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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: Chosen Daughter on May 28, 2016, 05:42:16 am
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Trump: Romney 'walks like a penguin'
The presumptive GOP nominee lashed out at 2012 nominee Mitt Romney, saying he “walks like a penguin.”
“Poor Mitt Romney. I have a store that’s worth more money than he is,” Trump said in Anaheim, Calif.
“I understand losers. You can make a lot of money with losers,” Trump said, before adding that the former Massachusetts governor “choked like a dog. He’s a choker.”
Next up: Rick Perry, who bashed Trump on the trail as a “cancer” to conservatism but ultimately endorsed him.
“Good guy, he said the worst things about me and I always liked him. This politics is a dirty business, I’ve never seen people pivot like politicians,” Trump said.
“I got a call, Rick Perry, he made the nicest speech. He actually said something to the effect that [I was] perhaps the smartest person to run for the presidency. He found out, he knew.”
While noting that Jeb Bush hasn’t endorsed him yet, Trump predicted the Florida governor “will get a burst of energy and he will do it,” a reference to his repeated barbs that Bush was “low energy.”
“They talk badly, you talk badly, that’s how it works,” Trump said.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/281267-trump-romney-walks-like-a-penguin
A man with an insult for everyone. Most people can discuss politics without resorting to personal insults. Its the mind of a child. I guess we want an infant for president.
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And I don't know about anyone else but I think that Trump has the profile of a penguin.
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And I don't know about anyone else but I think that Trump has the profile of a penguin.
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Hey! @Chosen Daughter. Guess what? 88devil
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I have a heck of lot worse than that to say about Mitt!
But the whole post would be nothing but "bleeps" :nometalk:
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And I don't know about anyone else but I think that Trump has the profile of a penguin.
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You beat me to it. Like Trump has room to make fun of anyone. Romney is still lean and fit looking AND has nice real hair.
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Tough talk from a guy who backed down from a debate with Bernie..
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Sorry, but I can't see myself ever defending Willard.
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Mitt admirably has probably given a lot to charity but a lot of those donations may be for mainly missionary/proselytizing work for the Mormons. There is nothing wrong with that but it just should be said, it may not be mainly feeding the hungry, clothing the poor and the like.
Still, giving a lot to charity is one thing compared to, seemingly, not giving much at all.
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Mitt admirably has probably given a lot to charity but a lot of those donations may be for mainly missionary/proselytizing work for the Mormons. There is nothing wrong with that but it just should be said, it may not be mainly feeding the hungry, clothing the poor and the like.
Still, giving a lot to charity is one thing compared to, seemingly, not giving much at all.
or give to a scam foundation.
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And I don't know about anyone else but I think that Trump has the profile of a penguin.
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With a dead orangutan on its head.
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And I don't know about anyone else but I think that Trump has the profile of a penguin.
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The hand gesture does remind me of:
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And furthermore, if this despicable apology for a human being had all the political virtues of Ronald Reagan I wouldn't vote for him, not in a million lifetimes. He tells me all I need to know about him, every time he opens his foul mouth.
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Sorry, but I can't see myself ever defending Willard.
But, it's not even about Romney; or even penguins. It's about a pathetic manchild aspiring to the highest office in the land.
A disgusting boorish man.
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He tells me all I need to know about him, every time he opens his foul mouth.
He never ceases to startle me. Back to Junior High we go. But, it is all okay because it's gonna be really, really great, I will tell you.
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But, it's not even about Romney; or even penguins. It's about a pathetic manchild aspiring to the highest office in the land.
A disgusting boorish man.
Nailed it don-o.
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But, it's not even about Romney; or even penguins. It's about a pathetic manchild aspiring to the highest office in the land.
A disgusting boorish man.
He is a disgusting boor. Absolutely.
But, given his boorish behavior against anybody who refuses to kiss his a$$, I think there are far better petards upon which to hoist the Orange Bomber.
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What a shame that I'm cursed to live at Least half my adult life under reprehensible, delusional jackanapes as president.
Almost certainly after four years of Trump we'll look back on Obama's eight years and say "at least he had a little 'cool' factor." That's pretty damned depressing if you ask me.
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Almost certainly after four years of Trump we'll look back on Obama's eight years and say "at least he had a little 'cool' factor." That's pretty damned depressing if you ask me.
There was/is no "cool factor" with the Man Child Obama. None at all.
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Nailed it don-o.
I'm glad I live in Illinois where I know Trump will not be close so I don't have to worry to vote for him or Hillary.. In fact this is the only time that I'm glad I live in Illinois.
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He is a disgusting boor. Absolutely.
