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Title: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: NavyCanDo on September 24, 2016, 04:27:03 am
Still Breaking news here in Western WA.


BURLINGTON, Wash. -- A search is underway for an armed man suspected of killing at least four people in a shooting at Cascade Mall in Skagit County, the Washington State Patrol says.

The suspected shooter was last seen walking towards Interstate 5, away from the mall, Sgt. Francis with State Patrol tells KOMO News.



http://komonews.com/news/local/police-respond-to-possible-shooter-at-cascade-mall
Modified by Mod1 to reflect updated information


Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: Applewood on September 24, 2016, 09:39:20 am
I'm sure those right wing nut job gun nuts will be blamed in 3...2...1...

Most malls are dying and it's not just the economy.   Malls have become unsafe and mall owners refuse to spend money on security.  Much safer to stay home and order online.   
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: rangerrebew on September 24, 2016, 12:10:41 pm
At least 3 shot dead in shooting in Burlington mall near Seattle
Listen | Print
By Marcus Hondro     7 hours ago in Crime
Details are still coming in but Washington State police say that 3, possibly 4 people were shot dead tonight in Burlington, north of Seattle. The gunman remains at large.
Police say the shooting took place inside the Cascade Mall in Burlington. Sgt. Mark Francis of the Washington State patrol sent two tweets about the shooting. At 7:33 p.m. Sgt. Francis wrote: "Active shooter description: Hispanic male wearing grey. Last seen walking towards I5 from Cascade Mall burlington."
Then half-an-hour later at 8:03 p.m. he wrote: "4 confirmed deceased in the mall, shooter(s) left scene b4 police arrived, unknown # of shooter, possibly just 1, police clearing mall now." Later, police said that only 3 were confirmed dead and that another was critically wounded.
Security stills show the man was wearing a dark grey or black t-shirt.

Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/crime/four-people-shot-dead-in-random-shooting-in-mall-near-seattle/article/475593#ixzz4LAsrwUNg
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: chae on September 24, 2016, 12:29:24 pm
It's difficult to do online only shopping for clothes if you're a woman. Different companies size clothing differently.  A size 12 pants by "Tripp" translates to a size 16 or 18 depending on the cut of "Baby Phat" jeans. I'm also pretty busty, so I rarely order tops or dresses online. 
Depending on where you get your clothing, unless you get a good deal, the shipping is crazy, and if it doesn't fit returning it is a total hassle.  Just don't go to ghetto malls or malls with several bus stops, or go in the morning and you're usually good.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: Applewood on September 24, 2016, 01:14:51 pm
It's difficult to do online only shopping for clothes if you're a woman. Different companies size clothing differently.  A size 12 pants by "Tripp" translates to a size 16 or 18 depending on the cut of "Baby Phat" jeans. I'm also pretty busty, so I rarely order tops or dresses online. 
Depending on where you get your clothing, unless you get a good deal, the shipping is crazy, and if it doesn't fit returning it is a total hassle.  Just don't go to ghetto malls or malls with several bus stops, or go in the morning and you're usually good.

I tend to buy clothes from the same manufacturers all the time, so I don't have a problem with sizing.  Some retailers offer free shipping and they even provide a return label, so if the item doesn't fit, put it back in the box, tape the box, slap the label on it and have one of the carriers pick it up.  Easy. 

In winter I'm mostly housebound, so online shopping has been wonderful for me.  Same goes for people living "out in the sticks" or maybe overseas where they can't get to a brick and mortar store.  Some people don't want the hassle of traffic and finding a parking space, especially around the holidays.  Some people don't like crowds.   Now with constant reports of stabbings, shootings and carjackings, people just find it safer and more convenient to shop in the safety and comfort of their own homes. They will pay the shipping and deal with returns just to stay safe.

Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: mountaineer on September 24, 2016, 01:19:58 pm
"Hispanic," eh? I suppose that means the shooter had something other than WASPy white skin, which doesn't rule out a Middle Easterner. No reports yet of what he may have said during the event.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: Rivergirl on September 24, 2016, 01:21:01 pm
five women murdered in Macy's makeup department.   
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: mountaineer on September 24, 2016, 01:29:31 pm
Death toll now 5.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/09/24/05/38BC6DC400000578-3805102-image-m-70_1474691823757.jpg)
The perp.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: Blizzardnh on September 24, 2016, 01:41:11 pm
I tend to buy clothes from the same manufacturers all the time, so I don't have a problem with sizing.  Some retailers offer free shipping and they even provide a return label, so if the item doesn't fit, put it back in the box, tape the box, slap the label on it and have one of the carriers pick it up.  Easy. 

