09:49:30 pm
My daughter relocated to Clearwater this past weeken..  Perfect timing.

Prayers for your daughter to be safe….
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Wingnut on September 27, 2022, 10:14:21 pm
My daughter relocated to Clearwater this past weeken..  Perfect timing.

The struggle is real when you move to florida! Lets see how many damn yankee's decide to go back to NY after a fewe cat 3 Plus canes hit.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 27, 2022, 10:32:59 pm
Joe Biden Avoids Phone Call with Ron DeSantis Ahead of Hurricane Ian

It’s unclear why Joe Biden is avoiding a phone call with Ron DeSantis, as he has previously contacted governors ahead of dangerous hurricanes.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/09/27/joe-biden-ignoring-phone-call-ron-desantis-ahead-hurricane-ian/
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Hoodat on September 27, 2022, 10:35:24 pm
Prayers for your daughter to be safe….

She told me that her house is up on a hill.  <sigh>
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Hoodat on September 27, 2022, 10:36:15 pm
It’s unclear why Joe Biden is avoiding a phone call with Ron DeSantis, as he has previously contacted governors ahead of dangerous hurricanes.

It's perfectly clear to me.  Joe Biden is a petty little bitch.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Gefn on September 27, 2022, 10:51:01 pm
Live thread


https://youtu.be/Nv_SePgBn14
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: rustynail on September 27, 2022, 11:08:46 pm
It's perfectly clear to me.  Joe Biden is a petty little bitch.
“Let me be clear. If you’re in a state where hurricanes often strike like Florida or the Gulf Coast or into Texas, a vital part of preparing for hurricane season is to get vaccinated,” Biden stated ahead of Hurricane Ian’s anticipated landfall on the west coast of Florida.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mountaineer on September 27, 2022, 11:24:47 pm
DeSantis War Room 🐳
@DeSantisWarRoom
·
58m
"I’m happy to brief the President if he’s interested in hearing what we’re doing in Florida... You've got people’s lives at stake...no time for pettiness, we've gotta work together to make sure we’re doing the best job for them. So my phone line is open." @RonDeSantisFL on Biden
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 28, 2022, 12:10:46 am
https://www.foxweather.com/extreme-weather/hurricane-ian-flood-florida-worst-case-scenario-nhc

(https://media.foxweather.com/weather/AL09%20Florida%20Surge%20Forecast.png)

Tampa

(https://images.foxweather.com/static.foxweather.com/www.foxweather.com/content/uploads/2022/09/1336/752/Tampa-copy.png?ve=1&tl=1)


Port Charlotte
(https://images.foxweather.com/static.foxweather.com/www.foxweather.com/content/uploads/2022/09/1336/752/PortCharlotte-copy.png?ve=1&tl=1)


Punta Gorda
(https://images.foxweather.com/static.foxweather.com/www.foxweather.com/content/uploads/2022/09/1336/752/PuntaGorda-copy.png?ve=1&tl=1)


Fort Myers
(https://images.foxweather.com/static.foxweather.com/www.foxweather.com/content/uploads/2022/09/1336/752/FortMyers-copy.png?ve=1&tl=1)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: DCPatriot on September 28, 2022, 12:22:27 am
Hurricane IAN, LIVE, HITS KEY WEST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIrhyAa2xTE

BUMP!! 
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 28, 2022, 01:23:57 am
 Biden speaks with DeSantis about Hurricane Ian
by Zach Schonfeld - 09/27/22 8:20 PM ET



President Biden spoke with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) on Tuesday evening, shortly after the governor said during a press conference that Biden had not yet called to discuss Hurricane Ian.

“President Biden spoke this evening with Governor DeSantis of Florida to discuss the steps the Federal government is taking to help Florida prepare for Hurricane Ian,” White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre tweeted. “The President and the Governor committed to continued close coordination.”

DeSantis during a press conference earlier on Tuesday evening said Biden had not called him, but the Florida Republican lauded Biden’s approval of Florida’s emergency declaration in a rare show of praise.

“I’m happy to brief the president if he’s interested in hearing what we’re doing in Florida,” DeSantis said.

“My view on all this is like, you’ve got people’s lives at stake, you’ve got their property at stake and we don’t have time for pettiness,” he continued. “We gotta work together to make sure we’re doing the best job for them, so my phone line is open.”

The White House previously stressed that the political differences between Biden and DeSantis would not affect the administration’s response to the hurricane.

DeSantis also indicated he has a good relationship with the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), which has sent personnel to Florida to assist in the state’s response.

Reporters pressed FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell at a White House press briefing earlier on Tuesday about the lack of a call between Biden and DeSantis, but she said it had not impeded planning for the storm.


“The President is very focused on making sure that the federal family has the right resources available to support this,” Criswell said. “That is why I contacted the governor right away, and we have a team of my senior leadership that are embedded with the governor to make sure that we’re supporting that.”

Biden also held calls with the mayors of Tampa, St. Petersburg and Clearwater to discuss the potential impacts of the hurricane across the state.

Hurricane Ian is expected to make landfall on Florida’s Gulf Coast between Wednesday afternoon and early Thursday morning.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/3664054-biden-speaks-with-desantis-about-hurricane-ian/
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Gefn on September 28, 2022, 01:28:20 am
Hurricane IAN, LIVE, HITS KEY WEST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIrhyAa2xTE

Oh boy, Hemingway House! I hope it and the six toed cats will be ok…..
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: cato potatoe on September 28, 2022, 01:31:24 am
Cape Coral has a storm surge problem if the path verifies.

Flooding rain is the headline along I-4.  Water tables are still high from the summer rains.

SE Florida has a day of tornadoes to deal with.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Gefn on September 28, 2022, 01:32:06 am
This guy on you tube is showing a two tornadoes in addition to the hurricane.

It’s pretty scary

https://youtu.be/Oot_sJhPqVc
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: cato potatoe on September 28, 2022, 01:34:19 am
My daughter relocated to Clearwater this past weeken..  Perfect timing.

Clearwater may have lucked out (for the 100th year in a row) other than torrential rains.  We’ll have to be wary of any major wobbles from the storm’s core, since the margin of error is pretty thin.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Hoodat on September 28, 2022, 01:55:46 am
(https://cms.accuweather.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/IanFlaZoomTrackChan27Sep7a.jpg?w=632)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Gefn on September 28, 2022, 02:01:56 am
Cuba without electricity after hurricane hammers power grid


Quote


AVANA (AP) - Hurricane Ian knocked out power across all of Cuba and devastated some of the country´s most important tobacco farms Tuesday when it slammed into the island´s western tip as a major hurricane.

Cuba´s Electric Union said in a statement that work is being done to gradually restore service to the country´s 11 million people between Tuesday night and Wednesday morning. Power was initially knocked out in Cuba's western provinces, but subsequently the entire grid collapsed.

Ian made landfall as a Category 3 hurricane early Tuesday on the island´s west coast. It devastated Pinar del Río province, where much of the tobacco used to make Cuba´s iconic cigars is grown.





https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-11256935/Cuba-without-electricity-hurricane-hammers-power-grid.html
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 28, 2022, 03:36:08 am
DeSantis War Room 🐳
@DeSantisWarRoom
·
58m
"I’m happy to brief the President if he’s interested in hearing what we’re doing in Florida... You've got people’s lives at stake...no time for pettiness, we've gotta work together to make sure we’re doing the best job for them. So my phone line is open." @RonDeSantisFL on Biden

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fdsz9EjXoAIq-k5?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: dfwgator on September 28, 2022, 03:50:58 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fdsz9EjXoAIq-k5?format=jpg&name=medium)

Watch out for that knife in your back, Ron.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 28, 2022, 04:58:36 am
About 10 hours away from eyewall hitting SW FL Coast.

This close to land, and very well clustered model tracks seem to point to a Cape Coral/Ft. Myers landfall.  Anticipated NNE turn was earlier and more prounced than the NHC previously thought.  As dire as it looked for TB yesterday, it now looks like they may see no more than 50 mph winds, especially inland.  Crazy how quickly this thing can change.

Forecasted winds at landfall are expected to be 130 mph sustained, which would make it a minimal Cat 4.  8-12 storm surge and Cat 4 winds are likely to be catastrophic.

In the last couple of hours Ian's eye has gotten kind of raggedy, which may be some potential weakening, or an eye wall replacement.  There is a nice tongue of pretty dry air inflitatrating the west side, and I see some fading pf convection on the SW quadrant of the storm.  In fact this front along the Gulf coast is filteting in enough dry air that the entire west peripheral of Ian's upper atmospheric cloud shield is eroding.

These are some positve short term signs, but I think it is too late to have any drastic impact on this monster storm,
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 28, 2022, 06:08:20 am
Prayers up for all y'all in the path of this storm!
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Kamaji on September 28, 2022, 09:24:30 am
Watch out for that knife in your back, Ron.

Indeed.  And no fake hugs, either, like Christie in NJ with Obama. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: cato potatoe on September 28, 2022, 10:51:20 am
Ian has just increased to 155 mph sustained.  Slight leftward wobble, headed toward Bradenton at the moment.  I hope some dry air entrains before the eyewall makes it to shore, otherwise, this is going to be catastrophic. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 28, 2022, 11:36:01 am
Ian has just increased to 155 mph sustained.  Slight leftward wobble, headed toward Bradenton at the moment.  I hope some dry air entrains before the eyewall makes it to shore, otherwise, this is going to be catastrophic.

If it maintains this windspeed it would make it #4 in FL History, as far as strength of winds.  #9 in intensity @ 937mb

1. Labor Day Storm of 1935- 185 mph
2. Andrew- 1992- 165 mph
3. Michael- 2018- 160 mph
4. Ian- 2022- 155 mph

Storm surge estimates have upped to 12-16' from Englewood to Bonita Beach, including Charlotte Harbor.  Here in TX Ike (2008) is kind of recent benchark for us, and it was 17'.  Dozens died, stuck and stranded because they did not heed the warning.

30% of Port Charlotte is over age 65.  Terrible potential logistics, having to evacuate and relocate te elderly. Hopefully the town and nearby Bradenton are empty besides Emergency Managers.  Site also is not a stranger to large hurricanes, with the area being hit by Charley in 2004, as a Cat 4.

Looking at this elevation map, you can see how badly 16' of water will,wreck havoc on a lot of SW Florida......

(https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Keren-Bolter-2/publication/278965307/figure/fig1/AS:669987463249944@1536748867787/Digital-Elevation-Model-of-Southeast-Florida-derived-from-Light-Detection-and-Ranging.png)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Hoodat on September 28, 2022, 01:07:18 pm
I stayed on Gasparilla Island once.  I can't imagine being there when this storm hits.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 28, 2022, 01:31:46 pm
I stayed on Gasparilla Island once.  I can't imagine being there when this storm hits.

Looking at that elevation map, looking at topo's, it looks like the entire city of Port Charlotte will innundatedwith catastrophic storm surge.  That is a city og 60K.  the offically list their elevation as 7 feet.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Kamaji on September 28, 2022, 01:38:29 pm
Satellite images show ‘apocalyptic’ Hurricane Ian approaching Florida

By Lee Brown
September 28, 2022

Daunting satellite images show bolts of lightning sparking around the massive, swirling eye of Hurricane Ian — as the “apocalyptic” storm approaches Florida Wednesday after already knocking out power in Cuba.

The timelapse by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration came as more than 2.5 million people in the Sunshine State have been urged to evacuate before the eye is expected to hit there late Wednesday.

Other images from space showed the massive storm cutting an unmissable swath across the globe as it moved through the Caribbean Sea.

“Air Force Hurricane Hunters find Ian has strengthened into an extremely dangerous category 4 hurricane,” the US National Hurricane Center in Miami said at 5 a.m. Wednesday.

*  *  *

Source:  https://nypost.com/2022/09/28/apocalyptic-hurricane-ian-seen-approaching-florida/
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Bigun on September 28, 2022, 01:42:44 pm
Prayers up for all y'all in the path of this storm!

 :amen:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 28, 2022, 01:59:33 pm
Satellite images show ‘apocalyptic’ Hurricane Ian approaching Florida

By Lee Brown
September 28, 2022

Daunting satellite images show bolts of lightning sparking around the massive, swirling eye of Hurricane Ian

Frequent peripheral lighting at eye wall Another leading indicator that storm is still strengthening.  This thing might be Cat 5 at landfall
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Idiot on September 28, 2022, 02:05:52 pm
Frequent peripheral lighting at eye wall Another leading indicator that storm is still strengthening.  This thing might be Cat 5 at landfall
Prayers for all in the path of Ian.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 28, 2022, 02:13:16 pm
Incredible.......

Outside the immediate Mexican coast near Tampico, the entire GOM is devoid of cumulus clouds. 25N- 30N Dry Ridge and Ian has sucked out atmospheric moisture dry.  Never remember seeing this before.

As far as the storm itself, I don't know if my eyes are deceiving me, but the sat loop the past couple hours kind of look like a stall....  or it might be wobble too, though.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 28, 2022, 02:32:42 pm
Expert Dan Kottlowski said.

As of 10 a.m. EDT Wednesday, Hurricane Ian had maximum sustained winds of 155 mph, just 2 mph shy of Category 5 intensity. Ian was moving north-northeastward at 10 mph, and was about 55 miles southwest of Manasota Key, Florida. Hurricane-force winds extended outward 40 miles and winds of tropical storm force reached 175 miles from the center, according to the National Hurricane Center (NHC).

(https://cms.accuweather.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/RadarImageIan10am28Sep.jpg?w=632)

more
https://www.accuweather.com/en/hurricane/hurricane-ian-to-make-landfall-in-florida-as-major-hurricane/1253655?utm_source=wnd&utm_medium=wnd&utm_campaign=syndicated
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 28, 2022, 02:37:03 pm
https://twitter.com/JMichaelsNews/status/1575109965320056832
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 28, 2022, 02:48:50 pm
https://twitter.com/JMichaelsNews/status/1575109965320056832

This was very similar to Ike in '08.  Though Ike was only a Cat 2, it accumulated enough surface convection and square miles that it basically became a dome of sea water.  Don't forget surge very often does not correlate with atmospheric pressures or wind speeds.

Storm surge in my neck of the woods was the worst in my lifetime.

Also for interest, if Ian does even slightly strengthen, it would be only the 5th hurricane in continental U.S. History to strike as a Cat 5.

1. 1935 Great Labor Day Hurricane- South Florida
2. 1969- Camille- LA/MS coast
3. 1992- Andrew- South Florida
4. 2018- Michael- FL panhandle
5  ?
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 28, 2022, 02:59:06 pm
I know the offical NHC advisory says that storm is moving NNE.  But from my view of the last 4 hrs. of sat. loops, this thing looks a lot more like a northward vector than NNE.

Tampa Bay might not want to let their guard down just yet.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 28, 2022, 03:07:47 pm
To put the size of this storm in perspective, Ian right now has feeder bands impacting both Cuba and Cape Hatteras.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: DCPatriot on September 28, 2022, 03:08:07 pm
I know the offical NHC advisory says that storm is moving NNE.  But from my view of the last 4 hrs. of sat. loops, this thing looks a lot more like a northward vector than NNE.

