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Trump: I’m victim of 'single greatest witch hunt'
By Jordan Fabian - 05/18/17 07:47 AM EDT
President Trump on Thursday decried the naming of a special counsel to probe his campaign’s alleged Russia ties as the “single greatest witch hunt” in American political history.
“This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!” Trump tweeted.
He added that there was never such a probe into what he called “illegal acts” committed during Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign and former President Obama’s administration.
“With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign & Obama Administration, there was never a special councel [sic] appointed!”
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http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/trump-tweet-greatest-witch-hunt-in-history-special-councel
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Sorry, but tough guys like Trump shouldn't be whining...
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Sorry, but tough guys like Trump shouldn't be whining...
He better plan on seeing a lot of the people he stepped on on his way to the top.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_UnPzp2lmNk
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There he goes again making light of the great burden and persecution Witches have suffered.
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He better plan on seeing a lot of the people he stepped on on his way to the top.
Well I don't know if they will help him.. Him stepping on people may appeal to talk radio, but in reality when you stab people in the back and when you need help from people you stabbed in the back, guess what they may not help you at all..
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Well I don't know if they will help him.. Him stepping on people may appeal to talk radio, but in reality when you stab people in the back and when you need help from people you stabbed in the back, guess what they may not help you at all..
That's my point. He'll see a lot of those same people helping him right back to the bottom.
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Sorry, but tough guys like Trump shouldn't be whining...
It's not a matter of whining. This is a hostile attempt to overturn the results of a free and fair election. We're witnessing the start of a civil war.
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Sorry, but tough guys like Trump shouldn't be whining...
Self-pity is always "bad box office". It turns people off.
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Well I don't know if they will help him.. Him stepping on people may appeal to talk radio, but in reality when you stab people in the back and when you need help from people you stabbed in the back, guess what they may not help you at all..
That goes all around.
Honestly, I don't think there was any collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.
I knew I wasn't voting for an angel in 2016. But between Democratic AGs deciding to investigate opponents of climate change, the attacks on Trump supporters in San Jose in June, a Clinton campaign aide saying Breitbart News had "no right to exist," the "basket of deplorables" comment, and the revelations about what Creamer was doing via Project Veritas... Hillary winning would have been a kill shot to the ability of anyone to the right of Susan Collins to make a case.
We would have faced an army of Lois Lerners.
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It's not a matter of whining. This is a hostile attempt to overturn the results of a free and fair election. We're witnessing the start of a civil war.
It is and there's nothing wrong with Trump saying so.
Pretending those caterwauling about Russian influence are being honest in their concern is about the worst thing he could do.
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That goes all around.
Honestly, I don't think there was any collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.
I knew I wasn't voting for an angel in 2016. But between Democratic AGs deciding to investigate opponents of climate change, the attacks on Trump supporters in San Jose in June, a Clinton campaign aide saying Breitbart News had "no right to exist," the "basket of deplorables" comment, and the revelations about what Creamer was doing via Project Veritas... Hillary winning would have been a kill shot to the ability of anyone to the right of Susan Collins to make a case.
We would have faced an army of Lois Lerners.
Haven't heard from you for awhile. Welcome.
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It's not a matter of whining. This is a hostile attempt to overturn the results of a free and fair election. We're witnessing the start of a civil war.
@Jazzhead
DAMN!!! Something I agree with you about! FINALLY!!!
This is ALL about stopping any swamp draining and it's working to perfection!
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It's not a matter of whining. This is a hostile attempt to overturn the results of a free and fair election. We're witnessing the start of a civil war.
:beer: Exactly. How more people don't see what's going on is beyond me; especially since the DEMS and RINO's stated they were going to make sure he was a one term president or impeach him; and that was before he was even sworn in!
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He better plan on seeing a lot of the people he stepped on on his way to the top.
@Cripplecreek
He already has and Cruz was a better man and has lined up to help Trump succeed.
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@Cripplecreek
He already has and Cruz was a better man and has lined up to help Trump succeed.
Go Ted!! :patriot:
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Quite frankly, I'm sick of the leftists and RINO's B.S. It would be wonderful to see all those who support our President ...show that we stand behind him.
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:beer: Exactly. How more people don't see what's going on is beyond me; especially since the DEMS and RINO's stated they were going to make sure he was a one term president or impeach him; and that was before he was even sworn in!
Oh.... they see it. They know full well what ^ ^ this is. The problem is.... some of them are fully on-board with this leftist agenda's destination.
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Trump, the drama queen.
Sounds like our last "persecuted" president.
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There are no victims, only volunteers.
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It's not a matter of whining. This is a hostile attempt to overturn the results of a free and fair election. We're witnessing the start of a civil war.
Sorry, Trump did this to himself... I remember in how we mocked Hillary for saying there was a Conspiracy to take down her husband.. Also, a tough guy like Trump shouldn't be claiming victimhood....
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Sorry, Trump did this to himself... I remember in how we mocked Hillary for saying there was a Conspiracy to take down her husband.. Also, a tough guy like Trump shouldn't be claiming victimhood....
If only Hillary's "vast rightwing conspiracy" were able to conjure up the 24 hours Rube Goldberg news cycle with its own special prosecutor.
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Sorry, Trump did this to himself... I remember in how we mocked Hillary for saying there was a Conspiracy to take down her husband.. Also, a tough guy like Trump shouldn't be claiming victimhood....
BS!!! 100% USDA Choice Grade A!
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If only Hillary's "vast rightwing conspiracy" were able to conjure up the 24 hours Rube Goldberg news cycle with its own special prosecutor.
Sorry, as a conservative, I don't believe in the victim mentality nor do I believe in dark forces, the deep state, conspiracies, or other Inforwars bulls**t..
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Sorry, as a conservative, I don't believe in the victim mentality nor do I believe in dark forces, the deep state, conspiracies, or other Inforwars bulls**t..
Then you are NOT paying attention!
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Then you are NOT paying attention!
I have every reason too... I guess you need to read the story about the Boy Who Cried Wolf....
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Sorry, as a conservative, I don't believe in the victim mentality nor do I believe in dark forces, the deep state, conspiracies, or other Inforwars bulls**t..
Bully for you. I'm just pointing out that your comparison with Hillary's conspiracy whining is BS.
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He is correct.
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Sorry, Trump did this to himself... I remember in how we mocked Hillary for saying there was a Conspiracy to take down her husband.. Also, a tough guy like Trump shouldn't be claiming victimhood....
No question Trump's been ham-handed and foolish. But that doesn't take away the right of his voters to the choice they made in a free and fair election. I didn't vote for the man, but in the coming civil war, I know what side I'm on.
I support the naming of a special prosecutor because hopefully it will get some of the partisans off his back and let him get back to the peoples' business. Trump's besieged, and, yes, it's still up to him to stop shooting himself in the foot. But as amateurish as he's been, I do not support a coup to overturn the election.
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I have every reason too... I guess you need to read the story about the Boy Who Cried Wolf....
I've read it! It has no bearing on what is happening today!
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No question Trump's been ham-handed and foolish. But that doesn't take away the right of his voters to the choice they made in a free and fair election. I didn't vote for the man, but in the coming civil war, I know what side I'm on.
I support the naming of a special prosecutor because hopefully it will get some of the partisans off his back and let him get back to the peoples' business. Trump's besieged, and, yes, it's still up to him to stop shooting himself in the foot. But as amateurish as he's been, I do not support a coup to overturn the election.
Well put...., I'd just hope he can cleanly hand over the reins to Pence in a clean and clear method that keeps the power base intact..... And denies the dims political capital in the process.
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He is correct.
Mega dittos @flowers
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Well put...., I'd just hope he can cleanly hand over the reins to Pence in a clean and clear method that keeps the power base intact.....
Sorry to disappoint you @catfish1957 ... but Mike Pence is going to have to fight for it in 2024, just like the rest of the hopefuls.
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Well put...., I'd just hope he can cleanly hand over the reins to Pence in a clean and clear method that keeps the power base intact..... And denies the dims political capital in the process.
I'll give you odds that if this happens within one year Pence will be similarly hobbled and we'll be talking about President Whomever He Appointed As His VP.
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Probably could have worded it differently, but the kernel of what he says is true.
Whatever works for him. Stab the liberals in the eye at all times and for any reason. Such as it's Tuesday, or the Mets lost.
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I'll give you odds that if this happens within one year Pence will be similarly hobbled and we'll be talking about President Whomever He Appointed As His VP.
Possibly, but Pence is a straight laced professional, who will be much less susceptible to scandal.
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Well put...., I'd just hope he can cleanly hand over the reins to Pence in a clean and clear method that keeps the power base intact..... And denies the dims political capital in the process.
If Trump is forced out, then the Left-wing putsch wins.
Worse, those who believed the system is rigged will have the proof in Trump being forced out.
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If Trump is forced out, then the Left-wing putsch wins.
Worse, those who believed the system is rigged will have the proof in Trump being forced out.
Are you 100.00% sure what Trump has done since January won't merit removal?
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Sorry, Trump did this to himself... I remember in how we mocked Hillary for saying there was a Conspiracy to take down her husband.. Also, a tough guy like Trump shouldn't be claiming victimhood....
What exactly did Trump do? Tried to get money for a border wall? Tried to ban terrorists from entering this country? Him trying to repeal and replace Bammycare? Perhaps you didn't like that he appointed a conservative justice? Right now, the only thing I can fault him with really is putting his daughter and his corrupt son-in-law in the White House.
He WON the election. Yes he tweets and he rants ... but he WON! Since he's taken office he has been met with nothing but disdain and obstruction from his own party, the DEMS and the MSM.
No, I was never a fan of Trump and I worked hard to try to get someone else in ... but bottom line ...is he won! We don't have Hillary because of Trump. We have Gorsuch to replace Scalia. He has taken a bold stance against Syria ...so what exactly has he done to deserve all the crap that is going on? He is the President of the United States of America and yet the DEMS, RINO's and the MSM are trying to destroy him and I hate to break it to you, but if they succeed, they will also succeed in destroying this country.
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I'll give you odds that if this happens within one year Pence will be similarly hobbled and we'll be talking about President Whomever He Appointed As His VP.
Absolutely ... the left is angry, bitter, and still in shock that Hillary even with all the massive money and corruption both domestically and abroad, lost. Also, keep in mind ... that the left cannot allow her to be prosecuted or held accountable for Benghazi or $$ through the Clinton foundation funneled to terrorist groups and the Muslim Brotherhood, nor can they have it known that she supplied uranium to Putin.
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Possibly, but Pence is a straight laced professional, who will be much less susceptible to scandal.
If this were truly about a scandal. Its not.
I took it seriously when the left said they were determined to reverse the results of the election, the day after November 8.
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Are you 100.00% sure what Trump has done since January won't merit removal?
Let me see ... believe Trump ... or believe the DEMS, RINO's and MSM?? Nope, not 100% sure, but I'll take the odds with Trump.
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It's not a matter of whining. This is a hostile attempt to overturn the results of a free and fair election. We're witnessing the start of a civil war.
Not even close on either part. He's whining. He's the freaking President of the United States and he sounds like some paranoid delusional.
And even if this what you hysterically and falsely claim is the start of a civil war...you're the type that will merrily get behind whichever side looks like it might win and merrily change sides if fortunes change. You won't lift a finger to fight...that's beneath you to actually get your hands dirty.
Think the Inn Keeper from Les Miserables.
That's you.
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Sorry, Trump did this to himself... I remember in how we mocked Hillary for saying there was a Conspiracy to take down her husband.. Also, a tough guy like Trump shouldn't be claiming victimhood....
Nailed it perfectly. Well said.
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Oh stop whining. :taz:
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What exactly did Trump do? Tried to get money for a border wall? Tried to ban terrorists from entering this country? Him trying to repeal and replace Bammycare? Perhaps you didn't like that he appointed a conservative justice? Right now, the only thing I can fault him with really is putting his daughter and his corrupt son-in-law in the White House.
He WON the election. Yes he tweets and he rants ... but he WON! Since he's taken office he has been met with nothing but disdain and obstruction from his own party, the DEMS and the MSM.
No, I was never a fan of Trump and I worked hard to try to get someone else in ... but bottom line ...is he won! We don't have Hillary because of Trump. We have Gorsuch to replace Scalia. He has taken a bold stance against Syria ...so what exactly has he done to deserve all the crap that is going on? He is the President of the United States of America and yet the DEMS, RINO's and the MSM are trying to destroy him and I hate to break it to you, but if they succeed, they will also succeed in destroying this country.
Please don't hold your breath for a cogent answer to that very pertinent question. I'm betting that you won't get one.
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Perfect analogy of the current situation!
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What exactly did Trump do? Tried to get money for a border wall? Tried to ban terrorists from entering this country? Him trying to repeal and replace Bammycare? Perhaps you didn't like that he appointed a conservative justice? Right now, the only thing I can fault him with really is putting his daughter and his corrupt son-in-law in the White House.
He WON the election. Yes he tweets and he rants ... but he WON! Since he's taken office he has been met with nothing but disdain and obstruction from his own party, the DEMS and the MSM.
No, I was never a fan of Trump and I worked hard to try to get someone else in ... but bottom line ...is he won! We don't have Hillary because of Trump. We have Gorsuch to replace Scalia. He has taken a bold stance against Syria ...so what exactly has he done to deserve all the crap that is going on? He is the President of the United States of America and yet the DEMS, RINO's and the MSM are trying to destroy him and I hate to break it to you, but if they succeed, they will also succeed in destroying this country.
He waffled on the border wall before he was even sworn in.
He made no effort to fully repeal Obamacare...didn't even try...but we already knew that because he was touting Single Payer as a candidate.
He badly mishandled the roll out of his first travel ban and let the media dictate the narrative on it from that point forward. Nothing from the WH trying to clearly explain why they are within their right to do this and it's not a violation of anyone's civil rights OR the 1965 INA.
He's siding with Iran and Russia in Syria...and being cheered by people here for doing it.
Hillary is still free and not in jail.
He reneged on yet another promise yesterday...the U.S. Embassy won't be moved from Tel Aviv and his staff is screaming at the Israelis that Jerusalem isn't even part of their country with no correction from Trump himself.
He thinks he can succeed with the PLO where Clinton failed and have "Peace in our time" in the Middle East.
As for Gorsuch...the jury is still out. We won't know until he helps decide an important case whether he's the next Scalia or Thomas or the next Roberts or Kennedy on the court.
And that's just the crap he's done to bring this on himself that I can think of off the top of my head.
You have to be willfully blind or blissfully ignorant to not see what he's done to himself to start his four years in office.
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Are you 100.00% sure what Trump has done since January won't merit removal?
Yes.
It's bigger than Trump.
Do we cede power to an increasingly totalitarian Left, or do we fight for our country to remain America? There are no sidelines to sit on, no middle ground to be had here. Either Trump wins, or those behind the putsch win.
That is the reality.
They would be doing this to ANYONE, by the way. The details would be different, but this putsch was in place.
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President Trump on Thursday decried the naming of a special counsel to probe his campaign’s alleged Russia ties as the “single greatest witch hunt” in American political history.
“This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!” Trump tweeted.
THIS is the "LION"; the "Right Man for the Right Time to do battle for the American People"???????; The Master of 6 Dimensional Chess????
BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAHAHAAAAHHAAAAAAA!
He's nothing but a typical whiny politician tossing a tantrum because he cannot run the country like he does his business empire.
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If this were truly about a scandal. Its not.
I took it seriously when the left said they were determined to reverse the results of the election, the day after November 8.
So am I.
Either people are with Trump, or they're with the putsch.
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So am I.
