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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: don-o on February 04, 2017, 06:21:18 pm
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EXCLUSIVE: House Intelligence IT Staffers Fired In Computer Security Probe
http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/04/exclusive-house-intelligence-it-staffers-fired-in-computer-security-probe/?utm_campaign=atdailycaller&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social
Three brothers who managed office information technology for members of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and other lawmakers were abruptly relieved of their duties on suspicion that they accessed congressional computer networks without permission.
Brothers Abid, Imran, and Jamal Awan were barred from computer networks at the House of Representatives Thursday, The Daily Caller News Foundation Investigative Group has learned.
Three members of the intelligence panel and five members of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs were among the dozens of members who employed the suspects on a shared basis. The two committees deal with many of the nation’s most sensitive issues, information and documents, including those related to the war on terrorism.
Also among those whose computer systems may have been compromised is Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the Florida Democrat who was previously the target of a disastrous email hack when she served as chairman of the Democratic National Committee during the 2016 campaign.
snip - good article at source.
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JUST WOW! FUBAR times 10
The Treasonous Radical Progressive Liberal Democrats; aka the enemy within, they hire and pay extremely well Islamic Hackers then blame the Russians when anything goes wrong.
Every damned Demonrat in congress should be sent to GITMO, never to be seen or heard again, obama left plenty of room for them.
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"Brothers Abid, Imran, and Jamal Awan"
I against my brother, my brothers and I against our father...
Some common theme here. Can't quite put my finger on it. Oh well. Probably nothing.
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Nice bit of infiltration by the enemy. :nometalk:
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JUST WOW! FUBAR times 10
The Treasonous Radical Progressive Liberal Democrats; aka the enemy within, they hire and pay extremely well Islamic Hackers then blame the Russians when anything goes wrong.
Every damned Demonrat in congress should be sent to GITMO, never to be seen or heard again, obama left plenty of room for them.
I don't know about you, but I, for one, am shocked, I tell you. Shocked!
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Does this incident relate to this (thread posted by Myst)? (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,247508.0.html)
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Nice bit of infiltration by the enemy. :nometalk:
I posted this yesterday.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/03/police-probing-it-contractors-for-house-dems-over-unauthorized-computer-access.html
Not sure which of Myst's threads you are talking about.
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If this doesn't illustrate the level of trouble we are actually in I don't know what it will take!
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Not sure which of Myst's threads you are talking about.
The one I linked: Five House employees are under criminal investigation amid allegations that they stole equipment from more than 20 member offices and accessed House IT systems without lawmakers' knowledge.
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The one I linked: Five House employees are under criminal investigation amid allegations that they stole equipment from more than 20 member offices and accessed House IT systems without lawmakers' knowledge.
Sorry! My old eyes missed the link in your post!
I would say that they all are related. Meaning mine and Myst's.
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If this doesn't illustrate the level of trouble we are actually in I don't know what it will take!
Nothing. you have people on the inside these and other departments working in govt who deny it to the bitter end. I saw one do it this AM. So what are the odds that Joe Average is going to take the time to learn whats happening?
People are so far into normalcy bias and so utterly brainwashed by teevee that they lost the ability to look at facts and use reason. This all ends one way and history shows it. Look to every great civilization's fall. their people got physically cowardly and intellectually lazy. Rome being the biggest example. they imported the very people they made war on and made them their armies/workers/their very society. They stopped doing anything that built their empire and gave in to hedonism and 'me first' attitudes.
How is it 'different' for us? Is it because 'That can't happen to America?"
But it already happened. And anyone that tries to raise the alarm or actually act to stop the fall is censored, mocked, made into Emanuel Goldstein or simply brushed off as a bigot, hater or kook.
But then we have always been at war with EastAsia so what does it matter? I love BIg Brother.
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We need a modern-day Joe McCarthy to root out islamic moles and agents in the D.C. government...
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@don-o @Norm Lenhart
I'm wondering if people just don't get the import of this story or just don't give a rat's a$$!
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@don-o @Norm Lenhart
I'm wondering if people just don't get the import of this story or just don't give a rat's a$$!
Some actually approve of it and want to keep importing them.