In winter I'm mostly housebound, so online shopping has been wonderful for me.  Same goes for people living "out in the sticks" or maybe overseas where they can't get to a brick and mortar store.  Some people don't want the hassle of traffic and finding a parking space, especially around the holidays.  Some people don't like crowds.   Now with constant reports of stabbings, shootings and carjackings, people just find it safer and more convenient to shop in the safety and comfort of their own homes. They will pay the shipping and deal with returns just to stay safe.
I just ordered a radiator for the wifes jeep off of ebay. It was $50 cheaper than anything local and free shipping.I can't remember the last time I went to a mall.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: NavyCanDo on September 24, 2016, 01:57:01 pm
I'm sure those right wing nut job gun nuts will be blamed in 3...2...1...

Most malls are dying and it's not just the economy.   Malls have become unsafe and mall owners refuse to spend money on security.  Much safer to stay home and order online.   

Washington malls are still quite busy, though the large majority of people seem to leave without packages. When we go its hardly ever with an objective to buy something. Maybe go see a movie and walk around the mall to kill som time. The Cascade Mall is popular with Canadians, who will drive down from B.C.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: TomSea on September 24, 2016, 02:57:53 pm
At first, they seemed to have an idea of who the suspect is; now, Neil Cavuto on Fox was saying the authorities do not know who this is.

At first, too, it sounded a bit like the jilted boyfriend kind of act, yes, grossly and sickly excessive; but now, who knows what we are looking at.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: goatprairie on September 24, 2016, 03:13:39 pm
I know people concerned about invasion of privacy dislike the trend to put cameras almost everywhere, but it has caught countless perps since they've been installed. This guy's mug was probably caught many times on different cameras in the mall.

In my hometown of La Crosse, Wi a few years ago there was a double murder of an owner of a camera store and his son. The perp had waited in a room inside the store until the store closed and all the customers were gone. He then shot and killed the owner and his son and stole thousands of dollars worth of camera equipment.   
One of the main reasons they caught him was the camera store had security cameras outside the store. The police scanned the film and saw the perps van and license plates. They then went to the guys home fifty miles away, searched the house, and found a lot of camera equipment which they traced to the shop. The guy was convicted of the murders and is now serving a life term.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: Applewood on September 24, 2016, 04:07:15 pm
I just ordered a radiator for the wifes jeep off of ebay. It was $50 cheaper than anything local and free shipping.I can't remember the last time I went to a mall.

Haven't done Ebay, but I confess to being an Amazon junkie.  Free shipping on many items, particularly if you subscribe to Prime, and in my experience, customer service has been outstanding.  And I'm amazed at the stuff I can find on Amazon.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: Applewood on September 24, 2016, 04:11:42 pm
I know people concerned about invasion of privacy dislike the trend to put cameras almost everywhere, but it has caught countless perps since they've been installed. This guy's mug was probably caught many times on different cameras in the mall.

In my hometown of La Crosse, Wi a few years ago there was a double murder of an owner of a camera store and his son. The perp had waited in a room inside the store until the store closed and all the customers were gone. He then shot and killed the owner and his son and stole thousands of dollars worth of camera equipment.   
One of the main reasons they caught him was the camera store had security cameras outside the store. The police scanned the film and saw the perps van and license plates. They then went to the guys home fifty miles away, searched the house, and found a lot of camera equipment which they traced to the shop. The guy was convicted of the murders and is now serving a life term.

I'm all for cameras.  Screw the privacy thing.  We live in dangerous times.  Anything than can prevent crime or catch the perp after a crime is committed is fine with me.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: mountaineer on September 24, 2016, 04:50:23 pm
Quote
5 Quick Details About Mass-Shooting At Cascade Mall in Burlington, WA
By Officer Blue On September 24, 2016
Blue Lives Matter (http://bluelivesmatter.blue/cascade-mall-shooting-burlington-wa/)


On Friday night, a man entered the Cascade Mall in Burlington, WA and started shooting people. The attack was planned and deliberate, but a motive is unknown at this time. Here are 5 quick details about the shooting:
5. The Cascade Mall Shooter Appears To Have Acted Alone

There’s no evidence that anybody besides the lone shooter was involved in the attack.

