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General Category => National/Breaking News => Topic started by: TomSea on April 27, 2019, 08:05:21 pm
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Multiple people gunned down at California synagogue shooting, man detained for questioning
By: Mario Sevilla
POWAY, Calif. — San Diego County Sheriff's deputies are responding to a shooting at a synagogue in Poway, California, Saturday afternoon.
The incident was reported at the Congregation Chabad located at 16934 Chabad Way, the San Diego County Sheriff's Office Twitter account reported.
More: https://www.kivitv.com/news/national/multiple-people-gunned-down-at-california-synagogue-deputies-search-for-shooter (https://www.kivitv.com/news/national/multiple-people-gunned-down-at-california-synagogue-deputies-search-for-shooter)
Whatever this is, if the probable suspect is detained, hopefully, this is over. I hope it is not too serious.
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As many as four people have reportedly been shot at the Chabad of Poway on Saturday.
A man was taken into custody for questioning, sheriff’s officials said. His name was not released.
The victims were taken to Palomar Medical Center in Escondido. Their conditions were unknown.
Sheriff’s deputies first warned about a man with a gun in the area of the Jewish synagogue on Chabad Way about noon.
“Please stay clear of the area and allow deputies to safely do their job. Thank you for your patience and cooperation,†the sheriff’s tweet said.
Authorities have taped off the area around Chabad and a command post has been set up at Chaparral Elementary School just north of the congregation.
It was unclear where in the synagogue the shooting occurred.
Jewish prayers are held at 10 a.m. each Saturday, then a children’s program at 11 a.m., according to the synagogue’s website. A sit-down Kiddush and Farbrengen — traditional Jewish gatherings — were to follow.
Several neighbors reported hearing the gunshots, and some were evacuated from nearby homes to the school temporarily as a precaution.
San Diego police were keeping watch on other local synagogues as a precaution.
No further information was immediately available.
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/public-safety/story/2019-04-27/reports-of-several-people-shot-at-poway-synagogue (https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/public-safety/story/2019-04-27/reports-of-several-people-shot-at-poway-synagogue)
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Sheriff: Shooting at California synagogue leaves injuries
POWAY, Calif. (AP) — Authorities say a shooting at a synagogue outside San Diego has left people injured but the extent is unclear.
San Diego County sheriff’s office also said Saturday on Twitter that a man has been detained in connection with the shooting at the Chabad of Poway.
A handful of police cars were parked outside the synagogue in the city of Poway, just over 20 miles (32 kilometers) north of San Diego. Crime tape surrounded the street in front of the building.
Officials say deputies were called just before 11:30 a.m.
The shooting came on the last day of Passover and exactly six months since a shooting at a Pittsburgh synagogue killed 11 people.
A truck driver who authorities say expressed hatred of Jews has been charged in the deadliest attack on Jews in U.S. history. He’s pleaded not guilty to the Oct. 27 rampage at the Tree of Life synagogue.
https://apnews.com/36c8a77e02e4448ca1ef78e0b90ac2c1
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Update
One dead
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May the perp rot in hell.
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May the perp rot in hell.
Little doubt of that.
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Will the press call them “Passover Worshippers�
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Will the press call them “Passover Worshippers�
I'm wondering why the reporter used today's shooting to repeat details from the Tree of Life shooting.
Maybe an off-duty border patrol agent successfully 'engaging' the shooter has something to do with it. A little more MSM 'sleight of hand'.
Prayers for the injured & dead.
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It was a woman who died.
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Horrible story. Waiting for release of name of shooter- a nineteen year old who lives in mom's basement?
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Someone's been detained, but no word yet on who he is.
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Someone's been detained, but no word yet on who he is.
They said he’s 19 years old. That’s it.
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They said he’s 19 years old. That’s it.
And, of course, they claim it's a white male. It's ALWAYS a white male.
Scapegoat.
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Bellingcat
@bellingcat
We have come across what appears to be a manifesto for the Poway synagogue shooter. He identifies as an anon from 8chan's /pol/ board. He claims he was inspired by the Christchurch shooting. His manifesto is filled with shitposting and should not be taken literally.
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Shooter’s manifesto
https://pastebin.com/raw/VXXFQMTW
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John Earnest, alright, I just saw that name mentioned, assuming reports are true.
I could research the information myself but I'm going to say that I have thought San Diego was Ben Shapiro's homebase or at least, somewhere nearby. I've been thinking about Ben but really about all.