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Meet The 3 NON-RUSSIAN Hackers Behind The Hacks: Brothers Abid, Imran, and Jamal Awan
Ryan Saavedra Feb 4th, 2017 5:11 pm
Gateway Pundit (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/meet-3-non-russian-hackers-behind-hacks-brothers-abid-imran-jamal-awan/)
Government Personnel Compromised By Rogue IT Staff
In an interesting turn of events, it appears that the Russians may have not been behind the hacks into the American political system after all. Meet the three men who are now the center of attention for the hacks: Brothers Abid, Imran, and Jamal Awan.
The Daily Caller News Foundation (http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/04/exclusive-house-intelligence-it-staffers-fired-in-computer-security-probe/) is reporting that three brothers who managed office IT for government officials have been relieved of their duties on suspicion that they accessed specific computer networks without permission, also known as hacking.
From The Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/04/exclusive-house-intelligence-it-staffers-fired-in-computer-security-probe/): Brothers Abid, Imran, and Jamal Awan were barred from computer networks at the House of Representatives Thursday, The Daily Caller News Foundation Investigative Group has learned.
Three members of the intelligence panel and five members of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs were among the dozens of members who employed the suspects on a shared basis. The two committees deal with many of the nation’s most sensitive issues, information and documents, including those related to the war on terrorism.
The Daily Caller goes on to state that one of the possible computer systems that may have been hacked in connection to these three brothers belongs to Florida Democrat Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Schultz served as the chairman for the DNC when the now infamous DNC hacks took place during the 2016 presidential campaign. Many Democrats and media outlets reported for months, with little evidence, that the Russians were behind the hacks in a deliberate attempt to help President Trump win the election.
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These guys were making $160K per year each, but couldn't pay the mortgage?
... Abid, Imran and Jamal have all shared a house in Lorton, Virginia, that is owned by Hina R. Alvi. Alvi is a female House IT employee who works for many of the same members as the three brothers, as well as the House Democratic Caucus.
Signs of trouble have long been visible in public records. The Congressional Credit Union repossessed Abid’s car in 2009, and he declared bankruptcy in 2012, facing multiple lawsuits. Alvi, who did not respond to TheDCNF’s request for comment, has taken multiple second mortgages.
Security-sensitive jobs typically require background checks for credit and legal problems that can create pressures to cash in on access to secret information and documents.
Jamal, who public records suggest is only 22 years old and first began working in the House when he was 20, was paid nearly $160,000 a year, or three times the average House IT staff salary, according to InsideGov, which tracks congressional salaries. Abid was paid $161,000 and Imran $165,000.
Jack Langer, spokesman for the intelligence committee, said the committee office has its own IT staff and security measures and classified information from the panel is not allowed to be sent to members’ personal offices.
Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/04/exclusive-house-intelligence-it-staffers-fired-in-computer-security-probe/#ixzz4Xp4ZSchb)
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Meet The 3 NON-RUSSIAN Hackers Behind The Hacks: Brothers Abid, Imran, and Jamal Awan
Ryan Saavedra Feb 4th, 2017 5:11 pm
Gateway Pundit (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/meet-3-non-russian-hackers-behind-hacks-brothers-abid-imran-jamal-awan/)
Government Personnel Compromised By Rogue IT Staff
In an interesting turn of events, it appears that the Russians may have not been behind the hacks into the American political system after all. Meet the three men who are now the center of attention for the hacks: Brothers Abid, Imran, and Jamal Awan.
The Daily Caller News Foundation (http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/04/exclusive-house-intelligence-it-staffers-fired-in-computer-security-probe/) is reporting that three brothers who managed office IT for government officials have been relieved of their duties on suspicion that they accessed specific computer networks without permission, also known as hacking.
From The Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/04/exclusive-house-intelligence-it-staffers-fired-in-computer-security-probe/):
The Daily Caller goes on to state that one of the possible computer systems that may have been hacked in connection to these three brothers belongs to Florida Democrat Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Schultz served as the chairman for the DNC when the now infamous DNC hacks took place during the 2016 presidential campaign. Many Democrats and media outlets reported for months, with little evidence, that the Russians were behind the hacks in a deliberate attempt to help President Trump win the election.