4. Five People Were Killed

There were initially many different news outlets reporting different numbers of victims. It has now been confirmed that the shooter shot and killed five people. Four of the victims were dead on scene and one died later after being transported to the hospital.

3. Four of the Victims Were Women at the Macy’s Makeup Counter

Four of the victims were female, and one was male. The shooting occurred at the Macy’s makeup counter after the suspect went straight there and started shooting the women there.

2. The Cascade Mall Shooter Was Armed With A Hunting Rifle

Surveillance video shows the shooter arriving at the mall and walking through Macy’s with a hunting rifle in his hands. An image taken from the security footage was released (see above.) The suspect clearly arrived at the male with the intent to murder. This shooting might harm the narrative that “assault rifles” are responsible for mass shootings, or it could just be used as an excuse to ban all firearms.

1. He Is Still On The Loose!

At the time of this writing, the shooter has successfully evaded capture. The suspect left prior to police officers arriving and nobody has seen him since. The identity of this sick killer is still unknown, but he’s believed to be a young Hispanic male. Anybody with any information on this suspect is encouraged to call 911 immediately before he kills again.
I rarely go to an indoor shopping mall, but am usually armed (irrespective of any NO GUNS sign that may be posted). As chae said, it's difficult for women to buy clothing without trying on the items. Thankfully, I hate to buy new clothes!  ^-^
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: TomSea on September 24, 2016, 07:56:03 pm
With last weekend's events, I wonder if this was some sort of "random" (as some reports are saying now) incident and maybe even a "random" terrorist attack, late on a Friday,  go to a Macy's (often in the corners of malls), do your deed and leave. It's almost like they are on a cold trail now.

"Burlington mayor vows to ‘bring the son of a b**** to justice’"
http://q13fox.com/2016/09/24/burlington-mayor-vows-to-bring-the-son-of-a-b-to-justice/
(https://tribkcpq.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/suspect11.png?w=212)
As earlier I saw only that one picture and the reports saying this guy "appeared" to be a Hispanic, with this picture, just me personally, I could wonder if he's Pakistani or something.

He's young enough, you'd think someone would say "Oh, I went to High School with this guy"; last night, there was some of a twitter buzz per reading other forums, giving an Indian (as in Hindu, Subcontinent) type of name.

Go in, with relative anonymity, make the hit and leave.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: livius on September 24, 2016, 08:39:08 pm
He doesn't look Hispanic to me, and a male Hispanic would not generally blow away four women, two of them elderly, at a perfume counter; if he was mad at his girlfriend, he might stab her, but he sure wouldn't come in armed for bear and kill female bystanders.

REmember that the police are now describing ME-looking men as "Hispanics" - they did this in Orlando, San Bernardino and most recently in NYC.  Anything to protect the Muslims from their own actions - I guess Hispanics don't rate as high on the PC scale so they can casually be accused of terrorism with no fear of anybody's objecting.

Aside from that, I suspect that this was a Muslim "honor killing," and that the reason none of the names of the victims have been released is that at least one of the younger women has a Muslim name and was the sister or possibly even wife of the killer.

This is, of course, pure supposition, but to me it makes a lot more sense than other scenarios...
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: mountaineer on September 24, 2016, 08:50:14 pm
I quite agree, livius (as indicated by my post above). When the perp's skin tone is a bit darker than lily white, let's just call him Hispanic, even if he's from Egypt or Syria.

Of course:
Quote
Police believe the suspect acted alone, and the FBI said it has no indication at this point that the shooting is linked to terrorism.

"We have no indication this was a terrorism act," Michael Knutson, assistant special agent in charge of the Seattle FBI, said at the press conference. "There is no evidence to support that."

But Knutson cautioned, "I cannot discount it."

Mount Vernon Police Lt. Chris Cammock said the motive for the deadly shooting is unknown.
ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/US/report-active-shooter-mall-burlington-washington/story?id=42321253)
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: livius on September 24, 2016, 10:01:05 pm
in the brief few moments during which reporters got to people exiting the mall (before the press was effectively gagged), someone who had been in the store said they heard him say what sounded like a girls's name.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on September 24, 2016, 10:08:44 pm
If this guy proves to be middle Eastern, Obama will likely say he was simply protesting, as is his right.