Either people are with Trump, or they're with the putsch.
Don't be such a simpleton.
This isn't FR. You actually have to use your brain here.
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Yes.
It's bigger than Trump.
Do we cede power to an increasingly totalitarian Left, or do we fight for our country to remain America? There are no sidelines to sit on, no middle ground to be had here. Either Trump wins, or those behind the putsch win.
That is the reality.
They would be doing this to ANYONE, by the way. The details would be different, but this putsch was in place.
I can obviously live with that. But what if there has been wrongdoing? Even back in the campaign, I was suspicious of Manafort and his connections to that part of the world. Tillerson too.
Just wondering, do Trump supporters play 7th calvary privates surrounding Custer?, or take the approach of a transition to Pence.
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Yes.
It's bigger than Trump.
Do we cede power to an increasingly totalitarian Left, or do we fight for our country to remain America? There are no sidelines to sit on, no middle ground to be had here. Either Trump wins, or those behind the putsch win.
That is the reality.
They would be doing this to ANYONE, by the way. The details would be different, but this putsch was in place.
:amen: :amen: and :amen:
The democrats are in the wilderness all over this land and are thus very desperate!
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Sorry, but tough guys like Trump shouldn't be whining...
IMO, the fact that he IS whining and calling himself a "victim" diminishes the TRUTH that there are dark forces out there seeking to bring America down.
If he would behave and speak like a man, he would be far more effective in fighting the enemy. By crying and moaning that he's a victim, all he does is give the left power.
But then again, maybe that's his goal. I don't trust the guy as far as he can be thrown. He's a liberal.
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:amen: :amen: and :amen:
The democrats are in the wilderness all over this land and are thus very desperate!
And Trump is giving them more power by his wimpy whining.
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Absolutely ... the left is angry, bitter, and still in shock that Hillary even with all the massive money and corruption both domestically and abroad, lost. Also, keep in mind ... that the left cannot allow her to be prosecuted or held accountable for Benghazi or $$ through the Clinton foundation funneled to terrorist groups and the Muslim Brotherhood, nor can they have it known that she supplied uranium to Putin.
Great reminder @libertybele
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And Trump is giving them more power by his wimpy whining.
I disagree! I think that's the second time. 888high58888
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Yes.
It's bigger than Trump.
Do we cede power to an increasingly totalitarian Left, or do we fight for our country to remain America? There are no sidelines to sit on, no middle ground to be had here. Either Trump wins, or those behind the putsch win.
That is the reality.
They would be doing this to ANYONE, by the way. The details would be different, but this putsch was in place.
:thumbsup3: :thumbsup3: :thumbsup3:
@hchutch
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Trump sounds like a whining little bitch.
STFU and get your shit done.
Stop trying to blame others for your own problems.
I am so tired of this guy.
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Question. Since when is stating the truth considered whining?
Can anyone here honestly deny the ongoing, 24/7 leftist campaign to destroy Trump? Really?
Hell, I only wished that George Bush would have come out and "whined" the truth about how the rabid, frothing leftist Democrats were going after and trying to destroy him. Would have been nice to hear... just once.
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Trump sounds like a whining little bitch.
STFU and get your shit done.
Stop trying to blame others for your own problems.
I am so tired of this guy.
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Don't be such a simpleton.
This isn't FR. You actually have to use your brain here.
LOL. I thought that was a new way to spell "Putz" So at least he made me use my brain. I'm tired now. I think I'll take a nap. I don't want to overtax myself and all.
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Sorry, as a conservative, I don't believe in the victim mentality nor do I believe in dark forces, the deep state, conspiracies, or other Inforwars bulls**t..
Apparently you don't get out much or read much, either.
The deep state has been widely recognized since Reagan's time or before. What do you think Eisenhower meant, by referring to the "military industrial" complex?
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Question. Since when is stating the truth considered whining?
Can anyone here honestly deny the ongoing, 24/7 leftist campaign to destroy Trump? Really?
Hell, I only wished that George Bush would have come out and "whined" the truth about how the rabid, frothing leftist Democrats were going after and trying to destroy him. Would have been nice to hear... just once.
When did whining about an invisible boogey man suddenly become "stating the truth"?
We used to laugh at politicians and Presidents shrieking about conspiracies against them.
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Apparently you don't get out much or read much, either.
The deep state has been widely recognized since Reagan's time or before. What do you think Eisenhower meant, by referring to the "military industrial" complex?
Uh-huh
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I can obviously live with that. But what if there has been wrongdoing? Even back in the campaign, I was suspicious of Manafort and his connections to that part of the world. Tillerson too.
Just wondering, do Trump supporters play 7th calvary privates surrounding Custer?, or take the approach of a transition to Pence.
Wow, 20 minutes later, and not one response from a Trump supporter. Kind of answers my questions.
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Wow, 20 minutes later, and not one response from a Trump supporter. Kind of answers my questions.
I think it will be more akin to the Charge of the Light Brigade instead of the Little Big Horn if and when any of this stuff concerning Trump begins to stick.
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So am I.
Either people are with Trump, or they're with the putsch.
Ronald Reagan crafted the perfect response to deal with his detractors:
There you go again!
When Trump acts in accordance with the Constitution, I'm for him.
When Trump doesn't act in accordance with the Constitution, I'm against him.
He's now the POTUS, and the buck stops with him. He should tweet softly, carry a big stick, and quit whining.
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Wow, 20 minutes later, and not one response from a Trump supporter. Kind of answers my questions.
@catfish1957
In all fairness it is kinda hard to reach "the Mothership" for a quick retort these days. Pretty much all they have have is Jungle drums and snail mail.
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I can obviously live with that. But what if there has been wrongdoing? Even back in the campaign, I was suspicious of Manafort and his connections to that part of the world. Tillerson too.
Just wondering, do Trump supporters play 7th calvary privates surrounding Custer?, or take the approach of a transition to Pence.
I'm heading up north on a road trip in July. One of the stops we're making is Little Big Horn.
Another stop will be Devil's Tower. Way things are going, I expect to see a few aliens lurking there. Had we gone a bit further west (to Reno/Vegas), I'd definitely make another stop at the back gate of Area 51. It's eery out there, the road is gravel for about ten miles, the last 2 were paved. Weird.
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Then you are NOT paying attention!
You weren't paying attention to what a supreme douchebag whiner loser DJT was before pulling the voting machine lever.
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You weren't paying attention to what a supreme douchebag whiner loser DJT was before pulling the voting machine lever.
What makes you think I voted for Trump? Never have! Ever!
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It's not a matter of whining. This is a hostile attempt to overturn the results of a free and fair election. We're witnessing the start of a civil war.
Jazzhead, there's been an ongoing effort to subvert our form of government and individual sovereignty for a long, long time. The bad guys will exploit every opportunity, and looks like this administration is providing a big one.
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@catfish1957
In all fairness it is kinda hard to reach "the Mothership" for a quick retort these days. Pretty much all they have have is Jungle drums and snail mail.
With the MotherServer down a bunch of Trumpsters wandering around lost is a scary thought indeed @Wingnut
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With the MotherServer down a bunch of Trumpsters wandering around lost is a scary thought indeed @Wingnut
@corbe
@CatherineofAragon
Yep...Case in point: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?action=profile;u=116605
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THIS is the "LION"; the "Right Man for the Right Time to do battle for the American People"???????; The Master of 6 Dimensional Chess????
BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAHAHAAAAHHAAAAAAA!
He's nothing but a typical whiny politician tossing a tantrum because he cannot run the country like he does his business empire.
Implied facepalm.
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If we compare Apples to Apples here, in the early days of GWB's Administration, the recount had delayed his Cabinet choices being seated and the Dems were screamin bloody murder, stolen election, just like now and though many here fault him for not speaking up, He certainly didn't embrace the Victim mentality or whine, if I remember correctly he was still trying to get his $hit together on that fateful day in September.
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THIS is the "LION"; the "Right Man for the Right Time to do battle for the American People"???????; The Master of 6 Dimensional Chess???? BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAHAHAAAAHHAAAAAAA!
He's nothing but a typical whiny politician tossing a tantrum because he cannot run the country like he does his business empire.
@INVAR
@txradioguy
In his speech to the Coast Guard yesterday, he said this: "Look at the way I've been treated lately," he continued. "Especially by the media. No politician in history — and I say this with great surety — has been treated worse or more unfairly.
He has whined, complained, all his life that he is special among all of history and is treated unfairly more than anyone in history.
He finds fault with every single person as he actually believes no one is perfect like he is. He believes that and that mindset guides him every single day. He IS special in that his mind is screwed up like none other.
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When did whining about an invisible boogey man suddenly become "stating the truth"?
We used to laugh at politicians and Presidents shrieking about conspiracies against them.
Seriously..... if you can't see and discern what is actually going on (the leftist attempted coup to take down the Trump presidency) as more than a mere conspiracy....and as factual reality.... I don't know what to tell ya. It's either willful reluctance to see it.... or it's a mental disability that I would be loathe to have to point out. In my humble opinion, anyone that either won't or can't see that reality is part of the problem.
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If we compare Apples to Apples here, in the early days of GWB's Administration, the recount had delayed his Cabinet choices being seated and the Dems were screamin bloody murder, stolen election, just like now and though many here fault him for not speaking up, He certainly didn't embrace the Victim mentality or whine, if I remember correctly he was still trying to get his $hit together on that fateful day in September.
I remember there was some event including former presidents at the White House during the recount. George Bush senior was asked as he entered how his son was taking the stresses of the recount. He responded "Like a man, he's taking it like a man".
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Seriously..... if you can't see and discern what is actually going on (the leftist attempted coup to take down the Trump presidency) as more than a mere conspiracy....and as factual reality.... I don't know what to tell ya. It's either willful reluctance to see it.... or it's a mental disability that I would be loathe to have to point out. In my humble opinion, anyone that either won't or can't see that reality is part of the problem.
And how is this different from Mitch McConnell saying he was going to do everything he could to make Obama a one-term president?
The UniParty is where this so-called "attempted coup" is coming from. Outside the Beltway, no one is giving a whit about Special Prosecutors, Russian hacking, etc. What will matter is if nothing gets down in DC, i.e. no tax reform, no wall, no Obamacare repeal, and the UniParty will pay a heavy price next year. Only difference is that UniParty members with an 'R' after their names will be the ones sent back to the private sector. The ones with D's after their names have marginalized themselves, particularly those pining for another run by Hillary.
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And how is this different from Mitch McConnell saying he was going to do everything he could to make Obama a one-term president?
The UniParty is where this so-called "attempted coup" is coming from. Outside the Beltway, no one is giving a whit about Special Prosecutors, Russian hacking, etc. What will matter is if nothing gets down in DC, i.e. no tax reform, no wall, no Obamacare repeal, and the UniParty will pay a heavy price next year. Only difference is that UniParty members with an 'R' after their names will be the ones sent back to the private sector. The ones with D's after their names have marginalized themselves, particularly those pining for another run by Hillary.
LMAO! You're kidding. Right?
Bitch McConnell going after anyone is a very small threat.
You really, seriously, can't discern the mega-huge difference here? I'm amazed.
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Seriously..... if you can't see and discern what is actually going on (the leftist attempted coup to take down the Trump presidency) as more than a mere conspiracy....and as factual reality.... I don't know what to tell ya. It's either willful reluctance to see it.... or it's a mental disability that I would be loathe to have to point out. In my humble opinion, anyone that either won't or can't see that reality is part of the problem.
:amen:
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Seriously..... if you can't see and discern what is actually going on (the leftist attempted coup to take down the Trump presidency) as more than a mere conspiracy....and as factual reality.... I don't know what to tell ya. It's either willful reluctance to see it.... or it's a mental disability that I would be loathe to have to point out. In my humble opinion, anyone that either won't or can't see that reality is part of the problem.
Xena, we most certainly see and comprehend what is actually being attempted by the Left and the Establishment Oligarchy. That does not automatically necessitate us jumping into the trenches with the Trump Militant to defend their leader.
We are not blind to the fact that Trump and his people are handing out ammunition to their opposition on a daily basis. They are chucking hand grenades at all their enemies while forgetting to pull the pin.
Whining about it when you are the person providing them the avenues to exploit is the height of incompetence.
Supporting a general who insists on running right up the middle into fortified positions in just his underwear and armed with only a cellphone is not something we plan on sacrificing ourselves for, especially considering we do not know what it is exactly that he is fighting for.
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Bitch McConnell going after anyone is a very small threat.
Unless you live in KY and were part of the grassroots Tea Party movement. Then the threat was much more tangible, real and devastating.
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Just wondering, do Trump supporters play 7th calvary privates surrounding Custer?, or take the approach of a transition to Pence.
Let's get this straight: In your view, the privates at Little Big Horn when outnumbered, should have deserted?
#nevertrumps were never in the battle, what with their pipsqueak 3rd party vanity choices, and your deserter mentality reinforces why you don't deserve a seat at the adult political table now.
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LMAO! You're kidding. Right?
Bitch McConnell going after anyone is a very small threat.
You really, seriously, can't discern the mega-huge difference here? I'm amazed.
I humbly suggest you give Chris McDaniel a call.
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Xena, we most certainly see and comprehend what is actually being attempted by the Left and the Establishment Oligarchy. That does not automatically necessitate us jumping into the trenches with the Trump Militant to defend their leader.
We are not blind to the fact that Trump and his people are handing out ammunition to their opposition on a daily basis. They are chucking hand grenades at all their enemies while forgetting to pull the pin.
Whining about it when you are the person providing them the avenues to exploit is the height of incompetence.
Supporting a general who insists on running right up the middle into fortified positions in just his underwear and armed with only a cellphone is not something we plan on sacrificing ourselves for, especially considering we do not know what it is exactly that he is fighting for.
Brilliant @INVAR
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Let's get this straight: In your view, the privates at Little Big Horn when outnumbered, should have deserted?
#nevertrumps were never in the battle, what with their pipsqueak 3rd party vanity choices, and your deserter mentality reinforces why you don't deserve a seat at the adult political table now.
Nice rant...when Trump immolates, your words should keep you warm and cozy.
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Unless you live in KY and were part of the grassroots Tea Party movement. Then the threat was much more tangible, real and devastating.
When it came time to attack Ted Cruz, McConnell was the first person Trump turned to so the same old BS about the war between Trump and the establishment is still the same lie it always was.
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Let's get this straight: In your view, the privates at Little Big Horn when outnumbered, should have deserted?
#nevertrumps were never in the battle, what with their pipsqueak 3rd party vanity choices, and your deserter mentality reinforces why you don't deserve a seat at the adult political table now.
Up yours.........where did I ever say desert anything? I asked a simple question that you orange echobots refuse to answer. Nothing more, nothing less.
Me desert? FU.....I have stood as a principled conservative from the begining.
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Xena, we most certainly see and comprehend what is actually being attempted by the Left and the Establishment Oligarchy. That does not automatically necessitate us jumping into the trenches with the Trump Militant to defend their leader.
We are not blind to the fact that Trump and his people are handing out ammunition to their opposition on a daily basis. They are chucking hand grenades at all their enemies while forgetting to pull the pin.
Whining about it when you are the person providing them the avenues to exploit is the height of incompetence.
Supporting a general who insists on running right up the middle into fortified positions in just his underwear and armed with only a cellphone is not something we plan on sacrificing ourselves for, especially considering we do not know what it is exactly that he is fighting for.