Did these guys work at the pleasure of the Committee or did they have GS numbers! THAT is what I want to know!
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BREAKING: Secret Service Was Just Called To Investigate MAJOR Crimes To Sabotage Trump— Look Who’s Involved AGAIN!
By Amber
trump
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Gee, another computer fiasco involving the Democrats. Who didn’t see this coming? Remember Hillary’s home brewed server and the thousands of emails that were not properly secured? It opened us up to security breaches and basically invited our enemies in to see everything the State Department was up to. It was a clear violation of the Espionage Act. Now this… at least five IT contractors have been accused of improperly accessing the House computer system, along with taking hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment and billing the House for amounts that are greater than the cost of equipment. These contractors worked for dozens of House Democrats.
Information obtained by the contractors was stored on a cloud server leaving it open to possible hacking by foreign agents. Investigators don’t believe espionage was involved, but they can’t be certain. And there is a distinct possibility that the information was being sold to interested parties here in the US. No House members themselves are under investigation, but we all know that many of them are corrupt and have been before. No arrests have been made yet, but it sure looks like there will be. Why aren’t any Democrats being held accountable for this?
From the Conservative Tribune:
http://freedomdaily.com/breaking-secret-service-just-called-investigate-major-crimes-sabotage-trump-look-whos-involved/
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Written by "Amber"?
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I read what I thought was a credible source this morning that said Soros gave $50,000 to one of these protest organizations.
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Written by "Amber"?
@CatherineofAragon
Well, she *did* use ALL CAPS, which gives her TOTAL credibility, doncha know?
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From the Conservative Tribune... according to Fox News... according to The Washington Examiner... per a source that says no one is getting investigated.
Would it be too much to ask to find the original articles instead of the crap this (basically anonymous) poster "curated?"
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Written by "Amber"?
Forever.
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@CatherineofAragon
Well, she *did* use ALL CAPS, which gives her TOTAL credibility, doncha know?
@bolobaby
:nometalk:
Three articles on the home page contain the phrase "pissed off" in the titles.
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Forever.
@endicom
Valletta.
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From the Conservative Tribune... according to Fox News... according to The Washington Examiner... per a source that says no one is getting investigated.
Would it be too much to ask to find the original articles instead of the crap this (basically anonymous) poster "curated?"
That's the right question. And, it is incumbent upon each and every one of us to find and read the source. Whether it's Amber or Bill O'Reilly.
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Related threads merged.
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All @rangerrebew is capable of doing is posting fake news.
I agree! We should only get our news from pre-approved sites that have news that backs up what we already know/feel/think!
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Related threads merged.
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Two is a sexy little digit. Nice curves.
Mod Two can be as bad as Mod one Though.
It's the loneliest number since the number one.
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I agree! We should only get our news from pre-approved sites that have news that backs up what we already know/feel/think!
I agree. How dare we get some news from anyone else but CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, the NY Times or the Washington Post. I'm particular about where I get my fake news from. :silly:
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I tend to look for more than one site to verify if a story is accurate.
Furthermore, at least one of those sites should have a good reputation for crafting news.
It should also not use adjectives used to elicit an emotional response.
And who, pray tell, would that be? :shrug:
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Center for Security Policy (http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2017/02/06/rogue-house-it-staff-served-rep-andre-carson-center-dossier-documents-carson-ties-to-muslim-brotherhood/)
Rogue House IT staff served Rep. Andre Carson; Center dossier documents Carson ties to Muslim Brotherhood
February 6, 2017 | [CSP Journal]
The Daily Caller’s investigative unit has released an exposé about a newly uncovered scandal, and it may be another example of the Muslim Brotherhood’s civilization jihad aimed at hollowing out our civil society and governing institutions from within: http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/04/exclusive-house-intelligence-it-staffers-fired-in-computer-security-probe/.
Three brothers who managed office information technology for members of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and other lawmakers were abruptly relieved of their duties on suspicion that they accessed congressional computers without permission.
Brothers Abid, Imran, and Jamal Awan were barred from computer networks at the House of Representatives Thursday, The Daily Caller News Foundation Investigative Group has learned.