Same guy who is protecting the terrorist network by vetoing the bill protecting the Saudis from being sullied with terrorism ties in US courts.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on September 24, 2016, 10:10:39 pm
He doesn't look Hispanic to me, and a male Hispanic would not generally blow away four women, two of them elderly, at a perfume counter; if he was mad at his girlfriend, he might stab her, but he sure wouldn't come in armed for bear and kill female bystanders.

REmember that the police are now describing ME-looking men as "Hispanics" - they did this in Orlando, San Bernardino and most recently in NYC.  Anything to protect the Muslims from their own actions - I guess Hispanics don't rate as high on the PC scale so they can casually be accused of terrorism with no fear of anybody's objecting.

Aside from that, I suspect that this was a Muslim "honor killing," and that the reason none of the names of the victims have been released is that at least one of the younger women has a Muslim name and was the sister or possibly even wife of the killer.

This is, of course, pure supposition, but to me it makes a lot more sense than other scenarios...

Recall that ME terrorists are slipping through the border guised as Hispanics.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: Applewood on September 24, 2016, 10:30:04 pm
Between my old eyes and a grainy photo, I couldn't be able to say for sure what the perp's ethnicity is.  Dark features are common among various ethnic groups, including those you would not expect.   One example:  We think Germans are all blond, blue eyed and fair complexioned, but my father's side of the family -- Austrian German -- had several members with  black or dark brown hair and dark complexions.  On the other hand, my Italian mother was blond.  The point is that we just don't know about this guy.  And with all this secrecy and the media's penchant for coverup and omitting facts, we may never know.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: austingirl on September 24, 2016, 11:02:04 pm
in the brief few moments during which reporters got to people exiting the mall (before the press was effectively gagged), someone who had been in the store said they heard him say what sounded like a girls's name.

Was the name Allahu?
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: livius on September 24, 2016, 11:23:57 pm
Yeah, I wondered about that too.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: TomSea on September 25, 2016, 02:24:18 am
https://twitter.com/KOMOnews

You have to go to twitter, this is not reported in the mainstream news yet but it is from KOMO news twitter,

Person of Interest arrested 30 minutes ago, I've heard more but I'll leave it at that.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: endicom on September 25, 2016, 02:56:31 am
The Gateway Pundit
 Jim Hoft
Sep 24th, 2016

Excerpt:

Here’s a photo of the shooter… His name is Arcan Cetin.
He is originally from Adana, Turkey.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/09/update-cascade-mall-shooter-captured-suspect-turkish-muslim-arcan-cetin/
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: sinkspur on September 25, 2016, 03:01:57 am
Turkey is  a US ally.  But I fully expect the hysterics over at Gateway to see something sinister in this.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: TomSea on September 25, 2016, 03:03:41 am
Oh, but Elizabeth Warren says the GOP is "making hate okay", so we should have hundreds of thousands more immigrants like this.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: endicom on September 25, 2016, 03:09:45 am
Turkey is  a US ally.  But I fully expect the hysterics over at Gateway to see something sinister in this.

C'mon, you just hate Hoft because he's gay.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: sinkspur on September 25, 2016, 03:16:12 am
C'mon, you just hate Hoft because he's gay.

John Nolte is gay.  I didn't know Hoft was gay too.

So Gateway is a gay publication?
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: endicom on September 25, 2016, 03:25:53 am
John Nolte is gay.  I didn't know Hoft was gay too.

So Gateway is a gay publication?

Hoft revealed that a while ago. According to Alexa, his traffic has increased since then: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/thegatewaypundit.com

I have no idea what that means, if anything.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: austingirl on September 25, 2016, 04:19:35 am
Not much on the news about the latest muslim attack. Supposedly he killed his girlfriend, her grandmother, and three other innocent people.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: endicom on September 25, 2016, 04:37:34 am
Not much on the news about the latest muslim attack. Supposedly he killed his girlfriend, her grandmother, and three other innocent people.


That sounds like a nutjob nutjob rather than a jihadi nutjob. But the story could change by the morn.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: ArneFufkin on September 25, 2016, 04:37:36 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtKtimGWAAAlAaP.jpg:large)

Did his family emigrate from the Hispanic section of Ankara?
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: endicom on September 25, 2016, 04:41:11 am

Did his family emigrate from the Hispanic section of Ankara?