And that is one point on which we disagree. While it is true that Trump provides the left ammo for ridicule via some (most?) of his tweets.... I do not see it as him providing the rabid left with "avenues" to attack him. They are looking for and when not found, creating those avenues out of thin air via this "death by a thousand cuts" campaign of media assault on him. There is not, to my knowledge at this time, one iota of proof of Trump's wrongdoing in all this mess. The left is, as always, only too willing to ignore that if/when it's not a gdamned Democrat involved. They don need no steenken proof then.
I get it that you don't like Trump. But don't let that cloud your judgment re: what is an ongoing campaign and agenda to reverse the results of last November's election.... just because the rabid left is pissed that they lost. Just sayin....
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When it came time to attack Ted Cruz, McConnell was the first person Trump turned to so the same old BS about the war between Trump and the establishment is still the same lie it always was.
And Mitch's reward was a cozy Cabinet post for his wife.
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I disagree! I think that's the second time. 888high58888
We don't disagree much, sir, but on this one we do.
Trump should act like a man. (Or a strong woman, for that matter).
This kind of victimhood swill is due to his deep liberal roots.
Fight evil with strength, not childishness. You can't fight a dangerous enemy with tears and a "poor me" complex.
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@catfish1957
In all fairness it is kinda hard to reach "the Mothership" for a quick retort these days. Pretty much all they have have is Jungle drums and snail mail.
I'll bet none of them know Morse Code either.
Tough to get talking points without instructions from the Puppet Master.
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I remember there was some event including former presidents at the White House during the recount. George Bush senior was asked as he entered how his son was taking the stresses of the recount. He responded "Like a man, he's taking it like a man".
Right. GW Bush was docile, much like Dole, McCain and Romney.
But nevertheless, he managed to teach us that islam was a religion of peace, and later push his amnesty program.
Then he turned his office and both chambers of the legislature over to the dems.
Or it is good to see somebody finally fight back.
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Up yours.........where did I ever say desert anything? I asked a simple question that you orange echobots refuse to answer. Nothing more, nothing less.
Me desert? FU.....I have stood as a principled conservative from the begining.
Hear, hear! As a mere 26 YO lad (maybe a bit more than a lad, I was nearing the end of my 4th year in Germany as an Air Defense Artillery officer...lol), I stood up for Ronald Reagan during the last few months of the election, engaging my German neighbors who were convinced that Reagan would start WWIII, and they were pleading with me to vote for Carter.
I engaged my neighbors in friendly conversation, pulling together my knowledge of world/US/military history to prove why Reagan was the better choice, and I did it for them in near-fluent German. I didn't belittle or demean them, I knew most of them came of age during WWII. I simply laid out the case, and told them that he'd also been a good governor for the state of California for 8 years.
Shortly after Inauguration Day, I was invited to sit at the stammtisch at that gasthaus, a table reserved for family and close friends of the family. It's an honor I cherish to this day, rarely accorded to an American. O/T, I think I'd be a great ambassador to Germany.
Fast forward 36 years, and I would likely have dined away from the discussions, professing "Ich kann nicht Deutsche sprechen!" :silly:
Catfish my brother, I'll be standing with you, on that you can be assured of.
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Right. GW Bush was docile, much like Dole, McCain and Romney.
But nevertheless, he managed to teach us that islam was a religion of peace, and later push his amnesty program.
Then he turned his office and both chambers of the legislature over to the dems.
Or it is good to see somebody finally fight back.
This one remembers the TOS talking point that it's important to bash GW Bush in order to build up Trump.
It never works, but they keep trying.
"Fighting back" only works if you're fighting for the truth........ and whining like a pre-adolescent girl isn't exactly what I'd call "fighting."
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Nice rant...when Trump immolates, your words should keep you warm and cozy.
The stench of weakness, cowardice and desertion are not qualities I value.
But on behalf of some #nevertrumps, feel free to do so if you like.
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We don't disagree much, sir, but on this one we do.
Trump should act like a man. (Or a strong woman, for that matter).
This kind of victimhood swill is due to his deep liberal roots.
Fight evil with strength, not childishness. You can't fight a dangerous enemy with tears and a "poor me" complex.
IMHO he is using the only avenue he has to fight back!
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IT'S TRUMPERTANTRUM TIME!!
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And that is one point on which we disagree. While it is true that Trump provides the left ammo for ridicule via some (most?) of his tweets.... I do not see it as him providing the rabid left with "avenues" to attack him. They are looking for and when not found, creating those avenues out of thin air via this "death by a thousand cuts" campaign of media assault on him. There is not, to my knowledge at this time, one iota of proof of Trump's wrongdoing in all this mess. The left is, as always, only too willing to ignore that if/when it's not a gdamned Democrat involved. They don need no steenken proof then.
I get it that you don't like Trump. But don't let that cloud your judgment re: what is an ongoing campaign and agenda to reverse the results of last November's election.... just because the rabid left is pissed that they lost. Just sayin....
This was going to happen regardless of whomever in the GOP won the election. We have devolved into a Socialist Democracy with the help of presidents, the Courts and Congress. The majority of the population has no use or want of a limited government - and the GOP has demonstrated they have no intention of limiting it either - only expanding it. This crossroads was going to come because the GOP has placated the Left time and again. 2000 was just the first foreshadowing of what we have arrived at. The Left thinks they own the right to rule, and the GOP has accommodated that belief by acquiescing to it.
That does not impel me to abandon my judgment regarding Trump or his mobs of supporters that want payback.
I'm somewhat ambivalent to Trump, though less so than I was Obama. I know what Trump is, and I do not expect any service to foundational principles that undergird Conservatism unless it happens by accident. The difference is I do not see Trump as hostile in intention to my liberties as it was under Obama. However, I spend most of my time shaking my head in incredulity as the sheer stupidity and petulance being displayed via his uncontrollable thumbs.
My assertive issues are largely centered over the reaction to any criticism of Trump by his faithful, because that cuts into my liberty should some of them get their way. Shaming or attempting to silence criticism via accusations of treason deserves the level of push back being devoted, and it makes those engaged in such efforts no different than those they claim to oppose. The allegory of noting the similarities of Communists versus Brownshirts back in the Weimar days is not without merit.
That said, Trump is his own worst enemy and he does himself absolutely no favors, and I have no faith that Trump is going to right this ship - because it is not in his character to do so.
I will enjoy being surprised if it does happen. And I will admit in advance that it will happen without any assistance from me.
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Up yours.........where did I ever say desert anything? I asked a simple question that you orange echobots refuse to answer. Nothing more, nothing less.
Me desert? FU.....I have stood as a principled conservative from the begining.
Your version of "principled conservatism," get nowhere if you are always on the sidelines.
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally - not a 20 percent traitor.
Ronald Reagan"
Trump is trying to enact the conservative agenda. Deserters are never satisfied. Wrong battle. Wrong leader. Wrong anything, to avoid commitment and participation.
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And Trump is giving them more power by his wimpy whining.
And, if Trump remains silent does that accomplish anything? The world is watching right now wondering if the militant progressive left is going to win over the will of the people who elected their President through our much acclaimed electoral process.
IMHO the liberals lost and they are the ones whining and are trying to change the outcome of the election; and I might add, by any and every means that they can.
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Trump is trying to enact the conservative agenda.
You are welcome to believe that.
I don't.
Trump has demonstrated he has no core Conservative principles he is governed by, and due that fact - he is not going risk losing a fight for something he does not actually believe in.
His only motivation is to be seen as a 'winner'. What that means, I don't know. His vindictive promise to primary Republicans who do not support him is just another in a long string of actions that feed my lack of belief he will do anything he said he would in terms of Conservative principles in governance. You can shout 'Grouch'! until your face is blue. I remain unmoved because I never capitulated to the belief that tilting the SCOTUS was where salvation happens.
If any positive service to Conservative principles happens, I expect it will be largely by accident or in vain effort to placate his base of supporters.
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And, if Trump remains silent does that accomplish anything? The world is watching right now wondering if the militant progressive left is going to win over the will of the people who elected their President through our much acclaimed electoral process.
IMHO the liberals lost and they are the ones whining and are trying to change the outcome of the election; and I might add, by any and every means that they can.
One need only go back to the G.W. Bush administration to see the result of trying to pacify the leftist media. Didn't work out well at all.
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And, if Trump remains silent does that accomplish anything? The world is watching right now wondering if the militant progressive left is going to win over the will of the people who elected their President through our much acclaimed electoral process.
IMHO the liberals lost and they are the ones whining and are trying to change the outcome of the election; and I might add, by any and every means that they can.
What I find stunning and amazing here is.... that so many that loathe Trump are unwilling to even acknowledge this reality and fact. I find it hard to believe that Trump hate could evoke such blindness to the current threat to our future and our nation.
I'm no fan of Trump, but I put what is best for the nation above any and all of that. And as long as he doesn't veer left and start siding with those same leftists that I detest and that threaten our country as founded, I'll stand behind and support him. That means recognizing the threat the left represents right now. And being willing to at least try to combat it.
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You are welcome to believe that.
I don't.
Trump has demonstrated he has no core Conservative principles he is governed by, and due that fact - he is not going risk losing a fight for something he does not actually believe in.
His only motivation is to be seen as a 'winner'. What that means, I don't know. His vindictive promise to primary Republicans who do not support him is just another in a long string of actions that feed my lack of belief he will do anything he said he would in terms of Conservative principles in governance. You can shout 'Grouch'! until your face is blue. I remain unmoved because I never capitulated to the belief that tilting the SCOTUS was where salvation happens.
If any positive service to Conservative principles happens, I expect it will be largely by accident or in vain effort to placate his base of supporters.
You're approach may make you feel vindicated but it won't accomplish anything. It wont move the bar one iota. All it does is alienate people and push them into thinking conservatives are nuts.
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You are welcome to believe that.
I don't.
--firm up national security/defense Reagan
--strengthen our borders campaign promise
--cut taxes for economic growth, jobs Reagan
--Reduce regulations Reagan
--change healthcare campaign promise
--defeat international terrorism campaign promise
--confront DC bureaucracy and special interest lobbies campaign promise
Which parts of that are not conservative?
I doubt you'd be satisfied, even if he read one of your long winded sermons every day.
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And, if Trump remains silent does that accomplish anything? The world is watching right now wondering if the militant progressive left is going to win over the will of the people who elected their President through our much acclaimed electoral process.
IMHO the liberals lost and they are the ones whining and are trying to change the outcome of the election; and I might add, by any and every means that they can.
There are other ways to handle this besides paranoid whining or stone cold silence. Problem is...Trump won't listen to any sound advice.
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Xena, we most certainly see and comprehend what is actually being attempted by the Left and the Establishment Oligarchy. That does not automatically necessitate us jumping into the trenches with the Trump Militant to defend their leader.
We are not blind to the fact that Trump and his people are handing out ammunition to their opposition on a daily basis. They are chucking hand grenades at all their enemies while forgetting to pull the pin.
Whining about it when you are the person providing them the avenues to exploit is the height of incompetence.
Supporting a general who insists on running right up the middle into fortified positions in just his underwear and armed with only a cellphone is not something we plan on sacrificing ourselves for, especially considering we do not know what it is exactly that he is fighting for.
I agree.
I didn't like it when Obama blamed Bush, either.
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--firm up national security/defense Reagan
--strengthen our borders campaign promise
--cut taxes for economic growth, jobs Reagan
--Reduce regulations Reagan
--change healthcare campaign promise
--defeat international terrorism campaign promise
--confront DC bureaucracy and special interest lobbies campaign promise
Which parts of that are not conservative?
I doubt you'd be satisfied, even if he read one of your long winded sermons every day.
You'd be surprised what Ronald Reagan read, and responded to. I think he would have enjoyed the "long winded sermons" you seem to detest.
As a 17 YO, HS senior, I sent Governor Reagan a letter for a civics class. It was not complimentary of the policy to divert water from the Sacramento River to Southern California...in fact, it was a pretty nasty letter accusing him of paying off his contributors.
Lo and behold, I received his answer a few weeks later. Although it has been lost during my many moves since high school, I will never forget his response...it was vintage Reagan, penned by him and not a staffer. The first sentence started with, "Thank your for your letter, NHN. I always enjoy hearing from young people like you, because your bring great passion and energy to your issues."
He then took the remainder of his letter to explain his reasons for the water-diversion policy.
As I grew older, and saw how he conducted himself as President, I was blessed to have been given a small insight to this great man.
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There are other ways to handle this besides paranoid whining or stone cold silence. Problem is...Trump won't listen to any sound advice.
What.... other ways? Please enlighten. ^-^
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There are other ways to handle this besides paranoid whining or stone cold silence. Problem is...Trump won't listen to any sound advice.
He's said on numerous occasions how he's always the smartest guy in the room, that he knows more than the generals do. Obama was like that, too, but he didn't see the need to constantly inform everyone of that "fact."
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What.... other ways? Please enlighten. ^-^
Taking a page from Teddy Roosevelt, he could "tweet softly and carry a big stick." :silly:
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Taking a page from Teddy Roosevelt, he could "tweet softly and carry a big stick." :silly:
Lol! Well....according to Donald, during the primary, he already does (ooops!). :silly: :silly: :silly:
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You're approach may make you feel vindicated but it won't accomplish anything. It wont move the bar one iota. All it does is alienate people and push them into thinking conservatives are nuts.
You mean like being called a 'traitor' by the Trump Faithful because we refuse to get on Trump's propaganda train? That either we support him or we are to be lined up against the wall with the rest of the Left and dealt with - you mean THAT kind of alienation?
If I recall, we have been reminded of late that the principles that I am governed by are no longer principles that can win elections - and so, by that reckoning if adopting principles anathema to mine is where 'winning' is at - I have no intention of helping them move their bar.
They have declared me to be the enemy, and so be it. They can grab support from the moderates and Left .
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--firm up national security/defense Reagan
--strengthen our borders campaign promise
--cut taxes for economic growth, jobs Reagan
--Reduce regulations Reagan
--change healthcare campaign promise
--defeat international terrorism campaign promise
--confront DC bureaucracy and special interest lobbies campaign promise
Which parts of that are not conservative?
Wake me up if Trump actually accomplishes any of that beyond talking point spin.
Last I looked ObamaCare is still there with attempts to make it the GOP's own still continuing rather than getting rid of it ("On day one").
Cutting taxes appears to be off the table with The Great Turtle exclaiming that the debt cannot sustain any tax cuts, and if there are to be any - they must be 'deficit neutral'. How is that Conservative?
Tillersons sign-on of UN Climate change is certainly not going to be reducing any ridiculous energy regulations anytime soon.
Using funds to fix 20 miles of existing fence on the border is not exactly what Trump promised to build.
So, that is just observations for starters. I'm not expecting any of what you wrote to actually make itself manifest beyond rhetoric and sloganeering.
Do rub it in my face if and when any of those things are actually achieved as presented and promised.
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Taking a page from Teddy Roosevelt, he could "tweet softly and carry a big stick. shtick " :silly:
fixed it for you!
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@INVAR
@txradioguy
In his speech to the Coast Guard yesterday, he said this: "Look at the way I've been treated lately," he continued. "Especially by the media. No politician in history — and I say this with great surety — has been treated worse or more unfairly.
He has whined, complained, all his life that he is special among all of history and is treated unfairly more than anyone in history.
He finds fault with every single person as he actually believes no one is perfect like he is. He believes that and that mindset guides him every single day. He IS special in that his mind is screwed up like none other.
Definitely NOT what those graduates wanted to hear from their CINC at their graduation ceremony.
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Lol! Well....according to Donald, during the primary, he already does (ooops!). :silly: :silly: :silly:
****drummer
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Definitely NOT what those graduates wanted to hear from their CINC at their graduation ceremony.
That's because his only association with the military was being shipped off to military school for hitting a music teacher.
(That little factoid made an impression on me. ^-^ )
He's proving daily that he never grew up.
And a child, as we have seen for the past eight years, is not equipped to be President.
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You'd be surprised what Ronald Reagan read, and responded to. I think he would have enjoyed the "long winded sermons" you seem to detest.
As a 17 YO, HS senior, I sent Governor Reagan a letter for a civics class. It was not complimentary of the policy to divert water from the Sacramento River to Southern California...in fact, it was a pretty nasty letter accusing him of paying off his contributors.
Lo and behold, I received his answer a few weeks later. Although it has been lost during my many moves since high school, I will never forget his response...it was vintage Reagan, penned by him and not a staffer. The first sentence started with, "Thank your for your letter, NHN. I always enjoy hearing from young people like you, because your bring great passion and energy to your issues."
He then took the remainder of his letter to explain his reasons for the water-diversion policy.
As I grew older, and saw how he conducted himself as President, I was blessed to have been given a small insight to this great man.
@Night Hides Not
What a great story/memory! Thanks for sharing.
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What.... other ways? Please enlighten. ^-^
I've pointed out ways before to better handle the media. Spicer and others of the WH staff can do off the record backgrounders with certain members of the media to get their message out.
Trump needs to lay off the twitter and stop lobbing grenades at the media...period.
A night time address from the Oval Office talking straight to the people in prime time outlining (without playing the victim card) what he's trying to get done...what the roadblocks have been and what the people can do to help him.
Actually do a couple of things he promised on the campaign trail would be nice.
There are places like the Washington Times, Fox News, Conservative Review where he and his staff can go to in order to talk around the MSM and talk directly to the people.
But first and foremost he needs to grow up and realize he's not on the Apprentice anymore ...he's The President and act like it. He needs to stop thinking he's the smartest person in the room and listen to his staff.
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I've pointed out ways before to better handle the media. Spicer and others of the WH staff can do off the record backgrounders with certain members of the media to get their message out.
Trump needs to lay off the twitter and stop lobbing grenades at the media...period.
A night time address from the Oval Office talking straight to the people in prime time outlining (without playing the victim card) what he's trying to get done...what the roadblocks have been and what the people can do to help him.
Actually do a couple of things he promised on the campaign trail would be nice.
There are places like the Washington Times, Fox News, Conservative Review where he and his staff can go to in order to talk around the MSM and talk directly to the people.
But first and foremost he needs to grow up and realize he's not on the Apprentice anymore ...he's The President and act like it. He needs to stop thinking he's the smartest person in the room and listen to his staff.
Agreed.
He would do himself and his Administration great service by simply refusing to engage in petty warfare with detractors and use avenues to simply persuade the people to his cause to get them on his side in supporting an action by pressuring Congress. He has to explain and sell his ideas and efforts.
That is what Reagan did.
But Trump is no Reagan, not even a shadow.
So I do not expect he will even consider that course of action.
All Trump knows how to do is simply proclaim his ideas the best and demand fealty.
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In his speech to the Coast Guard yesterday, he said this: "Look at the way I've been treated lately," he continued. "Especially by the media. No politician in history — and I say this with great surety — has been treated worse or more unfairly. He has whined, complained, all his life that he is special among all of history and is treated unfairly more than anyone in history.
He finds fault with every single person as he actually believes no one is perfect like he is. He believes that and that mindset guides him every single day. He IS special in that his mind is screwed up like none other.
The President gave a long speech .... and you're either unaware or deliberately ignoring the context of the one quote that is causing your joyful convulsions. Here is the rest of what he said using himself as an example:
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Think of the glorious mission that awaits. You will secure our harbors, our waterways, and our borders. You will partner with our allies to advance our security interests at home and abroad. And you will pursue the terrorists, you will stop the drug smugglers, and you will seek to keep out all who would do harm to our country -- all who can never, ever love our country. Together, we have the same mission, and your devotion and dedication makes me truly proud to be your Commander-in-Chief. (Applause.) Thank you.
Now, I want to take this opportunity to give you some advice. Over the course of your life, you will find that things are not always fair. You will find that things happen to you that you do not deserve and that are not always warranted. But you have to put your head down and fight, fight, fight. Never, ever, ever give up. Things will work out just fine.
Look at the way I’ve been treated lately -- (laughter) -- especially by the media. No politician in history -- and I say this with great surety -- has been treated worse or more unfairly. You can’t let them get you down. You can’t let the critics and the naysayers get in the way of your dreams. (Applause.) I guess that’s why I -- thank you. I guess that’s why we won.
Adversity makes you stronger. Don’t give in. Don’t back down. And never stop doing what you know is right. Nothing worth doing ever, ever, ever came easy. And the more righteous your right, the more opposition you will face.
More: https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/05/17/remarks-president-trump-united-states-coast-guard-academy-commencement
@INVAR
@txradioguy
@Night Hides Not
@geronl
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fixed it for you!
Awesome...thanks!
I see a bumper sticker in there... :silly:
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"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally - not a 20 percent traitor.
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Trump is more on the 20% side than the 80% side.
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Trump is more on the 20% side than the 80% side.
:amen:
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The President gave a long speech .... and you're either unaware or deliberately ignoring the context of the one quote that is causing your joyful convulsions. Here is the rest of what he said using himself as an example:
@INVAR
@txradioguy
@Night Hides Not
No one's lying the quote wasn't taken out of context.
But thanks for providing the whole thing...having someone who hangs on his every word is useful in times like this.
The expanded quote just shows even more how no matter where he's at and who he is speaking to...like Barry he has the attitude of "It's all about me".
Oh and he needs to take his own advice about adversity making one stronger. That bit of advice seems to ring hollow given the fact he's turned around and whinged about being the victim of a witch hunt and complaining endlessly about how unfairly he's being treated.
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The President gave a long speech .... and you're either unaware or deliberately ignoring the context of the one quote that is causing your joyful convulsions. Here is the rest of what he said using himself as an example:
@INVAR
@txradioguy
@Night Hides Not
That doesn't support the narrative of Trump being a whiner @Right_in_Virginia . You are a thread killer. :nono:
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Think of the glorious mission that awaits. You will secure our harbors, our waterways, and our borders.
I have a "glorious mission" for someone near Trump, though it might need to be assigned to the "Impossible Missions Force" (Cinnamon (Barbara Bain) was always my favorite): to secure Trump's twitter account, from POTUS.
Has it been useful to moving Trump's/the Nation's agenda along?
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Trump is more on the 20% side than the 80% side.
Doesn't that depend on what day it is?
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@Right_in_Virginia . You are a thread killer. :nono:
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Personally I never killed a thread that did not need killing..... but riv seems to take a random approach to it! :silly:
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The President gave a long speech .... and you're either unaware or deliberately ignoring the context of the one quote that is causing your joyful convulsions. Here is the rest of what he said using himself as an example:
It still does not assuage the perception he created.
A Statesman would have said something along the lines of:
"You will find that things happen to you that you do not deserve and that are not always warranted. But you have to put your head down and fight, fight, fight. Never, ever, ever give up. Things will work out just fine.
"I mean, just take a look at how much respect my Administration has been afforded by the mainstream media right now. Adversity makes you stronger. Don’t give in. Don’t back down. ..."
Instead he made it about himself and once again lauded his 'win'.
Notwithstanding his Tweet about being a victim of "the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!”
No ma'am. Admitting he is a victim is whining. His speech yesterday that included a shade of his tweet does not impress. I do not care how anyone wants to spin it.
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No one's lying the quote wasn't taken out of context.
Of course you took it out of context @txradioguy .... as you do everything that's reported. It's the only way you can keep your hate alive. :shrug:
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Of course you took it out of context @txradioguy .... as you do everything that's reported. It's the only way you can keep your hate alive. :shrug:
Do you even know what "out of context" means?
Go look up the term...then get back to me and show me where it was taken out of context.
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It still does not assuage the perception he created.
Please, spare us your upcoming dissertation on how it is immoral and unbiblical to "fight, fight, fight and never, ever, ever give up".
@INVAR
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This was going to happen regardless of whomever in the GOP won the election. We have devolved into a Socialist Democracy with the help of presidents, the Courts and Congress. The majority of the population has no use or want of a limited government - and the GOP has demonstrated they have no intention of limiting it either - only expanding it. This crossroads was going to come because the GOP has placated the Left time and again. 2000 was just the first foreshadowing of what we have arrived at. The Left thinks they own the right to rule, and the GOP has accommodated that belief by acquiescing to it.
That does not impel me to abandon my judgment regarding Trump or his mobs of supporters that want payback.
I'm somewhat ambivalent to Trump, though less so than I was Obama. I know what Trump is, and I do not expect any service to foundational principles that undergird Conservatism unless it happens by accident. The difference is I do not see Trump as hostile in intention to my liberties as it was under Obama. However, I spend most of my time shaking my head in incredulity as the sheer stupidity and petulance being displayed via his uncontrollable thumbs.
My assertive issues are largely centered over the reaction to any criticism of Trump by his faithful, because that cuts into my liberty should some of them get their way. Shaming or attempting to silence criticism via accusations of treason deserves the level of push back being devoted, and it makes those engaged in such efforts no different than those they claim to oppose. The allegory of noting the similarities of Communists versus Brownshirts back in the Weimar days is not without merit.
That said, Trump is his own worst enemy and he does himself absolutely no favors, and I have no faith that Trump is going to right this ship - because it is not in his character to do so.
I will enjoy being surprised if it does happen. And I will admit in advance that it will happen without any assistance from me.
For all of George W. Bush's virtues as a leader, I think he erred greatly in not fighting against the media narrative - and Karl Rove admits this. Trump, for all his faults, is willing to fight the media narrative. Given that the media and the Democrats are carrying out a slow-motion putsch... I'll stick by him.
No, it's not about conservative or liberal. It's now about something bigger than conservatism - it is about the Constitution. Do we still have one, or is it a dead letter when it gets in the way of the "progressive" Left's desires?
Since November 9, the Left has been trying to overturn the results of the election. That must not succeed if we are to have a country left. There is a time and place to debate the wisdom of standing by Trump or nominating him. That will be the 2024 Presidential primaries.
But I'd like those 2024 primaries to be in a country still run by the Constitution, NOT the whims of Tom Perez or the Berkeley Brownshirts and the New York Times editorial board.
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That doesn't support the narrative of Trump being a whiner @Right_in_Virginia . You are a thread killer. :nono:
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I do what I can. :laugh:
@anubias
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Please, spare us your upcoming dissertation on how it is immoral and unbiblical to "fight, fight, fight and never, ever, ever give up".
@INVAR
Oh no, I'm not one of those.
I'm all about fighting.
Especially for those things that the Trump faithful have been declared to be foolish, silly, stupid, wrong, intolerant, selfish, unwinnable, archaic, wrongheaded, theocratic and dumb as they pertain to foundational principles and biblical morality that apparently a lot of Trump's followers online have no use for.
But as for Trump here - well, he isn't fighting.
He was whining, given the narrative that Trump himself established yesterday beginning with his tweet about his being a victim of a witch hunt and yesterday's commencement address.
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For all of George W. Bush's virtues as a leader, I think he erred greatly in not fighting against the media narrative - and Karl Rove admits this. Trump, for all his faults, is willing to fight the media narrative. Given that the media and the Democrats are carrying out a slow-motion putsch... I'll stick by him.
No, it's not about conservative or liberal. It's now about something bigger than conservatism - it is about the Constitution. Do we still have one, or is it a dead letter when it gets in the way of the "progressive" Left's desires?
Since November 9, the Left has been trying to overturn the results of the election. That must not succeed if we are to have a country left. There is a time and place to debate the wisdom of standing by Trump or nominating him. That will be the 2024 Presidential primaries.
But I'd like those 2024 primaries to be in a country still run by the Constitution, NOT the whims of Tom Perez or the Berkeley Brownshirts and the New York Times editorial board.
Fully realizing who Trump is since before the primaries and having (for the first time in my life) given a significant amount of money to a campaign, Ted Cruz's, personally I will never lift a finger or utter a single word here or anywhere else if I thought it would encourage, support or otherwise help the establishment, Deep State or whatever you want to call it, overthrow the results of the past election.
My contempt for it far far surpasses anything animosity I have for Donald Trump. Trump may be a self obsessed buffoon or whatever, but he's not trying to enslave me, or dead set on policies that endanger my safety nor the well being of me and my family.
But its clear others don't have as strong a sense of contempt for the ruling elite as some of us do.
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Is he wrong? I've never seen anything like it. It's a full-fledged sabotage from the DNC, the MSM, and most disgustingly, traitorous RINOs.
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For all of George W. Bush's virtues as a leader, I think he erred greatly in not fighting against the media narrative - and Karl Rove admits this. Trump, for all his faults, is willing to fight the media narrative. Given that the media and the Democrats are carrying out a slow-motion putsch... I'll stick by him.
I have no problem fighting the media - most of us do it on nearly a full time basis on forums and social media. But Trump is supposed to be The Statesman of the country - and petty alleyway brawls is not becoming of a leader who is supposed to lead and steer a nation's virtue and appearance before the world.
No, it's not about conservative or liberal. It's now about something bigger than conservatism - it is about the Constitution. Do we still have one, or is it a dead letter when it gets in the way of the "progressive" Left's desires?
Ask the GOP that question. They are just as complicit. They certainly pay it lip service while doing nothing to preserve, defend and protect it from what the Left has done to it. Considering their own desire to grow government, I do not think they have anymore loyalty to limited government as prescribed than the Left does.
Since November 9, the Left has been trying to overturn the results of the election. That must not succeed if we are to have a country left. There is a time and place to debate the wisdom of standing by Trump or nominating him. That will be the 2024 Presidential primaries.
No, no no, no. I never bought the lie that we had to vote for Trump if we were to have a country left. I do not buy the lie that we must stand behind Trump if we are to have a country left. I do not buy the lie that we must wait until 2024 before debating or rendering judgment on the fruits of whether or not Trump has served in the interests of liberty and the Constitution.
That is a dangerous trap I will not walk into.
Salvation for the country does not rest in fealty to a man or a party.
We are either governed by foundational principles in the fear of The Lord, or we will be ruled by the tyranny of men.
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Is he wrong? I've never seen anything like it. It's a full-fledged sabotage from the DNC, the MSM, and most disgustingly, traitorous RINOs.
The President is not wrong @LetsTalk
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Is he wrong? I've never seen anything like it. It's a full-fledged sabotage from the DNC, the MSM, and most disgustingly, traitorous RINOs.
No he's not. Maybe could have said it better, then again the media sounds like may have taken it out of context. But the kernel of truth is there.
I didn't vote for Trump and am not his biggest fan, but if he's sticking the knife in the liberals eye at any time, I'm going to cheer him on unless it's a genuinely bad tactical move to do so.
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No, it's not about conservative or liberal. It's now about something bigger than conservatism - it is about the Constitution. Do we still have one, or is it a dead letter when it gets in the way of the "progressive" Left's desires?
Since November 9, the Left has been trying to overturn the results of the election. That must not succeed if we are to have a country left. There is a time and place to debate the wisdom of standing by Trump or nominating him. That will be the 2024 Presidential primaries.
But I'd like those 2024 primaries to be in a country still run by the Constitution, NOT the whims of Tom Perez or the Berkeley Brownshirts and the New York Times editorial board.
My sentiments exactly. Trump's not the issue - the foundation upon which our Republic rests is at stake. For over 200 years, we have seen a peaceful transition of power girded by respect for the will of the people as expressed in free and fair elections. There's plenty to criticize about Donald Trump - but his enemies are the enemies of the nation.
