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OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
Let's rock n' roll. Ted Cruz coming up tonight.
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I'm in.
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"When Ted Cruz takes the stage here on Wednesday evening, what he doesn’t say will be as important as what he does: Though he accepted a primetime speaking spot at the convention that officially nominated Donald Trump on Tuesday, Cruz will not endorse the Republican nominee, according to two sources familiar with his plans."
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438086/ted-cruz-republican-convention-speech-high-stakes-2020
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Nothing like that new thread smell!
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The Cruz speech is the only thing I'll be watching.
While its exceedingly unlikely that he will endorse Trump, it wouldn't be enough to win my vote for Trump anyway. Ted Cruz himself has said that his endorsement wouldn't really make any difference because people still have to make up their own minds.
I have.
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This is soooooo much better than the Pro-Trump sanitized echo chamber.
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"When Ted Cruz takes the stage here on Wednesday evening, what he doesn’t say will be as important as what he does: Though he accepted a primetime speaking spot at the convention that officially nominated Donald Trump on Tuesday, Cruz will not endorse the Republican nominee, according to two sources familiar with his plans."
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438086/ted-cruz-republican-convention-speech-high-stakes-2020
Personally, I'd love it if he could use the five seconds he'd need before they cut off his mic to announce a new party and invite delegates to walk out, resulting in hundreds of delegates leaving.
We have to come to the reality that the party is NOT unified - it is completely and irrevocably fractured. The primary voters who insisted on choosing Trump drove a stake into the heart of a unified party. The funny thing is, many of them said things ahead of time like, "I'm voting for Trump, but I'd be OK with [X]."
Think about that. They would have been OK with [one of the other candidates]. #NeverTrump said, "I'm voting for [X], but I will never, ever support Trump."
And yet, here we are. The Trump crowd blindly led us down this path. We have no unified party anymore. Even while we swallowed hard and pulled the lever for Romney, we were unified.
Now what? Where do true conservatives go? What happens to the GOP in the aftermath? My guess is that team Trump's spite will be so strong (as witnessed on the other thread) that they will never come to the light. My guess is that the fractured party ensures liberal rule for decades to come.
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The Cruz speech is the only thing I'll be watching.
While its exceedingly unlikely that he will endorse Trump, it wouldn't be enough to win my vote for Trump anyway. Ted Cruz himself has said that his endorsement wouldn't really make any difference because people still have to make up their own minds.
I have.
I agree with all of that. I wouldn't vote for Trump if my husband endorsed him, lol (my husband detests him).
I'll keep an eye on the speakers here, and when Cruz is up, I'll DVR his speech and turn it off.
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Thank you for that news. If he holds strong, I'm voting for him as a write in vote.
Sounds like a plan to me.
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Josh Barro @jbarro 17m17 minutes ago
Donald Trump wanted a VP to whom he could outsource "domestic and foreign policy" -- that is, the entire job.
Josh Barro @jbarro 17m17 minutes ago
Maybe Donald Trump would be too lazy to start a nuclear war?
Hopefully it's button that only works if you press it hard.
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Where the heck is that from? Is that serious?
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Nothing like that new thread smell!
Yep someone cut the cheese toward the end of that last one....
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Where the heck is that from? Is that serious?
It came from this article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/magazine/how-donald-trump-picked-his-running-mate.html?_r=2
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Yep someone cut the cheese toward the end of that last one....
Looks like the Trump supporters don't want to play on their own thread. And everything here was great until the wayward conservatives started showing up and being,... well,... conservative.
:2barf:
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It came from this article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/magazine/how-donald-trump-picked-his-running-mate.html?_r=2
Its what Trump does. The bulk of the properties with his name on them aren't owned by him. He sells the rights to his name and puts it up in gold letters. This is essentially the same thing.
If this is true the GOP would just about have to be in on it for some reason. It makes me wonder if this isn't a last ditch attempt to put their own people in power. After all, Trump has also said he might get bored with being president and decide to quit. That makes Pence the president and Trump's newfound friend Mitch McConnell the most likely to ascend to VP slot.
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Looks like the Trump supporters don't want to play on their own thread. And everything here was great until the wayward conservatives started showing up and being,... well,... conservative.
:2barf:
You may as well get ready. After the Convention, the Trumpsters are going to be all over the forum insisting that we support Trump or leave. "Can't have a divided forum. Looks bad."
I think Myst wants everybody to stick around, but it's going to be a real challenge to manage a forum that's as divided as the party.
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Hijacked in 3, 2, 1...
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Hijacked in 3, 2, 1...
So how 'bout them Astros, huh?
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You may as well get ready. After the Convention, the Trumpsters are going to be all over the forum insisting that we support Trump or leave. "Can't have a divided forum. Looks bad."
I think Myst wants everybody to stick around, but it's going to be a real challenge to manage a forum that's as divided as the party.
In reality if one side or the other here managed to convince their opposition to join them, the 1500 or so votes won't make a hill of beans of difference in the election. Getting worked up over a few people that you cannot convince to join your side is frankly childish.
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So how 'bout them Astros, huh?
:silly:
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Quote from: Just_Victor on Today at 10:17:44 AM
Looks like the Trump supporters don't want to play on their own thread. And everything here was great until the wayward conservatives started showing up and being,... well,... conservative.
:2barf:
8detect8
Touche, looks like the anti-Democracy bots have to likewise, keep up the personal attacks.
A dedicated thread really shouldn't be a problem for a website that has GOP in its name.
But the anti-Unity, anti-Democracy bots now talk of freedom? Their freedom at personal attacks is more like it.
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@RAT Patrol
You should have chosen the name RAT Petrol then we could have called you Rat Gas. :silly:
Carry on.
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8detect8
Touche, looks like the anti-Democracy bots have to likewise, keep up the personal attacks.
A dedicated thread really shouldn't be a problem for a website that has GOP in its name.
But the anti-Unity, anti-Democracy bots now talk of freedom? Their freedom at personal attacks is more like it.
Your side (with, what 10 or 12 supporters) is the one that insisted there be no negative comments about Trump on the LIVE thread.
Thus, this thread. I didn't intend for it to be divisive. I intended it to be a place for me and a few others to make our own comments about the Convention.
Now, the OPEN thread has been invaded by Trump supporters telling us what a bunch of neanderthals we are.
If I said the stuff you just said on the LIVE thread, it would get deleted. But you know it won't get deleted here.
The only personal attacks are against public figures, which we are allowed to do. No posters are being attacked over here.
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8detect8
Touche, looks like the anti-Democracy bots have to likewise, keep up the personal attacks.
A dedicated thread really shouldn't be a problem for a website that has GOP in its name.
But the anti-Unity, anti-Democracy bots now talk of freedom? Their freedom at personal attacks is more like it.
I'm not seeing where referring to a group of people (such as Trumpers or Cruzers etc.) is a personal attack. If people take it as such, they probably shouldn't engage in political debate. As far as rhetoric against the candidates themselves go, that is a time honored tradition.
As far as unity is concerned, that is something the nominee has to earn. This particular nominee ran a scorched earth campaign to get there. Unity will be very difficult.
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Donald Trump, liberal, life-long democrat, whatever; one can say that, so be it. That's freedom of speech.
But to start to accuse others, supporters or team players, of all kinds of things per civil discourse, that is a different kettle of fish. And accusing is really pretty mild as far as stating tactics used.
Likewise, a dedicated thread is not harmful; one as to not offend others; if Cruz or Rubio were the nominee, I'd appreciate that as well.
What, a website has a dedicated thread for Cruz being the nominee and one floods it with jokes about his wife?
This really does reflect the anti-Trumper's mindset though but we might as well call it anti-Democracy, anti-free speech and so on.
And no matter what, GOP is in the name of the website, thankfully, all are welcome here; but if one is posting "Republican party is dead" and all kinds of other things, that's their right but talking about wondering about motives?
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8detect8
Touche, looks like the anti-Democracy bots have to likewise, keep up the personal attacks.
A dedicated thread really shouldn't be a problem for a website that has GOP in its name.
But the anti-Unity, anti-Democracy bots now talk of freedom? Their freedom at personal attacks is more like it.
We've said all along, "We won't support Trump." These folks nominate the fool anyway. Now, we're "anti-democracy" because we won't toe the party line and be good little comrades.
This is surreal! The new Amerika!
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Sure 'nuff, it does seem hypocritical to brand Trump a liberal if Cruz supporters had their man hob-nobbing with him, primarily because their views were very close on some issues. That's the way it is.
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Your side (with, what 10 or 12 supporters) is the one that insisted there be no negative comments about Trump on the LIVE thread.
Thus, this thread. I didn't intend for it to be divisive. I intended it to be a place for me and a few others to make our own comments about the Convention.
Now, the OPEN thread has been invaded by Trump supporters telling us what a bunch of neanderthals we are.
If I said the stuff you just said on the LIVE thread, it would get deleted. But you know it won't get deleted here.
The only personal attacks are against public figures, which we are allowed to do. No posters are being attacked over here.
I have read through the thread. I didn't even know what was happening there until it was referenced here.
It is the Trump supporters who went off the rails. Sad thing is, that most of us recent deserters from TOS are not #NeverTrump. I've said this several times before (maybe to you, can't remember) while I will likely hold my nose and vote for Trump this fall, I'll be damned if I'm gonna close my eyes as to what I'm getting.
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This is soooooo much better than the Pro-Trump sanitized echo chamber.
Been busy here lately so haven't been getting my daily political fix I usually enjoy. But I logged on here at TGBR and out shouts the Convention threads at the top. I click on them and immediately see the forum has set out a special snowflake section for Trump cheerleading only that mimics our beloved TOS... I knew there had to be other threads somewhere.
@Just_Victor
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Been busy here lately so haven't been getting my daily political fix I usually enjoy. But I logged on here at TGBR and out shouts the Convention threads at the top. I click on them and immediately see the forum has set out a special snowflake section for Trump cheerleading only that mimics our beloved TOS... I knew there had to be other threads somewhere.
@Just_Victor
Pull up a chair. I'll get the coffee.
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I thought RNC was supposed to be like 1968... man 1968 must have been boring huh? :tongue2:
The only shocking thing about the convention so far is how boring it is. It's only slightly less boring than 2012, 2008, 2004, etc. etc.
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Here is how I feel, to quote Captain America:
Doesn't matter what the press says, doesn't matter what the politicians or the mobs say. Doesn't matter if the whole country decides that something wrong is something right. This nation was founded on one principle above all else: The requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or the consequences. When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world: NO, you move.
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Nothing like that new thread smell!
Sort of like the smell of a new doll...................... or a new shower curtain. :dx1:
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Nothing like that new thread smell!
Smells like feet.
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Donald Trump, liberal, life-long democrat, whatever; one can say that, so be it. That's freedom of speech.
But to start to accuse others, supporters or team players, of all kinds of things per civil discourse, that is a different kettle of fish. And accusing is really pretty mild as far as stating tactics used.
Likewise, a dedicated thread is not harmful; one as to not offend others; if Cruz or Rubio were the nominee, I'd appreciate that as well.
What, a website has a dedicated thread for Cruz being the nominee and one floods it with jokes about his wife?
This really does reflect the anti-Trumper's mindset though but we might as well call it anti-Democracy, anti-free speech and so on.
And no matter what, GOP is in the name of the website, thankfully, all are welcome here; but if one is posting "Republican party is dead" and all kinds of other things, that's their right but talking about wondering about motives?
What motives? The Republican party has committed suicide.
I am a life-long, loyal Republican, labeled all kinds of evil things at TOS because I was a so-called "Liberal" by still supporting the Republican party.
But when the GOP nominates a life-long Democrat, and the GOPe in concert with him act like leftist thugs, then the party has killed itself.
Maybe it's not a problem for you to support a party that doesn't support any values we have always held, but it does me.
My "motive" is deep sorrow that I no longer have a political party.
(And you're a hardcore Trump supporter, comparing Reagan negatively with Trump on life issues. Shouldn't you be elsewhere??)
@TomSea
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What motives? The Republican party has committed suicide.
I am a life-long, loyal Republican, labeled all kinds of evil things at TOS because I was a so-called "Liberal" by still supporting the Republican party.
But when the GOP nominates a life-long Democrat, and the GOPe in concert with him act like leftist thugs, then the party has killed itself.
Maybe it's not a problem for you to support a party that doesn't support any values we have always held, but it does me.
My "motive" is deep sorrow that I no longer have a political party.
(And you're a hardcore Trump supporter, comparing Reagan negatively with Trump on life issues. Shouldn't you be elsewhere??)
@TomSea
Oh please, will you get a grip? So sick of the melodrama in this place. Seriously.
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Your side (with, what 10 or 12 supporters) is the one that insisted there be no negative comments about Trump on the LIVE thread.
Thus, this thread. I didn't intend for it to be divisive. I intended it to be a place for me and a few others to make our own comments about the Convention.
Now, the OPEN thread has been invaded by Trump supporters telling us what a bunch of neanderthals we are.
If I said the stuff you just said on the LIVE thread, it would get deleted. But you know it won't get deleted here.
The only personal attacks are against public figures, which we are allowed to do. No posters are being attacked over here.
Seeing that ugliness this morning was the very first time since I signed on here that I was embarrassed for the forum.
It was a shameful display, and I pray we won't see anything like it again.
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You are a Trump realist as this poster is as well.
I have read through the thread. I didn't even know what was happening there until it was referenced here.
It is the Trump supporters who went off the rails. Sad thing is, that most of us recent deserters from TOS are not #NeverTrump. I've said this several times before (maybe to you, can't remember) while I will likely hold my nose and vote for Trump this fall, I'll be damned if I'm gonna close my eyes as to what I'm getting.
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Oh please, will you get a grip? So sick of the melodrama in this place. Seriously.
Do you not yet understand that people are different from each other? If you are that bothered by personal differences, just put me on IGNORE. I'm speaking my mind. I'm serious. And I'm completely 'together.'
It's not "melodrama" (though the word does come from "melody," which I like), when it's a real expression of a real situation.
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I thought RNC was supposed to be like 1968... man 1968 must have been boring huh? :tongue2:
The only shocking thing about the convention so far is how boring it is. It's only slightly less boring than 2012, 2008, 2004, etc. etc.
What a convention should look like. I doubt we'll be seeing any speeches like this one this year unless Jesus arrives and performs a miracle.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=nukzTmu8tPA
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You are a Trump realist as this poster is as well.
That's basically my viewpoint too. I know we're screwed. Only thing left is gallows humor. Except I might go with Gary Johnson or the CP guy. Depends on how much Trump annoys me.
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That's basically my viewpoint too. I know we're screwed. Only thing left is gallows humor. Except I might go with Gary Johnson or the CP guy. Depends on how much Trump annoys me.
We should not allow the 'believers' to dissuade us from voting Trump.
Nor should we refrain from trying to move Trump to the right and be pro constitution.
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Besides, that Reagan meme was funny. People need to lighten up a little.
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Your side (with, what 10 or 12 supporters) is the one that insisted there be no negative comments about Trump on the LIVE thread.
Thus, this thread. I didn't intend for it to be divisive. I intended it to be a place for me and a few others to make our own comments about the Convention.
Now, the OPEN thread has been invaded by Trump supporters telling us what a bunch of neanderthals we are.
If I said the stuff you just said on the LIVE thread, it would get deleted. But you know it won't get deleted here.
The only personal attacks are against public figures, which we are allowed to do. No posters are being attacked over here.
More like "The only personal attacks that are suppose to be allowed are against public figures,"
I don't respond back to personal attacks, I do put those people on my ignore list, lengthy now because I was not going to respond in kind nor do I care to be a tattle tail. What you said here is patently false.
" No posters are being attacked over here."
But I do think it says something in that, though I'm sure there are exceptions, Trump folk do not make personal attacks all that much. This is definitely not reciprocal.
It has gotten that in public discourse in such threads, I will state an opinion; I will not watch for a response, it has been that bad.
Who called someone a "pothole" and is going on one's ignore list? A Trumpster did not say it. I can outline alot of these attacks but I'm not going to waste time enumerating such.
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Boy, this really elevates the political discussion.
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My comment here has nothing to do with the actual convention, but I want to tell you about this happening:
A member of this family is a pilot for a major airline (which I won't say the name). Pilots have to go through the TSA "inspection" line just as everyone else. Pilots are moved to the head of the line so they can get to the flight line (airplane) as quickly as possible.
In this USA major airport, he was not moved forward, was at the back of the line. The inspector person was a black woman. When he was his turn, he told the person that pilots are moved to the front to get to their plane. This person said they treat everyone the same. He asked to speak to her manager.
The woman MANAGER came and she was dressed in a FULL BURKA, only her eyes could be seen. This Burka wearing woman is in charge of airport inspections.
This pilot is a conservative Christian person, knows a plane inside and out, could fix, and has, anything wrong with a plane. He wanted to be a pilot when he was six years old and stayed with that until he is now almost in his 50s. You would want him flying your plane. He had a real problem with a Burka wearing woman in charge of inspections.
DO YOU SEE A PROBLEM WITH THIS? I was astounded the TSA is hiring Muslims for work in our airports. I think this employment of Muslims in airports leads directly back to Obama. The TSA rules are written by Obama's chosen people under his guidelines.
I will add to this, several weeks ago, we went through a Walgreens drive through to pick up medicine for me. The person in the window handling my medicine was a woman in a Hijab, her head completely covered. I have a problem with Muslims working in a pharmacy, determining which medicine they put in your prescriptions.
If a person is dressed in Muslim clothing, that indicates to me they are members of a Mosque and adhere to Sharia law. I prefer to have my medicine filled by non Muslims and do not want Sharia law Muslims working in airports so close to our airplanes. Call me prejudiced against Muslims if you want, but I don't care, it is Sharia law Muslims killing us.
@sinkspur
@Cripplecreek
@RAT Patrol
@bolobaby
@EC
@CatherineofAragon
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Oh please, will you get a grip? So sick of the melodrama in this place. Seriously.
This is a discussion forum, if you can't contribute to that, please spare me your self-righteousness.
Another round about personal attack by the anti-Trumpsters.
Like water off a duck's back.
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Boy, this really elevates the political discussion.
:silly:
At least it's entertaining.
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But R4 TrumpPence said we should have two threads. And everything was fine until just now. Maybe it's because we had 300 more posts than the "LIVE" thread. Or that most of the posters are over here.
There seems to be an attitude that, just like the GOP Convention, there will be no dissension, no disagreement, no expression of opinion contrary to Trumpism.
And, just like in Cleveland, you see the result. It is the Trump people who are lashing out, not those of us who are engaging in free speech and discussion.
You may as well get ready. After the Convention, the Trumpsters are going to be all over the forum insisting that we support Trump or leave. "Can't have a divided forum. Looks bad."
I think Myst wants everybody to stick around, but it's going to be a real challenge to manage a forum that's as divided as the party.
Exactly correct. Some of us warned Myst that this is exactly what would happen, because the Trump Militant are as despotic as the NY Liberal Leftist that they say they want to defeat with THEIR NY Liberal Leftist.
We have already experienced the factual evidence to prove that the mobs for Trump demand oaths of fealty or purges and punishments. And what they do online, is just a microcosm of what they will want to do in the meat world. Nothing new under the sun folks.
Trumpism is just Fascism by another name. We got to witness how a mob motivated by that kind of mindset operates on a supposedly 'open' thread. They cannot tolerate any dissent whatsoever and all opposition MUST be silenced and shut down, principles ridiculed and insulted. That is how shallow their belief in liberty is. They have invested mind, body and spirit to a Trojan Stalking Horse that they want to save them from the person whom Trump himself financed and endorsed. The rabid supporters as we read last night and this morning, have gone full blown over into idolatry with foam-at-the-mouth invective and demands for purging and banning, just as you witnessed has happened on myriad other former Conservative forums in the past year.
They cannot and will not tolerate any opposition from Principled Conservatives to their political savior. They have declared us the enemy and actually hate us worse than the Democrats they supposedly fear. They have said we are 'dangerous' and an 'existential threat' to the nation. Harsh Despotisms are born and fostered in such environments.
Nothing new under the sun.
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At least it's entertaining.
This is a discussion forum, if you can't contribute to it but act self-righteous with round-about personal attacks, I would not be so critical of others.
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But to start to accuse others, supporters or team players, of all kinds of things per civil discourse, that is a different kettle of fish. And accusing is really pretty mild as far as stating tactics used.
You mean like accusing people of being "anti-democracy" if they don't surrender their principles and support comrade Trump?
Yeah. Like that.
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This is a discussion forum, if you can't contribute to it but act self-righteous with round-about personal attacks, I would not be so critical of others.
Yes it is a discussion forum, and I am discussing. What are you doing?
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You mean like accusing people of being "anti-democracy" if they don't surrender their principles and support comrade Trump?
Yeah. Like that.
Preach it brother, they should see an example of their typical work on others!
No better way to learn than by example, you got that darn tootin' right if people can't conduct themselves well enough in the first place.
Exactly like that!
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Yes it is a discussion forum, and I am discussing. What are you doing?
I recalled one calling someone's post as being melodramatic or something and telling me to get a grip! That's what I saw!
Enjoy your fart cartoons buddy, sorry you disagree with me.
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My comment here has nothing to do with the actual convention, but I want to tell you about this happening:
A member of this family is a pilot for a major airline (which I won't say the name). Pilots have to go through the TSA "inspection" line just as everyone else. Pilots are moved to the head of the line so they can get to the flight line (airplane) as quickly as possible.
In this USA major airport, he was not moved forward, was at the back of the line. The inspector person was a black woman. When he was his turn, he told the person that pilots are moved to the front to get to their plane. This person said they treat everyone the same. He asked to speak to her manager.
The woman MANAGER came and she was dressed in a FULL BURKA, only her eyes could be seen. This Burka wearing woman is in charge of airport inspections.
This pilot is a conservative Christian person, knows a plane inside and out, could fix, and has, anything wrong with a plane. He wanted to be a pilot when he was six years old and stayed with that until he is now almost in his 50s. You would want him flying your plane. He had a real problem with a Burka wearing woman in charge of inspections.
DO YOU SEE A PROBLEM WITH THIS? I was astounded the TSA is hiring Muslims for work in our airports. I think this employment of Muslims in airports leads directly back to Obama. The TSA rules are written by Obama's chosen people under his guidelines.
I will add to this, several weeks ago, we went through a Walgreens drive through to pick up medicine for me. The person in the window handling my medicine was a woman in a Hijab, her head completely covered. I have a problem with Muslims working in a pharmacy, determining which medicine they put in your prescriptions.
If a person is dressed in Muslim clothing, that indicates to me they are members of a Mosque and adhere to Sharia law. I prefer to have my medicine filled by non Muslims and do not want Sharia law Muslims working in airports so close to our airplanes. Call me prejudiced against Muslims if you want, but I don't care, it is Sharia law Muslims killing us.
goopo
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I recalled one calling someone's post as being melodramatic or something and telling me to get a grip! That's what I saw!
Enjoy your fart cartoons buddy, sorry you disagree with me.
Anyone that wrapped up in politics needs to get a grip IMO. We are all "little people" and can only do so much. Sure, vote, advocate, etc. There's an entire non-political world out there with so much to offer.
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Yep someone cut the cheese toward the end of that last one....
'Twas a veritable Dutch Oven.
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Preach it brother, they should see an example of their typical work on others!
No better way to learn than by example, you got that darn tootin' right if people can't conduct themselves well enough in the first place.
Exactly like that!
Is there any relevance to the Convention in your posting here, Tom? Or in politics, or any other germane topic?
Just curious, because if you're here to disrupt only, perhaps you should reconsider.....
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My comment here has nothing to do with the actual convention, but I want to tell you about this happening:
A member of this family is a pilot for a major airline (which I won't say the name). Pilots have to go through the TSA "inspection" line just as everyone else. Pilots are moved to the head of the line so they can get to the flight line (airplane) as quickly as possible.
In this USA major airport, he was not moved forward, was at the back of the line. The inspector person was a black woman. When he was his turn, he told the person that pilots are moved to the front to get to their plane. This person said they treat everyone the same. He asked to speak to her manager.
The woman MANAGER came and she was dressed in a FULL BURKA, only her eyes could be seen. This Burka wearing woman is in charge of airport inspections.
This pilot is a conservative Christian person, knows a plane inside and out, could fix, and has, anything wrong with a plane. He wanted to be a pilot when he was six years old and stayed with that until he is now almost in his 50s. You would want him flying your plane. He had a real problem with a Burka wearing woman in charge of inspections.
DO YOU SEE A PROBLEM WITH THIS? I was astounded the TSA is hiring Muslims for work in our airports. I think this employment of Muslims in airports leads directly back to Obama. The TSA rules are written by Obama's chosen people under his guidelines.
I will add to this, several weeks ago, we went through a Walgreens drive through to pick up medicine for me. The person in the window handling my medicine was a woman in a Hijab, her head completely covered. I have a problem with Muslims working in a pharmacy, determining which medicine they put in your prescriptions.
If a person is dressed in Muslim clothing, that indicates to me they are members of a Mosque and adhere to Sharia law. I prefer to have my medicine filled by non Muslims and do not want Sharia law Muslims working in airports so close to our airplanes. Call me prejudiced against Muslims if you want, but I don't care, it is Sharia law Muslims killing us.
@sinkspur
@Cripplecreek
@RAT Patrol
@bolobaby
@EC
@CatherineofAragon
The media has you in a state of constant fear.
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Anyone that wrapped up in politics needs to get a grip IMO. We are all "little people" and can only do so much. Sure, vote, advocate, etc. There's an entire non-political world out there with so much to offer.
I actually HAVE a grip, Weird. So you can stop worrying about me....... KAY??? :patriot:
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"When Ted Cruz takes the stage here on Wednesday evening, what he doesn’t say will be as important as what he does: Though he accepted a primetime speaking spot at the convention that officially nominated Donald Trump on Tuesday, Cruz will not endorse the Republican nominee, according to two sources familiar with his plans."
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438086/ted-cruz-republican-convention-speech-high-stakes-2020
I look forward to Ted's stirring speech touching on traditional small government conservative values with a nod to constitutional originalism...
... then stating that the Republican Party has bailed out on all of that...
"BAM!"
(https://33.media.tumblr.com/225dfab2632f3d2537e3fc22b57ceb0e/tumblr_inline_o1n3okBfDM1r10duz_500.gif)
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Anyone that wrapped up in politics needs to get a grip IMO. We are all "little people" and can only do so much. Sure, vote, advocate, etc. There's an entire non-political world out there with so much to offer.
And you can do FAR less now than before the rules package that got rammed through at the convention Monday night!
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Preach it brother, they should see an example of their typical work on others!
No better way to learn than by example, you got that darn tootin' right if people can't conduct themselves well enough in the first place.
Exactly like that!
Hrm, well. I out you and you say, "Just mimicking y'all."
I bet my experience today will be a lot more pleasant with you on ignore since you only seem intent on rabble-rousing.
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I look forward to Ted's stirring speech touching on traditional small government conservative values with a nod to constitutional originalism...
... then stating that the Republican Party has bailed out on all of that...
"BAM!"
Man, I hope he does that!
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Anyone that wrapped up in politics needs to get a grip IMO. We are all "little people" and can only do so much. Sure, vote, advocate, etc. There's an entire non-political world out there with so much to offer.
That ^
This is a DISCUSSION forum. In spite of anyone's elevated sense of importance we do not influence a damn thing here. We vent discuss argue, at times educate.
I wish certain self important thin skinned types would get that through their melons.
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Anyone that wrapped up in politics needs to get a grip IMO. We are all "little people" and can only do so much. Sure, vote, advocate, etc. There's an entire non-political world out there with so much to offer.
Precisely. I'll repeat myself from up-thread aways.
In reality if one side or the other here managed to convince their opposition to join them, the 1500 or so votes won't make a hill of beans of difference in the election. Getting worked up over a few people that you cannot convince to join your side is frankly childish.
Added: HEY!!! I think you just told us all to get a life?! :pondering:
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I also participate on Twitter, follow both pro-Trump and anti/Never-Trump people and it's actually worse there. So maybe I'm influenced by that in addition.
But I'm just sick and tired of melodrama.
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That ^
This is a DISCUSSION forum. In spite of anyone's elevated sense of importance we do not influence a damn thing here. We vent discuss argue, at times educate.
I wish certain self important thin skinned types would get that through their melons.
Except that Weird addressed that to ME, and it had no relevance to the reality of my life. I have vented sadly about the loss of my party. That's it. My life is wonderful, and his chastisement of me was just plain silly.
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I'm in.
Cool. Hey did you see after Cruz speaks Melania is going to preform he new single. "Like A Virgin"
Donald's a virgin
Untouched like rare vintage wine
He's a virgin
Heard him beat his (f)eat
All the time!
He would surely not confess
He would never tell the truth
With girl's- he's a lost cause
No girls he's screwed
His tales were neat, but repeats
Of the sack: he was one sad dude
He would never reveal
That his girlfriends weren't real
But his porn mags were brand new!
Oooh, oooh, oooh... baby!
[That was me in the other room]
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I also participate on Twitter, follow both pro-Trump and anti/Never-Trump people and it's actually worse there. So maybe I'm influenced by that in addition.
But I'm just sick and tired of melodrama.
Nothing I said was melodramatic. Get a grip, Weird. :beer:
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Hrm, well. I out you and you say, "Just mimicking y'all."
I bet my experience today will be a lot more pleasant with you on ignore since you only seem intent on rabble-rousing.
Anti-Trumpsters, whatever they are, once again, resort to personal attack, you told me you are putting someone on ignore. Likewise, I can say that about you.
Anti-Trumpsters or whatever can't debate an issue in honesty.
So be it, personal attack again!
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Except that Weird addressed that to ME, and it had no relevance to the reality of my life. I have vented sadly about the loss of my party. That's it. My life is wonderful, and his chastisement of me was just plain silly.
Sorry I did not notice the context, only the basic message.
My comment is directed a certain other posters who seem hysterical that there exists alternative points of view, and say things like 'you're helping Hillary win', etc.
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You may as well get ready. After the Convention, the Trumpsters are going to be all over the forum insisting that we support Trump or leave. "Can't have a divided forum. Looks bad." I think Myst wants everybody to stick around, but it's going to be a real challenge to manage a forum that's as divided as the party.
Well, the part owner who yelled at us using vile language this morning, said we had been thrown off FR. I wasn't thrown off, still have an account there just as numerous others on this forum said back to this part owner. It is clear he wants us off this forum as does another part owner. My financial contribution appears to not be welcome here if I am not welcome. Myst, another part owner, does want us here. We will have to see if she is overruled and we are banned.
Banning does not remove the reality of Trump who should never be president of the local "Association of Nude Models", nor of the USA. I see WWIII happening if he is president, and would vote for Clinton instead of him. I expect the Constitution Party will get my vote.
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I look forward to Ted's stirring speech touching on traditional small government conservative values with a nod to constitutional originalism...
... then stating that the Republican Party has bailed out on all of that...
"BAM!"
(https://33.media.tumblr.com/225dfab2632f3d2537e3fc22b57ceb0e/tumblr_inline_o1n3okBfDM1r10duz_500.gif)
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Repub4TrumpPence has nothing to apologize about,
I can be here because I was a Walker support, or Cruz support or Perry Supporter but above all, a GOP supporter, so no one should not be bullied out of here because they want to say "Trump supporters have their own thread", whoopie!
Repub4TumpPence has nothing to apologize about, those dissatisfied with the process to really nothing but aim personal attacks at others. Without naming names, no one should feel bullied in a forum. That' means abuse.
Sorry, that's the way it is, it is as some forums say, discuss the issues not the poster. Very weak.
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Oh, so now it's cool to rant and rave and spew profanities at people you disagree with? I mean, I know liberals do that, but I thought this was not a liberal site...although with all the Trump supporters here, I should have known better.
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Well, the part owner who yelled at us using vile language this morning, said we had been thrown off FR. I wasn't thrown off, still have an account there just as numerous others on this forum said back to this part owner. It is clear he wants us off this forum as does another part owner. My financial contribution appears to not be welcome here if I am not welcome. Myst, another part owner, does want us here. We will have to see if she is overruled and we are banned.
Banning does not remove the reality of Trump who should never be president of the local "Association of Nude Models", nor of the USA. I see WWIII happening if he is president, and would vote for Clinton instead of him. I expect the Constitution Party will get my vote.
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Repub4TrumpPence has nothing to apologize about,
I can be here because I was a Walker support, or Cruz support or Perry Supporter but above all, a GOP supporter, so no one should not be bullied out of here because they want to say "Trump supporters have their own thread", whoopie!
Repub4TumpPence has nothing to apologize about, those dissatisfied with the process to really nothing but aim personal attacks at others. Without naming names, no one should feel bullied in a forum. That' means abuse.
Sorry, that's the way it is, it is as some forums say, discuss the issues not the poster. Very weak.
R4TrumpPence SHOULD apologize. When you trash your own members, then that is a problem.
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Well, the part owner who yelled at us using vile language this morning, said we had been thrown off FR. I wasn't thrown off, still have an account there just as numerous others on this forum said back to this part owner. It is clear he wants us off this forum as does another part owner. My financial contribution appears to not be welcome here if I am not welcome. Myst, another part owner, does want us here. We will have to see if she is overruled and we are banned.
Banning does not remove the reality of Trump who should never be president of the local "Association of Nude Models", nor of the USA. I see WWIII happening if he is president, and would vote for Clinton instead of him. I expect the Constitution Party will get my vote.
AMEM!
:hands: :hands: :hands: :hands: :hands:
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The Cruz Trump alliance has ended, it really is Trump's fault for making to brash of statements.
If Trump is liberal, while Cruz is conservative, it's pretty hypocritical.
(http://blackchristiannews.com/go/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/trump-cruz-1-463x350.jpg)
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Well, the part owner who yelled at us using vile language this morning, said we had been thrown off FR. I wasn't thrown off, still have an account there just as numerous others on this forum said back to this part owner. It is clear he wants us off this forum as does another part owner. My financial contribution appears to not be welcome here if I am not welcome. Myst, another part owner, does want us here. We will have to see if she is overruled and we are banned.
Banning does not remove the reality of Trump who should never be president of the local "Association of Nude Models", nor of the USA. I see WWIII happening if he is president, and would vote for Clinton instead of him. I expect the Constitution Party will get my vote.
She is welcome to ban me. I have not been banned at TOS, but mostly because I have a new place to go; here.
I may vote for Trump, but his lack of conservative principles leaves him very open for criticism in my book.
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Sorry I did not notice the context, only the basic message.
My comment is directed a certain other posters who seem hysterical that there exists alternative points of view, and say things like 'you're helping Hillary win', etc.
Absolutely agree! Some of the behavior around here has been disgraceful.
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Oh, so now it's cool to rant and rave and spew profanities at people you disagree with? I mean, I know liberals do that, but I thought this was not a liberal site...although with all the Trump supporters here, I should have known better.
I saw no profanity, I did not read all posts, again, one can note one by one, if one doesn't walk lockstep in hate of Trump, the previous page shows there are personal attacks, WTF, BB.
I still don't mind R4TP's remarks though, seeing the abuse that those who don't march lockstep in Trump hate endure though.
It be from Cruz supporters which seems a lot of it or from others.
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Oh, so now it's cool to rant and rave and spew profanities at people you disagree with? I mean, I know liberals do that, but I thought this was not a liberal site...although with all the Trump supporters here, I should have known better.
Trump Supporters gotta Trump.
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We should not allow the 'believers' to dissuade us from voting Trump.
Nor should we refrain from trying to move Trump to the right and be pro constitution.
Every critical post I make about Trump has exactly that in mind. Hopefully, Cruz delivers on Conservatism 101 tonight and Trump is listening instead if interviewing with Ted Baxter.
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I saw no profanity, I did not read all posts, again, one can note one by one, if one doesn't walk lockstep in hate of Trump, the previous page shows there are personal attacks, WTF, BB.
I still don't mind R4TP's remarks though, seeing the abuse that those who don't march lockstep in Trump hate endure though.
It be from Cruz supporters which seems a lot of it or from others.
Tom, you're being intentionally provocative. You've made about a dozen posts on this thread and they all seem aimed at baiting others into an argument.
We know you feel R4 TrumpPence was justified. That's fine. Enough.
Let's get back to discussing the Convention and other issues and be done with the navel gazing toward the forum.
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I would like to propose a metaphor to describe the current state of the GOP:
Ten friends decide they want to go out for dinner. Four of the friends say, "Let's get seafood!" Some of the other friends object and the friends admit, "Well, I'd be satisfied with Mexican food, but I really want seafood!"
Three of the friends say, "I can't eat seafood. It makes me physically ill. I'm 'never seafood.' How about Italian? They might have some seafood type dishes there..."
"Wait," says a few friends, "If those four are OK with Mexican, maybe we should just do that?"
Finally the friends say, "Let's put it to a vote. We'll go to whatever restaurant gets the most votes."
