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General Category => Elections 2024 => Topic started by: mystery-ak on June 01, 2023, 01:33:09 pm
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Trump plays with DeSantis name, again
June 1, 2023 | Melissa Fine
Former President Donald Trump launched a litany of Truth Social bombs against political rival Ron DeSantis on Wednesday, mocking the Florida governor’s supposed flip-flopping on the pronunciation of his name.
“Have you heard that ‘Rob’ DeSanctimonious wants to change his name, again,” Trump posted on Truth Social. “He is demanding that people call him DeeeSantis, rather than DaSantis.”
“Actually, I like ‘Da’ better, a nicer flow, so I am happy he is changing it,” he stated. “He gets very upset when people, including reporters, don’t pronounce it correctly. Therefore, he shouldn’t mind, DeSanctimonious?”
The latest jab quickly made its way to Twitter, where “DeeeSantis” quickly picked up steam.
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https://www.bizpacreview.com/2023/06/01/trump-plays-with-desantis-name-again-1364150/
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Why? How will this get rid of Biden?
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If Trump only had the same zeal and innovative schitick with Biden.
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:facepalm2:
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OK
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I still don't get the "Rob" business, either. I don't care for calling Trump "Tumpy" or "Drumpf," and believe the "DeSanctimonious" appellation is beyond idiotic. Wouldn't it be something if the candidates - and WE - stuck to issues?
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I still don't get the "Rob" business, either. I don't care for calling Trump "Tumpy" or "Drumpf," and believe the "DeSanctimonious" appellation is beyond idiotic. Wouldn't it be something if the candidates - and WE - stuck to issues?
Recent hit piece ads by the Orange turd calling RDS Ron DeSalestax are especially offensive. I am hating Trump more and more by the day.
Biggest laugh will be when Tumpy realizes he just lost 1-3M fiscal conservative votes come 2024. Wonder how that works out for him.
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I still don't get the "Rob" business, either. I don't care for calling Trump "Tumpy" or "Drumpf," and believe the "DeSanctimonious" appellation is beyond idiotic. Wouldn't it be something if the candidates - and WE - stuck to issues?
Sadly, the only opponent who went after Tumpy with any veracity was Cruz back in '16. I am afraid perspective GOP POTUS candidates are afraid of him, based on what the POS Trump did to Cruz.
What I almost wish would happen is that all 10-20 get together and collaborate to destroy Trump. It could happen, but this level of scorched earth would almost insure a second Biden presidency.
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He equates these actions to intelligence and cleverness. No intellectual meat required.
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He equates these actions to intelligence and cleverness. No intellectual meat required.
Intellectual or Clever? Trump is neither. Just a high profile carnival barker who through some strange quirk of fate became powerful.
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And his fawners applaud him just like trained seals. The schtick is getting old real fast. Our republic is hemorrhaging and we desperately need leadership. Is he even capable?
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Intellectual or Clever? Trump is neither. Just a high profile carnival barker who through some strange quirk of fate became powerful.
He became powerful, and rich, primarily because he knows how to make a seductive presentation to potential marks. If one skims through his book, the Art of the Deal, that is essentially what his primary skillset boils down to.
In a word, he has charisma.
It worked in the real estate market, where he was able to woo back investors time after time, notwithstanding several huge failures that ended in bankruptcy, and it works in the political market, where he is able to woo supporters, notwithstanding his failure to actually produce results, including promised results.
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He became powerful, and rich, primarily because he knows how to make a seductive presentation to potential marks. If one skims through his book, the Art of the Deal, that is essentially what his primary skillset boils down to.
In a word, he has charisma.
It worked in the real estate market, where he was able to woo back investors time after time, notwithstanding several huge failures that ended in bankruptcy, and it works in the political market, where he is able to woo supporters, notwithstanding his failure to actually produce results, including promised results.
In a nicely worded narrative, you have perfectly defined a "con artist"
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Trump's increasingly childish behavior is detracting from what he truly ought to be doing.
If he is in fact interested in once again leading the nation, Trump ought to develop and articulate an agenda for the future and make the case for why the current Administration must be replaced.
Instead, he's playing in the mud and making a spectacle of himself.
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Trump's increasingly childish behavior is detracting from what he truly ought to be doing.
If he is in fact interested in once again leading the nation, Trump ought to develop and articulate an agenda for the future and make the case for why the current Administration must be replaced.
Instead, he's playing in the mud and making a spectacle of himself.
Dear Mr. Trump:
A few suggestions: Tell us why we should vote for you. List your accomplishments. Tell us what you would do if elected. Show us how you are a better choice than Biden. Remember that Biden, his party and his handlers are the ones destroying this country (as opposed to Ron DeSantis or Kaleigh McEnany, for example).
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Trump's increasingly childish behavior is detracting from what he truly ought to be doing.
If he is in fact interested in once again leading the nation, Trump ought to develop and articulate an agenda for the future and make the case for why the current Administration must be replaced.
Instead, he's playing in the mud and making a spectacle of himself.
He should also be articulating why he can be trusted to carry through on that agenda, despite the shortcomings of his first term.
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In a nicely worded narrative, you have perfectly defined a "con artist"
Yes.
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He should also be articulating why he can be trusted to carry through on that agenda, despite the shortcomings of his first term.
Yes what would he do different to actually have things like a border wall, immigration reforms and oh I don't know budget reforms where spending is controlled by working with Congress(if he managed to get elected and not lose both houses) to have laws passed instead of erasable EO's. Big talk is all well and good but permanent(more the EO) achievements are what matter. Oh and tell us about how you really really will choose the best people the next time around.
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Yes what would he do different to actually have things like a border wall, immigration reforms and oh I don't know budget reforms where spending is controlled by working with Congress(if he managed to get elected and not lose both houses) to have laws passed instead of erasable EO's. Big talk is all well and good but permanent(more the EO) achievements are what matter. Oh and tell us about how you really really will choose the best people the next time around.
:thumbsup:
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https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/trump-2024-shaping-up-to-be-even-dumber-than-trump-2020/
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https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/trump-2024-shaping-up-to-be-even-dumber-than-trump-2020/
From the article…
You know, America, if you wanted to see Trump hurling Don Rickles-style insults on another prime-time reality show, I’m sure some network or streaming service would be happy to organize that. How about we leave the presidency to the grown adults who actually want to do the work?
:yowsa: :yowsa:
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Dear Mr. Trump:
A few suggestions: Tell us why we should vote for you. List your accomplishments. Tell us what you would do if elected. Show us how you are a better choice than Biden. Remember that Biden, his party and his handlers are the ones destroying this country (as opposed to Ron DeSantis or Kaleigh McEnany, for example).
Dear Ms. @mountaineer :
A few suggestions: Venture beyond the bubble TBR is at risk of becoming and discover what Trump is actually doing. You'll be pleasantly surprised to hear, from the man himself, Trump's accomplishments and detailed plans for his next term in office. You may discover he is the choice to right this ship of state on day one, better than any other Republican running or Joe Biden. And speaking of Biden, you're sure to enjoy how Trump shreds the Biden administration from top to bottom with laser precision to wild applause from audiences. Maybe post a thread or two on what Donald Trump is doing and the policies he's proposing (as opposed to dragging the media-driven Kayleigh McEnamy story from thread to thread, for example).