"Forget it Jake, it's Cascade."
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: rangerrebew on September 25, 2016, 10:45:59 am
Alleged Burlington Shooter ID’d as Arcan Cetin, Immigrant from Turkey


by Joel B. Pollak24 Sep 20162,612
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Police have identified the alleged shooter in the Burlington mall attack as Arcan Cetin, 20, of Oak Harbor, Washington. Multiple reports indicate that Cetin was an immigrant from Turkey — not a citizen, but a legal permanent resident of the United States.

Cetin allegedly killed four women and one man at the Cascade Mall on Friday evening. Local NBC News affiliate KING-5 reports that he used three guns in the attack, all of which had been legally purchased by Cetin’s father, and which he stole.
Arcan Cetin (Washington State Patrol via USA Today)

Arcan Cetin (Washington State Patrol via USA Today)

Police arrested Cetin on Saturday evening as he walked down the street in Oak Harbor. He was reportedly unarmed at the time of his arrest. Law enforcement sources speculated that he may have acted from personal motives, given that his ex-girlfriend had once worked at the Macy’s store where the shooting took place. The investigation is still ongoing, however

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/24/arcan-cetin-burlington-shooter-id-immigrant-turkey/
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: livius on September 25, 2016, 10:56:37 am

That sounds like a nutjob nutjob rather than a jihadi nutjob. But the story could change by the morn.

The articles only say the police are speculating that it was domestic because his ex-girlfriend had once worked at Macy's, possibly in the same department. So she obviously wasn't there anymore or at the time of the shootings, and there didn't seem to be any Turkish or ME names among those of the dead that might have been connected with her. It's possible that she wasn't Turkish, of course, but just an American girl foolish enough to date a Muslim immigrant.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: mountaineer on September 25, 2016, 01:17:20 pm
They've arrested a ... wait for it ... Turkish Muslim! The Hispanics should be tired of being accused whenever a Muslim goes on a shooting spree.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: Rivergirl on September 25, 2016, 01:21:24 pm
The killer is from Turkey.  The first rule from the powers that be is DISINFORMATION.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on September 25, 2016, 01:21:33 pm
They've arrested a ... wait for it ... Turkish Muslim! The Hispanics should be tired of being accused whenever a Muslim goes on a shooting spree.

Pretty stupid one at that, as he was apprehended walking down the street?

We will read about his sad, sad story in days to come....
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: mountaineer on September 25, 2016, 01:27:12 pm
Man, 20, in Custody After Fatal Shooting of 5 People at Mall Outside Seattle
By CHRISTOPHER MELE and NIRAJ CHOKSHISEPT. 24, 2016


A 20-year-old man was taken into custody on Saturday night in connection with a shooting that killed five people on Friday at a mall north of Seattle, the authorities said.

The authorities, speaking at a news conference on Saturday night, identified the suspect as Arcan Cetin of Oak Harbor, Wash. He was taken into custody without incident around 6:30 p.m.

Officials said that they had received numerous tips about the gunman and that surveillance footage had helped locate him.

Lt. Michael Hawley of the Island County Sheriff’s Office said he had received a report that Mr. Cetin’s car was less than a mile from his office and when he headed that way, he found Mr. Cetin walking on the sidewalk. Mr. Cetin was carrying a satchel with a computer inside and was in a “zombielike” state when he was taken into custody, the lieutenant said.

Charges were pending, said the authorities, who said it was too early to say what led to the shootings.

On his Facebook page, Mr. Cetin listed his hometown as Adana, Turkey. Officials said he was a legal permanent resident of the United States. He graduated last year from Oak Harbor High School and listed himself on Facebook as a bagger at the Whidbey Island Commissary.   ...Rest of New York Times story (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/25/us/mall-shooting-washington-state.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0)
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: NavyCanDo on September 25, 2016, 03:01:17 pm
This is local news for me, so they break-in to our programming with breaking news way more often than necessary. No motive yet. No there was no ex-girlfriend there. One use to work in MACYS, but that was over a year ago, and she is now living in Pierce County.  There appears to be no connection with him and the victims.

It appeares he did not care if he was caught.That or he just didnt think this through.

He was arrested in the same clothes he was wearing at the mall, making it easy for the arresting officer to spot him.

He dropped the Riffle with his finger prints all over it.