"Well, OK guys, but let me remind you: we three won't eat seafood, it makes us physically ill."
The vote is cast.
4 for seafood
3 for Italian
3 for Mexican
"Great!" exclaim the seafood proponents. "Seafood it is!" They and three others agree that the rules were set, and they are going to the seafood restaurant.
"Well," say the three who hate seafood, "we're hungry too, so we are going to the Italian restaurant. See you later."
The seafood crowd goes apoplectic. "You're anti-democracy! We agreed to take a vote! You have to eat seafood! *You* are breaking up our outing! We hate you! Go to hell!"
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What was done by that part owner was shameful.
She, in essence, told the majority of posters on the forum, that we should be banned because we criticize Trump.
But if none of us go anywhere, and keep posting calmly, our thoughts and ideals, we will, in time, overrule the emotional bombast and childish behavior that was exhibited on yesterday's thread.
Couldn't have said it better. Perfect.
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Your side (with, what 10 or 12 supporters) is the one that insisted there be no negative comments about Trump on the LIVE thread.
Thus, this thread. I didn't intend for it to be divisive. I intended it to be a place for me and a few others to make our own comments about the Convention.
Now, the OPEN thread has been invaded by Trump supporters telling us what a bunch of neanderthals we are.
If I said the stuff you just said on the LIVE thread, it would get deleted. But you know it won't get deleted here.
The only personal attacks are against public figures, which we are allowed to do. No posters are being attacked over here.
Well....no pro-Trump posters, any way. Why are the pro-Trumpers being allowed to troll and inflame over here. Why don't they stay over at their nice, safe, censored thread? (rhetorical question since I know why, just pointing out their hypocrisy)
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Repub4TumpPence has nothing to apologize about, those dissatisfied with the process to really nothing but aim personal attacks at others. Without naming names, no one should feel bullied in a forum. That' means abuse.
A greater example of projection you will never find, given the four-letter vulgar invective and vitriol that that Repub4TumpPence let fly on yesterday's Convention thread towards all of us who oppose Trump.
'No one should feel bullied on a forum' is a pretty lame statement when one of the owners spewed profanity at former members of FR that do no support Trump and told them to get off her board.
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The media has you in a state of constant fear.
Media means nothing to me - the reality of Muslims killing people does. I live 30 minutes from Garland, Texas, where Muslim terrorists were killed, and from Dallas where a terrorist killed five policemen. Maybe you live in a cave where Muslim killers won't find you.
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So hey y'all. Finally on the new thread, darn work kept distracting me...
From what I can tell the only outbreak of derangement at yesterday's convention (aside from the attempted messing about with the delegate votes) was the appearance of a tweet from a white nationalist on the "big board" that runs around the convention hall. Pretty small beer that only political junkies might notice, IMHO. :shrug:
So the highlight today will be Sen. Cruz's speech. While I'll listen and expect to hear a decent speech, I doubt I'll hear what I really want to hear (that he's leaving the party and will run for reelection to his Senate seat as a member of the Constitution Party). But who knows, stranger things have happened, especially nowadays. 10294
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And you can do FAR lees now than before the rules package that got rammed through at the convention Monday night!
Most UNDERreported story of the week.
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The Cruz Trump alliance has ended, it really is Trump's fault for making to brash of statements.
If Trump is liberal, while Cruz is conservative, it's pretty hypocritical.
(http://blackchristiannews.com/go/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/trump-cruz-1-463x350.jpg)
I don't know why you keep harping on this,Tom. Cruz was gracious to all the candidates. He tried to stay above personal attacks and treat all the candidates with respect. There was a whole lot of ballyhoo used against Cruz for being cordial to Bush and Rubio, too. It is just who he is, a polite, respectful man. He thought everyone was going to debate the issues and he was ready for that. He wasn't trying to make enemies, he was trying to create unity.
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So, I see we no longer have a big red link to our thread. ~sigh~ I thought I had found a home **nononono*
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Its what Trump does. The bulk of the properties with his name on them aren't owned by him. He sells the rights to his name and puts it up in gold letters. This is essentially the same thing.
If this is true the GOP would just about have to be in on it for some reason. It makes me wonder if this isn't a last ditch attempt to put their own people in power. After all, Trump has also said he might get bored with being president and decide to quit. That makes Pence the president and Trump's newfound friend Mitch McConnell the most likely to ascend to VP slot.
Oh....God help us. I can't stomach that turtle-faced creep.
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Oh you are right. I don't know what's up with that. I believe there is a battle at the top going on. What else explains all the fiip flopping. I know who the good guys are and as of this morning, I also know who the bad guys are.
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Oh you are right. I don't know what's up with that. I believe there is a battle at the top going on. What else explains all the fiip flopping. I know who the good guys are and as of this morning, I also know who the bad guys are.
I cannot believe any of the owners think this site can affect outcomes at a national level in any sense.
Its a discussion forum, its not a PAC.
I cannot believe they would blow up their creation like Jim Robinson blew up his.
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Anyone that wrapped up in politics needs to get a grip IMO. We are all "little people" and can only do so much. Sure, vote, advocate, etc. There's an entire non-political world out there with so much to offer.
If this wasn't a political forum that you were reading and posting on, then that might not sound so crazy.
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So, I see we no longer have a big red link to our thread. ~sigh~ I thought I had found a home **nononono*
No worries. Just go to the Home Page, scroll down to the bottom where Recent Posts are and you'll find dozens of posts on this thread. That other thread....the one that's pretty much deserted...not so much. No wonder they need a BIG RED link.....lol.
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Most UNDERreported story of the week.
Yes it most certainly is.
But the Trump fanatics don't care.
Their prince has been "nominated" and that is all that matters to them, because they are convinced that he will stop the oceans from rising, the borders from being violated and corporations from stealing jobs.
They repeat that they are the grassroots and Trump represents the grassroots (an absurdity in itself) without any care or concern that the rules package voted on Monday just eliminated the grassroots from having any influence on decisions the GOP Establishment makes as to how their party is run, and who can be a candidate in their party.
They have convinced themselves Trump performed a hostile takeover of the GOP for the little people, and even when Trump lofts up McConnell and Ryan and Dole into entrenched leadership positions - they continue to scream out loud that Trump is the grassroots and that he will save the nation.
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Trump finally found somebody to shoot. This reads as if she wrote it with a gun to her head. And, she implicates Melania in the plagiarism:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn0nELVUEAE0eMb.jpg)
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Trump finally found somebody to shoot. This reads as if she wrote it with a gun to her head. And, she implicates Melania in the plagiarism:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn0nELVUEAE0eMb.jpg)
:bigsilly: :bigsilly: :bigsilly:
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Trump finally found somebody to shoot. This reads as if she wrote it with a gun to her head. And, she implicates Melania in the plagiarism:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn0nELVUEAE0eMb.jpg)
Hey....is anybody compiling a list of Trump's scapegoats and sacrificial lambs yet? Kind of along the lines of the Clintons' Deaths List, I expect the Trump list will grow exponentially....really fast now.
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A gift for the other (closed) board members whose names cannot be mentioned but who (hint) love the color orange:
(http://www.livescience.com/images/i/000/062/845/original/lithium-meds.jpg?interpolation=lanczos-none&fit=around%7C300:200&crop=300:200;*,*)
I have always hated the color orange. Now I know why.
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So, I see we no longer have a big red link to our thread. ~sigh~ I thought I had found a home
You are right - no big red link at the top, it has been removed. That is a typical Trump move - use power in any way to hide others who have a difference of opinion.
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Trump finally found somebody to shoot. This reads as if she wrote it with a gun to her head. And, she implicates Melania in the plagiarism:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn0nELVUEAE0eMb.jpg)
Nah. Trump's real life Luca Brasi was standing behind playing with piano wire...
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So she is a fan of Michelle Obama? That's interesting.
None of that bothers the Trump faithful.
They are screaming at you and me to get behind their 'nominee' because "we have to stop Hillary" - having jumped through hoops of convolution to absolve the fact that Trump supported and funded the Clintons and other Marxist Communists like Bill DeBlasio.
There is praise of the Obama's and Trump had praise for Hillary (as a great Senator from NY), but watch Trump's guns (and those of his acolytes) remain firmly fixed on Conservatives who will not bend the knee.
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So she is a fan of Michelle Obama? That's interesting.
She's a Trump, isn't she?
*dives for cover*
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So she is a fan of Michelle Obama? That's interesting.
Mistake no. 2.
I would rather she just didn't know what to say so decided to borrow from the last presumptive nominee's wife's speech.
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Media means nothing to me - the reality of Muslims killing people does. I live 30 minutes from Garland, Texas, where Muslim terrorists were killed, and from Dallas where a terrorist killed five policemen. Maybe you live in a cave where Muslim killers won't find you.
I live in Boston, where Muslim terror has indeed struck. But I have no fear of people in hijabs and such, because I know that statistically I have a greater fear of being in a car accident then being the victim of a terrorist. And no that does not mean that we shouldn't be vigilant, but if someone wants to wear a hijab and work in a pharmacy, then more power to her. Because this is America.
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So, I see we no longer have a big red link to our thread.
Well, isn't that interesting? :LAME:
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Sort of like the smell of a new doll...................... or a new shower curtain. :dx1:
Gotta love the smell of off-gassing polycarbonates. :laugh:
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Well, isn't that interesting? :LAME:
I take it @R4 TrumPence is a bit bitter about last night. I've learned through a lot of trial and error to NEVER PISS OFF A WOMAN...lol.
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You are right - no big red link at the top, it has been removed. That is a typical Trump move - use power in any way to hide others who have a difference of opinion.
It's what life will be like everywhere should Trump actually be awarded the Throne. The only prominence that will exist is support for TRUMP. Any opposition will be relegated to the basements until the trucks come to cart us off to camps.
Dissent will be quashed and removed, banned and silenced to great applause from those asserting Trump is saving the nation.
It is why I think Trump and his mobs pose a greater immediate danger to your liberty than Hildabeast and her Commies do. You see it in their comments and behavior, which - let's be honest, mimic their Champion's behaviors and comments.
The Godfather references are possibly a lot closer to the truth than those of us joking about the parallels even know.
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So she is a fan of Michelle Obama? That's interesting.
Well we already know that Trump's family was unable to vote for him in the NY primary because they couldn't switch their registration (from Democrat) early enough. Now suddenly they're all solid pubbies? Not bloody likely.
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@mrpotatohead
Speaking as a woman, someone should have just thrown Midol and chocolate at her and backed away slowly.
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I take it @R4 TrumPence is a bit bitter about last night. I've learned through a lot of trial and error to NEVER PISS OFF A WOMAN...lol.
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So, I see we no longer have a big red link to our thread. ~sigh~ I thought I had found a home **nononono*
@AbaraXas took care of that. And @mystery-ak will do it too.
Can someone give us a link above the fold, please?
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Well....no pro-Trump posters, any way. Why are the pro-Trumpers being allowed to troll and inflame over here. Why don't they stay over at their nice, safe, censored thread? (rhetorical question since I know why, just pointing out their hypocrisy)
Cuz we can take it. So, they come wave their red flag in front of the bull over here. Doesn't bother me.
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Oh you are right. I don't know what's up with that. I believe there is a battle at the top going on. What else explains all the fiip flopping. I know who the good guys are and as of this morning, I also know who the bad guys are.
Yet our free speech here persists...
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Gotta love the smell of off-gassing polycarbonates. :laugh:
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And the fanbots don't care. Amazing.
Of course not. Just like the liblefties, there's special consideration for "special" people (ie anyone they deem "special").
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Trump finally found somebody to shoot. This reads as if she wrote it with a gun to her head. And, she implicates Melania in the plagiarism:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn0nELVUEAE0eMb.jpg)
What happened to the speech written by Matthew Skully and John McConnell and what did Melania dislike about it? (I have a theory in that, btw)
http://therightscoop.com/uh-oh-turns-out-melanias-speechwriter-did-not-add-the-plagiarized-part/
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OPEN LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - WEDNESDAY, JULY 20
Let's rock n' roll. Ted Cruz coming up tonight.
They will try to BOO Ted Cruz off the stage
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I take it @R4 TrumPence is a bit bitter about last night. I've learned through a lot of trial and error to NEVER PISS OFF A WOMAN...lol.
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Does anyone else have this (somewhat irrational) premonition that DT is going to walk out on stage Thursday, say "You all are a bunch of suckers, thus endeth the GOP, enjoy the Clintons," drop the mic, then walk out?
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I think they plan to boo Ted Cruz off the stage when he tries to speak.
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Does anyone else have this (somewhat irrational) premonition that DT is going to walk out on stage Thursday, say "You all are a bunch of suckers, thus endeth the GOP, enjoy the Clintons," drop the mic, then walk out?
I said it months ago, he could come out and endorse Hillary.
Then what?
How would they take the nomination away? Is there even a process for that? Oh wait, they now make up the rules as they please.
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I think they plan to boo Ted Cruz off the stage when he tries to speak.
It wouldn't surprise me.
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They will try to BOO Ted Cruz off the stage
Let em. That'd only highlight the rift between constitutional conservatism and the Trump cartel.
Besides, Ted would be able to handle that.
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What happened to the speech written by Matthew Skully and John McConnell and what did Melania dislike about it? (I have a theory in that, btw)
http://therightscoop.com/uh-oh-turns-out-melanias-speechwriter-did-not-add-the-plagiarized-part/
Soooo...Mrs. Trump has always liked Michelle Obama. That should set off even more red flags about this liberal NYC-bred family...
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Does anyone else have this (somewhat irrational) premonition that DT is going to walk out on stage Thursday, say "You all are a bunch of suckers, thus endeth the GOP, enjoy the Clintons," drop the mic, then walk out?
Yep, that thought had occurred to me as well. Not entirely impossible, I think.
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I see Myst is back and posting on the censored, totalitarian convention thread and the open thread doesn't even get a link at the top of the page any more. Wow.
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I think they plan to boo Ted Cruz off the stage when he tries to speak.
Yeah, I have no doubt that it's coming. Party unity and all that jive...
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Most UNDERreported story of the week.
OH yeah! And there is a reason for that!
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They will try to BOO Ted Cruz off the stage
CRUZ ABOUT TO SPEAK RIGHT NOW. I HAVE TV ON CNN AND CRUZ ABOUT TO SPEAK!
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Soooo...Mrs. Trump has always liked Michelle Obama. That should set off even more red flags about this liberal NYC-bred family...
Ben Carson celebrates their shared values with the Obama's
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CRUZ ABOUT TO SPEAK RIGHT NOW. I HAVE TV ON CNN AND CRUZ ABOUT TO SPEAK!
so, not even in prime time, wow
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I see Myst is back and posting on the censored, totalitarian convention thread and the open thread doesn't even get a link at the top of the page any more. Wow.
Yeah, nice.
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@mrpotatohead
Speaking as a woman, someone should have just thrown Midol and chocolate at her and backed away slowly.
(http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/what-if-girls-had-apostrophes-instead-of-periods.png)
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I think they plan to boo Ted Cruz off the stage when he tries to speak.
Surely they won't try that. Man...how awful would that be.
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How on earth can Melania be a fan of "for the first time in my life I am proud to be an American" Michelle?
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Does anyone else have this (somewhat irrational) premonition that DT is going to walk out on stage Thursday, say "You all are a bunch of suckers, thus endeth the GOP, enjoy the Clintons," drop the mic, then walk out?
He won't be quite that brazen about it but that is exactly what will happen over the next few months!
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I see Myst is back and posting on the censored, totalitarian convention thread and the open thread doesn't even get a link at the top of the page any more. Wow.
myst's last post on that thread was 0700. She is not currently online 1358 hrs edt
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I said it months ago, he could come out and endorse Hillary.
Then what?
How would they take the nomination away? Is there even a process for that? Oh wait, they now make up the rules as they please.
He'll probally be more subtle and pull a John McCain at some point and start saying the kind of things about Hillary that he was saying 4 years ago.
The irony must be lost on many that we ended up with the only Rebuplican candidate on record praising Bill Clinton's presidency and Hillary's work as Sec. of State. The guy who started his campaign becuase of a phone call with the Clintons is the only one that can stop the Clintons.
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How on earth can Melania be a fan of "for the first time in my life I am proud to be an American" Michelle?
How and why are they registered Democrats? Why ask why? It won't matter in the long run.
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@geronl @RAT Patrol
As for me = I feel sorry for myst. She is trying to enjoy her new grandbaby and deal with fractious internal upheavals pertaining to this website.
I agree with many that two separate "official" convention threads are silly. Lets all just obey the rules and act like adults, mm-kay?
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Soooo...Mrs. Trump has always liked Michelle Obama. That should set off even more red flags about this liberal NYC-bred family...
The Tumps and the Clintons have been buddies for along time so this really shouldn't be a surprise.
What bothers me is how much nonsense is in those words she borrowed from Michelle. For starters: 1. Scaricty of resources will stop you far sooner than the size of your dreams. 2. You are not going to be happy trying to to live for yourself and your dreams anyways. It's just stupid advice. It was stupid then and its stupid now. It runs the ragged edge of liberal "I'm entitled to everything" claptrap and its not something you want to teach your kids.
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Here is how I feel, to quote Captain America:
Doesn't matter what the press says, doesn't matter what the politicians or the mobs say. Doesn't matter if the whole country decides that something wrong is something right. This nation was founded on one principle above all else: The requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or the consequences. When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world: NO, you move.
If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
Anatole France As quoted in Listening and Speaking : A Guide to Effective Oral Communication (1954) by Ralph G. Nichols and Thomas R. Lewis, p. 74
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I agree about myst. She should tune us out. It will all be here when she gets back.
I like the 2 threads since the two sides are so far apart. I don't like the deleting of posts, but as long as it is that thread and not this one, I don't care. Two threads was a good idea. I wanted room to laugh since that's all the joy I get out of this year's election.
Totally agree. As long as we aren't censored, they can do what they want....... what they need. They're angry people, and the less I see of them here, the better.
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@geronl @RAT Patrol
As for me = I feel sorry for myst. She is trying to enjoy her new grandbaby and deal with fractious internal upheavals pertaining to this website.
I agree with many that two separate "official" convention threads are silly. Lets all just obey the rules and act like adults, mm-kay?
Well. My read is that @R4 TrumPence wanted a celebration thread. Objections were raised. Compromise was made. It should work well. Everyone has a lane to drive in.
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I agree about myst. She should tune us out. It will all be here when she gets back.
I like the 2 threads since the two sides are so far apart.
Only one side is censoring and enforcing a rigorous jingoistic Trumpianism
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Trump finally found somebody to shoot. This reads as if she wrote it with a gun to her head. And, she implicates Melania in the plagiarism:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn0nELVUEAE0eMb.jpg)
Is there a link missing? I don't see anything after your colon.
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The irony must be lost on many that we ended up with the only Rebuplican candidate on record praising Bill Clinton's presidency and Hillary's work as Sec. of State. The guy who started his campaign becuase of a phone call with the Clintons is the only one that can stop the Clintons.
I remember when McCain all but endorsed Obama a few weeks before the election. The polls were fairly close until he did that.
Trump also praised Obama's bailout and stimulus and said he'd hire the guy.
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Only one side is censoring and enforcing a rigorous jingoistic Trumpianism
None of us are any worse off for it. The adults can handle criticism.
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Nothing like that new thread smell!
Genuine Corinthian leather! Two Corinthians made it!
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Well. My read is that @R4 TrumPence wanted a celebration thread. Objections were raised. Compromise was made. It should work well. Everyone has a lane to drive in.
And still, our free speech here persists...
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Genuine Corinthian leather! Two Corinthians made it!
Donald Dahmer Trump prefers his leather made out of Corinthians
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Trump worth $3 billion
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn0wuLQWgAAAwoW.jpg)
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And still, our free speech here persists...
A "celebration" thread would not be titled as if it were the "official" convention discussion thread.
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Hello, all.
I have been reading with interest for the past several hours the postings that I have missed while I've been on vacation. I am presently in Quebec, Canada and trying valiantly to catch up via the Internet on some of the goings on during the Republican convention.
I must say that reading these threads has been altogether depressing, and at times plainly shocking to witness the level to which our discourse has sunk, especially with regard to the personalization of comments directed toward members of this group by other members.
Clearly, Donald Trump's victory over his electoral rivals for the Republican nomination has created a great deal of acrimony not only among members of TBR but among the Republican electorate in general.
I have made no secret about my disdain for Mr. Trump. I find his boorish behavior, his lack of intellectualism, his poor character and lack of policy knowledge to be substantial reasons not to support him in the upcoming election.
Nonetheless, I find the prospect of a president Hillary Clinton to be positively frightening, to the extent that I might actually consider voting for Mr. Trump in the end. I take no pleasure in this, and neither should any of his supporters that the only reason some of us might in the end pull a lever for him is because the alternative is so horrifying.
I remain unconvinced that a Trump presidency would not be nearly as horrifying. But the one reason, the one thing that might tip the balance for me in the end is the Supreme Court. In truth, I have no idea what Trump would do if provided the opportunity to nominate a justice to the court. Neither does anyone else. That is as frightening as anything else about the man, who remains a cipher in terms of his actual beliefs, assuming he has any.
In any event, I am going to return to enjoying my 25th wedding anniversary vacation with my lovely wife, and enjoy some fine food and beverages here in Quebec and watch the convention tonight - unfortunately on CNN - the only news station we can get here, which is a hoot and a half but that's another story...
I am especially looking forward to watching the speech from the man who should've been the GOP nominee by all rights, Ted Cruz. I expect from him a speech full of substance and not rancor. And no endorsement, either.
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A "celebration" thread would not be titled as if it were the "official" convention discussion thread.
And still no banner link to the OPEN live thread...starting to seem a bit more than a simple oversight.
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And still no banner link to the OPEN live thread...starting to seem a bit more than a simple oversight.
It may be my fault. I asked to have it put up yesterday, so I'll ask to have it put up again.
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Is there a link missing? I don't see anything after your colon.
That's a relief. He's not due for a colonoscopy till next year!
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It may be my fault. I asked to have it put up yesterday, so I'll ask to have it put up again.
sinkspur... I am trying to find the person with the right set of keys. Bear with us.
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I take it @R4 TrumPence is a bit bitter about last night. I've learned through a lot of trial and error to NEVER PISS OFF A WOMAN...lol.
That statement makes me mad.
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Hello, all.
I have been reading with interest for the past several hours the postings that I have missed while I've been on vacation. I am presently in Quebec, Canada and trying valiantly to catch up via the Internet on some of the goings on during the Republican convention.
I must say that reading these threads has been altogether depressing, and at times plainly shocking to witness the level to which our discourse has sunk, especially with regard to the personalization of comments directed toward members of this group by other members.
Clearly, Donald Trump's victory over his electoral rivals for the Republican nomination has created a great deal of acrimony not only among members of TBR but among the Republican electorate in general.
I have made no secret about my disdain for Mr. Trump. I find his boorish behavior, his lack of intellectualism, his poor character and lack of policy knowledge to be substantial reasons not to support him in the upcoming election.
Nonetheless, I find the prospect of a president Hillary Clinton to be positively frightening, to the extent that I might actually consider voting for Mr. Trump in the end. I take no pleasure in this, and neither should any of his supporters that the only reason some of us might in the end pull a lever for him is because the alternative is so horrifying.
I remain unconvinced that a Trump presidency would not be nearly as horrifying. But the one reason, the one thing that might tip the balance for me in the end is the Supreme Court. In truth, I have no idea what Trump would do if provided the opportunity to nominate a justice to the court. Neither does anyone else. That is as frightening as anything else about the man, who remains a cipher in terms of his actual beliefs, assuming he has any.
In any event, I am going to return to enjoying my 25th wedding anniversary vacation with my lovely wife, and enjoy some fine food and beverages here in Quebec and watch the convention tonight - unfortunately on CNN - the only news station we can get here, which is a hoot and a half but that's another story...
I am especially looking forward to watching the speech from the man who should've been the GOP nominee by all rights, Ted Cruz. I expect from him a speech full of substance and not rancor. And no endorsement, either.
You are a good man Andy!
Congratulations to you and your bride!
Go and enjoy your vacation! This place will still be here when you get back!
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Does anyone else have this (somewhat irrational) premonition that DT is going to walk out on stage Thursday, say "You all are a bunch of suckers, thus endeth the GOP, enjoy the Clintons," drop the mic, then walk out?
LOL ~ I've had a similar premonition, yes!
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That's a relief. He's not due for a colonoscopy till next year!
"Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all night. Don't forget to tip your waiter!" :beer:
PS - that's what you should have added to your post. :)
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sinkspur... I am trying to find the person with the right set of keys. Bear with us.
Try the janitor. I think he has a desk in the basement next to the boiler.
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I remain unconvinced that a Trump presidency would not be nearly as horrifying. But the one reason, the one thing that might tip the balance for me in the end is the Supreme Court. In truth, I have no idea what Trump would do if provided the opportunity to nominate a justice to the court.
He's a lefty, a pro-abortion, pro-gay, pro-tranny in the girls bathroom liberal.
What kind of judges do you think he'd appoint?
liberal ones, of course.
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Hello, all.
I have been reading with interest for the past several hours the postings that I have missed while I've been on vacation. I am presently in Quebec, Canada and trying valiantly to catch up via the Internet on some of the goings on during the Republican convention.
I must say that reading these threads has been altogether depressing, and at times plainly shocking to witness the level to which our discourse has sunk, especially with regard to the personalization of comments directed toward members of this group by other members.
Clearly, Donald Trump's victory over his electoral rivals for the Republican nomination has created a great deal of acrimony not only among members of TBR but among the Republican electorate in general.
I have made no secret about my disdain for Mr. Trump. I find his boorish behavior, his lack of intellectualism, his poor character and lack of policy knowledge to be substantial reasons not to support him in the upcoming election.
Nonetheless, I find the prospect of a president Hillary Clinton to be positively frightening, to the extent that I might actually consider voting for Mr. Trump in the end. I take no pleasure in this, and neither should any of his supporters that the only reason some of us might in the end pull a lever for him is because the alternative is so horrifying.
I remain unconvinced that a Trump presidency would not be nearly as horrifying. But the one reason, the one thing that might tip the balance for me in the end is the Supreme Court. In truth, I have no idea what Trump would do if provided the opportunity to nominate a justice to the court. Neither does anyone else. That is as frightening as anything else about the man, who remains a cipher in terms of his actual beliefs, assuming he has any.
In any event, I am going to return to enjoying my 25th wedding anniversary vacation with my lovely wife, and enjoy some fine food and beverages here in Quebec and watch the convention tonight - unfortunately on CNN - the only news station we can get here, which is a hoot and a half but that's another story...
I am especially looking forward to watching the speech from the man who should've been the GOP nominee by all rights, Ted Cruz. I expect from him a speech full of substance and not rancor. And no endorsement, either.
Good to see you andy!
Now go away and do........ stuff............. with your wife. :smokin:
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You are a Trump realist like many of us. We will vote for Trump and hope he can be steered toward the constitution.
SC is key.
Hello, all.
I have been reading with interest for the past several hours the postings that I have missed while I've been on vacation. I am presently in Quebec, Canada and trying valiantly to catch up via the Internet on some of the goings on during the Republican convention.
I must say that reading these threads has been altogether depressing, and at times plainly shocking to witness the level to which our discourse has sunk, especially with regard to the personalization of comments directed toward members of this group by other members.
Clearly, Donald Trump's victory over his electoral rivals for the Republican nomination has created a great deal of acrimony not only among members of TBR but among the Republican electorate in general.
I have made no secret about my disdain for Mr. Trump. I find his boorish behavior, his lack of intellectualism, his poor character and lack of policy knowledge to be substantial reasons not to support him in the upcoming election.
Nonetheless, I find the prospect of a president Hillary Clinton to be positively frightening, to the extent that I might actually consider voting for Mr. Trump in the end. I take no pleasure in this, and neither should any of his supporters that the only reason some of us might in the end pull a lever for him is because the alternative is so horrifying.
I remain unconvinced that a Trump presidency would not be nearly as horrifying. But the one reason, the one thing that might tip the balance for me in the end is the Supreme Court. In truth, I have no idea what Trump would do if provided the opportunity to nominate a justice to the court. Neither does anyone else. That is as frightening as anything else about the man, who remains a cipher in terms of his actual beliefs, assuming he has any.
In any event, I am going to return to enjoying my 25th wedding anniversary vacation with my lovely wife, and enjoy some fine food and beverages here in Quebec and watch the convention tonight - unfortunately on CNN - the only news station we can get here, which is a hoot and a half but that's another story...
I am especially looking forward to watching the speech from the man who should've been the GOP nominee by all rights, Ted Cruz. I expect from him a speech full of substance and not rancor. And no endorsement, either.
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That statement makes me mad.
It doesn't bother me a bit, as a woman. The only one not afraid of a pissed off woman....
is another woman. (meow)
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You are a good man Andy!
Congratulations to you and your bride!
Go and enjoy your vacation! This place will still be here when you get back!
Thanks, Chief! I am going to miss watching SpongeBob SquarePants dubbed In French. And I expect that Donald Trump's acceptance speech will have to be dubbed in English. :silly:
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LOL ~ I've had a similar premonition, yes!
We couldn't get that lucky.
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You are a Trump realist like many of us. We will vote for Trump and hope he can be steered toward the constitution.
SC is key.
You are hoping against all history and reality.
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"Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all night. Don't forget to tip your waiter!" :beer:
PS - that's what you should have added to your post. :)
@Wingnut is one in a million...
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Try the janitor. I think he has a desk in the basement next to the boiler.
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160107121906-pat-harrington-restricted-super-169.jpg)
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Thanks, Chief! I am going to miss watching SpongeBob SquarePants dubbed In French. And I expect that Donald Trump's acceptance speech will have to be dubbed in English. :silly:
:mauslaff: :mauslaff: :mauslaff:
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"Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all night. Don't forget to tip your waiter!" :beer:
PS - that's what you should have added to your post. :)
If the burgers are good. Should I tip the cow?
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It doesn't bother me a bit, as a woman. The only one not afraid of a pissed off woman....
is another woman. (meow)
I was teasing...
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Nonetheless, I find the prospect of a president Hillary Clinton to be positively frightening, to the extent that I might actually consider voting for Mr. Trump in the end. I take no pleasure in this, and neither should any of his supporters that the only reason some of us might in the end pull a lever for him is because the alternative is so horrifying.
And the joy of liberty as practiced among the adults here on this thread, is that you can make such statements without the fear of having your comments deleted, removed or banned.
Unlike those who demand a Trump echo chamber and safe space.
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He's a lefty, a pro-abortion, pro-gay, pro-tranny in the girls bathroom liberal.
What kind of judges do you think he'd appoint?
liberal ones, of course.
Maybe, maybe not. Has he changed? Possibly.
With Hillary Clinton, there'd be no doubt what we'd get. Constitution over.
That's thin gruel, but it's all we've got.
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If the burgers are good. Should I tip the cow?
(http://img.pandawhale.com/98541-monkey-sigh-rimshot-gif-Imgur-7K6T.gif)
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Maybe, maybe not. Has he changed? Possibly.
With Hillary Clinton, there'd be no doubt what we'd get. Constitution over.
That's thin gruel, but it's all we've got.
I was holding out hope for Gary Johnson until he stated that Hillary's actions as SoS weren't criminal.
Yeah, were done here, NEXT!
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I was teasing...
I loled. But I Didn't say anything cuz you rarely crack wise round here!
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And the joy of liberty as practiced among the adults here on this thread, is that you can make such statements without the fear of having your comments deleted, removed or banned.
Unlike those who demand a Trump echo chamber and safe space.
I honestly hope that never happens here. But I'll tell you one thing: voting for Trump would require a bleepload of Bourbon.
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I honestly hope that never happens here. But I'll tell you one thing: voting for Trump would require a bleepload of Bourbon.
I can't drink that much!
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I honestly hope that never happens here. But I'll tell you one thing: voting for Trump would require a bleepload of Bourbon.
"Jack, you better make it three....I wanna get drunk, I'm gonna make it real clear,
I want one bourbon, one scotch and one beer
One bourbon, one scotch, one beer"
-Melania Trump
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And still no banner link to the OPEN live thread...starting to seem a bit more than a simple oversight.
Don't tell anyone about this thread!!!
This club is more exclusive than The Porcellian.
Members only !!!
Shhhhhhhh...
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(http://img.pandawhale.com/98541-monkey-sigh-rimshot-gif-Imgur-7K6T.gif)
Is that @jmyrlefuller? Sorta looks like his avatar.
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I was teasing...
I know. So was I. Just omitted the obligatory 'lol'.
Making the point that we women aren't intimidated by a woman having a hissy fit.
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Maybe, maybe not. Has he changed? Possibly.
With Hillary Clinton, there'd be no doubt what we'd get. Constitution over.
That's thin gruel, but it's all we've got.
Read it and weep in your bourbon perhaps.
Trump's pick for Treasury Secretary is a COLOSSAL Leftist donor (https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/07/trumps-pick-for-treasury-secretary-is-a-colossal-leftist-donor#sthash.cwFoL0RJ.dpuf)
I wouldn't put any faith in any SCOTUS picks Trump would choose.
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Maybe, maybe not. Has he changed? Possibly.
His pick for Treasury is a left-wing donor, banker, globalist
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Read it and weep in your bourbon perhaps.
Trump's pick for Treasury Secretary is a COLOSSAL Leftist donor (https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/07/trumps-pick-for-treasury-secretary-is-a-colossal-leftist-donor#sthash.cwFoL0RJ.dpuf)
I wouldn't put any faith in any SCOTUS picks Trump would choose.
Trump picked Pence, who is not Christie .
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If the burgers are good. Should I tip the cow?
Here's a tip, cow: Get reincarnated in India next time around...
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I know. So was I. Just omitted the obligatory 'lol'.
Making the point that we women aren't intimidated by a woman having a hissy fit.
I'll let you handle them then. Scares the hell outta me, and I'm running for the hills like an incoming meteor.
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@LonestarDream ............. please downsize that photo. It's scaring me! :dx1:
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Forgot how. height ? width?
Either should work.
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"Jack, you better make it three....I wanna get drunk, I'm gonna make it real clear,
I want one bourbon, one scotch and one beer
One bourbon, one scotch, one beer"
-Melania Trump
:silly:
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Hello, all.
I have been reading with interest for the past several hours the postings that I have missed while I've been on vacation. I am presently in Quebec, Canada and trying valiantly to catch up via the Internet on some of the goings on during the Republican convention.
I must say that reading these threads has been altogether depressing, and at times plainly shocking to witness the level to which our discourse has sunk, especially with regard to the personalization of comments directed toward members of this group by other members.
Clearly, Donald Trump's victory over his electoral rivals for the Republican nomination has created a great deal of acrimony not only among members of TBR but among the Republican electorate in general.
I have made no secret about my disdain for Mr. Trump. I find his boorish behavior, his lack of intellectualism, his poor character and lack of policy knowledge to be substantial reasons not to support him in the upcoming election.
Nonetheless, I find the prospect of a president Hillary Clinton to be positively frightening, to the extent that I might actually consider voting for Mr. Trump in the end. I take no pleasure in this, and neither should any of his supporters that the only reason some of us might in the end pull a lever for him is because the alternative is so horrifying.
I remain unconvinced that a Trump presidency would not be nearly as horrifying. But the one reason, the one thing that might tip the balance for me in the end is the Supreme Court. In truth, I have no idea what Trump would do if provided the opportunity to nominate a justice to the court. Neither does anyone else. That is as frightening as anything else about the man, who remains a cipher in terms of his actual beliefs, assuming he has any.
In any event, I am going to return to enjoying my 25th wedding anniversary vacation with my lovely wife, and enjoy some fine food and beverages here in Quebec and watch the convention tonight - unfortunately on CNN - the only news station we can get here, which is a hoot and a half but that's another story...
I am especially looking forward to watching the speech from the man who should've been the GOP nominee by all rights, Ted Cruz. I expect from him a speech full of substance and not rancor. And no endorsement, either.
Good post.
If you can vote for Trump and - in the end - want to vote for Trump because you want to try and salvage the SCOTUS, I understand.
I will never vote for Trump because of the damage he is likely to do to the country beyond the SCOTUS. And, when it comes to the SCOTUS, I firmly believe we'll get more Justice Kennedys out of this fool than we would get Scalias. So, it's a lost cause anyway.
So, in the end, I think there are enough people that simply won't vote for Trump that he will lose anyway. Hillary will win. We'll get a whole bunch of Kagans on the SCOTUS, but at least when the country gets damaged further, people will point at Hillary and the dems and say, "They did it!" rather than at the GOP nominee.
Me, I'll be able to say - in good conscience - "Don't blame me. I didn't vote for either of those gasbags."
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I'll let you handle them then. Scares the hell outta me, and I'm running for the hills like an incoming meteor.
Me too!
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Is the "official" thread locked to everyone or just me? There's a schedule listed there that I had a question on.