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For all of George W. Bush's virtues as a leader, I think he erred greatly in not fighting against the media narrative - and Karl Rove admits this. Trump, for all his faults, is willing to fight the media narrative.
By whining like a sissy.
No, it's not about conservative or liberal. It's now about something bigger than conservatism - it is about the Constitution. Do we still have one, or is it a dead letter when it gets in the way of the "progressive" Left's desires?
That's where many fervent Trumpists agree with the left, actually. They want Trump as dictator.
Since November 9, the Left has been trying to overturn the results of the election.
Whatever, they can't. It's time and energy wasted. Let them waste it. Trump is the only thing that can bring down Trump.
There is a time and place to debate the wisdom of standing by Trump or nominating him. That will be the 2024 Presidential primaries.
No, it's not. First off, there is 2018, 2020, 2022. Second, we can debate it every time Trump does and says really idiotic things, hourly.
But I'd like those 2024 primaries to be in a country still run by the Constitution, NOT the whims of Tom Perez or the Berkeley Brownshirts and the New York Times editorial board.
The media doesn't run the country. I guess it's a convenient hate target for the Trumpers, though.
All I know is that I have never and will never respect the perv and I will never support him.
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There's plenty to criticize about Donald Trump - but his enemies are the enemies of the nation.
lol. He and they are close to identical.
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The media doesn't run the country.
The pretty much do. For years i've been trying to make people aware of just how much the Media manipulates elections by the way they present the "news" to the public.
As Peter Jennings once said. "We don't tell people what to think, we tell them what to think about."
Same thing in the long run.
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I will never lift a finger or utter a single word here or anywhere else if I thought it would encourage, support or otherwise help the establishment, Deep State or whatever you want to call it, overthrow the results of the past election.
My contempt for it far far surpasses anything animosity I have for Donald Trump. Trump may be a self obsessed buffoon or whatever, but he's not trying to enslave me, or dead set on policies that endanger my safety nor the well being of me and my family.
This is my thinking too.
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No, no no, no. I never bought the lie that we had to vote for Trump if we were to have a country left. I do not buy the lie that we must stand behind Trump if we are to have a country left. I do not buy the lie that we must wait until 2024 before debating or rendering judgment on the fruits of whether or not Trump has served in the interests of liberty and the Constitution.
That is a dangerous trap I will not walk into.
Salvation for the country does not rest in fealty to a man or a party.
We are either governed by foundational principles in the fear of The Lord, or we will be ruled by the tyranny of men.
Those foundational principles ARE already under attack by the Left, who seek to impose the tyranny you claim to feat. What do you think the recounts were? Or the efforts to get the electoral college members to not vote Trump?
Have you not been watching what the Left is doing?
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Fully realizing who Trump is since before the primaries and having (for the first time in my life) given a significant amount of money to a campaign, Ted Cruz's, personally I will never lift a finger or utter a single word here or anywhere else if I thought it would encourage, support or otherwise help the establishment, Deep State or whatever you want to call it, overthrow the results of the past election.
My contempt for it far far surpasses anything animosity I have for Donald Trump. Trump may be a self obsessed buffoon or whatever, but he's not trying to enslave me, or dead set on policies that endanger my safety nor the well being of me and my family.
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Well said!
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My sentiments exactly. Trump's not the issue - the foundation upon which our Republic rests is at stake. For over 200 years, we have seen a peaceful transition of power girded by respect for the will of the people as expressed in free and fair elections. There's plenty to criticize about Donald Trump - but his enemies are the enemies of the nation.
I believe this is by far the best post I have ever seen you make @Jazzhead :flag:
God bless you for it. :whistle:
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I believe this is by far the best post I have ever seen you make @Jazzhead :flag:
God bless you for it. :whistle:
Blind skwerl. Nut.
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the foundation upon which our Republic rests is at stake.
Absolutely right, but you are not going to fix it with a NY liberal, crony capitalism, and national socialism.
There's plenty to criticize about Donald Trump - but his enemies are the enemies of the nation.
LOL! It would be hard to find a more disliked figure. He has pissed off absolutely everyone.
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Absolutely right, but you are not going to fix it with a NY liberal, crony capitalism, and national socialism.
LOL! It would be hard to find a more disliked figure. He has pissed off absolutely everyone.
God works in mysterious ways. He can use anyone.
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Those foundational principles ARE already under attack by the Left, who seek to impose the tyranny you claim to feat. What do you think the recounts were? Or the efforts to get the electoral college members to not vote Trump?
Have you not been watching what the Left is doing?
Your position wholly ignores that 'the Left' includes all but a handful of the GOP and Trump himself.
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God works in mysterious ways. He can use anyone.
Be careful what you wish for.
At the point at which a people no longer can be even remotely considered to be keeping His commandments, His 'use of anyone' can be a painful thing.
I would humbly assert that one should pray harder for national repentance before expecting the Hand of YHWH to move things in a more beneficial direction.
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God can use anyone, this is true. My question is : In what way is he using Trump? Is Trump our punishment from God?
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Perspective, fer cryin out loud.
@Sanguine
@DiogenesLamp
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Be careful what you wish for.
At the point at which a people no longer can be even remotely considered to be keeping His commandments, His 'use of anyone' can be a painful thing.
I would humbly assert that one should pray harder for national repentance before expecting the Hand of YHWH to move things in a more beneficial direction.
Explicitly true Roamer, but this people do not want to hear that.
They have invested all their hopes, faith and possible solutions into men and their corrupted institutions.
Which guarantees they will never achieve what they think they want to accomplish and will select worse, and worse people of character to carry their torch for them as something just a little better than the other thing that they find worse.
And people wonder how it is we have slid so far Left that even Republicans are spouting Leftist talking points?
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God can use anyone, this is true. My question is : In what way is he using Trump? Is Trump our punishment from God?
God has always given His wayward people who have rejected Him for what they desire.
God takes Ownership, but the punishment itself is always self-inflicted.
God is not going to save us from the consequences we have sown for ourselves, especially when the solutions being sought do not involve Him, repentance or even shame for what we have done.
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Explicitly true Roamer, but this people do not want to hear that.
They have invested all their hopes, faith and possible solutions into men and their corrupted institutions.
Which guarantees they will never achieve what they think they want to accomplish and will select worse, and worse people of character to carry their torch for them as something just a little better than the other thing that they find worse.
And people wonder how it is we have slid so far Left that even Republicans are spouting Leftist talking points?
Yep. America has a trip to the woodshed in her near future...
The only thing in my experience that might just stop the old man when that time has come, is truthful confession, utter and honest repentance, and a promise to adhere to what the old man told you...
Probably you will go to the woodshed anyway, but the whippin' you deserve will have some mercy.
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I believe this is by far the best post I have ever seen you make @Jazzhead :flag:
God bless you for it. :whistle:
You praise him now...but wait til you see his less than Conservative stances on abortion...Obamacare and the 2nd Amendment.
You won't be so quick to sing his praises.
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Is he wrong? I've never seen anything like it. It's a full-fledged sabotage from the DNC, the MSM, and most disgustingly, traitorous RINOs.
@LetsTalk
You forgot Trump himself, who steps on his...necktie every time he turns around and seems to thrive on the resulting chaos and drama.
Trump supporters would serve the country, and the president, better if they would stop enabling his behavior.
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@LetsTalk
You forgot Trump himself, who steps on his...necktie every time he turns around and seems to thrive on the resulting chaos and drama.
Trump supporters would serve the country, and the president, better if they would stop enabling his behavior.
@CatherineofAragon I don't think so much that they enable it so much as they revel in it.
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They ain't hunting witches, they hunting whiny _____
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Let me see ... believe Trump ... or believe the DEMS, RINO's and MSM?? Nope, not 100% sure, but I'll take the odds with Trump.
@libertybele
I don't trust the media, the left, or Trump.
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what with their pipsqueak 3rd party vanity choices
@truth_seeker
Honestly, it fascinates me that you're still this angry and bitter that people didn't vote the way you deemed appropriate.
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You praise him now...but wait til you see his less than Conservative stances on abortion...Obamacare and the 2nd Amendment.
You won't be so quick to sing his praises.
Guess I should have put a sarcasm tag on the post. I thought the :whistle: would have been enough.
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@corbe
@CatherineofAragon
Yep...Case in point: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?action=profile;u=116605
@Wingnut
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@Wingnut
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Filling in the lies since joining.
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Lol! Well....according to Donald, during the primary, he already does (ooops!). :silly: :silly: :silly:
@XenaLee
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Be careful what you wish for.
At the point at which a people no longer can be even remotely considered to be keeping His commandments, His 'use of anyone' can be a painful thing.
I would humbly assert that one should pray harder for national repentance before expecting the Hand of YHWH to move things in a more beneficial direction.
@roamer_1
Precisely.
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@CatherineofAragon I don't think so much that they enable it so much as they revel in it.
@txradioguy
They're not doing him any favors.
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@txradioguy
They're not doing him any favors.
Appropriate:
https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=charlie+brown+the+coasters&fr=iphone&.tsrc=apple&pcarrier=AT&T&pmcc=310&pmnc=410
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Trump cancels Trip to Vatican when told he can't land on a Saint!
Trump cancels Trip to Circus when told he can't land on elephant!
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God has always given His wayward people who have rejected Him for what they desire.
God takes Ownership, but the punishment itself is always self-inflicted.
God is not going to save us from the consequences we have sown for ourselves, especially when the solutions being sought do not involve Him, repentance or even shame for what we have done.
QFT
THANK you!
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You praise him now...but wait til you see his less than Conservative stances on abortion...Obamacare and the 2nd Amendment.
You won't be so quick to sing his praises.
That keyboard brings out your bitchiness, doesn't it? For the record, I oppose abortion, want to fix Obamacare and want you to have all the guns you want.
Thanks for the props, anubias. I appreciate it. Some of us are liberal, some conservative, some pragmatic, some ideologically pure. A lot of us are long time Republicans who voted our consciences last November. We all fight in good faith to win elections and try to fix the place we call home. We respect the results - the will of the nation. When our good faith is shattered by those who would take what is not rightfully theirs, then I say Trump is worth defending because of the mendacity of his enemies.
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That keyboard brings out your bitchiness, doesn't it? For the record, I oppose abortion, want to fix Obamacare and want you to have all the guns you want.
Thanks for the props, anubias. I appreciate it. Some of us are liberal, some conservative, some pragmatic, some ideologically pure. A lot of us are long time Republicans who voted our consciences last November. We all fight in good faith to win elections and try to fix the place we call home. We respect the results - the will of the nation. When our good faith is shattered by those who would take what is not rightfully theirs, then I say Trump is worth defending because of the mendacity of his enemies.
You're just an idiot.
That's what the keyboard brings out in you.
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For the record, I oppose abortion...
That is beyond hilarious coming from someone who has consistently argued for 'choice' and stated that closing abortion clinics is the government forcing a woman to procreate.
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You're just an idiot.
That's what the keyboard brings out in you.
:word: :da man:
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That is beyond hilarious coming from someone who has consistently argued for 'choice' and stated that closing abortion clinics is the government forcing a woman to procreate.
That god-damned Constitution, INVAR; wish you gave a spit about it.
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:word: :da man:
:seeya: Yo, girls!
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:seeya: Yo, girls!
It is sad. You don't know whether you're shot, f*ked, snake-bit or powder-burned!
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That god-damned Constitution, INVAR; wish you gave a spit about it.
Yeah, where exactly in the Constitution as ratified are Abortion Rights located? I cannot seem to find that word and practice in there anywhere.
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Sorry, Trump did this to himself... I remember in how we mocked Hillary for saying there was a Conspiracy to take down her husband.. Also, a tough guy like Trump shouldn't be claiming victimhood....
Trump is imperfect and not the perfect conservative however has pushed a mixed agenda between very conservative positions and middle road.
Got it we understand you are in the coup camp with the liberals. Furthermore defending a banana republic. Thanks for making that point abundantly clear
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Bully for you. I'm just pointing out that your comparison with Hillary's conspiracy whining is BS.
It is BS because SHE was proven to have committed a crime in national TV with overwhelming evidence. Trump OTOH has had no evidence produced showing his guilt. I'd be cloaking my case to the public as well.
I'm wondering if the one who posted this if placed in the same position wouldn't be protesting his innocence as well? Don't think he'd whine? Naaaaaaa
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Got it we understand you are in the coup camp with the liberals.
pathetic. Keep living in that ever shrinking bubble universe if you want, but it's going to pop eventually.
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Well put...., I'd just hope he can cleanly hand over the reins to Pence in a clean and clear method that keeps the power base intact..... And denies the dims political capital in the process.
Hand over the reigns? You're kidding right? Based on what crime exactly? The democrats are already going to sweep mid terms and not because of the President but because of a spineless and feckless GOP Congress who doesn't know how to fight!
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Trump is imperfect and not the perfect conservative however has pushed a mixed agenda between very conservative positions and middle road.
Got it we understand you are in the coup camp with the liberals. Furthermore defending a banana republic. Thanks for making that point abundantly clear
If us Conservatives wanted Middle of the Road we would have gotten behind jeb! or 13 other people besides the Orange One, an unknown, politically to some of you still Hoping for Change in DC.
You elected him @Jarhead he's your problem.
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I'm a victim! Yeah, I'mma victim! The bigliest victim ever there was!
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pathetic. Keep living in that ever shrinking bubble universe if you want, but it's going to pop eventually.
So you're saying based on his comment and stance he has chosen to take (which is supporting the continual trashing of our President) he isn't in the coup camp? I'm sorry I must have mistaken the apparent dislike of our President and a feeble attempt of drawing comparison to Hillary and unindicted felon all wrong
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If us Conservatives wanted Middle of the Road we would have gotten behind jeb! or 13 other people besides the Orange One, an unknown, politically to some of you still Hoping for Change in DC.
You elected him @Jarhead he's your problem.
Yes and proudly AFTER the primaries decided it. And who was your horse? Mine was Cruz but Cruz failed to bring it home. He too had liberal positions and leanings. He too isn't perfect. Sorry no one is
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Hand over the reigns? You're kidding right? Based on what crime exactly? The democrats are already going to sweep mid terms and not because of the President but because of a spineless and feckless GOP Congress who doesn't know how to fight!
Historically the opposition party always wins the first Mid Terms but if it's a bloodbath, I'll agree with you @Jarhead - It's because Sen. Cruz didn't campaign enough.
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Hand over the reigns? You're kidding right? Based on what crime exactly? The democrats are already going to sweep mid terms and not because of the President but because of a spineless and feckless GOP Congress who doesn't know how to fight!
The major news networks are already starting to run stories on Pence's 'connections' to this Russia farce. It is the epitome of naivete' to believe this will all blow over if Trump steps down. The GOP needs to fight this now.
Kinda reminds me of the movie Sand Pebbles when Richard Crenna's character tells Steve McQueen's character that his only value is as a symbol of his country.
Don't ask me why cause I'm not sure. It just does.
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If us Conservatives wanted Middle of the Road we would have gotten behind jeb! or 13 other people besides the Orange One, an unknown, politically to some of you still Hoping for Change in DC.
You elected him @Jarhead he's your problem.
No sir! Now that he has been elected he is OUR problem as well!
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Historically the opposition party always wins the first Mid Terms but if it's a bloodbath, I'll agree with you @Jarhead - It's because Sen. Cruz didn't campaign enough.
Cruz worked his tail off and I fully admire and commend him and was willing to forgive his stance on expansion of H1B foreign workers to continue eroding the profession I've staked a career in. See I make it about policy and thus far Trumps policies by and large have been conservative and yes some liberal I yell about. However I'll not support a coup of a duly elected President. I gave 5 years of my life to this country to not see a coup of this sort.