Three members of the intelligence panel and five members of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs were among the dozens of members who employed the suspects on a shared basis. The two committees deal with many of the nation’s most sensitive issues and documents, including those related to the war on terrorism.
One of the Congressmen who was employing these operatives was Andre Carson. The Center has documented Carson’s extensive and alarming ties to the Muslim Brotherhood in the following dossier: http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2015/02/24/center-releases-dossier-documenting-a-house-intelligence-committee-members-extensive-ties-to-the-muslim-brotherhood/
Quelle surprise.
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House Conservatives Want To Know How Rogue IT Staffers Got Away
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/14/house-conservatives-want-to-know-how-rogue-it-staffers-got-away/#ixzz4YrheoIn3
House conservatives want to investigate three IT employees, all brothers, suspected of compromising the networks of Democrats on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and House Committee on Foreign Affairs.
Conservative Republicans — disappointed in House Democrats for hushing up the issue and in the media for failing to widely report the story — hope the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform (HOGR) will examine how House Democratic offices allowed the potential breach in national security information.
The Daily Caller News Foundation’s Investigative Group was first to identify suspects Abid, Imran and Jamal Awan, who are under a U.S. Capitol Police criminal investigation for their use of congressional IT systems and alleged theft and over-billing of computer equipment. (RELATED: EXCLUSIVE: House Intelligence, Foreign Affairs Committee Members Compromised By Rogue IT Staff)
“I’m for an investigation — I hope to do it,” Ohio Republican Rep. Jim Jordan said Tuesday during Conversations with Conservatives on Capitol Hill. He later added he hopes to discuss a possible investigation with HOGR chairman and Utah Republican Rep. Jason Chaffetz, and Florida Republican Rep. Ron DeSantis, chairman of HOGR’s Subcommittee on National Security.
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And we STILL don't know if these three brothers had GS numbers or were contract employees!
Has that information been posted anywhere?
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@don-o @Norm Lenhart
I'm wondering if people just don't get the import of this story or just don't give a rat's a$$!
Are you kidding. There're people on this site who blow off the idea of anything conspiratorial going on in Washington, unless it comports with their political point of view.
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And we STILL don't know if these three brothers had GS numbers or were contract employees!
Has that information been posted anywhere?
Not seen it anywhere. They have been referred to in a few stories as "shared employees," but that isn't definitive.
I'd incline to contract employees, myself, simply because one (Abid) has a criminal record, which should have prevented him being hired.
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Not seen it anywhere. They have been referred to in a few stories as "shared employees," but that isn't definitive.
I'd incline to contract employees, myself, simply because one (Abid) has a criminal record, which should have prevented him being hired.
I would guess that they were GS employees. But I want to know that for sure because if they WERE GS that opens up a whole new can of worms!
Edit to add: And if they were GS employees that would explain why we don't know!
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Jamal M Awan, a current staffer, earned an estimated salary of $157,577 as an Information Technology through the most recent House pay period. This was 3.1 times greater than the median for a House IT administrator.
http://congressional-staff.insidegov.com/l/43573/Jamal-M-Awan
Could a GS employee get a 3x salary?
@Bigun @EC
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http://congressional-staff.insidegov.com/l/43573/Jamal-M-Awan
Could a GS employee get a 3x salary?
@Bigun @EC
@don-o
No! That points to contract if true.
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Throw in the little fact that Jamal is 22 and it's a dodgy contract.
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Throw in the little fact that Jamal is 22 and it's a dodgy contract.
Stir this in as well! Awan has been employed in Congress since Q2 '14 (about 1 year and 10 months), and has also been a staffer for Rep. David Loebsack (D-IA2), Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA33), and Rep. Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ9).
Thanks @don-o for the valuable info!
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Stranger and stranger.
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Stranger and stranger.
@Sanguine @don-o @EC
Here's more:
VIDEO: Those 3 muslim Brothers Arrested for Spying on Trump Were Hired by Obama… This is Happening!
http://conservativepost.com/video-those-3-muslim-brothers-arrested-for-spying-on-trump-were-hired-by-obama-this-is-happening/
Watch the video!