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Team Trump
@TeamTrump
Some presidential candidates struggle to nail their message. Ron DeSantis is struggling to nail his NAME.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1664209065633882112/WDrS_NcX?format=jpg&name=small)
Dee-Santis or Deh-Santis? His team won't say
Some presidential candidates struggle to nail their message. Ron DeSantis is struggling to nail his NAME. In the early days of his campaign, DeSantis has gone back and forth between pronouncing his name Dee-Santis and Deh-Santis.
Why it matters: DeSantis' dissonance on how to say his name — for years an issue of confusion for his campaign teams — is a curiosity as many GOP leaders and donors wonder whether the Florida governor is ready for the scrutiny of a presidential campaign.
Asked the proper way to pronounce his name, DeSantis' campaign did not answer. The super PAC, Never Back Down, declined to say.
Flashback: Early in his political career, DeSantis, 44, appeared to use "Dee-Santis" more often — then began a slow and still-incomplete evolution to "Deh-Santis."
During the 2018 race for Florida governor, the candidate and his wife pronounced his name differently in his television ads: He said "Dee-Santis" in his first TV spot, and she said "Deh-Santis" in another.
When a reporter noted the differences, a campaign spokesperson at the time said the candidate "prefers 'Dee-Santis.' "
The dueling pronunciations have tripped up others. When DeSantis was sworn in for his second term as governor in January, Florida's chief justice pronounced his name "Dee-Santis" — and the governor repeated back, "Deh-Santis."
More: https://www.axios.com/2023/06/01/desantis-pronounce-his-name
10:22 AM · Jun 1, 2023
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From the article…
You know, America, if you wanted to see Trump hurling Don Rickles-style insults on another prime-time reality show, I’m sure some network or streaming service would be happy to organize that. How about we leave the presidency to the grown adults who actually want to do the work?
:yowsa: :yowsa:
:thumbsup:
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From the article…
You know, America, if you wanted to see Trump hurling Don Rickles-style insults on another prime-time reality show, I’m sure some network or streaming service would be happy to organize that. How about we leave the presidency to the grown adults who actually want to do the work?[/
Desantis has been going back and forth on the pronunciation of his own last name for years. If not for the entertainment industry's cancel culture, all of today's comedians would be having a field day with this. :yowsa:
It's either funny or sad as hell. The choice is yours.
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It’s easy to pronounce Trump’s name, just call him @sshole for short.
Seriously, how many grown men do you know who don't know how to pronounce their own last name?
DeSantis has been struggling with this for years. Why blame and insult Trump? :laugh:
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Dear Ms. mountaineer:
A few suggestions: Venture beyond the bubble TBR is at risk of becoming and discover what Trump is actually doing. You'll be pleasantly surprised to hear, from the man himself, Trump's accomplishments and detailed plans for his next term in office. You may discover he is the choice to right this ship of state on day one, better than any other Republican running or Joe Biden. And speaking of Biden, you're sure to enjoy how Trump shreds the Biden administration from top to bottom with laser precision to wild applause from audiences. Maybe post a thread or two on what Donald Trump is doing and the policies he's proposing (as opposed to dragging the media-driven Kayleigh McEnamy story from thread to thread, for example).
Gee, thanks for the sage advice.
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Dear Ms. @mountaineer :
A few suggestions: Venture beyond the bubble TBR is at risk of becoming and discover what Trump is actually doing. You'll be pleasantly surprised to hear, from the man himself, Trump's accomplishments and detailed plans for his next term in office. You may discover he is the choice to right this ship of state on day one, better than any other Republican running or Joe Biden. And speaking of Biden, you're sure to enjoy how Trump shreds the Biden administration from top to bottom with laser precision to wild applause from audiences. Maybe post a thread or two on what Donald Trump is doing and the policies he's proposing (as opposed to dragging the media-driven Kayleigh McEnamy story from thread to thread, for example).
:mauslaff:
Yeah, recycled promises to do the stuff he promised to do last time, but which he never did, coupled with brand new left-of-center promises to continue spending beyond our means, further impoverishing our children and grandchildren.
Wheee!
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From the article…
You know, America, if you wanted to see Trump hurling Don Rickles-style insults on another prime-time reality show, I’m sure some network or streaming service would be happy to organize that. How about we leave the presidency to the grown adults who actually want to do the work?
:yowsa: :yowsa:
If our founding fathers ever saw this guy running for President, they would freak out. They set up a system where GROWN ADULTS are supposed to be in charge.
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Gee, thanks for the sage advice.
My pleasure @mountaineer I'm always happy to help you. :beer:
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My pleasure mountaineer I'm always happy to help you. :beer:
I didn't say you did.
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And his fawners applaud him just like trained seals. The schtick is getting old real fast. Our republic is hemorrhaging and we desperately need leadership. Is he even capable?
Good question. At this point in time Trump is acting very childish and playing name games.
An ex-president who has gone off the rails. Not good for our Republic that's for sure.
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If our founding fathers ever saw this guy running for President, they would freak out.
Man, this is the truth @kevindavis007 Not in a million years would our founders have envisioned a 44 year old snotnosed wannabe who can't even tell us the correct pronunciation of his own last name would attempt such a feat.
Interesting times, indeed. :smokin:
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I'd recommend putting the paid political operative on ignore. It is an abuse of the forum to have people paid to promote lies have such access.
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I didn't say you did.
I can always hope, can't I @mountaineer ? happy77
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I certainly understand that @Right_in_Virginia Real Leadership catches this early and just changes his name from Drumpf to Trump.
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Gee, thanks for the sage advice.
I'm told Trump likes to communicate in hyperbole. If so, why should any of us believe a damn promise he makes? They're all just bluster/hyperbole that he doesn't mean for us too take literally anyway. In which case...how should we take them?
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I'd recommend putting the paid political operative on ignore. It is an abuse of the forum to have people paid to promote lies have such access.
The ignore feature is a wonderful thing!
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I'd recommend putting the paid political operative on ignore. It is an abuse of the forum to have people paid to promote lies have such access.
Silly little girl ..... You have access to everything I post. You can find it just as easily as I do ------ all you have to do is be able to handle the truth. Good luck @DB ----- I"ll be rooting for you. happy77
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Team Trump
@TeamTrump
Some presidential candidates struggle to nail their message. Ron DeSantis is struggling to nail his NAME.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1664209065633882112/WDrS_NcX?format=jpg&name=small)
Dee-Santis or Deh-Santis? His team won't say
Some presidential candidates struggle to nail their message. Ron DeSantis is struggling to nail his NAME. In the early days of his campaign, DeSantis has gone back and forth between pronouncing his name Dee-Santis and Deh-Santis.
Why it matters: DeSantis' dissonance on how to say his name — for years an issue of confusion for his campaign teams — is a curiosity as many GOP leaders and donors wonder whether the Florida governor is ready for the scrutiny of a presidential campaign.
Asked the proper way to pronounce his name, DeSantis' campaign did not answer. The super PAC, Never Back Down, declined to say.
Flashback: Early in his political career, DeSantis, 44, appeared to use "Dee-Santis" more often — then began a slow and still-incomplete evolution to "Deh-Santis."
During the 2018 race for Florida governor, the candidate and his wife pronounced his name differently in his television ads: He said "Dee-Santis" in his first TV spot, and she said "Deh-Santis" in another.
When a reporter noted the differences, a campaign spokesperson at the time said the candidate "prefers 'Dee-Santis.' "
The dueling pronunciations have tripped up others. When DeSantis was sworn in for his second term as governor in January, Florida's chief justice pronounced his name "Dee-Santis" — and the governor repeated back, "Deh-Santis."