Tampa Bay might not want to let their guard down just yet.

Predicted it would focus on the Panhandle and skirt Ft. Myers, Sarasota and Tampa.

Why I don't buy lottery tickets...or bet on sports.   happy77



Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 28, 2022, 03:22:37 pm
Predicted it would focus on the Panhandle and skirt Ft. Myers, Sarasota and Tampa.

Why I don't buy lottery tickets...or bet on sports.   happy77

Even with all the fancy models and technology, in the past 15 years NHC average forecasting error out 3 days is 100 miles.  5 days? 200 miles.

Not exactly random, but those kind of errors wreck havoc for Emergency Managers.  When I used to do that at a plant, the back and forth of relying the ebb and flow of good/bad weather data  made it tough to make decisons.

Still remember my plant manger asking me if he needed to shut the plant down during Rita.  Talk about stressful.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Hoodat on September 28, 2022, 03:29:48 pm
When I used to do that at a plant, the back and forth of relying the ebb and flow of good/bad weather data  made it tough to make decisons.

Still remember my plant manger asking me if he needed to shut the plant down during Rita.  Talk about stressful.

I always wanted to ride one out on a Gulf platform.  But this particular corp. once had one break loose from its tendons and flip over.  That would suck.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 28, 2022, 03:42:22 pm
I always wanted to ride one out on a Gulf platform.  But this particular corp. once had one break loose from its tendons and flip over.  That would suck.

What kind of wind were those rigs designed to withstand?  Don't know if I'd like to be on that kind of ride out crew.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 28, 2022, 03:47:48 pm
From radar vantage, eye wall is now hitting what appears to be barrier islands between Cape Coral and Englewood.  Base on N/NNE trek appears the towns of Englewood and Venice are gong to be in the eye the next couple of hours.

Sarasota and Brandenton afterwards and probably by the western eye wall.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: corbe on September 28, 2022, 03:55:29 pm
   Meanwhile in front of the @Wingnut residence

(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/116/755/235/original/5e8d711deeb7f5ed.jpg)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 28, 2022, 03:56:28 pm
One other point to warn FL Briefers.....   even if you are 50-200 miles from the storm, keep an eye on the sky for tornadoes.  Biggest risk is normally at landfall, and a few hours afterwards after landfall.  Especially east and north of the COC.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Wingnut on September 28, 2022, 03:57:17 pm
   Meanwhile in front of the @Wingnut residence

(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/116/755/235/original/5e8d711deeb7f5ed.jpg)

Don't be making fun of my "Personal Floatation Device" now.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 28, 2022, 03:59:36 pm
Don't be making fun of my "Personal Floatation Device" now.

 :silly:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Hoodat on September 28, 2022, 04:32:40 pm
What kind of wind were those rigs designed to withstand?  Don't know if I'd like to be on that kind of ride out crew.

The one I was on, maybe 180-200 mph.  But this was deepwater.  The tendons are a mile long.  We went through several hurricanes during my time there.  On return, there may have been some things broken off here and there.  But never a breach of any inside areas.  And normally the ballast tanks would keep it upright even if it broke loose.  But no telling where it would end up.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 28, 2022, 04:45:53 pm
Haunting Video From Tampa Shows Ocean Disappearing


Kay Smythe
News and Commentary Writer
September 28, 2022 9:53 AM ET


A Twitter video shared Wednesday appears to show the ocean in Tampa disappearing as Hurricane Ian is set to make landfall.

What was once described as a “once in a lifetime tidal event” by NBC News in 2017 during the onset of Hurricane Irma has reportedly occurred again: the ocean along Florida’s coastline is receding rapidly out to sea as Hurricane Ian draws ever closer, as seen in a video shared on Twitter.

Hurricane Irma was the most powerful Atlantic hurricane on record, but the standard set by the enormous 2017 storm may be broken on Wednesday as Hurricane Ian gains strength approaching a Category 5 weather event. During the 2017 storm, meteorologists warned local residents playing on the tidal flats, typically feet under water, that the ocean would return as the eye of Hurricane Irma passed over Florida, according to NBC.

https://twitter.com/JordanSteele/status/1575103067946565633

more
https://dailycaller.com/2022/09/28/tampa-video-ocean-disappearing-hurricane-ian/
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Sighlass on September 28, 2022, 04:47:22 pm
Looks to me like near stall then more easternly turn now... I know this cold mass in Alabama (to me anyhoo) would suggest it will not make it as far north as some predictions. Just my gut feeling.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: cato potatoe on September 28, 2022, 04:59:15 pm
Naples has unprecedented surge, likely inundating the bottom floor of the most expensive properties.  Marco Island is bound to be in the same position.  Cape Coral is a town of 190,000 built on a network of canals.  I don’t know where insured losses will rate in comparison to Harvey, but it will be the all time worst for Florida. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Wingnut on September 28, 2022, 05:06:28 pm
Looks to me like near stall then more easternly turn now... I know this cold mass in Alabama (to me anyhoo) would suggest it will not make it as far north as some predictions. Just my gut feeling.

Yep.  We have some very cool northern air that the wind is blowin to the south east.  Winds up here are 17-20 MPH with gusts in the 30's. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Wingnut on September 28, 2022, 05:37:15 pm
I have been trying to explain to my Midwestern friends and relatives I will be okay.  These people know tornadoes but are clueless on how a cane works. 


Chill and save your prayers for the people who need them. There's nothing to worry about.
When it comes to hurricanes below the Midwestern plains of America... As long as you're to the West of the eye, you just don't get the big damage that develops to the East of the eye.
Hurricanes pull an enormous amount of air from very, very far away. All the air pressure from the Northwest, gets sucked "down" towards it and then continues to move down in the the Southeastern direction, after it hits the eye.
Time after time, hurricane after hurricane, for decades... The immediate left of the eye is practically a "safe zone". When hurricane Michael hit Mexico Beach/Panama City a couple of years ago, all we got was rain and some blown around garbage cans. But Panama City, which is roughly an hour away, got demolished.
Only if a hurricane eye of a Cat 4 + directly hits the Destin area (where we are), or even worse, hits Pensacola (an hour to the West of us), would even consider evacuating.

Right now, the skies are a beautiful dark blue with no clouds in sight. It's as dry as a bone. Normally the sky is light blue, due to the humidity. But because the hurricane is sucking ALL the moisture into it, all we have is a pleasant 70° breeze, crystal clear skies and fresh, dry air from the North.
We'll be fine.
Tampa and Orlando are f*cked, though.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 28, 2022, 06:08:21 pm
Sanibel is getting hit hard..I hope my sister's house can withstand it....she is/was in the process of getting her kitchen remolded....she was laughing about it yesterday...
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Hoodat on September 28, 2022, 06:41:02 pm
Sanibel is getting hit hard..I hope my sister's house can withstand it....she is/was in the process of getting her kitchen remolded....she was laughing about it yesterday...

She'll have plenty of mold after this is over.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 28, 2022, 07:37:00 pm
Short term sat loops show eye collapsing (or reforming) near Arcadia.  That is some good news that storm will rapidly weakening. 

Still those folks in the immediate area of landfall were hammered.  I expect to see extreme devastation when the first film becomes available.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 28, 2022, 07:48:39 pm
She'll have plenty of mold after this is over.

LOL....remodeled...didn't even notice the misspelling
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 28, 2022, 07:55:49 pm
Hurricane Ian floodwaters reach Fort Meyers as storm makes landfall in Southwest Florida

(https://a57.foxnews.com/livenews.foxnews.com/images/2022/09/960/540/ce81815b3ca2895246969780c53c6c0c.jpg?tl=1&ve=1)

A home in Fort Myers is flooded as Hurricane Ian sweeps through Florida.

A look at floodwaters reaching the roof of a home in Fort Meyers, where mandatory evacuation orders are underway amid Hurricane Ian making landfall in Southwest Florida.
Posted by Bradford Betz
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 28, 2022, 07:59:09 pm
https://twitter.com/mikebettes/status/1575180210219139080
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 28, 2022, 08:00:20 pm
Why isn't Fox showing all this..instead we get reporters standing in the middle of the street fighting the wind...pitiful coverage..
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 28, 2022, 08:01:01 pm
https://twitter.com/wxkaitlin/status/1575159632963813377
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 28, 2022, 08:03:48 pm
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1575214356295450634
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: berdie on September 28, 2022, 08:18:45 pm
Haunting Video From Tampa Shows Ocean Disappearing


Kay Smythe
News and Commentary Writer
September 28, 2022 9:53 AM ET


A Twitter video shared Wednesday appears to show the ocean in Tampa disappearing as Hurricane Ian is set to make landfall.

What was once described as a “once in a lifetime tidal event” by NBC News in 2017 during the onset of Hurricane Irma has reportedly occurred again: the ocean along Florida’s coastline is receding rapidly out to sea as Hurricane Ian draws ever closer, as seen in a video shared on Twitter.

Hurricane Irma was the most powerful Atlantic hurricane on record, but the standard set by the enormous 2017 storm may be broken on Wednesday as Hurricane Ian gains strength approaching a Category 5 weather event. During the 2017 storm, meteorologists warned local residents playing on the tidal flats, typically feet under water, that the ocean would return as the eye of Hurricane Irma passed over Florida, according to NBC.

https://twitter.com/JordanSteele/status/1575103067946565633

more
https://dailycaller.com/2022/09/28/tampa-video-ocean-disappearing-hurricane-ian/




Isn't that what typically happens before a tsunami?
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 28, 2022, 08:18:48 pm
https://twitter.com/PMBreakingNews/status/1575217357030821888
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 28, 2022, 08:21:03 pm
https://twitter.com/johnrich/status/1575218240611041281
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: berdie on September 28, 2022, 08:21:08 pm
Why isn't Fox showing all this..instead we get reporters standing in the middle of the street fighting the wind...pitiful coverage..


I have never understood the reasoning behind having reporters stand out in the wind/rain. I wonder how the networks decide who will do this.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 28, 2022, 08:38:51 pm
https://twitter.com/itsbethbooker/status/1575189530943946752
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 28, 2022, 08:50:35 pm
(https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/09/918/516/ezgif-4-92354df46f.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
The city of Naples, FL during Hurricane Ian on September 28, 2022. The streets are flooded and wind strongly gusts the trees.  (City of Naples)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: rustynail on September 28, 2022, 09:12:20 pm
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1575217259169329152
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 28, 2022, 09:52:21 pm
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1575217259169329152

Guy's been doing stupid shit like this for about 40 years.

The law of averages catches up to you at some point.  Maybe this was a divine warning.

I had to go out in the middle of Rita to move a limb that threatend a window, with 100+ mph wind  Was not a safe feeling to say the least.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 28, 2022, 09:58:08 pm
DeSantis just announced the Cajun Navy was on the way....   Hooo Yah!!!!!

Kudos to those guys.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 28, 2022, 10:00:58 pm
Ft. Myers ----

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/09/28/21/1664395855422_lc_galleryImage_This_is_Diamondhead_Beach.JPG)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 28, 2022, 10:02:39 pm
Has anybody heard fron @libertybele?  I imagine she has no cell phone service.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: rustynail on September 28, 2022, 10:06:23 pm
If a boat ends up in your yard do you get to keep it?
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 28, 2022, 10:07:49 pm
Has anybody heard fron @libertybele?  I imagine she has no cell phone service.

I don't know where she exactly is, but she sadly lamented about '04 Charley.  I did hear today, that Ian incredibly hit the exact spot Charley did.

And, she mentioned she might be riding it out.  Definitely all need to pray for her safety.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 28, 2022, 10:08:02 pm
Pink Shell Resort in Ft. Myers ----

Before:
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/09/28/18/1664387673236_lc_galleryImage_Incredible_before_after_j.JPG)

After:
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/09/28/18/1664387688460_lc_galleryImage_Incredible_before_after_j.JPG)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mountaineer on September 28, 2022, 10:09:49 pm
Has anybody heard fron libertybele?  I imagine she has no cell phone service.
I suspect she's hunkered down. Continued - constant, actually - prayers for her safety.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 28, 2022, 10:12:35 pm
Naples--

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/09/28/18/1664387282623_lc_galleryImage_Naples_Florida_11250413_A.JPG)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 28, 2022, 10:16:43 pm
Naples--

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/09/28/18/1664387282623_lc_galleryImage_Naples_Florida_11250413_A.JPG)

That is an amazing example of storm surge.  Inundation is coming in so quickly it is creating white caps.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 28, 2022, 10:22:31 pm
Naples----

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/09/28/21/62900705-11250413-image-a-22_1664397023438.jpg)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 28, 2022, 10:25:30 pm
Monstrous EIGHTEEN FOOT storm surge swallows Fort Myers and leaves hundreds of families clinging to their rooftops: Record-breaking Hurricane Ian leaves one million without power and sends tsunami of flood water crashing up West Coast

Horrifying footage showed wave after wave smash the small city of Fort Myers, swallowing buildings and cars
It sees the 'unsurvivable' torrent of water engulf palm trees in the tropical resort and rip some from their roots
The tempest was forced forwards by 155mph winds - only the fifth storm in history to smack land at that speed
Meanwhile Naples and Sanibel Island were also rocked by the 'historic' hurricane, with houses overwhelmed
Across the state 1,103,460  homes saw blackouts and Ron DeSantis said he expected it to be millions

More:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11250413/Ian-strengthens-Category-1-hurricane-nears-Cuba-NHC.html
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 28, 2022, 10:45:11 pm
I don't know where she exactly is, but she sadly lamented about '04 Charley.  I did hear today, that Ian incredibly hit the exact spot Charley did.

And, she mentioned she might be riding it out.  Definitely all need to pray for her safety.

We had reservations twice out of here then cancelled as they predicted north FL first, then Tampa, now they are predicting a Cat 4 to be right on top of us with a high storm surge.  So praying.  Our neighbor next to us (I finally met him) is staying and our neighbors next to them are also staying. They had mandatory evacuations but we were not included in that evacuation but we are still vulnerable.  Lots of FL is vulnerable.

We have all the windows shuttered with hurricane code compliant shutters, garage is hurricane compliant and stained glass front door is supposed to be hurricane resistant so, we'll soon find out.  Home is 5 years old and hopefully was built to current hurricane codes.

So.... bracing for impact and praying.

Yes, TB has dodged a bullet -- they will see minimal storm surge and maybe a Cat 1

I am much further south and I am bracing for impact @catfish1957

I will touch base when I can -- we are supposed to see the worst tomorrow around noon until middle of Thursday.  We have a solar charged radio and cell phone charger.  The last hurricane took out a couple of cell towers, so who knows.

Thank you for prayers.  happy77 :beer:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Gefn on September 28, 2022, 11:34:11 pm
I suspect she's hunkered down. Continued - constant, actually - prayers for her safety.

Yep…hope she and her family are ok
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on September 28, 2022, 11:47:46 pm
My parents are stuck in their condo in Fort Myers Beach, no power, both cars submerged and gone. 4th floor.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 28, 2022, 11:50:04 pm
My parents are stuck in their condo in Fort Myers Beach, no power, both cars submerged and gone. 4th floor.