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@Sanguine @don-o @EC
More yet:
EXCLUSIVE: House Dem IT Guys In Security Probe Secretly Took $100K In Iraqi Money
http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/20/exclusive-house-dem-it-guys-in-security-probe-secretly-took-100k-in-iraqi-money/#ixzz4ZKxRGEeB
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This isn't a mere rabbit hole. There's a whole damned mansion hidden down there, by the looks of things.
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This isn't a mere rabbit hole. There's a whole damned mansion hidden down there, by the looks of things.
Which explains why the MSM is doing their dead level best to bury it my brother!
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Thanks, @Bigun.
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I'm suddenly wondering if this investigation is why the impossible has happened and Cummings of all people is suddenly sounding conciliatory.
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I'm suddenly wondering if this investigation is why the impossible has happened and Cummings of all people is suddenly sounding conciliatory.
You have a devious mind! :smokin:
So do I! How'd that happen? :silly:
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You have a devious mind! :smokin:
So do I! How'd that happen? :silly:
Why, I'm sure I have no idea, sir! :tongue2:
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@Norm Lenhart @skeeter @mountaineer
You may be interested in further developments as well.
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From the Conservative Tribune... according to Fox News... according to The Washington Examiner... per a source that says no one is getting investigated.
Would it be too much to ask to find the original articles instead of the crap this (basically anonymous) poster "curated?"
Here is the original source, Maria Bartiromo is one of the most credible and respected people in the business.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktqdYXd1qJQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktqdYXd1qJQ)
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Here is the original source, Maria Bartiromo is one of the most credible and respected people in the business.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktqdYXd1qJQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktqdYXd1qJQ)
She's right; it is amazing.
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@Norm Lenhart @skeeter @mountaineer
You may be interested in further developments as well.
Thanks for the ping.
Doesn't surprise me at all.
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She's right; it is amazing.
@EC is right! This is no rabbit hole and there is a concerted effort underway to cover it all up!
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Thanks for the ping. I noticed there were developments, but was busy at work and didn't get a chance to read the stories.
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After three obvious Muslims here, I think it legitimate to national interests to place ALL Muslims surnames within the govt under surveillance until matters have cleared up.
This is not a time for PC crap.
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After three obvious Muslims here, I think it legitimate to national interests to place ALL Muslims surnames within the govt under surveillance until matters have cleared up.
This is not a time for PC crap.
@IsailedawayfromFR
You really should take a look at the stories I posted earlier today. It is a sorted mess and is being actively covered up!
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"Got away"?
Did we lose them somewhere else or what?
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@IsailedawayfromFR
You really should take a look at the stories I posted earlier today. It is a sorted mess and is being actively covered up!
So my comment stands. Investigate ALL Muslim surnames as a start.
We are talking about the life of this country, and do not need to pander to people who might 'feel sorry' about doing this to all.
It is life and death.
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This was personally orchestrated by Obama. This was a Muslim Brotherhood crew who were meant to be Obama's inside cadre within government intelligence services. Their only mission was to be Obama's eyes and ears once he was out of office.
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This was personally orchestrated by Obama. This was a Muslim Brotherhood crew who were meant to be Obama's inside cadre within government intelligence services. Their only mission was to be Obama's eyes and ears once he was out of office.
Nah. The Worm's eyes and ears will be there still, with names like John Smith. He's a fool - not stupid.
Muslim Brotherhood crew, possibly. Not saying probably because they are Pakistani - more sympathetic on the whole to a different lot entirely.
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This was personally orchestrated by Obama. This was a Muslim Brotherhood crew who were meant to be Obama's inside cadre within government intelligence services. Their only mission was to be Obama's eyes and ears once he was out of office.
There is no telling the damage these bastard are responsible for and all I'm going to say further is that I hope all concerned get what's coming to them whether I ever find out about it or not.
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House Dem IT Guys In Security Probe Secretly Took $100K In Iraqi Money
Posted on February 21, 2017 by admin
Rogue congressional staffers took $100,000 from an Iraqi politician while they had administrator-level access to the House of Representatives’ computer network, according to court documents examined by The Daily Caller News Foundation’s Investigative Group.
The money was a loan from Dr. Ali al-Attar, an Iraqi political figure, and was funneled through a company with “impossible”-to-decipher financial transactions that the congressional information technology (IT) staffers controlled.