He did not attempt to hide his face from mall cameras.

The serial number on the rifle, a Ruger 10/22 showed who it was purchased by. It was his dads rifle.

Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: Sanguine on September 25, 2016, 03:14:17 pm

That sounds like a nutjob nutjob rather than a jihadi nutjob. But the story could change by the morn.

Islam seems to accelerate the nutjob quotient.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: goatprairie on September 25, 2016, 03:25:20 pm
The killer is from Turkey.  The first rule from the powers that be is DISINFORMATION.
Another rule is to find a "reason" for the "legitimate" Muslim outrage at being profiled as being violent....or something. Somebody called him a bad name five years ago, and he had no choice but to go out and kill a bunch of people. HE WAS REACTING TO ISLAMOPHOBIA!!!!   Or  the media will trot out the religable TOO MANY GUNS OUT THERE GOING OFF FOR NO REASON  WHATSOEVER meme!!!! The media will figure out some way to mitigate his guilt.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: goatprairie on September 25, 2016, 03:32:20 pm
Islam seems to accelerate the nutjob quotient.
Islam is a religion that  attracts the most violent and stupid males in the world and okays and advocates violence against infidels. Naturally, a much higher pct. of Muslims will do violent things than people from other religions.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: SZonian on September 25, 2016, 04:09:15 pm
Man, 20, in Custody After Fatal Shooting of 5 People at Mall Outside Seattle
By CHRISTOPHER MELE and NIRAJ CHOKSHISEPT. 24, 2016


A 20-year-old man was taken into custody on Saturday night in connection with a shooting that killed five people on Friday at a mall north of Seattle, the authorities said.

The authorities, speaking at a news conference on Saturday night, identified the suspect as Arcan Cetin of Oak Harbor, Wash. He was taken into custody without incident around 6:30 p.m.

Officials said that they had received numerous tips about the gunman and that surveillance footage had helped locate him.

Lt. Michael Hawley of the Island County Sheriff’s Office said he had received a report that Mr. Cetin’s car was less than a mile from his office and when he headed that way, he found Mr. Cetin walking on the sidewalk. Mr. Cetin was carrying a satchel with a computer inside and was in a “zombielike” state when he was taken into custody, the lieutenant said.

Charges were pending, said the authorities, who said it was too early to say what led to the shootings.

On his Facebook page, Mr. Cetin listed his hometown as Adana, Turkey. Officials said he was a legal permanent resident of the United States. He graduated last year from Oak Harbor High School and listed himself on Facebook as a bagger at the Whidbey Island Commissary.   ...Rest of New York Times story (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/25/us/mall-shooting-washington-state.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0)
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[worked]...as a bagger at the Whidbey Island Commissary
This is a US Navy base...If the young Turk was going to go on a jihadi rampage, this would have been the place to do it.  I suspect this guy, being raised muslim, just didn't have the coping skills/mechanisms in place to deal with rejection from a female.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: Sanguine on September 25, 2016, 04:17:09 pm
Islam is a religion that  attracts the most violent and stupid males in the world and okays and advocates violence against infidels. Naturally, a much higher pct. of Muslims will do violent things than people from other religions.

Islam advocates violence.  Even those who may not be naturally inclined towards violence learn from their "prophet".
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: austingirl on September 25, 2016, 04:46:11 pm
They've arrested a ... wait for it ... Turkish Muslim! The Hispanics should be tired of being accused whenever a Muslim goes on a shooting spree.

I agree. If I were Hispanic I would be very vocal against the media for this "racial profiling."
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: austingirl on September 25, 2016, 04:49:16 pm
This is local news for me, so they break-in to our programming with breaking news way more often than necessary. No motive yet. No there was no ex-girlfriend there. One use to work in MACYS, but that was over a year ago, and she is now living in Pierce County.  There appears to be no connection with him and the victims.

It appeares he did not care if he was caught.That or he just didnt think this through.

He was arrested in the same clothes he was wearing at the mall, making it easy for the arresting officer to spot him.

He dropped the Riffle with his finger prints all over it.

He did not attempt to hide his face from mall cameras.

The serial number on the rifle, a Ruger 10/22 showed who it was purchased by. It was his dads rifle.