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That keyboard brings out your bitchiness, doesn't it? For the record, I oppose abortion, want to fix Obamacare and want you to have all the guns you want.
Thanks for the props, anubias. I appreciate it. Some of us are liberal, some conservative, some pragmatic, some ideologically pure. A lot of us are long time Republicans who voted our consciences last November. We all fight in good faith to win elections and try to fix the place we call home. We respect the results - the will of the nation. When our good faith is shattered by those who would take what is not rightfully theirs, then I say Trump is worth defending because of the mendacity of his enemies.
You're welcome JazzHead. I was pleasantly surprised considering the way most people feel here. I am also glad to hear that you are more Conservative than I had supposed. :)
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Yes and proudly AFTER the primaries decided it. And who was your horse? Mine was Cruz but Cruz failed to bring it home. He too had liberal positions and leanings. He too isn't perfect. Sorry no one is
The thing that really stretches my Politically warped mind @Jarhead Is all this phenomenal Cruz support that has shown up recently, your party, the one you just stole so easily is yours, I wish you the best of Luck, US 'perfectionist' will stand by the Constitutional Republic and protect it while yall go play with populism, again. Been there, Got the TShirt.
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Historically the opposition party always wins the first Mid Terms but if it's a bloodbath, I'll agree with you @Jarhead - It's because Sen. Cruz didn't campaign enough.
I greatly admire Cruz even though he supported an enormous growth of H1B theeeby further killing the career I've staked a claim to. But I also didn't give ( years of my life to this country to quietly watch and passively support the attempted coup hapoeneing right in front of us. Hell the attempt is no longer even being hidden.
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My sentiments exactly. Trump's not the issue - the foundation upon which our Republic rests is at stake. For over 200 years, we have seen a peaceful transition of power girded by respect for the will of the people as expressed in free and fair elections. There's plenty to criticize about Donald Trump - but his enemies are the enemies of the nation.
Excellent!
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The thing that really stretches my Politically warped mind @Jarhead Is all this phenomenal Cruz support that has shown up recently, your party, the one you just stole so easily is yours, I wish you the best of Luck, US 'perfectionist' will stand by the Constitutional Republic and protect it while yall go play with populism, again. Been there, Got the TShirt.
I still support Cruz knowing HE AS WELL has taken globalist positions. Again I have no litmus test but I'd have supported Cruz as feverently as I do Trump because Cruz would not have fared any better today. The same feckless Congress would be behind him as well and the same media would be conjuring up the same exact scandal
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The thing that really stretches my Politically warped mind @Jarhead Is all this phenomenal Cruz support that has shown up recently, your party, the one you just stole so easily is yours, I wish you the best of Luck, US 'perfectionist' will stand by the Constitutional Republic and protect it while yall go play with populism, again. Been there, Got the TShirt.
"US 'perfectionist' will stand by the Constitutional Republic and protect it while yall go play with populism, again."
I'm sorry but I did mention I gave 5 years of my life to defend this country right? I figured the name would be a dead giveaway.
See I HAVE BEEN THERE. And I can say I do have the t shirt that defended this Constitutional republic because unlike most I swore to defend it.
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Got it we understand you are in the coup camp with the liberals. Furthermore defending a banana republic. Thanks for making that point abundantly clear
You got all that out of Kevin's remembrance that we mocked Hillary for saying there was a Conspiracy to take down BillyJeff and that a tough guy like Trump shouldn't be claiming victimhood.... somehow that equates he has joined the coup with the Left??
You people certainly know how to run off any potential allies.
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No sir! Now that he has been elected he is OUR problem as well!
@Bigun He is OUR President and he needs to figure out a way to cut all this Drama, stop the Leaks, stop stepping on your d1ck all the time, I've seen it done before in early Administrations, maybe, just maybe, not saying I tiold you so, but Trump ain't ready for Prime Time.
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The major news networks are already starting to run stories on Pence's 'connections' to this Russia farce. It is the epitome of naivete' to believe this will all blow over if Trump steps down. The GOP needs to fight this now.
Kinda reminds me of the movie Sand Pebbles when Richard Crenna's character tells Steve McQueen's character that his only value is as a symbol of his country.
Don't ask me why cause I'm not sure. It just does.
I don't expect anything different. They think they're empowered as they won by getting the Special Counsel. They won't stop until they get what they want and Pence as POTUS ain't it.
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So you're saying based on his comment and stance he has chosen to take
that anyone who has the slightest doubt that Trump is Bubbalicious is a liberal Democrat traitor to his species...
yes! Yes, I am. :tongue2:
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You got all that out of Kevin's remembrance that we mocked Hillary for saying there was a Conspiracy to take down BillyJeff and that a tough guy like Trump shouldn't be claiming victimhood.... somehow that equates he has joined the coup with the Left??
You people certainly know how to run off any potential allies.
Absolutely yes! Who in their right mind would ever compare the rambling of a proven unindicted felon whose case of guilt was presented before millions in front of live TV to Trump making a case before the people concerning a case of innuendo and an attempt to overthrow a Constitutionally elected president? That is supposed to be funny? Making the comparison and calling him out as playing victim hood? I'm sorry I didn't laugh because the seriousness of this coup attempt is no laughing matter
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My sentiments exactly. Trump's not the issue - the foundation upon which our Republic rests is at stake. For over 200 years, we have seen a peaceful transition of power girded by respect for the will of the people as expressed in free and fair elections. There's plenty to criticize about Donald Trump - but his enemies are the enemies of the nation.
He defeated one of our biggest enemies at the polls and now she will stop at nothing to destroy him.
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He defeated one of our biggest enemies at the polls and now she will stop at nothing to destroy him.
She has supporters willing to destroy him in the blogosphere as well.
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"US 'perfectionist' will stand by the Constitutional Republic and protect it while yall go play with populism, again."
I'm sorry but I did mention I gave 5 years of my life to defend this country right? I figured the name would be a dead giveaway.
See I HAVE BEEN THERE. And I can say I do have the t shirt that defended this Constitutional republic because unlike most I swore to defend it.
NO you didn't mention that @Jarhead, but it was obvious by your name, There are a lot of Veterans on this Board, stretching back to the Vietnam Era, Some are even still Active, but that doesn't give anyone a Blank Check on their political philosophy, not Here.
We all took the same Oath, some of US meant it when we repeated those sacred words and I'm not saying you didn't but I'll quote Dylan here:
Patriotism, Trumpism is the Last Refuge.
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She has supporters willing to destroy him in the blogosphere as well.
So what? How pointless would that be?
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He defeated one of our biggest enemies at the polls and now she will stop at nothing to destroy him.
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Absolutely yes! Who in their right mind would ever compare the rambling of a proven unindicted felon whose case of guilt was presented before millions in front of live TV to Trump making a case before the people concerning a case of innuendo and an attempt to overthrow a Constitutionally elected president? That is supposed to be funny? Making the comparison and calling him out as playing victim hood? I'm sorry I didn't laugh because the seriousness of this coup attempt is no laughing matter
And some of you wonder why it is that some of us want nothing to do with the Trump movement.
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So you're saying based on his comment and stance he has chosen to take (which is supporting the continual trashing of our President) he isn't in the coup camp? I'm sorry I must have mistaken the apparent dislike of our President and a feeble attempt of drawing comparison to Hillary and unindicted felon all wrong
@Jarhead
On this forum, we don't call each other liberals or accuse each other of being aligned with them because of a difference of opinion.
Trump is a public servant. An employee. He's not a king. As such, it's perfectly fine to dislike him or to criticize him if one sees fit.
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I greatly admire Cruz even though he supported an enormous growth of H1B theeeby further killing the career I've staked a claim to.
Total bullcrap.
But I also didn't give ( years of my life to this country to quietly watch and passively support the attempted coup hapoeneing right in front of us. Hell the attempt is no longer even being hidden.
Wouldn't be so vulnerable if he had an entire party standing with him. Too bad he didn't think of that before he shattered it.
My GiveADamn's busted.
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@truth_seeker
Honestly, it fascinates me that you're still this angry and bitter that people didn't vote the way you deemed appropriate.
It fascinates me that you take such great interest in what you assume is my state of mind.
I am happy that the more conservative choice won. I am fascinated however, that folks who claim to be conservative, seem to not get that. If you interpret that as "angry and bitter," you might want to recalibrate your intuition, instinct, mind reading settings.
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It fascinates me that you take such great interest in what you assume is my state of mind.
Trumpers burned those bridges and those who got burned don't want to come back.
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Total bullcrap.
Wouldn't be so vulnerable if he had an entire party standing with him. Too bad he didn't think of that before he shattered it.
My GiveADamn's busted.
You simply just have to look up Cruz and H1B and find your answer. That is well known. Just because we don't like it doesn't make it true
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@Jarhead
On this forum, we don't call each other liberals or accuse each other of being aligned with them because of a difference of opinion.
Trump is a public servant. An employee. He's not a king. As such, it's perfectly fine to dislike him or to criticize him if one sees fit.
It's ok to have different policy opinion. Hell I have my own differing opinions on some of his policies and I'll be the first to take him to task (i.e trade policy, Israel, daycare). It is entirely different to actively malign and trash the man and also quote known fake news outlets to build your case or even agree with removal of the President as our enemies are actively doing daily.
If the shoe fits
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And some of you wonder why it is that some of us want nothing to do with the Trump movement.
What I said there is more than just the Trump movement. Everyone should be very concerned about what is going on. This is much bigger than just Trump.
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You simply just have to look up Cruz and H1B and find your answer. That is well known. Just because we don't like it doesn't make it true
That was debunked long ago. It was a poison pill amendment to the Gang of 8 amnesty that helped sink amnesty.
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That god-damned Constitution, INVAR; wish you gave a spit about it.
Where is that in the Constitution?
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That was debunked long ago. It was a poison pill amendment to the Gang of 8 amnesty that helped sink amnesty.
Seems like the nOOb doesn't have a problem with so called "fake news" if it fits what he wants to believe.
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Seems like the nOOb doesn't have a problem with so called "fake news" if it fits what he wants to believe.
In that particular case Meagan Kelly actually apologized to Ted Cruz for running with the Trumper lie.
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Seems like the nOOb doesn't have a problem with so called "fake news" if it fits what he wants to believe.
Lol the perverbial noob slight to malign or discredit the message. Got any new material?
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Lol the perverbial noob slight to malign or discredit the message. Got any new material?
Why should I waste anything g new on someone who only deals in debunked bull?
You get what you deserve nOOb.
Or would you prefer FNG?
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That was debunked long ago. It was a poison pill amendment to the Gang of 8 amnesty that helped sink amnesty.
"Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) in an interview with CNN Wednesday admitted his position on H1B immigration visas has changed, but denied that the shift was politically motivated.
“Any rational person responds to a change in circumstances. What’s changed? We’ve seen a whole number of employers abusing the program,” Cruz, a frontrunner in the 2016 race, told CNN. “No. 1, bringing in people who are not high-skilled, bringing in medium- and low-skilled (information technology) workers and then firing American workers and, adding insult to injury, forcing the American workers to train their foreign replacements.”
"Cruz’s record on immigration came under scrutiny on the campaign trail after 2016 rival Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) — who has long been considered vulnerable on the issue for his involvement in the the failed immigration overhaul bill — suggested he and Cruz were not so different in their positions. Rubio pointed to Cruz’s past support of increased legal immigration and accused Cruz of previously supporting legal status for undocumented immigrants, a claim Cruz has vehemently denied.
As the tussle between the two heated up, Cruz released an immigration platform that placed new restrictions on legal immigration, including a suspension of the H1B visa program — which Cruz at one time favored expanding."
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Why should I waste anything g new on someone who only deals in debunked bull?
You get what you deserve nOOb.
Or would you prefer FNG?
Mm hmm 1980 is calling Tubbs and Crocket is calling back in their joking insults
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Why should I waste anything g new on someone who only deals in debunked bull?
You get what you deserve nOOb.
Or would you prefer FNG?
"Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) in an interview with CNN Wednesday admitted his position on H1B immigration visas has changed, but denied that the shift was politically motivated.
“Any rational person responds to a change in circumstances. What’s changed? We’ve seen a whole number of employers abusing the program,” Cruz, a frontrunner in the 2016 race, told CNN. “No. 1, bringing in people who are not high-skilled, bringing in medium- and low-skilled (information technology) workers and then firing American workers and, adding insult to injury, forcing the American workers to train their foreign replacements.”
"Cruz’s record on immigration came under scrutiny on the campaign trail after 2016 rival Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) — who has long been considered vulnerable on the issue for his involvement in the the failed immigration overhaul bill — suggested he and Cruz were not so different in their positions. Rubio pointed to Cruz’s past support of increased legal immigration and accused Cruz of previously supporting legal status for undocumented immigrants, a claim Cruz has vehemently denied.
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Why should I waste anything g new on someone who only deals in debunked bull?
You get what you deserve nOOb.
Or would you prefer FNG?
So his documented change in position was a lie? Look I'm all for someone changing their position but to say he didn't support a massive increase in immigration and H1B is not debunked bull. But this isn't even my point. My point had you read was Trump and Cruz are not perfect people. I support Cruz as I support Trump. The difference is while want both to succeed and would fight for both other would rather see our President destroyed.
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On this forum, we don't call each other liberals or accuse each other of being aligned with them because of a difference of opinion.
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@Jarhead
On this forum, we don't call each other liberals or accuse each other of being aligned with them because of a difference of opinion.
Trump is a public servant. An employee. He's not a king. As such, it's perfectly fine to dislike him or to criticize him if one sees fit.
Trump also won the presidency in the general election and he has been sworn in as the President of the United States of America and along with that he is granted certain powers under the Constitution. The liberals (including RINO's and DEMS) need to stop the witch hunt that was started by their Beast; she lost ... time to get over it. It is fine to criticize him if criticism is warranted, but to make up false news stories, and to make false accusations to spin an election and to obstruct him running the country in my books should be a crime! Gee... I remember when Dan Rather was forced to step down for false reporting ... what's going on now is much, much worse.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/dan-rather-reflects-his-dramatic-829780
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Rather
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Trump also won the presidency in the general election and he has been sworn in as the President of the United States of America and along with that he is granted certain powers under the Constitution. The liberals (including RINO's and DEMS) need to stop the witch hunt that was started by their Beast; she lost ... time to get over it. It is fine to criticize him if criticism is warranted, but to make up false news stories, and to make false accusations to spin an election and to obstruct him running the country in my books should be a crime! Gee... I remember when Dan Rather was forced to step down for false reporting ... what's going on now is much, much worse.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/dan-rather-reflects-his-dramatic-829780
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Rather
I thought you were smarter than to buy into Trump's paranoia?
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Trump also won the presidency in the general election and he has been sworn in as the President of the United States of America and along with that he is granted certain powers under the Constitution. The liberals (including RINO's and DEMS) need to stop the witch hunt that was started by their Beast; she lost ... time to get over it. It is fine to criticize him if criticism is warranted, but to make up false news stories, and to make false accusations to spin an election and to obstruct him running the country in my books should be a crime! Gee... I remember when Dan Rather was forced to step down for false reporting ... what's going on now is much, much worse.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/dan-rather-reflects-his-dramatic-829780
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Rather
Whole heartedly agree. And it isn't policy differences or differences in opinion driving some of these folks. It's sheer emotional anger on a tough primary that didn't turn out in our favor. Hell I too was upset Cruz didn't take it. However I'm not displeased either how Trump has taken it tonliberals. However he stands alone. The RINOs will not fight with him
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I thought you were smarter than to buy into Trump's paranoia?