Imran Awan, ringleader of the group that includes his brothers Abid and Jamal, has provided IT services since 2005 for Florida Democrat Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the former Democratic National Committee (DNC) chairwoman. The brothers are from Pakistan.
The trio also worked for dozens of other House Democrats, including members of the intelligence, foreign affairs and homeland security committees. Those positions likely gave them access to congressional emails and other sensitive documents.
The brothers, whose access to House IT networks has been terminated, are under criminal investigation by the U.S. Capitol Police.
Wasserman Schultz resigned from her DNC post following a disastrous email hack during the 2016 campaign. Her House spokesman did not respond to TheDCNF’s question Monday about Imran’s employment status. As of Feb. 6, she had declined to fire Imran.
Investigators found that congressional information was being copied to an off-site server and they suspect the brothers of improperly accessing information and stealing congressional property. Chiefs of staff for the employing Democrats were notified Feb. 2.
Soon after Imran began working for members of Congress, Imran’s and Abid’s wives — Hina Alvi and Natalia Sova — also began receiving congressional paychecks, TheDCNF found. Imran’s employers included two members of the intelligence committee, Indiana Democrat Rep. Andre Carson and California Democrat Rep. Jackie Speier.
By 2009, the family was simultaneously managing a full-time car dealership in Virginia, with Abid running day-to-day operations after contributing $250,000 in startup cash. It was called Cars International A, LLC, referred to as “CIA” in court documents.
Imran boasted unusual clout among House Democrats, and was even pictured conversing with former President Bill Clinton. After Rao Abbas, who was owed money by the dealership, threatened to sue amid allegations of deception and theft, Abbas appeared on the congressional payroll and received $250,000 in taxpayer payments.
Abid had “100% control” of the dealership, a one-time business partner said in court documents, in addition to his $165,000-a-year job working full-time for multiple representatives, including Ohio Democrat Tim Ryan and California Democrat Jim Costa.
“He had the dealer license and sole responsibility of running it. Abid would put cars on the lot, take them in consignment, sell them, do all the title work and get money from the retail sale,” according to court documents. Multiple emails show the Awan brothers conducting business such as attending car auctions on weekdays.
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http://truepundit.com/house-dem-it-guys-in-security-probe-secretly-took-100k-in-iraqi-money/?platform=hootsuite (http://truepundit.com/house-dem-it-guys-in-security-probe-secretly-took-100k-in-iraqi-money/?platform=hootsuite)
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I'd arrest Obama, Jarrett, Lynch, Lerner and Clinton.
Put them in handcuffs behind their backs. Hmmm....in that case, throw Huma Abedin in there too!
Then, I'd waterboard them on HBO pay per view.
Huma has to wear a white silk blouse and bright red lipstick.
We need to find out where all the 'bodies' are buried. Questions not answered.
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I'd arrest Obama, Jarrett, Lynch, Lerner and Clinton.
Put them in handcuffs behind their backs. Hmmm....in that case, throw Huma Abedin in there too!
Then, I'd waterboard them on HBO pay per view.
Huma has to wear a white silk blouse and bright red lipstick.
We need to find out where all the 'bodies' are buried. Questions not answered.
Not bad.
Think DT will bite?
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I'd arrest Obama, Jarrett, Lynch, Lerner and Clinton.
Put them in handcuffs behind their backs. Hmmm....in that case, throw Huma Abedin in there too!
Then, I'd waterboard them on HBO pay per view.
Huma has to wear a white silk blouse and bright red lipstick.
We need to find out where all the 'bodies' are buried. Questions not answered.
Might want to have a talk to some of your fellow Trump guys here then DC because IIRC, and I do, there was a trend here among them to leave Hillary alone when the trial balloon went up a while back. Something they were harping on about nevertrump doing to try and sabotage his agenda with all that crazy talk of arresting Hillary.
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Might want to have a talk to some of your fellow Trump guys here then DC because IIRC, and I do, there was a trend here among them to leave Hillary alone when the trial balloon went up a while back. Something they were harping on about nevertrump doing to try and sabotage his agenda with all that crazy talk of arresting Hillary.
It's why her name is last. :laugh: