Trump: I’m victim of 'single greatest witch hunt'

[truth_seeker]

Nice rant...when Trump immolates, your words should keep you warm and cozy.

The stench of weakness, cowardice and desertion are not qualities I value.

But on behalf of some #nevertrumps, feel free to do so if you like.

[Bigun]

We don't disagree much, sir, but on this one we do.

Trump should act like a man.  (Or a strong woman, for that matter).

This kind of victimhood swill is due to his deep liberal roots.

Fight evil with strength, not childishness.  You can't fight a dangerous enemy with tears and a "poor me" complex.

IMHO he is using the only avenue he has to fight back!

[geronl]

IT'S TRUMPERTANTRUM TIME!!

[INVAR]

And that is one point on which we disagree.  While it is true that Trump provides the left ammo for ridicule via some (most?) of his tweets.... I do not see it as him providing the rabid left with "avenues" to attack him.  They are looking for and when not found, creating those avenues out of thin air via this "death by a thousand cuts" campaign of media assault on him.  There is not, to my knowledge at this time, one iota of proof of Trump's wrongdoing in all this mess.  The left is, as always, only too willing to ignore that if/when it's not a gdamned Democrat involved.  They don need no steenken proof then.

I get it that you don't like Trump.  But don't let that cloud your judgment re: what is an ongoing campaign and agenda to reverse the results of last November's election.... just because the rabid left is pissed that they lost.  Just sayin....

This was going to happen regardless of whomever in the GOP won the election.  We have devolved into a Socialist Democracy with the help of presidents, the Courts and Congress.  The majority of the population has no use or want of a limited government - and the GOP has demonstrated they have no intention of limiting it either - only expanding it. This crossroads was going to come because the GOP has placated the Left time and again.  2000 was just the first foreshadowing of what we have arrived at.  The Left thinks they own the right to rule, and the GOP has accommodated that belief by acquiescing to it.

That does not impel me to abandon my judgment regarding Trump or his mobs of supporters that want payback.

I'm somewhat ambivalent to Trump, though less so than I was Obama. I know what Trump is, and I do not expect any service to foundational principles that undergird Conservatism unless it happens by accident. The difference is I do not see Trump as hostile in intention to my liberties as it was under Obama.   However, I spend most of my time shaking my head in incredulity as the sheer stupidity and petulance being displayed via his uncontrollable thumbs.

My assertive issues are largely centered over the reaction to any criticism of Trump by his faithful, because that cuts into my liberty should some of them get their way.  Shaming or attempting to silence criticism via accusations of treason deserves the level of push back being devoted, and it makes those engaged in such efforts no different than those they claim to oppose.  The allegory of noting the similarities of Communists versus Brownshirts back in the Weimar days is not without merit.

That said, Trump is his own worst enemy and he does himself absolutely no favors, and I have no faith that Trump is going to right this ship - because it is not in his character to do so.

I will enjoy being surprised if it does happen.  And I will admit in advance that it will happen without any assistance from me.

[truth_seeker]

Up yours.........where did I ever say desert anything?  I asked a simple question that you orange echobots refuse to answer.  Nothing more, nothing less.

Me desert?   FU.....I have stood as a principled conservative from the begining.

Your version of "principled conservatism," get nowhere if you are always on the sidelines.

"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally - not a 20 percent traitor.

Ronald Reagan"

Trump is trying to enact the conservative agenda. Deserters are never satisfied. Wrong battle. Wrong leader. Wrong anything, to avoid commitment and participation.
 

[libertybele]

And Trump is giving them more power by his wimpy whining.

And, if Trump remains silent does that accomplish anything?  The world is watching right now wondering if the militant progressive left is going to win over the will of the people who elected their President through our much acclaimed electoral process.

IMHO the liberals lost and they are the ones whining and are trying to change the outcome of the election; and I might add, by any and every means that they can.

[INVAR]

Trump is trying to enact the conservative agenda.

You are welcome to believe that.

I don't. 

Trump has demonstrated he has no core Conservative principles he is governed by, and due that fact - he is not going risk losing a fight for something he does not actually believe in.

His only motivation is to be seen as a 'winner'.  What that means, I don't know.  His vindictive promise to primary Republicans who do not support him is just another in a long string of actions that feed my lack of belief he will do anything he said he would in terms of Conservative principles in governance.  You can shout 'Grouch'! until your face is blue.  I remain unmoved because I never capitulated to the belief that tilting the SCOTUS was where salvation happens.

If any positive service to Conservative principles happens, I expect it will be largely by accident or in vain effort to placate his base of supporters.

[Bigun]

And, if Trump remains silent does that accomplish anything?  The world is watching right now wondering if the militant progressive left is going to win over the will of the people who elected their President through our much acclaimed electoral process.