Oh my...I'm afraid to call my sister....she lives in Chicago but her winter home is on Sanibel...from what I can see on the news it looks like the Island is under water.... :shrug:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Idiot on September 28, 2022, 11:54:03 pm
Naples has unprecedented surge, likely inundating the bottom floor of the most expensive properties.  Marco Island is bound to be in the same position.  Cape Coral is a town of 190,000 built on a network of canals.  I don’t know where insured losses will rate in comparison to Harvey, but it will be the all time worst for Florida.
No problemo.....just sue the oil co's that caused the climate change that created this storm.  Don't believe me?  Just turn on any new station....
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on September 28, 2022, 11:57:33 pm
No problemo.....just sue the oil co's that caused the climate change that created this storm.  Don't believe me?  Just turn on any new station....

Really? Are any blaming oil companies? Haven't heard that so far? Disgusting if true.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 29, 2022, 12:44:19 am
"This is the Fire-station in Naples 😱🙁 🙏 #naplesflorida  #Hurricane_Ian"  (Video)

https://mobile.twitter.com/AMErikaNGIRLLL/status/1575265993563291649
Title: Re: A hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico next week? Forecasters warn of 'significant threat' to US.
Post by: Idiot on September 29, 2022, 12:50:44 am
Neither the National Hurricane Center or local weather stations are giving any definitive information.  They are all saying it's too early to tell.  We in this area have a new doplar 3X that's supposed to be very accurate -- all they are saying again is it's too early to say anything.

Latest spaghetti models.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdQJC_OXEAEJTIJ?format=jpg&name=small)
Seems like a later than normal hurricane season. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Hoodat on September 29, 2022, 12:51:35 am
MSDNC has broken away from their non-stop 'Jan 6 / Trump' propaganda just long enough to showcase Florida as a horrible place to live.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Gefn on September 29, 2022, 12:55:48 am
Wild video shows shark thrashing in surge waters of Hurricane Ian as storm bombards Florida


Quote


A SHARK has been filmed swimming in the rising flood waters of Hurricane Ian, terrifying onlookers and viewers alike.

A video shared on Twitter Wednesday captured the creature as it thrashed against the surge waters off Fort Myers Beach while Florida gets bombarded by the storm.



https://www.the-sun.com/news/6323974/shark-found-in-surge-waters-hurricane-ian/
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 29, 2022, 12:58:53 am
"This is the Fire-station in Naples 😱🙁 🙏 #naplesflorida  #Hurricane_Ian"  (Video)

https://mobile.twitter.com/AMErikaNGIRLLL/status/1575265993563291649

I have seen this on Fox...why on earth didn't they move these engines to high ground...now they are all under water....reminds me of the buses during Katrina...
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 29, 2022, 01:04:20 am
I have seen this on Fox...why on earth didn't they move these engines to high ground...now they are all under water....reminds me of the buses during Katrina...

Great question ----
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 29, 2022, 01:05:21 am
"I've been capturing video from this webcam in Fort Myers all day and I've put it into a Timelapse. Check out the storm surge rushing in! Crazy. #Ian #flwx'  (Video)

https://twitter.com/WxBrenn/status/1575253395304288271
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: corbe on September 29, 2022, 01:07:50 am
    I suppose the Media will wait till morning, when Ian leaves Florida, to concentrate on the Looting.

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fab593fef7820f3c499444b4ee71ebd9bf5ba33e63852f2ddb442bea6d49c979.jpg)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 29, 2022, 02:12:09 am
    I suppose the Media will wait till morning, when Ian leaves Florida, to concentrate on the Looting.

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fab593fef7820f3c499444b4ee71ebd9bf5ba33e63852f2ddb442bea6d49c979.jpg)

I heard earlier on Fox that it has already started....a few were looting a gas station..
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Sighlass on September 29, 2022, 02:37:55 am
I heard earlier on Fox that it has already started....a few were looting a gas station..

Where there is an overwhelming of police... there will be looting in high minority areas.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Wingnut on September 29, 2022, 02:45:33 am
Where there is an overwhelming of police... there will be looting in high minority areas.

there are an overwhelming number of rednecks that will shoot their ass down here.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Gefn on September 29, 2022, 11:29:32 am
Nine lives! Good Samaritan risks life to rescue cat perched on air conditioner as raging waters from Hurricane Ian surround it


Quote


As Floridians brace for Hurricane Ian which made landfall late Wednesday afternoon, one resident put his life at risk to rescue a feline who was left vulnerable to the raging storm.

A video posted to Twitter by Megan Cruz Scavo has gained massive attention for a display of good humanity in action.

The video, taken in Bonita, on the state's southwest coast, shows Cruz Scavo's boyfriend, Michael, wading through the knee-high water, trudging towards an air conditioner unit where a cat was perched on top.




https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11260003/Good-Samaritan-risks-life-rescue-cat-raging-waters-Hurricane-Ian-surround-it.html


 88888walking kitty 8888sitting kitty 888heartkitty 8888spinning cat


Ping
@Hopalong Ginsberg
@Cyber Liberty
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mountaineer on September 29, 2022, 12:57:01 pm
I think this sheriff may be jumping the gun. Wait till the waters recede.
Quote
Janice Dean
@JaniceDean
Per Lee County Sherriff Carmine Marceno
“We have fatalities in the hundreds”
7:21 AM · Sep 29, 2022·
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 29, 2022, 01:09:43 pm
 'Fatalities are in the hundreds': Sheriff gives heartbreaking Hurricane update
Hurricane Ian downgrades to tropical storm, but experts warn it’s not over
Cami Mondeaux
 | 31 minutes ago

After Hurricane Ian swept through Florida on Thursday, the storm left millions without power, and officials are predicting hundreds of fatalities.

“Fatalities are in the hundreds,” Lee County Sheriff Carmine Marceno told Good Morning America on Thursday.

Ian was moving northeast across Florida at about 8 mph with maximum sustained winds of 65 mph at 5 a.m. Thursday, according to the National Hurricane Center. However, the agency warned that Ian could pick back up and reach hurricane strength as it reaches Florida’s east coast on Saturday, posing risks to Georgia and the Carolinas.

The NHC downgraded Hurricane Ian to tropical storm status early Thursday morning after the storm began to weaken gradually overnight Wednesday as it moved across central Florida.

It’s not yet clear how many fatalities or injuries have been sustained due to Ian, and there have not been any reports or numbers from state officials.

President Joe Biden declared a major disaster for Florida early Thursday morning, approving the distribution of federal aid to supplement recovery efforts in the aftermath of Ian. This federal assistance includes grants for temporary housing and home repairs, loans to insure property losses, and other programs to assist business owners in recovering from the storm’s damage.

more
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/hurricane-ian-updates-florida-fatalities-hundreds

Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mountaineer on September 29, 2022, 01:12:49 pm
Still not clear that these are confirmed dead. Sounds like an educated guess on the sheriff's part.
Quote
‘Hundreds’ confirmed dead after Hurricane Ian decimates Florida
By Lee Brown   
September 29, 2022 8:54am

Historic Hurricane Ian has already killed “hundreds” of people in Florida, a sheriff in the hardest-hit region revealed early Thursday — but the death toll is expected to swell as Floridians wake up to assess the true extent of the destruction in daylight.

“This is a life-changing event for all of us, Lee County Sheriff Carmine Marceno told “Good Morning America.”

I don’t have confirmed numbers — I definitely know the fatalities are in the hundreds,” he added.

“So far, confirmed in the hundreds,” he said, noting that conditions were too dire for his officers and other rescuers to get a true sense of the disaster. ...
NY Post (https://nypost.com/2022/09/29/hundreds-confirmed-dead-from-hurricane-ian-sheriff/)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 29, 2022, 01:13:29 pm
 September 29, 2022 8:37am EDT
Hurricane Ian sweeps away section of Sanibel Causeway, cutting off all vehicle access
Hurricane Ian rendered the causeway and the nearby Pine Island Bridge 'not passable,' Gov. Ron DeSantis confirmed
By Anders Hagstrom | Fox News

  Hurricane Ian destroyed a section of the Sanibel Causeway connecting Sanibel Island and Captiva with mainland Florida, preventing all access for ground vehicles.

Meteorologist Bryan Bennett first showed the collapsed section on Twitter, revealing a missing portion of the causeway dozens of feet long. Storm reporters with the Tampa Bay Times also confirmed the damage, saying the missing section comes right before the bridge rises up toward the island.

Republican Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis confirmed that the Sanibel Causeway is "not passable" during a Thursday press briefing. He said both the causeway and the nearby Pine Island Bridge will both require a "structural rebuild."

The Sanibel Causeway is a 12-mile stretch of road that rises into a bridge connecting the island with the mainland. The bridge is the only land-access route between the two areas.

https://twitter.com/weatherbryan/status/1575437689452695552

more
https://www.foxnews.com/us/hurricane-ian-sweeps-away-section-sanibel-causeway-cutting-off-all-vehicle-access
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 29, 2022, 01:21:43 pm
https://rumble.com/embed/v1jbb02/?pub=4
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 29, 2022, 01:30:28 pm
UPDATE: Lee County sheriff can't confirm number of dead following Ian

UPDATE: Speaking on the program after the interview, Co-anchor George Stephanopolous said GMA had reached back out to the sheriff following his remarks and Marceno said that he can't confirm the numbers.

The sheriff of Lee County, Florida, told "Good Morning America" on Thursday morning that deaths from the storm in the area were in the hundreds.

"We have fatalities in the hundreds," Sheriff Carmine Marceno said, although noting he couldn't confirm specific numbers.
Posted by Julia Musto
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 29, 2022, 01:43:10 pm
Still not clear that these are confirmed dead. Sounds like an educated guess on the sheriff's part.NY Post (https://nypost.com/2022/09/29/hundreds-confirmed-dead-from-hurricane-ian-sheriff/)

This reminds me so much of Ike in '08, which also had a significant death toll around an near High Island.  All because of complacency, and not understanding or caring about the danger of storm surge. 

Sadly, they just don't get the math.  If your house is 6' MSL, and a wall of water 18' hits you.  You not only have to deal with the inundation, but the force of that water, which most often reeks destruction everywhere in its path.

I had to ride out at home Rita in '05, and Ike in '08, even 50 miles inland because of my job as Emergency Manager.   Both were harrowing experiences, even w/o storm surge.  I just don't understand the mentality to risk your life for potential events which there is plenty of historical documentation of what the consequences might be.

Hundreds?  What a waste and what a travesty.....
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Wingnut on September 29, 2022, 01:53:10 pm
September 29, 2022 8:37am EDT
Hurricane Ian sweeps away section of Sanibel Causeway, cutting off all vehicle access
Hurricane Ian rendered the causeway and the nearby Pine Island Bridge 'not passable,' Gov. Ron DeSantis confirmed
By Anders Hagstrom | Fox News

  Hurricane Ian destroyed a section of the Sanibel Causeway connecting Sanibel Island and Captiva with mainland Florida, preventing all access for ground vehicles.

Meteorologist Bryan Bennett first showed the collapsed section on Twitter, revealing a missing portion of the causeway dozens of feet long. Storm reporters with the Tampa Bay Times also confirmed the damage, saying the missing section comes right before the bridge rises up toward the island.

Republican Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis confirmed that the Sanibel Causeway is "not passable" during a Thursday press briefing. He said both the causeway and the nearby Pine Island Bridge will both require a "structural rebuild."

The Sanibel Causeway is a 12-mile stretch of road that rises into a bridge connecting the island with the mainland. The bridge is the only land-access route between the two areas.

https://twitter.com/weatherbryan/status/1575437689452695552

more
https://www.foxnews.com/us/hurricane-ian-sweeps-away-section-sanibel-causeway-cutting-off-all-vehicle-access

There are a couple car ferry's in the area.  One runs From Englewood to the Palm Island Resort.  Don't know if it would be practical for Sanibel /Captiva.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: DCPatriot on September 29, 2022, 02:01:36 pm
This reminds me so much of Ike in '08, which also had a significant death toll around an near High Island.  All because of complacency, and not understanding or caring about the danger of storm surge. 

Sadly, they just don't get the math.  If your house is 6' MSL, and a wall of water 18' hits you.  You not only have to deal with the inundation, but the force of that water, which most often reeks destruction everywhere in its path.

I had to ride out at home Rita in '05, and Ike in '08, even 50 miles inland because of my job as Emergency Manager.   Both were harrowing experiences, even w/o storm surge.  I just don't understand the mentality to risk your life for potential events which there is plenty of historical documentation of what the consequences might be.

Hundreds?  What a waste and what a travesty.....

Agree you for the most part, @catfish1957

Sadly...don't get the "math"?

Virtually every major storm of the past 20 years has gotten 24/7 PRE-LANDFALL television coverage and every single time it's ended up only half as strong/bad as projected.  Ergo, it's not surprising how many people "rode it out".

Furthermore, if it's true that over 70% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck and even 'living' on credit cards...so evacuation and meals on the road/hotel room is not an option.

Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 29, 2022, 02:13:17 pm
Agree you for the most part, @catfish1957

Sadly...don't get the "math"?

Virtually every major storm of the past 20 years has gotten 24/7 PRE-LANDFALL television coverage and every single time it's ended up only half as strong/bad as projected.  Ergo, it's not surprising how many people "rode it out".

Furthermore, if it's true that over 70% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck and even 'living' on credit cards...so evacuation and meals on the road/hotel room is not an option.


"Better Safe than Sorry"

I'd venture 99% of the victims had either at least one willing friend or family member who lives above 20' MSL.  Cost is/was not an issue.

Plus there are always pre-planned Red Cross evac locations that at worst are available, (and transport too) with a simple 211 call.

Every life lost there was preventable.  Complacency, ego, machismo, or arrogant ignorance are all root causes.

Now, if any are in emergency managment.....   That is a different discussion.  Then it is a planning issue.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 29, 2022, 03:04:02 pm
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1575496904770613257
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Idiot on September 29, 2022, 03:05:26 pm
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1575496904770613257
WOW!  He's awake...
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 29, 2022, 03:12:34 pm
Could be a File Photo.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Hoodat on September 29, 2022, 03:27:02 pm
https://rumble.com/embed/v1jbb02/?pub=4

Don Lemon didn't grow up in Florida.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Hoodat on September 29, 2022, 03:32:06 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd1KDx5aMAIRZoT?format=jpg&name=small)

I always get a kick out of photos like this.  Notice that there isn't a single note or piece of paper on the entire desk other than the one he is holding a pen to.  And notice the paper coffee cup with the plastic lid, as if the President doesn't have special ceramic cups with the Presidential seal of them.  And then finally, does anyone actually expect me to believe that Joe Biden is capable of talking on the phone with one hand and writing at the same time with the other?
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Wingnut on September 29, 2022, 03:34:34 pm
Only a mater of time now before the TV Ghouls start the "Death Count" meters from Ian. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Hoodat on September 29, 2022, 03:44:58 pm
Only a mater of time now before the TV Ghouls start the "Death Count" meters from Ian.


HOW COULD DESANTIS LET ALL THOSE PEOPLE DIE ????
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Wingnut on September 29, 2022, 03:55:40 pm

HOW COULD DESANTIS LET ALL THOSE PEOPLE DIE ????


This is bigger than Covid. DeathSantis is killing people!
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on September 29, 2022, 04:21:30 pm
I have seen this on Fox...why on earth didn't they move these engines to high ground...now they are all under water....reminds me of the buses during Katrina...

I don't know the configuration of the landscape there, but here in the coast of Texas where I live, there is no "high ground."
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: GtHawk on September 29, 2022, 04:25:34 pm
Only a mater of time now before the TV Ghouls start the "Death Count" meters from Ian.
But wait there's more! Don't forget those that will blame Trump for four years lost in stopping CLIMATE CHANGE, if only we had taxed the nation into submission while also shutting down the nation because of Covid.....there wouldn't be as many Americans left with property in Florida to be affected by a naturally occurring hurricane.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on September 29, 2022, 04:26:55 pm
@libertybele

Been praying for you, girlfriend. Ping me when you're able to get back online so I can know you're safe. Still praying.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 29, 2022, 04:52:33 pm
Ft. Myers ----

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/09/29/16/62932969-11261707-image-a-122_1664465254579.jpg)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 29, 2022, 04:55:18 pm
The Causeway ----

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/09/29/16/62932339-11261707-image-m-108_1664464234635.jpg)


(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/09/29/17/62935629-11261707-image-a-58_1664469132048.jpg)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 29, 2022, 05:06:15 pm
(https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/cc45d38/2147483647/strip/true/crop/3000x2062+0+0/resize/1440x990!/format/webp/quality/80/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fda%2Fa4%2Fd09923a946018fce97ebfca61a0b%2Fgettyimages-1428698188.jpg)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 29, 2022, 05:11:27 pm
"Florida First Lady @CaseyDeSantis thanks First Responders, Volunteers, & people Donating to those impacted by the Hurricane"  (Video)

https://mobile.twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1575494201361702912
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 29, 2022, 05:25:14 pm
"Florida Gov. DeSantis on Lee County Sheriff claiming that "hundreds" have died following Hurricane Ian'  (Video)

https://mobile.twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1575515609709875201
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 29, 2022, 05:28:05 pm
POTUS: "To oil and gas executives: Do not, do not, do not use this storm as an excuse to raise gasoline prices or gouge the American public. [...] America is watching and the industry should do the right thing."  (Video)

https://mobile.twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1575535173961191426
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Wingnut on September 29, 2022, 05:33:19 pm
I want to point out that when you hear there was a "Mandatory Evac Order given" it may or may not mean you MUST evacuate.  Each FL county operates differently.  When Hurricane Michael was on the way the Sherriff's Dept drove thru our neighborhood (I live on a peninsula) playing a Load Speaker message saying there was a Mandatory Evac order followed by if you stay you are on your own.  They will not remove anyone from their home.

Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Idiot on September 29, 2022, 05:40:04 pm
I want to point out that when you hear there was a "Mandatory Evac Order given" it may or may not mean you MUST evacuate.  Each FL county operates differently.  When Hurricane Michael was on the way the Sherriff's Dept drove thru our neighborhood (I live on a peninsula) playing a Load Speaker message saying there was a Mandatory Evac order followed by if you stay you are on your own.  They will not remove anyone from their home.
Glad you are ok @Wingnut .  At least physically...  happy77
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Wingnut on September 29, 2022, 05:41:19 pm
Glad you are ok @Wingnut .  At least physically...  happy77
:beer:

 22222frying pan
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Wingnut on September 29, 2022, 06:20:09 pm

FLORIDA Published September 29, 2022 1:26pm EDT
Tropical Storm Ian: First confirmed death is 72-year-old Florida man who was draining pool during storm
(Deltona FL)

Yeah you know, Deltona is pretty far from were Ian it land.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 29, 2022, 06:24:30 pm
Brzezinski: Hurricanes Are More Intense Due to Human-Caused Climate Change

Pam Key 29 Sep 2022

Mika Brzezinski told her co-hosts Thursday on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” in the aftermath of Hurricane Ian in Florida that storms are worsening because the temperature in the world’s oceans was rising partly due to human-caused climate change.

Co-host Willie Geist said, “The Miami Herald leads with this image of flooded streets in downtown Fort Myers, and The Tampa Bay Times has this photo of a displaced sailboat near a roadway.”

Brzezinski said, “As we’re covering what some are calling the storm of a lifetime, The Washington Post has a feature on why Florida is more prone to hurricanes, and it’s got a lot to do with the state’s unique geography.”

more
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/09/29/brzezinski-hurricanes-are-more-intense-due-to-human-caused-climate-change/
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Hoodat on September 29, 2022, 06:26:36 pm
When Hurricane Michael was on the way the Sherriff's Dept drove thru our neighborhood (I live on a peninsula) playing a Load Speaker message saying there was a Mandatory Evac order

(https://imgs.search.brave.com/2tchDVE-WfpYNiTXQ5X0mAoKUlztmtmZb_cIaKsaDas/rs:fit:719:384:1/g:ce/aHR0cDovL3BpY3Mu/aW1jZGIub3JnLzBp/czI1MS9ibHVlc2Jy/b3RoZXJzYmx1ZXNt/b2JpbC43NjkuanBn)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: cato potatoe on September 29, 2022, 06:26:53 pm
Ian is forecast to regain minimal hurricane status, hook left, and strike the SC coast, bringing a moderate amount of storm surge to a wide area.  Due to a tight pressure gradient, tropical storm warnings have been posted inland to Winston-Salem, NC.  There is a risk of tornadoes in eastern NC and the Tidewater.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: cato potatoe on September 29, 2022, 06:27:34 pm
Nice to see Biden playing grievance politics at every turn. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Bigun on September 29, 2022, 06:38:03 pm
Ft. Myers ----

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/09/29/16/62932969-11261707-image-a-122_1664465254579.jpg)

That brings back memories of what the Bolivar Peninsula here in Texas looked like after hurricane Ike which was only a Cat II storm.

(https://www.weather.gov/images/hgx/projects/ike08/images/bolivar/bolivar44(IMG_9174).JPG)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 29, 2022, 06:56:34 pm
DeSantis on Hurricane Ian response: This is going to be a 24/7 operation, Sanibel 'is destruction'

(https://a57.foxnews.com/livenews.foxnews.com/images/2022/09/960/540/6df67247993a21b28b3102ac08ac72ea.jpg?tl=1&ve=1)

Damaged homes are seen in the aftermath of Hurricane Ian, Thursday, Sept. 29, 2022, in Fort Myers Beach, Fla. (AP Photo/Wilfredo Lee)

Speaking to reporters in an afternoon update from the Charlotte County Emergency Operations Center, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said Thursday that he had seen a number of efforts to bring people to safety, particularly in Lee County, Collier County, Charlotte and Naples.

"This is going to be a 24/7 operation, because we realize how important it is," he noted.

DeSantis said that more than $2 million had been raised to support storm recovery efforts in less than 24 hours, noting that "this is just the beginning."

"There's a lot more that's going to need to be done," the governor added.

DeSantis said he had been able to meet some of the more than 42,000 linemen in Lake City, Florida, and that Florida Power & Light Company had the biggest footprint.

FPL President Eric Silagy said that 20,000 men and women were working to restore power and that 700,000 customers had seen power restored after the hurricane.

Not one transmission tower was lost.

"We are now in the process of getting the distribution system back up and the substations that had flying debris go into them cleared out so we can get them back online," he said.

Silagy explained that sections that will require rebuilding in the barrier islands.

"And so, this is a 24/7 effort to stabilize and to restore. And so, we're going to do whatever we can to assist with that effort," DeSantis stated.

The governor told members of the media that Sanibel Island in particular "is destruction" and had gotten hit with really "biblical storm surge."

Roads and structures were washed away there and he called images of Sanibel "really difficult images to see."

The governor said that while the state wants to get back to some sense of normalcy as quickly as possible, but they realized it would be harder in some areas than others.

"But ... let's work on Sanibel and let's bring it back to where it was as soon as we can."
Posted by Julia Musto
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 29, 2022, 06:58:06 pm
https://twitter.com/FlyTPA/status/1575510769210359809
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 29, 2022, 07:00:39 pm
https://twitter.com/MesoMax919/status/1575511789386833923
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 29, 2022, 07:04:41 pm
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1575536697558945797
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on September 29, 2022, 07:14:21 pm
Finally got through to my parents in Fort Myers Beach. It's completely destroyed, but their building is still standing.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 29, 2022, 07:14:34 pm
https://twitter.com/Sean_Breslin/status/1575531689757102081
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 29, 2022, 07:16:25 pm
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1575547880894771200
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 29, 2022, 07:19:42 pm
I just got a rext from @libertybele!  She's OK!

Quote
Hope you get this...cell phone service is poor. Just letting you know we made it through the hurricane.  We sheltered in home.  No flooding! 😊 I will post when internet is up and running.  Please share with others.  Everyone thank you for all the prayers, I have no doubt that prayers were answered.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 29, 2022, 07:21:22 pm
I just got a rext from @libertybele!  She's OK!

Great News!!!!
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Gefn on September 29, 2022, 09:06:06 pm
I just got a rext from @libertybele!  She's OK!

Thank you
For posting .

Good news!
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Hoodat on September 29, 2022, 09:18:08 pm
Benny Johnson
@bennyjohnson
Screenshotted for when this is deleted.

More screenshots:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd19V-jUAAIyOZ6?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: corbe on September 29, 2022, 09:30:17 pm
   Thank you for posting that update about @libertybele @Cyber Liberty
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Texas Yellow Rose on September 29, 2022, 09:38:49 pm
Great News!!!!
:yowsa:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Gefn on September 29, 2022, 09:41:26 pm
Ian strengthens to hurricane again after pummeling Florida, now headed for Carolinas, Georgia


Quote


Ian strengthened to a Category 1 hurricane Thursday afternoon. It is now moving across Florida, headed toward Georgia and the Carolinas where it is expected to make landfall Friday. More than 2.6 million people are without power. Fox News is updating with the latest news surrounding the storm, its impact, travel and emergency updates.



https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/hurricane-ian-tracker-2022-news-path-weather-09-29-2022
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: DCPatriot on September 29, 2022, 09:42:21 pm
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/09/29/17/62935629-11261707-image-a-58_1664469132048.jpg)

This should NOT present much of a problem for the 'stranded' people on the island...per the photo.

Back in 1980, I sold a home owned by a man who was a government contractor...he 'invented' and/or manufactured

"Emergency Bridges", which could straddle a space that size/length with ease. He said they actually used them in Viet Nam.

Today, the fan blades on those ridiculous windmill farms are transported by trucks...and the partially assembled bridge/causeway  are much shorter in length.   
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Wingnut on September 29, 2022, 09:45:41 pm
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/09/29/17/62935629-11261707-image-a-58_1664469132048.jpg)

This should NOT present much of a problem for the 'stranded' people on the island...per the photo.

Back in 1980, I sold a home owned by a man who was a government contractor...he 'invented' and/or manufactured

"Emergency Bridges", which could straddle a space that size/length with ease. He said they actually used them in Viet Nam.

Today, the fan blades on those ridiculous windmill farms are transported by trucks...and the partially assembled bridge/causeway  are much shorter in length.
That is a great picture.  Been over that Bridge many times.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: rustynail on September 29, 2022, 09:59:24 pm
There will need to be environmental and racial impact studies done before Anything is done to that bridge.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Bigun on September 29, 2022, 10:01:39 pm
I just got a rext from @libertybele!  She's OK!

Hallelujah!!!  Thank God!
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: DCPatriot on September 29, 2022, 10:10:06 pm
That is a great picture.  Been over that Bridge many times.

@Right_in_Virginia  posted it above...I should have resized it.   :bolt:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 29, 2022, 10:47:05 pm
 Biden says political disagreements with DeSantis ‘irrelevant,’ plans to visit Florida
by Alex Gangitano - 09/29/22 1:41 PM ET

President Biden on Thursday said that his political disagreements with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) are irrelevant during the Hurricane Ian response efforts, adding that he plans to visit the state when he can.

“It’s totally irrelevant, but I’ll answer it,” he said when asked about his relationship with DeSantis. “He complimented me, he thanked me for the immediate response we had, he told me how much he appreciated it.”

“This is not about anything having to do with our disagreements politically, this is about saving people’s lives, homes and businesses. That’s what this is about,” Biden added in remarks at the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s headquarters.

The president said the timing of his visit to Florida will depend on when he can go without getting in the way of recovery efforts.

“Everyone hard at work in Florida right now deserves our thanks. When the conditions allow it, I’m going to be going to Florida to thank them personally, so we don’t get in the way,” Biden said.

The president said he and DeSantis have spoken four or five times in the lead up to and since the storm hit.

“And it’s not a matter of my disagreements with him on other items,” he said.

Hurricane Ian made landfall as a Category 4 storm Wednesday afternoon and brought rain, intense winds, floods and power outages. It is expected to make its way to Georgia, South Carolina and North Carolina later this week.

The president also said on Thursday that he will visit Puerto Rico, which was hit by Hurricane Fiona earlier this month, and that he is committed to recovery efforts for the island.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/3667281-biden-says-political-disagreements-with-desantis-irrelevant-plans-to-visit-florida/
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Wingnut on September 29, 2022, 10:50:34 pm
Joe would be wise to stay out of FL.  The FJB chants will be deafening.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 29, 2022, 10:54:55 pm
@Right_in_Virginia  posted it above...I should have resized it.   :bolt:

 :beer:  @DCPatriot
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 29, 2022, 10:58:25 pm
Very happy to hear you're okay @libertybele   :bighug:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on September 29, 2022, 11:35:03 pm
I just got a rext from @libertybele!  She's OK!

@libertybele
@Cyber Liberty

Hallelujah! Such a relief!
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Texas Robin on September 30, 2022, 01:28:45 am
I always get a kick out of photos like this.  Notice that there isn't a single note or piece of paper on the entire desk other than the one he is holding a pen to.  And notice the paper coffee cup with the plastic lid, as if the President doesn't have special ceramic cups with the Presidential seal of them.  And then finally, does anyone actually expect me to believe that Joe Biden is capable of talking on the phone with one hand and writing at the same time with the other?
:mauslaff: :bigsilly:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on September 30, 2022, 05:23:46 am
That brings back memories of what the Bolivar Peninsula here in Texas looked like after hurricane Ike which was only a Cat II storm.

(https://www.weather.gov/images/hgx/projects/ike08/images/bolivar/bolivar44(IMG_9174).JPG)

@Bigun

That's the year when I stopped being that concerned with what category a storm was. I drove down to Galveston several days after the storm and I was absolutely not prepared for what I saw. Being born and raised here on the Texas Gulf Coast, I have great familiarity with the impact of a hurricane, but Ike threw me for a loop -- especially in that it was "only" a Cat 2. After that, Harvey blew me away with the stunning amount of rain we got.

https://www.weather.gov/lch/2017harvey

You may remember this story. Dickinson got an astonishing 55" of rain.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4828488/Texas-nursing-home-residents-rescued-flooded-facility.html

I left during Ike and went to the Cypress area. It was in worse shape than my home on the coast. I stayed put in Harvey (local EM wasn't encouraging evacuation). It wasn't fun (I hate those lousy nighttime storms!), but the pocket where my house is seems to do fairly well when others sustain much more damage. Roofs and fences are all I've lost. No trees. No flooding. In earlier years, got hit bad by Carla (flooded) and by Alicia (tornado took roof off). All in all, I feel I've been rather fortunate over the years.

BTW, I remember seeing some of those people from Bolivar interviewed. They said they wished they'd left and said they'd NEVER stay through another one!   
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Kamaji on September 30, 2022, 11:42:22 am
More screenshots:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd19V-jUAAIyOZ6?format=jpg&name=large)

Liberals are such disgusting excuses for human beings.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: DCPatriot on September 30, 2022, 12:14:59 pm
One thing I haven't heard mentioned anywhere...

The chances of Florida remaining a "Red State" have been greatly compromised, with the destruction from IAN.

Too many homes/residences are wiped clean, with just a slab under a foot of mud/sand...no infrastructure, etc..

Mail-in ballots equals fraudulent votes.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Gefn on September 30, 2022, 12:48:43 pm
Hurricane Ian bearing down on South Carolina

Quote


Here's the latest on the timing and track of storm, which continued strengthening overnight and was barreling toward a South Carolina landfall on Friday.



https://www.accuweather.com/en/hurricane/hurricane-ian-bearing-down-on-south-carolina/1255364

Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 30, 2022, 01:02:51 pm
One thing I haven't heard mentioned anywhere...

The chances of Florida remaining a "Red State" have been greatly compromised, with the destruction from IAN.

Too many homes/residences are wiped clean, with just a slab under a foot of mud/sand...no infrastructure, etc..

Mail-in ballots equals fraudulent votes.

Good observation, and DeSantis would be the ultimate libtard trophy.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 30, 2022, 01:08:18 pm
Florida Officials Institute Curfew amid Looting in Aftermath of Hurricane Ian

Officials from Florida’s Lee County announced a curfew on Wednesday following reports of looting and other criminal activity in the aftermath of Hurricane Ian.
Jordan Dixon-Hamilton29 Sep 2022, 8:14 PM PDT

Hurricane Ian made landfall in Lee County on Wednesday with maximum sustained winds of 155 miles per hour, resulting in as much as $40 billion in property damage.

With local officials dedicating all their time and resources to the hurricane’s response, criminals took advantage and began looting and committing other crimes, Lee County officials announced.

For example, one gas station in Florida was reportedly looted.

“Earlier today, when law enforcement was unable to respond because of weather conditions, it was unsafe, there was a break-in on Cleveland Avenue and there was looting,” Lee County Manager Roger DesJarlais announced during a press conference.

DesJarlais noted that “a group of people” looted “one of the Speedway gas stations,” which prompted Fort Meyers city officials to talk to Lee County officials about instituting a curfew.

“To be sure, and I feel safe relaying this in on behalf of law enforcement, there’s going to be a zero-tolerance policy for looting and violence in this town,” DesJarlais added.

Lee County Sheriff Carmine Marceno condemned the criminals in a separate press conference on Wednesday.

Marceno said:

    I know we had a report of one incident where someone tried to loot into a gas station. I don’t know the details but it’s infuriating and we’re not gonna allow it. We are a great law and order state. We need to access the people that need to be helped, their life and safety is most important. But my message is very clear to those who think they’re gonna loot. Go somewhere else, leave the state, don’t do that in here, not in Lee County.

However, Ian was downgraded to a tropical storm since making landfall on Wednesday, but Florida officials warned that dangerous conditions remain.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/09/29/florida-officials-institute-curfew-looting-aftermath-hurricane-ian/
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 30, 2022, 01:09:21 pm
 *****rollingeyes*****

Snap Study: ‘Climate Change’ Added 10% to Ian’s Rainfall

“Climate change”  boosted rainfall attributed to Hurricane Ian by at least 10 percent,  a small study based on computer modelling and laboratory scenarios claims.
Simon Kent30 Sep 2022, 3:51 AM PDT

more
https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2022/09/30/snap-study-climate-change-added-10-to-ians-rainfall/
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 30, 2022, 01:16:02 pm
Hurricane Ian: Carolinas brace for oncoming storm

South Carolina was already feeling impacts from the outer rain bands of Hurricane Ian on Friday morning.

Fox Weather reported, citing Colorado State University tropical scientist Phil Klotzbach, that Hurricane Matthew in 2016 was the last hurricane to make landfall in the state.

The Category 1 storm was expected to make landfall there in the afternoon, with hurricane-force winds expected across the coast of South Carolina and southeastern North Carolina.

There is a danger of life-threatening storm surge from Ian through Friday along the coasts of northeastern Florida, Georgia and South Carolina.

A storm surge of between four to seven feet is expected along the South Carolina coast.

Storm surge watches and warnings have been issued from Florida and up to the North Carolina coast.

The National Weather Service in Charleston said that a wind gust to 66 miles per hour was recently measured along the southern end of Folly Beach.

The Charleston Police Department said that roads were closed and that it is "experiencing flooding in many of our usual locations."

The Isle of Palms Police Department tweeted that it was seeing standing water along multiple roads, as well as debris.

A flash flood warning was issued in Charleston and Mount Pleasant.

National Guard troops are being positioned to help with the aftermath, including any water rescues, and highway crews will be ready to clear roads.

On Thursday afternoon, a steady stream of vehicles were heading out of Charleston on Interstate 26 with just a few heading into the city.

Gov. Henry McMaster issued no evacuations, but he said that doesn’t mean the storm isn’t dangerous.

“We know we can handle this if we use our heads and follow the rules,” he said.

North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper urged residents to prepare for lots of rain, high winds and potential power outages.

“For North Carolinians, I want to be clear: This storm can still be dangerous and even deadly,” he said.

State Emergency Management Director Will Ray said widespread power losses and evacuations weren’t anticipated at the time.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Posted by Julia Musto
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 30, 2022, 01:16:11 pm
https://twitter.com/NWSCharlestonSC/status/1575707785127305216
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 30, 2022, 01:18:44 pm
One thing I haven't heard mentioned anywhere...

The chances of Florida remaining a "Red State" have been greatly compromised, with the destruction from IAN.

Too many homes/residences are wiped clean, with just a slab under a foot of mud/sand...no infrastructure, etc..

Mail-in ballots equals fraudulent votes.

I have been worried about this too....I am waiting to hear that the election should be postponed 888mouth

As you said this is a great opportunity for voter fraud :crying:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 30, 2022, 01:34:07 pm
https://rumble.com/embed/v1jggak/?pub=4
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Bigun on September 30, 2022, 01:44:02 pm
@Bigun

That's the year when I stopped being that concerned with what category a storm was. I drove down to Galveston several days after the storm and I was absolutely not prepared for what I saw. Being born and raised here on the Texas Gulf Coast, I have great familiarity with the impact of a hurricane, but Ike threw me for a loop -- especially in that it was "only" a Cat 2. After that, Harvey blew me away with the stunning amount of rain we got.

https://www.weather.gov/lch/2017harvey

You may remember this story. Dickinson got an astonishing 55" of rain.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4828488/Texas-nursing-home-residents-rescued-flooded-facility.html

I left during Ike and went to the Cypress area. It was in worse shape than my home on the coast. I stayed put in Harvey (local EM wasn't encouraging evacuation). It wasn't fun (I hate those lousy nighttime storms!), but the pocket where my house is seems to do fairly well when others sustain much more damage. Roofs and fences are all I've lost. No trees. No flooding. In earlier years, got hit bad by Carla (flooded) and by Alicia (tornado took roof off). All in all, I feel I've been rather fortunate over the years.

BTW, I remember seeing some of those people from Bolivar interviewed. They said they wished they'd left and said they'd NEVER stay through another one!   

@AllThatJazzZ hurricane Ike caused the National Weather Service to change the way hurricanes are classified. Formerly they were classified based on max sustained wind speeds alone. Now they add in the overall size (area covered by the Windfield) in the calculation.  Ike's max sustained winds were only something like 100 MPH but the SIZE of the Windfield was HUGE (Hundreds of miles across) and THAT was what did the damage.  (A windfield that size is going to create a HUGE tidal surge on a very broad front.)

I live not far from Huntsville and got 56" of rain out of Harvey. No damage of any kind because the elevation here is about 375' ASL. Houston and points south simply cannot deal with that much water in a short period of time.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: DCPatriot on September 30, 2022, 01:50:30 pm
IIRC, it was "AGNES" that was the 'Big One' during my lifetime.

To see the muddy water levels on the buildings/lamp posts along the Susquehanna River in Pennsylvania near Harrisburg...just unbelievable, the power of water.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Bigun on September 30, 2022, 01:56:07 pm
IIRC, it was "AGNES" that was the 'Big One' during my lifetime.

To see the muddy water levels on the buildings/lamp posts along the Susquehanna River in Pennsylvania near Harrisburg...just unbelievable, the power of water.

If another storm like Carla ever takes the same path that one did some insurance companies will be going bankrupt.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 30, 2022, 02:12:05 pm
One thing I haven't heard mentioned anywhere...

The chances of Florida remaining a "Red State" have been greatly compromised, with the destruction from IAN.

Too many homes/residences are wiped clean, with just a slab under a foot of mud/sand...no infrastructure, etc..

Mail-in ballots equals fraudulent votes.

Florida allows in-person voting and mail-in absentee voting by request, only @DCPatriot   @mystery-ak



Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Wingnut on September 30, 2022, 02:48:10 pm
*****rollingeyes*****

Snap Study: ‘Climate Change’ Added 10% to Ian’s Rainfall

“Climate change”  boosted rainfall attributed to Hurricane Ian by at least 10 percent,  a small study based on computer modelling and laboratory scenarios claims.
Simon Kent30 Sep 2022, 3:51 AM PDT

more
https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2022/09/30/snap-study-climate-change-added-10-to-ians-rainfall/

Follow the science they say even if it is a lie. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on September 30, 2022, 02:54:59 pm
One thing I haven't heard mentioned anywhere...

The chances of Florida remaining a "Red State" have been greatly compromised, with the destruction from IAN.

Too many homes/residences are wiped clean, with just a slab under a foot of mud/sand...no infrastructure, etc..

Mail-in ballots equals fraudulent votes.

I'm skeptical it makes a difference.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Gefn on September 30, 2022, 04:34:45 pm
IIRC, it was "AGNES" that was the 'Big One' during my lifetime.

To see the muddy water levels on the buildings/lamp posts along the Susquehanna River in Pennsylvania near Harrisburg...just unbelievable, the power of water.

Sandy would have been the worst, but Irene had such bad wind it blew in water into my apartment and flooded out the kitchen.

My poor kitty’s food bowls looked like life rafts floating in the water. She was not amused
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: DCPatriot on September 30, 2022, 04:54:25 pm
Florida allows in-person voting and mail-in absentee voting by request, only @DCPatriot   @mystery-ak

@Right_in_Virginia

Thanks for that information!   

Of course, we realize that somebody who has lost their home...mementos and only have the clothes on their back,
their cash and their credit cards...they're certainly NOT thinking of the November election.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: 240B on September 30, 2022, 05:06:00 pm
(https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a04PvjB_460s.jpg)
An often overlooked hazard in Southern Coastal flooding (Louisiana/Florida), is what comes ashore along with the water. There are a lot of nasty snakes, snapping turtles, and other critters which wind up in your living room.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on September 30, 2022, 05:13:45 pm
(https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a04PvjB_460s.jpg)

Needs context.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: rustynail on September 30, 2022, 05:30:57 pm
It really pulls the room together.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mountaineer on September 30, 2022, 06:12:03 pm
It really pulls the room together.
I've heard of a bearskin rug, but alligator? Ewww.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Wingnut on September 30, 2022, 06:13:04 pm
Boots and belts and some gator tail gumbo!
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Gefn on September 30, 2022, 07:16:16 pm
Boots and belts and some gator tail gumbo!

Never had gator gumbo but I’ve had Gatorade!  22222frying pan ****slapping :silly:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 30, 2022, 07:27:31 pm
September 30, 2022 1:18pm EDT
Sanibel, Florida mayor says town decimated by Hurricane Ian: 'The perfect storm we hoped we'd never see'
Mayor Holly Smith said it will be long-term recovery effort as area is cut off from mainland due to damaged causeway
By Amy Nelson | Fox News

Sanibel, Florida Mayor Holly Smith said Hurricane Ian turned into the perfect storm she hoped she would never see in her lifetime. Now, her community is trying to recover from the unprecedented situation without direct access to mainland Florida.

Hurricane Ian collapsed part of the Sanibel Causeway, which connects the island to the mainland.

"We’re cut off," she said by phone on "America’s Newsroom" Friday.

Smith told Bill Hemmer and Dana Perino that the biggest priority is search and rescue. She said first responders started doing wellness checks early Thursday morning after the worst of the storm passed. 

"We did everything that we could to prepare. Everything we could to get the word out to please evacuate," she said.

She said an estimated 200 households remained on Sanibel Island during Hurricane Ian, but that number is growing as officials hear from more people who need assistance.

"We don’t know the number of people and pets that were in those residences. We’re getting that information as it comes through," she said.

more
https://www.foxnews.com/media/sanibel-mayor-speaks-hurricane-ian-decimates-florida-perfect-storm-hoped-never-see
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 30, 2022, 07:28:12 pm
https://twitter.com/NWSCharlestonSC/status/1575914293672824834
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mountaineer on September 30, 2022, 07:38:38 pm
We're supposed to go to Sea Island, GA, in three weeks, so I'm trying to find out whether it was greatly affected.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: corbe on September 30, 2022, 07:43:23 pm
    @libertybele

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Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 30, 2022, 08:00:48 pm
(https://radar.weather.gov/ridge/standard/SOUTHEAST_loop.gif)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 30, 2022, 08:13:55 pm
I think I was about 4, but remember be carried by parents though standing water and wind.  (Carla).  Too young at the time, to really understand though.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 30, 2022, 08:15:46 pm
(https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a04PvjB_460s.jpg)
An often overlooked hazard in Southern Coastal flooding (Louisiana/Florida), is what comes ashore along with the water. There are a lot of nasty snakes, snapping turtles, and other critters which wind up in your living room.

Honestly, and going through this so many times, the biggest critter hazard and hassle are fire ants.  Everyone's legs and ankles look like measles after doing outside hurricane cleanup.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: corbe on September 30, 2022, 08:38:24 pm
Honestly, and going through this so many times, the biggest critter hazard and hassle are fire ants.  Everyone's legs and ankles look like measles after doing outside hurricane cleanup.

   I witnessed that firsthand @catfish1957 got caught downstream of a Landscape business in Hobby Airport area Alicia/ 83.

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Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Kamaji on September 30, 2022, 09:25:07 pm
*****rollingeyes*****

Snap Study: ‘Climate Change’ Added 10% to Ian’s Rainfall

“Climate change”  boosted rainfall attributed to Hurricane Ian by at least 10 percent,  a small study based on computer modelling and laboratory scenarios claims.
Simon Kent30 Sep 2022, 3:51 AM PDT

more
https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2022/09/30/snap-study-climate-change-added-10-to-ians-rainfall/

:mauslaff:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: rustynail on September 30, 2022, 09:58:02 pm
https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1575945239872737282
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mountaineer on September 30, 2022, 10:12:25 pm
Ian Miles Cheong
@stillgray
Poor white families in Florida which had their houses flooded will not be getting any federal funds.
5:37 PM · Sep 30, 2022


Apparently. Thankfully, the hurricane didn't affect any white people, on account of their privilege.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Gefn on September 30, 2022, 10:16:34 pm
People are looking to Waffle House as Hurricane Ian makes landfall again—here’s why


Quote


As Hurricane Ian barrels into South Carolina after leaving behind a trail of destruction in Florida, people are keeping a close eye on something that might surprise you: Waffle House.

The well-known restaurant chain currently has 10 locations closed in the hardest hit areas of Florida, a number that will “fluctuate rapidly” as staff works to re-open and aid community members, Waffle House spokesperson Njeri Boss tells CNBC Make It.

Such closures are incredibly rare for the Norcross, Georgia-based chain, which has roughly 2,000 locations spread mostly across the southeast U.S. And they mean more than just a community being waffle-less: A local Waffle House’s status actually serves as unofficial shorthand for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to track the severity of a weather disaster, and how much damage it’s done to an area.

It’s known as the “Waffle House Index,” created by former FEMA administrator Craig Fugate after he and his colleagues discovered the last places that stayed open during Hurricane Charley in 2004 were Waffle House locations.




https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/30/fema-waffle-house-index-hurricane-ian-makes-landfall-again.html


🧇🧇🧇
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on September 30, 2022, 10:17:50 pm
/twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1575945239872737282

Did she actually admit that dispersion of government disaster relief money will be based on race?

Can this bitch be administered a congressional censure?
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mountaineer on September 30, 2022, 10:31:03 pm
Sep 30, 2022
Florida looters arrested after scouring Fort Myers for valuables in Hurricane Ian aftermath
Lee County Sheriff Carmine Marceno said, "For any of those individuals that think they are going to go out there and loot or prey on people during this horrific event — you better think twice. When I say zero tolerance, zero tolerance means we will hunt you down, track you down, and you’re going to jail. If you’re lucky."
Joshua Young
Post-Millennial (https://thepostmillennial.com/florida-looters-arrested-after-scouring-fort-myers-for-valuables-in-hurricane-ian-aftermath)

In the wake of Hurricane Ian's devastation in Florida, looters have been arrested in Fort Myers after they went scouring for goods on Thursday. 

The New York Post reports that local Florida police apprehended the looters....
Quote
Gage Goulding - NBC2
@GageGoulding
Sheriff’s deputies told me Thursday afternoon these people were arrested for looting on Fort Myers Beach.
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11:02 AM · Sep 30, 2022
 from Fort Myers Beach, FL


Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: rustynail on September 30, 2022, 10:52:38 pm
Did she actually admit that dispersion of government disaster relief money will be based on race?

Can this bitch be administered a congressional censure?
Hard to believe.  Hope there is serious blowback.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: DCPatriot on September 30, 2022, 11:14:30 pm
Hard to believe.  Hope there is serious blowback.

This is the same imbecile who says we have a strong alliance with North Korea just the other day. 

Besides a waist-high flame...you know what REALLY burns my @ss?

The fact that Barack Obama and his gang are literally laughing in tears...seeing their strategy play out.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: 240B on September 30, 2022, 11:17:46 pm
She is trying to say that Blacks were hurt more by the hurricane than Whites. Therefore Blacks deserve priority and more money than Whites. Somebody needs to scream in her face with a bullhorn, YOU ARE NOT BLACK! YOU ARE A HINDU INDIAN!!

Kamala grew up with more "White Privilege" and incarcerated more Black people than 95% of White people in America.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on September 30, 2022, 11:27:59 pm
https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1575888676537638916
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Idiot on September 30, 2022, 11:55:08 pm
https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1575945239872737282
I can't believe she actually said that.  If you are white you are screwed....unreal.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: cato potatoe on October 01, 2022, 12:10:05 am
"Equity" is a euphemism for 21st century communism.  The real estate closest to sea level in SW Florida is typically middle class to wealthy, and overwhelmingly white.  It doesn't matter --- they were wiped out --- and they need the lion's share of any public funds devoted to relief. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: cato potatoe on October 01, 2022, 12:13:44 am
Ian has brought howling winds, torrential rain, and power outages to central NC this evening.  This round of land interaction is the death blow to Ian ... and good riddance to this POS. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: EdinVA on October 01, 2022, 12:36:08 am
I can't believe she actually said that.  If you are white you are screwed....unreal.

Doesn't that make you feel unified?
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 01, 2022, 12:36:15 am
"WATCH THIS:   A man was buried under #HurricaneIan rubble at Fort Myers Beach. People pulled him out of the debris near The Whale restaurant on FMB.  He's alive. I'm amazed.' (Video)

https://twitter.com/ABC7Jeff/status/1575677595802165249
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 01, 2022, 12:43:36 am
I can't believe she actually said that.  If you are white you are screwed....unreal.

Quote
Christina Pushaw 🐊
@ChristinaPushaw
·37m

This is false.  @VP’s rhetoric is causing undue panic and must be clarified. FEMA Individual Assistance is already available to all Floridians impacted by Hurricane Ian, regardless of race or background. If you need assistance visit http://disasterassistance.gov or call 1-800-621-3362.

Quote
End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
·2h

Kamala on Hurricane Ian relief:

The Biden administration will focus on “giving resources based on equity” by directing funds to “communities of color”

Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Hoodat on October 01, 2022, 01:04:13 am
IIRC, it was "AGNES" that was the 'Big One' during my lifetime.

Yep.  Remember it well.  Bad flooding in the Shenandoah Valley.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Wingnut on October 01, 2022, 01:07:04 am
I can't believe she actually said that.  If you are white you are screwed....unreal.
Once a cock sucker always a cock sucker.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 01, 2022, 01:11:47 am
 September 30, 2022 7:13pm EDT
Florida Gov. DeSantis warns those taking advantage of hurricane victims: 'We are a law and order state'
A Florida sheriff said that there will be 'swift incarceration immediately with no tolerance'

By Adam Sabes | Fox News

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis issued a stern warning to those trying to take advantage of the victims of Hurricane Ian.

DeSantis made the comments Friday during a news conference in Fort Myers, Florida. He said that while visiting nearby Punta Gorda, he saw a boarded-up business with a sign that read, "You loot, we shoot."

"We are a law and order state, and this is a law and order community," DeSantis said. "So do not think that you're going to take advantage of people who've suffered misery."

"Don't even think about looting," he said during another press conference later in the day.

DeSantis added that people looking to "ransack people's homes" should beware: Florida is a Second Amendment state.

"I can tell you in the state of Florida, you never know what may be lurking behind somebody's home," he said. "And I would not want to chance that if I were you — given that we're a Second Amendment state."

Ian made landfall in Florida on Wednesday, and nearly 2 million people remained without power as of Friday afternoon.

The hurricane made landfall as a powerful Category 4 storm, with maximum sustained winds reaching 155 mph.

Lee County Sheriff Carmine Marceno also said that he "will not tolerate" anyone trying to take advantage of people suffering as a result of the storm's damage.

more
https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-gov-desantis-warns-those-taking-advantage-hurricane-victims-law-order-state

   
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: 240B on October 01, 2022, 01:48:20 am
Hurricanes are 'racist', and target "people of color" much more than White people! - Kamala Harris
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Wingnut on October 01, 2022, 02:15:59 am
Florida is a we will shoot you dead state.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: DCPatriot on October 01, 2022, 02:31:49 am
Florida is a we will shoot you dead state.


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd6uZm5XwAEMLUU?format=jpg&name=small)


Sure looks like just a bunch of bored stupid kids...one a girl.

Would be very difficult in this day and age in America to see them lined up against a wall and summarily executed.

Difficult, but probably necessary.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 01, 2022, 06:40:31 am
IIRC, it was "AGNES" that was the 'Big One' during my lifetime.

To see the muddy water levels on the buildings/lamp posts along the Susquehanna River in Pennsylvania near Harrisburg...just unbelievable, the power of water.
I recall Agnes, from the perspective of one who lived in the So. MD tidewater. We were fine about 20' ASL, but I remember hauling a 14' Jon boat up the hill, inverted, holding on to the handles on the stern and the wind supported the boat. All I had to do was keep it level and walk, then dump the wind when I got where I wanted to put it.

Low lying areas were flooded out by the storm surge, and a guy I worked for (marine construction) later built a house in one of those areas, but the house was up on pilings to add about 15' ASL to the bottom of the joists, and the pilings were enclosed with plywood intended to break away should there be another storm. In good weather, that was the garage.
When a hurricane came, the vehicles were moved to higher ground and the storm would pound the panels loose, but the house rode it out with no problems.

A word about fire apparatus, too, since so many have commented on the pics of engines in about two feet of water: those, at least for rural departments in tidewater areas, are designed to still go just fine in up to 4 ft., depending on what the company called for when they ordered the engine built.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 01, 2022, 12:25:38 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd73mM0UAAET5-Z?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on October 01, 2022, 12:50:54 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd73mM0UAAET5-Z?format=jpg&name=small)

Documented Cat 5 hits of the Continental United States-

1.  1935 Labor Day Hurricane in Florida
2.  1969- Camille in Mississippi and Louisiana
3.  1992- Andrew in Florida

Hits since 1992-  ZERO

If our utterly idiotic MSM wants to spread their false Climate Change narratives, they need to stop with the Hurricane examples.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 01, 2022, 01:09:27 pm
https://twitter.com/SarasotaSheriff/status/1576173569314156544
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 01, 2022, 01:09:54 pm
The Sarasota County Sheriff's Office said that an Everbridge notification had been issued before 3 a.m. EDT indicating a possible levee break in the Hidden River community.

"The notification was issued countywide, which means all residents throughout Sarasota County who are registered with Everbridge likely received a warning," it said.

The leveee compromise appears to only impact homes on the east side of the community.

The compromise should not impact any other areas in Sarasota County, including Venice or North Port.

The office said it was working with county fire personnel to go door-to-door and advise residents of potential flooding.

"Residents are encouraged to consider evacuation," it added.
Posted by Julia Musto
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 01, 2022, 01:10:32 pm
https://twitter.com/MyFDOT/status/1576027730306650112
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Gefn on October 01, 2022, 01:26:02 pm
Florida personnel going door to door warning of possible levee break

Quote

he Sarasota County Sheriff's Office said that an Everbridge notification had been issued before 3 a.m. EDT indicating a possible levee break in the Hidden River community.

"The notification was issued countywide, which means all residents throughout Sarasota County who are registered with Everbridge likely received a warning," it said.

"Possible levee break in area of Hidden River/Myakka Valley with the potential of 15 feet of flood water...," the notification system warnings said, "...residents are urged to shelter in place if it is safe to do so as exit routes and roadways maybe impassable."

The leveee compromise appears to only impact homes on the east side of the community.





https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/hurricane-ian-tracker-news-path-weather-10-01-2022
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 01, 2022, 03:53:57 pm
Hurricane Ian death toll in Lee County, Florida hits 35, sheriff says

Dozens of people have been reported dead in the wake of now-Post-Tropical Cyclone Ian.

Search and rescue operations in Florida continued amid the wreckage, while South Carolina began to assess damage.

Lee County Sheriff Carmine Marceno announced in a Facebook video on Saturday that there were 35 fatalities in his county.

"It's with a heavy heart that I say that number," he said.

The Associated Press had previously reported that at least 30 people had been confirmed dead due to the storm, including 27 people in Florida.

Three others were killed when Ian hit Cuba, knocking out power for the entire island.

While most of those deaths were from drowning, others were reported from the storm’s tragic aftereffects.

Authorities warned that the death toll would likely rise much higher.

Hurricane Ian has likely caused “well over $100 billion” in damage, including $63 billion in privately insured losses, according to the disaster modeling firm Karen Clark & Co.

If those numbers are borne out, that would make Ian at least the fourth costliest hurricane in America's history.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Posted by Julia Musto
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 01, 2022, 03:54:24 pm
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1576218250320527360
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: 240B on October 01, 2022, 04:50:36 pm
(https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aREged7_460s.jpg)
Party until the glass breaks!
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 01, 2022, 10:17:02 pm
 October 1, 2022 4:31pm EDT
Joy Reid says DeSantis warning to looters in Ian’s aftermath is like racist threat from ‘segregationist’
DeSantis told looters, 'I would not want to chance that if I were you, given that we’re a Second Amendment state'
By Gabriel Hays | Fox News

    Taking to Twitter, MSNBC host Joy Reid bashed Gov. Ron DeSantis, R-Fla., for warning potential criminals against looting the evacuated homes of Hurricane Ian survivors in Florida, linking his statements to racist cops and politicians of the segregation era.

On Saturday, the host of MSNBC’s "The ReidOut" tweeted that DeSantis telling people not to loot and warning they might be shot by gun-carrying Floridians had the same tone as "segregationist Miami sheriff Walter E. Headley" infamously saying, "When the looting starts, the shooting starts" in the ’60s.

In addition, Reid’s tweet linked to an NPR article about the racist history, connecting it to vicious segregationists and anti-Black politicians such as Eugene "Bull" Conner. She mentioned how DeSantis’ words show he’s returned to that "form."         

more
https://www.foxnews.com/media/joy-reid-says-desantis-warning-looters-ians-aftermath-like-racist-threat-segregationist                                                                                     
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 01, 2022, 10:54:56 pm
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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis visited a Waffle House in Florida and served food to residents in the aftermath of Hurricane Ian. (@GovRonDeSantis/Twitter / Fox News)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 01, 2022, 10:55:13 pm
https://twitter.com/ChristinaPushaw/status/1575974738794774529
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Gefn on October 02, 2022, 01:56:26 am
(https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxbusiness.com/foxbusiness.com/content/uploads/2022/10/1862/1046/Untitled-design-124.png?ve=1&tl=1)
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis visited a Waffle House in Florida and served food to residents in the aftermath of Hurricane Ian. (@GovRonDeSantis/Twitter / Fox News)


Will this show up in the Waffle House index?
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Texas Yellow Rose on October 02, 2022, 02:08:08 am
"The ReidOut" tweeted that DeSantis telling people not to loot and warning they might be shot by gun-carrying Floridians had the same tone as "segregationist Miami sheriff Walter E. Headley" infamously saying, "When the looting starts, the shooting starts" in the ’60s.                                           

Either way .... You loot, we shoot! (https://i.postimg.cc/PNH2Fmsv/24ormfa.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PNH2Fmsv)

Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 02, 2022, 02:13:39 am
https://twitter.com/ElectionWiz/status/1576269083447730177
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 02, 2022, 02:16:21 am
https://twitter.com/fema/status/1576368942188314624
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 02, 2022, 02:18:00 am
https://twitter.com/USArmy/status/1575939698761109504
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 02, 2022, 02:19:40 am
Florida Medical Examiners Commission confirms 44 deaths, majority in Lee County

The number of confirmed fatalities from Hurricane Ian rose to at least 44, most of them in Lee County, Florida.