My thoughts and prayers for all affected.
@QueenCatofAragon
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manifesto:
"“Are you a Trump supporter?â€
"You mean that Zionist, Jew-loving, anti-White, traitorous bleep? Don’t make me laugh."
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Bellingcat
@bellingcat
We have come across what appears to be a manifesto for the Poway synagogue shooter. He identifies as an anon from 8chan's /pol/ board. He claims he was inspired by the Christchurch shooting. His manifesto is filled with shitposting and should not be taken literally.
Jeez, another nutcase from 8chan.
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John Earnest, alright, I just saw that name mentioned, assuming reports are true.
I could research the information myself but I'm going to say that I have thought San Diego was Ben Shapiro's homebase or at least, somewhere nearby. I've been thinking about Ben but really about all.
My thoughts and prayers for all affected.
@QueenCatofAragon
@TomSea
Absolutely, yes.
Interesting that the bastard thought God approved of his actions. He’s been deprived of that notion by now.
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Jeez, another nutcase from 8chan.
@EdJames
That place is a nest of crazy, and worse.
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I'm wondering why the reporter used today's shooting to repeat details from the Tree of Life shooting.
Maybe an off-duty border patrol agent successfully 'engaging' the shooter has something to do with it. A little more MSM 'sleight of hand'.
Prayers for the injured & dead.
I wondered about that too. The article reads, "There was a shooting today in San Diego. But more importantly there was a similar shooting 6 months ago. Let's talk about that one...".
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@EdJames
That place is a nest of crazy, and worse.
@QueenCatofAragon
It really is. Psychopaths and sociopaths go there for inspiration.
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I said it before, some of these "kids" get exposed to this garbage. It is almost the way some get exposed to this Jihadism. Different names, same outcomes.
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From AP wire on my iPhone
Sheriff: suspect in shooting at California synagogue is John earnest. He’s being investigated in a mosque arson last month.
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From AP wire on my iPhone
Sheriff: suspect in shooting at California synagogue is John earnest. He’s being investigated in a mosque arson last month.
This is where the fake news media is contradicting themselves. On one hand they say he did it to avenge the ChristChurch shooting, which of course Jews had nothing to do with. In the next sentence they say that he attacked a mosque?
These are diametrically opposed statements. So one of them must be a lie. (which is not new to the American Pravda)
I am wondering if this "also attacked a mosque" thread is the Left's attempt to drag Mecca Worshippers into the incident. That is to say, if Jews were attacked, then Mecca Worshippers must also be attacked. Just to make everything 'even'. The Left simply cannot portray Jews or Christians as victims, without dragging Islam into the issue as a victim as well.
We saw that in Congress when Pelosi refused to condemn blatant vicious antisemitism, and instead said that 'all hate' (an obvious bow to Islam) must be condemned. Yes. Well that is true. But it was not the subject of the issue at hand. The Left is in a frenzy to equate antisemitism with anti-Islam feelings, even after the Mecca Worshippers just slaughtered hundreds of Christians at prayer. We are not supposed to think about that, as if it never happened. That still doesn't give anyone the right to be angry at the religion that just murdered your family, friends, and your children. Being angry at murderous terrorists is the same as antisemitism according to the Left.
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California synagogue shooting suspect identified; 1 dead, 3 injured including rabbi, authorities say
A 19-year-old man armed with an assault-type rifle opened fire inside a Southern California synagogue on Saturday as worshipers prepared to celebrate the last day of Passover, killing a woman and injuring three others, authorities said.
An unidentified off-duty border patrol agent who was inside Chabad of Poway synagogue fired at the shooter – identified later as John Earnest – missing him, but striking his getaway vehicle, authorities said.
While in the vehicle, Earnest called 911 to report the shooting, San Diego Police Chief David Nisleit said. When an officer reached the man on a roadway, “the suspect pulled over, jumped out of his car with his hands up and was immediately taken into custody,†he added.
more
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-synagogue-shooting-suspect-identified-1-dead-3-injured-including-rabbi-authorities-say (https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-synagogue-shooting-suspect-identified-1-dead-3-injured-including-rabbi-authorities-say)
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BKMK
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Recall the Christchurch shooter was out to have the government in the US make a play to take away guns and start open conflict here. At least that was one of the things he said.