More: https://www.axios.com/2023/06/01/desantis-pronounce-his-name
10:22 AM · Jun 1, 2023
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Man, this is the truth @kevindavis007 Not in a million years would our founders have envisioned a 44 year old snotnosed wannabe who can't even tell us the correct pronunciation of his own last name....
I think they'd be even more shocked by a 78 year old guy who has never read a complete book. They'd almost certainly have considered such a person unread, ill-educated, and wholly unqualified intellectually to be the President of the United States.
As far as DeSantis being "snotnosed", he is as old or older than were four of the five people responsible for the drafting of the Declaration of Independence. So I don't think they'd consider DeSantis' age to be a disqualifier.
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Man, this is the truth @kevindavis007 Not in a million years would our founders have envisioned a 44 year old snotnosed wannabe who can't even tell us the correct pronunciation of his own last name would attempt such a feat.
Interesting times, indeed. :smokin:
@Right_in_Virginia
I'm thinking of some old reality game show host they wouldn't like who is 78 years old.
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Silly little girl ..... You have access to everything I post. You can find it just as easily as I do ------ all you have to do is be able to handle the truth. Good luck @DB ----- I"ll be rooting for you. happy77
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Team Trump
@TeamTrump
Some presidential candidates struggle to nail their message. Ron DeSantis is struggling to nail his NAME.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1664209065633882112/WDrS_NcX?format=jpg&name=small)
10:22 AM · Jun 1, 2023
So the shoe does fit and you put it on by replying to it.
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Gee, thanks for the sage advice.
Isn't Sage a ...'aromatic' spice :whistle:
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@Right_in_Virginia
I'm thinking of some old reality game show host they wouldn't like who is 78 years old.
Are you seriously suggesting the American generation that survived the brutal attacks from the British Empire wouldn't be standing and cheering on Donald Trump? Good God, man, they'd be carrying Trump on their shoulders!!
Pull it together @kevindavis007 :laugh:
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So the shoe does fit and you put it on by replying to it.
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I don't know about your shoes @DB But, this 44 year old POTUS wannabe has struggled FOR YEARS with how to pronounce his own last name. Would you put this prowess in his "Leadership" or "Courage" column? 88devil
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Silly little girl ..... You have access to everything I post. You can find it just as easily as I do ------ all you have to do is be able to handle the truth. Good luck @DB ----- I"ll be rooting for you. happy77
OK, here's some truth.
How a person's name is pronounced is up to that person, and that person alone.
Who is Donald Trump or his campaign operatives like you—official or unofficial—to say otherwise? He says "DeSantis doesn't know how to pronounce his own name." Bullshit. I'm sorry. It's bullshit. DeSantis is the ONLY person who has the right to say how to pronounce his own name.
To go after a person's own name. That is the lowest of the low.
This is why I have said in the past that your beloved Donald Trump is going to have to die a natural death for our country to ever recover from the disaster he's wrought on our discourse. As long as he is able to utter such garbage, he's a threat to decency. How the HELL are we supposed to claw back this nation from the forces of evil that have run amok the past four years, partially with Trump's abetting, as long as he's sucking all the oxygen out of the room on low blows like this?
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OK, here's some truth.
How a person's name is pronounced is up to that person, and that person alone.
Who is Donald Trump or his campaign operatives like you—official or unofficial—to say otherwise? He says "DeSantis doesn't know how to pronounce his own name." Bullshit. I'm sorry. It's bullshit. DeSantis is the ONLY person who has the right to say how to pronounce his own name.
To go after a person's own name. That is the lowest of the low.
This is why I have said in the past that your beloved Donald Trump is going to have to die a natural death for our country to ever recover from the disaster he's wrought on our discourse. As long as he is able to utter such garbage, he's a threat to decency. How the HELL are we supposed to claw back this nation from the forces of evil that have run amok the past four years, partially with Trump's abetting, as long as he's sucking all the oxygen out of the room on low blows like this?
goopo
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I still don't get the "Rob" business, either. I don't care for calling Trump "Tumpy" or "Drumpf," and believe the "DeSanctimonious" appellation is beyond idiotic. Wouldn't it be something if the candidates - and WE - stuck to issues?
@mountaineer
"DeSanctimonious" IS an issue. If he will immediately turn around and stab the man in the back that saved his political career,what will he do to thee and me if he gets elected to be our next President?
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Team Trump
@TeamTrump
Some presidential candidates struggle to nail their message. Ron DeSantis is struggling to nail his NAME.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1664209065633882112/WDrS_NcX?format=jpg&name=small)
10:22 AM · Jun 1, 2023
@Right_in_Virginia
How about "Untrustworthy back-stabbing bitch"?
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@mountaineer
"DeSanctimonious" IS an issue. If he will immediately turn around and stab the man in the back that saved his political career,what will he do to thee and me if he gets elected to be our next President?
@sneakypete What do you consider more sacred and less worthy of a stab in the back:
A: A political statement
B: VOWS to your Wife who just gave birth to your Son?
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Here's THE truth ---- that which you can't seem to wrap your brain around @jmyrlefuller: The person who owns the name, and who alone decides how to pronounce it, is the one who is confused, and has been for years---coming up as a minor issue in every campaign RDS has been in.
DeSantis, alone, is the baboon who can't make up his mind. This is pretty damn funny (in a sad sort of way) --- so you really can't blame folks for commenting and even poking fun. Come to think of it, this laughter may be the only thing DeSantis has actually earned, alone. :laugh:
Pro tip: Don't try to be clever; it's not in you wheelhouse. ☮️
How do you pronounce "Amanda"? I keep forgetting.
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@mountaineer
"DeSanctimonious" IS an issue. If he will immediately turn around and stab the man in the back that saved his political career,what will he do to thee and me if he gets elected to be our next President?
What a crock of crappola. Again, and it's been pointed out to you quite a few times @sneakypete Trump did NOT save DeSantis' political career, nor did he stab him in the back. Trump lies that keep getting repeated is more like it.
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That was a low blow @Jack Russell , incidentally My name is Mark
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That was a low blow @Jack Russell , incidentally My name is Mark
Well. since we are all now on a first name basis here my name is Rob
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You can call me Suzzy. happy77
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You can call me Suzzy. happy77
Call me Ed. happy77
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Are you seriously suggesting the American generation that survived the brutal attacks from the British Empire wouldn't be standing and cheering on Donald Trump? Good God, man, they'd be carrying Trump on their shoulders!!
Pull it together @kevindavis007 :laugh:
@Right_in_Virginia
Oh please, our founders from Washington to Jefferson would laugh at a guy like Trump. They wanted people who are either statesmen or stateswomen to be President. Not a**clowns. Time to make decency great again.
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When my mom was three months pregnant with me and my twin sister she fell into a coma. When she awoke Six months later she found out that my uncle had named us. He called my sister DeNise and me DeNephew.
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When my mom was three months pregnant with me and my twin sister she fell into a coma. When she awoke Six months later she found out that my uncle had named us. He called my sister DeNise and me DeNephew.
:silly:
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This is such transparent redonkulous bullshit...
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Call me Ed. happy77
You can call me Al.
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Dear Ms. @mountaineer :
A few suggestions: Venture beyond the bubble TBR is at risk of becoming and discover what Trump is actually doing.
This is what Trump is actually doing - ridiculing other candidates' names:
Team Trump
@TeamTrump
Some presidential candidates struggle to nail their message. Ron DeSantis is struggling to nail his NAME.
And we're supposed to be on board with this sophomoric crap?