Trump paranoia?
Describe
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Trump paranoia?
Describe
Claiming he's the victim of a "witch hunt"
Claiming he's the "worst treated president ever"
That's buying into Trumps self created paranoia.
It's the same lame BS he kept spouting during the primaries.
It's paranoid...its whining and it's unbecoming the man who is supposed to be the leader of the free world.
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It's ok to have different policy opinion. Hell I have my own differing opinions on some of his policies and I'll be the first to take him to task (i.e trade policy, Israel, daycare). It is entirely different to actively malign and trash the man and also quote known fake news outlets to build your case or even agree with removal of the President as our enemies are actively doing daily.
If the shoe fits
@Jarhead
I suspect your definition of fake news is rather narrow and excludes all but a few fan sites. I prefer not to exist in a self-protective bubble.
Again, we have the right to free speech in this country, and the president can be criticized at will. Don't like it? Too bad. No one is under obligation to like any politician, and not doing so certainly does not make them a liberal. Emotionalism won't get you far.
As I've said, you would do better to stop enabling Trump's behavior by blaming everybody in the world except him for his problems.
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:silly: :silly:
@Jazzhead
Truth. A difference of opinion does not make a person liberal.
Taking the liberal side of every argument, well, then....
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@Jazzhead
Truth. A difference of opinion does not make a person liberal.
Taking the liberal side of every argument, well, then....
What's that old Lee Michaels song: You Are What You Do?
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Trump also won the presidency in the general election and he has been sworn in as the President of the United States of America and along with that he is granted certain powers under the Constitution. The liberals (including RINO's and DEMS) need to stop the witch hunt that was started by their Beast; she lost ... time to get over it. It is fine to criticize him if criticism is warranted, but to make up false news stories, and to make false accusations to spin an election and to obstruct him running the country in my books should be a crime! Gee... I remember when Dan Rather was forced to step down for false reporting ... what's going on now is much, much worse.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/dan-rather-reflects-his-dramatic-829780
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Rather
Actually, @libertybele, according to the Constitution, it's fine to criticize him anytime one sees fit. Not just when someone else thinks it's "warranted."
Personally speaking, I don't trust the man and I don't like him. no surprise there. But I'm not going to rag on him even if something he does is decent. I happen to like the fact that he lit up the White House in blue to honor fallen cops. I liked it a lot. Doesn't change my general opinion of him.
Everything you say about the media is on target. But some things can be simultaneously true---the media is corrupt, Democrats are what they've always been, and Trump runs a chaotic, out of control administration and he steps on his (necktie) every time he turns around. He has to get his act together, and for the life of me I can't understand this tendency to absolve him of all blame.
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Claiming he's the victim of a "witch hunt"
Mark Levin on his Thursday show used these exact words that Trump is the victim of a witch hunt. You don't agree with Levin either?
Claiming he's the "worst treated president ever"
In his first 3 months of his presidency you'd debate that?
That's buying into Trumps self created paranoia.
What paranoia? That there is a push to create evidence or scandal that doesn't exist based off ILLEGAL domestic surveillance that is also being illegally leaked and being used to create a narrative to substantiate criminal charges and impeachment? That in no way bothers you?
It's the same lame BS he kept spouting during the primaries.
This is the point...you haven't gotten over your anger with the primaries. There are things MUCH GREATER than Trumpnoccurring to our republic that you remain silent on it fail to address because of you sheer anger for the man
It's paranoid...its whining and it's unbecoming the man who is supposed to be the leader of the free world.
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Whole heartedly agree. And it isn't policy differences or differences in opinion driving some of these folks. It's sheer emotional anger on a tough primary that didn't turn out in our favor. Hell I too was upset Cruz didn't take it. However I'm not displeased either how Trump has taken it tonliberals. However he stands alone. The RINOs will not fight with him
@Jarhead
Stop with that. I was a Cruz supporter; he was the first and only politician who ever got my money. I still support him. But when he dropped out of the race, I was over it later that same day. None of us are still in the primaries, except for those making emotion-based "Nyah, you lost' accusations.
I think you have a funny idea of what "fight" means. Trolling on Twitter isn't fighting. It's being man enough to stop your damn whining, get your administration and yourself under control, and get to work on the important issues you ran on.
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What's that old Lee Michaels song: You Are What You Do?
@Sanguine
I'm not familiar with that one, but how about "You Is What You Is?" :silly:
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Actually, @libertybele, according to the Constitution, it's fine to criticize him anytime one sees fit. Not just when someone else thinks it's "warranted."
Personally speaking, I don't trust the man and I don't like him. no surprise there. But I'm not going to rag on him even if something he does is decent. I happen to like the fact that he lit up the White House in blue to honor fallen cops. I liked it a lot. Doesn't change my general opinion of him.
Everything you say about the media is on target. But some things can be simultaneously true---the media is corrupt, Democrats are what they've always been, and Trump runs a chaotic, out of control administration and he steps on his (necktie) every time he turns around. He has to get his act together, and for the life of me I can't understand this tendency to absolve him of all blame.
This you and I agree on
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Claiming he's the victim of a "witch hunt"
Claiming he's the "worst treated president ever"
That's buying into Trumps self created paranoia.
It's the same lame BS he kept spouting during the primaries.
It's paranoid...its whining and it's unbecoming the man who is supposed to be the leader of the free world.
:thumbsup:
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@Jarhead
Stop with that. I was a Cruz supporter; he was the first and only politician who ever got my money. I still support him. But when he dropped out of the race, I was over it later that same day. None of us are still in the primaries, except for those making emotion-based "Nyah, you lost' accusations.
I think you have a funny idea of what "fight" means. Trolling on Twitter isn't fighting. It's being man enough to stop your damn whining, get your administration and yourself under control, and get to work on the important issues you ran on.
I don't agree with everything he does on Twitter HOWEVER I will say he is hitting an aspect of social media MANY (not me I can't stand it) use to communicate directly to the people about the corrupt media and they aren't liking it one bit! They are frothing at the mouth over it. I live that he has done this because it exposes them for what they are. Whereas before some hid it well now have been uncovered for all to see.
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@Sanguine
I'm not familiar with that one, but how about "You Is What You Is?" :silly:
Or, Is You Is, Or Is You Ain't?
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Or, Is You Is, Or Is You Ain't?
Louis Farrakhan sings a song about a tranny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s2hW2PUVtU
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This you and I agree on
@Jarhead
Finally something, lol. :laugh:
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@Jazzhead
Truth. A difference of opinion does not make a person liberal.
Taking the liberal side of every argument, well, then....
I think I'm a mainstream, pragmatic conservative on most issues, but have never hidden that I tend to be moderate/libertarian on social issues. Yeah, I oppose arbitrary discrimination and support the equal protection of the law - although I don't understand why "conservatives" are supposed to think differently. I support the separation of church and state - but so did Thomas Jefferson. And I'm continually being mischaracterized on the abortion issue - I oppose abortion, but prefer the matter be addressed by persuasion rather than coercion. That's because not only is the former approach Constitutional, it's also more likely to be effective.
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@Jarhead
I suspect your definition of fake news is rather narrow and excludes all but a few fan sites. I prefer not to exist in a self-protective bubble.
Again, we have the right to free speech in this country, and the president can be criticized at will. Don't like it? Too bad. No one is under obligation to like any politician, and not doing so certainly does not make them a liberal. Emotionalism won't get you far.
As I've said, you would do better to stop enabling Trump's behavior by blaming everybody in the world except him for his problems.
No it isn't narrow whatsoever. I see the much bigger picture at play. I listen to Levin three hours everyday. He is by FAR not a Trump cheerleader and rightly so expresses his frustrations and displeasure with a number of his policies. I have no issues with that at all because the way he does it isn't subversive or in support of tossing him out. It isn't personal. He also spends a great deal of time praising him when he is pushing policies that are conservative. Now a "Trumper" as you'd call it would be all hell bent out of shape listening to Levin. Not me, I find the man brilliant, and truly one of the smartest on constitutional subjects. With respect to what is taking place today. Levin uncovered the initial instances of illegality and kicked off the firestorm of illegal leaks. He stands behind Trump on this attempted coup (his words) while at the same time supporting him and critical of some of his policies.
What happens here is far different
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@Jarhead
Finally something, lol. :laugh:
You and I may agree on more than you think and maybe it is just lost in translation between the two of us. Read my last and you may even agree with that as well
:silly: :silly: :silly:
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@XenaLee
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LOL! I know, I know.... that was a bad, horrifying thought right there. Sorry about that!
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Or, Is You Is, Or Is You Ain't?
@Sanguine
Uh...okay, yes, that's it.
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@Cripplecreek
:silly:
I didn't know he was a singer!
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You simply just have to look up Cruz and H1B and find your answer. That is well known. Just because we don't like it doesn't make it true
No, it's bullcrap.
He offered to dramatically increase H1B's providing they were paid the going American rate.
Of course, no one took him up on it, because it was an obvious poke at members' true reasons for promoting H1Bs.
It cut right to the core of the thing, as members were not whining for more H1B's for 'the poor foreign born', as they seemed to be - they were influenced by business lobbies.
It was cynically delivered precisely to show they didn't give a damn about the foreign worker.
And I don't see how you would be offended even if it was true, in the fashion that you transmit... Because if H1B's provided the American rate of pay, no one would use them anymore. The whole reason H1B's are anti-American-worker is in the importation of cheap foreign labor.
So yeah. BULLCRAP.
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In that particular case Meagan Kelly actually apologized to Ted Cruz for running with the Trumper lie.
That's true.
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No, it's bullcrap.
He offered to dramatically increase H1B's providing they were paid the going American rate.
Of course, no one took him up on it, because it was an obvious poke at members' true reasons for promoting H1Bs.
It cut right to the core of the thing, as members were not whining for more H1B's for 'the poor foreign born', as they seemed to be - they were influenced by business lobbies.
It was cynically delivered precisely to show they didn't give a damn about the foreign worker.
And I don't see how you would be offended even if it was true, in the fashion that you transmit... Because if H1B's provided the American rate of pay, no one would use them anymore. The whole reason H1B's are anti-American-worker is in the importation of cheap foreign labor.
So yeah. BULLCRAP.
The position that you state is true....however that was a position taken that was a CHANGED POSITION that I feel was politically calculated to go with the times. In his OWN WORDS he stated he changed his own view so no it is NOT bull crap. Again that is neither here nor there. I supported him then, support him now and also support our president. I don't agree with things Cruz has done or said and I don't agree with things our President has done or said. These are based on stances and policy decisions and NOT the person.
"Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) in an interview with CNN Wednesday admitted his position on H1B immigration visas has changed, but denied that the shift was politically motivated.
“Any rational person responds to a change in circumstances. What’s changed? We’ve seen a whole number of employers abusing the program,” Cruz, a frontrunner in the 2016 race, told CNN. “No. 1, bringing in people who are not high-skilled, bringing in medium- and low-skilled (information technology) workers and then firing American workers and, adding insult to injury, forcing the American workers to train their foreign replacements.”
"Cruz’s record on immigration came under scrutiny on the campaign trail after 2016 rival Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) — who has long been considered vulnerable on the issue for his involvement in the the failed immigration overhaul bill — suggested he and Cruz were not so different in their positions. Rubio pointed to Cruz’s past support of increased legal immigration and accused Cruz of previously supporting legal status for undocumented immigrants, a claim Cruz has vehemently denied.
As the tussle between the two heated up, Cruz released an immigration platform that placed new restrictions on legal immigration, including a suspension of the H1B visa program — which Cruz at one time favored expanding."
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The position that you state is true....however that was a position taken that was a CHANGED POSITION that I feel was politically calculated to go with the times. In his OWN WORDS he stated he changed his own view so no it is NOT bull crap. Again that is neither here nor there. I supported him then, support him now and also support our president. I don't agree with things Cruz has done or said and I don't agree with things our President has done or said. These are based on stances and policy decisions and NOT the person.
"Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) in an interview with CNN Wednesday admitted his position on H1B immigration visas has changed, but denied that the shift was politically motivated.
“Any rational person responds to a change in circumstances. What’s changed? We’ve seen a whole number of employers abusing the program,” Cruz, a frontrunner in the 2016 race, told CNN. “No. 1, bringing in people who are not high-skilled, bringing in medium- and low-skilled (information technology) workers and then firing American workers and, adding insult to injury, forcing the American workers to train their foreign replacements.”
"Cruz’s record on immigration came under scrutiny on the campaign trail after 2016 rival Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) — who has long been considered vulnerable on the issue for his involvement in the the failed immigration overhaul bill — suggested he and Cruz were not so different in their positions. Rubio pointed to Cruz’s past support of increased legal immigration and accused Cruz of previously supporting legal status for undocumented immigrants, a claim Cruz has vehemently denied.
As the tussle between the two heated up, Cruz released an immigration platform that placed new restrictions on legal immigration, including a suspension of the H1B visa program — which Cruz at one time favored expanding."
Tell a lie often enough....
*****rollingeyes*****
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The position that you state is true....however that was a position taken that was a CHANGED POSITION that I feel was politically calculated to go with the times. In his OWN WORDS he stated he changed his own view so no it is NOT bull crap. Again that is neither here nor there. I supported him then, support him now and also support our president. I don't agree with things Cruz has done or said and I don't agree with things our President has done or said. These are based on stances and policy decisions and NOT the person.
"Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) in an interview with CNN Wednesday admitted his position on H1B immigration visas has changed, but denied that the shift was politically motivated.
“Any rational person responds to a change in circumstances. What’s changed? We’ve seen a whole number of employers abusing the program,” Cruz, a frontrunner in the 2016 race, told CNN. “No. 1, bringing in people who are not high-skilled, bringing in medium- and low-skilled (information technology) workers and then firing American workers and, adding insult to injury, forcing the American workers to train their foreign replacements.”
"Cruz’s record on immigration came under scrutiny on the campaign trail after 2016 rival Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) — who has long been considered vulnerable on the issue for his involvement in the the failed immigration overhaul bill — suggested he and Cruz were not so different in their positions. Rubio pointed to Cruz’s past support of increased legal immigration and accused Cruz of previously supporting legal status for undocumented immigrants, a claim Cruz has vehemently denied.
As the tussle between the two heated up, Cruz released an immigration platform that placed new restrictions on legal immigration, including a suspension of the H1B visa program — which Cruz at one time favored expanding."
You "feel" while Roamer is dealing only with facts.
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Tell a lie often enough....
*****rollingeyes*****
You just can't make this stuff up. So you're saying that he didn't say on national TV that his position with respect to H1B changed? I got that right?
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You "feel" while Roamer is dealing only with facts.
So you're saying that he didn't say on national TV that his position with respect to H1B changed? I got that right?
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@Cripplecreek
:silly:
I didn't know he was a singer!
@CatherineofAragon
Then this will really blow your mind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8Ei2XwrEnA
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So you're saying that he didn't say on national TV that his position with respect to H1B changed? I got that right?
I'm saying your interpretation and the emphasis you put on this item is suspect because it's based on how you feel about it.
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I'm saying your interpretation and the emphasis you put on this item is suspect because it's based on how you feel about it.
Point taken but truly no longer care. My original point that has since been lost which is both were and are not perfect yet I do support both enthusiastically
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The position that you state is true....however that was a position taken that was a CHANGED POSITION that I feel was politically calculated to go with the times. In his OWN WORDS he stated he changed his own view so no it is NOT bull crap.
Yes, it is bullcrap. I was paying keen attention during the Gang of 8 Immigration battles.