If Neither Muslims nor Jews are safe, who is next in this ploy to get the government to try to ban firearms here?-- because it looks like they want everyone to feel like a victim at this point--which would play into some sort of popular support for government making an anti-gun move, and which might, at least by their logic, achieve the Christchurch shooter's goal.
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Mourning the Loss of Chabad Synagogue Congregant Lori Gilbert Kaye
BY Audrey Jacobs | Apr 27, 2019
Today an anti-Semitic hate crime shot and killed my friend Lori Gilbert Kaye while she was praying in synagogue. Lori you were a jewel of our community a true Eshet Chayil, a Woman of Valor. You were always running to do a mitzvah (good deed) and generously gave tzedaka (charity) to everyone. Your final good deed was jumping in front of Rabbi Mendel Goldstein to take the bullet and save his life.
Your life was defined by your good deeds. Lori leaves behind a devastated husband and 22-year-old daughter. When I heard the horrific news, Lori I called your best friend Dr. Roneet Lev Lee who is at the hospital with the other victims. Friends, if you had not heard, please note and share this widely – Today at the Chabad of Poway Synagogue on Shabbat and the last day of the Passover holiday, 19-year-old John Earnest stormed in and said ‘F*ck the Jews’ and opened fire with an AR-type assault weapon during the Rabbi’s sermon. ...
The horror continues, the murderer also shot a 8-year-old girl, Noya Dahan. She asked for her pictured to be shared and for everyone to know she is strong. Noya’s family moved to San Diego from the Israeli city of Sderot (San Diego’s sister city) to get away from the terrorism and the constant attacks on their community. The other victim who was shot was Along Peretz, age 32, Noya’s uncle who came from Sderot to visit his family for the Passover holiday. They are both now in stable condition. ...
More (https://jewishjournal.com/culture/lifestyle/first_person/297706/mourning-the-loss-of-chabad-synagogue-congregant-lori-gilbert-kaye/)
(https://jewishjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/photo-.jpg)
Lori Gilbert Kaye
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@240B
"Maybe an off-duty border patrol agent successfully 'engaging' the shooter has something to do with it. A little more MSM 'sleight of hand'."
DHS has confirmed this.
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Aren't AK's banned there?
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They are having services at my synagogue later . I’ll go and pray. I’m also praying for those here who are sick and experiencing hard times. You all know who you are, I’m not naming in a public thread.
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May the perp rot in hell.
@Hopalong Ginsberg
I don't believe in hell,but I have no doubt he is going to spend a lot of time rotting in a mental institution if he is lucky,and a prison if he isn't. Well,given that he is a skinny white boy,I doubt he will rot all that long in prison. Somebody will kill him for fun.
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And, of course, they claim it's a white male. It's ALWAYS a white male.
Scapegoat.
@jmyrlefuller
Well,it's hard to complain about that because he IS a white male. More like a skinny white boy/Beaver Cleaver than a "male",but he is what he is. What else would you have them call him?
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@TomSea
Interesting that the bastard thought God approved of his actions.
@QueenCatofAragon
You are surprised by THIS? SERIOUSLY? Every monster in history but the communists monsters have claimed God approved of their depravity,and truth to tell,so did the communists. The only difference is their "God" was named Marx.
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We saw that in Congress when Pelosi refused to condemn blatant vicious antisemitism
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Not to worry. She is not going to have any problem at all condemning a skinny white boy.
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California synagogue shooting suspect linked to blaze at mosque: report
By Chris Mills Rodrigo - 04/28/19 03:49 PM EDT
A man accused of opening fire at a San Diego-area synagogue on Saturday has reportedly been linked to a previous arson blaze at a nearby mosque.
ABC News reported Sunday, citing a law enforcement source, that John Earnest, 19, had been identified as a suspect in a March 24 arson fire that damaged the Dar-ul-Arqam mosque in Escondido, about 15 miles north of the Chabad of Poway synagogue.
Earnest "is our guy," the law enforcement source told ABC of the arson at the mosque.
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https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/441061-california-synagogue-shooting-suspect-linked-to-blaze-at-mosque (https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/441061-california-synagogue-shooting-suspect-linked-to-blaze-at-mosque)
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@QueenCatofAragon
You are surprised by THIS? SERIOUSLY? Every monster in history but the communists monsters have claimed God approved of their depravity,and truth to tell,so did the communists. The only difference is their "God" was named Marx.
True enough. I don't blame God for the evil people do claiming He approves. It's their sick interpretation of Him, and on them, not Him. "Thou shalt not Murder" was pretty plain.
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Again, if you read the Christchurch shooter's manifesto, the objective here is to start a war in the US, any way they can, to get the Government here to try to take away our RKBA, and to incite serious problems between gun owners and the Government here. It struck me as strange that the guy was shooting Muslims in NZ to do this, but he also mentioned (correctly) that the Kiwis would lose their guns over the incident. He described NZ as "lost", but expected violence in the US if such measures were taken by the government here against the RKBA.
Mosques, Synagogues, Churches, any soft target that will cause an outcry, across religious and racial lines, are targets for this type of 'movement', aimed at providing ammo to the anti-gun factions in the US and elsewhere where there is still an RKBA, for the purpose of fomenting a greater conflict.
These incidents are part of a larger pattern of instigation attempts.
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"He described NZ as "lost", but expected violence in the US if such measures were taken by the government here against the RKBA. Mosques, Synagogues, Churches, any soft target that will cause an outcry, across religious and racial lines, are targets for this type of 'movement', aimed at providing ammo to the anti-gun factions in the US and elsewhere where there is still an RKBA, for the purpose of fomenting a greater conflict."
These incidents are part of a larger pattern of instigation attempts.
@Smokin Joe
Yes, what you wrote is true. All Fort Worth Catholic diocese churches have organized security officers, several per church, now and it just started. Did you ever think you would not be safe in church?
Will your church be the next one "hit", or will it be mine? Some people are going to stop going to church because this is happening. That appears to be one of the goals about those of which you write.
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@Smokin Joe
Some people are going to stop going to church because this is happening.
@Victoria33
I seriously doubt that. If anything it will make the devout MORE likely to attend regular services.
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@Victoria33
I seriously doubt that. If anything it will make the devout MORE likely to attend regular services.
@sneakypete
There will be less Jews attending synagogue due to some parents will not take their children there.
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@sneakypete
There will be less Jews attending synagogue due to some parents will not take their children there.
@Victoria33
OK. I will take your word for it.
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Synagogue Shooter Also Under Investigation For Attempted Mosque Arson
Published: April 28, 2019
After bragging in his alleged manifesto about attempting to burn down a mosque in Escondido, Calif. late last month, San Diego sheriff Bill Gore confirmed late Saturday evening that 19-year-old John Earnest, the suspect in a shooting at a Poway, Calif. synagogue, is also under investigation for attempted arson at a nearby mosque.
As we reported yesterday, there was an early morning arson at a nearby Mosque in Escondido, California on March 24 which remains unsolved. While several people were sleeping inside, one person who was awake spotted the flames and managed to put out the fire. In his manifesto, Earnest claimed inspiration from Brenton Tarrant, the man who killed nearly 50 people at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand.
https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/72349/synagogue-shooter-also-under-investigation-for-attempted-mosque.html (https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/72349/synagogue-shooter-also-under-investigation-for-attempted-mosque.html)
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Rabbi in California synagogue shooting says gunman’s gun jammed, or would have been ‘bloodbath’
By Edmund DeMarche
Published April 28, 2019
Fox News
The Rabbi who was shot inside a Southern California synagogue on the last day of Passover said Sunday that it was nothing short of a miracle that the gunman's semiautomatic rifle jammed and prevented what would have been a “bloodbath."
Rabbi Yisroel Goldstein appeared in bandages during a press conference outside Chabad of Poway on Sunday. He lost his index finger after being shot in a shooting spree that killed one and injured three. Two worshippers — 34-year-old Almog Peretz and 8-year-old Noya Dahan — suffered shrapnel wounds.
He said he looked up on Saturday and saw a young man wearing sunglasses standing in front of him with a rifle. He said he lifted his hands and was shot. He says he lost his index finger. And then, Goldstein said, “miraculously the gun jammed.â€
https://www.foxnews.com/us/rabbi-in-california-synagogue-shooting-says-gunmans-gun-jammed-or-would-have-been-bloodbath (https://www.foxnews.com/us/rabbi-in-california-synagogue-shooting-says-gunmans-gun-jammed-or-would-have-been-bloodbath)
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...The Los Angeles Times reported that Goldstein recently asked a Border Patrol agent to attend the temple while armed and it apparently paid off. The agent gave chase to the suspect and fired as he sped off....
This is confusing to me. He asked the Border Patrol to come to the temple? Or was he asking permission to attend with the rifle?