You may discover he is the choice to right this ship of state on day one, better than any other Republican running or Joe Biden.
What we already discovered is that Trump ran up more debt in four years than any other President in US History. We discovered that he was in bed with the GOP Establishment from Day One. And we discovered that draining the Swamp was never on his agenda.
And speaking of Biden, you're sure to enjoy how Trump shreds the Biden administration from top to bottom with laser precision to wild applause from audiences.
It is because of Trump that we have a Biden Administration. Nothing there to applaud.
Maybe post a thread or two on what Donald Trump is doing and the policies he's proposing
Been doing that for years now. (Fauci, taxpayer funding for Planned Parenthood, not building a wall, allowing corruption to thrive at the Justice Department, doing NOTHING to stop corrupt elections, and debt, debt, and more debt, etc.) And for years, you have ignored every single bit of it. Instead, you deny reality and instead invent some false reality where those who have pointed out every liberal thing Trump has done over the past three decades somehow have never observed what Trump has been doing and the policies he has proposed.
(as opposed to dragging the media-driven Kayleigh McEnamy story from thread to thread, for example).
You do realize that Trump is the one responsible for the Kayleigh story. Trump and Trump alone. He did it. He said it. He went after one of his most talented and loyal employees. And he did it in a way where he attacked her for stating the truth. And the only ones out there that are worse than Trump are the ones who defend his childish immature behavior, actions, and lies.
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Desantis has been going back and forth on the pronunciation of his own last name for years.
Trump has been going back and forth on his political positions for years.
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Are you seriously suggesting the American generation that survived the brutal attacks from the British Empire wouldn't be standing and cheering on Donald Trump?
That is a 100% certainty. I cannot think of a single belief our Founding Fathers held that Donald Trump is on board with. And neither can you (without lying).
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That was a low blow @Jack Russell , incidentally My name is Mark
According to your avatar, your name definitely is not 'Mark'.
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I still don't get the "Rob" business, either. I don't care for calling Trump "Tumpy" or "Drumpf," and believe the "DeSanctimonious" appellation is beyond idiotic. Wouldn't it be something if the candidates - and WE - stuck to issues?
has the donny ever.....stuck to the issues??? seriously
dreaming the impossible dream is highly contraindicated AT THIS POINT in the game
dince the days of Lyin Ted and Low ENergy Jeb the DOnny has been acting the ssix year old he told his biographer he was still "like"
i know people forget...these things....given the tsunami of tripe that the mans spewed over the years
HES A MALINGANT NARCISSIST. Tthis is part of what THEY DO...ALWAYS..
hes not going to get a miracle cure because anyone wants him to ACT like a normal.... well individuated.. .mature man.
things always end rather poorly for such people
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@sneakypete What do you consider more sacred and less worthy of a stab in the back:
A: A political statement
B: VOWS to your Wife who just gave birth to your Son?
@corbe
WTF??
When did this become an "either/or" game?
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What a crock of crappola. Again, and it's been pointed out to you quite a few times @sneakypete Trump did NOT save DeSantis' political career,
@libertybele
Yeah,he did.
nor did he stab him in the back
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You are right about that. It was DeSantis that stabbed Trump in the back.
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This is what Trump is actually doing - ridiculing other candidates' names:
And we're supposed to be on board with this sophomoric crap?
@Hoodat
You are right,of course. What we need is a President with manners. One who will drop to his knees and blow any Globalist with a bag of cash.
Good of you to admit it.
What we already discovered is that Trump ran up more debt in four years than any other President in US History.
Yeah,and he did all that all by his widdle self!
GROW THE BLEEP UP!
We discovered that he was in bed with the GOP Establishment from Day One.
Yeah,that must be why you and all the other "Party People" like him so much,right?
And we discovered that draining the Swamp was never on his agenda.
It is because of Trump that we have a Biden Administration. Nothing there to applaud.
The FIEND! And he had a whole 4 years to overturn what the DNC and the RINO's have been creating for decades,with nothing else to occupy him! </S>
What we need is someone with manners,like another Bush in the WH!
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That is a 100% certainty. I cannot think of a single belief our Founding Fathers held that Donald Trump is on board with. And neither can you (without lying).
@Hoodat
Not only that,but I bet Original Sin is his fault too,huh?
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@Hoodat
Not only that,but I bet Original Sin is his fault too,huh?
I see you couldn't come up with one either.
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@libertybele
Yeah,he did.
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You are right about that. It was DeSantis that stabbed Trump in the back.
DeSantis was elected to congress in 2012. And won re election. Also, beat his opponent in 2022 by 20 points while Trump endorsed candidates underperformed. How did Trump save his career? I'm curious what over active imagination you have to come up with that?
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DeSantis was elected to congress in 2012. And won re election. Also, beat his opponent in 2022 by 20 points while Trump endorsed candidates underperformed. How did Trump save his career? I'm curious what over active imagination you have to come up with that?
@LMAO
It is truly rare to see someone THAT freaking ignorant on these boards. Trump came in and campaigned for DeSantis,and that took him from being a losing candidate to the winning candidate. DeSantis even thanked him,IIRC.
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@LMAO
It is truly rare to see someone THAT freaking ignorant on these boards. Trump came in and campaigned for DeSantis,and that took him from being a losing candidate to the winning candidate. DeSantis even thanked him,IIRC.
No evidence of that. Nobody can say for sure that Trump brought Ron DeSantis to victory.
But here’s what we do know. Trump campaigns for him when he ran for governor the first time, and he won, but by a smaller margin
Ron DeSantis doesn’t have Trump campaign for him when he runs in 2022 and he wins by nearly 20 points
So, based on your reasoning, Ron DeSantis did better without Donald Trump’s help
In the 2022 midterms, Donald Trump endorsed candidates under performed. The one big bright spot was Ron DeSantis is 20 point victory.
So this idea that Ron DeSantis was ready to lose until Donald Trump came and rescued him is a fantasy created by MAGAs to convince themselves of Donald Trump’s electoral prowess
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No evidence of that. Nobody can say for sure that Trump brought Ron DeSantis to victory.
But here’s what we do know. Trump campaigns for him when he ran for governor the first time, and he won, but by a smaller margin
Ron DeSantis doesn’t have Trump campaign for him when he runs in 2022 and he wins by nearly 20 points
So, based on your reasoning, Ron DeSantis did better without Donald Trump’s help
Exactly. That last point is the crucial one: DeSantis did much better without Trump's supposed "help". That seems to be a common theme.
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Exactly. That last point is the crucial one: DeSantis did much better without Trump's supposed "help". That seems to be a common theme.
Our own senator here in Wi avoided, as much as he could, the Trump issue in 2022 and won reelection. His opponent at the time, Mandela Barnes, seemed to avoid tying Johnson to Trump, also
Trump is just not the king maker his MAGAs have convinced themselves he is. The evidence is against them
Outside the primaries, Trump and his candidates are not election victors
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@mountaineer
"DeSanctimonious" IS an issue. If he will immediately turn around and stab the man in the back that saved his political career,what will he do to thee and me if he gets elected to be our next President?
SOTSDD
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SOTSDD
Again, again. *****rollingeyes*****
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No evidence of that. Nobody can say for sure that Trump brought Ron DeSantis to victory.
But here’s what we do know. Trump campaigns for him when he ran for governor the first time, and he won, but by a smaller margin
Ron DeSantis doesn’t have Trump campaign for him when he runs in 2022 and he wins by nearly 20 points
So, based on your reasoning, Ron DeSantis did better without Donald Trump’s help
In the 2022 midterms, Donald Trump endorsed candidates under performed. The one big bright spot was Ron DeSantis is 20 point victory.
So this idea that Ron DeSantis was ready to lose until Donald Trump came and rescued him is a fantasy created by MAGAs to convince themselves of Donald Trump’s electoral prowess
What we do know is that DeSantis won the first time around by less than 1% to a druggie and was found with a prostitute -- DeSantis had to ask for a recount -- so that was with DJT's help.
DeSantis' second time around without DJT he won areas like Miami-Dade county that hasn't been won by a Republican in years. It has a heavily Hispanic population. He won by a landslide - without DJT.
Those are the facts @sneakypete He did it WITHOUT the rich rude Orange man! So with that being stated (again) he didn't stab him in the back. Not even close. Trumpian talking points.
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What we do know is that DeSantis won the first time around by less than 1% to a druggie and was found with a prostitute -- DeSantis had to ask for a recount -- so that was with DJT's help.
DeSantis' second time around without DJT he won areas like Miami-Dade county that hasn't been won by a Republican in years. It has a heavily Hispanic population.
Those are the facts @sneakypete He did it WITHOUT the rich rude Orange man! So with that being stated (again) he didn't stab him in the back. Not even close. Trumpian talking points.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Right over your head...
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I think the argument is that Trump helped DeSantis win the 2018 primary, not the general election. No reason to believe that a Trump endorsement would have been the deciding factor to someone voting for DeSantis who otherwise might have voted for Gilliam.
The GOP primary is obviously a different story. Trump endorsed DeSantis in December, but DeSantis still trailed substantially in polling until a late-June debate between he and the GOP frontrunner. After that debate, DeSantis built a solid lead and won the nomination by double digits.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Florida_gubernatorial_election#:~:text=Republican%20U.S.%20Representative%20Ron%20DeSantis,were%20held%20on%20August%2028.
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I think the argument is that Trump helped DeSantis win the 2018 primary, not the general election. No reason to believe that a Trump endorsement would have been the deciding factor to someone voting for DeSantis who otherwise might have voted for Gilliam.
The GOP primary is obviously a different story. Trump endorsed DeSantis in December, but DeSantis still trailed substantially in polling until a late-June debate between he and the GOP frontrunner. After that debate, DeSantis built a solid lead and won the nomination by double digits.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Florida_gubernatorial_election#:~:text=Republican%20U.S.%20Representative%20Ron%20DeSantis,were%20held%20on%20August%2028.
Which suggests that it wasn’t Trumps influence, but DeSantis’ performance, that won that election as well.
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I think the argument is that Trump helped DeSantis win the 2018 primary, not the general election. No reason to believe that a Trump endorsement would have been the deciding factor to someone voting for DeSantis who otherwise might have voted for Gilliam.
The GOP primary is obviously a different story. Trump endorsed DeSantis in December, but DeSantis still trailed substantially in polling until a late-June debate between he and the GOP frontrunner. After that debate, DeSantis built a solid lead and won the nomination by double digits.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Florida_gubernatorial_election#:~:text=Republican%20U.S.%20Representative%20Ron%20DeSantis,were%20held%20on%20August%2028.
NOOOO! That’s going to ruin their main talking point! DeSantis owes Trump. Trump breathed life into DeSantis’ political lungs. He should probably pay with his firstborn or something. *****rollingeyes*****
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NOOOO! That’s going to ruin their main talking point! DeSantis owes Trump. Trump breathed life into DeSantis’ political lungs. He should probably pay with his firstborn or something. *****rollingeyes*****
@debrawiest
Trump being powerless must be the reason he terrifies all you "polite Miss Manners types" into having hissy-fits every time his name is mentioned,huh?
Come on,admit it,what you really want is JEB to run so you can get that warm "I've been here before" feeling in the pit of your stomachs,isn't it?
A dose of JEB would fix you all right up and bring you back to your "happy spot".
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@debrawiest
Trump being powerless must be the reason he terrifies all you "polite Miss Manners types" into having hissy-fits every time his name is mentioned,huh?
Come on,admit it,what you really want is JEB to run so you can get that warm "I've been here before" feeling in the pit of your stomachs,isn't it?
A dose of JEB would fix you all right up and bring you back to your "happy spot".
@sneakypete
(https://i.imgflip.com/7mvpkc.jpg)
Truth hurts, don't it.
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@sneakypete
(https://i.imgflip.com/7mvpkc.jpg)
Truth hurts, don't it.
@Kamaji
Doesn't hurt me at all,but I don't work 24/7 trying to slam "Rude Orange Man".
Like I wrote earlier,what would make you people the happiest would be a chance to vote for JEB because another Bush would make you feel right at home.
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@Kamaji
Doesn't hurt me at all,but I don't work 24/7 trying to slam "Rude Orange Man".
Like I wrote earlier,what would make you people the happiest would be a chance to vote for JEB because another Bush would make you feel right at home.
Ahh, so you prefer to be lied to. Ok. You do know that makes you nothing more than a garden variety liberal.
Right-o chief.
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@debrawiest
Trump being powerless must be the reason he terrifies all you "polite Miss Manners types" into having hissy-fits every time his name is mentioned,huh?
Come on,admit it,what you really want is JEB to run so you can get that warm "I've been here before" feeling in the pit of your stomachs,isn't it?
A dose of JEB would fix you all right up and bring you back to your "happy spot".
Here’s the thing, Pete. I CHOOSE not to worship at the feet of ANY politician. Sorry if that offends you.
(Actually, I’m not sorry if that offends you. Take offense if you must.)
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@debrawiest
Trump being powerless must be the reason he terrifies all you "polite Miss Manners types" into having hissy-fits every time his name is mentioned,huh?
Come on,admit it,what you really want is JEB to run so you can get that warm "I've been here before" feeling in the pit of your stomachs,isn't it?
A dose of JEB would fix you all right up and bring you back to your "happy spot".
“Look mom, another strawman”
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Ahh, so you prefer to be lied to. Ok. You do know that makes you nothing more than a garden variety liberal.
I see no difference between a whacked out liberal screaming "TRUMP" as a response to every rational argument given and a Trump sycophant yelling "JEB" to every rational argument given.
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Ahh, so you prefer to be lied to. Ok. You do know that makes you nothing more than a garden variety liberal.
Right-o chief.
@Kamaji
Desperation is never pretty.
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“Look mom, another strawman”
@LMAO
The truth is often painful,so don't let it worry you.
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I see no difference between a whacked out liberal screaming "TRUMP" as a response to every rational argument given and a Trump sycophant yelling "JEB" to every rational argument given.
@Hoodat
"Sycophant"?????? He is nothing more than the least evil of all possible choices,and THAT makes me a "sycophant"?
As for the "rational argument given" BS,I haven't seen one yet. All I see is hatred and jealousy because he is rich as well as rude.
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@sneakypete
No one here supports Jeb. No one. He is equally reviled by us all. So enough with your preposterous strawman already. Why not listen to what is actually being said instead of making up some absurd BS in its place?
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@LMAO
The truth is often painful,so don't let it worry you.
I’ve been on this site for several years, and I have not seen one person ever give any kind of support to Jeb or the likes of him. You bring him up more than anybody else on this forum
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@sneakypete
No one here supports Jeb. No one. He is equally reviled by us all. So enough with your preposterous strawman already. Why not listen to what is actually being said instead of making up some absurd BS in its place?
@Hoodat
"ABSURD"????
WHAT could be more absurd than DeSantis,who is a PROVEN backstabber,as our next President?
IF he is elected,the ONLY American he will serve is himself.
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I’ve been on this site for several years, and I have not seen one person ever give any kind of support to Jeb or the likes of him. You bring him up more than anybody else on this forum
@LMAO
Well,I think the Anybody but Trump Brigade needs an alternative in case the globalists buy DeSantis off at the last minute.
He is CLEARLY a whore for hire.
Of course he is YOUR whore,so you don't give a damn as long as he takes out "Rude Orange Man".
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@Hoodat
"ABSURD"????
WHAT could be more absurd than DeSantis,who is a PROVEN backstabber,as our next President?
IF he is elected,the ONLY American he will serve is himself.
Do you have a link to a signed statement of some sort, or a public proclamation by DeSantis, that he wouldn’t run against Trump in an open primary?
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Do you have a link to a signed statement of some sort, or a public proclamation by DeSantis, that he wouldn’t run against Trump in an open primary?
@LMAO
Uhhh,he IS running against Trump for the Presidency. Is he not an announced candidate?
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@LMAO
Uhhh,he IS running against Trump for the Presidency. Is he not an announced candidate?
So anyone who runs in a GOP primary is automatically backstabbing Trump???
You go with that argument :rolling:
Trump is not entitled to the nomination
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So anyone who runs in a GOP primary is automatically backstabbing Trump???
You go with that argument :rolling:
Trump is not entitled to the nomination
:mauslaff:
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WHAT could be more absurd than DeSantis,who is a PROVEN backstabber
Proven? You have been asked numerous times to show an instance where DeSantis stabbed someone in the back, and the only thing you could come up with was the idiotic explanation that Trump had offered DeSantis the VP slot. Proven? Yeah, right. Just more lies, repeated again and again.
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Do you have a link to a signed statement of some sort, or a public proclamation by DeSantis, that he wouldn’t run against Trump in an open primary?
But . . . but . . . but Trump promised DeSantis that he'd make him his VP. Never mind that Trump would be forfeiting Florida's 30 electoral votes in the process.
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Proven? You have been asked numerous times to show an instance where DeSantis stabbed someone in the back, and the only thing you could come up with was the idiotic explanation that Trump had offered DeSantis the VP slot. Proven? Yeah, right. Just more lies, repeated again and again.
Their argument, although a weak one, is because Trump did a campaign stop for him in 2018 when he ran the first time, DeSantis owes Trump
So using their own argument, because DeSantis campaigned for Trump in Florida in 2020 and repaid any assumed debt from 2018, Trump needs to step aside so DeSantis can run for President
That’s how absurd their argument is
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Their argument, although a weak one, is because Trump did a campaign stop for him in 2018 when he ran the first time, DeSantis owes Trump
So using their own argument, because DeSantis campaigned for Trump in Florida in 2020 and repaid any assumed debt from 2018, Trump needs to step aside so DeSantis can run for President
That’s how absurd their argument is
And that campaign stop didn't actually do anything positive for DeSantis - he was still behind his opponent in that race after Trump's campaign stop, and didn't move ahead of his opponent until after they'd debated. So even back then, Trump was not a net contributor to DeSantis - DeSantis own performance is what got him over the finish line.
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But . . . but . . . but Trump promised DeSantis that he'd make him his VP. Never mind that Trump would be forfeiting Florida's 30 electoral votes in the process.
Not long ago, SP was making the argument that Trump should get another four years followed by 8 years of DeSantis. Now, DeSantis is a backstabbing bitch :shrug:
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Lock this thread. @mystery-ak @Cyber Liberty
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And that campaign stop didn't actually do anything positive for DeSantis - he was still behind his opponent in that race after Trump's campaign stop, and didn't move ahead of his opponent until after they'd debated. So even back then, Trump was not a net contributor to DeSantis - DeSantis own performance is what got him over the finish line.
DeSantis has every right to try for the GOP nomination and make his case just as much as Trump. Any Republican has the same right.
This “Trump is owed” belief is BS
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DeSantis has every right to try for the GOP nomination and make his case just as much as Trump. Any Republican has the same right.
This “Trump is owed” belief is BS
Absolutely.
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Lock this thread. @mystery-ak @Cyber Liberty
Why?
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Lock this thread. @mystery-ak @Cyber Liberty
Maybe. I've been avoiding this thread like the Plague.
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DeSantis has every right to try for the GOP nomination and make his case just as much as Trump. Any Republican has the same right.
This “Trump is owed” belief is BS
In my view, Trump has to re-earn the nomination and so far he isn't making a good case on why he should be the 2024 GOP Nominee.
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It has devolved into an ad nauseam back and forth that has nothing to do with the OP. @Cyber Liberty @mystery-ak
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It has devolved into an ad nauseam back and forth that has nothing to do with the OP. @Cyber Liberty @mystery-ak
We have another 409 days until DeSantis wins the nomination. And 410 more days until Trump announces his third party candidacy.
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In my view, Trump has to re-earn the nomination and so far he isn't making a good case on why he should be the 2024 GOP Nominee.
:thumbsup:
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@Kamaji
Like I wrote earlier,what would make you people the happiest would be a chance to vote for JEB because another Bush would make you feel right at home.
@sneakypete
I don't see literally anyone, anywhere, urging Yeb to run again. Yeb and that entire wing of the party learned in 2016 that their views on immigration were out of step with the grassroots. That was the key issue that killed them in 2016, and it is even more true today.
Plenty of folks here are on board with DeSantis, who is both far more combative with the left, and far more conservative, than Yeb ever was.
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@sneakypete
I don't see literally anyone, anywhere, urging Yeb to run again. Yeb and that entire wing of the party learned in 2016 that their views on immigration were out of step with the grassroots. That was the key issue that killed them in 2016, and it is even more true today.
Plenty of folks here are on board with DeSantis, who is both far more combative with the left, and far more conservative, than Yeb ever was.
Exactly!
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So anyone who runs in a GOP primary is automatically backstabbing Trump???
@LMAO
Of course not. AFAIK,only DeSantis is a backstabbing power mad little bitch.
I SUSPECTED that most people would be smart enough to recognize this basic truth. My apologies for forgetting about you.
You go with that argument :rolling:
Trump is not entitled to the nomination
Causen he bees Orange and Rude,but mostly because he is rich,right?
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:mauslaff:
Kamaji
Yeah,that was a brilliant little comment,huh?
Does your little "Ah hates Rich,Orange,Rude people,but mostly rich people club" have a secret password or handshake?
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Proven? You have been asked numerous times to show an instance where DeSantis stabbed someone in the back, and the only thing you could come up with was the idiotic explanation that Trump had offered DeSantis the VP slot. Proven? Yeah, right. Just more lies, repeated again and again.
@Hoodat
You can add confusion over this to your list of confusions,bubba.
What Trump did was campaign for him when he was running for office and losing HUGELY,and Trumps campaign and the money he spent helping DeSantis was what got DeSantis elected.
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But . . . but . . . but Trump promised DeSantis that he'd make him his VP. Never mind that Trump would be forfeiting Florida's 30 electoral votes in the process.
@Hoodat
You are full of Biden,bubba.
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I SUSPECTED that most people would be smart enough to recognize this basic truth.
Most people recognize that you have been unable to cite even a hint of evidence backing up this claim, even after being prompted to do so dozens of times.