Ted Cruz was a shiny new thing for me, at the time - And he was four-square perfect as a Conservative - Brilliantly so.
So when his H1B rider happened, I was terribly offended.
So not only was I really paying attention, but I was mortally pissed off too.
So I followed the whole thing in real time.
I soon found out that everyone from the OTHER side were pissed at Cruz for it, and the stalwarts that I rely upon were happy for it.
The Dems commenting at the time called it a poison pill
The press commenting on it at the time called it a poison pill.
The RINOs at the time called it a poison pill.
It is the first time I witnessed Cruz jackin' them up, And seeing it was a great relief, once it became clear to me what was going on. so it is ready in my recollection.
So I would say his later comments on the campaign trail were damage control.
I think his record was getting stretched out of shape, and the hammering of the press and Rubio elicited an acceptance and regrouping - simply because the uninformed would not readily understand the explanation, nor check the record.
That's how I see it.
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Yes, it is bullcrap. I was paying keen attention during the Gang of 8 Immigration battles.
Ted Cruz was a shiny new thing for me, at the time - And he was four-square perfect as a Conservative - Brilliantly so.
So when his H1B rider happened, I was terribly offended.
So not only was I really paying attention, but I was mortally pissed off too.
So I followed the whole thing in real time.
I soon found out that everyone from the OTHER side were pissed at Cruz for it, and the stalwarts that I rely upon were happy for it.
The Dems commenting at the time called it a poison pill
The press commenting on it at the time called it a poison pill.
The RINOs at the time called it a poison pill.
It is the first time I witnessed Cruz jackin' them up, And seeing it was a great relief, once it became clear to me what was going on. so it is ready in my recollection.
So I would say his later comments on the campaign trail were damage control.
I think his record was getting stretched out of shape, and the hammering of the press and Rubio elicited an acceptance and regrouping - simply because the uninformed would not readily understand the explanation, nor check the record.
That's how I see it.
I support him and his record. I do admire the man
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I support him and his record. I do admire the man
I admire you for trying but you are wasting your time. Some of these people came from the Ministry of Disinformation. Some are genuinely good people that have been had. Some can't stand not getting their way and have dug in their heels no matter the cost. And some because they'd rather argue with someone that will argue back as their fencepost at home doesn't always respond to them depending upon whether their meds worked that day or not.
We're all one big, happy family in spite of it all. :)
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I admire you for trying but you are wasting your time. Some of these people came from the Ministry of Disinformation. Some are genuinely good people that have been had. Some can't stand not getting their way and have dug in their heels no matter the cost. And some because they'd rather argue with someone that will argue back as their fencepost at home doesn't always respond to them depending upon whether their meds worked that day or not.
We're all one big, happy family in spite of it all. :)
@anubias, I don't know about you, but it doesn't make me feel either happy or familyish to be called names like this. My friends and family don't do that sort of thing. Do yours?
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I don't know about you, but it doesn't make me feel either happy or familyish to be called names like this. My friends and family don't do that sort of thing. Do yours?
Any time a relative stranger comes around and starts calling us "these people" you know you're not dealing with an honest broker.
This is definitely not a "happy family" member who is saying these disparaging things about intelligent, thoughtful conservative people.
JMHO...... *****rollingeyes*****
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I admire you for trying but you are wasting your time. Some of these people came from the Ministry of Disinformation. Some are genuinely good people that have been had. Some can't stand not getting their way and have dug in their heels no matter the cost. And some because they'd rather argue with someone that will argue back as their fencepost at home doesn't always respond to them depending upon whether their meds worked that day or not.
We're all one big, happy family in spite of it all. :)
You are not any kind of 'family' member I would have anything to do with. Not with that kind of snark and ridicule directed at those of us who value our principles more than your political expedience.
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@anubias, I don't know about you, but it doesn't make me feel either happy or familyish to be called names like this. My friends and family don't do that sort of thing. Do yours?
I guess you didn't find my attempt at humor funny. I'll try harder next time.
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You are not any kind of 'family' member I would have anything to do with. Not with that kind of snark and ridicule directed at those of us who value our principles more than your political expedience.
Oh please. It was joke. Get off your high horse.
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Oh please. It was joke. Get off your high horse.
His entire existence is on the high horse. Soon he'll claim you have a low IQ, and have ADD.
Indeed speech like his, is intended to set himself higher than us, mere mortals.
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His entire existence is on the high horse. Soon he'll claim you have a low IQ, and have ADD.
Indeed speech like his, is intended to set himself higher than us, mere mortals.
Hey! I have ADD. At least, I blame it on my ADD, baby!
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I admire you for trying but you are wasting your time. Some of these people came from the Ministry of Disinformation. Some are genuinely good people that have been had. Some can't stand not getting their way and have dug in their heels no matter the cost. And some because they'd rather argue with someone that will argue back as their fencepost at home doesn't always respond to them depending upon whether their meds worked that day or not.
We're all one big, happy family in spite of it all. :)
/snicker
Amazing how you've adopted liberal smear tactics.
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The headline is wrong anyway, it should say "I am the single greatest victim ever hunted..."
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The headline is wrong anyway, it should say "I am the single greatest victim ever hunted..."
I know that story. It is the one about "The Great White Wail".
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Hey! I have ADD. At least, I blame it on my ADD, baby!
Sail! :th_10444:
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His entire existence is on the high horse. Soon he'll claim you have a low IQ, and have ADD.
Indeed speech like his, is intended to set himself higher than us, mere mortals.
Not to worry @truth_seeker , I take anything said by INVAR with a grain of salt these days.
After all the insults dished on us lately, i am surprised that they can't take a bit of ribbing. A bit of Hentoff comes into play I guess. Or maybe Rule 11? Far be it from me to understand them. :shrug:
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Not to worry @truth_seeker , I take anything said by INVAR with a grain of salt these days.
After all the insults dished on us lately, i am surprised that they can't take a bit of ribbing. A bit of Hentoff comes into play I guess. Or maybe Rule 11? Far be it from me to understand them. :shrug:
Insults dished on you? Welcome to the party, Janey-come-lately. Those of us who don't fawn all over the Orange God have been the brunt of insults from you and yours since the primary season.
Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, and all that.
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His entire existence is on the high horse. Soon he'll claim you have a low IQ, and have ADD.
Indeed speech like his, is intended to set himself higher than us, mere mortals.
Are you talking about a TBR member or Trump? :silly: :silly: :silly:
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Are you talking about a TBR member or Trump? :silly: :silly: :silly:
He's clearly had a revelation and is talking about Trump. :dx1:
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You are not any kind of 'family' member I would have anything to do with.
Well, I would @anubias ... and we'd have a blast driving the likes of him to drink! :laugh:
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Insults dished on you? Welcome to the party, Janey-come-lately. Those of us who don't fawn all over the Orange God have been the brunt of insults from you and yours since the primary season.
Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, and all that.
I hope you recognize how much self control it's taken not to throw a snowflake tag your way. 88devil
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Well, I would @anubias ... and we'd have a blast driving the likes of him to drink! :laugh:
I'm married with three grown daughters all two years apart. I have endured a full month of PMS in my house for an entire decade and came out the other side with a full head of my own hair.
There is absolutely nothing humanly possible you or anyone else could possibly do to drive me to drink.
I have endured what most mortal men barely escape with their sanity and livers intact, much less their own hair.
I'm impervious to any pressure of stupefying myself in order to cope.
But you might make your efforts of attempting it amusing.
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Insults dished on you? Welcome to the party, Janey-come-lately. Those of us who don't fawn all over the Orange God have been the brunt of insults from you and yours since the primary season.
Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, and all that.
Indeed; so why the whining?
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I'm married with three grown daughters all two years apart. I have endured a full month of PMS in my house for an entire decade and came out the other side with a full head of my own hair.
There is absolutely nothing humanly possible you or anyone else could possibly do to drive me to drink.
I have endured what most mortal men barely escape with their sanity and livers intact, much less their own hair.
I'm impervious to any pressure of stupefying myself in order to cope.
Thanks for sharing @INVAR .. I'm guessing your loving, self-depreciating humor has really helped you cope.
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Well, I would @anubias ... and we'd have a blast driving the likes of him to drink! :laugh:
Thank you @Right_in_Virginia 888high58888
Seems to me that there are some severely twisted knickers today. I checked to see if it is a full moon. Nope. It's not the 13th. Guess it's just been a long week. Maybe next week will be better.
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Thank you @Right_in_Virginia 888high58888
Seems to me that there are some severely twisted knickers today. I checked to see if it is a full moon. Nope. It's not the 13th. Guess it's just been a long week. Maybe next week will be better.
Here's hoping :beer:
@anubias
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I'm married with three grown daughters all two years apart. I have endured a full month of PMS in my house for an entire decade and came out the other side with a full head of my own hair.
There is absolutely nothing humanly possible you or anyone else could possibly do to drive me to drink.
I have endured what most mortal men barely escape with their sanity and livers intact, much less their own hair.
I'm impervious to any pressure of stupefying myself in order to cope.
But you might make your efforts of attempting it amusing.
You lucked out. Imagine if thier cycles had synced and you had PMS3 :smokin:
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You lucked out. Imagine if thier cycles had synced and you had PMS3 :smokin:
That is just the stuff nightmares are made of.
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That is just the stuff nightmares are made of.
It is. Fortunately I were already bald.
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That is just the stuff nightmares are made of.
Ours are 5 and 3. An acquaintance just told us she spent over $5K on her two high school girls' prom. My husband and I looked at each other like hell no!
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Ours are 5 and 3. An acquaintance just told us she spent over $5K on her two high school girls' prom. My husband and I looked at each other like hell no!
You what?! Thats kinda, ok a lot, stupid.
When our (then) middle one hit 17, she got her driving license, then asked me if she could get a car. I said sure, what can you afford? :tongue2: She did pay for it herself (I did send her to a mate of mine, so she got a good deal).
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You what?! Thats kinda, ok a lot, stupid.
When our (then) middle one hit 17, she got her driving license, then asked me if she could get a car. I said sure, what can you afford? :tongue2: She did pay for it herself (I did send her to a mate of mine, so she got a good deal).
Yup. There are even dress stores that will only sell one dress style per school. You pay a premium so that princess doesn't have to experience the horror of another girl wearing her dress. **nononono*
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Ours are 5 and 3. An acquaintance just told us she spent over $5K on her two high school girls' prom. My husband and I looked at each other like hell no!
And people wonder how an entire generation of Americans became snowflakes.
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You are not any kind of 'family' member I would have anything to do with. Not with that kind of snark and ridicule directed at those of us who value our principles more than your political expedience.
Please do remind me about the principle that cheerfully supports a full blown coup that not only places the republic in jeopardy but also discounts millions who voted for not Hillary.
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Please do remind me about the principle that cheerfully supports a full blown coup that not only places the republic in jeopardy but also discounts millions who voted for not Hillary.
Excuse you. This so-called 'coup' is not what put the Republic in jeopardy.
A people who abandoned foundational principles for wealth and power and for the pursuit of ignorance and abandonment of responsibility did that some time ago.
The principles that have been discarded by the majority of the population and by both political parties have fundamentally transformed us from a Constitutional Republic into a Socialist Democracy under the full gaze and support of the whole people and to much applause.
Getting all upset over the natural progression of a corrupted and debased people ignorant of their history and heritage is a bit silly.
And, I'm not 'cheering' it on. I see it for what it is and accept it: a consequence and Judgment of what we have been doing for years and decades. The solution being as rejected in hostility as anything I have ever witnessed in this country.
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Excuse you. This so-called 'coup' is not what put the Republic in jeopardy.
A people who abandoned foundational principles for wealth and power and for the pursuit of ignorance and abandonment of responsibility did that some time ago.
The principles that have been discarded by the majority of the population and by both political parties have fundamentally transformed us from a Constitutional Republic into a Socialist Democracy under the full gaze and support of the whole people and to much applause.
Getting all upset over the natural progression of a corrupted and debased people ignorant of their history and heritage is a bit silly.
And, I'm not 'cheering' it on. I see it for what it is and accept it: a consequence and Judgment of what we have been doing for years and decades. The solution being as rejected in hostility as anything I have ever witnessed in this country.
Well written and I do agree
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Excuse you. This so-called 'coup' is not what put the Republic in jeopardy.
A people who abandoned foundational principles for wealth and power and for the pursuit of ignorance and abandonment of responsibility did that some time ago.
The principles that have been discarded by the majority of the population and by both political parties have fundamentally transformed us from a Constitutional Republic into a Socialist Democracy under the full gaze and support of the whole people and to much applause.
Getting all upset over the natural progression of a corrupted and debased people ignorant of their history and heritage is a bit silly.
And, I'm not 'cheering' it on. I see it for what it is and accept it: a consequence and Judgment of what we have been doing for years and decades. The solution being as rejected in hostility as anything I have ever witnessed in this country.
Running a thriving business since Monicagate, I witnessed firsthand how George W. Bush's policy toward border enforcement and being mute on sanctuary cities, and over-crowed schools filled with illegals.
IMO, that only strengthened the Democrats' resolve. Not that Barack Obama needed that.
THAT is what has weakened our infrastructure, raised our taxes, and why you see beggars on virtually every intersection island with cardboard signs.
As long as the mainstream media is allowed to do this...it will only get worse.
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Running a thriving business since Monicagate, I witnessed firsthand how George W. Bush's policy toward border enforcement and being mute on sanctuary cities, and over-crowed schools filled with illegals.
IMO, that only strengthened the Democrats' resolve. Not that Barack Obama needed that.
THAT is what has weakened our infrastructure, raised our taxes, and why you see beggars on virtually every intersection island with cardboard signs.
As long as the mainstream media is allowed to do this...it will only get worse.
Again, that is just another symptom of the underlying root cause and reason of where we find ourselves. There is a particular reason THAT had happened.
Blaming the media for it all, is stupid.
"The foreigners who reside among you will rise above you higher and higher, but you will sink lower and lower." Deuteronomy 28:43
The first fifteen verses of that chapter are the how and reason we became a great nation to begin with (reference Alexis DeToqueville), and the rest of the chapter is our future, perhaps very near future with some of it already having come to pass.
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"The foreigners who reside among you will rise above you higher and higher, but you will sink lower and lower." Deuteronomy 28:43
The first fifteen verses of that chapter are the how and reason we became a great nation to begin with (reference Alexis DeToqueville), and the rest of the chapter is our future, perhaps very near future with some of it already having come to pass.
Absolutely.
:amen:
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Again, that is just another symptom of the underlying root cause and reason of where we find ourselves. There is a particular reason THAT had happened.
Blaming the media for it all, is stupid.
"The foreigners who reside among you will rise above you higher and higher, but you will sink lower and lower." Deuteronomy 28:43
The first fifteen verses of that chapter are the how and reason we became a great nation to begin with (reference Alexis DeToqueville), and the rest of the chapter is our future, perhaps very near future with some of it already having come to pass.
You say it's "stupid".
And then you cite Bible verses to support your theory?
"The most insidious power of the media is the power to ignore" ....Chris Plante
They control the news cycle. Not the Bible. ....and you cite the Old Testament to boot. ^-^
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You say it's "stupid".
And then you cite Bible verses to support your theory?
YUP. BINGO.
Sorry it went over your head.
"The most insidious power of the media is the power to ignore" ....Chris Plante
I think the most insidious trick of the devil is to persuade you that he does not exist in order to ascribe it to anything but to paraphrase Charles Baudelaire.
....and you cite the Old Testament to boot. ^-^
As if the Old Testament Scriptures that were quoted by Jesus are full of nothing but wrong.