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@Victoria33
I seriously doubt that. If anything it will make the devout MORE likely to attend regular services.
But how many are really that devout? This was passover weekend we're talking about. I'm not sure about Judaism, but Easter is one of the highest-attended Christian services of the year. So, more than likely, the synagogue had higher-than-average attendance. Having the place shot up is certainly not going to convince those visitors to come back.
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This is the Army veteran who chased the gunman out of the Poway synagogue
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-diego-synagogue-shooting-hero-20190428-story.html (https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-diego-synagogue-shooting-hero-20190428-story.html)
...Whatever it was that moved through him in that moment, it propelled Stewart into the lobby. He saw the young man — who authorities say was 19-year-old John T. Earnest — in a military-style vest wielding a semiautomatic rifle.
“Get down!†Stewart yelled in the loudest tenor he could muster.
The gunman fired two more rounds in response.
“I’m going to kill you,†Stewart boomed. This seemed to rattle Earnest, who began to flee.
From his time as a sergeant in the Army, Stewart knew that the rifle would be useless if he was within five feet of it. So he kept close to the shooter as he chased him into the parking lot.
The shooter got into a Honda sedan. Stewart, seeing the man reach for his weapon, punched the side of the car. The man started the ignition and let go of the rifle.
That’s when Jonathan Morales, an off-duty Border Patrol agent, shot four bullets into the car. As the shooter sped away, Stewart and Morales took down the license plate number....
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But how many are really that devout?
I have no idea,and why is the actual number important to someone religious? What SHOULD be important to you is that holidays like Easter are still observed by the faithful. Be happy with what you have and try to build on it instead of pissed over what you don't have.
This was passover weekend we're talking about. I'm not sure about Judaism, but Easter is one of the highest-attended Christian services of the year. So, more than likely, the synagogue had higher-than-average attendance. Having the place shot up is certainly not going to convince those visitors to come back.
Really? It even makes ME want to go to show solidarity with the faithful,and I suspect I am one of the LEAST religious people you are in contact with. This is AMERICA,dammit,and Americans are supposed to be able to live their daily lives and practice their personal beliefs without fear of being murdered for them.
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Army veteran stopped him? Man, I do respect and honor veterans. G-d bless you Sir :patriot:
And all who served and are serving. You all are heroes to me.
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This is the Army veteran who chased the gunman out of the Poway synagogue
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-diego-synagogue-shooting-hero-20190428-story.html (https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-diego-synagogue-shooting-hero-20190428-story.html)
...Whatever it was that moved through him in that moment, it propelled Stewart into the lobby. He saw the young man — who authorities say was 19-year-old John T. Earnest — in a military-style vest wielding a semiautomatic rifle.
“Get down!†Stewart yelled in the loudest tenor he could muster.
The gunman fired two more rounds in response.
“I’m going to kill you,†Stewart boomed. This seemed to rattle Earnest, who began to flee.
From his time as a sergeant in the Army, Stewart knew that the rifle would be useless if he was within five feet of it. So he kept close to the shooter as he chased him into the parking lot.
The shooter got into a Honda sedan. Stewart, seeing the man reach for his weapon, punched the side of the car. The man started the ignition and let go of the rifle.
That’s when Jonathan Morales, an off-duty Border Patrol agent, shot four bullets into the car. As the shooter sped away, Stewart and Morales took down the license plate number....
@thackney
Whatever else can be said for Mr.Stewart,nobody can say he isn't a bold and courageous man!
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Combat Vet Who Stopped The Synagogue Shooter: ‘I Scared The Hell Out Of Him’
8:21 PM 04/28/2019 | US
Rachel Stoltzfoos | Staff Reporter
The man who fired a semi-automatic weapon inside the Chabad of Poway synagogue in San Diego on Saturday froze, dropped his gun and sprinted to his car when he saw Oscar Stewart come barreling toward him, yelling so loud the priest at a neighboring church could hear.
“Get down!†Stewart yelled, according to his wife and others who were at the scene. “You m**********r! I’m going to kill you!â€
Others who were there later told him it sounded like four or five people were shouting. He thinks maybe an angel was standing behind him and speaking through his voice. When the shooter ran, he immediately gave chase. ...
He may not call himself a hero, but Stewart believes his actions effectively stopped the shooter. He doesn’t think reports of the shooter’s gun jamming as the reason he fled are likely to be true, because he was using a semi-automatic rifle. “Full automatic weapons will jam,†he said. “Semi-automatic weapons do not jam.†He thinks maybe the shooter had emptied his magazine. Whatever the case, the shooter let the slung weapon drop and fled.