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Their argument, although a weak one, is because Trump did a campaign stop for him in 2018 when he ran the first time, DeSantis owes Trump
So using their own argument, because DeSantis campaigned for Trump in Florida in 2020 and repaid any assumed debt from 2018, Trump needs to step aside so DeSantis can run for President
That’s how absurd their argument is
@LMAO
DeSantis saved Trump??????
Where do you people in the "He man Billionaire Haters Club" come up with this crap?
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And that campaign stop didn't actually do anything positive for DeSantis - he was still behind his opponent in that race after Trump's campaign stop, and didn't move ahead of his opponent until after they'd debated. So even back then, Trump was not a net contributor to DeSantis - DeSantis own performance is what got him over the finish line.
@Kamaji
You should have led off with "Once upon a time......"
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Not long ago, SP was making the argument that Trump should get another four years followed by 8 years of DeSantis. Now, DeSantis is a backstabbing bitch :shrug:
@LMAO
FINALLY,something true about me!
In my defense,that was back when I still thought DeSantis had a sense of honor.
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@Hoodat
You are full of Biden,bubba.
Wasn't it you that posted this?
@Hoodat
Announcing he is COMPETING with Trump for the top spot isn't stabbing him in the back after the "name recognition boost" that Trump gave him by announcing he would pick him for VP?
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DeSantis has every right to try for the GOP nomination and make his case just as much as Trump. Any Republican has the same right.
This “Trump is owed” belief is BS
@LMAO
It is true IF you have a sense of honor.
And "Yes,I DO know we are discussing politics,and a sense of honor is a rare thing indeed,but we can always hope for it to appear,and be disappointed when it doesn't.
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In my view, Trump has to re-earn the nomination and so far he isn't making a good case on why he should be the 2024 GOP Nominee.
@kevindavis007
Ok,but then again,you don't owe him anything.
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@LMAO
DeSantis saved Trump??????
Where do you people in the "He man Billionaire Haters Club" come up with this crap?
Do you understand the concept of strawman arguments and they are a weak form of debating? I never argued the RDS "saved" Trump
You've been asked several times were RDS stabbed Trump in the back yet still provided nothing. Just because Trump and you believe it doesn't make it so
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We have another 409 days until DeSantis wins the nomination. And 410 more days until Trump announces his third party candidacy.
@Hoodat
And I am beginning to doubt it makes any difference with each passing day. The Dim "steal the vote machine" is already operating at full blast,and unless the alleged Republicans get some spine grafts,nothing is going to be done to prevent them from stealing another election,REGARDLESS of who is running against them.
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Most people recognize that you have been unable to cite even a hint of evidence backing up this claim, even after being prompted to do so dozens of times.
You just have to say "I give up" when it comes to some people.
I have a relative who still believes Trump was calling those Charlottesville Neo NAZI's "very fine people" despite being shown the full transcript of what Trump said.
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@sneakypete
I don't see literally anyone, anywhere, urging Yeb to run again. Yeb and that entire wing of the party learned in 2016 that their views on immigration were out of step with the grassroots. That was the key issue that killed them in 2016, and it is even more true today.
Plenty of folks here are on board with DeSantis, who is both far more combative with the left, and far more conservative, than Yeb ever was.
@Maj. Bill Martin
I don't think they are capable of learning anything .
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@Kamaji
You should have led off with "Once upon a time......"
Not when the facts justify the statement. Trump is a loser, period. He didn't help DeSantis - he just likes to lie to people like you, who swallow his lies without question - to assuage his own ego.
The fact of the matter is, DeSantis was behind his opponent when Trump visited, and he remained behind his opponent after Trump's visit, and until he had a debate with his opponent, at which point he moved into the lead.
Trump did not do diddly-squat for DeSantis. So even by your own bizarre set of rules, DeSantis doesn't owe Trump a thing. The only backstabbing going on is Trump stabbing DeSantis in the back.
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@sneakypete
No, because nobody does, including Donald Trump. Let the games begin!
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Not when the facts justify the statement. Trump is a loser, period. He didn't help DeSantis - he just likes to lie to people like you, who swallow his lies without question - to assuage his own ego.
The fact of the matter is, DeSantis was behind his opponent when Trump visited, and he remained behind his opponent after Trump's visit, and until he had a debate with his opponent, at which point he moved into the lead.
Trump did not do diddly-squat for DeSantis. So even by your own bizarre set of rules, DeSantis doesn't owe Trump a thing. The only backstabbing going on is Trump stabbing DeSantis in the back.
@Kamaji
ROFLMAO! DeSantis is now a freaking VICTIM??????
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@Kamaji
ROFLMAO! DeSantis is now a freaking VICTIM??????
By your argument. If you don't like your arguments being turned against you, then perhaps you should STFU and stop posting such ridiculous garbage.
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@Hoodat
And I am beginning to doubt it makes any difference with each passing day. The Dim "steal the vote machine" is already operating at full blast,and unless the alleged Republicans get some spine grafts,nothing is going to be done to prevent them from stealing another election,REGARDLESS of who is running against them.
That's what happens when you follow the Swamp's recommendations by appointing an Establishment hack like William Barr to lead the Justice Dept.
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By your argument. If you don't like your arguments being turned against you, then perhaps you should STFU and stop posting such ridiculous garbage.
@Kamaji
Is that right,Comrade? Nobody in your Brave New DeSantis World will have the right to question our Master and Maximum Leader?
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That's what happens when you follow the Swamp's recommendations by appointing an Establishment hack like William Barr to lead the Justice Dept.
@Hoodat
I am sure that is a part of it,but only a VERY minor part.
The Billionaire Boys Club of internationalists is huge,and they have a LOT of flunkies. If they need more,they don't even have to buy them because it's cheaper to rent.
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@Kamaji
Is that right,Comrade? Nobody in your Brave New DeSantis World will have the right to question our Master and Maximum Leader?
There's a lot irony packed in there...
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Some help should arrive soon @sneakypete
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@Hoodat
And I am beginning to doubt it makes any difference with each passing day. The Dim "steal the vote machine" is already operating at full blast,and unless the alleged Republicans get some spine grafts,nothing is going to be done to prevent them from stealing another election,REGARDLESS of who is running against them.
Just beginning to doubt that it makes any difference? I came to that conclusion long ago when SCOTUS looked the other way; it was always "no standing" or something similar or they just plain refused to hear cases.
Then we have ole sweet Ronna McDaniels -- what a waste. She supposed to be GOP chairwoman. She might as well be chairwoman for the DNC; she hasn't done a darn thing!!
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Trump being powerless must be the reason he terrifies all you "polite Miss Manners types" into having
hissy-fits every time his name is mentioned,huh?
You're on to something there, @sneakypete
YES, another four years of nothing. Another four years of growing government and debt, of the right growing closer to the liberalism we have risen to defend aganst... growing further away from what we know to be true, and what we know to work to preserve our liberty.
THAT is what I am terrified of. And that is what Tumpy is to me.
Come on,admit it,what you really want is JEB to run so you can get that warm "I've been here before" feeling in the pit of your stomachs,isn't it?
A dose of JEB would fix you all right up and bring you back to your "happy spot".
NOPE. Y'all are closer to the JEB!s of the world, not me. After all, JEB! and the NEOCONs want big government too.
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I see no difference between a whacked out liberal screaming "TRUMP" as a response to every rational argument given and a Trump sycophant yelling "JEB" to every rational argument given.
That's because there is no difference.
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"Sycophant"?????? He is nothing more than the least evil of all possible choices,and THAT makes me a "sycophant"?
@sneakypete
NO, He is not... And THAT's what makes one a sycophant.