Florida District Medical Examiners report hurricane deaths to the Medical Examiners Commission (MEC) following an autopsy after confirming the death was storm-related.

Lee County bore the brunt of the Category 4 hurricane with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE) confirming at least 30 deaths.

In addition, FDLE reported three deaths in Collier County and one in Hendry County.

Sarasota County has three confirmed deaths, while Manatee County had one person die.

In Lake County, one person died and in Volusia County, five deaths were attributed to Hurricane Ian. Authorities have not released the causes of death.

The death toll is expected to climb as floodwaters recede and search teams are able to reach areas initially cut off by the storm.
Posted by Sarah Rumpf
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 02, 2022, 02:40:56 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fd8EoScXEAEdU5g?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mountaineer on October 02, 2022, 12:29:05 pm
Quote
Joy Reid says DeSantis warning to looters in Ian’s aftermath is like racist threat from ‘segregationist’
Basically, then, Joy Reid is confirming she's a racist who believes all looters are black?
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 02, 2022, 01:24:34 pm
DeSantis: Elon Musk positioning Starlink satellites to support FL in wake of Hurricane Ian devastation
October 2, 2022 | Kevin Haggerty

Billionaire Elon Musk once again put his money where his mouth is after chiding Vice President Kamala Harris for her politicization of hurricane relief by stepping up in a big way for the people of Florida.

Hundreds of thousands were without power following the devastation wrought by Hurricane Ian throughout Southwest Florida and as a result, many remained incapable of obtaining vital information for lack of internet access. As a result, Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) announced Saturday that the state is working with Musk and his company SpaceX to alleviate that problem as another measure to aid residents in need.

“They’re positioning the Starlink satellites to provide good coverage in Southwest Florida and other effected areas,” Desantis said during a press conference, where he explained the satellite communications company would be taking on some of the financial burden as well.

more
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2022/10/02/desantis-elon-musk-positioning-starlink-satellites-to-support-fl-in-wake-of-hurricane-ian-devastation-1291396/
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 02, 2022, 01:28:16 pm
My parents are trying to get off of Estero Island, hope to get off on Monday.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: 240B on October 02, 2022, 01:33:02 pm
(https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a6qdQ6b_460s.jpg)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Cyber Liberty on October 02, 2022, 03:54:31 pm
My parents are trying to get off of Estero Island, hope to get off on Monday.

I'm glad they got word out to you, and a some  :0001: :0001: won't hurt either.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on October 02, 2022, 04:38:33 pm
I haven't heard anything from my father in Venice, FL (Sarasota County).  I'm hoping he went north and stayed with his brother in Crystal River.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 02, 2022, 05:04:54 pm
I'm glad they got word out to you, and a some  :0001: :0001: won't hurt either.

Ty
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: jmyrlefuller on October 02, 2022, 10:01:51 pm
(https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a6qdQ6b_460s.jpg)
  *****rollingeyes*****

For those who are unfamiliar, this photograph has been shared on social media claiming to be the aftermath of every hurricane and flood for the past 10 years.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: 240B on October 03, 2022, 12:21:46 pm
(https://s.w-x.co/util/image/w/ap22272596356596.jpg?crop=16:9&width=980&format=pjpg&auto=webp&quality=60)

Scale Of Damage Left Behind By Ian
https://weather.com/photos/news/2022-09-29-hurricane-ian-aerial-images
44 images
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 03, 2022, 01:32:17 pm
 October 3, 2022 6:00am EDT
DeSantis pushes back on CNN reporter's question about late Lee County evacuation order: 'Where were you?'
DeSantis tells Nadia Romero media was stationed in Tampa before Hurricane Ian's track shifted south
By Lindsay Kornick | Fox News

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis criticized CNN after being questioned on Lee County not having a mandatory evacuation for Hurricane Ian until the day before the storm hit.

CNN correspondent Nadia Romero spoke with the Republican governor on Sunday in Acadia, near some of the most affected areas in southwest Florida. Since Hurricane Ian made landfall in the state on Wednesday, media reports have criticized Lee County’s decision to not issue a mandatory evacuation order until Tuesday.

Romero took this question to DeSantis directly asking, "Why do you stand behind Lee County’s decision to not have that mandatory evacuation until the day before the storm?"

"Well, where was your industry stationed when the storm hit?" DeSantis replied. "Were you guys in Lee County? No, you were in Tampa."

DeSantis explained that many reports days prior to the storm did not show Lee County, which includes Cape Coral, Fort Myers and Sanibel Island, within the range of Hurricane Ian, leading many citizens to make their own decisions up to 48 hours before landfall. However, he reiterated that more attention was given to Tampa, likely leading people to hesitate on evacuating.

"But I think part of it was, so much attention was paid to Tampa, a lot of them thought they wouldn’t get the worst of it but they did, and I think it is easy to second-guess them. But they were ready for it the whole time and made that call when [it] was justifiable to do so," DeSantis said.

Romero continued to remark that neighboring counties to Lee County issued mandatory evacuation orders earlier.

more
https://www.foxnews.com/media/desantis-points-media-tampa-questioned-cnn-lee-countys-late-evacuation-order
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Texas Robin on October 03, 2022, 01:39:55 pm
(https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a6qdQ6b_460s.jpg)

free seafood 000hehehehe
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: 240B on October 03, 2022, 02:08:54 pm
  *****rollingeyes*****

For those who are unfamiliar, this photograph has been shared on social media claiming to be the aftermath of every hurricane and flood for the past 10 years.
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F9c%2F9d%2F02%2F9c9d026559b1f9ed359e0a42498b1b79--bill-murray-stripes-funny-pics.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=8d248db6a9c23ae43e458fad81c829ec30a4209d16f6a9be2faede2fc26bf843&ipo=images)
It has been a funny pic for 10 years, and it is still funny today.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: cato potatoe on October 03, 2022, 03:30:02 pm
The dems are going to claim not enough notice was given to people east of landfall.  Basically they want DeSantis to pick a fight with local officials during a rescue/recovery effort.  If there is a scandal, it is that the European model outperformed our government model, as it normally does.  One would expect our government to have the best grasp of atmospheric conditions on this side of the planet.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: LadyLiberty on October 03, 2022, 09:48:58 pm
http://twitter.com/dbongino/status/1576902514179420160
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 04, 2022, 01:34:07 am
National Guard troops head to islands cut off by Ian

One hundred troops head to islands in southwestern Florida. Around 50-100 National Guard members have been deployed in the Sunshine State.

On Monday, about 100 National Guard troops headed for barrier islands in Florida that were cut off by Hurricane Ian.

Ian made landfall on Wednesday as a Category 4 storm on the barrier island of Cayo Costa in southwest Florida.

FOX Weather correspondent Max Gorden reported from Southwest Florida International Airport on Monday, which was alive with activity with National Guard troops.

(https://images.foxweather.com/static.foxweather.com/www.foxweather.com/content/uploads/2022/10/1336/752/GettyImages-1429751008-copy.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)

National Guard troops were moving water and other supplies to those hardest hit by Ian in the barrier islands. Large Chinook helicopters could also be seen picking up Humvees and carrying them to those isolated barrier islands for that aid mission.

Thousands of people living on barrier islands were – and remain – cut off from mainland Florida after Hurricane Ian struck.

more
https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/national-guard-florida-barrier-islands-hurricane-ian
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 04, 2022, 06:20:06 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeKTQTwWQAEt_bs?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Cyber Liberty on October 04, 2022, 07:20:48 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeKTQTwWQAEt_bs?format=jpg&name=small)

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 04, 2022, 08:48:06 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeKTQTwWQAEt_bs?format=jpg&name=small)

 :amen:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 05, 2022, 07:04:25 pm
https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1577736045797511168
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 05, 2022, 07:05:06 pm
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1577736426590027782
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 05, 2022, 07:05:43 pm
https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1577736648711979009
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 05, 2022, 07:07:58 pm
In case you haven't noticed...no matter how many microphones are taped to the podium Brandon has to have a hand-held one close to his mouth...he just started this recently

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeU_IX0XwAs5XSG?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 05, 2022, 07:09:22 pm
https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1577737533273915402
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 05, 2022, 07:12:22 pm
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1577737913164603395
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 05, 2022, 07:14:40 pm
https://twitter.com/RealMacReport/status/1577734451014008834
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 05, 2022, 07:15:27 pm
https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1577738812612042753
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 05, 2022, 07:16:35 pm
https://twitter.com/KevinTober94/status/1577739191152263170
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: cato potatoe on October 05, 2022, 07:28:11 pm
Any of those four would be more qualified to stand behind the seal than the cryptkeeper. 

I thought Biden was supposed to put politics aside on this visit?  Yeah, we are going to surrender the debate on "climate change" to your dumb ass because a hurricane struck Florida.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 05, 2022, 08:18:42 pm
Any of those four would be more qualified to stand behind the seal than the cryptkeeper. 

I thought Biden was supposed to put politics aside on this visit?  Yeah, we are going to surrender the debate on "climate change" to your dumb ass because a hurricane struck Florida.

We also had to hear about the fire in his house when he was a boy....he always has to insert himself into the story...
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 05, 2022, 08:22:13 pm
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1577741032707571715
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: berdie on October 05, 2022, 08:31:21 pm
We also had to hear about the fire in his house when he was a boy....he always has to insert himself into the story...




It amazes me that he does this. Joey has had more happen in his life than Forrest Gump.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Kamaji on October 05, 2022, 08:57:59 pm
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1577736426590027782

Hell no.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on October 05, 2022, 09:10:03 pm
Hell no.

Yep...

FUJB,  you don't shit about climatology.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Idiot on October 05, 2022, 09:55:53 pm
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1577741032707571715
Guessing he hasn't been to mass in a while.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: rustynail on October 05, 2022, 11:28:11 pm
Biden says DeSantis is on board with 'global warming'

“First of all, the biggest thing the governor’s done and so many others have done is recognized this thing called global warming,” he said. “The world is changing.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/10/05/joe-biden-in-florida-biggest-thing-ron-desantis-did-during-hurricane-ian-was-recognize-global-warming/
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: 240B on October 05, 2022, 11:53:41 pm
https://twitter.com/RealMacReport/status/1577734451014008834 (https://twitter.com/RealMacReport/status/1577734451014008834)
He cannot help himself. He is a classic 'sex addict' or 'sexual compulsive', which is usually the result of sexual exposure as a child. Even though he is much too old to actually do anything sexual, he still has the compulsions from years ago. There is really no way to know how many women and young girls this man has extorted into sexual situations throughout his life.

But one thing, trust me, if that woman had been a Black woman ... Biden would not have gone anywhere near her. There certainly would be no 'sniff and kiss'. Biden tends to, or tries, to hit on every girl and woman that comes within 10ft of him, with one major demographic exception.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 06, 2022, 05:52:59 pm
Recovery Victory in DeSantis’s Florida: Temporary Pine Island Bridge Operational

The recovery efforts in southwest Florida are still underway as the state bounces back from the powerful Category 4 storm that smashed the coast last week. One the main highlights of the recovery efforts, thus far, is the construction of a temporary bridge connecting Pine Island to the mainland, which is now fully operational, providing access to countless residents, emergency responders, and linemen.

https://twitter.com/GovRonDeSantis/status/1577826075954085889

more
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/10/06/recovery-victory-desantis-florida-temporary-pine-island-bridge-operational/
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Polly Ticks on October 06, 2022, 06:29:01 pm
https://twitter.com/GovRonDeSantis/status/1577826075954085889

Holy cow, that's amazing.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 06, 2022, 07:04:34 pm
Recovery Victory in DeSantis’s Florida: Temporary Pine Island Bridge Operational

https://twitter.com/GovRonDeSantis/status/1577826075954085889

 :whistle:

The Associated Press
@AP

Following Hurricane Ian's destruction, many residents on Florida's Pine Island have stayed put for days without electricity and other resources while hoping the lone bridge to the mainland is repaired.

1:24 PM · Oct 6, 2022  Twitter Media Studio

Video:  https://mobile.twitter.com/AP/status/1578073600665571329
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: catfish1957 on October 06, 2022, 07:32:17 pm
Holy cow, that's amazing.

Leaders lead, while POS like Pedophile Joe make false claims that the Guv has bought off on the climate scam.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 07, 2022, 04:55:20 am
Leaders lead, while POS like Pedophile Joe make false claims that the Guv has bought off on the climate scam.
If the Gummint can stop climate change, why'd they let the hurricane hit Florida in the first place? :whistle:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: corbe on October 08, 2022, 03:11:46 am
(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fddddb616adfce97f3d9813feb38c2da9cf0e81943a736d493e25c7a56b55438.jpg)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 11, 2022, 10:28:17 pm
"Absolutely amazing to see emergency vehicles full of resources crossing the newly repaired #Sanibel Causeway today. Kudos to
@GovRonDeSantis, @KevinGuthrieFL, and @FDOT_Secretaryand everyone involved in making this a reality just weeks after Hurricane" (Video)

https://mobile.twitter.com/JimmyPatronis/status/1579892936745291776
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 11, 2022, 10:47:11 pm
"Absolutely amazing to see emergency vehicles full of resources crossing the newly repaired #Sanibel Causeway today. Kudos to
@GovRonDeSantis, @KevinGuthrieFL, and @FDOT_Secretaryand everyone involved in making this a reality just weeks after Hurricane" (Video)

https://mobile.twitter.com/JimmyPatronis/status/1579892936745291776

My sister will be heading there in a couple of weeks...their caretaker managed to get on the island and check the house out. The new floors are ruined and that seems to be the extent of the damage so far in the house...now the garage was bad..their vehicles had water in their cup holders and all their new appliances that were being stored in the garage are ruined also. They have their work cut out for them when they get there...not as bad as a lot of people.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Wingnut on October 12, 2022, 01:20:30 am
"Absolutely amazing to see emergency vehicles full of resources crossing the newly repaired #Sanibel Causeway today. Kudos to
@GovRonDeSantis, @KevinGuthrieFL, and @FDOT_Secretaryand everyone involved in making this a reality just weeks after Hurricane" (Video)

https://mobile.twitter.com/JimmyPatronis/status/1579892936745291776

1st Pine Island bride open in 3 days and Now the Causeway.   That wasn't supposed to be operational till the end of the month?    DeSantis will win by 20 points over Cuckie Crist.   QueTip Crist  had high hopes for this hurricane swamping DeSantis.   
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 12, 2022, 01:38:51 am
Florida’s Rapid Recovery: Sanibel Causeway Damaged by Hurricane Ian to Reopen

The Sanibel Causeway, which was damaged by Hurricane Ian, will reopen to civilians this month and is already opened to emergency vehicles, Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) announced on Tuesday.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/10/11/floridas-rapid-recovery-sanibel-causeway-damaged-by-hurricane-ian-to-reopen/
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: art.prout on October 14, 2022, 09:57:57 am
Thank you so much.  happy77

@libertybele

Hoping and praying that your recovery and "normalisation" efforts are going well.   As well as can be expected.  Please let us know how you and Mr. LB are faring.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: roamer_1 on October 14, 2022, 10:36:39 am
Please let us know how you and Mr. LB are farting.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Bet you didn't know you wrote that....
Because you didn't... But I read it!
I love my old eyes sometimes!  :silly: :beer:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Texas Yellow Rose on October 14, 2022, 12:03:15 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Bet you didn't know you wrote that....
Because you didn't... But I read it!
I love my old eyes sometimes!  :silly: :beer:

 :rolling:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: art.prout on October 23, 2022, 01:51:54 am
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Bet you didn't know you wrote that....
Because you didn't... But I read it!
I love my old eyes sometimes!  :silly: :beer:

 :silly:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: corbe on October 23, 2022, 01:58:29 am
(https://i.imgflip.com/3tspyi.jpg)
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: libertybele on October 23, 2022, 02:12:47 am
My sister will be heading there in a couple of weeks...their caretaker managed to get on the island and check the house out. The new floors are ruined and that seems to be the extent of the damage so far in the house...now the garage was bad..their vehicles had water in their cup holders and all their new appliances that were being stored in the garage are ruined also. They have their work cut out for them when they get there...not as bad as a lot of people.

@mystery-ak  I have been wondering and thought you had mentioned you had a sister who had a house on Sanibel.  My heart sinks for her as the flooding was pretty intense; prayers up.

It is absolutely amazing what DeSantis has accomplished.  I have to commend him for gathering a team before the storm.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: libertybele on October 23, 2022, 02:14:07 am
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Bet you didn't know you wrote that....
Because you didn't... But I read it!
I love my old eyes sometimes!  :silly: :beer:

Good grief!!!  Only you @roamer_1   :rolling:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: roamer_1 on October 23, 2022, 04:18:29 am
Good grief!!!  Only you @roamer_1   :rolling:

You think that's bad, @libertybele , you should hear what people SAY in my presence... Or what I think they said... Or what I thought I heard them say.

My old ears are WAY more perverted than my old eyes. But I find it delightful. One of the true pleasures of growing older.

 :laugh: :beer:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Hoodat on October 23, 2022, 04:45:05 am
(https://i.imgflip.com/3tspyi.jpg)

Half measures avail us nothing.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Bigun on October 23, 2022, 02:03:28 pm
You think that's bad, @libertybele , you should hear what people SAY in my presence... Or what I think they said... Or what I thought I heard them say.

My old ears are WAY more perverted than my old eyes. But I find it delightful. One of the true pleasures of growing older.

 :laugh: :beer:

In my presence people generally say whatever I want them to say because I can't hear anything they actually say.  Especially so if it's anything other than a one on one conversation.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: libertybele on October 23, 2022, 04:27:44 pm
You think that's bad, @libertybele , you should hear what people SAY in my presence... Or what I think they said... Or what I thought I heard them say.

My old ears are WAY more perverted than my old eyes. But I find it delightful. One of the true pleasures of growing older.

 :laugh: :beer:

I fully understand; my ears are shot (too many rock concerts) and it is funny sometimes what I think I heard people say. :laugh:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: roamer_1 on October 23, 2022, 04:37:18 pm
In my presence people generally say whatever I want them to say because I can't hear anything they actually say.  Especially so if it's anything other than a one on one conversation.

I can almost hear em... Even mostly hear em... Women a little harder... Too many years around machinery and guns, so high pitches are harder. But that's why it is so funny. I am not using my imagination. It's my brain processing input as best it can - Sometimes a bit inaccurately.

I swear, my mother and I were talking one time about one of her friends in an amicable fashion...

She stops and looks at me and my sainted mother plainly said:

"She sh*ts moon rocks."

ROTFLMAO!!! Now... I know dang well that ain't what she said. I still don't know what she really said. Because that was so dang funny I started misfiring and nearly stalled out.

But that's what I heard.  :laugh:

I am telling ya - it's no end of entertainment!
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: roamer_1 on October 23, 2022, 04:38:42 pm
I fully understand; my ears are shot (too many rock concerts) and it is funny sometimes what I think I heard people say. :laugh:

 happy77 :beer:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Bigun on October 23, 2022, 04:51:01 pm
I can almost hear em... Even mostly hear em... Women a little harder... Too many years around machinery and guns, so high pitches are harder. But that's why it is so funny. I am not using my imagination. It's my brain processing input as best it can - Sometimes a bit inaccurately.

I swear, my mother and I were talking one time about one of her friends in an amicable fashion...

She stops and looks at me and my sainted mother plainly said:

"She sh*ts moon rocks."

ROTFLMAO!!! Now... I know dang well that ain't what she said. I still don't know what she really said. Because that was so dang funny I started misfiring and nearly stalled out.

But that's what I heard.  :laugh:

I am telling ya - it's no end of entertainment!

It often irritates my wife for me to repeat what I THINK she said back to her. Generally, just before she starts ROFLHAO!
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: roamer_1 on October 23, 2022, 04:53:02 pm
It often irritates my wife for me to repeat what I THINK she said back to her. Generally, just before she starts ROFLHAO!

 :laugh: :beer:
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: corbe on October 23, 2022, 04:54:21 pm
   I seem to have graduated to the 'I don't even listen anymore'.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: libertybele on October 23, 2022, 07:23:00 pm
We don't live far from this area and have walked the beach many, many times and some of our favorite restaurants are out on the island.  I haven't ventured out to that area to take a look.  I'll wait several more months.  I am happy that the lighthouse is still standing though.  The destruction in the area is a lot to take in.  8888crybaby   Prayers up for all that are recovering from loss or who have lost loved ones. 

Sanibel and Captiva islands continue recovering from Ian

Weeks after Hurricane Ian, people are still in shock over the enormous damage on Sanibel and Captiva islands.

Some of the most beloved, classic, and treasured spots, like the lighthouse, took the brunt of Ian’s force.

Mark Delagado is one of the people that is lending a helping hand to the area and assisting in the cleanup.

“Thank goodness, the lighthouse stood, so that was durable. But everything in that whole area seems to be totally destroyed,” Delgado said.

The former red hue emitted from the lighthouse that so many loved has shifted to look rustier. The buildings that once stood strong alongside the lighthouse lay in ruins.

But the posts that held up the lighthouse withstood the massive force of nature and resolutely stood their ground.

WINK News asked Delgado the difference between how the area looked before and how it looked on Friday.

“It’s night and day. You know you had picturesque buildings and scenery and vegetation. Now it’s just desolate. It looks like a bomb went off,” Delgado said................

(https://t3.ftcdn.net/jpg/00/81/26/54/240_F_81265485_ViFvKNrKhgXKqWeh6PtPBi0RfLyliIl4.jpg)

https://www.winknews.com/2022/10/21/sanibel-and-captiva-islands-continue-recovering-from-ian/
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 23, 2022, 08:32:22 pm
My parents have heard back their insurance companies they’re thrilled both their car and boat made money… of course there’s now basically nothing to buy.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Idiot on October 23, 2022, 11:07:50 pm
I found out yesterday that my cousin's daughter and her family live on Sanibel Island.  In all of their wisdom they stayed during the hurricane, thinking it was headed to Tampa.  Their house on stilts survived, except for some water damage, but their truck floated away.  Still can't believe they stayed....ughhhh.  They are going to start school back for the kids on Monday I think they said, in another town, but with the same teachers.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: roamer_1 on October 24, 2022, 12:08:28 am
I found out yesterday that my cousin's daughter and her family live on Sanibel Island.  In all of their wisdom they stayed during the hurricane, thinking it was headed to Tampa.  Their house on stilts survived, except for some water damage, but their truck floated away.  Still can't believe they stayed....ughhhh.  They are going to start school back for the kids on Monday I think they said, in another town, but with the same teachers.

That ain't zackly their fault IIRC... The evac for the places it hit came way late.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: Wingnut on October 24, 2022, 12:59:41 am
That ain't zackly their fault IIRC... The evac for the places it hit came way late.
Never under estimate the "Cone of uncertainty"
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: libertybele on October 24, 2022, 01:00:49 am
I found out yesterday that my cousin's daughter and her family live on Sanibel Island.  In all of their wisdom they stayed during the hurricane, thinking it was headed to Tampa.  Their house on stilts survived, except for some water damage, but their truck floated away.  Still can't believe they stayed....ughhhh.  They are going to start school back for the kids on Monday I think they said, in another town, but with the same teachers.

Well, for days we were told it was going to make landfall at or around Tampa. Exactly the same mistake they made with hurricane Charley's path in '04.  I can't exactly fault your cousin's daughter -- weather reports were not in agreement and evacuation orders were not clear and in fact confusing.

We knew this was coming up this side of the Gulf which is never a good thing as it means storm surge.

They 'advised' those on Ft. Myers Beach, Sanibel, Captiva, Pine Island and St. James city to evacuate  when traffic was already heavy. (It took my friend 12 hours to get out of FL and she left 2 days before they started announcing evacuations).

They then evacuated Lee County in phases according to zones.  They were by  then certain of a direct hit -- and then mandated an evacuation of the barrier islands --how were all of us (780,000+) supposed to get out?? They announced that the bridges were closing and to evacuate or shelter in place by 8:00 p.m.  Yet, they closed the bridges when the winds hit over 45mph.  My daughter worked that night and had to go around barricades before the bridge to get home and with the winds worsening she knew there was no chance of evacuating the morning of the hurricane. 

At 9:00 the night before the hurricane, with no warning from the local weather, no alerts, our zone was mandated to evacuate!!  Yet, we were told ALL must be in place by 8:00. -- bridges were closing and it was too dangerous to be out.  We experienced hurricane force winds earlier than projected.

The local weather stations, the local alert systems, city managers, the sheriff of Lee County ALL FAILED!!  The sheriff got up and lied saying that people were warned to evacuate well in advance and he couldn't force them to leave.  As a result people died. 

We were hit hard for hours-- first the outer eyewall hit, then the eyewall hit and then we got slammed by the outer eye wall as it left. Many experienced significant storm surge, bridges collapsed.

Collier County saw storm surge as well and they were evacuated a day before Lee County. Lee County city managers were still debating and started evacuations a day and a half later!

Most importantly, there is no way to evacuate all of Collier County and Lee County within a couple of days. It is impossible.  There is one exit north and one exit east -- with a couple of jaunts here and there that takes you around some traffic but you wind up in the same mess.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: libertybele on October 24, 2022, 01:12:30 am
Never under estimate the "Cone of uncertainty"

Never under estimate your gut feeling. I was absolutely right.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2022, 01:28:59 am
I found out yesterday that my cousin's daughter and her family live on Sanibel Island.  In all of their wisdom they stayed during the hurricane, thinking it was headed to Tampa.  Their house on stilts survived, except for some water damage, but their truck floated away.  Still can't believe they stayed....ughhhh.  They are going to start school back for the kids on Monday I think they said, in another town, but with the same teachers.

My sister and bil have a house on Sanibel..they haven't been down there since there is no power and no place to stay....from what they have been told...the house first floor wasn't damaged too bad...all the floors are ruined...most of the damage was in the garage where their two cars were flooded up to the cup holders...they were being re-modeled at the time so all the new appliances and furniture was store in the garage are ruined...no idea when they will go down..all depends when the power is restored..
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: cato potatoe on October 25, 2022, 08:05:21 pm
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The cone definitely included Lee County well in advance.  Storm surge was always likely, as the circulation was medium-large as soon as it formed.  As beautiful as the barrier islands are, nobody should store anything valuable there, and nor should they consider riding out a tropical system.  Sanibel is just a sand bar ... come back in a few hundred years, and it will be in a different spot.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: libertybele on October 26, 2022, 01:59:55 am
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The cone definitely included Lee County well in advance.  Storm surge was always likely, as the circulation was medium-large as soon as it formed.  As beautiful as the barrier islands are, nobody should store anything valuable there, and nor should they consider riding out a tropical system.  Sanibel is just a sand bar ... come back in a few hundred years, and it will be in a different spot.

Sanibel Island is beautiful.  We've walked the beaches several times and when we first moved here 30 years ago, the waters were a beautiful blue in color.  Yes, things have changed and I imagine that after they rebuild, Sanibel will be beautiful again with wonderful beaches, unique restaurants and specialty shops.

I wonder how Ding Darling Wildlife Refuge fared?  Lots of trails and boardwalks.
Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: libertybele on October 26, 2022, 02:05:20 am
Yay!!!! Unbelievable. Jerry's is unique in that they have a restaurant off to the side of their marketplace and you can have your groceries delivered to your car by a conveyor belt that goes from the second floor down to the parking garage.  We haven't been since the pandemic (cough,cough) hit...but we will certainly go to support them. We'll wait awhile so that those on the island that need groceries will be able to get what they need first.

Jerry’s Foods celebrates reopening on Sanibel Island after Hurricane Ian

Jerry’s Foods marked another milestone for Sanibel Island’s recovery from the devastation of Hurricane Ian.

The Sept. 28 storm brought 155 mph winds and at least a dozen feet of storm surge to the island. Jerry’s, built in 1983 and elevated more than 15 feet above ground level, did not flood, but suffered some damage, including a destroyed freezer and other cosmetic damage to the outside.

Inside, despite a vacant freezer, Jerry’s became the first grocery store to reopen on the island with a soft launch Friday. The building at 1700 Periwinkle Way rejoined the power grid Monday.

On Tuesday, Sanibel Mayor Holly Smith, Sanibel-Captiva Chamber of Commerce President John Lai and a team of employees from the Lee County Visitor and Convention Bureau cut the ceremonial ribbon 27 days after Hurricane Ian hit.

By Friday, the inside cafeteria should be serving hot meals to residents, reconstruction crews and first responders.

“We must have been some of the first people to get back on the island,” Jerry’s General Manager Rick Winningham said of the initial days following the storm. “It was unbelievable. It was almost like a bomb went off.”

Winningham said his heart sunk upon first seeing the building. There were downed trees everywhere and debris tossed by the winds, too.

“I literally thought it would be nine months to a year before we’d have the opportunity to open up for business again,” Winningham said.

Instead, it took less than four weeks.

“It’s huge,” Lai said of the morale boost Jerry’s would provide to residents of Sanibel. “It can’t be understated. This is our first step in restoration. It’s getting the essentials out to our residents and our businesses in the form of groceries...............

https://www.gulfshorebusiness.com/jerrys-foods-celebrates-reopening-on-sanibel-island-after-hurricane-ian/

Title: Re: Hurricane Ian Thread
Post by: cato potatoe on October 26, 2022, 02:43:28 am
Sanibel Island is beautiful.  We've walked the beaches several times and when we first moved here 30 years ago, the waters were a beautiful blue in color.  Yes, things have changed and I imagine that after they rebuild, Sanibel will be beautiful again with wonderful beaches, unique restaurants and specialty shops.

I wonder how Ding Darling Wildlife Refuge fared?  Lots of trails and boardwalks.

The refuge was also crushed by Charley, but nature has a way of mending itself.  I think you will be surprised at how things progress with building and infrastructure repairs around Lee Co.  The natural beauty will take more time, and the “Old Florida” wooden structures aren’t coming back.  However, the area has too many people with an interest in restoring their memories to keep it from languishing.