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I'll let you handle them then. Scares the hell outta me, and I'm running for the hills like an incoming meteor.
Lmao! It's ok. We'll protect you.
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Is the "official" thread locked to everyone or just me? There's a schedule listed there that I had a question on.
Deposit fifty cents and state your question please.
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Is the "official" thread locked to everyone or just me? There's a schedule listed there that I had a question on.
No, it appears to be locked all.
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Is the "official" thread locked to everyone or just me? There's a schedule listed there that I had a question on.
God only knows. Those folk are bi-polar and even more Batshit crazy than usual.
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Lmao! It's ok. We'll protect you.
8888forgot
My method has served me well. I am still alive after nearly 30 years of marriage.
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Trump picked Pence, who is not Christie .
Trump's advisors pushed him to pick Pence, he didn't want to.
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No, it appears to be locked all.
I think the "Above the Fold" link is wrong. It's taking us to tomorrow's thread.
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Trump's advisors pushed him to pick Pence, he didn't want to.
Peer pressure can be good, sometimes. Read that his kids were pining for Pence.
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Deposit fifty cents and state your question please.
"Somebody's gotta go back and get a shit load of dimes"
-Melania Trump
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His pick for Treasury is a left-wing donor, banker, globalist
Yeah, I saw that. I know exactly who Steve Mnuchin is. Bleccccch.
But then again there is only one main source for that story. There is no saying for sure who he would pick in the end.
We have no good choices left. The only question is: do we take the fast boat or the slow boat to purgatory? The benefit of the slow boat is we have a chance to turn around before we make it all the way to Hell.
I might still vote "none of the above". I don't honestly know what I'm going to do, at least at this point. Lord help me: I'm keeping my mind open to the possibility of voting for a conniving bastard as opposed to The Pantsuit Beast.
And I am certainly not going to fault anybody here for making up their own mind. We all need to do that, and live with it.
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Deposit fifty cents and state your question please.
LOL. I just noticed Cruz wasn't listed on the schedule. Wondered if he got bumped or not on during prime time?
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The local radio guy just suggested that Cruz wouldn't even make it on the stage tonight. Said Trump won't allow it to happen. He (the radio host) seems to lean left so he's probably wrong.
We'll see.
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8888forgot
My method has served me well. I am still alive after nearly 30 years of marriage.
Yep.... tis true
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Try the janitor. I think he has a desk in the basement next to the boiler.
That's funny right there. Damn, yes. That's funny.
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LOL. I just noticed Cruz wasn't listed on the schedule. Wondered if he got bumped or not on during prime time?
Uh, oh. I didn't see your post before I submitted mine. Hmmmm....
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No, it appears to be locked all.
@geronl snarked on it earlier. But those posts have now been deleted.
(Gee I love this place. Reminds me so much of TOS!!)
/sarc
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None of us are any worse off for it. The adults can handle criticism.
Anyone can handle your criticism @Just_Victor. But you and yours have been at it for so long, saying the same thing over and over and over and over again that it's all just annoying...like clutter on the floor.
Pro-Trump posters have offered to engage in a conversation about the importance of voting and how not proactively voting for the Republican ticket can ultimately help elect she who shall not be named. And if you remember, this site almost ran out of fainting couches after that suggestion.
I'll return now to the official convention thread and get out of your way so you can carry on. I'd love for you to join us. But please note: We're going to be dancing the night away---so take care not to drop any clutter on the floor.
(http://www.clipartkid.com/images/94/charlie-snoopy-dancing-cibgfm-clipart.)
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We'll get a whole bunch of Kagans on the SCOTUS, but at least when the country gets damaged further, people will point at Hillary and the dems and say, "They did it!" rather than at the GOP nominee.
You're optimistic, aren't you? I work in academe. Trust me - they will find a way to blame the conservatives/Republicans no matter what.
You have no idea what Trump has done to my work relationships. I had to flat-out tell my employees that there will be no political conversations at work, period. There's no defending Trump to them, even if I were inclined to defend him (which I'm not). And of course they conflate Trump with the Republican Party now, so I can't say I'm a Republican anymore. And they would come in, just laughing uproariously about whatever absurdity had vomited out of Trump's mouth the previous night, despite the fact that their own candidate is equally as despicable. I feel like Charlton Heston in Planet of the Apes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb4eZ7Z5yk8
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@AbaraXas
@redsteeze @tedcruz Delegations are being told by Trump campaign--no Cruz supporters get credentials for floor for Cruz speech tonite
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LOL. I just noticed Cruz wasn't listed on the schedule. Wondered if he got bumped or not on during prime time?
Someone mentioned that the link points to tomorrow's convention.
Time warp.
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@geronl snarked on it earlier. But those posts have now been deleted.
(Gee I love this place. Reminds me so much of TOS!!)
/sarc
I'm gonna call you on that. Besides being fussed at by a fellow poster, what are the consequences/results of your saying that? NONE!
It's not a damn thing like TOS, and I'm getting tired of the whingeing. Say whatever you want to say, and as long as it's not a personal insult or racist, it's fine. I don't know about TOT (that other thread) but there do seem to be some issues there. One thread out of thousands!
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Anyone can handle your criticism @Just_Victor. But you and yours have been at it for so long, saying the same thing over and over and over and over again that it's all just annoying...like clutter on the floor.
Pro-Trump posters have offered to engage in a conversation about the importance of voting and how not proactively voting for the Republican ticket can ultimately help elect she who shall not be named. And if you remember, this site almost ran out of fainting couches after that suggestion.
I'll return now to the official convention thread and get out of your way so you can carry on. I'd love for you to join us. But please note: We're going to be dancing the night away---so take care not to drop any clutter on the floor.
Didn't Myst tell you to stay off this thread with your provocations and gloating? :nono:
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I honestly hope that never happens here. But I'll tell you one thing: voting for Trump would require a bleepload of Bourbon.
Andy in Canada after Voting for Trump and drinking lots of bourbon!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqymcJRSbxI
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Anyone can handle your criticism @Just_Victor. But you and yours have been at it for so long, saying the same thing over and over and over and over again that it's all just annoying...like clutter on the floor.
Pro-Trump posters have offered to engage in a conversation about the importance of voting and how not proactively voting for the Republican ticket can ultimately help elect she who shall not be named. And if you remember, this site almost ran out of fainting couches after that suggestion.
I'll return now to the official convention thread and get out of your way so you can carry on. I'd love for you to join us. But please note: We're going to be dancing the night away---so take care not to drop any clutter on the floor.
Except that you actually don't want us to join you. As you stated above, you're not interested in what we have to say, since it's just clutter on the floor.
Enjoy yourselves.
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@geronl snarked on it earlier. But those posts have now been deleted.
(Gee I love this place. Reminds me so much of TOS!!)
/sarc
@Resp3
Yes, the day four convention thread is locked .... to avoid confusion, I keep only current day unlocked so folks post on the right day. (The same is done on the "open" convention threads).
Oh, and yes, geronl "snarked" all over the place. But after a quick cleanup in aisle one, the thread is fresh and ready to go as we cheer on our nominee for President of the United States.
@flowers
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Like I said earlier, someone messed up that "Day 3" link. It is not day three. It is day four. Thursday. Today is Wednesday.
Oh yes, I see now, and with a date of July 21. I think everyone needs a really long nap today :)
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@Resp3
But after a quick cleanup in aisle one, the thread is fresh and ready to go as we cheer on our nominee for President of the United States.
Kiss off.
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Except that you actually don't want us to join you. As you stated above, you're not interested in what we have to say, since it's just clutter on the floor.
It's all of Trumpistan. There is no desire, no attempt to build bridges, reach out or give us a reason to support Trump. They keep stomping on us and our values, they did it at the convention too. They do not want us or our votes. It's as plain as day.
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Andy in Canada after Voting for Trump and drinking lots of bourbon!
Mamma
I just killed America
Pulled the lever for Don Trump
Voted for his tiny hands now its dead...
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Didn't Myst tell you to stay off this thread with your provocations and gloating? :nono:
It was an invitation, dear .... from the heart. I was simply giving you a suggestion about the wine to bring. :shrug:
But I'll take that as a 'no" and be gone.
Stay just as your are. 88devil
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Mamma
I just killed America
Pulled the lever for Don Trump
Voted for his tiny hands now its dead...
:silly: :silly: :silly:
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Haven't read through all the thread yet, so don't know if this was posted, but...
http://www.c-span.org/video/?412995-1/senator-ted-cruz-declines-endorse-donald-trump-cleveland-rally&vod= (http://www.c-span.org/video/?412995-1/senator-ted-cruz-declines-endorse-donald-trump-cleveland-rally&vod=)
Senator Ted Cruz Remarks to Supporters in Cleveland Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) spoke at an rally in Cleveland, Ohio, ahead of his speech to the Republican National Convention that night. He declined to endorse the party’s presidential nominee Donald Trump, instead calling for unity behind shared principles.
Hosting Organization Cruz Presidential Campaign (http://www.c-span.org/search/?sponsorid[)
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Oh yes, I see now, and with a date of July 21. I think everyone needs a really long nap today :)
Wednesday: Make America First Again
America has always been an exceptional nation. Our Founding Fathers created a system of government that has protected our liberty, allowed American ingenuity to flourish, and lifted people out of poverty by creating the conditions for opportunity and prosperity. Unfortunately, years of bad policies and poor leadership have weakened our position in the world. Under a Trump administration, America will once again be a beacon of progress and opportunity.
Primetime Program, 7 P.M.
Laura Ingraham, Radio Host
A former white-collar defense attorney and Supreme Court law clerk, Laura Ingraham is the most-listened-to woman on political talk radio. The Laura Ingraham Show is ranked in radio’s Top 10, and heard coast-to-coast in 225 markets.
Phil Ruffin, Businessman
Ruffin is an American businessman with diverse interests in real estate, lodging, manufacturing, energy, and retail enterprises. Ruffin started his business in 1959 with a single convenience store and quickly grew to own 65 stores in four states. He currently holds 12 hotels in Kansas, Maryland, California, Oklahoma, Texas, and Alabama.
Pam Bondi, Attorney General of Florida
Pam Bondi is currently serving as Florida’s 37th Attorney General. Since being sworn into office on January 4, 2011, Bondi has worked tirelessly to protect the people of Florida and uphold the state’s laws and the Constitution. During her tenure, she has focused on defending Florida’s constitutional rights against the federal health care law.
Eileen Collins, Astronaut (retired)
Eileen Collins is an astronaut and veteran of four Space Shuttle missions. She was the first woman to command a Space Shuttle mission and logged over 537 hours in space during her tenure at NASA.
Michelle Van Etten, Small Business Owner
Michelle Van Etten is a small business owner who was recently featured in The Greatest Networkers in the World second edition. Michelle employs over 100,000 people and is a strong supporter of Donald Trump, knowing his policies will support businesses all across America.
Kentucky State Senator Ralph Alvarado, Jr.
Ralph Alvarado is currently serving as a Kentucky State Senator. Trained as a physician specializing in internal medicine and pediatrics, Alvarado worked as President of Winchester Medical Associates before joining KentuckyOne Medical Group. Alvarado’s experience as a small business owner gave him firsthand knowledge of how tough business ownership can be.
Darrell Scott, Pastor
Dr. Darrell C. Scott, Senior Pastor and Co-Founder of New Spirit Revival Center Ministries, has given his life to spreading the word of God and helping those in need. Scott started the New Spirit Revival Center in Cleveland Heights, Ohio on February 14, 1994, with just four members in attendance. His ministry has since grown to numbers in the thousands and has focused on reviving its Cleveland Community.
Harold Hamm, Continental Resources
Harold Hamm is an American entrepreneur and played a key role in the development of the technologies behind the United States’ recent renaissance in oil and natural gas production. Born in Lexington, Oklahoma, Hamm was the youngest of 13 children. With just a high-school education, Hamm started his own business at the age of 21. This grassroots startup, Continental Resources, soon became a NYSE-traded, Top 10 oil producer in the United States Lower 48.
Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker
A candidate in the 2016 Republican presidential primary, Scott Walker is the 45th governor of Wisconsin. He was first elected in 2010 and re-elected to a second term in 2014. Upon taking office, Walker proposed bold reforms that eliminated Wisconsin’s $3.6 billion budget deficit without raising taxes. During his tenure in office, Walker has taken on public-sector labor unions, signing a bill to limit public employee collective bargaining and winning a recall election over the issue.
Lynne Patton, The Eric Trump Foundation
Lynne Patton is Vice President of The Eric Trump Foundation and Senior Assistant to Eric Trump, Ivanka Trump, and Donald Trump, Jr. As VP, Lynne works in tandem with the Executive Director/President of the Foundation to oversee all operations, volunteers, events, outreach, social media, vendors, and corporate partnerships. She assists with the planning of all major fundraising events for the Foundation. She also works to identify and develop viable partnerships and research projects for the Foundation in conjunction with St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital.
U.S. Senator Marco Rubio (R-Florida)
U.S. Senator Marco Rubio was a candidate in the 2016 Republican presidential primary. The son of Cuban immigrants who came to America in 1956, Rubio has spent most of his life in West Miami, Florida, leaving only for a six-year period when his parents moved their family to Las Vegas, Nevada. In 2010, Rubio ran for the U.S. Senate. During his term, he has championed efforts to restore the American Dream: Social Security and Medicare reform, greater access to affordable higher education, the revitalization of America’s military, efforts to grow the economy, and the empowerment of states and their citizens in the fight against poverty.
U.S. Senator Ted Cruz (R-Texas)
U.S. Senator Ted Cruz, a candidate in the 2016 Republican presidential primary, won election to the United States Senate in 2012, where he represents the state of Texas. During his tenure in office, Cruz has led the fight to repeal Obamacare, to stop President Obama’s executive amnesty, and to defend life, marriage, and the U.S. Constitution.
Eric Trump, Executive Vice President of The Trump Organization
Eric Trump currently serves as the Executive Vice President of Development and Acquisitions for The Trump Organization. Alongside his father, Donald Trump, Eric works on new project acquisition, development and construction around the world. He has also spearheaded the rapid growth of the Trump Golf Collection. Eric attended Georgetown University where he earned a degree in finance and management. In 2006, he founded the Eric Trump Foundation to help raise money for St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital.
Newt & Callista Gingrich, Former Speaker of the House and his wife
A candidate for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012, Newt Gingrich is best known as the architect of the Contract with America, the document that led the Republican Party to victory in 1994 by capturing the majority in the U.S. House of Representatives for the first time in 40 years. Callista Gingrich is the president of Gingrich Productions, a multimedia production company based in Washington, D.C. She and her husband host and produce historical and public policy documentaries.
Indiana Governor Mike Pence, Presumptive candidate for Vice President
Mike Pence was elected the 50th Governor of the State of Indiana in 2012. Since taking office, Pence has achieved the largest state tax cut in Indiana history while also lowering the business personal property tax and corporate income tax to attract new investment and bring more jobs to Indiana. He is the presumptive candidate for Vice President for Donald Trump.
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It's all of Trumpistan. There is no desire, no attempt to build bridges, reach out or give us a reason to support Trump. They keep stomping on us and our values, they did it at the convention too. They do not want us or our votes. It's as plain as day.
Was it all of them or just a certain few who said they were tired of the Bible thumping? I can't remember anymore.
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I'll return now to the official convention thread and get out of your way so you can carry on. I'd love for you to join us. But please note: We're going to be dancing the night away---so take care not to drop any clutter on the floor.
Stay out of her way folks. She got out of bed this morning and hopped on her menstrual cycle just looking for someone to run over! You can hear her talking all the way over in the Thrump hole thread.... nag nag nag nag nag nag nag biiiiiitch biiiiiitch.
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Looks like Ted will be speaking at midnight after the arena turns off the lights
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It was an invitation, dear .... from the heart.
Why continue the nonsense? Enough already. We've all had enough. Stop poking the bear. Don't feed the alligators.
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Wednesday: Make America First Again
Thank you, sir!
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Interpretation: They are tired of the Bible so they blame the messenger.
Just got another email from Eric the Punk begging for money for his self funding old man.
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Stay out of her way folks. She got out of bed this morning and hopped on her menstrual cycle just looking for someone to run over!
ROFL
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She must be bleeding from....somewhere. - Donald Trump
Oh that was good.... Damn! :beer:
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Kiss off.
You really need to put her on IGNORE. It's not worth anyone's time to see you respond with snark to snark.
Let it go.
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Thanks, Chief! I am going to miss watching SpongeBob SquarePants dubbed In French. And I expect that Donald Trump's acceptance speech will have to be dubbed in English. :silly:
Mal!
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Wednesday: Make America First Again
Laura Ingraham, Radio Host (harpie)
Phil Ruffin, Businessman
Pam Bondi, Attorney General of Florida (accepts bribes)
Eileen Collins, Astronaut (retired)
Michelle Van Etten, Small Business Owner (MLM huckster)
Kentucky State Senator Ralph Alvarado, Jr.
Darrell Scott, Pastor
Harold Hamm, Continental Resources
Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker
Lynne Patton, The Eric Trump Foundation (slush fund manager)
U.S. Senator Marco Rubio (R-Florida)
U.S. Senator Ted Cruz (R-Texas) Da-Man!!
Eric Trump, Executive Vice President of The Trump Organization
Newt & Callista Gingrich, Former Speaker of the House and his wife (Has-been old fossil)
Indiana Governor Mike Pence, Presumptive candidate for Vice President
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Here is how I feel, to quote Captain America:
Doesn't matter what the press says, doesn't matter what the politicians or the mobs say. Doesn't matter if the whole country decides that something wrong is something right. This nation was founded on one principle above all else: The requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or the consequences. When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world: NO, you move.
:amen:
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I'm gonna call you on that. Besides being fussed at by a fellow poster, what are the consequences/results of your saying that? NONE!
It's not a damn thing like TOS, and I'm getting tired of the whingeing. Say whatever you want to say, and as long as it's not a personal insult or racist, it's fine. I don't know about TOT (that other thread) but there do seem to be some issues there. One thread out of thousands!
Touchy, aren't you? Well I'll forgive your ignorance about that TOT. But I was there. I saw it. And JimRob himself would have been proud of that obscene rant.
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Maybe, maybe not. Has he changed? Possibly.
With Hillary Clinton, there'd be no doubt what we'd get. Constitution over.
That's thin gruel, but it's all we've got.
July 5 was my tipping point..... who shall be my Marine son's CINC?
HRC - known known
DT - known unknown.
Thinnest of gruel. But, it's gotta be Trump.
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Do you not yet understand that people are different from each other? If you are that bothered by personal differences, just put me on IGNORE. I'm speaking my mind. I'm serious. And I'm completely 'together.'
It's not "melodrama" (though the word does come from "melody," which I like), when it's a real expression of a real situation.
And @musiclady , you are NOT alone. 034
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Thank you, sir!
Ted's basic message is to unite the party behind liberty and hard working Americans.
And he does not know what the future will hold...
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July 5 was my tipping point..... who shall be my Marine son's CINC?
HRC - known known
DT - known unknown.
Thinnest of gruel. But, it's gotta be Trump.
You apparently watched the same television coverage that I did.
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LOL. I just noticed Cruz wasn't listed on the schedule. Wondered if he got bumped or not on during prime time?
@RoosGirl, Cruz speaks at 8:45 tonight, according to Steve Deace's twitter.
@Sanguine
@Victoria33
@Cripplecreek
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Looks like the Mods finally found the janitor with the keys.
We're, "Above the Fold," again! :beer:
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July 5 was my tipping point..... who shall be my Marine son's CINC?
HRC - known known
DT - known unknown.
Thinnest of gruel. But, it's gotta be Trump.
That's the bottom line for me, too. But I answered it the other way. Trump is erratic, mercurial, vindictive, narcissistic, megalomaniacal and unwilling to take counsel other his own. IMO, that's a recipe for disaster for a CIC empowered to put our soldiers in harm's way.
I'd prefer the devil I know to the devil I don't, especially when the devil I don't know is as erratic as Trump.
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Touchy, aren't you? Well I'll forgive your ignorance about that TOT. But I was there. I saw it. And JimRob himself would have been proud of that obscene rant.
Oh, I saw it. And agree that it was way out of line. But, that was one person on one thread and an aberration.
Sorry, I shouldn't have picked on you - you were just expressing what others had already expressed.
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It's all of Trumpistan. There is no desire, no attempt to build bridges, reach out or give us a reason to support Trump. They keep stomping on us and our values, they did it at the convention too. They do not want us or our votes. It's as plain as day.
And interesting the number of people on this thread as compared to the official thread. Sure there are a number of us here who came from TOS where we weren't allowed any dissent. Why should we participate in a thread here that has the same rules?
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I would like to propose a metaphor to describe the current state of the GOP:
Ten friends decide they want to go out for dinner. Four of the friends say, "Let's get seafood!" Some of the other friends object and the friends admit, "Well, I'd be satisfied with Mexican food, but I really want seafood!"
Three of the friends say, "I can't eat seafood. It makes me physically ill. I'm 'never seafood.' How about Italian? They might have some seafood type dishes there..."
"Wait," says a few friends, "If those four are OK with Mexican, maybe we should just do that?"
Finally the friends say, "Let's put it to a vote. We'll go to whatever restaurant gets the most votes."
"Well, OK guys, but let me remind you: we three won't eat seafood, it makes us physically ill."
The vote is cast.
4 for seafood
3 for Italian
3 for Mexican
"Great!" exclaim the seafood proponents. "Seafood it is!" They and three others agree that the rules were set, and they are going to the seafood restaurant.
"Well," say the three who hate seafood, "we're hungry too, so we are going to the Italian restaurant. See you later."
The seafood crowd goes apoplectic. "You're anti-democracy! We agreed to take a vote! You have to eat seafood! *You* are breaking up our outing! We hate you! Go to hell!"
:thumbsup: EXACTLY!!
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Pro-Trump posters have offered to engage in a conversation about the importance of voting and how not proactively voting for the Republican ticket can ultimately help elect she who shall not be named.
@Right_in_Virginia
I love it that you're finally admitting you really do need our votes, after all. Back when you and your candidate dismissed the concept, some of us always knew you'd change your tune.
But you're out of luck, because you'll never get mine. And don't presume to lecture me on the "importance of voting" for a progressive Hillary donor, because it's ridiculous on its face.
Have fun!
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You apparently watched the same television coverage that I did.
James Comey's "However" about took my breath away.
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:silly: :silly: :silly:
https://www.facebook.com/cnn/videos/10155058467416509/ (https://www.facebook.com/cnn/videos/10155058467416509/)
South Dakota delegate facepalms as his state announces its votes for Trump.
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Nevermind
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Both hideous and unfit.
Democrats have already won with a "heads I win, tails you lose" election cycle. So far all the Orange Slanderer has done is give even more power to the corrupt RNC.
Hello Ghost, I am glad to see that you are faring well!
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July 5 was my tipping point..... who shall be my Marine son's CINC?
HRC - known known
DT - known unknown.
Thinnest of gruel. But, it's gotta be Trump.
Maybe I can just vote for Pence. He's a decent enough man.
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James Comey's "However" about took my breath away.
Practical and pragmatic men and women saw the stakes laid out starkly. None of us are guaranteed a "best" choice in any aspect of life, sometimes we have to play the hand that is dealt. (Prayers for your valiant son, always.)
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That's the bottom line for me, too. But I answered it the other way. Trump is erratic, mercurial, vindictive, narcissistic, megalomaniacal and unwilling to take counsel other his own. IMO, that's a recipe for disaster for a CIC empowered to put our soldiers in harm's way.
I'd prefer the devil I know to the devil I don't, especially when the devil I don't know is as erratic as Trump.
Trump is a dangerous, erratic and immature man who doesn't take responsibility for anything. That makes him at least as much of a threat as anything Obama/Clinton can throw at us. Even worse is the fact tat he doesn't seem capable of learning from his mistakes.
Clinton as a criminal who belongs in prison for Benghazi but she does learn from her mistakes and won't let that one happen again.
As far as Clinton going to prison, chances of that evaporated when Trump snuggled up to the GOP establishment. There is some guilt one the GOPe for being involved in that mess and Clinton going down would take some big name republicans with her. Ted Cruz was the only one I heard pointing to responsibility for Libya on both sides of the aisle and he said his AG pic would be directed to pursue the truth and prosecution on both sides of the aisle if that's where it belonged.
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Practical and pragmatic men and women saw the stakes laid out starkly. None of us are guaranteed a "best" choice in any aspect of life, sometimes we have to play the hand that is dealt. (Prayers for your valiant son, always.)
katz! Greetings!
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Practical and pragmatic men and women saw the stakes laid out starkly. None of us are guaranteed a "best" choice in any aspect of life, sometimes we have to play the hand that is dealt. (Prayers for your valiant son, always.)
I could get with that reasoning if someone were holding a gun to my head in the voting booth. But as it is, I don't "have" to do anything and no hand was dealt to me.I have free will, and no one owns my vote. It must be earned.
If I were to vote for Clinton or Trump, it would be hard to live with myself. Rejecting both of those disasters is the only acceptable option for me.
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katz! Greetings!
Tip of my cap to you, hoping that all is well in your little patch of America! :patriot:
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If I were to vote for Clinton or Trump, it would be hard to live with myself. Rejecting both of those disasters is the only acceptable option for me.
:amen:
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I could get with that reasoning if someone were holding a gun to my head in the voting booth. But as it is, I don't "have" to do anything and no hand was dealt to me.I have free will, and no one owns my vote. It must be earned.
If I were to vote for Clinton or Trump, it would be hard to live with myself. Rejecting both of those disasters is the only acceptable option for me.
There are many days between now and November 8th.... God only knows what we will all observe and learn... voting YOUR conscience is the only acceptable action, from how I see it.
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I could get with that reasoning if someone were holding a gun to my head in the voting booth. But as it is, I don't "have" to do anything and no hand was dealt to me.I have free will, and no one owns my vote. It must be earned.
If I were to vote for Clinton or Trump, it would be hard to live with myself. Rejecting both of those disasters is the only acceptable option for me.
Well said. People forget that we live in what is supposed to be a representative republic, and as such we are supposed to vote for the candidate that we think best represents us and our views.
Neither Trump nor Clinton do that in my case, and so I won't be voting for either one. It's just that simple.
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Well said. People forget that we live in what is supposed to be a representative republic, and as such we are supposed to vote for the candidate that we think best represents us and our views.
Neither Trump nor Clinton do that in my case, and so I won't be voting for either one. It's just that simple.
:amen:
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There are many days between now and November 8th.... God only knows what we will all observe and learn... voting YOUR conscience is the only acceptable action, from how I see it.
Yes, I agree with that.
However, for me, I've learned everything I need to know about Trump this past year.
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Well said. People forget that we live in what is supposed to be a representative republic, and as such we are supposed to vote for the candidate that we think best represents us and our views.
Neither Trump nor Clinton do that in my case, and so I won't be voting for either one. It's just that simple.
Both of them think we're a pure mob rule democracy.
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Here's a tip, cow: Get reincarnated in India next time around...
Good one.
Here's a picture of a real cow tip.
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Yes, I agree with that.
However, for me, I've learned everything I need to know about Trump this past year.
I'm old enough to have had more than 30 years to observe Donald Trump and have been #NeverTrump for most of them.
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Technical issue that may have resolved itself - but I was fearing the worst.
Thankfully not the case.
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Well said. People forget that we live in what is supposed to be a representative republic, and as such we are supposed to vote for the candidate that we think best represents us and our views.
Neither Trump nor Clinton do that in my case, and so I won't be voting for either one. It's just that simple.
What kills me is knowing we could have had a good candidate to go up against Clinton after eight years of Obama. Cruz is my first choice, far and away, but I would have been fine supporting Walker, Paul, or Rubio. But Donald Trump? Really?
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Mods, I made a double post, and when I tried to remove it I got a message "Deleting posts on this board is not allowed.'
Could you remove the extra post? Thanks.
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Yes, I agree with that.
However, for me, I've learned everything I need to know about Trump this past year.
Just my humble point of view: none of is should pretend to presage what our Lord may choose to reveal.
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I'm old enough to have had more than 30 years to observe Donald Trump and have been #NeverTrump for most of them.
Yep, I couldn't stand him before he ran for president, either. He was always just a gasbag braggart. Now I know he's worse than that.
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Yep, I couldn't stand him before he ran for president, either. He was always just a gasbag braggart. Now I know he's worse than that.
Yep. I have detested him for many years.
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Just my humble point of view: none of is should pretend to presage what our Lord may choose to reveal.
With all respect, I think the Lord has already revealed the truth about Trump. And I rest assured that He doesn't expect me to throw support to a man who openly mocks Him.
From his book, "Think Like A Billionaire":
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Yep. I have detested him for many years.
Remember the days when that kind of personality turned people off? Now they look up to it.
Bizarre.
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Nevermind
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http://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2016/07/20/gq-writer-says-wants-mother-fallen-benghanzi-victim-beaten-death/
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Both parties and both nominees have the same owners and principles.
The long march through the institutions has been completed.
Bye bye America.
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Try the janitor. I think he has a desk in the basement next to the boiler.
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What kills me is knowing we could have had a good candidate to go up against Clinton after eight years of Obama. Cruz is my first choice, far and away, but I would have been fine supporting Walker, Paul, or Rubio. But Donald Trump? Really?
Yeah, of all our choices we end up with the guy who praised Billzebubba as a good president, praised Hillary's as Sec. of State, was a registered Democrat for the first 4 years of Obummer, and has a wife that admires Michelle Obama. This is the chosen one that can beat Hillary?!
:thud: :facepalm2:
There were plenty of other choices that we could have lived with. But no, the country just had to have the democrat from NY. Because Wall- Oh wait, it's just a virtual wall with a big beautiful door. Because Refugees- Oh wait, he doesn't want to get rid of them anymore and closed the convention the other day with a muslim prayer. I don't know what Donny has left. Because abortion - Oh wait, he back peddled on that too. Because taxes- Oh, wait he wants to raise taxes. I guess destroying the world economy with tariffs. Yee Haw!
That's my two cents.
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You are a Trump realist like many of us. We will vote for Trump and hope he can be steered toward the constitution.
SC is key.
There's nothing "real" about thinking Trump can be steered toward anything constitutional, ever. Being "real" would be knowing that Trump can't be steered in any direction, unless he, himself, will benefit and gain from it. And I don't believe for one minute, shrinking government, getting rid of corruption and cronyism and upholding the laws and constitutional boundaries will benefit Trump, one iota.
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Yep. I have detested him for many years.
So did most of his most ardent supporters. :silly:
I know a guy named Jim Robinson who was calling Trump a lying liberal scumbag just a couple years ago. Today he wants Trump blashemers burned at the stake.
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Just my humble point of view: none of is should pretend to presage what our Lord may choose to reveal.
I have not sen you posting here before; but I am looking forward to seeing more. I am here as a FR Refugee. Got a PM over there from @mystery-ak which I took as more or less an order:
"Get over here" with a link. Well, I did and I am glad I did.
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I talked to her once (by accident) in a theater restroom after watching a sneak preview of "The Woman In Red." My friend was in the stall next to me and I said, "That's the worst movie I've seen in a long time." She agreed. An unknown voice from another stall said, "What movie." We answered. Then we heard scurrying....some people at the sink fawning over someone.....then when we left the restroom there was a guy at the concession who said, "Hey, did you know you were just in there with Gilda Radner."
Oops!
Brushes with fame in the bathroom. One thing about women....If you are a star you don't have to worry about getting your leg peed on.
Oh...did she ask you for a square!
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With all respect, I think the Lord has already revealed the truth about Trump. And I rest assured that He doesn't expect me to throw support to a man who openly mocks Him.
From his book, "Think Like A Billionaire":
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn055pGXYAAIFf9.jpg)
Only time will tell.
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That does not really apply here. If a tornado hits your house, you know the house is toast. You don't need to wait and hope for a better revelation from God.
My calendar today reads July 20, 2016. Many days before it reads November 8, 2106.
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I have not sen you posting here before; but I am looking forward to seeing more. I am here as a FR Refugee. Got a PM over there from @mystery-ak which I took as more or less an order:
"Get over here" with a link. Well, I did and I am glad I did.
Good to see you here, don-o. Let's do what we can to make lemonade out of the lemons. :patriot:
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With all respect, I think the Lord has already revealed the truth about Trump. And I rest assured that He doesn't expect me to throw support to a man who openly mocks Him.
From his book, "Think Like A Billionaire":
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn055pGXYAAIFf9.jpg)
And yet Jesus chose a manger...
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Trump is a dangerous, erratic and immature man who doesn't take responsibility for anything. That makes him at least as much of a threat as anything Obama/Clinton can throw at us. Even worse is the fact tat he doesn't seem capable of learning from his mistakes.
Clinton as a criminal who belongs in prison for Benghazi but she does learn from her mistakes and won't let that one happen again.
As far as Clinton going to prison, chances of that evaporated when Trump snuggled up to the GOP establishment. There is some guilt one the GOPe for being involved in that mess and Clinton going down would take some big name republicans with her. Ted Cruz was the only one I heard pointing to responsibility for Libya on both sides of the aisle and he said his AG pic would be directed to pursue the truth and prosecution on both sides of the aisle if that's where it belonged.
That is a MAJOR problem with supporting TRump over Hillary. If Hillary wins she will have opposition to her agenda from the right. If Trump wins he won't.
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Yeah, of all our choices we end up with the guy who praised Billzebubba as a good president, praised Hillary's as Sec. of State, was a registered Democrat for the first 4 years of Obummer, and has a wife that admires Michelle Obama. This is the chosen one that can beat Hillary?!
:thud: :facepalm2:
There were plenty of other choices that we could have lived with. But no, the country just had to have the democrat from NY. Because Wall- Oh wait, it's just a virtual wall with a big beautiful door. Because Refugees- Oh wait, he doesn't want to get rid of them anymore and closed the convention the other day with a muslim prayer. I don't know what Donny has left. Because abortion - Oh wait, he back peddled on that too. Because taxes- Oh, wait he wants to raise taxes. I guess destroying the world economy with tariffs. Yee Haw!
That's my two cents.
When you lay it all out like that it sounds even more ridiculous.
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I could get with that reasoning if someone were holding a gun to my head in the voting booth. But as it is, I don't "have" to do anything and no hand was dealt to me.I have free will, and no one owns my vote. It must be earned.
If I were to vote for Clinton or Trump, it would be hard to live with myself. Rejecting both of those disasters is the only acceptable option for me.
Right there with you! No more will I play prisoner's dilemma with the two (really one) party candidates!
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@Right_in_Virginia
I love it that you're finally admitting you really do need our votes, after all. Back when you and your candidate dismissed the concept, some of us always knew you'd change your tune.
But you're out of luck, because you'll never get mine. And don't presume to lecture me on the "importance of voting" for a progressive Hillary donor, because it's ridiculous on its face.
Have fun!
The next time someone uses that "you have to vote for Trump, because Hillary" crap....tell them this:
"I would rather let Joe babysit my kids instead of Mike because Joe has raped fewer kids than Mike."
Let that sink in for a second.
Now, understand that this is exactly what you sound like when you're attempting to justify your decision to vote for the lesser of two evils.
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Only time will tell.
Tell me that He expects me to support someone amoral? No. If I believed that, I would be deluding myself.
There's no way I will vote for either of the progressives in this race.
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Right there with you! No more will I play prisoner's dilemma with the two (really one) party candidates!
The Republican party has us well-trained. Time to break those shackles.
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That is a MAJOR problem with supporting TRump over Hillary. If Hillary wins she will have opposition to her agenda from the right. If Trump wins he won't.
I think it was either John or Sam Adams who made the same point about having a clear enemy at the head of government that can be fought.
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When you lay it all out like that it sounds even more ridiculous.
If it were just one or two things it might be easy to dismiss as a 'nothing burger', but Trump has so many of these, you could feed five thousands besides women and children with his nothing burgers and still have twelve basketfulls of nothing burgers left.
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Quote from: Bigun on Today at 04:20:19 PM (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,216662.msg976682.html#msg976682)
That is a MAJOR problem with supporting TRump over Hillary. If Hillary wins she will have opposition to her agenda from the right. If Trump wins he won't.
BINGO! Thank you for reminding us of that.
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Say What Now? When you consider how much "opposition" Obama has had from the right - then how will Hillary be any different?
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Yep, I couldn't stand him before he ran for president, either. He was always just a gasbag braggart. Now I know he's worse than that.
Funny thing is, I remember him being put on some kind of allowance back in the 80's by a bankruptcy court, may have heard about some of his martial problems via threads etc. and knew he had some sort of TV show. I really never paid any attention to him until last year and never in my wildest dreams thought he would effect my world in any way.
I still think his running was a publicity stunt at best and a way to get a Hispanic judge to recuse himself at worst.
I think my wife is eventually going to vote for him which will give him a vote. I will probably not vote for Hillary which will be a vote for Trump. That makes it unanimous in my household.