So the early report that he killed his girlfriend was wrong? A random act of murder/terror.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: TomSea on September 25, 2016, 05:02:56 pm
The gal he shot, poor girl, cancer survivor and only 16, last name is Lara which is a Hispanic surname often.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3806098/Washington-mall-shooting-suspect-arrested-manhunt-cancer-survivor-16-Macy-s-make-artist-revealed-five-shot-dead-shooter.html

http://pamelageller.com/2016/09/washington-shooter-connection-to-isis-say-subhanallah-glory-to-allah-10x.html/
http://pamelageller.com/2016/09/mall-shooter-arcan-cetin-supported-hillary-clinton-linked-to-page-supporting-isis.html/

Per social media, if these tweets and such are authentic, he appears to have had some radical ideas and even sent out a pro-Clinton message at one point.

Geller's blog is not always correct but the MSM may not report some of these things.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: mrclose on September 25, 2016, 07:03:29 pm
https://twitter.com/KOMOnews

You have to go to twitter, this is not reported in the mainstream news yet but it is from KOMO news twitter,

Person of Interest arrested 30 minutes ago, I've heard more but I'll leave it at that.

(http://i65.tinypic.com/5pjrqg.jpg)

(http://i67.tinypic.com/15p0ux2.jpg)

Israeli national news provided the above picture and said that he was a Turkish immigrant with a history of violence.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: goatprairie on September 25, 2016, 11:44:33 pm
So the early report that he killed his girlfriend was wrong? A random act of murder/terror.
Deliberate misdirection from the media. First reported as an "hispanic" despite the fact there's no way that could be positively determined from the photo. Then he was supposedly searching for his girl friend who had jilted him. Two falsehoods by the media.
Obviously, the media is trying its best to deflect immediate suspicion by the general public of yet another crazy jihadi slaughtering infidels.  Every time they get exposed, but they just keep on with it.
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: rangerrebew on September 26, 2016, 01:03:27 pm
Washington mall shooting suspect to be arraigned Monday

By Stephanie Elam, Alberto Moya, Carma Hassan, and Joe Sterling, CNN

Updated 8:09 AM ET, Mon September 26, 2016
Washington state mall shooting suspect in custody
 
Washington state mall shooting suspect in custody 01:44
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    The suspect has not yet been formally charged
    No link has been found yet between the suspect and victims, police say

"Correction: An earlier version of this story misstated the suspect's status in police custody. He has not been formally charged."

(CNN)The lone suspect held in the killing of five people at a Washington state mall will be arraigned Monday and authorities are working steadily to nail down a motive, a state patrol spokesman said Sunday.
Arcan Cetin, 20, is facing five counts of first-degree murder, according to Skagit County jail records. He will appear Monday in the county's district court.

Cetin, held in Skagit County jail on Sunday, has not been formally charged, according to Sgt. Mark Francis, a state patrol spokesman.

https://www.google.com/search?q=washington+mall+shooter+in+custody&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: mountaineer on September 26, 2016, 02:22:29 pm
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... One post on Cetin’s Tumblr page urged readers to repeat the phrase “Subhan Allah” (“Glory to God”) 10 times “and then reblog this, do not stop reblogging it.”

Police had no comment on the suspect’s religious beliefs.
More at L.A. Times (http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-washington-shooting-20160925-snap-story.html#nt=oft12aH-1li3)
Title: Re: 4 dead in Cascade Mall shooting; search for armed man underway [UPDATED: 5 dead, shooter captured]
Post by: rangerrebew on September 26, 2016, 04:42:42 pm
BREAKING: Meet #CascadeMallShooting Suspect @ArcanCetin, Muslim Turk, @HillaryClinton Supporter, @TheYoungTurks Fan

September 25, 2016 by Charles C. Johnson 3 Comments

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A Turkish Muslim has been arrested as a suspect in the Washington mall shooting that left 5 people dead yesterday.

The man, Arcan Cetin, is the only suspect. At time of writing, authorities said it is “too early” to rule out terrorism.

The GotNews & WeSearchr team did some research on the suspect: meet Turkish, Muslim, Hillary Clinton-supporting, Cenk Uygur & The Young Turks fan Arcan Cetin, who liked pictures of serial killers on Tumblr and reminded his friends of “Wrath.”

Cetin expressed support for Hillary Clinton:

http://gotnews.com/breaking-meet-cascademallshooting-suspect-arcancetin-muslim-turk-hillaryclinton-supporter-theyoungturks-fan/