IMHO the liberals lost and they are the ones whining and are trying to change the outcome of the election; and I might add, by any and every means that they can.

One need only go back to the G.W. Bush administration to see the result of trying to pacify the leftist media.  Didn't work out well at all.

[XenaLee]

And, if Trump remains silent does that accomplish anything?  The world is watching right now wondering if the militant progressive left is going to win over the will of the people who elected their President through our much acclaimed electoral process.

IMHO the liberals lost and they are the ones whining and are trying to change the outcome of the election; and I might add, by any and every means that they can.

What I find stunning and amazing here is.... that so many that loathe Trump are unwilling to even acknowledge this reality and fact.   I find it hard to believe that Trump hate could evoke such blindness to the current threat to our future and our nation. 

I'm no fan of Trump, but I put what is best for the nation above any and all of that.   And as long as he doesn't veer left and start siding with those same leftists that I detest and that threaten our country as founded, I'll stand behind and support him.  That means recognizing the threat the left represents right now.  And being willing to at least try to combat it. 

[driftdiver]

You are welcome to believe that.

I don't. 

Trump has demonstrated he has no core Conservative principles he is governed by, and due that fact - he is not going risk losing a fight for something he does not actually believe in.

His only motivation is to be seen as a 'winner'.  What that means, I don't know.  His vindictive promise to primary Republicans who do not support him is just another in a long string of actions that feed my lack of belief he will do anything he said he would in terms of Conservative principles in governance.  You can shout 'Grouch'! until your face is blue.  I remain unmoved because I never capitulated to the belief that tilting the SCOTUS was where salvation happens.

If any positive service to Conservative principles happens, I expect it will be largely by accident or in vain effort to placate his base of supporters.

You're approach may make you feel vindicated but it won't accomplish anything.  It wont move the bar one iota.  All it does is alienate people and push them into thinking conservatives are nuts.

[truth_seeker]

You are welcome to believe that.

I don't. 

--firm up national security/defense Reagan
--strengthen our borders campaign promise
--cut taxes for economic growth, jobs Reagan
--Reduce regulations Reagan
--change healthcare campaign promise
--defeat international terrorism campaign promise
--confront DC bureaucracy and special interest lobbies campaign promise

Which parts of that are not conservative?

I doubt you'd be satisfied, even if he read one of your long winded sermons every day.

[txradioguy]

And, if Trump remains silent does that accomplish anything?  The world is watching right now wondering if the militant progressive left is going to win over the will of the people who elected their President through our much acclaimed electoral process.

IMHO the liberals lost and they are the ones whining and are trying to change the outcome of the election; and I might add, by any and every means that they can.

There are other ways to handle this besides paranoid whining or stone cold silence. Problem is...Trump won't listen to any sound advice.

[GrouchoTex]

Xena, we most certainly see and comprehend what is actually being attempted by the Left and the Establishment Oligarchy.  That does not automatically necessitate us jumping into the trenches with the Trump Militant to defend their leader.

We are not blind to the fact that Trump and his people are handing out ammunition to their opposition on a daily basis.  They are chucking hand grenades at all their enemies while forgetting to pull the pin.

Whining about it when you are the person providing them the avenues to exploit is the height of incompetence.

Supporting a general who insists on running right up the middle into fortified positions in just his underwear and armed with only a cellphone is not something we plan on sacrificing ourselves for, especially considering we do not know what it is exactly that he is fighting for.

I agree.
I didn't like it when Obama blamed Bush, either.

[Night Hides Not]

--firm up national security/defense Reagan
--strengthen our borders campaign promise
--cut taxes for economic growth, jobs Reagan
--Reduce regulations Reagan
--change healthcare campaign promise
--defeat international terrorism campaign promise
--confront DC bureaucracy and special interest lobbies campaign promise

Which parts of that are not conservative?

I doubt you'd be satisfied, even if he read one of your long winded sermons every day.

You'd be surprised what Ronald Reagan read, and responded to. I think he would have enjoyed the "long winded sermons" you seem to detest.

As a 17 YO, HS senior, I sent Governor Reagan a letter for a civics class. It was not complimentary of the policy to divert water from the Sacramento River to Southern California...in fact, it was a pretty nasty letter accusing him of paying off his contributors.

Lo and behold, I received his answer a few weeks later. Although it has been lost during my many moves since high school, I will never forget his response...it was vintage Reagan, penned by him and not a staffer. The first sentence started with, "Thank your for your letter, NHN. I always enjoy hearing from young people like you, because your bring great passion and energy to your issues."

He then took the remainder of his letter to explain his reasons for the water-diversion policy.

As I grew older, and saw how he conducted himself as President, I was blessed to have been given a small insight to this great man.