“He was in the act of shooting when I saw him,†Stewart said. “When I yelled at him he turned and looked at me, and he like froze. And then the look on his face was one of amazement at first, and then one of fear. He saw me coming, and I was ready to do whatever I had to do to stop him.†...
More at Daily Caller (https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/28/combat-vet-stopped-san-diego-synagogue-shooter/)
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...“Semi-automatic weapons do not jam.†...
BS. Jams from failed complete ejection, misaligned loading, etc do occur. They occur often enough that many training classes teach how to quickly clear most jams.
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Mr. Stewart:
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BS. Jams from failed complete ejection, misaligned loading, etc do occur. They occur often enough that many training classes teach how to quickly clear most jams.
That assumes this guy actually took classes. He was 19. Judging by his manifesto it would not surprise me if he had no idea how to operate the device he was using. Shoot first, ask questions later.
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That assumes this guy actually took classes. He was 19. Judging by his manifesto it would not surprise me if he had no idea how to operate the device he was using. Shoot first, ask questions later.
I'm not talking about the shooter. The quote about not jamming was from the hero.
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I'm not talking about the shooter. The quote about not jamming was from the hero.
I wondered about this comment "Stewart knew that the rifle would be useless if he was within five feet of it." Still, the guys got a hell of a pair to charge the shooter like he did!
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I wondered about this comment "Stewart knew that the rifle would be useless if he was within five feet of it." Still, the guys got a hell of a pair to charge the shooter like he did!
Since he was a Sargent in the army, I'm guessing bad reporting.
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Another one of these 8chan q anon freaks.
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More at Daily Caller (https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/28/combat-vet-stopped-san-diego-synagogue-shooter/)
He doesn’t think reports of the shooter’s gun jamming as the reason he fled are likely to be true, because he was using a semi-automatic rifle. “Full automatic weapons will jam,†he said. “Semi-automatic weapons do not jam.â€
UHHHHHHHH.........,
OK,I said he was brave. I didn't say he was smart.
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Since he was a Sargent in the army, I'm guessing bad reporting.
@thackney
Just don't bet money on it. Most of the Sergeants in the army are barely aware of which end the bullet comes out of. Probably 90 percent are support troops who never see their rifles but once a year.
I have know of junior NCO's in security company that amongst other duties provided camp security for our camp in VN that didn't know how to load or fire the belt fed 30 and 50 caliber machine guns used at strong points. They didn't know because they had never been in the infantry,and were too embarrassed to admit it to ask for help.
Had a Staff Sergeant E-6 transfer to my FOB from the 173rd Airborne Brigade in VN. Since he was SSG,came from the 173rd ( a VERY professional hard core unit),and was wearing a CIB,we all assumed he knew the basics,so didn't worry about him. On our first operation in Laos I told him to set up a claymore mine with a good field of fire when we sit up our RON at the end of the first day,and he said "ok". Imagine my surprise when I came by to check on him before dark to make sure his position was secure,and caught him looking through the sighting glass on the claymore like it was a rifle scope,and holding the detonator in his hand. The sighting glass is so you can look through it when you emplace it,and see what ground it will over. It has a backblast that goes back up to 15 yards that will take your head off. It starts out as wide as the mine,and tapers off to a point. There is no way he would have survived the blast if he had squeezed the detonator.
BTW,a Claymore mine has a blasting cap to ignite a KILO of plastic explosive that then sends 700 steel ball out in a 45 degree arc. I can't remember know if the effective killing range is 30 feet or 45 feet,but it is not something to play with.
Come to find out he had been a cook in the 173rd,and had a buddy in personnel add his name to a list of CIB awardees. He had never fired a shot in anger in his life,or been shot at in his life. That was the first and the last mission he went on. His orders transferring him back to the regular army were waiting for him when we got back to the FOB a few days later.
Good thing I caught him before we sent him out on to lead a patrol of yards. Chances are he would have gotten them all killed. The man honestly had no idea how much danger he had put himself and the rest of us in by pretending to be something he wasn't. There was nothing "special" or exotic about setting up a claymore. It was common knowledge to everyone in the infantry.
Crazy,but true. I don't understand it. There is no shame in admitting you don't know something. Nobody knows everything,and we all have to learn.