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There were plenty of other choices that we could have lived with. But no, the country just had to have the democrat from NY. Because Wall- Oh wait, it's just a virtual wall with a big beautiful door. Because Refugees- Oh wait, he doesn't want to get rid of them anymore and closed the convention the other day with a muslim prayer. I don't know what Donny has left. Because abortion - Oh wait, he back peddled on that too. Because taxes- Oh, wait he wants to raise taxes. I guess destroying the world economy with tariffs. Yee Haw!
That's my two cents.
OK I think I'm starting to understand why Trumpers are so angry. I'd be angry too if I supported a candidate who threatened to give me ideological whiplash.
They need to stop venting their anger on us and focus it on the cause.
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OK I think I'm starting to understand why Trumpers are so angry. I'd be angry too if I supported a candidate who threatened to give me ideological whiplash.
They need to stop venting their anger on us and focus it on the cause.
:amen:
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The next time someone uses that "you have to vote for Trump, because Hillary" crap....tell them this:
"I would rather let Joe babysit my kids instead of Mike because Joe has raped fewer kids than Mike."
Let that sink in for a second.
Now, understand that this is exactly what you sound like when you're attempting to justify your decision to vote for the lesser of two evils.
Nailed it!
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As per my previous example, the house is gone.
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Through the grace of God, my house is still standing. YMMV.
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Quote from: Bigun on Today at 04:20:19 PM (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,216662.msg976682.html#msg976682)
That is a MAJOR problem with supporting TRump over Hillary. If Hillary wins she will have opposition to her agenda from the right. If Trump wins he won't.
BINGO! Thank you for reminding us of that.
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Say What Now? When you consider how much "opposition" Obama has had from the right - then how will Hillary be any different?
If we lie to ourselves about who and what Trump is, then you're right. If we're honest with ourselves about our own conservative principals and how little of that Trump shares, even if he wins we will continue to criticize his liberalism when it shows up. #eyeswideopen
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That does not really apply here. If a tornado hits your house, you know the house is toast. You don't need to wait and hope for a better revelation from God.
Reminds me of this:
God Will Save Me
A terrible storm came into a town and local officials sent out an emergency warning that the riverbanks would soon overflow and flood the nearby homes. They ordered everyone in the town to evacuate immediately.
A faithful Christian man heard the warning and decided to stay, saying to himself, “I will trust God and if I am in danger, then God will send a divine miracle to save me.”
The neighbors came by his house and said to him, “We’re leaving and there is room for you in our car, please come with us!” But the man declined. “I have faith that God will save me.”
As the man stood on his porch watching the water rise up the steps, a man in a canoe paddled by and called to him, “Hurry and come into my canoe, the waters are rising quickly!” But the man again said, “No thanks, God will save me.”
The floodwaters rose higher pouring water into his living room and the man had to retreat to the second floor. A police motorboat came by and saw him at the window. “We will come up and rescue you!” they shouted. But the man refused, waving them off saying, “Use your time to save someone else! I have faith that God will save me!”
The flood waters rose higher and higher and the man had to climb up to his rooftop.
A helicopter spotted him and dropped a rope ladder. A rescue officer came down the ladder and pleaded with the man, "Grab my hand and I will pull you up!" But the man STILL refused, folding his arms tightly to his body. “No thank you! God will save me!”
Shortly after, the house broke up and the floodwaters swept the man away and he drowned.
When in Heaven, the man stood before God and asked, “I put all of my faith in You. Why didn’t You come and save me?”
And God said, “Son, I sent you a warning. I sent you a car. I sent you a canoe. I sent you a motorboat. I sent you a helicopter. What more were you looking for?”
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“If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures.”
Alexander Hamilton
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Andy in Canada after Voting for Trump and drinking lots of bourbon!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqymcJRSbxI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqymcJRSbxI)
Okay, dude that was funny as hell. But I am a much better singer than that guy, even stone drunk. And for me to vote for Herr Donald, I am going to have to outdo what I did in '08, when Obama beat McPain, for whom my affection was limited, to say the least. One full bottle of Famous Grouse later...
This would be worse.
Mama, just chose a man
Put my pen next to his name
Checked it off
I feel ashamed
Melanian Rhapsody
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Tell me that He expects me to support someone amoral? No. If I believed that, I would be deluding myself.
There's no way I will vote for either of the progressives in this race.
You may be far more confident in how you see your tomorrows unfold. I am a simple man that knows not each day if I will be blessed to awaken once again as I lay down to rest. As simple as I am, I can recall that when I laid my head to rest on September 10, 2001, I had no foresight as to what I would awaken to. That recollection serves to remind me of my place in the grand scheme. YMMV.
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Mamma
I just killed America
Pulled the lever for Don Trump
Voted for his tiny hands now its dead...
You don't even need to change the words from "Death on Two Legs":
Misguided old mule
With your pigheaded rules
With your narrow-minded cronies who are fools of the first division-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqVpk0qxmfA
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I think it was either John or Sam Adams who made the same point about having a clear enemy at the head of government that can be fought.
It was Alexander Hamilton.
(https://ricochet.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/hamiltonrule2.jpg)
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For anyone who still thinks it's all just peachy, this one's for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cQgQIMlwWw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cQgQIMlwWw)
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It was Alexander Hamilton.
Thankee Sai :beer:
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Ted Cruz is still optimistic that conservatism can have a positive impact on the GOP.
I'm not very optimistic. If Trump wins there will be no chance that conservatism can become a real partner of the party again.
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My calendar today reads July 20, 2016. Many days before it reads November 8, 2106.
Yes... 90 years, 3 months, 19 days.
Or 32,982 days.
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(https://scontent.fphx1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13781832_1770925746485753_298895911990612794_n.jpg?oh=0daa73f0cf726e4cb0327c9c395d1cfb&oe=581964F9)
What Ted Cruz should do, is take the mic, shout out "The GOP has left us. They've denied the Constitution and ignored the voice of the people. I can no longer support it. Therefore, I'm leaving and joining the Constitution Party. I'm out" And then drop the mic.
But in reality, I believe he'll be like Reagan in 76...he'll speak to conservatism and constitutional values, and what makes America, America and how we truly get back to that. If there's something we should ALL know about Ted Cruz, it's that he is a man of conviction and principles and I do not believe he'll endorse, as I don't believe he can, in good conscience. He'll skirt the line, speaking of uniting for other reasons and other areas, but he'll do it all without even mentioning the nominee.
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OK I think I'm starting to understand why Trumpers are so angry. I'd be angry too if I supported a candidate who threatened to give me ideological whiplash.
They need to stop venting their anger on us and focus it on the cause.
They are angry because someone told them to be angry, that's all.
It's very easy to lead the public to panic or anger. Just look at the War of the Worlds radio broadcast.
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Touche, looks like the anti-Democracy bots have to likewise, keep up the personal attacks.
A dedicated thread really shouldn't be a problem for a website that has GOP in its name.
But the anti-Unity, anti-Democracy bots now talk of freedom? Their freedom at personal attacks is more like it.
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on the dinner menu.
It is never unified, anyway.
America is not a Democracy, but a Republic, to protect the rights of those who might not be in the majority at any given moment from the depredations which could be visited upon them by the popular vote. Such was the intent of the Founders.
It isn't unified, either, with different groups always pressing for their particular interests.
One of those interests is that we do things according to our own Constitution, although there are differences on the interpretation and application of that as well.
Anything done to subvert that Republic is, by definition, unAmerican.
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Okay, dude that was funny as hell. But I am a much better singer than that guy, even stone drunk. And for me to vote for Herr Donald, I am going to have to outdo what I did in '08, when Obama beat McPain, for whom my affection was limited, to say the least. One full bottle of Famous Grouse later...
This would be worse.
Mama, just chose a man
Put my pen next to his name
Checked it off
I feel ashamed
Melanian Rhapsody
Mister pitch perfect LOL. :dx1: He didn't slur when he was singing! I hope you will do the same Talented...very talented! :beer:
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They are angry because someone told them to be angry, that's all.
It's very easy to lead the public to panic or anger. Just look at the War of the Worlds radio broadcast.
That was actually a myth according to the Telegraph. The History Channel still reports it on this day in history as being true, however.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/radio/what-to-listen-to/the-war-of-the-worlds-panic-was-a-myth/
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Ted Cruz is still optimistic that conservatism can have a positive impact on the GOP.
I disagree...
If you listened to Cruz's speech today at the rally in Cleveland, and I was transcribing it for my husband, here is the gist of what he said:
Cruz says "Our party now has a nominee" and the whole crowd BOOS
Then a Trump plane flies by over head...and Cruz says "That was pretty well orchestrated"
Then he asked someone on his staff if he had emailed the plane to do that, right when he said that...everyone laughed
Cruz goes on: What remains unshakeable is his faith in the men and women at the rally....the obligation to follow our conscience, to speak the truth and truth is unchanging. To defend liberty....a lot of talk about unity, and he wants to see unity and the way to see do that is to unite behind shared principles and to unite in defense of liberty. For us to empower the grass roots.
The answer isn't going to come from Wash DC and it won't come from both parties, it'll only come from the grassroots and we the people.
He then reads something Heidi found on internet about camels and asses (I'm sure you've heard the joke)
He's still convinced God is not done with this country yet and if we are faithful, speak the truth, defend liberty and the constitution and empower the people, he promises there are better days ahead
People start chanting/shouting "2020"
He then talks about Indiana, and confesses one of the things he's sorriest about that he most regrets is after suspending his campaign....the group of volunteers...and he's upset that he could not stay and hug each and every one of them, but he didn't have the strength not to break down. He said they had tv cameras everywhere and he wasn't going to let them turn "Lyin Ted" into "Cryin Ted". He said he lasted til about 2 people and he had to go back stage, but
Heidi stayed and hugged every person there.
He explained this afternoon rally was an opportunity for them to hug the people and thank them and say they are humbled and privileged to do it side by side fighting for this country they love with all their hearts.
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Well this is disgusting.
Christie to Cruz: Endorse Trump or be 'less of a person'
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/christie-cruz-trump-endorsement-225903
Shut up and do the Truffle Shuffle for the master, Chunk.
Get the one the master called a child molester over here to do it too.
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My comment here has nothing to do with the actual convention, but I want to tell you about this happening:
A member of this family is a pilot for a major airline (which I won't say the name). Pilots have to go through the TSA "inspection" line just as everyone else. Pilots are moved to the head of the line so they can get to the flight line (airplane) as quickly as possible.
In this USA major airport, he was not moved forward, was at the back of the line. The inspector person was a black woman. When he was his turn, he told the person that pilots are moved to the front to get to their plane. This person said they treat everyone the same. He asked to speak to her manager.
The woman MANAGER came and she was dressed in a FULL BURKA, only her eyes could be seen. This Burka wearing woman is in charge of airport inspections.
This pilot is a conservative Christian person, knows a plane inside and out, could fix, and has, anything wrong with a plane. He wanted to be a pilot when he was six years old and stayed with that until he is now almost in his 50s. You would want him flying your plane. He had a real problem with a Burka wearing woman in charge of inspections.
DO YOU SEE A PROBLEM WITH THIS? I was astounded the TSA is hiring Muslims for work in our airports. I think this employment of Muslims in airports leads directly back to Obama. The TSA rules are written by Obama's chosen people under his guidelines.
I will add to this, several weeks ago, we went through a Walgreens drive through to pick up medicine for me. The person in the window handling my medicine was a woman in a Hijab, her head completely covered. I have a problem with Muslims working in a pharmacy, determining which medicine they put in your prescriptions.
If a person is dressed in Muslim clothing, that indicates to me they are members of a Mosque and adhere to Sharia law. I prefer to have my medicine filled by non Muslims and do not want Sharia law Muslims working in airports so close to our airplanes. Call me prejudiced against Muslims if you want, but I don't care, it is Sharia law Muslims killing us.
@sinkspur
@Cripplecreek
@RAT Patrol
@bolobaby
@EC
@CatherineofAragon
If you check out the folks at the top of the DHS, I am afraid you will find that the fox has been in charge of that henhouse, along with rumors of the same at CIA. Sad, but true, and not much we can do about that for the moment.
As for the pills, http://www.webmd.com/pill-identification/default.htm (http://www.webmd.com/pill-identification/default.htm) is a good pill identifier, and I don't care who is at the pharmacy, it doesn't hurt to double check medication to make sure it is what it is supposed to be, won't interact badly with other medication, and so you know common side effects and toxicity reactions (especially for a first-time drug). There are other pill identifier pages on the web, I just picked that one because I used it recently.
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For anyone who still thinks it's all just peachy, this one's for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cQgQIMlwWw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cQgQIMlwWw)
We have a few more months of this dream...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eimgRedLkkU
But then we will wake up from this election cycle and realize that we are still alive, fighting for freedom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPKAwJKGSDc
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I disagree...
If you listened to Cruz's speech today at the rally in Cleveland, and I was transcribing it for my husband, here is the gist of what he said:
Cruz says "Our party now has a nominee" and the whole crowd BOOS
Then a Trump plane flies by over head...and Cruz says "That was pretty well orchestrated"
Then he asked someone on his staff if he had emailed the plane to do that, right when he said that...everyone laughed
Cruz goes on: What remains unshakeable is his faith in the men and women at the rally....the obligation to follow our conscience, to speak the truth and truth is unchanging. To defend liberty....a lot of talk about unity, and he wants to see unity and the way to see do that is to unite behind shared principles and to unite in defense of liberty. For us to empower the grass roots.
The answer isn't going to come from Wash DC and it won't come from both parties, it'll only come from the grassroots and we the people.
He then reads something Heidi found on internet about camels and asses (I'm sure you've heard the joke)
He's still convinced God is not done with this country yet and if we are faithful, speak the truth, defend liberty and the constitution and empower the people, he promises there are better days ahead
People start chanting/shouting "2020"
He then talks about Indiana, and confesses one of the things he's sorriest about that he most regrets is after suspending his campaign....the group of volunteers...and he's upset that he could not stay and hug each and every one of them, but he didn't have the strength not to break down. He said they had tv cameras everywhere and he wasn't going to let them turn "Lyin Ted" into "Cryin Ted". He said he lasted til about 2 people and he had to go back stage, but
Heidi stayed and hugged every person there.
He explained this afternoon rally was an opportunity for them to hug the people and thank them and say they are humbled and privileged to do it side by side fighting for this country they love with all their hearts.
Thanks for that! I haven't yet watched the speech. :patriot:
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He is SUCH the better man.
His are very Reaganesque words. He spoke of not only unifying the party but the nation and he also warned against looking to government or politicians for salvation.
(http://i.imgur.com/9NMb5Zy.png)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=nukzTmu8tPA
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Would like for us to revisit what Smokin' Joe had put together as proofs why Principled Conservatives have no business supporting Trump or the party he and the Establishment have taken over in total:
Donald J. Trump has:
praised Obama
supported amnesty
praised "Stimulus"
praised bailouts
praised ethanol subsidies
support eminent domain for corporate gain
supported corporate welfare
said women needed to be treated like $#@!
supported government-run healthcare
praised Planned Parenthood
supported present abortion laws
donated money to Hillary Clinton
donated money to Clinton Foundation
donated money to Charlie Rangel
donated money to Rahm Emmanuel
donated money to Bill deBlasio
owned a strip club
hosted porn convention
said Scott Walker should have raised taxes
avoided taxes through crooked scheme
turned on criminal partner when caught
declared bankruptcy
supported common core
supported assault weapons ban
supported long wait times for 2nd amendment
controlling and shutting down parts of internet
wanted new libel laws against free press
said gay marriage was "law of the land"
said we should not side with Israel
associated with mafia figures
hosted birthday parties for mafia kid
spent Christmas Eve with George Soros
paid a $10 million fine for money laundering
boasted about paying off politicians for favors
ripped off family members inheritance
never said he'd get away with killing someone on 5th avenue
encouraged his supporters to punch protesters
promised to make deals with Democrats if elected
promised a wall with a great big door for amnesty
said he could change positions any time he wanted
flip-flopped on common core in 3 minutes
No Conservative worth his salt will endorse or support someone like this as a representative of Conservatism.
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Ted Cruz is still optimistic that conservatism can have a positive impact on the GOP.
I'm not very optimistic. If Trump wins there will be no chance that conservatism can become a real partner of the party again.
You are correct. Reagan needed Ford to lose in 1976 in order to win in 1980. His speech was based on that assumption. Cruz needs to take a page out of that book and walk the thin line in his speech. Don't dump his conservative supporters. He also needs to avoid insulting the soft Trump supporters. The hardcore ones will not settle for anything less than obeisance.
:da man:
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Well this is disgusting.
Christie to Cruz: Endorse Trump or be 'less of a person'
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/christie-cruz-trump-endorsement-225903
Shut up and do the Truffle Shuffle for the master, Chunk.
Get the one the master called a child molester over here to do it too.
I absolutely can't stand that opportunistic pig, Chris Christie. He is very clearly trying to drag Ted down to his level.
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I recalled one calling someone's post as being melodramatic or something and telling me to get a grip! That's what I saw!
Enjoy your fart cartoons buddy, sorry you disagree with me.
Whoa. The fart cartoon was in response to an earlier poster's comment about another's screen name, and a round about reference to flatulence. See post 33 on this thread.
:shrug: **nononono* :thud:
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I absolutely can't stand that opportunistic pig, Chris Christie. He is very clearly trying to drag Ted down to his level.
LOL that was my comment on twitter. LOL
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Yes... 90 years, 3 months, 19 days.
Or 32,982 days.
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See! That is a long time!
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His are very Reaganesque words. He spoke of not only unifying the party but the nation and he also warned against looking to government or politicians for salvation.
(http://i.imgur.com/9NMb5Zy.png)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=nukzTmu8tPA
Awesome. Chris Christie should read it and learn something. What a disgusting pos he is.
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I disagree...
If you listened to Cruz's speech today at the rally in Cleveland, and I was transcribing it for my husband, here is the gist of what he said:
Cruz says "Our party now has a nominee" and the whole crowd BOOS
Then a Trump plane flies by over head...and Cruz says "That was pretty well orchestrated"
Then he asked someone on his staff if he had emailed the plane to do that, right when he said that...everyone laughed
Cruz goes on: What remains unshakeable is his faith in the men and women at the rally....the obligation to follow our conscience, to speak the truth and truth is unchanging. To defend liberty....a lot of talk about unity, and he wants to see unity and the way to see do that is to unite behind shared principles and to unite in defense of liberty. For us to empower the grass roots.
The answer isn't going to come from Wash DC and it won't come from both parties, it'll only come from the grassroots and we the people.
He then reads something Heidi found on internet about camels and asses (I'm sure you've heard the joke)
He's still convinced God is not done with this country yet and if we are faithful, speak the truth, defend liberty and the constitution and empower the people, he promises there are better days ahead
People start chanting/shouting "2020"
He then talks about Indiana, and confesses one of the things he's sorriest about that he most regrets is after suspending his campaign....the group of volunteers...and he's upset that he could not stay and hug each and every one of them, but he didn't have the strength not to break down. He said they had tv cameras everywhere and he wasn't going to let them turn "Lyin Ted" into "Cryin Ted". He said he lasted til about 2 people and he had to go back stage, but
Heidi stayed and hugged every person there.
He explained this afternoon rally was an opportunity for them to hug the people and thank them and say they are humbled and privileged to do it side by side fighting for this country they love with all their hearts.
Thank you for posting this. Sen Cruz is such a class act.
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LOL that was my comment on twitter. LOL
Great minds! :patriot: :laugh:
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2. This site is noting like TOS. If you want we could vote on it.
Poll Poll Poll......
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His are very Reaganesque words. He spoke of not only unifying the party but the nation and he also warned against looking to government or politicians for salvation.
One thing I always notice about Ted Cruz, is that when he speaks, he doesn't say I, or me, or refer to him being apart from the people...he refers to all of US and he includes himself in that equation. He talks TO us and uses language that he's WITH us. He refers to US, not me, not you, not I...US
Just like with Reagans speeches, he brings tears to my eyes. I watch and listen to him and think, THAT is what we could have had....@$$H0L#$!! It makes me more mad at all the DUNDERHEADS in this country and where they've taken us. 8888crybaby
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The next time someone uses that "you have to vote for Trump, because Hillary" crap....tell them this:
"I would rather let Joe babysit my kids instead of Mike because Joe has raped fewer kids than Mike."
Let that sink in for a second.
Now, understand that this is exactly what you sound like when you're attempting to justify your decision to vote for the lesser of two evils.
Ha---that makes good sense.
BTW, thanks for posting that Cruz video...I'm watching now.
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I absolutely can't stand that opportunistic pig, Chris Christie. He is very clearly trying to drag Ted down to his level.
Christie sold Romney down the river in 2012 with his photo-op with Obama. He is perfectly willing to sell Cruz down the river in 2016 so he has time to get in shape for 2020.
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(http://rollingout.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Michelle-Obama-bring-back-m.gif?dd1bbe)
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(https://ioneblackamericaweb.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/melaniatrumpmeme2.jpg?w=530&h=320&crop=1)
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One thing I always notice about Ted Cruz, is that when he speaks, he doesn't say I, or me, or refer to him being apart from the people...he refers to all of US and he includes himself in that equation. He talks TO us and uses language that he's WITH us. He refers to US, not me, not you, not I...US
Just like with Reagans speeches, he brings tears to my eyes. I watch and listen to him and think, THAT is what we could have had....@$$H0L#$!! It makes me more mad at all the DUNDERHEADS in this country and where they've taken us. 8888crybaby
Bingo.
A Russian friend tells me that its why Reagan had such an effect there. She said that they were used to Russian leaders standing on a dais 30 feet above the crowd and speaking looking over the crowd with only an occasional glance down. With Reagan he may have stood on that same dais and spoke words they didn't understand but he looked into the crowd at individual faces and those individuals saw real genuine kindness in his eyes. My friend says it was almost a religious experience for a lot of Russians.
(http://i.imgur.com/LjkpVJs.jpg)
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The next time someone uses that "you have to vote for Trump, because Hillary" crap....tell them this:
"I would rather let Joe babysit my kids instead of Mike because Joe has raped fewer kids than Mike."
Let that sink in for a second.
Now, understand that this is exactly what you sound like when you're attempting to justify your decision to vote for the lesser of two evils.
Neither candidate will [likely] rape our children.
What my husband tells me is, he would rather vote for a clown than have the Antichrist in office. Not everyone sees her as such, but for me, I think the devil is in the details. With a crappy candidate on the [R] side, Satan sees his [evil] queen rise to the top.
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(http://drrichswier.com/wp-content/uploads/trump-cruz-thumbs-up-630x354.jpg)(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/0e31a4019698f10c02016759774029d0e0ae3f91/r=880&c=880x495/http/wusa-download.edgesuite.net/video/71921292/71921292_Still.jpg)
If Cruz is the conservative and Trump is liberal as so many say, why were Cruz and Trump so buddy buddy?
Hypocrisy.
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Well this is disgusting.
Christie to Cruz: Endorse Trump or be 'less of a person'
That's kinda funny coming from Fat Boy.
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Neither candidate will [likely] rape our children.
What my husband tells me is, he would rather vote for a clown than have the Antichrist in office. Not everyone sees her as such, but for me, I think the devil is in the details. With a crappy candidate on the [R] side, Satan sees his [evil] queen rise to the top.
It is true that Hillary is much worse than Trump. It is also true Trump missed an opportunity to unify the party.
Cruz will be a good check on Trump in the Senate. Hopefully, Cruz will use his legislative leverage to bring Trump to more conservative positions.
But Trump will not always do so on his own volition. That is Trump realism.
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That's kinda funny coming from Fat Boy.
Almost pulled out the doughnut pictures....
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That's kinda funny coming from Fat Boy.
Cruz is making him look bad by refusing to grovel at the feet of Trump.
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(http://drrichswier.com/wp-content/uploads/trump-cruz-thumbs-up-630x354.jpg)(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/0e31a4019698f10c02016759774029d0e0ae3f91/r=880&c=880x495/http/wusa-download.edgesuite.net/video/71921292/71921292_Still.jpg)
If Cruz is the conservative and Trump is liberal as so many say, why were Cruz and Trump so buddy buddy?
Hypocrisy.
Your pictures are fine. Better to emphasize that Cruz and Trump could, can and have work[ed] together.
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Well this is disgusting.
Christie to Cruz: Endorse Trump or be 'less of a person'
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/christie-cruz-trump-endorsement-225903
Shut up and do the Truffle Shuffle for the master, Chunk.
Get the one the master called a child molester over here to do it too.
The morning after Trump loses, Christie will wake up on the floor, surrounded by empty ice cream cartons and Little Debbie boxes, with tears staining his suit lapels. And Trump will never even call.
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Well this is disgusting.
Christie to Cruz: Endorse Trump or be 'less of a person'
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/christie-cruz-trump-endorsement-225903
Shut up and do the Truffle Shuffle for the master, Chunk.
Get the one the master called a child molester over here to do it too.
Maybe Christie should have withheld his endorsement because he damned sure could stand to be less of a person. About 150 lbs less.
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You are correct. Reagan needed Ford to lose in 1976 in order to win in 1980. His speech was based on that assumption. Cruz needs to take a page out of that book and walk the thin line in his speech. Don't dump his conservative supporters. He also needs to avoid insulting the soft Trump supporters. The hardcore ones will not settle for anything less than obeisance.
:da man:
A couple of weeks ago, we received a letter from Cruz (form letter, of course), and he mentioned Reagan's loss to Ford in 1976/1980 comeback. I have hope for tonight's speech.
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If Cruz is the conservative and Trump is liberal as so many say, why were Cruz and Trump so buddy buddy?
Hypocrisy.
Perhaps Sen. Cruz was extending the benefit of the doubt to Mr. Trump, until Mr. Trump showed his true self. Lots of people do that, you know.
It's not hypocrisy, just decency.
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A couple of weeks ago, we received a letter from Cruz (form letter, of course), and he mentioned Reagan's loss to Ford in 1976/1980 comeback. I have hope for tonight's speech.
There's a lot of talk about 2020 and they wouldn't be saying it if they thought Trump was going to win.
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Q: How many Little Debbie's does it take to make a big Debbie?
A: Not as many as you might think.
The phat jokes just write themselves. Hopefully, no one here is phat- fat is ok.
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It'll be good to hear Scott Walker speak, one of the Governors who have more than hot air to their name like the Senators. Walker or Perry would have been ideal and have proven records.
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You may be far more confident in how you see your tomorrows unfold. I am a simple man that knows not each day if I will be blessed to awaken once again as I lay down to rest. As simple as I am, I can recall that when I laid my head to rest on September 10, 2001, I had no foresight as to what I would awaken to. That recollection serves to remind me of my place in the grand scheme. YMMV.
@katzenjammer
I'm a pretty simple person myself, and I agree with you that none of us knows what the next day, or even the next moment, might hold for us.
But let me ask you---do you believe that simplicity of spirit precludes having strong convictions and principles?
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There's a lot of talk about 2020 and they wouldn't be saying it if they thought Trump was going to win.
What time is Cruz's speech tonight?
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There's a lot of talk about 2020 and they wouldn't be saying it if they thought Trump was going to win.
This is VERY true.
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Neither candidate will [likely] rape our children.
Only one of them has been accused but both are known associates of at least one big time pedophile.
So, hedge your bets on that.
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Q: How many Little Debbie's does it take to make a big Debbie?
A: Not as many as you might think.
*snicker*
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What time is Cruz's speech tonight?
2:45am in Outer Waldoniastan
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(http://drrichswier.com/wp-content/uploads/trump-cruz-thumbs-up-630x354.jpg)(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/0e31a4019698f10c02016759774029d0e0ae3f91/r=880&c=880x495/http/wusa-download.edgesuite.net/video/71921292/71921292_Still.jpg)
If Cruz is the conservative and Trump is liberal as so many say, why were Cruz and Trump so buddy buddy?
Hypocrisy.
If Cruz is such a liar, why would Trump want his endorsement?
Hypocrisy.
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That's kinda funny coming from Fat Boy.
Chris Christie: "I Weigh Too Much Because I Eat Too Much"
http://gothamist.com/2011/07/29/chris_christie_i_weigh_too_much_bec.php
Basically admits that his lack of discipline causes health problems.
Thought he had lap band surgery to check his weight....
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Perhaps Sen. Cruz was extending the benefit of the doubt to Mr. Trump, until Mr. Trump showed his true self. Lots of people do that, you know.
It's not hypocrisy, just decency.
Chris Kyle's widow quickly thanked Ted Cruz for his kindness and respect for Rick Perry on the day Perry dropped out (She had endorsed Perry). She called Cruz one of the great men of Texas.
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Perhaps Sen. Cruz was extending the benefit of the doubt to Mr. Trump, until Mr. Trump showed his true self. Lots of people do that, you know.
It's not hypocrisy, just decency.
Exactly. A LOT has happened since those pictures were taken. I gave Trump the benefit of the doubt at first too, so I sympathize with Cruz.
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It'll be good to hear Scott Walker speak, one of the Governors who have more than hot air to their name like the Senators. Walker or Perry would have been ideal and have proven records.
Walker who dissed the TEA Party for wanting to run primary opponents against RINO GOPe leaders
and the "heartless" Perry who think wifi along the border will stop immigration
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I disagree...
If you listened to Cruz's speech today at the rally in Cleveland, and I was transcribing it for my husband, here is the gist of what he said:
Cruz says "Our party now has a nominee" and the whole crowd BOOS
Then a Trump plane flies by over head...and Cruz says "That was pretty well orchestrated"
Then he asked someone on his staff if he had emailed the plane to do that, right when he said that...everyone laughed
Cruz goes on: What remains unshakeable is his faith in the men and women at the rally....the obligation to follow our conscience, to speak the truth and truth is unchanging. To defend liberty....a lot of talk about unity, and he wants to see unity and the way to see do that is to unite behind shared principles and to unite in defense of liberty. For us to empower the grass roots.
The answer isn't going to come from Wash DC and it won't come from both parties, it'll only come from the grassroots and we the people.
He then reads something Heidi found on internet about camels and asses (I'm sure you've heard the joke)
He's still convinced God is not done with this country yet and if we are faithful, speak the truth, defend liberty and the constitution and empower the people, he promises there are better days ahead
People start chanting/shouting "2020"
He then talks about Indiana, and confesses one of the things he's sorriest about that he most regrets is after suspending his campaign....the group of volunteers...and he's upset that he could not stay and hug each and every one of them, but he didn't have the strength not to break down. He said they had tv cameras everywhere and he wasn't going to let them turn "Lyin Ted" into "Cryin Ted". He said he lasted til about 2 people and he had to go back stage, but
Heidi stayed and hugged every person there.
He explained this afternoon rally was an opportunity for them to hug the people and thank them and say they are humbled and privileged to do it side by side fighting for this country they love with all their hearts.
Levin was playing some of his speech. Damn, Cruz sounds good! Not a great speech necessarily, but a passionate, clear, heartfelt speech by an honest man.
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I gave Trump the benefit of the doubt at first too, so I sympathize with Cruz.
Same here. They could have made a good team until Trump decided that Cruz was a threat and started the first of his personal attacks by questioning the religious faith of Cruz's Cuban father (and by extension Cruz).
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(http://drrichswier.com/wp-content/uploads/trump-cruz-thumbs-up-630x354.jpg)(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/0e31a4019698f10c02016759774029d0e0ae3f91/r=880&c=880x495/http/wusa-download.edgesuite.net/video/71921292/71921292_Still.jpg)
If Cruz is the conservative and Trump is liberal as so many say, why were Cruz and Trump so buddy buddy?
Hypocrisy.
And speaking of hypocrisy, haven't I seen about the same picture with Trump and Hillary?
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I take it @R4 TrumPence is a bit bitter about last night. I've learned through a lot of trial and error to NEVER PISS OFF A WOMAN...lol.
I have learned through much error and trial that sometimes it cannot be avoided. :shrug:
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Anyone could read my history on FR and see that I gave Trump the same good will at the beginning
I called him for what he was and is on day one. Running interference for Hillary.
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Does anyone else have this (somewhat irrational) premonition that DT is going to walk out on stage Thursday, say "You all are a bunch of suckers, thus endeth the GOP, enjoy the Clintons," drop the mic, then walk out?
Not until Halloween.
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If Cruz is the conservative and Trump is liberal as so many say, why were Cruz and Trump so buddy buddy?
Hypocrisy.
(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2016/news/160314/donald-hillary-800.jpg)
If Trump is the conservative as so many say, and Hillary is liberal, why were Trump and Hillary so buddy buddy?
Hypocrisy.
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But it was just a rally preview, right? Not a speech speech.
It was the speech Cruz gave earlier. Not tonight's. Which I understand will take place at 8:45 CST.
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Anyone could read my history on FR and see that I gave Trump the same good will at the beginning as Cruz and the posters here. That deal is dead. He killed it months ago. Plus I've learned more about his history than I knew at the beginning. NO FREAKING POSSIBLE WAY I WILL EVER VOTE FOR HIM FOR ANYTHING -- except maybe Chief Pooper Scooper. He could then walk in circles and clean up after himself.
Yep. That too.
I doubted his motives from the very beginning as well, but then still decided to give him the benefit of the doubt. That was a HUGE mistake, and too many conservatives made it. The more I saw of him, and more I learned of his history; it became obvious that he was a complete fraud and liar running a scorched earth campaign (which told me he would be fine if Hillary got elected).
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Not until Halloween.
It'll be too late to do anything about it then
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You may be far more confident in how you see your tomorrows unfold. I am a simple man that knows not each day if I will be blessed to awaken once again as I lay down to rest. As simple as I am, I can recall that when I laid my head to rest on September 10, 2001, I had no foresight as to what I would awaken to. That recollection serves to remind me of my place in the grand scheme. YMMV.
Nice to see you back here, Mr. Katzenjammer.
While we may disagree on Mr. Trump, you have always been a source of thoughtful and personally respectful commentary, of which there is always a great need, here and elsewhere.
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It was the speech Cruz gave earlier. Not tonight's. Which I understand will take place at 8:45 CST.
Cruz got a plum time slot. Here is hoping he is gracious toward Trump on unifying on constitution and liberty principles.
I am thinking about budget deals down the road.
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If Cruz is such a liar, why would Trump want his endorsement?
Hypocrisy.
THIS^^^^
Bears repeating. blij26
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Cruz got a plum time slot. Here is hoping he is gracious toward Trump on unifying on constitution and liberty principles.
I am thinking about budget deals down the road.
"Gracious toward Trump"? Wow.
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Josh Barro @jbarro 8m8 minutes ago
RNC house band playing "My Sharona"
"Never gonna stop, give it up, such a dirty mind, I always get it up for the touch of the younger kind"
Josh Barro @jbarro 7m7 minutes ago
Donald Trump always loved hearing this song at Jeffrey Epstein's house
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Cruz got a plum time slot. Here is hoping he is gracious toward Trump on unifying on constitution and liberty principles.
He'd better not endorse Trump in any way shape or form. He'll try to unify Republicans with a grand vision, no doubt.
Unfortunately, I can't ever support the Republican Party again. They have gone so far away from the principles of Reagan than I do not foresee any chance of supporting them.
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"Gracious toward Trump"? Wow.
Cruz has no downside . Especially if he hues to the theme from this afternoon and speaks a few more kind words toward Trump than Perry did,
Or Rubio...
Or Kasich...
Or Jindal...
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The Tumps and the Clintons have been buddies for along time so this really shouldn't be a surprise.
What bothers me is how much nonsense is in those words she borrowed from Michelle. For starters: 1. Scaricty of resources will stop you far sooner than the size of your dreams. 2. You are not going to be happy trying to to live for yourself and your dreams anyways. It's just stupid advice. It was stupid then and its stupid now. It runs the ragged edge of liberal "I'm entitled to everything" claptrap and its not something you want to teach your kids.
Actually, the vibe I got from it was on the order of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww&feature=youtu.be)
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GUYS:
Let's stay over here and enjoy our discussion. Please don't venture over to the LIVE thread to stir up stuff. It serves no purpose except agitation. And, if they venture over here, treat them with respect and disagree firmly or ignore.
I vote for ignore.
Just trying to show the many lurkers (and there are MANY) that we aren't the troublemakers on this forum. We're already hundreds of posts ahead, so this is the party thread.
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I called him for what he was and is on day one. Running interference for Hillary.
And you were 100% right! I was merely amused by him and thought that he would flame out during the debates. WRONG! :thud:
With that said, I knew he was a charlatan going back to 2011, when I compiled a massive bookmark list of his liberalism, shady friends, and general NYC corruption.
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Any bets if :baghead: shows up for a network interview the same time Cruz goes on, putting the cameras on himself instead, like he did when the Benghazi mom spoke?
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Actually, the vibe I got from it was on the order of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww&feature=youtu.be)
I'm sorta marge.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CvBJAuPW2U
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"Gracious toward Trump"? Wow.
Trump deserves the same level of graciousness Trump showed Cruz and his family.