As for the "rational argument given" BS,I haven't seen one yet. All I see is hatred and jealousy because he is rich as well as rude.
@sneakypete
No, all you see is hatred and jealousy BECAUSE that is what you WANT to see.
Rational arguments in this are not your bag. You dismiss them outright...
Most critically true of them all: We can't AFFORD another 4 years of Tumpy.
That is unarguably TRUE.
PLAIN to see, without orange colored glasses.
Math don't lie.
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@sneakypete
NO, He is not... And THAT's what makes one a sycophant.
@sneakypete
No, all you see is hatred and jealousy BECAUSE that is what you WANT to see.
Rational arguments in this are not your bag. You dismiss them outright...
Most critically true of them all: We can't AFFORD another 4 years of Tumpy.
That is unarguably TRUE.
PLAIN to see, without orange colored glasses.
Math don't lie.
@roamer_1
You wouldn't recognize the truth about Trump if it bit you on the ass.
No,he is NOT perfect. In fact he has a lot of flaws. So does everyone else,and he is the ONLY candidate not looking to personally profit from being elected. In FACT,he will probably suffer a net loss of income.
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@roamer_1
You wouldn't recognize the truth about Trump if it bit you on the ass.
No,he is NOT perfect. In fact he has a lot of flaws. So does everyone else,and he is the ONLY candidate not looking to personally profit from being elected. In FACT,he will probably suffer a net loss of income.
Yup, I agree with you there.
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@roamer_1
You wouldn't recognize the truth about Trump if it bit you on the ass.
Oh I dunno, @sneakypete ... I called his shots, pretty well all the way along. The only think I was all-out WRONG on was the First Lady, which I humbly admitted, fairly early on... In fact, she remains the only bright spot in that whole sordid time.
No,he is NOT perfect. In fact he has a lot of flaws.
TRUE. In fact, more flawed than most.
So does everyone else,and he is the ONLY candidate not looking to personally profit from being elected. In FACT,he will probably suffer a net loss of income.
False equivalency, facts not in evidence, and not true, in that order. His net worth has nothing to do with his wealth.
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Oh I dunno, @sneakypete ... I called his shots, pretty well all the way along. The only think I was all-out WRONG on was the First Lady, which I humbly admitted, fairly early on... In fact, she remains the only bright spot in that whole sordid time.
TRUE. In fact, more flawed than most.
False equivalency, facts not in evidence, and not true, in that order. His net worth has nothing to do with his wealth.
@roamer_1
ROFLMAO!
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@roamer_1
ROFLMAO!
It is TRUE. Anything he pulls down out of his corporation(s) becomes exposed to suit(s), so long as his person is in legal jeopardy. He would be a fool not to leave his dividends invested until his person is resolved of legal issues.
So what may look like loss of income may just be unrealized dividend, or money vested in new ventures. It is easy to hide income behind the corporate firewall. Ask me how I know.
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@Maj. Bill Martin
I don't think they are capable of learning anything .
@sneakypete
Sure they are. They're not running again because they learned that voters don't want them.
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By your argument. If you don't like your arguments being turned against you, then perhaps you should STFU and stop posting such ridiculous garbage.
@Kamaji
You should consider not imbibing before posting.
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That's what happens when you follow the Swamp's recommendations by appointing an Establishment hack like William Barr to lead the Justice Dept.
@Hoodat
The problem is MUCH bigger than any one man. It includes one whole political party,and a lot of others from the alleged opposition party.
I honestly think the major concern of a BIG majority of the politicians of both parties is "What do I have to do to stay in office?"
Right and wrong,morality,personal honor,NONE of it tops that.
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You're on to something there, @sneakypete
YES, another four years of nothing. Another four years of growing government and debt, of the right growing closer to the liberalism we have risen to defend aganst... growing further away from what we know to be true, and what we know to work to preserve our liberty.
THAT is what I am terrified of. And that is what Tumpy is to me.
NOPE. Y'all are closer to the JEB!s of the world, not me. After all, JEB! and the NEOCONs want big government too.
@roamer_1
I am sure you believe that,but people believe all sorts of foolish stuff.
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@sneakypete
Sure they are. They're not running again because they learned that voters don't want them.
@Maj. Bill Martin
Just another way of saying "There is no money in it for them."
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@roamer_1
I am sure you believe that,but people believe all sorts of foolish stuff.
Of course I believe it - And it's not foolish.
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In an attempt to end the debate I will ask you all the question. How hard is it to say 'Rhonda Santis?
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Another Question for yall: Isn't it time we elected another Ronald to be President?
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In an attempt to end the debate I will ask you all the question. How hard is it to say 'Rhonda Santis?
:silly:
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Another Question for yall: Isn't it time we elected another Ronald to be President?
Ronald McDonald would be a good choice. Better than the clown we have now.
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Another Question for yall: Isn't it time we elected another Ronald to be President?
@corbe
He's too busy being a spokesperson for McDonalds.
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@corbe
He's too busy being a spokesperson for McDonalds.
Lol
This one put a smile on my face
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@Maj. Bill Martin
Just another way of saying "There is no money in it for them."
The truth is that most of those guys make a lot more money out of politics than in it.
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Trump's biggest problem right now is staying out of jail.
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Another shameful truth: The notion that they can't keep leftover campaign funds when they lose. It goes to their favorite charity at their choosing. Clinton Foundation etc....
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Trump's biggest problem right now is staying out of jail.
And his big, unrestrained mouth. :laugh:
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Another shameful truth: The notion that they can't keep leftover campaign funds when they lose. It goes to their favorite charity at their choosing. Clinton Foundation etc....
Well Trump did give about 100,000 once before and he can do it again
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work?? i wont have any time for work.... i'll be too busy playing golf///
no wait....that was the other way around wasnt it...
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@roamer_1
You wouldn't recognize the truth about Trump if it bit you on the ass.
No,he is NOT perfect. In fact he has a lot of flaws. So does everyone else,and he is the ONLY candidate not looking to personally profit from being elected. In FACT,he will probably suffer a net loss of income.
Bull.
He benefits from name recognition the longer his name is out there. I've already gone over the Nightmare Scenario: he runs, wins primary, loses, is eligible to run again, repeat every four years until the GOP ends up losing ballot access and our country ends up like California. As long as he's out there, he gets to have his name in the spotlight. More opportunities to cut deals, sell his fame. He's personally profiting more than anyone in this race.
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Playing a dangerous game with the only man who could Pardon him.
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Bull.
He benefits from name recognition the longer his name is out there. I've already gone over the Nightmare Scenario: he runs, wins primary, loses, is eligible to run again, repeat every four years until the GOP ends up losing ballot access and our country ends up like California. As long as he's out there, he gets to have his name in the spotlight. More opportunities to cut deals, sell his fame. He's personally profiting more than anyone in this race.
@jmyrlefuller
You are delusional.
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Bull.
He benefits from name recognition the longer his name is out there. I've already gone over the Nightmare Scenario: he runs, wins primary, loses, is eligible to run again, repeat every four years until the GOP ends up losing ballot access and our country ends up like California. As long as he's out there, he gets to have his name in the spotlight. More opportunities to cut deals, sell his fame. He's personally profiting more than anyone in this race.
With all due respect @jmyrlefuller the Trump name is already recognizable -- his brand was out there before he was president, and being president, well, he definitely has name recognition.
As for continuing to run, time and time again -- age is against him. This will likely be his last run. He's 76 years old. Not feasible for him to continue running.