[XenaLee]

There are other ways to handle this besides paranoid whining or stone cold silence. Problem is...Trump won't listen to any sound advice.

What.... other ways?   Please enlighten.   ^-^

[Night Hides Not]

There are other ways to handle this besides paranoid whining or stone cold silence. Problem is...Trump won't listen to any sound advice.

He's said on numerous occasions how he's always the smartest guy in the room, that he knows more than the generals do. Obama was like that, too, but he didn't see the need to constantly inform everyone of that "fact."

[Night Hides Not]

What.... other ways?   Please enlighten.   ^-^

Taking a page from Teddy Roosevelt, he could "tweet softly and carry a big stick."   

[XenaLee]

Taking a page from Teddy Roosevelt, he could "tweet softly and carry a big stick."   

Lol!  Well....according to Donald, during the primary, he already does (ooops!).   

[INVAR]

You're approach may make you feel vindicated but it won't accomplish anything.  It wont move the bar one iota.  All it does is alienate people and push them into thinking conservatives are nuts.

You mean like being called a 'traitor' by the Trump Faithful because we refuse to get on Trump's propaganda train?  That either we support him or we are to be lined up against the wall with the rest of the Left and dealt with - you mean THAT kind of alienation?

If I recall, we have been reminded of late that the principles that I am governed by are no longer principles that can win elections - and so, by that reckoning if adopting principles anathema to mine is where 'winning' is at - I have no intention of helping them move their bar.

They have declared me to be the enemy, and so be it.  They can grab support from the moderates and Left .

[INVAR]

--firm up national security/defense Reagan
--strengthen our borders campaign promise
--cut taxes for economic growth, jobs Reagan
--Reduce regulations Reagan
--change healthcare campaign promise
--defeat international terrorism campaign promise
--confront DC bureaucracy and special interest lobbies campaign promise

Which parts of that are not conservative?

Wake me up if Trump actually accomplishes any of that beyond talking point spin.

Last I looked ObamaCare is still there with attempts to make it the GOP's own still continuing rather than getting rid of it ("On day one").

Cutting taxes appears to be off the table with The Great Turtle exclaiming that the debt cannot sustain any tax cuts, and if there are to be any - they must be 'deficit neutral'.  How is that Conservative?

Tillersons sign-on of UN Climate change is certainly not going to be reducing any ridiculous energy regulations anytime soon.

Using funds to fix 20 miles of existing fence on the border is not exactly what Trump promised to build.

So, that is just observations for starters.  I'm not expecting any of what you wrote to actually make itself manifest beyond rhetoric and sloganeering. 

Do rub it in my face if and when any of those things are actually achieved as presented and promised.

[Wingnut]

Taking a page from Teddy Roosevelt, he could "tweet softly and carry a big stick. shtick "   

fixed it for you!

[txradioguy]

@INVAR
@txradioguy

In his speech to the Coast Guard yesterday, he said this:  "Look at the way I've been treated lately," he continued. "Especially by the media. No politician in history — and I say this with great surety — has been treated worse or more unfairly.

He has whined, complained, all his life that he is special among all of history and is treated unfairly more than anyone in history. 
He finds fault with every single person as he actually believes no one is perfect like he is.  He believes that and that mindset guides him every single day.  He IS special in that his mind is screwed up like none other.

Definitely NOT what those graduates wanted to hear from their CINC at their graduation ceremony.

[musiclady]

Lol!  Well....according to Donald, during the primary, he already does (ooops!).   

 

[musiclady]

Definitely NOT what those graduates wanted to hear from their CINC at their graduation ceremony.

That's because his only association with the military was being shipped off to military school for hitting a music teacher.

(That little factoid made an impression on me.  ^-^ )

He's proving daily that he never grew up.

And a child, as we have seen for the past eight years, is not equipped to be President.

[Polly Ticks]

You'd be surprised what Ronald Reagan read, and responded to. I think he would have enjoyed the "long winded sermons" you seem to detest.

As a 17 YO, HS senior, I sent Governor Reagan a letter for a civics class. It was not complimentary of the policy to divert water from the Sacramento River to Southern California...in fact, it was a pretty nasty letter accusing him of paying off his contributors.

Lo and behold, I received his answer a few weeks later. Although it has been lost during my many moves since high school, I will never forget his response...it was vintage Reagan, penned by him and not a staffer. The first sentence started with, "Thank your for your letter, NHN. I always enjoy hearing from young people like you, because your bring great passion and energy to your issues."

He then took the remainder of his letter to explain his reasons for the water-diversion policy.

As I grew older, and saw how he conducted himself as President, I was blessed to have been given a small insight to this great man.

@Night Hides Not
What a great story/memory!  Thanks for sharing.