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Cruz has no downside . Especially if he hues to the theme from this afternoon and speaks a few more kind words toward Trump than Perry did,
Or Rubio...
Or Kasich...
Or Jindal...
No downside? Yes, there is a big downside - he risks coming off as just another slippery politician if he lies like that. His integrity is one thing that many of us admire about him.
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We're already hundreds of posts ahead, so this is the party thread.
Ya dont say. Funny how free speech works...
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And you were 100% right! I was merely amused by him and thought that he would flame out during the debates. WRONG! :thud:
Never underestimate the power of stupid.
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Never underestimate the power of stupid.
Ain't that the truth!
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Josh Barro @jbarro 8m8 minutes ago
RNC house band playing "My Sharona"
"Never gonna stop, give it up, such a dirty mind, I always get it up for the touch of the younger kind"
Josh Barro @jbarro 7m7 minutes ago
Donald Trump always loved hearing this song at Jeffrey Epstein's house
Someone seems to have a "knack" for the absurd.
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No downside? Yes, there is a big downside - he risks coming off as just another slippery politician if he lies like that. His integrity is one thing that many of us admire about him.
There is fawning, there damning with faint praise and there is kind words.
Something like this afternoon where Cruz notes that he beat 15 and Donald beat 16.
Donald completed some YUGe projects like the DC post office and NYC skating rink.
Thats about it.
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Someone seems to have a "knack" for the absurd.
The Knack was Geofery Figer's brother's band. (Yeah, Jack Kevorkian's attorney)
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Trump deserves the same level of graciousness Trump showed Cruz and his family.
Nonetheless, a demonstration of graciousness is never more powerful than when it is offered to one who scarcely deserves it.
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Cruz got a plum time slot. Here is hoping he is gracious toward Trump on unifying on constitution and liberty principles.
I am thinking about budget deals down the road.
After the smear jobs Trump pulled on Cruz's wife and father, Ted has no obligation to be gracious to him. Rather, the opposite is true.
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Nonetheless, a demonstration of graciousness is never more powerful than when it is offered to one who scarcely deserves it.
Why didnt I say that!
Exactly what I mean.
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I'm gonna watch tonight, but I'm gonna skip tomorrow night.
That harmonica playing is pretty impressive, btw.
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After the smear jobs Trump pulled on Cruz's wife and father, Ted has no obligation to be gracious to him. Rather, the opposite is true.
Dont I know it. And yet, Ted will look good for it.
I dont mean fawning like Christie did.
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Nonetheless, a demonstration of graciousness is never more powerful than when it is offered to one who scarcely deserves it.
Ted Cruz excels at it.
Its why Medea Benjamin and Code Pink showed up to protest him and she ended up calling him a patriot and thanking him.
She walked away looking dazed like she didn't know what just happened. :silly:
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I'm gonna watch tonight, but I'm gonna skip tomorrow night.
That harmonica playing is pretty impressive, btw.
The band is pretty tight. The RNC dancing, not so much. 😂
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Trump's response to her would just have been "Well, you're ugly" and his supporters would be raving over his oratory prowess...
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Ted Cruz excels at it.
Its why Medea Benjamin and Code Pink showed up to protest him and she ended up calling him a patriot and thanking him.
She walked away looking dazed like she didn't know what just happened. :silly:
Recall how Ted dealt with that farmer in Iowa who was worried about ethanol subsidies. Ted spent ten minutes patiently laying out the facts.
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@katzenjammer
I'm a pretty simple person myself, and I agree with you that none of us knows what the next day, or even the next moment, might hold for us.
But let me ask you---do you believe that simplicity of spirit precludes having strong convictions and principles?
Not at all, I only suggest that sometimes what we humans "know" today, may be viewed differently come some tomorrow.
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Trump was asked on CNN about offering the VP choice to Kasich:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn2LklwVMAE9ZfA.jpg)
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The band is pretty tight. The RNC dancing, not so much. 😂
I'm reminded of one of the frustrations with the party apparatus at the precinct level. It is mostly a red hat lady social club.
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Nice to see you back here, Mr. Katzenjammer.
While we may disagree on Mr. Trump, you have always been a source of thoughtful and personally respectful commentary, of which there is always a great need, here and elsewhere.
Good to see you too, Andy!
I take it that the Youtube video that I left for you was less than convincing! lol
Enjoy your anniversary trip!!
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Nothing ever disappears on Twitter:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump May 3
Wow, Lyin' Ted Cruz really went wacko today. Made all sorts of crazy charges. Can't function under pressure - not very presidential. Sad!
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Ted Cruz excels at it.
Its why Medea Benjamin and Code Pink showed up to protest him and she ended up calling him a patriot and thanking him.
She walked away looking dazed like she didn't know what just happened. :silly:
Nice insight. I'm not sure just what Cruz should say. He knows he's got a future, obviously more so if Trump loses. But he can't just come out against Trump, like a "civilian" like me can. I think the best approach is to make a serious philosophical defense of conservatism itself. Let everyone make up their minds about what to do with the information. But the GOP and the nation really needs, at this point in time, a serous, concise and convincing apologia for liberty and opportunity-centric government. Like Reagan did back in the sixties.
Let Cruz hit a pitch in his wheelhouse and shine a light on what Our Side favors, Trump or no Trump.
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Dont I know it. And yet, Ted will look good for it.
I dont mean fawning like Christie did.
Something like "Trump was an honorable man"... ?
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Recall how Ted dealt with that farmer in Iowa who was worried about ethanol subsidies. Ted spent ten minutes patiently laying out the facts.
I remember one of the big ethanol CEO got on board with Cruz because he agreed that subsidies would be more damaging in the long run. Granted he was looking at cutting out some of his competition but he was correct in stating that they wouldn't exist without taxpayers propping them up and weren't really competing on a level field
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"Isn't that right, Mrs. Clinton?"
Go Laura!
Too bad Trump is no better.
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Dont I know it. And yet, Ted will look good for it.
I dont mean fawning like Christie did.
I don't think he would look good doing it. He'd come across as a doormat who doesn't care that the man ripped his wife and his father.
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Dick comment by Laura. Why would they do what she asks when she insults them?
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Mark Kornblau @MarkKornblau 22m22 minutes ago
Art of the Deal ghostwriter Tony Schwartz just told @maddow on @MSNBC that Trump has sent him a cease and desist to stop him from speaking.
I saw this interview. Trump's lawyers are threatening a lawsuit if Schwartz continues to say that much of "The Art of the Deal" is lies.
Can you imagine this meathead with a Justice Department behind him?
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(http://i.imgur.com/4kIztG9.jpg)
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Nice insight. I'm not sure just what Cruz should say. He knows he's got a future, obviously more so if Trump loses. But he can't just come out against Trump, like a "civilian" like me can. I think the best approach is to make a serious philosophical defense of conservatism itself. Let everyone make up their minds about what to do with the information. But the GOP and the nation really needs, at this point in time, a serous, concise and convincing apologia for liberty and opportunity-centric government. Like Reagan did back in the sixties.
Let Cruz hit a pitch in his wheelhouse and shine a light on what Our Side favors, Trump or no Trump.
The best thing Cruz can do is be Cruz.
He doesn't even have to address Trump. All he needs to do is speak out against the Washington cartel, go up there, and talk about conservatism: the image and message of what America's direction needs to be. Cruz did that a lot during this campaign.
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Man, Laura's sure earning her kneepads tonight...
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Does Laura really think Trump is going to send any lobbyists packing? How's he going to do that without shrinking government, Laura? He wouldn't even stand up to ethanol lobbyists in Iowa.
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Mark Levin BLASTS ‘loser’ and ‘failure’ Chris Christie - See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/07/mark-levin-blasts-loser-and-failure-chris-christie#sthash.HMOndwZC.dpuf
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/07/mark-levin-blasts-loser-and-failure-chris-christie
“I wonder what Reagan would think if he was running against someone trashing Nancy?”
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Can't wait to hear Sen Cruz. I really don't care about tomorrow.
I think Sen Cruz will run in 2020 and will win. After 4 yrs of corrupt hillary, or pathological liar trump, the country will be ready for a serious, mature, intelligent leader. Lord knows we haven't had one for a long time.
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Neither candidate will [likely] rape our children.
What my husband tells me is, he would rather vote for a clown than have the Antichrist in office. Not everyone sees her as such, but for me, I think the devil is in the details. With a crappy candidate on the [R] side, Satan sees his [evil] queen rise to the top.
She might be the Whore of Babylon, but the Antichrist is a man (the number of whom is 666).
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Dick comment by Laura. Why would they do what she asks when she insults them?
I thought so. A talker demanding that Cruz endorse?
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Does Laura really think Trump is going to send any lobbyists packing?
Trump is going to do exactly what Obama did to keep the lobbyists out of DC, give them jobs in the administration.
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Man, Laura's sure earning her kneepads tonight...
Laura I ??
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Man, Laura's sure earning her kneepads tonight...
She is angling for a job in Roman's administration. Should Trump happen to get elected, there are going to be a lot of pissed sycophants when they find out the same job was promised to a half a dozen people...
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That speaker was boring.
Pam Bondi up.
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Ramesh Ponnuru
@RameshPonnuru
Ingraham now claiming that opposition to Trump is about "wounded feelings and bruised egos," takes shot at Cruz
We don't need a talk radio administration. I can't believe though that Hannity didn't get a speaking slot seeing as how he's turned his show over to Trump for the last year.
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Mlizzy, I will ditto the sentiment that you have my utmost respect and I read all your posts. I just can't keep my fingers from typing the following:
trump is so much closer to the description of the antichrist than Hillary. trump who gets Christian leaders across the land to endorse him and Christian voters to vote for him and yet it so plain to for all to see and almost entirely documented.. how evil this man is. Can you imagine someone being asked about their faith and responding to the effect that Christianity was important because it got him nominated. Hillary is no antichrist as she is a known evil and has been viewed as evil by Christians for a long time. But, for trump too many Christians will accept anything he does as acceptable and many of the Christian leadership will forsake ......I better stop here.
But, I will again say trump is more fitting of the title of antichrist, the great deceiver, the con man, who has lead many down a path they never ever would have gone before.
@cuky @ratpatrol ~ I should have put "an Antichrist" instead of "the Antichrist" in my copy. I am sorry! We do not believe that Hillary is THEE Antichrist, but we feel she is definitely working for the devil. Trump did pick an OK VP, something Hillary will not do. That was when my husband agreed to vote for him.
And then there's the influence of "Caroline" (my neighbor of 61 years) and "Aunt Patty," both ultra-right (holy!) ladies (in their 80s and 90s respectively), who both, when asked recently if they'd vote for Trump [even though they don't like him], said, "Yes, we must keep Hillary out of the White House!" Like you said, Hillary is "long time" evil, and the older gals [and guys] can never forget that.
But I understand your viewpoint completely. This is not a good time in America. :0001:
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Trump is going to do exactly what Obama did to keep the lobbyists out of DC, give them jobs in the administration.
Laura sounded quite delusional when it comes to Trump. I guess that's why I don't listen to her show.
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It'll be too late to do anything about it then
Who was the 'pubbie who bailed out of the Senate Race that ended up with Barrack Obama getting the seat. I recall Allan Keyes stepped up at the last minute to replace him, but the damage was done, and Keyes (fine man, I have met him) lost.
Stalking horses have to stay in the way until the last second. If they move too soon, the game falls apart.
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Agree with Bondi's content but delivery is a bit harsh.
Is it me ?
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Pam Bondi...didn't she try to railroad George Zimmerman, and she's acting like a 2 amendment supporter?
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http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/execution-rescheduled-to-accommodate-pam-bondi-fundraiser/2140891
Execution rescheduled to accommodate Pam Bondi fundraiser
Adam C. SmithAdam C. Smith, Times Political Editor
Monday, September 9, 2013 7:21pm
There is no graver responsibility and act of state government than an execution.
In Florida this week, a campaign fundraiser takes precedence.
Attorney General Pam Bondi persuaded Gov. Rick Scott to postpone an execution scheduled for tonight because it conflicted with her re-election kick-off reception.
"What's going on down there? It's ridiculous," said Phyllis Novick, the Ohio mother of one of Marshall Lee Gore's victims, when told Monday about the reason for the delay.
Gore, 50, raped, strangled and stabbed 30-year-old Robyn Novick in 1988 before dumping her body into a Miami-Dade County trash heap. Gore was also sentenced to die for the slaying of 19-year-old Susan Roark, whose body was found a few months later in Columbia County.
Gore was initially scheduled for execution in June, but the date was twice delayed because of legal skirmishes over Gore's sanity.
After Scott last month rescheduled the execution for Sept. 10, the date of Bondi's "hometown campaign kickoff" at her South Tampa home, Bondi's office asked that it be postponed. The new date is Oct. 1.
Scott said Monday that he did not know the reason for the request, and he declined to answer when asked whether he considers a campaign fundraiser an appropriate reason to reschedule an execution.
"When another Cabinet officer asks for something, we try to work with them," Scott said.
On Monday, Bondi responded to questions with a statement saying she had made a mistake.
"As a prosecutor, there was nothing more important than seeing justice done, especially when it came to the unconscionable act of murder. I personally put two people on death row and, as Attorney General, have already participated in eight executions since I took office, a role I take very seriously," Bondi said.
"The planned execution of Marshall Lee Gore had already been stayed twice by the courts, and we absolutely should not have requested that the date of the execution be moved," said Bondi, who has long championed victims' rights.
Shortly before a scheduled execution, the Florida attorney general typically phones the governor to inform him there is no legal basis for delay. Since Bondi and Scott began their first terms in 2011, eight executions have been carried out.
Gore's attorney, Ted Scher, said he had asked the governor's office for more information about why the execution was postponed, but the governor's staff would say only that it was at the request of the attorney general. That it turned out to be because of a campaign event came as a surprise.
"It's very unusual," Scher said. "It's particularly unusual given the attorney general's position in these cases that all we (defense lawyers) do is delay these executions," Scher said.
Bondi is fighting legal challenges to the 2013 "Timely Justice Act" aimed at speeding up executions in Florida.
"Wherever one stands on the death penalty, there isn't anyone in America that believes an execution should be postponed for political fundraising," said David Donnelly, executive director of Public Campaign Action Fund. "That Pam Bondi requested a delay in this execution shows how the nonstop chase for campaign cash has hollowed out the morality of our political system. Her moral compass is broken."
The delay keeps Gore on death row an extra 21 days at a cost that the Department of Corrections estimates at about $1,000.
The Republican attorney general faces no serious challenger so far, and organizers expect her campaign kick-off event to attract 100 to 200 people. Among those hosting the event: Tampa Mayor Bob Buckhorn, a Democrat; House Speaker Will Weatherford, R-Wesley Chapel; and state Sens. Jack Latvala, R-Clearwater, Bill Galvano, R- Bradenton, Tom Lee, R-Brandon, Wilton Simpson, R- Trilby, and Jeff Brandes, R-St. Petersburg.
The governor won't be there because he made other plans once the execution dropped off his Tuesday schedule.
He will be at a reception in Broward County raising money for his re-election campaign.
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Trump is going to do exactly what Obama did to keep the lobbyists out of DC, give them jobs in the administration.
Trump is the guy who created his own anti gambling PAC in New York to prevent competition to his New Jersey casinos. He doesn't oppose PACs and lobbyists he hires them to do his dirty work. He has been the guy paying the lobbyists to influence lawmakers. All of this now is just truthful hyperbole.
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Bondi also dismissed a lawsuit against Trump University when Trump donated $25,000 to her reelection campaign.
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Laura sounded quite delusional when it comes to Trump. I guess that's why I don't listen to her show.
I managed to enrage both she and Ann Coulter in one fell swoop.
I suggested that the only difference between them was about 50 mg of Haldol. :silly:
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And you were 100% right! I was merely amused by him and thought that he would flame out during the debates. WRONG! :thud:
With that said, I knew he was a charlatan going back to 2011, when I compiled a massive bookmark list of his liberalism, shady friends, and general NYC corruption.
I thought people would see through some of the ridiculous cognitive disconnects (like using the EPA to the fullest extent of the law--and bringing back industry--which the EPA helped kill or run off, if it could move away).
I was gobsmacked when they lapped it up! :shrug: :thud:
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OK, I'm gonna say it...
Get a new hair stylist, Eileen.
I have great respect for our astronauts - apparently your stylist does not.
(Was that mean? I'm not trying to be mean. Call it constructive criticism.)
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Ya dont say. Funny how free speech works...
It is the free market of ideas, not some strongarm monopoly.
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Not at all, I only suggest that sometimes what we humans "know" today, may be viewed differently come some tomorrow.
But sometimes it won't.
Trump has given too many repellent displays of his lack of character and morals for me to pretend they didn't occur.
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Mark Levin BLASTS ‘loser’ and ‘failure’ Chris Christie - See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/07/mark-levin-blasts-loser-and-failure-chris-christie#sthash.HMOndwZC.dpuf
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/07/mark-levin-blasts-loser-and-failure-chris-christie
Thank you, Mark!
I think Christie is doing the GOP-e/Trump bidding with the continued attacks on Cruz. They obviously still fear and hate Ted because if his conservatism and integrity.
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I thought people would see through some of the ridiculous cognitive disconnects (like using the EPA to the fullest extent of the law--and bringing back industry--which the EPA helped kill or run off, if it could move away).
I was gobsmacked when they lapped it up! :shrug: :thud:
The other night someone gave a speech claiming that Trump would protect the ranchers and all americans from federal land grabs and groups like the BLM.
(http://i.imgur.com/E9jXn0Q.jpg)
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Nonetheless, a demonstration of graciousness is never more powerful than when it is offered to one who scarcely deserves it.
:amen:
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I thought Eileen was awesome and inspiring.
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After the smear jobs Trump pulled on Cruz's wife and father, Ted has no obligation to be gracious to him. Rather, the opposite is true.
True, that, but graciousness under such circumstances has a class and strength all its own. That may start the cracks that lead to real buyers remorse in the softer supporters of the nominated.
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This chick up now runs a MLM pyramid scheme for questionable vitamin supplements.
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True, that, but graciousness under such circumstances has a class and strength all its own. That may start the cracks that lead to real buyers remorse in the softer supporters of the nominated.
I would think it would be gracious to not mention DT in the speech.
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OK, I'm gonna say it...
Get a new hair stylist, Eileen.
I have great respect for our astronauts - apparently your stylist does not.
(Was that mean? I'm not trying to be mean. Call it constructive criticism.)
Bit of a Dorothy Hamill vibe?
(https://vpostrel.com/content/deep-glamour/images/a/6a00e553bc525688340148c7658f67970c-200wi.jpeg)
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So it's going to be a while before Cruz is on, right? Because right in the meantime there's a riveting male enhancement infomercial on...
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This speaker's company is a diet pilll MLM. That's not a small business entrepreneur.
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I thought Eileen was awesome and inspiring.
Maybe her hair is flat on top because she wore that space helmet for so long.
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True, that, but graciousness under such circumstances has a class and strength all its own. That may start the cracks that lead to real buyers remorse in the softer supporters of the nominated.
Yes.
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Is this Youngevity person a tranny? :shrug:
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Man, she really lost her train of thought at the end...or the teleprompter died
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Is this Youngevity person a tranny? :shrug:
Definitely scary looking.... :scared smiley:
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John McCormack @McCormackJohn 7m7 minutes ago
Time for a temporary ban on more RNC speakers until we can figure out what the hell is going on.
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The other night someone gave a speech claiming that Trump would protect the ranchers and all americans from federal land grabs and groups like the BLM.
(http://i.imgur.com/E9jXn0Q.jpg)
Trump can't wait to get his hands on the BLM. I think this is one place he plans on stealing from America.
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With all respect, I think the Lord has already revealed the truth about Trump. And I rest assured that He doesn't expect me to throw support to a man who openly mocks Him.
From his book, "Think Like A Billionaire":
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn055pGXYAAIFf9.jpg)
To add to your point @CatherineofAragon - determining God's will for our lives is not usually difficult because He has already given us the guide book. If what we are doing goes against Scripture, then we are not to do it.
That's what I believe about voting for Donald Trump right now. He is in defiance of God's laws. He flaunts God's laws. He is a mocker.
Voting for him is in direct opposition to the words in Scripture, and I cannot do it.
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I would think it would be gracious to not mention DT in the speech.
I agree. Not punching the Donald in the face is being quite gracious enough.
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Definitely scary looking.... :scared smiley:
She could flex her arm and pop your head like zit between her bicep and forearm
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True, that, but graciousness under such circumstances has a class and strength all its own. That may start the cracks that lead to real buyers remorse in the softer supporters of the nominated.
Joe, normally I'd agree with you, but I just think Trump crossed a line. I'm not saying Cruz should get up there and act like a jerk...well, we know he wouldn't do that. But gracious toward Trump, after everything? No, I'm not for it.
But that's my opinion and he doesn't listen to me, lol.
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I would think it would be gracious to not mention DT in the speech.
I think so, too.
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Good grief!!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn2TlLcW8AEEbBH.jpg)
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Trump can't wait to get his hands on the BLM. I think this is one place he plans on stealing from American.
I'm serious here. Is the man capable of stringing together three coherent sentences in a row?
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Perpetrators love to speak of obligatory graciousness others should show them AFTER their offenses. Here's a clue. The world does not revolve around Trump. In this setting, Cruz's commitment to Truth takes precedent over Donald Jerkwad Trump's feelings. There is a broader picture to consider. Anything less gives aid and comfort to evil. It is in Donald J Trump's best interests to call him on his lies. Honestly it is. The fact that he gets away with his lies and insults is part of why he keeps doing it. It works.
Not a full throated endorsement of Trump . A few kind words.
Donald was very tenacious in real estate and making it in the Manhattan real estate market.
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For those who do not know, here is the line-up:
Wednesday's speakers will be:
Radio host Laura Ingraham
Phil Ruffin, businessman, casino owner and long-time Trump friend
Pam Bondi, Attorney General of Florida
Retired astronaut Eileen Collins
Michelle Van Etten, small business owner
Kentucky State Sen. Ralph Alvarado Jr.
Dr. Darrell Scott, pastor of New Spirit Revival Center Ministries in Cleveland
Harold Hamm, oil and natural gas mogul
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker
Lynn Patton, vice president of the Eric Trump Foundation
U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida
U.S. Sen Ted Cruz of Texas
Eric Trump, Donald Trump's son
Former Speaker of the house Newt Gingrich and his wife, Callista
Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, presumptive candidate for vice president
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To add to your point @CatherineofAragon - determining God's will for our lives is not usually difficult because He has already given us the guide book. If what we are doing goes against Scripture, then we are not to do it.
That's what I believe about voting for Donald Trump right now. He is in defiance of God's laws. He flaunts God's laws. He is a mocker.
Voting for him is in direct opposition to the words in Scripture, and I cannot do it.
Well said.
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John Dickerson @jdickerson 8h8 hours ago
One GOP voice: "Pence says he is a conservative but not angry about it which balances a nominee who is angry & not a conservative about it."
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Not a full throated endorsement of Trump . A few kind words.
Donald was very tenacious in real estate and making it in the Manhattan real estate market.
That's too kind. Trump paid to play in the Manhattan real estate market at the expense of those playing by the rules.
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stuart stevens @stuartpstevens 51s51 seconds ago
This is test of every crackpot idea of how R's should win: just more whites, just more media hate, just more anger, campaigns don't matter.
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John Dickerson @jdickerson 8h8 hours ago
One GOP voice: "Pence says he is a conservative but not angry about it which balances a nominee who is angry & not a conservative about it."
What the hell?
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That's too kind. Trump paid to play in the Manhattan real estate market at the expense of those playing by the rules.
Manhattan ain't Singapore-which turns buildings every five to ten years. I live here . There is HUNDREDS of millions of lost tax revenue due to bad land use north of 96th street. The waste is unbelievable .
Trump cut through the waste.
Better land use would LOWER our taxes .
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This guy is really passionate.
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Tom Elliott
@tomselliott
Just read Cruz transcript. He will not endorse Trump or even say his name.
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This guy is really passionate.
Very passionate speaker. Very convincing .
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Joe, normally I'd agree with you, but I just think Trump crossed a line. I'm not saying Cruz should get up there and act like a jerk...well, we know he wouldn't do that. But gracious toward Trump, after everything? No, I'm not for it.
But that's my opinion and he doesn't listen to me, lol.
I value your opinion, but disagree.
Sure, at some more limbic level of my brain, I'd love to see Cruz come out all claws and teeth and shred that pompous SOB who slandered his way to the nomination.
BUT> For starters, the bots out there would howl that he was whining, a sore loser, couldn't take the heat, poor teddy bare, and a host of other feces thrown at the wall.
The greatest thing Cruz can do to deprive them and Trump of that whole line of argument is to be better than they are.
Move on, to focus on the future and not the past, on the Constitution, on OUR country, and what we need to do to return the Republic to good health, militarily, economically, and socially, and leave Trump out of it. No endorsement, no attack either. Focus on solving problems and by doing so give the new nominee a mark to be gauged by. I think that will be far more impressive and effective in the long run, and deprive the usual suspects of material to rant about.
If they disagree, they expose themselves for what they are, and that places them in a position of either showing their true colors or having to give at least tacit approval to the message, if not Cruz himself.
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Manhattan ain't Singapore-which turns buildings every five to ten years. I live here . There is HUNDREDS of millions of lost tax revenue due to bad land use north of 96th street. The waste is unbelievable .
Trump cut through the waste.
Better land use would LOWER our taxes .
Now, what's a nice guy calling himself LonestarDream doing in a place like Manhattan?
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Jim Antle @jimantle 39s40 seconds ago
This is like Z. Boone Pickens.
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To add to your point @CatherineofAragon - determining God's will for our lives is not usually difficult because He has already given us the guide book. If what we are doing goes against Scripture, then we are not to do it.
That's what I believe about voting for Donald Trump right now. He is in defiance of God's laws. He flaunts God's laws. He is a mocker.
Voting for him is in direct opposition to the words in Scripture, and I cannot do it.
I'm with you on that, musiclady.
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Tom Elliott
@tomselliott
Just read Cruz transcript. He will not endorse Trump or even say his name.
YAY!!!
Good for him, but why did he leak this? Now the media, and especially FNC, will probably cut away from his speech.
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Has Ted spoke yet?
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So what we need is bigger government?
Smaller more efficient government relative to the Gross City Product.
Billions in Gross City product could be unleashed while making government more efficient.
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Nice rags to riches story from this oil baron.
It... uh... "mirrors"... or something... Trump's riches to riches story.
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Has Ted spoke yet?
8:45, so 30 minutes.
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Now, what's a nice guy calling himself LonestarDream doing in a place like Manhattan?
Because one day....
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Josh Barro @jbarro 24s25 seconds ago
Clever astronaut Eileen Collins just skipped over the Trump endorsement she was supposed to make in her RNC speech.
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Here's Gov. Scott Walker
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Tom Elliott
@tomselliott
Just read Cruz transcript. He will not endorse Trump or even say his name.
THAT'S WHAT i'M TALKING ABOUT
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8:45, so 30 minutes.
Thnxs..I foolishly had it on Faux news....
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YES!!!! Thank you Senator Cruz!
Expect TOS heads to explode....
(The Obtuse Sychophants)
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Because one day....
We'll be here.
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So what we need is bigger government?
Yup, its not up to the government to decide what is and isn't good land use.
If the feds had their way my entire state would be evacuated for wetlands protection.
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Thnxs..I foolishly had it on Faux news....
Have they even admitted that he will speak tonight?
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Has Ted spoke yet?
Sounds like it will be about 30 minutes based on lineup schedule with main speakers being given 15 minutes, minor speakers 5 minutes.
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John Dickerson @jdickerson 8h8 hours ago
One GOP voice: "Pence says he is a conservative but not angry about it which balances a nominee who is angry & not a conservative about it."
That's a serious quote?? Seriously??? :shrug:
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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
After the way I beat Gov. Scott Walker (and Jeb, Rand, Marco and all others) in the Presidential Primaries, no way he would ever endorse me!
Ta-da!
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I value your opinion, but disagree.
Sure, at some more limbic level of my brain, I'd love to see Cruz come out all claws and teeth and shred that pompous SOB who slandered his way to the nomination.
BUT> For starters, the bots out there would howl that he was whining, a sore loser, couldn't take the heat, poor teddy bare, and a host of other feces thrown at the wall.
The greatest thing Cruz can do to deprive them and Trump of that whole line of argument is to be better than they are.
Move on, to focus on the future and not the past, on the Constitution, on OUR country, and what we need to do to return the Republic to good health, militarily, economically, and socially, and leave Trump out of it. No endorsement, no attack either. Focus on solving problems and by doing so give the new nominee a mark to be gauged by. I think that will be far more impressive and effective in the long run, and deprive the usual suspects of material to rant about.
If they disagree, they expose themselves for what they are, and that places them in a position of either showing their true colors or having to give at least tacit approval to the message, if not Cruz himself.
Smokin' Joe!!! Huzzah!!!
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Tomorrows new banner.
(http://oi65.tinypic.com/2vrzfpi.jpg)
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YES!!!! Thank you Senator Cruz!
:amen: :amen: :amen: :amen:
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Oh, Walker just went, "If you don't vote for Trump, you are supporting Clinton."
Seriously.
Gimme a break.
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Thnxs..I foolishly had it on Faux news....
If you want to watch the convention, put it on PBS. CNN doesn't talk as much as Fox. AT&T UVerse has a dedicated convention channel -- 1212 in Texas.
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Tomorrows new banner.
(http://oi65.tinypic.com/2vrzfpi.jpg)
That's just mean, Wingnut!
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 27 Jul 2015
When people find out how bad a job Scott Walker has done in WI, they won’t be voting for him. Massive deficit, bad jobs forecast, a mess.
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If you want to watch the convention, put it on PBS. CNN doesn't talk as much as Fox. AT&T UVerse has a dedicated convention channel -- 1212 in Texas.
I'm watching it on CSPAN on my computer.
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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
After the way I beat Gov. Scott Walker (and Jeb, Rand, Marco and all others) in the Presidential Primaries, no way he would ever endorse me!
Ta-da!
He just can't help himself...
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Have they even admitted that he will speak tonight?
Zinggg..........
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Have they even admitted that he will speak tonight?
I am in my computer room..I can hear the tv..but you are right...I have not heard any buildup.
Went in to mix an after dinner drink and heard o-rielly O'pining that this election was whites vrs.. minorities. So I switched to C-Span. Afraid I had missed the only speech I am interested in...although I give Rudy two thumbs up.
Thank you again..and Rat... for letting me know I am just in time. :beer:
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Oh, Walker just went, "If you don't vote for Trump, you are supporting Clinton."
Seriously.
Gimme a break.
Scott Walker **nononono*
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Oh, Walker just went, "If you don't vote for Trump, you are supporting Clinton."
Seriously.
Gimme a break.
Of course he has to say it because this is a party convention and that's what they are selling to people, but it is the old false dichotomy error that continues to get us worse and worse candidates until we get to the point we are now with the two corrupt idiots in the two major parties. By that false logic, any vote for anyone other than Hillary is a vote for Trump- I'm not voting for either so they both can claim the vote.
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Oh, Walker just went, "If you don't vote for Trump, you are supporting Clinton."
Seriously.
Gimme a break.
He'll make a great FREEPer one day. ;)
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Oh, Walker just went, "If you don't vote for Trump, you are supporting Clinton."
Seriously.
Gimme a break.
Why Scott??? WHY????
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See, it is that sort of weakness that made me not support Walker from the start. Don't get me wrong, there are some very good things about him. But he also is weak in some ways. Very strong in other ways -- a mixed bag. Way better than Trump, but still...
Well, he's good for Wisconsin, and very strong there, so I guess that's where he should stay.
(He was my first choice).
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Ted is up very soon! Yay!
Lynn Patton, vice president of the Eric Trump Foundation
U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida
U.S. Sen Ted Cruz of Texas
Eric Trump, Donald Trump's son
Former Speaker of the house Newt Gingrich and his wife, Callista
Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, presumptive candidate for vice president
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He went full FReeper. Never go full FReeper.
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I had to mute it. Listening to this lady wax poetic about Trump was enough to make me sick.
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amy walter @amyewalter 6m6 minutes ago
Trump ran on a platform of populism yet none of the elected Rs have even mentioned ripping up trade deals or going after china.
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See, it is that sort of weakness that made me not support Walker from the start. Don't get me wrong, there are some very good things about him. But he also is weak in some ways. Very strong in other ways -- a mixed bag. Way better than Trump, but still...
I'll not hold it against him...still better than most, on our side for the most.
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He went full FReeper. Never go full FReeper.
I think I've seen full FReeper . . .
(http://favim.com/orig/201105/07/Favim.com-37161.jpg)
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Why Scott??? WHY????
Because it is the party convention and it is what they are selling. People need to really start looking at this whole thing as a business- they are selling you a product, and that product isn't the candidate- the candidate is the marketing gimmick to them, like Ronald McDonald. No, what they are selling is you giving them continued power. They are going to always set up the false dichotomy where you either choose them or you are choosing (or you are) evil. In the Coke versus Pepsi war, you never hear them talking about Dr. Pepper. They can't let people realize there are other options that may fit closer to their values.
The Democrats will do the exact same thing, only in reverse. And both will continue to sell you their power to keep them in business and they'll keep putting up characters as marketing gimmicks.
The two major political parties are as big of business as the largest Fortune 500 companies in the country, and what they sell is emotional connections to them.
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I had to mute it. Listening to this lady wax poetic about Trump was enough to make me sick.
So Trump lets her wet her beak, and she repays with good words...?
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Of course he has to say it because this is a party convention and that's what they are selling to people, but it is the old false dichotomy error that continues to get us worse and worse candidates until we get to the point we are now with the two corrupt idiots in the two major parties. By that false logic, any vote for anyone other than Hillary is a vote for Trump- I'm not voting for either so they both can claim the vote.
Your home is conservative . The loss of your support hurts our side not the left.
Now if you can make Bernie supporters stay home, you are cooking with oil..
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Don't get me wrong, we would be so much better off if he were the nominee rather than Trump. He has done some great things in Wisconsin. I certainly agree with that. He is an honorable man of good character. It's just what I said before...
Yep.
And while his comment tonight was "understandable" at a Convention, he didn't have to say anything at all about it.
I know literally hundreds of people not voting for Trump who are not in any way, shape or form supporting Hillary.
It feels very much like a LIE to me, so I really wish someone I admire had not said it.
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Smaller more efficient government relative to the Gross City Product.
Billions in Gross City product could be unleashed while making government more efficient.
More efficient government is a nice idea, but I want less government. I don't need the Federal Government deciding what light bulbs to put in my sockets, where the cattle can water, how much my toilet can flush in one shot, whether I can fill in that low spot in the yard, or even cut down a tree. It's my land, I'll take care of it, just as my ancestors did the land relatives are still on for over 350 years...and still being farmed.
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Josh Barro @jbarro 17m17 minutes ago
Clever astronaut Eileen Collins just skipped over the Trump endorsement she was supposed to make in her RNC speech.
Oops. Heh heh :silly:
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stuart stevens @stuartpstevens 3m3 minutes ago
This whole thing is like one of those "Eat anything you want & lose weight" diets. It's about instant gratification not results.
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Oh, Walker just went, "If you don't vote for Trump, you are supporting Clinton."
Seriously.
Gimme a break.
My respect for Walker went down when he said that.
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Because it is the party convention and it is what they are selling. People need to really start looking at this whole thing as a business- they are selling you a product, and that product isn't the candidate- the candidate is the marketing gimmick to them, like Ronald McDonald. No, what they are selling is you giving them continued power. They are going to always set up the false dichotomy where you either choose them or you are choosing (or you are) evil. In the Coke versus Pepsi war, you never hear them talking about Dr. Pepper. They can't let people realize there are other options that may fit closer to their values.
The Democrats will do the exact same thing, only in reverse. And both will continue to sell you their power to keep them in business and they'll keep putting up characters as marketing gimmicks.
The two major political parties are as big of business as the largest Fortune 500 companies in the country, and what they sell is emotional connections to them.
Well, it makes sense. I'm a Pepper. ^-^
(Still disappointed in Scott. He could have said nothing about it at all).
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Did I hear that last one screeching LGTB?
TED TED TED
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Biggest applause of the convention so far. Even bigger than when they declared an open bar.
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John Podhoretz @jpodhoretz 35s36 seconds ago
Hero's welcome for Ted Cruz, who is secretly the preferred choice of the majority in the hall
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Scott Walker **nononono*
I always said that he was a squish of the worst sort.
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Here's Ted!!!!
Massive applause!
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WOW! YUGE applause for Cruz!
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I value your opinion, but disagree.
Sure, at some more limbic level of my brain, I'd love to see Cruz come out all claws and teeth and shred that pompous SOB who slandered his way to the nomination.
BUT> For starters, the bots out there would howl that he was whining, a sore loser, couldn't take the heat, poor teddy bare, and a host of other feces thrown at the wall.
The greatest thing Cruz can do to deprive them and Trump of that whole line of argument is to be better than they are.
Move on, to focus on the future and not the past, on the Constitution, on OUR country, and what we need to do to return the Republic to good health, militarily, economically, and socially, and leave Trump out of it. No endorsement, no attack either. Focus on solving problems and by doing so give the new nominee a mark to be gauged by. I think that will be far more impressive and effective in the long run, and deprive the usual suspects of material to rant about.
If they disagree, they expose themselves for what they are, and that places them in a position of either showing their true colors or having to give at least tacit approval to the message, if not Cruz himself.
I don't want him to come out all claws and teeth. Like you say, he'd look like a poor loser.
But someone said it was gracious enough to refrain from punching Trump in the mouth, and I wholeheartedly agree. I want him to ignore Trump's existence.
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Biggest applause of the convention so far. Even bigger than when they declared an open bar.
Well that's going to torque some people off...
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He congratulated Donald Trump on winning the nomination last night. CLASSY!!!
Said he wants to see conservative principles prevail in November!
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He went full FReeper. Never go full FReeper.
I thought I heard some Tropic Thunder.... :silly:
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Good to see a good applause for Ted.
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He congratulates Trump. Gracious to the end.
(Still want to see him mic drop, though.)
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I wish he spoke like this during the primaries. One of Cruz's biggest problems is he spoke like a preacher- speaking at people instead of to them.
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@jbarro 35s36 seconds ago
You'd think Ted could have just left Heidi out of it.
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Because it is the party convention and it is what they are selling. People need to really start looking at this whole thing as a business- they are selling you a product, and that product isn't the candidate- the candidate is the marketing gimmick to them, like Ronald McDonald. No, what they are selling is you giving them continued power. They are going to always set up the false dichotomy where you either choose them or you are choosing (or you are) evil. In the Coke versus Pepsi war, you never hear them talking about Dr. Pepper. They can't let people realize there are other options that may fit closer to their values.
The Democrats will do the exact same thing, only in reverse. And both will continue to sell you their power to keep them in business and they'll keep putting up characters as marketing gimmicks.
The two major political parties are as big of business as the largest Fortune 500 companies in the country, and what they sell is emotional connections to them.
OUTSTANDING ANALYSIS!! :patriot:
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Cruz is making me tear up.
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CSPAN cut to Trump making a surprise entrance into the building (they kept the audio going).
He just couldn't stand someone else getting limelight.
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Yeah, but Ted - is Trump really the "best for our country and their future?"
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@Txsleuthe 53s54 seconds ago Fort Worth, TX
LOLOLOL C-Span breaks from Cruz to show Trump and his peeps entering the building.
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I want him to ignore Trump's existence.
Exactly!
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Major applause when he entered.
https://twitter.com/ali/status/755939304623501312
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Cruz is making his version of Reagan's 76 address and reminding people the people are in charge, not a dictator. He is reminding people of our core values. Something we haven't heard almost all election cycle.
Where was this Cruz during the primaries?
Oh yea, constantly having to react to being called an adulterer, liar, globalist, or son of a Kennedy assassin.
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Trump makes his grand entrance during Cruz's speech and cameras pull away to Trump.
Stay classy, Trump. /extreme sarcasm
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jimgeraghty @jimgeraghty 3m3 minutes ago
Ted Cruz is gonna show his emotional range in this speech. He really wants a Reagan in 1976 "we nominated the wrong man" reaction.
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Your home is conservative . The loss of your support hurts our side not the left.
Now if you can make Bernie supporters stay home, you are cooking with oil..
Not if the person you're not supporting hasn't got a conservative bone in his body.
Our "home" is no longer conservative, Lonestar. It's now much closer to Bernie than it is to Ronnie.
That's why we can't "support" a bad guy like Trump. He's destroying our "home."
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Trump makes his grand entrance during Cruz's speech and cameras pull away to Trump.
Stay classy, Trump. /extreme sarcasm
I made the mistake of clicking over to the freeper live thread. Disgusting how much hate they have for Cruz and how they have 'tingles up their legs' when they cut to Trump for a second.
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What's this free-dom he's talking about?
I thought this was about making America great or safe or something.
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Cruz is making me tear up.
He is speaking in the grand themes of Conservatism....... of values............ of FREEDOM.
Things that Trump doesn't even know enough about to babble about them.
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Still a Cruzer!!
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I'll bet you ten bucks something will happen that will ensure this great speech is upstaged and other than YouTube, this will be the last time you'll see this in its entirety.
You can't have someone talk about liberty, freedom, the constitution, the bill of rights, and all that old fashioned stuff. It empowers the individual and makes them think they don't need someone from the government to help them.
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Cruz is KNOCKING IT OUT OF THE PARK!!!!!
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Trump makes his grand entrance during Cruz's speech and cameras pull away to Trump.
Stay classy, Trump. /extreme sarcasm
Petty creep!
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I made the mistake of clicking over to the freeper live thread. Disgusting how much hate they have for Cruz and how they have 'tingles up their legs' when they cut to Trump for a second.
They are full of hate. It is DISGUSTING!!!
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Still a Cruzer!!
My God, did the GOP nominate the wrong man.
If Trump hadn't lied so much about Cruz... the non-stop personal attacks...
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Most of the audience is on their feet.
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Cruz is making his version of Reagan's 76 address and reminding people the people are in charge, not a dictator. He is reminding people of our core values. Something we haven't heard almost all election cycle.
Where was this Cruz during the primaries?
Oh yea, constantly having to react to being called an adulterer, liar, globalist, or son of a Kennedy assassin.
You got it.
Trump destroyed Cruz' chances with his evil slander.
Good to see him get this chance to show his strength and to hear and see people responding well to him.
I like the comparison with Reagan 76.
Cruz has a FUTURE............ and I'm sure he learned a lot from the evil attacks of Donald J. Trump.
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Still a Cruzer!!
:patriot:
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Does he sounds presidential or what?
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Freedom (Not tariffs) brings back jobs :patriot:
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Calling for voting your conscious and vote for those who are faithful to the constitution.
People had the nerve to boo that line. WOW! Unbelievable.
The party really is split between populists and Conservatives.
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Bazinga!
He said "vote your conscience up and down the ticket!"
Chaos in the hall!
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Does he sounds presidential or what?
Absolutely .... he always has!!
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Wow, the audience is booing this. Thanks for confirming what I saw in the split in the party.
It is about the party game, not the principle.
Thank you for exposing it Cruz.
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Audio only.
Hearing some uproar from the crowd.
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Calling for voting your conscious and vote for those who are faithful to the constitution.
People had the nerve to boo that line. WOW! Unbelievable.
The party really is split between populists and Conservatives.
Not really unbelievable since the man at the head of the ticket has never even read it.....
Populism doesn't involve the Constitution.
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The Trumpettes can't stand it! Drowning out Cruz!
What did you expect, Trumpettes? Cruz to make a ringing endorsement of the guy that called him "Lyin' Ted" all campaign?
He already congratulated Trump.
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Bazinga!
He said "vote your conscience up and down the ticket!"
Chaos in the hall!
He said the same at an earlier meeting with Cruze supporters.
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Trump just walked in upstaging Cruz.
I knew it. He couldn't let that great speech take his limelight.
RIP Republican Party- you did this to yourself- you just showed populism is more important than values. You booed saying to vote for your values and the Constitution-- how vile has that become?
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Eliana Johnson @elianayjohnson 2m2 minutes ago
Cruz urges voters to do what GOP delegates couldn't -- vote your conscience.
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VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE, UP AND DOWN THE TICKET.
Brilliant speech, TC.
Amazing how the crowd is reacting. It's like a boil ready to blow.
He won't mention Trump by name.
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Audio only.
Hearing some uproar from the crowd.
The Donald came in to distract from the best speech the convention will hear.
That's what the din was all about.
Rudeness from the "top" down.
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Absolutely .... he always has!!
My neighbor has a Texas flag hanging in his yard.
He and his wife just moved up from Texas.
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They Trumpettes can't stand it! Drowning out Cruz!
What did you expect, Trumpettes? Cruz to make a ringing endorsement of the guy that called him "Lyin' Ted" all campaign?
He already congratulated Trump.
What an incredible d*ck Trump is.
I can never vote for the jerk.
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Wow, the audience is booing this. Thanks for confirming what I saw in the split in the party.
It is about the party game, not the principle.
Thank you for exposing it Cruz.
Ah, those New York values!
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VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE, UP AND DOWN THE TICKET.
Brilliant speech, TC.
Amazing how the crowd is reacting. It's like a boil ready to blow.
He won't mention Trump by name.
Terrible optics with the crowd booing as Ted Cruz says God Bless America. :patriot:
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I give Cruz a 14 out of a possible 10.
With 4 style points and seven gold leaf clusters.
And sparkles. And stuff.
Remember. Dont stay home in November. And vote UP and down the ticket.
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Cruz was great. No endorsement of lyin' Donald.
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Trump just walked in upstaging Cruz.
I knew it. He couldn't let that great speech take his limelight.
RIP Republican Party- you did this to yourself- you just showed populism is more important than values. You booed saying to vote for your values and the Constitution-- how vile has that become?
The narcissist strikes again.
I swear, that man is downright evil. He has a small child's neediness, and an adult level of sinfulness.
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That is a foundational principle. People who boo are anti-American and anti-Constitution. They want to return to a monarchy I guess.
They even booed when he said 'vote to defend the Constitution'.
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Trump people are rude and crude. Even the orange baboon upstaged Cruz. Cruz should come out tomorrow and endorse the constitution party.
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VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE, UP AND DOWN THE TICKET.
Brilliant speech, TC.
Amazing how the crowd is reacting. It's like a boil ready to blow.
He won't mention Trump by name.
He began his speech congratulating Trump He did not endorse I think that was the right decision and one heck of a speech It was very Petty of Trump to interrupt the speech but totally in character
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Trump kiddie saying, "He's done this all before in the real world... with his own money..."
*cough* bullsh!t *cough*
Trump is so highly leveraged on every deal he makes. Then he stiffs the little contractor when the deal is mismanaged and goes sideways.
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Well played by Cruz.
If Trump had a brain, the call would be, "Ted, what I gotta do to get you on board?"
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Trump people are rude and crude. Even the orange baboon upstaged Cruz. Cruz should come out tomorrow and endorse the constitution party.
After tonight our divorce is final.
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What a prized jackass of a presidential candidate. So lacking in confidence that he had to walk in on the end of Cruz's speech.
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(http://drrichswier.com/wp-content/uploads/trump-cruz-thumbs-up-630x354.jpg)
Oh, yeah, Cruz is the conservative, Trump is the liberal, why was Cruz so buddy buddy with Trump for all of that time.
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My neighbor has a Texas flag hanging in his yard.
He and his wife just moved up from Texas.
Texans are sure proud of being Texans !! Good for your neighbor!!
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Trump just walked in upstaging Cruz.
I knew it. He couldn't let that great speech take his limelight.
RIP Republican Party- you did this to yourself- you just showed populism is more important than values. You booed saying to vote for your values and the Constitution-- how vile has that become?
Trump is an A-HOLE! What a shameful display from him and the NY delegation.
Cruz gave a fantastic, uplifting speech! Oh, what could have been!
The entire Trump family is vile, IMO.
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Thank you Ted.
Folks, we just saw the President America Deserves.
What a radiant difference between the choice presented today.
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Texans are sure proud of being Texans !! Good for your neighbor!!
I wish you guys had waves. I'd be there tomorrow.
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I would think it would be gracious to not mention DT in the speech.
Which is EXACTLY what happened! Thank God!
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Ah, those New York values!
Just what I was thinking.
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Cruz comes out and lays out the platform: nothing but cheers.
Cruz refuses to endorse Trump: near-riot ensues.
Typical of the Republican Party today; all talk, no action.
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I'm not sure just what Cruz should say tonight. He knows he's got a future, obviously more so if Trump loses. But he can't just come out against Trump, like a "civilian" like me can. I think the best approach is to make a serious philosophical defense of conservatism itself. Let everyone make up their minds about what to do with the information. But the GOP and the nation really needs, at this point in time, a serous, concise and convincing apologia for liberty and opportunity-centric government. Like Reagan did back in the sixties.
Let Cruz hit a pitch in his wheelhouse and shine a light on what Our Side favors, Trump or no Trump.
Trump gave just the speech I said he would!
Brilliant, and it was just the sort of thing that could unite the party - that is, if the Trumpsters would let it.
Why can't they lance the boil, even in victory?
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"Trump people are rude and crude. Even the orange baboon upstaged Cruz. Cruz should come out tomorrow and endorse the constitution party."
That's bunk, the Cruzers have been bullies making means pirited personal attacks on others but cry when the website owner told them off. They can get off their high horses, it looks like their campaign got pretty dirty to with all of those mailers that looked official and so on.
Don't let the door hit ya on the way out, loyalty is another thing, Trump won the Evangelical South, people don't want to deal with facts. Cruz was buddy buddy with Trump to for the longest time.
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Cruz was great. No endorsement of lyin' Donald.
Yet he did not say a single negative thing at all about Trump. He even congratulated him at the end.
That they booed him saying 'vote your values, vote for the Constitution, God Bless America' is almost like a Rorschach Test on how many in the hall view things. If it isn't about Trump, it is bad, very bad (to use Trump lingo)..
This just confirmed to me more than ever that there is a big block of people I don't want to have any political power- that used to be relegated to Democrats, but I just added about half the Republican party in it too. They don't stand for our values, they stand for the game.
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After tonight our divorce is final.
Yep, the lines are drawn.
And I will vote my conscience.
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Best....speech....ever! I am so proud of Ted Cruz and so proud that he's a Texan and proud to be a Texan tonite. That is one fine statesman right there.
All class. Which is a trait that others can't get next to.
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They even booed when he said 'vote to defend the Constitution'.
Which is why any real Conservative will want nothing to do with the Republican Party or Trump.
Yet this cabal has the nerve to call US traitors because we will not tow the party line or vote their "nominee". The party that now BOO's talk of defending the Constitution.
Democrats v Republicans - not a damn dime's worth of difference.
Trump v Hilary - one and the same, with Trump being actually worse than the Mao Pantsuit.
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(http://drrichswier.com/wp-content/uploads/trump-cruz-thumbs-up-630x354.jpg)
Oh, yeah, Cruz is the conservative, Trump is the liberal, why was Cruz so buddy buddy with Trump for all of that time.
That is a good question ;)
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I wish you guys had waves. I'd be there tomorrow.
We do! We have waves in the Gulf. When I went to high school, the two opposing cliques were the surfers vs. the cowboys. There were hippies too, but not many and we all sort of ignored them.
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Oh, yeah, Cruz is the conservative, Trump is the liberal, why was Cruz so buddy buddy with Trump for all of that time.
I'm sorry, do you need it explained to you yet again?
Oh yeah, you're a Trump Supporter.
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I give Cruz a 14 out of a possible 10.
With 4 style points and seven gold leaf clusters.
And sparkles. And stuff.
Remember. Dont stay home in November. And vote UP and down the ticket.
100x's :amen:
What a great speech. This is a great moment for conservatives. No one will speak as well and when Trump speaks everyone will remember the booing New Yorkers trying to drown out the man we should have nominated.
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Texans are sure proud of being Texans !! Good for your neighbor!!
He was born here but has lived in Texas for 50 years. He's a good old guy.
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He began his speech congratulating Trump He did not endorse I think that was the right decision and one heck of a speech It was very Petty of Trump to interrupt the speech but totally in character
Yep, totally in character! What a low-life creep!
Ted Cruz was AWESOME!! CLASS ACT!
TX should be proud!
I muted Eric Trump.
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Trump gave just the speech I said he would!
Brilliant, and it was just the sort of thing that could unite the party - that is, if the Trumpsters would let it.
Why can't they lance the boil, even in victory?
I don't hear Trumpsters calling Ted the Olive Skinned Babboon or whatever.
No, the hate from some quarters is the division;
Trump stood up for the police, secured borders, the problem isn't with him, he just ran for the nomination and won.
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David M. Drucker
@DavidMDrucker
Trump only respects people that don't kowtow to him. Cruz did himself some good.
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Trump gave just the speech I said he would!
Brilliant, and it was just the sort of thing that could unite the party - that is, if the Trumpsters would let it.
Why can't they lance the boil, even in victory?
Ahem..I think you mean Ted Cruz.
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"Trump people are rude and crude. Even the orange baboon upstaged Cruz. Cruz should come out tomorrow and endorse the constitution party."
That's bunk, the Cruzers have been bullies making means pirited personal attacks on others but cry when the website owner told them off. They can get off their high horses, it looks like their campaign got pretty dirty to with all of those mailers that looked official and so on.
Don't let the door hit ya on the way out, loyalty is another thing, Trump won the Evangelical South, people don't want to deal with facts. Cruz was buddy buddy with Trump to for the longest time.
Trump won on the votes of liberal democrats, because Hillary had her race in the bag.
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I'm sorry, do you need it explained to you yet again?
Oh yeah, you're a Trump Supporter.
That poster reminds me of someone at TOS who has a bad habit of repeatedly posting pics as their sole means of debate.
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I just got home from watching Ted Cruz on TV with friends.
First as an American and second as a Texan.
GOD BLESS TED CRUZ!!!!!!!
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I don't hear Trumpsters calling Ted the Olive Skinned Babboon or whatever.
No, the hate from some quarters is the division;
Trump stood up for the police, secured borders, the problem isn't with him, he just ran for the nomination and won.
Whatever, trump is the most vile creature evah.. your protestations..no one cares. :tongue2:
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Because it is the party convention and it is what they are selling. People need to really start looking at this whole thing as a business- they are selling you a product, and that product isn't the candidate- the candidate is the marketing gimmick to them, like Ronald McDonald. No, what they are selling is you giving them continued power. They are going to always set up the false dichotomy where you either choose them or you are choosing (or you are) evil. In the Coke versus Pepsi war, you never hear them talking about Dr. Pepper. They can't let people realize there are other options that may fit closer to their values.
The Democrats will do the exact same thing, only in reverse. And both will continue to sell you their power to keep them in business and they'll keep putting up characters as marketing gimmicks.
The two major political parties are as big of business as the largest Fortune 500 companies in the country, and what they sell is emotional connections to them.
EXACTLY right! :beer: :patriot:
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I want to remember that one. You hit the nail on the head.
You have my permission to use it any time you'd like. :patriot:
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Ahem..I think you mean Ted Cruz.
He meant "Cruz gave the speech Trump wished he could give".
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John PodhoretzVerified account
@jpodhoretz John Podhoretz Retweeted Mark Halperin
Interesting tweet by @MarkHalperin before speech suggests Manafort planned the last-minute anti-Cruz rave
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I just got home from watching Ted Cruz on TV with friends.
First as an American and second as a Texan.
GOD BLESS TED CRUZ!!!!!!!
:beer: :patriot: :patriot: :beer:
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That is a good question ;)
A gracious photo op, and an old picture, thousands of slanders ago.
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Whatever, trump is the most vile creature evah.. your protestations..no one cares. :tongue2:
Ignore him and he'll go away....
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I'm sorry, do you need it explained to you yet again?
Oh yeah, you're a Trump Supporter.
No personal attacks, what part of that do you not understand. I'm loyal to the party, if someone wants to say "lesser of two evils" so be it, but I'm loyal.
Cruzers say I'll put you on ignore and you can put me on ignore, no, I'm not a Trump supporter, is your argument so weak, you have to resort to name calling?
I think the website owner has nothing to be ashamed of in addressing the gutteral bullying by the Cruzers, Cruz who was buddy buddy with Trump until the beneficial relationship didn't work.
Oh, now the Cruzers are decrying about class. Aw. Do they have any toilet paper images to post displaying their classiness?
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He meant "Cruz gave the speech Trump wished he could give".
There you go.... :beer:
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John PodhoretzVerified account
@jpodhoretz John Podhoretz Retweeted Mark Halperin
Interesting tweet by @MarkHalperin before speech suggests Manafort planned the last-minute anti-Cruz rave
Levin was on a tear about Manafort today. Doesn't sound like a nice person.
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Manu RajuVerified account
@mkraju
HEIDI CRUZ escorted out by security as crowd gets angry at Cruz for his speech. One Trump supporter shouting "Goldman Sachs!" at her
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Trying to argue with Trumpy morons is worse than arguing with my dog.
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Remember when the Democrats booed God in the pledge of allegiance four years ago?
Obviously this doesn't rise to that level, but Republicans booing the statement to 'Vote for the Constitution' is in some ways, a similar watershed moment.
When the Democrats booed God, it sent a message to Christians (and others of religious faith or who believe in religious freedom and our history) about the party's direction.
Now, when Republicans booed the Constitution, it is sending a similar message to Conservatives about the party's direction.
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Best....speech....ever! I am so proud of Ted Cruz and so proud that he's a Texan and proud to be a Texan tonite. That is one fine statesman right there.
All class. Which is a trait that others can't get next to.
Agree 100%. Cruz is a true statesman.
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We do! We have waves in the Gulf. When I went to high school, the two opposing cliques were the surfers vs. the cowboys. There were hippies too, but not many and we all sort of ignored them.
I just had to laugh! Sounds just like my high school!
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"Trump people are rude and crude. Even the orange baboon upstaged Cruz. Cruz should come out tomorrow and endorse the constitution party."
That's bunk, the Cruzers have been bullies making means pirited personal attacks on others but cry when the website owner told them off. They can get off their high horses, it looks like their campaign got pretty dirty to with all of those mailers that looked official and so on.
Don't let the door hit ya on the way out, loyalty is another thing, Trump won the Evangelical South, people don't want to deal with facts. Cruz was buddy buddy with Trump to for the longest time.
Cry much? :tongue2:
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They don't stand for our values, they stand for the game.
You said it all, AbaraXas, in a single sentence.
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Trying to argue with Trumpy morons is worse than arguing with my dog.
Your dog probably makes more sense........
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Wonder what pill popping drug addict Douche Limblob will say about Cruz? Douche loves Trump, praises him every day.
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No personal attacks, what part of that do you not understand. I'm loyal to the party, if someone wants to say "lesser of two evils" so be it, but I'm loyal.
Cruzers say I'll put you on ignore and you can put me on ignore, no, I'm not a Trump supporter, is your argument so weak, you have to resort to name calling?
I think the website owner has nothing to be ashamed of in addressing the gutteral bullying by the Cruzers, Cruz who was buddy buddy with Trump until the beneficial relationship didn't work.
Oh, now the Cruzers are decrying about class. Aw. Do they have any toilet paper images to post displaying their classiness?
Wow... saying one is a trump supporter is what TomSea considers name calling...well....Yeah LOL.
But it does infer some internal conflict here.
Personally..After The Honorable Teds speech.. I am completely at peace.
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Bill Hemmer
@BillHemmer
BREAKING: Sources with the RNC say @Tedcruz speech was 'classless.' Party officials expected him to congratulate @realDonaldTrump.
Except Cruz did congratulate Trump at the very beginning of the speech.
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That poster reminds me of someone at TOS who has a bad habit of repeatedly posting pics as their sole means of debate.
That poster is cruising the thread with baited hook, trying to get someone to rise to the bait.
In fishing that is called 'trolling'.
Come to think of it, it's called "trolling" on the internet, too.
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Thanks RAT. I thought he had backed out of going to the convention and had not heard a trump endorsement yet.
I'll be very pleased if Rubio doesn't ever endorse Trump.
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I don't hear Trumpsters calling Ted the Olive Skinned Babboon or whatever.
No, the hate from some quarters is the division;
Trump stood up for the police, secured borders, the problem isn't with him, he just ran for the nomination and won.
Trump never mentions freedom, liberty, the Tenth Amendment of any other part of the Constitution. That is because he is all for big government like all liberals.
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Trying to argue with Trumpy morons is worse than arguing with my dog.
Personally I believe this sealed Trump's fate. The Cruz supporters WILL NOT support Trump. I admit to being somewhat on the fence. There is no way in hell I will vote for the man now.
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Trying to argue with Trumpy morons is worse than arguing with my dog.
Then maybe the "Cruzey Morons" per as an example, of the abuse levelled at others on this website by Anti-Trumpers, should go argue with their dogs.
Personal attacks really is one half of what the Cruz supporters do on this website. And here, some were crying about the owner using profanity when the Cruz supporters bread and butter is just insulting others.
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I love Mark Levin so much that it will break my heart if he endorses Trump. He may, in which case I will have to stop listening until after the election. Just don't have the stomach to hear my favorite radio guy telling me to vote for the Crooked Slanderer. We'll see.
Mark Levin was kissing Trump's behind until Trump went after Cruz.
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I love Mark Levin so much that it will break my heart if he endorses Trump. He may, in which case I will have to stop listening until after the election. Just don't have the stomach to hear my favorite radio guy telling me to vote for the Crooked Slanderer. We'll see.
With all of Levin's faults, one thing he has always been is a strong, fierce, rabid supporter of the Constitution. After the vile showing tonight at the booing of it, I have a feeling tomorrow will be explosive.
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Calling for voting your conscious and vote for those who are faithful to the constitution.
People had the nerve to boo that line. WOW! Unbelievable.
The party really is split between populists and Conservatives.
THAT was what I was waiting for him to say and is EXACTLY what I intend to do!
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Wow... saying one is a trump supporter is what TomSea considers name calling...well....Yeah LOL.
But it does infer some internal conflict here.
Personally..After The Honorable Teds speech.. I am completely at peace.
:amen:
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Manu RajuVerified account
@mkraju
HEIDI CRUZ escorted out by security as crowd gets angry at Cruz for his speech. One Trump supporter shouting "Goldman Sachs!" at her
All the while Trump hires that Mnuchin guy, a second-generation Goldman Sachs alumnus.
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Trying to argue with Trumpy morons is worse than arguing with my dog.
I've had it with the thugs.
They and I have nothing in common.
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:beer: :patriot: :patriot: :beer:
America needs Ted Cruz. He is and always will be my first choice for President. I will write him in.
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No personal attacks, what part of that do you not understand. I'm loyal to the party, if someone wants to say "lesser of two evils" so be it, but I'm loyal.
Cruzers say I'll put you on ignore and you can put me on ignore, no, I'm not a Trump supporter, is your argument so weak, you have to resort to name calling?
I think the website owner has nothing to be ashamed of in addressing the gutteral bullying by the Cruzers, Cruz who was buddy buddy with Trump until the beneficial relationship didn't work.
Oh, now the Cruzers are decrying about class. Aw. Do they have any toilet paper images to post displaying their classiness?
Just trying to be helpful. I'm sorry you feel that being called a "Trump Supporter" is a personal attack. :seeya:
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Trying to argue with Trumpy morons is worse than arguing with my dog.
Exactly. Cause, unlike my dog, Trumpy morons aren't very cute when they're chasing their tail. :silly:
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Manu RajuVerified account
@mkraju
HEIDI CRUZ escorted out by security as crowd gets angry at Cruz for his speech. One Trump supporter shouting "Goldman Sachs!" at her
Trump thuggery. Again.
And again.
And again.
Get used to it.
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Little Trump just said his father is running for the parents of special needs children...is this before or after he mocks them in his speeches?
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Mark Levin was kissing Trump's behind until Trump went after Cruz.
I didn't hear it that way as much as he was saying we might have to vote for DT. Today was different; he didn't seem to be supporting voting for DT at all.
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Trying to argue with Trumpy morons is worse than arguing with my dog.
Don't feed the pet troll.
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I love Mark Levin so much that it will break my heart if he endorses Trump. He may, in which case I will have to stop listening until after the election. Just don't have the stomach to hear my favorite radio guy telling me to vote for the Crooked Slanderer. We'll see.
Right, but just because some honorable people make the wrong choice.. is no reason not to cast them out.
That is what trump/NY delegation did.... to them "wrong choice" was not falling on bended knee to kiss El Douches ring.
There is a difference between us and them, that is as defined as between People and progressives.
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Ben Shapiro @benshapiro 8m8 minutes ago
Cruz booed offstage after talking about the importance of principle. Eric Trump, who donated $10,000 to Schumer, followed him.
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Reaganesque @TheReaganWay 1m1 minute ago
.@TedCruz is a badass to walk into the den of dangerous fools and say, Vote Your Conscience.
#RNCinCLE
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More efficient government is a nice idea, but I want less government. I don't need the Federal Government deciding what light bulbs to put in my sockets, where the cattle can water, how much my toilet can flush in one shot, whether I can fill in that low spot in the yard, or even cut down a tree. It's my land, I'll take care of it, just as my ancestors did the land relatives are still on for over 350 years...and still being farmed.
Making construction private above 96th street is less AND more efficient government.
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Just trying to be helpful. I'm sorry you feel that being called a "Trump Supporter" is a personal attack. :seeya:
If it's a lie it is.
I supported Cruz over Trump; but the blood sport here is beyond the pale.
I will be loyal to the party, if this is what people want to say they are not, per whomever the party nominates, Romney or whomever, it should be seen for that.
Yes, pure conservatives who don't get anything done. Reminds me of a Senator.
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OMGosh. They are horrible. They don't even know what they are talking about. All emotion. Hmm.....reminds me of BLM during the Ferguson riots.
They are the same mindless idiots that shout "Hands up, don't shoot". They are either too stupid to know it's a lie or they don't care that it's a lie. They're "Liars For Trump". Liars and thugs.
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Little Trump just said his father is running for the parents of special needs children...is this before or after he mocks them in his speeches?
LOL! Right on!!!
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I've had it with the thugs.
They and I have nothing in common.
I've just added another to my IGNORE list tonight.
This is a great thread with intelligent comments about an incredible speech by Ted Cruz, and this guy comes and vomits all over it with complete nonsense.
They're desperate people..... **nononono*
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A gracious photo op, and an old picture, thousands of slanders ago.
Yes, Cruz was respectful to all the candidates. He is a gentleman who was viciously smeared by Trump and his minions. There is no way his principled would allow him to endorse Trump. It seems that Trump supporters love to make their point with photos instead of intelligent discourse.
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Then maybe the "Cruzey Morons" per as an example, of the abuse levelled at others on this website by Anti-Trumpers, should go argue with their dogs.
Personal attacks really is one half of what the Cruz supporters do on this website. And here, some were crying about the owner using profanity when the Cruz supporters bread and butter is just insulting others.
An observation. All you have done on this thread is to troll for something to whine about. I don't care who you support or don't support, we really don't need that crap. '
Inevitably, troll, you will whine about this comment, too. Have at, cause I really don't care WTF you think.
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America needs Ted Cruz. He is and always will be my first choice for President. I will write him in.
Me too.
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Oh, yeah, Cruz is the conservative, Trump is the liberal, why was Cruz so buddy buddy with Trump for all of that time.
Tom I haven't put one person on ignore up til now. I don't understand your fixation with this that you have to keep spamming us. Yes, Ted is a classy guy that was respectful and cordial to all the other candidates, even Trump. We got it, buddy. Quit spamming us with this nonsense.
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Ted Cruz has empathy and guts! Wonderful speech! Now I need to locate our tissues.
Keep praying to Jesus, patriots! You just never know how things are going to shake out.
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Wonder what pill popping drug addict Douche Limblob will say about Cruz? Douche loves Trump, praises him every day.
Rush and certain other prominent talk show hosts will have to change their schticks to omit the word 'conservative' because this election season has revealed that they could not care less about supporting what are widely considered conservative principles.
Ratings & access they care about most definitely. But not conservatism.
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Bill Hemmer
@BillHemmer
BREAKING: Sources with the RNC say @Tedcruz speech was 'classless.' Party officials expected him to congratulate @realDonaldTrump.
Except Cruz did congratulate Trump at the very beginning of the speech.
Sources say that brilliant speech was "classless?"
Did it not have enough brass and gold plastered all over everything to denote "class?"
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I wish he spoke like this during the primaries. One of Cruz's biggest problems is he spoke like a preacher- speaking at people instead of to them.
Cruz is young.
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Wise advice. I won't cast him out. I'm just saying that I might not be able to listen if he starts telling me to vote for the worm.
I got that from you Rat Patrol... I was using your comment to reach the broader Community. :laugh:
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Zeke MillerVerified account
@ZekeJMiller
Two sources tell me Trump team actively whipped the “boos” at the end of Cruz speech
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Rush and certain other prominent talk show hosts will have to change their schticks to omit the word 'conservative' because this election season has revealed that they could not care less about supporting what are widely considered conservative principles.
Ratings & access they care about most definitely. But not conservatism.
I really used to think that Rush was genuine about conservatism.............. until he fell in love with a leftist.
I'll never listen to him again.
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Cruz gave a great soaring speech. Not endorsing Trump was him standing on principle. He's literally the most compelling political figure on either side.
Maybe this is 1976?
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Wow, the audience is booing this. Thanks for confirming what I saw in the split in the party.
It is about the party game, not the principle.
Thank you for exposing it Cruz.
:soangry:
What I find absolutely disturbing, even though I had the tv muted the entire time, with closed caption on, is that every time I looked up from the thread to read the screen, Eric was going on and on about his dad, how great he is, how wonderful he is, how successful he is, how rich he is, Trump this and Trump that. :banging: I didn't see him mention the Constitution (go figure) and I didn't see anywhere he'd mentioned it's about the people, or infer anything about conservative values . It was as it always is with the Trumps...about THEM. Trump Trump Trump Trump. ***suicide***
I am SO sick of Trump and his entire cabal of rich silver spoon elitist family and groveling friends. 888buttkisser To those who support him, it's not about the country. It's not even about the Party. It's about Trump. The more I see what these tools are saying, the more I see what the people cheer....and what they've booed. :media: It's disgusting. :3:
So glad Cruz is still THE MAN and he's still fighting :bullie pirate: and Thank The Lord above he said what I knew he'd say....vote your conscience!!! :flag:
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I've just added another to my IGNORE list tonight.
This is a great thread with intelligent comments about an incredible speech by Ted Cruz, and this guy comes and vomits all over it with complete nonsense.
They're desperate people..... **nononono*
Well "people" may be a generous assessment of their evolutionary position.
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This is the numb-nuts editor of Trumpbart:
Joel B. Pollak
@joelpollak
That was the single most selfish act in American politics since Aaron Burr aimed at Alexander Hamilton. #RNCinCLE & America leave him behind
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I have huge issues with Newt, but I think he realizes just how BAD people booing "vote your principles" looks to non-Trumpers
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Ted Cruz has empathy and guts! Wonderful speech! Now I need to locate our tissues.
Keep praying to Jesus, patriots! You just never know how things are going to shake out.
Good reminder, Mlizzy.
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A brilliant speech by the man that I am proud to call "my Senator". He pretty much delivered the speech that I had hoped he would deliver.
Thank you Senator Cruz, I will be glad to vote for you again in two years... wherever on the ballot that I find your name! :laugh:
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Whatever you all do, do not look at the 'official' live thread.
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Cruz supporters went one step to far, they can call politicians all the names they want.
We don't see Trump supporters continually demeaning Cruz; so that is what must be class.
But a good number of Cruz supporters have opened up horrendous personal attacks against people; you do that, you'll hear about it back, I've likewise muted those whose sole contribution seems what has just been described if one pulls a Bolobaby or whatever.
Trump won the South by a sizeable margin, he won all around. I see that. I'm loyal to the party, if one wants to go on about lesser of two evils, don't let the door hit ya on the way out.
The WS owner has nothing to apologize for per the abuse of a good number of Cruz supporters, that's the way it is.
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Cruz gave a great soaring speech. Not endorsing Trump was him standing on principle. He's literally the most compelling political figure on either side.
Maybe this is 1976?
Maybe!!
(Too melodramatic for you, Weird....... or are two exclamation points in your acceptable range of emotion? :smokin: )
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Whatever you all do, do not look at the 'official' live thread.
Not if my life depended on it!
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When Trump loses in a landslide to Hillary, Cruz will be looking mighty good while Donald will be yesterday's news.
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Cruz gave a great soaring speech. Not endorsing Trump was him standing on principle. He's literally the most compelling political figure on either side.
Maybe this is 1976?
A lot of the idiots for Trump are saying that Cruz's career is done. They'd be wrong about that too. Cruz is just getting started.
I suspect that the standing ovation and applause Cruz got when he walked on stage is not setting well with them. Look for more hissy fits and meltdowns from them now.
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Personally I believe this sealed Trump's fate. The Cruz supporters WILL NOT support Trump. I admit to being somewhat on the fence. There is no way in hell I will vote for the man now.
Welcome to the club!
I began to have questions about Trump when he came out in support of Planned Parenthood. Everything he's done since then has confirmed that he has no character.
The organized behavior of his supporters tonight just illustrates there is no place for people of character, who believe in concepts such as individual liberty, to stand with them.
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Yep, totally in character! What a low-life creep!
Ted Cruz was AWESOME!! CLASS ACT!
TX should be proud!
I muted Eric Trump.
FWIW , Eric was a B+ and Donald Jr was only an A.
Not TC territory.
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If it's a lie it is.
I supported Cruz over Trump; but the blood sport here is beyond the pale.
I will be loyal to the party, if this is what people want to say they are not, per whomever the party nominates, Romney or whomever, it should be seen for that.
Yes, pure conservatives who don't get anything done. Reminds me of a Senator.
Why? When has the party EVER been loyal to you?
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Zeke MillerVerified account
@ZekeJMiller
Two sources tell me Trump team actively whipped the “boos” at the end of Cruz speech
It was a classic WWF stunt. One wrestler is speaking to a mic as the arch enemy enters the arena whipping te crowd to a frenzy.
Trump is classless bottom feeding scum
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Whatever you all do, do not look at the 'official' live thread.
I won't. I'm not interested in killing off brain cells.
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Stephen Miller @redsteeze 11m11 minutes ago
Talk radio is going to shiv Ted Cruz tomorrow to support a Hillary Clinton donor con man. It's beautiful.
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Cruz gave a great soaring speech. Not endorsing Trump was him standing on principle. He's literally the most compelling political figure on either side.
Maybe this is 1976?
Ted Cruz did endorse trump.
Ted laid out what a Conservative will fight for... now lets see if Trump can live up to the endorsement. And that folks.. is the masterstroke.
It is all upon trump.... to gain the endorsement Ted gave.
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Sources say that brilliant speech was "classless?"
Did it not have enough brass and gold plastered all over everything to denote "class?"
Funny thing about all that brass and gold...it's plate, not solid, and likely over plastic, just like the trinkets on the back bar...
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Cruz supporters went one step to far, they can call politicians all the names they want.
We don't see Trump supporters continually demeaning Cruz; so that is what must be class.
But a good number of Cruz supporters have opened up horrendous personal attacks against people; you do that, you'll hear about it back, I've likewise muted those whose sole contribution seems what has just been described if one pulls a Bolobaby or whatever.
Trump won the South by a sizeable margin, he won all around. I see that. I'm loyal to the party, if one wants to go on about lesser of two evils, don't let the door hit ya on the way out.
The WS owner has nothing to apologize for per the abuse of a good number of Cruz supporters, that's the way it is.
Grow up man! Trump dishonored Cruz's family and that is a kind way to say it. Cruz did the honorable thing!
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TOS and Trump supporters at their best
To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
I hope Cruz is dead before 2020.
65 posted on 7/20/2016, 8:11:46 PM by Palio di Siena
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Little Trump just said his father is running for the parents of special needs children...is this before or after he mocks them in his speeches?
Or his late brother's kid that needed funds because of a terminally ill child ... and he cut them out of the family money.
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Sources say that brilliant speech was "classless?"
Did it not have enough brass and gold plastered all over everything to denote "class?"
Sources! AS usual the unnamed variety!
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Ted Cruz did endorse trump.
Ted laid out what a Conservative will fight for... now lets see if Trump can live up to the endorsement. And that folks.. is the masterstroke.
It is all upon trump.... to gain the endorsement Ted gave.
Eh? I heard Cruz's entire speech. Best speech I've heard from a politician in ages. He did not endorse Trump in any way.
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Why? When has the party EVER been loyal to you?
This guy wants us to unify under a pro-abortion, corrupt, amoral liberal.
That's all I need to know about him.
(And claims he was for Cruz! Now THAT's a laugh and a half!)
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If it's a lie it is.
I supported Cruz over Trump; but the blood sport here is beyond the pale.
I will be loyal to the party, if this is what people want to say they are not, per whomever the party nominates, Romney or whomever, it should be seen for that.
Yes, pure conservatives who don't get anything done. Reminds me of a Senator.
If you advocate voting for Donald Trump, then ipso facto* you are a Trump Supporter.
*ipso facto is a phrase from Latin which means "by that very fact or act".
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It was a classic WWF stunt. One wrestler is speaking to a mic as the arch enemy enters the arena whipping te crowd to a frenzy.
Trump is classless bottom feeding scum
Yeah...trump did that twice today..LOL.
Once with the jet..then what we saw. What a chump/trump.
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Cruz supporters went one step to far, they can call politicians all the names they want.
We don't see Trump supporters continually demeaning Cruz; so that is what must be class.
But a good number of Cruz supporters have opened up horrendous personal attacks against people; you do that, you'll hear about it back, I've likewise muted those whose sole contribution seems what has just been described if one pulls a Bolobaby or whatever.
Trump won the South by a sizeable margin, he won all around. I see that. I'm loyal to the party, if one wants to go on about lesser of two evils, don't let the door hit ya on the way out.
The WS owner has nothing to apologize for per the abuse of a good number of Cruz supporters, that's the way it is.
I'm not sure what you're trying to prove, but if you don't mind getting virtual tomatoes thrown at you, have at it.
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Cruz supporters went one step to far, they can call politicians all the names they want.
We don't see Trump supporters continually demeaning Cruz; so that is what must be class.
:silly: :silly: :silly: Where have you been?
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Oh, yeah, Cruz is the conservative, Trump is the liberal, why was Cruz so buddy buddy with Trump for all of that time.
Coming back with something that you already posted up thread lacks originality. At least wait until tomorrow.
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@L9teen
Trump and his spawn never mention the Constitution - I doubt they are familiar with it. They never mention anything about freedom - which was Cruz's main topic. They want power and to continue big government and use it to punish their enemies. Truly dangerous. I find it sickening how Trump supporters are so in love with his children and want them in positions of power.
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Ben Shapiro @benshapiro 8m8 minutes ago
Cruz booed offstage after talking about the importance of principle. Eric Trump, who donated $10,000 to Schumer, followed him.
I bet you couldn't even hear any booing if you were anywhere near the Texas delegation. Placement of the delegates was a arranged for this very reason.
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I really used to think that Rush was genuine about conservatism.............. until he fell in love with a leftist.
I'll never listen to him again.
I was in the car today when he is on here. Actually TRIED to listen to him! Lasted about 10 minutes. Couldn't stand it anymore!
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Stephen Miller @redsteeze 11m11 minutes ago
Talk radio is going to shiv Ted Cruz tomorrow to support a Hillary Clinton donor con man. It's beautiful.
The talk radio ass clowns will be screaming tomorrow, getting spittle all over their microphones. Can't wait to see how Shamnity and Douche react.
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A brilliant speech by the man that I am proud to call "my Senator". He pretty much delivered the speech that I had hoped he would deliver.
Thank you Senator Cruz, I will be glad to vote for you again in two years... wherever on the ballot that I find your name! :laugh:
The Constitution Party sounds good to me. The Republican Party is over- Uniparty reigns.
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This!
If you take Cruz saying 'vote your values' as not endorsing Trump - you admit Trump does not follow your values. #RorschachTest #RNCinCLE
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It was a classic WWF stunt. One wrestler is speaking to a mic as the arch enemy enters the arena whipping te crowd to a frenzy.
Trump is classless bottom feeding scum
Trump is as real as WWF but with less class.
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A brilliant speech by the man that I am proud to call "my Senator". He pretty much delivered the speech that I had hoped he would deliver.
Thank you Senator Cruz, I will be glad to vote for you again in two years... wherever on the ballot that I find your name! :laugh:
I HEARTILY second that motion!
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Did anyone else get the robocall from Cruz saying that he would be speaking tonight and that, tomorrow, a representative will reach out to them?
I'm sure it's going to be to beg for funding for his Senate campaign, but I'm inclined to give after tonight's performance.
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Why do all of Trump's sons have Gordon Gekko hair?
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I am so proud of Cruz. I think even more of him now than I did before this.
Me too! I'm smilin'! :laugh:
(We picked the right guy, didn't we?? Maybe America DOES have a future....... if we survive four years of Donald or Hillary!)
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Dylan Byers
@DylanByers
From @DanaBashCNN: Some people on donor suite level so angry at @tedcruz they called him disgrace to his face; one man had to be restrained…
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Cruz gave a great soaring speech. Not endorsing Trump was him standing on principle. He's literally the most compelling political figure on either side.
Maybe this is 1976?
Well said! :amen:
I think Sen Cruz runs again in 2020 no matter who wins in 2016. I will always support the person who will stand for specific principles even when all his peers want him to ignore them.
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Ted Cruz ladies and gentlemen.
They clank when he walks. :patriot:
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Sources say that brilliant speech was "classless?"
Did it not have enough brass and gold plastered all over everything to denote "class?"
To those that say Cruz's speech was classless, crass is king. So class would be a foreign concept and indiscernible to them.
Like the MSM only reporting that Cruz was booed, as if that was all there was to his speech. They neglect the almost unanimous standing ovation he received. They lie, as usual...so screw em.
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This!
HA! That is perfect!
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Eh? I heard Cruz's entire speech. Best speech I've heard from a politician in ages. He did not endorse Trump in any way.
I think you took my first sentence, without the last paragraph.
Ted laid out party unity at first , with a clear laying out of what that meant as policy. And yes...Ted drew a clear line in the sand... what it would take to have us vote trump.
Brilliant... not since Marcus Antony defeated Brutus in the square has a speech so resounded so. This time tho ... both logic and reason are sided as one.
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If you take Cruz saying 'vote your values' as not endorsing Trump - you admit Trump does not follow your values. #RorschachTest #RNCinCLE
This!
THAT x10!!!
Haha! Busted Trumpettes! If you take offense, then you know you're voting as a "party b***h."
Enjoy!
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Ben Shapiro @benshapiro 4m4 minutes ago
The Trumpsters just couldn't live with a tacit endorsement. They needed the full Orange Godking obeisance. So they screwed themselves.
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We don't see Trump supporters continually demeaning Cruz; so that is what must be class.
Oh really??
Here's just a few comments about Cruz from the Trump Safe Space Convention Thread:
F**K!NG A$$#OLE!
Cruz is a flim-flam man - only in it for himself.
Cruz pissed off the crowd..... **nononono*
And killed his future political career, assho^^ :chairbang:
And of course Twitter and other fora out there have much worse to offer, such as this gem from TOS:
To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
I hope Cruz is dead before 2020.
65 posted on 7/20/2016, 8:11:46 PM by Palio di Siena
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I find it interesting how blatantly, overtly and ridiculously you Trump fans are willing to lie when the truth is right there for all of us to read and see for ourselves.
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Dylan Byers
@DylanByers
From @DanaBashCNN: Some people on donor suite level so angry at @tedcruz they called him disgrace to his face; one man had to be restrained…
Trumpettes having to be restrained?
You don't say...
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Why do all of Trump's sons have Gordon Gekko hair?
Why do you think? Wasn't Gekko a crook? lol
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I don't hear Trumpsters calling Ted the Olive Skinned Babboon or whatever.
Please don't insult us with your innocence. Trumpsters never insulted Cruz? Please go back to the Real GOP Convention thread where they will believe BS is Skittles.
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Supposedly this is the Trump family after Cruz's speech. From Twitter.
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Personal attacks really is one half of what the Cruz supporters do on this website. And here, some were crying about the owner using profanity when the Cruz supporters bread and butter is just insulting others.
Go back to your closed speech thread. You come here and spread hate. You show a picture of Trump and Cruz. They met ONE time at the very beginning of the political season, and that was it. You say they were friends forever. That is a lie. The truth is not in you.
Everyone here should put this hater Trump suck up on IGNORE.
@CatherineofAragon
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Ted Cruz ladies and gentlemen.
They clank when he walks. :patriot:
^-^
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osh Barro @jbarro 9m9 minutes ago
Worth considering the possibility that Cruz has no grand strategy, and just wants to screw the guy who beat him and insulted his family.
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I think I'll repeat this one again.
If you take Cruz saying 'vote your values' as not endorsing Trump - you admit Trump does not follow your values. #RorschachTest #RNCinCLE
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Trump needs to seal the deal with Cruz.
Cruz is holding out for some kind of commitment to Conservatism that Trump is still unwilling or unable to give.
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After the smear jobs Trump pulled on Cruz's wife and father, Ted has no obligation to be gracious to him. Rather, the opposite is true.
Ain't that the truth
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Did anyone else get the robocall from Cruz saying that he would be speaking tonight and that, tomorrow, a representative will reach out to them?
I'm sure it's going to be to beg for funding for his Senate campaign, but I'm inclined to give after tonight's performance.
No I did not.. and I ...this Simple Bricklayer.... Maxed to Ted in the primaries.
No , what massive e-mail trash I get is from Scam Wowo... trump begging for money.
LOL.
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Trump needs to seal the deal with Cruz.
Cruz is holding out for some kind of commitment to Conservatism that Trump is still unwilling or unable to give.
Trump is a liberal Democrat whose values are completely opposite Reaganism. There is no deal to seal.
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What you all just witnessed was the courage of a statesman who dared to focus on ideas and principles, and not on personality. Moreover, he did so in defiance of a crowd that he had reason to know would turn hostile upon his refusal to finally bend a knee before their prince, who himself could not restrain the impulse to upstage a defeated rival who would not pay him tribute.
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Oh really??
Here's just a few comments about Cruz from the Trump Safe Space Convention Thread:
F**K!NG A$$#OLE!
Cruz is a flim-flam man - only in it for himself.
Cruz pissed off the crowd..... **nononono*
And killed his future political career, assho^^ :chairbang:
And of course Twitter and other fora out there have much worse to offer, such as this gem from TOS:
To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
I hope Cruz is dead before 2020.
65 posted on 7/20/2016, 8:11:46 PM by Palio di Siena
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I find it interesting how blatantly, overtly and ridiculously you Trump fans are willing to lie when the truth is right there for all of us to read and see for ourselves.
They probably don't see it as lying, per se. They have that in common with the radical left. They probably consider it being ....you know.....taqiyyaish. Lying with an exotic flair.
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Supposedly this is the Trump family after Cruz's speech. From Twitter.
LOLOL ~ That is priceless! :silly:
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Allahpundit @allahpundit 3m3 minutes ago
The dumb pro-Trump crowd wouldn’t have made this into such a thing if they’d just politely clapped for Cruz and let it blow over
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Did anyone else get the robocall from Cruz saying that he would be speaking tonight and that, tomorrow, a representative will reach out to them?
I'm sure it's going to be to beg for funding for his Senate campaign, but I'm inclined to give after tonight's performance.
No, I did get an email saying roughly the same thing.
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LOLOL ~ That is priceless! :silly:
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Pence is class, pro-life, has a real record of achievement. Hoosier
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I love Mark Levin so much that it will break my heart if he endorses Trump. He may, in which case I will have to stop listening until after the election. Just don't have the stomach to hear my favorite radio guy telling me to vote for the Crooked Slanderer. We'll see.
Listening to him today, talking to some callers who were saying they were voting for Trump because he's not an insider, or that he's not a poitician, Mark called them stupid and that he doesn't have time to waste on such stupidity and hung up on them. Mark eviscerates Trump at every turn, lambasting WHO Trump is. He even made the simple point that if you are supporting Trump because he's an "outsider", would you also support George Soros, he's an outsider...he's not a politician....
So, I doubt Mark will endorse Trump. Not when he speaks the way he does and calls out people for the very hypocrisy he'd be committing if he did.
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Trump needs to seal the deal with Cruz.
Cruz is holding out for some kind of commitment to Conservatism that Trump is still unwilling or unable to give.
That deal can't be sealed...trump is elite/dem/gope.
Anyone who thinks different is ..well they are going to be as disappointment with.."Make America Great Again"... as the progressives are with.."Hope and Change".
All just Uniparty Unicorn farts.
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7/20/2016, 5:40:27 PM · 52 of 53
Right-wing Librarian to Pinkbell
Right now, I understand DJT has to “unify” the party.
But you can bet, once he has the power, he will put TC down like the rabid dog traitor that he is (no offence to sweet and lovable dogs!).
These people are completely mental and psycho. They desire a dictator and have a visceral hatred for conservatism
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I will be loyal to the party...
****sheep****
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Supposedly this is the Trump family after Cruz's speech. From Twitter.
Yes, that is right after Cruz finished. The Trump family was none too happy. Such a shame, after flying their jet in during Cruz's event this afternoon, and then making their entrance while Cruz was still speaking. They have absolutely no class.
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:silly: :silly: :silly: Where have you been?
Well, we know where his head is. But that's an issue for a proctologist.
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Ben Shapiro @benshapiro 4m4 minutes ago
The Trumpsters just couldn't live with a tacit endorsement. They needed the full Orange Godking obeisance. So they screwed themselves.
Tonight was a watermark of the kind that only comes around once every 30, 40, 50 years.
I do not believe anything will be the same, politically. I know it won't with me.
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Pence is class, pro-life, has a real record of achievement. Hoosier
He flip-flopped on everything else, I have no doubt he'll be praising Planned Parenthood if Trump says so.
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Pence is class, pro-life, has a real record of achievement. Hoosier
Ok, but he is not running as the one who decides what will be.
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Ron Fournier @ron_fournier 7m7 minutes ago
Gee, I hope this guy endorses Trump
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Go back to your closed speech thread. You come here and spread hate. You show a picture of Trump and Cruz. They met ONE time at the very beginning of the political season, and that was it. You say they were friends forever. That is a lie. The truth is not in you.
Everyone here should put this hater Trump suck up on IGNORE.
@CatherineofAragon
The problem with putting trolls on Ignore is.....it kinda kills the point and laugh factor. And I do so enjoy watching their desperation, vitriol and drool. As long as none of the froth gets on me. :silly:
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Yes, that is right after Cruz finished. The Trump family was none too happy. Such a shame, after flying their jet in during Cruz's event this afternoon, and then making their entrance while Cruz was still speaking. They have absolutely no class.
No Class, Orange Trash
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Did Mike Pence borrow Trump's self tanner?
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LOLOL ~ That is priceless! :silly:
Now to me, that is a Donald Trump that knows he just lost.
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Trump supporters were threatening Heidi Cruz, to the point she needed protection leaving.
Bo Snerdley
@BoSnerdley
Ken Cuccinelli told Reuters he escorted Cruz's wife Heidi off convention floor of the Convention in Cleveland out of concern for her safety.
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Yes, that is right after Cruz finished. The Trump family was none too happy. Such a shame, after flying their jet in during Cruz's event this afternoon, and then making their entrance while Cruz was still speaking. They have absolutely no class.
Stolen.. thanx..that says it all.
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Body language.
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The problem with putting trolls on Ignore is.....it kinda kills the point and laugh factor. And I do so enjoy watching their desperation, vitriol and drool. As long as none of the froth gets on me. :silly:
I just use the ignore button in my brain.
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Still a Cruzer!!
@mystery-ak
*High five*
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No Class, Orange Trash
Ted Cruz is a vision of hope given the not-to-distant dismal future.
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Yes, that is right after Cruz finished. The Trump family was none too happy. Such a shame, after flying their jet in during Cruz's event this afternoon, and then making their entrance while Cruz was still speaking. They have absolutely no class.
Wow. Check out the look on Trump Jr's face there. If looks could kill. Looks positively evil. Anti-Christ in training/in the making, perhaps? And he's got that same arrogant, upturned Obama chin pose. Hmmm.....
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Josh Britton ⚾️ @jbritt5 22m22 minutes ago
The chance of Trump spouting off a petulant retort to Cruz tomorrow night is now approximately 1200%. He won't be able to restrain himself.
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I just use the ignore button in my brain.
Yes, but you're a man.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the death of the Republican party.
Heidi Cruz rushed out by security after crowd turns on Ted Cruz
Heidi Cruz, wife of Texas Senator Ted Cruz, was reportedly rushed out of the Republican National Convention on Wednesday night after the crowd turned on her husband at the end of his speech.
Boos rained down on Ted Cruz as he issued a speech calling for people to vote on their "conscience" and declining to officially endorse Donald Trump, despite loud calls for him to do so from the crowd.
A reporter for the Richmond Times-Dispatch quickly posted a video purportedly of Heidi Cruz being escorted out of the Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland, where the convention is being held.
With her is Ken Cuccinelli, the former attorney general of Virginia, who has also been firmly anti-Trump.
Cuccinelli reportedly confirmed to journalists that he helped Heidi Cruz leave the scene after the speech out of concern for her safety.
Other reporters at the convention also said that they saw Heidi Cruz being ushered out amid heckling from the crowd.
Heidi Cruz had been a target of Trump's, including a retweet of a meme that insulted her appearance.
http://mashable.com/2016/07/20/heidi-cruz-escorted-out-of-republican-convention/#4KE_hfQRIaqm
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The problem with putting trolls on Ignore is.....it kinda kills the point and laugh factor. And I do so enjoy watching their desperation, vitriol and drool. As long as none of the froth gets on me. :silly:
I ignore them the old fashioned way.
I talk around them and don't acknowledge them.
Its satisfying to me.
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What you all just witnessed was the courage of a statesman who dared to focus on ideas and principles, and not on personality. Moreover, he did so in defiance of a crowd that he had reason to know would turn hostile upon his refusal to finally bend a knee before their prince, who himself could not restrain the impulse to upstage a defeated rival who would not pay him tribute.
And you know that's gonna bug him to no end. Expect a vile tweet. Maybe another insult or two directed at Cruz's family. NOBODY disrespects The Donald!
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Yes Mike Pence, Trump's children are testament to Trump's skill...at picking nannies
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*ipso facto is a phrase from Latin which means "by that very fact or act".
As opposed to ipso faxo which means "by that very facsimile machine."
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Josh Britton ⚾️ @jbritt5 22m22 minutes ago
The chance of Trump spouting off a petulant retort to Cruz tomorrow night is now approximately 1200%. He won't be able to restrain himself.
Yes Indeed! It is as inevitable as the sun rising in the East!
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What you all just witnessed was the courage of a statesman who dared to focus on ideas and principles, and not on personality. Moreover, he did so in defiance of a crowd that he had reason to know would turn hostile upon his refusal to finally bend a knee before their prince, who himself could not restrain the impulse to upstage a defeated rival who would not pay him tribute.
And that is who we should want as a leader, not a small minded brute with no control over himself.
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I really used to think that Rush was genuine about conservatism.............. until he fell in love with a leftist.
I'll never listen to him again.
Rush used to take a run at the difficult issues during the Clinton Administration, but he'd stop short of the real meat. A poke, but not even a flesh wound. After noticing a few rounds of that jousting, I just relegated him to entertainment, and not so much a serious warrior for Conservatism.
I haven't had any reason to change that assessment, I am sorry to say.
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Grow up man! Trump dishonored Cruz's family and that is a kind way to say it. Cruz did the honorable thing!
The cultural divide has been exposed. Trumpeters can not understand that Trump made it impossible for Cruz to give an endorsement. They were raised differently from the rest of us. I voted for Kasich but gladly would have supported Cruz. He is a decent man and he deserved much better than he was given.
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Ted Cruz did endorse trump.
Ted laid out what a Conservative will fight for... now lets see if Trump can live up to the endorsement. And that folks.. is the masterstroke.
It is all upon trump.... to gain the endorsement Ted gave.
Ted dared Trump to fight for the constitution.
If Trump does , vote Trump. Dont stay home.
Vote UP and down the ticket.....
The brilliance is in the ambiguity.
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I give Cruz a 14 out of a possible 10.
With 4 style points and seven gold leaf clusters.
And sparkles. And stuff.
Remember. Dont stay home in November. And vote UP and down the ticket.
After tonight, you expect people to vote for Trump, lol?
Heidi Cruz had to be escorted out by Ken Cuccinelli because Trump's moronic supporters were screaming at her. He's going to lose, and they can choke on it.
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Pence is class, pro-life, has a real record of achievement. Hoosier
When I was in the service, prostitutes used to use perfume liberally, thinking that it would attract Johns. Trump can spray all the Pence he wants and I will resist temptation.
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Well "people" may be a generous assessment of their evolutionary position.
The gene pool has a shallow end, too.
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I just use the ignore button in my brain.
Right...other times it is just plain fun to sink a claw into them and make 'Em squeal. :smokin:
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The gene pool has a shallow end, too.
There is that. :th_10444:
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Just trying to be helpful. I'm sorry you feel that being called a "Trump Supporter" is a personal attack. :seeya:
Funny how insulted Trump supporters are at being called Trump supporters. It's a mental disorder.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the death of the Republican party.
Doing what our conscience demands is a huge portion of what our constitution protects if not the vast majority.
If you're on a jury and and your conscience tells you to acquit a guilty man, you may do so without repercussion. Voting is an obvious duty of conscience.
These Trumpers are showing their utter abandonment of the most basic constitutional principles.
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Stephen Miller @redsteeze 11m11 minutes ago
Talk radio is going to shiv Ted Cruz tomorrow to support a Hillary Clinton donor con man. It's beautiful.
Good. Every one of those suckers' sponsors will get a letter or e-mail threatening that I will cease using their products if they continue to support such drivel.
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Please quit talking, Mike.
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Josh Britton ⚾️ @jbritt5 22m22 minutes ago
The chance of Trump spouting off a petulant retort to Cruz tomorrow night is now approximately 1200%. He won't be able to restrain himself.
Tomorrow night?
His twitter thumbs will be sore waaaaaay before then.
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And you know that's gonna bug him to no end. Expect a vile tweet. Maybe another insult or two directed at Cruz's family. NOBODY disrespects The Donald!
Absolutely.....he can't help himself! He's just like a mob boss.
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Funny how insulted Trump supporters are at being called Trump supporters. It's a mental disorder.
Its certainly no more or less insulting than being called a Clinton supporter. In a sense they're the same thing.
If you don't vote for Trump you're voting for the woman he's supported for years. :silly:
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Josh Barro @jbarro 4m4 minutes ago Cleveland, OH
If Trump becomes president, we'll start calling Angela Merkel the leader of the free world.
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Ben Shapiro @benshapiro 4m4 minutes ago
The Trumpsters just couldn't live with a tacit endorsement. They needed the full Orange Godking obeisance. So they screwed themselves.
Exactly. Fantom, Newt and I all saw it the same way.
I am in good company.
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Trump thuggery. Again.
And again.
And again.
Get used to it.
I've been saying this since the first time Trump supporters beat a homeless man because he was Hispanic. That was within a month of his announcement.
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Ted dared Trump to fight for the constitution.
If Trump does , vote Trump. Dont stay home.
Vote UP and down the ticket.....
The brilliance is in the ambiguity.
Yes, exactly! It was so beautiful to watch!
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Wow. Check out the look on Trump Jr's face there. If looks could kill. Looks positively evil. Anti-Christ in training/in the making, perhaps? And he's got that same arrogant, upturned Obama chin pose. Hmmm.....
Trump's children may have jobs but they have a monstrous sense of entitlement.
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As opposed to ipso faxo which means "by that very facsimile machine."
Ha! :beer:
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Trump needs to seal the deal with Cruz.
Cruz is holding out for some kind of commitment to Conservatism that Trump is still unwilling or unable to give.
Well said.
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Wow. Check out the look on Trump Jr's face there. If looks could kill. Looks positively evil. Anti-Christ in training/in the making, perhaps? And he's got that same arrogant, upturned Obama chin pose. Hmmm.....
Isn't Scam Wowo Jr still a registered democrat?
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The cultural divide has been exposed. Trumpeters can not understand that Trump made it impossible for Cruz to give an endorsement. They were raised differently from the rest of us. I voted for Kasich but gladly would have supported Cruz. He is a decent man and he deserved much better than he was given.
I voted for Dole, McCain, Romney, even Ford. They weren't my first choice, but I thought they were decent men even if they were wrong on some issues. I knew before the convention I could never vote for Trump and now I've seen how right I was in my assessment of him.
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What you all just witnessed was the courage of a statesman who dared to focus on ideas and principles, and not on personality. Moreover, he did so in defiance of a crowd that he had reason to know would turn hostile upon his refusal to finally bend a knee before their prince, who himself could not restrain the impulse to upstage a defeated rival who would not pay him tribute.
And that, America is the courage, selflessness, and commitment we need in a president.
Not another narcissist.
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When I was in the service, prostitutes used to use perfume liberally, thinking that it would attract Johns. Trump can spray all the Pence he wants and I will resist temptation.
There you go talking down prostitutes....
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Obama ain't got nothin' on Donald Trump. Trump sure loves despots.
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Funny thing about all that brass and gold...it's plate, not solid, and likely over plastic, just like the trinkets on the back bar...
In typical Trump fashion...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQqDPyf9WC8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQqDPyf9WC8)
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Wonder what pill popping drug addict Douche Limblob will say about Cruz? Douche loves Trump, praises him every day.
@Weird Tolkienish Figure
Oh, wow, I hadn't thought about Rush. It's been months and months since I listened to his blathering, but I might have to turn him on tomorrow. Could be funny.
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Meanwhile Ted Cruz is still the top trending subject on twitter. :patriot:
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Isn't Scam Wowo Jr still a registered democrat?
I don't know if he ever registered as a republican, but prior to and during the NY primaries I believe he and Ivanka had no party affiliation.
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Here's more Blame America stuff:
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Isn't Scam Wowo Jr still a registered democrat?
I would bet that his whole family are registered democrats, including Melania (she admires Michelle Obama). The only ones we know for sure of are Ivanka and Eric though.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/donald-trumps-kids-cant-vote-for-their-dad-thats-no-laughing-matter/2016/04/14/5cc603dc-0272-11e6-9203-7b8670959b88_story.html
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If it's a lie it is.
I supported Cruz over Trump; but the blood sport here is beyond the pale.
I will be loyal to the party, if this is what people want to say they are not, per whomever the party nominates, Romney or whomever, it should be seen for that.
Yes, pure conservatives who don't get anything done. Reminds me of a Senator.
If you think Cruz has done nothing, why did you support him over Trump? Makes no sense, does it?
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I don't know if he ever registered as a republican, but prior to and during the NY primaries I believe he and Ivanka had no party affiliation.
Anybody that could donate to Chuck Schumer and Hillary and other rats would have to be either rat-friendly or a rat themselves. JS....
http://www.campaignmoney.com/finance.asp?type=in&cycle=06&criteria=Trump&fname=ivanka
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Funny how insulted Trump supporters are at being called Trump supporters. It's a mental disorder.
Yeah. It's not like they were sports fans and you called them athletic supporters.
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@L9teen
Trump and his spawn never mention the Constitution - I doubt they are familiar with it. They never mention anything about freedom - which was Cruz's main topic. They want power and to continue big government and use it to punish their enemies. Truly dangerous. I find it sickening how Trump supporters are so in love with his children and want them in positions of power.
I've heard them compared to JFK and his family. It is beyond sickening. I pointed out that with JFK, at least he was a Democrat and so was his family. But with Trump, he's pretending to be a Republican and his whole family are still Democrats. And that's just one of the big differences.
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You could have bet that uber liberal establishment RINO Peter King didn't like that one bit.
GOP Congressman Declares Ted Cruz ‘A Total Fraud’
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/20/gop-congressman-declares-ted-cruz-a-total-fraud-video/#ixzz4F0fgyJaI
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Meanwhile Ted Cruz is still the top trending subject on twitter. :patriot:
Trump should be grateful [to Ted]; takes the news off his lying wife, Melania!
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Genuine Corinthian leather! Two Corinthians made it!
Were they traveling in a Cordoba?
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You could have bet that uber liberal establishment RINO Peter King didn't like that one bit.
Peter King should know a LOT about fraud! Afterall he DOES claim to be a republican!
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I would bet that his whole family are registered democrats, including Melania (she admires Michelle Obama). The only ones we know for sure of are Ivanka and Eric though.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/donald-trumps-kids-cant-vote-for-their-dad-thats-no-laughing-matter/2016/04/14/5cc603dc-0272-11e6-9203-7b8670959b88_story.html
Speakin' of Speeches and Images.....
I cannot resist..Found at http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/ (http://content.screencast.com/users/Fantomou/folders/Jing/media/376370d3-b01c-43b3-be18-c4470b22193d/00000295.png)
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TOS and Trump supporters at their best
To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
I hope Cruz is dead before 2020.
65 posted on 7/20/2016, 8:11:46 PM by Palio di Siena
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Sick, evil bastards who've become crazed from hate. Look at the effect Trump has on people.
May God visit justice on them.
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I thought I couldn't get more disgusted. Freepers cheering and happy Heidi Cruz was threatened.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3451331/posts
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There you go talking down prostitutes....
I was younger then and didn't have the willpower I have now. And if the pills were orange instead of blue I might...............................................
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Ted dared Trump to fight for the constitution.
If Trump does , vote Trump. Dont stay home.
Vote UP and down the ticket.....
The brilliance is in the ambiguity.
:beer:
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Under "sore winner" in my 4 year old's picture dictionary.
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Obama ain't got nothin' on Donald Trump. Trump sure loves despots.
Trump probably thinks Erdogan is doing an awesome job and he wishes he could do what that tyrant has done
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Ted Cruz ladies and gentlemen.
They clank when he walks. :patriot:
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Ted Cruz ladies and gentlemen.
They clank when he walks. :patriot:
LOL
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That guy ought to thank the explosives expert that rigged the charges... Bud Budgie!
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They are crazy and their kooky
They're altogether ookie
They are the Trump fam-il-y
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Cruz supporters went one step to far, they can call politicians all the names they want.
We don't see Trump supporters continually demeaning Cruz; so that is what must be class.
But a good number of Cruz supporters have opened up horrendous personal attacks against people; you do that, you'll hear about it back, I've likewise muted those whose sole contribution seems what has just been described if one pulls a Bolobaby or whatever.
Trump won the South by a sizeable margin, he won all around. I see that. I'm loyal to the party, if one wants to go on about lesser of two evils, don't let the door hit ya on the way out.
The WS owner has nothing to apologize for per the abuse of a good number of Cruz supporters, that's the way it is.
Funniest post of the night coming from a trumpster.
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I don't know if he ever registered as a republican, but prior to and during the NY primaries I believe he and Ivanka had no party affiliation.
Right ... clue number one. Your own son and daughter you trot out, cannot vote for you.... something about ...how they are raised comes to mind here.
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Yikes! No tongue?!
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Cruz supporters went one step to far, they can call politicians all the names they want.
We don't see Trump supporters continually demeaning Cruz; so that is what must be class.
But a good number of Cruz supporters have opened up horrendous personal attacks against people; you do that, you'll hear about it back, I've likewise muted those whose sole contribution seems what has just been described if one pulls a Bolobaby or whatever.
Trump won the South by a sizeable margin, he won all around. I see that. I'm loyal to the party, if one wants to go on about lesser of two evils, don't let the door hit ya on the way out.
The WS owner has nothing to apologize for per the abuse of a good number of Cruz supporters, that's the way it is.
And you typed that with a straight face? :smokin:
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Well I'm whooped.
I'm going to go to bed with visions of cannon balls dancing and clanking in my head.
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Il bacio della morte.
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Meanwhile Ted Cruz is still the top trending subject on twitter. :patriot:
I meant to check that but I forgot! Thanks, CC. I love it.
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Funniest post of the night coming from a trumpster.
Wow, that is so far from the truth it is sad.
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A freeper just posted this on FB in response to 'getting rid of Cruz'. Let this sink in for a moment.
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Yes, that is right after Cruz finished. The Trump family was none too happy. Such a shame, after flying their jet in during Cruz's event this afternoon, and then making their entrance while Cruz was still speaking. They have absolutely no class.
The flyover Cruz' rally today was actually hilarious and perfectly timed. Just as Ted mentioned they had found their nominee....here comes Trumps jet and the crowd BOOED.... :silly:
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Didn't Myst tell you to stay off this thread with your provocations and gloating? :nono:
They will be dancing on the other thread, the strange thing is they will dancing to music that only they can hear..............not there is anything wrong with that :whistle:
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Pete Schroeder @peteschroeder 48m48 minutes ago
Roger Stone, walking out of convention center, tells me Ted Cruz is a "dumb son of a bitch who thinks he's smarter than everybody else."
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I certainly plan to
vote for candidates up and down the ticket who you trust to defend our freedom and to be faithful to the Constitution.
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Right ... clue number one. Your own son and daughter you trot out, cannot vote for you.... something about ...how they are raised comes to mind here.
Yeah, there was a bunch of nonsense from the Trump supporters about how the process to change party affiliation took too long in NY for the kids to change to republican in time to vote in the primary, but if you look at the actual facts of the matter it's a bunch of nonsense. There was plenty of time, several weeks if I recall correctly. A minor example of explaining away um, questionable behavior.
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Robert P. George @McCormickProf 1h1 hour ago
Ted has never been afraid to enter a hostile environment and speak his mind. He was like that even as an undergrad. He can't be intimidated
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Pete Schroeder @peteschroeder 48m48 minutes ago
Roger Stone, walking out of convention center, tells me Ted Cruz is a "dumb son of a bitch who thinks he's smarter than everybody else."
He doesn't think he is smarter than everyone else, he just knows he is smarter than Roger Stone- but that isn't much of a stretch, Stone is on the sub 100 of the chart.
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Erick Erickson @EWErickson 2h2 hours ago
SOURCE: RNC threatened negative stories against Cruz if he refused to endorse.
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Funniest post of the night coming from a trumpster.
I used to think liberalism was a mental disease. I'm now think Trumpism affects the same part of the brain. Reality is a fleeting concept.
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Terrific thread. Thank you.
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Erick Erickson @EWErickson 2h2 hours ago
Dear GOP, you could have this guy. Instead you went with Cheeto Jesus who is going to get eaten alive by Yes We Canckle.
LMAO!
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Terrific thread. Thank you.
I agree with Lando.....wonderful thread. It was a historical night that I'll not soon forget.
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LOL, Donald said he loved Cruz's speech. The fanbase is confused how they are allowed to feel and awaiting updated talking points.
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Pete Schroeder @peteschroeder 48m48 minutes ago
Roger Stone, walking out of convention center, tells me Ted Cruz is a "dumb son of a bitch who thinks he's smarter than everybody else."
Ted has Roger beat in intelligence, then again so does Ted's socks
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I certainly plan to
vote for candidates up and down the ticket who you trust to defend our freedom and to be faithful to the Constitution.
That goes without saying. Why would anyone in that convention hall have a problem with that? Oh. Right.
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Donald J. TrumpVerified account
@realDonaldTrump
Wow, Ted Cruz got booed off the stage, didn't honor the pledge! I saw his speech two hours early but let him speak anyway. No big deal!
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Zeke MillerVerified account
@ZekeJMiller
Two sources tell me Trump team actively whipped the “boos” at the end of Cruz speech
A-HOLES!
But how pitiful that the delegates go along with it like mindless sheep!
God Bless Cruz for his class, integrity, bravery, and honor!
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He doesn't think he is smarter than everyone else, he just knows he is smarter than Roger Stone- but that isn't much of a stretch, Stone is on the sub 100 of the chart.
A jar of mayonnaise is smarter than Roger Stone...AND the morons who were braying in the arena tonight.
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Donald J. TrumpVerified account
@realDonaldTrump
Wow, Ted Cruz got booed off the stage, didn't honor the pledge! I saw his speech two hours early but let him speak anyway. No big deal!
They don't need our votes, remember?
And aren't getting mine, either!
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Sean Davis @seanmdav 7m7 minutes ago
Since the RNC will probably lie and say Cruz changed his speech, this is the text the RNC sent out at 8:21p.m.
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Donald J. TrumpVerified account
@realDonaldTrump
Wow, Ted Cruz got booed off the stage, didn't honor the pledge! I saw his speech two hours early but let him speak anyway. No big deal!
It took the man-child a whole hour & a half to get to a computer.
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I agree with Lando.....wonderful thread. It was a historical night that I'll not soon forget.
@Lando Lincoln
@sinkspur
Agreed...thanks to Sink for putting it together. It's been a party.
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A-HOLES!
But how pitiful than the delegates go along with it like mindless sheep!
God Bless Cruz for his class, integrity, bravery, and honor!
Earlier today there was a tweet or something that the Cruz supporting delegates were not being granted access to the arena for Cruz speech. I'm not sure if that actually was the case, but the seating setup had the Duke l'Orange's finest sitting nearest the stage.
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Donald J. TrumpVerified account
@realDonaldTrump
Wow, Ted Cruz got booed off the stage, didn't honor the pledge! I saw his speech two hours early but let him speak anyway. No big deal!
Some interesting commentary on that tweet:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/755972015249645568
Here's a tweet the Donald deleted [lol]:
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Well I'm tempted to say that the RNC Convention ended for me with Ted Cruz's speech (it would be a good spot to end it...) but I guess that I'll watch the thread tomorrow to see what kind of train wreck might occur... :pondering:
Have a good night everyone, and thanks for the great live thread! :seeya:
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It took the man-child a whole hour & a half to get to a computer.
You'd think with those little fingers he'd be able to use a smartphone.
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Seig Heil!
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A twist on another image we are not allowed to post.
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Seig Heil!
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What is the context of this photo?
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You'd think with those little fingers he'd be able to use a smartphone.
Ha.
Someone said he already deleted the tweet. After all this time the man-child has't learned a damn thing.
God save America we are in a heckuva mess.
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Some interesting commentary on that tweet:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/755972015249645568
Here's a tweet the Donald deleted [lol]:
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Let him speak anyway, after inviting him to speak.
"I'm gonna give him one more chance. One more chance to kneel before me. And if he doesn't, I'll go straight to tweeter and make fun of him for it!"
Whaddamaroon.
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My question is this...why would the Trumpaholics want Cruz's endorsement? After all, they think he's a liar, the devil, an adulter, son of JFK's assassian, a globalist, and in general simply vile. Logic?
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Erick Erickson @EWErickson 2h2 hours ago
SOURCE: RNC threatened negative stories against Cruz if he refused to endorse.
Well, isn't that interesting. For someone who lost the election and is a "loser", why would the RNC give a rats patooty who he endorses, let alone start attacking him after the fact? I wonder what they fear? :whistle:
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Donald J. TrumpVerified account
@realDonaldTrump
Wow, Ted Cruz got booed off the stage, didn't honor the pledge! I saw his speech two hours early but let him speak anyway. No big deal!
I guess Trump doesn't feel like he's part of the up and down ticket that will defend the Constitution. This is probably where I go into the #NeverTrump category. Cruz attempted to hold Trump's feet to the conservative fire. Trump and his minions don't want that. To me this indicates that neither Trump nor his supporters are interested in conservative values.
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My little heart broke the way Ted and Heidi were treated tonight. I almost feel this country doesn't deserve them and those of us who believe should go Galt.
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So two days ago Cruz told Trump there would be no endorsement. Trump cleared Ted's speech...and orchestrated boos against him anyway.
Matt Flegenheimer @mattfleg 42m42 minutes ago
Reminders: Cruz delivered the speech as written and told Trump what was coming himself two days ago, per top aide.
Mark Murray @mmurraypolitics 49m49 minutes ago
Once again, Cruz didn't deviate from the embargoed remarks organizers released before speech -- knew it was coming
Ben Shapiro @benshapiro 29m29 minutes ago
If you clear a speech, you shouldn't whine about it afterward.
Ben Shapiro @benshapiro 25m25 minutes ago
Team Trump knew in advance. They would rather boo Cruz to humiliate him one last time than take a partial win. Vindictive and stupid.
Ben Shapiro @benshapiro 14m14 minutes ago
This isn't about Cruz. It's about the fact that the Trump team is a clown car filled with angry Pennywise sociopaths.
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Erick Erickson @EWErickson 2h2 hours ago
Dear GOP, you could have this guy. Instead you went with Cheeto Jesus who is going to get eaten alive by Yes We Canckle.
LMAO!
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My question is this...why would the Trumpaholics want Cruz's endorsement? After all, they think he's a liar, the devil, an adulter, son of JFK's assassian, a globalist, and in general simply vile. Logic?
You need the Trumpster's secret decoder ring to understand it.
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My little heart broke the way Ted and Heidi were treated tonight. I almost feel this country doesn't deserve them and those of us who believe should go Galt.
Freya, don't let it bother you. friend. Ted Cruz doesn't get intimidated. This kind of crap rolls right off him and he glides on by, unfazed.
He's looking ahead to 2020. In November, when the oafish nominee crashes and burns, Ted's going to be the leader of a movement.
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:happyhappy:
He won the internet, lol.
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You need the Trumpster's secret decoder ring to understand it.
How about a little orphan Annie decoder ring like in "A Christmas Story". Instead of saying "drink ovaltine" it says "Vote Trump"
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Ben Shapiro @benshapiro 14m14 minutes ago
This isn't about Cruz. It's about the fact that the Trump team is a clown car filled with angry Pennywise sociopaths.
I can't quit giggling over that one!
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My question is this...why would the Trumpaholics want Cruz's endorsement? After all, they think he's a liar, the devil, an adulter, son of JFK's assassian, a globalist, and in general simply vile. Logic?
I posted on another thread that if he went on stage and sang the praises of the Donald, and then said, "But he says I am a pathological liar.", would their heads explode?
They don't need no steenking logic, they are blinded by the spray tan!
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Let him speak anyway, after inviting him to speak.
"I'm gonna give him one more chance. One more chance to kneel before me. And if he doesn't, I'll go straight to tweeter and make fun of him for it!"
Whaddamaroon.
That tweet is still on his feed, I'm reading the responses to it now. A lot of people are pretty dang witty...
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Freya, don't let it bother you. friend. Ted Cruz doesn't get intimidated. This kind of crap rolls right off him and he glides on by, unfazed.
He's looking ahead to 2020. In November, when the oafish nominee crashes and burns, Ted's going to be the leader of a movement.
@CatherineofAragon you should see the comments on the news web pages about Sen Cruz. I've never seen such vile things said in my life. People really are drinking the koolade and Loving Donald like he is our Saviour.
I think IMHO start reading Gibbons now. Between O, Donald and Hillary, this great country is going to fall for all the exact reasons Rome did. We didn't learn anything from history. We need a man or woman with the values and intelligence of Sen Cruz.
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Not if my life depended on it!
Are the zombies over there furious that Ted Cruz remained honorable and did not endorse the evil one.
He gave a great speech though and did urge people to vote ... I may just write in Ted Cruz.
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@CatherineofAragon you should see the comments on the news web pages about Sen Cruz. I've never seen such vile things said in my life. People really are drinking the koolade and Loving Donald like he is our Saviour.
I think IMHO start reading Gibbons now. Between O, Donald and Hillary, this great country is going to fall for all the exact reasons Rome did. We didn't learn anything from history. We need a man or woman with the values and intelligence of Sen Cruz.
Hope and change 2.0, no matter how you go.
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Let him speak anyway, after inviting him to speak.
"I'm gonna give him one more chance. One more chance to kneel before me. And if he doesn't, I'll go straight to tweeter and make fun of him for it!"
Whaddamaroon.
@realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump) You do know you said this in March, right?
https://twitter.com/TrumpinTheShark/status/755972276038856706 (https://twitter.com/TrumpinTheShark/status/755972276038856706)
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It took the man-child a whole hour & a half to get to a computer.
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They don't need our votes, remember?
And aren't getting mine, either!
Trump 'let him speak'... what a guy. He probably thought Ted Cruz would cave. Not happenin', baby.
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Tonight was a watermark of the kind that only comes around once every 30, 40, 50 years.
I do not believe anything will be the same, politically. I know it won't with me.
I'm seriously considering leaving the Republican Party completely after tonight and changing my registration to independent. Thing is, I won't be able to vote in the primary in my state if I do that. I am SO DISGUSTED with the GOP right now though.
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He won the internet, lol.
I officially went #NeverTrump tonight after Trump's tweet about Cruz not honoring his pledge. He could have said that he was the guy Cruz was talking about in his speech. Gingrich tried to do that for him. Trump can't do it.
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Donor suite? I thought Trump didn't need donors and would be finding his own campaign.
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He won the internet, lol.
Actually, I think Ted Cruz is STILL winning the internet...Cruz is STILL trending on top....
Worldwide Trends
Ted Cruz
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Well, isn't that interesting. For someone who lost the election and is a "loser", why would the RNC give a rats patooty who he endorses, let alone start attacking him after the fact? I wonder what they fear? :whistle:
Because they're petty anal orifices and they despise Cruz so much they'll do anything to humiliate him.
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I'm seriously considering leaving the Republican Party completely after tonight and changing my registration to independent. Thing is, I won't be able to vote in the primary in my state if I do that. I am SO DISGUSTED with the GOP right now though.
I've waited until Trump was the official nominee. Now that I and the Republican party have little in common anymore I'm changing to independent. And that's after being a Republican for 36 years and never missing an election.
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Think we should start a poll on whom Trump will plagiarize tomorrow night: Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Barak Obama, or Mother Theresa...
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I'm seriously considering leaving the Republican Party completely after tonight and changing my registration to independent. Thing is, I won't be able to vote in the primary in my state if I do that. I am SO DISGUSTED with the GOP right now though.
Disappointed in Trump for putting out that tweet about Cruz.
Took Cruz's implied endorsement way too hard, especially with Newt's commentary.
Still will vote for Trump. After all, as a realist, I expect this stuff from Trump.
Just watched Ingraham's speech. She is silly, I remember on her show, she claimed Cruz was losing his leverage to become Trump's VP.
And yet...
There she is, DEMANDING that Cruz endorse at the convention-- which he still could explicitly.
Guess Cruz has a little more leverage than the 'conservative media complex' wanted to admit.
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I can't quit giggling over that one!
Lol, I know, right? Pretty apt...
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The election is 109 days away, and Trump is still bashing Ted Cruz.
Bashing Democrats? Not so much.
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We Can #StopTrump
@Trump_Truther 4m4 minutes ago
Did you notice how the crowd knew instantly that Ted Cruz's "#VoteYourConscience (https://twitter.com/hashtag/VoteYourConscience?src=hash)" meant "vote against Trump?" Why do you suppose that is?
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We Can #StopTrump @Trump_Truther 4m4 minutes ago
Did you notice how the crowd knew instantly that Ted Cruz's "#VoteYourConscience (https://twitter.com/hashtag/VoteYourConscience?src=hash)" meant "vote against Trump?" Why do you suppose that is?
Oh, it was very, very, very telling of a night. A lot of things were exposed to the light.
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I officially went #NeverTrump tonight after Trump's tweet about Cruz not honoring his pledge. He could have said that he was the guy Cruz was talking about in his speech. Gingrich tried to do that for him. Trump can't do it.
Trump continues to disappoint. I keep searching for a sign that he is ready to become an adult and step into a role of leadership, but the days continue to pass with unforced error after unforced error.
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Jay Cost
@JayCostTWS 30m30 minutes ago
"Vote your conscience," says Ted Cruz. Five days ago, @Reince (https://twitter.com/Reince)'s RNC stooges told Mike Lee to STFU over a conscience clause. Get it?
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@CatherineofAragon you should see the comments on the news web pages about Sen Cruz. I've never seen such vile things said in my life. People really are drinking the koolade and Loving Donald like he is our Saviour.
I think IMHO start reading Gibbons now. Between O, Donald and Hillary, this great country is going to fall for all the exact reasons Rome did. We didn't learn anything from history. We need a man or woman with the values and intelligence of Sen Cruz.
The other day I was half-listening to Beck, who was outlining how similar our situation is to Rome's before it fell. I could use something really big and deep to get into, bookwise, right now. I just might take that recommendation.
If you want some sane news commentary, try Steve Deace/Ben Shapiro/John Podhoretz/Jonah Goldberg/Erick Erickson on twitter.
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Oh, it was very, very, very telling of a night. A lot of things were exposed to the light.
And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”
-Jesus-
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Sean Davis Verified account
@seanmdav 41m41 minutes ago
If Donald Trump is so great at making incredible deals, why did he let Ted Cruz on that stage? Why did he beg Ted Cruz to give a speech?
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Think we should start a poll on whom Trump will plagiarize tomorrow night: Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, Barak Obama, or Mother Theresa...
Josef Stalin or Benito Mussolini?
Or will it be excerpts from his favorite bedside table book, My Struggle?
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Another picture for the Worship Trump Thread
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What is the context of this photo?
Looks like Trump is 'Heiling' himself there.
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Another picture for the Worship Trump Thread
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Lol, if they understood the context of the image that was photoshopped from, they would realise they were being trolled with it.
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I'm arguing with a Trump supporter on Facebook. I guess I'm winning because he pinged like 6 people in the group to the discussion. Either that or I'm getting booted from the group. I got booted from George Takei's group the other day. I can't deal with it when people are wrong on the Internet.
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Looks like Trump is 'Heiling' himself there.
The RNC really has been a circus---and the animals have had the keys.
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Yeah, there was a bunch of nonsense from the Trump supporters about how the process to change party affiliation took too long in NY for the kids to change to republican in time to vote in the primary, but if you look at the actual facts of the matter it's a bunch of nonsense. There was plenty of time, several weeks if I recall correctly.
Four months from his official announcement. But I am sure his kids knew long before the official announcement that their dad was going to run.
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TRUMP: WE HAVE A MESSGE
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:silly: :silly: I didn't notice this until someone on Twitter pointed it out, but they asked Trump what "honer" is...and does it rhyme with Boner?
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Donaldus Minimus and Hilarious Rodent Clinton share a campaign theme song . . .
Groucho Marx, "These Are the Laws of My Administration" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSsUoxlSADk)
No one's allowed to smoke
Or tell a dirty joke
And whistling is forbidden
(Hail, hail Freedonia!)
If chewing gum is chewed
The chewer is pursued
And in the hoosegow hidden
If any form of pleasure is exhibited
Report to me and it will be prohibited
I'll put my foot down, so shall it be
This is the land of the free
The last man nearly ruined this place
He didn't know what to do with it
If you think this country's bad off now,
Just wait 'til I get through with it
The country's taxes must be fixed
And I know what to do with it
If you think you're paying too much now
Just wait till I get through with it
I will not stand for anything that's crooked or unfair
I'm strictly on the up-and-up, so everyone beware
If any man's caught taking graft, and I don't get my share
We stand him up against the wall and pop! goes the weasel
If any man should come between a husband and his bride
We'll find out which one she prefers by letting her decide
If she prefers the other man, the husband steps outside
We stand him up against the wall and pop! goes the weasel
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Ben Shapiro
@benshapiro 1m1 minute ago
EXCLUSIVE: Cruz Camp: Trump Campaign Approved Speech, 'Orchestrated' RNC Blowback
http://www.dailywire.com/news/7665/exclusive-cruz-camp-trump-campaign-approved-speech-ben-shapiro?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_content=news&utm_campaign=twitterbenshapiro …
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Four months from his official announcement. But I am sure his kids knew long before the official announcement that their dad was going to run.
I stand corrected. Several MONTHS.
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Well seems either I prepared a comment and didn't get to post or the moderator deleted it quickly.
But here's a comment I posted on the adult topic about the convention.
I had some work I had to do with Photos on Photoshop for my church and a cancer fundraiser so wasn't able to follow this thread until after I finished. I was able to hear most of the speeches either in person or after I recoded them.
I am impressed with the convention, have been impressed with Donald Trump for some time and with how the moderators won't let the disrupters to ruin this thread.
I also intend to run through the alternate thread but don't have positive expectations. So far I see that crowd as a bunch of whiney cry babies. I hope this comment doesn't get me chastised as it's not intended for one person but a crowd of people who seem to practice group think.
42 pages of bitching and whining is unbelievable and I imagine this post disappears also.
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Trump continues to disappoint. I keep searching for a sign that he is ready to become an adult and step into a role of leadership, but the days continue to pass with unforced error after unforced error.
I was searching for the same thing. You go after a guy calling him "Lyin Ted". You go after his wife. You go after his father. You expect him to honor some pledge that happened before all of this? Will you be one of my groomsman if I decide to get married?
Sure.
Your wife is a slut.
You are a liar.
Your father is a murderer.
Are you going to honor my request to be my groomsman?
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The election is 109 days away, and Trump is still bashing Ted Cruz.
Bashing Democrats? Not so much.
Has he ever? All he has done his entire campaign is bash Republicans. He reserved his most hateful attacks for conservative Republicans.
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Well seems either I prepared a comment and didn't get to post or the moderator deleted it quickly.
But here's a comment I posted on the adult topic about the convention.
I had some work I had to do with Photos on Photoshop for my church and a cancer fundraiser so wasn't able to follow this thread until after I finished. I was able to hear most of the speeches either in person or after I recoded them.
I am impressed with the convention, have been impressed with Donald Trump for some time and with how the moderators won't let the disrupters to ruin this thread.
I also intend to run through the alternate thread but don't have positive expectations. So far I see that crowd as a bunch of whiney cry babies. I hope this comment doesn't get me chastised as it's not intended for one person but a crowd of people who seem to practice group think.
42 pages of bitching and whining is unbelievable and I imagine this post disappears also.
This 'bitching and whining' thread as you call it is the open thread where people are free to discuss their opinions like adults even if we disagree. We aren't afraid of dissent nor are we 'triggered' and we don't need safe spaces. The other thread is the think happy thoughts only thread that I bet you meant to post this comment on.... Oops.
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Have to say, this guy nails it...
Alex Bailey @alexconserv 35m35 minutes ago
@SteveDeaceShow (https://twitter.com/SteveDeaceShow) Trump supporters saying others are classless with a straight face need to go back to eating lead paint.
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CJ
@cevanj 2h2 hours ago
@seanmdav (https://twitter.com/seanmdav) @johnddavidson (https://twitter.com/johnddavidson) The GOP is dead. This convention proves that. Ted Cruz just stuck a fork in a dying party with no regrets. Kudos.
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I officially went #NeverTrump tonight after Trump's tweet about Cruz not honoring his pledge. He could have said that he was the guy Cruz was talking about in his speech. Gingrich tried to do that for him. Trump can't do it.
If there is a chance to be petty, Trump will jump on it.
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This 'bitching and whining' thread as you call it is the open thread where people are free to discuss their opinions like adults even if we disagree. We aren't afraid of dissent nor are we 'triggered' and we don't need safe spaces. The other thread is the think happy thoughts only thread that I bet you meant to post this comment on.... Oops.
Where the hell is the thread that I can force my opinions and attack other posters like an angry insult comic?
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Trump makes his grand entrance during Cruz's speech and cameras pull away to Trump.
Stay classy, Trump. /extreme sarcasm
When Clinton was in office I thought no one could be as vain and always on camera, then Lord Foul was elected and proved me wrong, Trump will be Moby Dick in compared to obama's minnow!
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Where the hell is the thread that I can force my opinions and attack other posters like an angry insult comic?
You can abuse us, Frank. We have built up an immunity to it, though. :tongue2:
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Lol, if they understood the context of the image that was photoshopped from, they would realise they were being trolled with it.
Looking at it all I could think of was darkness.
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And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”
-Jesus-
Yes.
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:silly: :silly: I didn't notice this until someone on Twitter pointed it out, but they asked Trump what "honer" is...and does it rhyme with Boner?
The reason that Trump can't spell honor is simple, he has absolutely no experience with the word! I wonder if Jr. will tweet out that Cruz is now finished, his career over, because he didn't bend knee in fealty. All those who were disgusted by eight years of a Lord Foul Monarchy seem to be just fine in accepting someone who acts even more like a king.
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And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”
-Jesus-
Amen
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Freya, don't let it bother you. friend. Ted Cruz doesn't get intimidated. This kind of crap rolls right off him and he glides on by, unfazed.
He's looking ahead to 2020. In November, when the oafish nominee crashes and burns, Ted's going to be the leader of a movement.
Thanks, Catherine. I was feeling with Freya also. So disgusted by that bunch. What a bunch of deluded morons.
And Trump.... he can't even spell HONOR. Cruz personifies it.
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Well seems either I prepared a comment and didn't get to post or the moderator deleted it quickly.
But here's a comment I posted on the adult topic about the convention.
I had some work I had to do with Photos on Photoshop for my church and a cancer fundraiser so wasn't able to follow this thread until after I finished. I was able to hear most of the speeches either in person or after I recoded them.
I am impressed with the convention, have been impressed with Donald Trump for some time and with how the moderators won't let the disrupters to ruin this thread.
I also intend to run through the alternate thread but don't have positive expectations. So far I see that crowd as a bunch of whiney cry babies. I hope this comment doesn't get me chastised as it's not intended for one person but a crowd of people who seem to practice group think.
42 pages of bitching and whining is unbelievable and I imagine this post disappears also.
Trump supporters are the absolute MASTERS of bullshitte and projection and assert all kinds of facts that are never so.
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I am impressed with the convention, have been impressed with Donald Trump for some time and with how the moderators won't let the disrupters to ruin this thread.
Another cheeto worshiper it sounds like. I'll just add to my ignore list. It is attitudes like this that split the party and allowed the vulgar porn wing to win the nomination.
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So proud of Cruz tonight. He did everything he set out to do. First and foremost like Cruz promised earlier, he was God first, Family second, and party third.
He honored God in how he handled himself tonight. He defended his family by not endorsing Trump who unjustly attacked his family (and Cruz). He was humble in pointing out the things he and Trump held in common like Trump's pledge to building a wall and vetting immigrants better. That was a compliment to Trump that was NOT forced.
Like I said, so very proud of my Cruz tonight. He stands 10 feet tall to me now.
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So proud of Cruz tonight. He did everything he set out to do. First and foremost like Cruz promised earlier, he was God first, Family second, and party third.
Ted Cruz isn't malleable
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I'm proud to say that Ted Cruz was the first (and so far only) political candidate I have ever given a donation. Cruz 2020!
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I'm proud to say that Ted Cruz was the first candidate (and so far only) political candidate I have ever given a donation. Cruz 2020!
You have shown great judgement.
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Soooo...Mrs. Trump has always liked Michelle Obama. That should set off even more red flags about this liberal NYC-bred family...
That was my take as well. Doesn't seem to matter to Trump supporters though. He's gonna build a wall.
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Received an email from a friend that I heretofor thought had some sense that was ranting about Ted's "Me! Me! Me! It's all about ME!" speech.
These people have lost all contact with reality
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Ben Shapiro @benshapiro 8m8 minutes ago
Cruz booed offstage after talking about the importance of principle. Eric Trump, who donated $10,000 to Schumer, followed him.
Priceless
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I will be loyal to the party, if this is what people want to say they are not, per whomever the party nominates, Romney or whomever, it should be seen for that.
The Party is not loyal to you. The Rule committee just voted to give even more power to the RNC Chairman at the expense of the grass roots. Take a guess which side Trump delegates sided with.
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Priceless
:thumbsup3:
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We don't see Trump supporters continually demeaning Cruz; so that is what must be class.
Put down the lighter and step away from the crack pipe NOW!
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Ted Cruz did endorse trump.
Ted laid out what a Conservative will fight for... now lets see if Trump can live up to the endorsement. And that folks.. is the masterstroke.
It is all upon trump.... to gain the endorsement Ted gave.
Correctamundo!
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Ted Cruz isn't malleable
Iron Ted
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Have to say, this guy nails it...
Alex Bailey @alexconserv 35m35 minutes ago
@SteveDeaceShow (https://twitter.com/SteveDeaceShow) Trump supporters saying others are classless with a straight face need to go back to eating lead paint.
Steve Deace is turning out to be a national treasure all by himself. :silly:
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NeverTrump Now More Than Ever
David French - National Review
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,216761.0.html
(Kind of surprised NR hasn't caved, I guess they got tired of trying to appeal to moderates and RINO's and losing their shirts)
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#VoteYourConscience is a top trend this morning on twitter. :patriot:
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The last time Ted Cruz was booed offstage was when he stood before an audience of antisemites and told them "If you won't stand with Israel, I won't stand with you."
Trumpers are desperately digging for the bottom and its apparently because they can't stand the light Ted Cruz shines on them.
#IronTed
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Labor to keep alive in your breast that little spark of celestial fire, called conscience. -George Washington
#IronTed :patriot:
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Trumpers are desperately digging for the bottom and its apparently because they can't stand the light Ted Cruz shines on them.
#IronTed
It's their way or the highway!
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Seven pages since I went to bed? Wow! Busy thread.
Thanks, Sinkspur for doing such a fine job of keeping us in line!
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The last time Ted Cruz was booed offstage was when he stood before an audience of antisemites and told them "If you won't stand with Israel, I won't stand with you."
Trumpers are desperately digging for the bottom and its apparently because they can't stand the light Ted Cruz shines on them.
#IronTed
Whichever poster commented that most of those folks booing did not know what they were booing nailed it.
That being said, Ted emerged with his integrity intact. On Brietbart Radio this morning I heard the head of the American Conservative Union claim that Cruz had "damaged his brand".
Let's connect some dots. The Obama enabling, Conservative hating Mitch McConnell stymied Ted Cruz in actually mounting opposition to the Democrats. McConnell failes to invoke the "nuclear option". He is as inside as inside can be defined. He endorses Trump.
And rather that reject that endorsement (as a true outsider would logically do), Trump seeks and glories in it.
Cruz actually played it perfectly.
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That being said, Ted emerged with his integrity intact.
I think that's what it boils down to with many Trump supporters.
They debased themselves with their support for Trump and it just sticks in their craw that there are good and decent people who won't affirm their poor choice.
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Whichever poster commented that most of those folks booing did not know what they were booing nailed it.
That being said, Ted emerged with his integrity intact. On Brietbart Radio this morning I heard the head of the American Conservative Union claim that Cruz had "damaged his brand".
Let's connect some dots. The Obama enabling, Conservative hating Mitch McConnell stymied Ted Cruz in actually mounting opposition to the Democrats. McConnell failes to invoke the "nuclear option". He is as inside as inside can be defined. He endorses Trump.
And rather that reject that endorsement (as a true outsider would logically do), Trump seeks and glories in it.
Cruz actually played it perfectly.
Yes he did. Trump, however, continued to do what he does best...which is show his @ss and lack of integrity by setting Cruz up and instigating the boos. Trump also continues to make it impossible for Cruz supporters to vote for him in November instead of trying to unite the party vs. mere lip service....thus further dividing the party. I think it's damned intentional what Trump is doing. And it's working splendidly.
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I agree with Lando.....wonderful thread. It was a historical night that I'll not soon forget.
My own observation and opinion -
I don't know how in the world TOS could have shown so many of you the door. Thoughtful insights are numerous. I value reading them.
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Yes he did. Trump, however, continued to do what he does best...which is show his @ss and lack of integrity by setting Cruz up and instigating the boos. Trump also continues to make it impossible for Cruz supporters to vote for him in November instead of trying to unite the party vs. mere lip service....thus further dividing the party. I think it's damned intentional what Trump is doing. And it's working splendidly.
The saddest part, is that he is doing so with the increasingly shrill cooperation and participation of so many people who support him.
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It's their way or the highway!
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The cameras several times panned to the Trump family and every time they displayed the same attitude. Why? Because he didn't 'gloify' King Trump? Actually it was they that displayed a lack of class. They could have applauded Cruz when he mentioned Freedom and the Constitution .... what actually happened and what Jr. eluded to on Hannity is that they knew before hand that he wasn't going to endorse Trump. They made it into a personal vendetta and I wouldn't be surprised if they themselves encouraged the booing beforehand.
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The saddest part, is that he is doing so with the increasingly shrill cooperation and participation of so many people who support him.
Yes, he has managed to mesmerize quite a lot of folks that are supposedly righties, hasn't he.
This is like one seemingly never-ending episode of the Twilight Zone. And I don't think we're going to like the ending, when it finally does come.
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My question is this...why would the Trumpaholics want Cruz's endorsement? After all, they think he's a liar, the devil, an adulter, son of JFK's assassian, a globalist, and in general simply vile. Logic?
@politicalwit
It isn't about endorsing; it's about submission. Trump wanted to bring Ted to heel. I've seen plenty Trumpbots on twitter yelling, "You will bow your knee to Trump."
But it backfired spectacularly.
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Trump continues to disappoint. I keep searching for a sign that he is ready to become an adult and step into a role of leadership, but the days continue to pass with unforced error after unforced error.
Ready to become an adult at seventy? It's never going to happen.
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@politicalwit
It isn't about endorsing; it's about submission. Trump wanted to bring Ted to heel. I've seen plenty Trumpbots on twitter yelling, "You will bow your knee to Trump."
But it backfired spectacularly.
Yes. This speech will become larger over time, consternations of some notwithstanding.
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Where the hell is the thread that I can force my opinions and attack other posters like an angry insult comic?
@Frank Cannon
Dude, I hope you stay around.
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@politicalwit
It isn't about endorsing; it's about submission. Trump wanted to bring Ted to heel. I've seen plenty Trumpbots on twitter yelling, "You will bow your knee to Trump."
But it backfired spectacularly.
Meanwhile I'm seeing liberals Perez Hilton on Twitter saying they wish the democrats had someone who could "speak truth to party power" like that.
Iron Ted is the last man standing who hasn't groveled at the feet of either party.
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Thanks, Catherine. I was feeling with Freya also. So disgusted by that bunch. What a bunch of deluded morons.
And Trump.... he can't even spell HONOR. Cruz personifies it.
@Emjay
Absolutely true. Trump was hoping he could ruin Cruz last night, but as usual, the oaf got in his own way.
Someone who knows Cruz said that Ted's always been like that...unflappable, can't be intimidated. I'll bet he laughed on his way up in the elevator.
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I'm proud to say that Ted Cruz was the first (and so far only) political candidate I have ever given a donation. Cruz 2020!
Same here. I think we might even contribute to his Senate campaign, and we're not in Texas.
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Yes. This speech will become larger over time, consternations of some notwithstanding.
@Lando Lincoln
I saw a comment elsewhere which said Trump's efforts turned a very good speech into a legendary one. I tend to agree.
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Meanwhile I'm seeing liberals Perez Hilton on Twitter saying they wish the democrats had someone who could "speak truth to party power" like that.
Iron Ted is the last man standing who hasn't groveled at the feet of either party.
Even liberals have to admit the truth, lol.
CC, I've seen people saying stuff like, "I never liked Cruz before, but he deserves a second look" and "Still don't like the guy, but #RESPECT."
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Anger at Cruz telling people to vote their conscience seems to indicate that they know that they're willingly doing the wrong thing to begin with.
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@Lando Lincoln
I saw a comment elsewhere which said Trump's efforts turned a very good speech into a legendary one. I tend to agree.
I like that. It was principled, steadfast and unwavering, and made memorable in a manner you cannot script.
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Anger at Cruz telling people to vote their conscience seems to indicate that they know that they're willingly doing the wrong thing to begin with.
And don't even care...
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I like that. It was principled, steadfast and unwavering, and made memorable in a manner you cannot script.
Ted Cruz gave a ringing endorsement of the constitution.
Trump and his fans could have used it to their advantage but instead see it as a threat that must be torn limb from limb.
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And don't even care...
Oh, they care. They may be in denial now, but it is eating at them. That's why they are so shrill. Those who would not bend their knee to their candidate are the focus of that shrillness because we would not waver, we would not compromise our principles, and thus they hold their manhood cheap in our presence. That simple reminder that they could have been steadfast drives them past the boundaries of civility and entices them to attempt to provoke us likewise.
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Seven pages since I went to bed? Wow! Busy thread.
Thanks, Sinkspur for doing such a fine job of keeping us in line!
LOL!! You guys are the best. I haven't had to do a thing except step back and enjoy............
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Ted Cruz gave a ringing endorsement of the constitution.
Trump and his fans could have used it to their advantage but instead see it as a threat that must be torn limb from limb.
Yep, and much of how it will be assessed during the next 4 years will be the job performance of President Trump, should he become elected. Irony.
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@politicalwit
It isn't about endorsing; it's about submission. Trump wanted to bring Ted to heel. I've seen plenty Trumpbots on twitter yelling, "You will bow your knee to Trump."
But it backfired spectacularly.
Idolatry never quite goes out of fashion, does it?
Last night's spectacle proved that the power of ideas and the attraction of principle may still fail to satiate the desires of a mob more hungry for revenge than for justice or truth.
As has been the case throughout the rise of Trumpism, one can learn more from the followers than from the leader about the intentions and motivations of both.
What I think I witnessed last evening was the final end of the Reagan GOP, and the triumph of something far different. And also, darker.
That the presumptive presidential nominee of the Republican party and his supporters loudly refused to allow themselves to be upstaged by any discussion of conscience or Constitution itself spoke volumes about the parlous state of the American republic.
There was a King to be adored, and any who dared place country or conscience before him was going to hear it from the mob. And the mob was out in force last night: in Cleveland, on television, and all over the Internet, the mocking voices of the alt-Reich screamed out as one, "Bring us the head of Ted!"
How dare he deny a final, full triumph to King Donald of Orange? How rude, how selfish, how disloyal of him!
Doesn't he know that he lost, and we won?
Off with his head, then!
And on with the show.
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Sink - PM me when you have today's thread ready and I'll sticky it and lock this one.
And yes - I have the keys to put it at the top straight away (sorry about that delay yesterday, was unavoidably away from computer).
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Media event this morning. Ted Cruz is on fire.
Says he won't be a servile puppy dog.
Trupanzees attacking him "breaking his promise".
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I like that. It was principled, steadfast and unwavering, and made memorable in a manner you cannot script.
It was such a good quote that I just used it on another thread, lol.
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Media event this morning. Ted Cruz is on fire.
Says he won't be a servile puppy dog.
Trupanzees attacking him "breaking his promise".
LOL!
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LOL!
This is going to blow up big.
Ted is stealing Trump's thunder on his big day. :silly:
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LOL!! You guys are the best. I haven't had to do a thing except step back and enjoy............
Sink, that is true of course. But, you have done a hell of a job. Thank you.
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This is going to blow up big.
Ted is stealing Trump's thunder on his big day. :silly:
True. Cruz is the topic of the day. Not Trump.
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True. Cruz is the topic of the day. Not Trump.
Trump: King me
Cruz: Check Mate
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GUYS:
Let's move over here: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=216789.new#new.
I'm going to have this thread locked.
Time to celebrate Ted's big day.
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Thread locked, per request.
Stir your behinds to the new one, please!