But, given his boorish behavior against anybody who refuses to kiss his a$$, I think there are far better petards upon which to hoist the Orange Bomber.
Please elaborate.
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This thread needs a warning added to the title: "For pre-school children only".
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This thread needs an warning added to the title: "For pre-school children only".
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Wonder if I could turn that into an avatar image.
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But, it's not even about Romney; or even penguins. It's about a pathetic manchild aspiring to the highest office in the land.
A disgusting boorish man.
I think a lot of people have forgotten or lost sight of the job he is applying for. He isn't applying to be spokesperson, he isn't applying to be a disruptive agent, he isn't applying to be carnival barker, he isn't applying to be king or prime minister-
He is applying to be Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces. Real lives are on the line. Young men and women every day raise their hands in an oath to put their lives on the line to protect the country and Constitution- and Trump is applying to be their Commander in Chief.
They deserve better.
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I think a lot of people have forgotten or lost sight of the job he is applying for. He isn't applying to be spokesperson, he isn't applying to be a disruptive agent, he isn't applying to be carnival barker, he isn't applying to be king or prime minister-
He is applying to be Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces. Real lives are on the line. Young men and women every day raise their hands in an oath to put their lives on the line to protect the country and Constitution- and Trump is applying to be their Commander in Chief.
They deserve better.
Bozo the clown would be an improvement over this clown, in every respect.
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Donald J. TrumpVerified account
@realDonaldTrump
The U.S. has 69 treaties with other countries where we would have to defend them and their borders. How nice, but what do we get? NOT ENOUGH
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Seventy years of a US-created international order pissed away by this intellectual weakling.
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Please elaborate.
As memory serves, "tea party" ire about Willard was pretty much universal throughout the 2012 election cycle. Constitutionalist ire against him was pretty outspoken during 2008 as well (though that was mitigated by the displeasure of the GOP-E candidate of that cycle, McLame). I can think of many, many people who didn't hesitate to use any and all means to skewer Romney during that cycle, such as this one:
(http://i.imgur.com/JP93b4H.jpg)
Now we're supposed to be incensed because Trump does the same "genus" of thing as we did back in 2012? (Yes, a different species but definitely the same genus). I find it a bit odd criticizing somebody for mocking a figure whom I, myself, have mocked mercilessly.
Trump is, as you stated, a boor. Trump is, as many of us have stated, no conservative. I prefer to criticize him when he displays that boorish behavior toward an actual conservative.
I wish he wasn't the nominee. But he is.
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I think a lot of people have forgotten or lost sight of the job he is applying for. He isn't applying to be spokesperson, he isn't applying to be a disruptive agent, he isn't applying to be carnival barker, he isn't applying to be king or prime minister-
He is applying to be Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces. Real lives are on the line. Young men and women every day raise their hands in an oath to put their lives on the line to protect the country and Constitution- and Trump is applying to be their Commander in Chief.
They deserve better.
One of them is my son. Fighter jet student pilot with USMC.
I cannot abide that Trump's idiocy could put him on a fool's mission.
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Wonder if I could turn that into an avatar image.
If you could get Drumpf's head on the "opera baby" it would be hilarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxWemv-3rhc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxWemv-3rhc)
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Trump is, as you stated, a boor. Trump is, as many of us have stated, no conservative. I prefer to criticize him when he displays that boorish behavior toward an actual conservative.
I wish he wasn't the nominee. But he is.
So, have at it with David Cameron or Kim Jong-un with that blabber? They aren't conservative, after all.
Trump is not the only egomaniac on the scene.
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As memory serves, "tea party" ire about Willard was pretty much universal throughout the 2012 election cycle. Constitutionalist ire against him was pretty outspoken during 2008 as well (though that was mitigated by the displeasure of the GOP-E candidate of that cycle, McLame). I can think of many, many people who didn't hesitate to use any and all means to skewer Romney during that cycle, such as this one:
(http://i.imgur.com/JP93b4H.jpg)
Now we're supposed to be incensed because Trump does the same "genus" of thing as we did back in 2012? (Yes, a different species but definitely the same genus). I find it a bit odd criticizing somebody for mocking a figure whom I, myself, have mocked mercilessly.
Trump is, as you stated, a boor. Trump is, as many of us have stated, no conservative. I prefer to criticize him when he displays that boorish behavior toward an actual conservative.
I wish he wasn't the nominee. But he is.
Trump isn't in the same universe of decent,moral human beings that Mitt Romney is in. I never understood all the anger at Romney. I would vote for him again if he were a 3rd party nominee.
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All the characters mentioned in this article continue to live up too the lowest of expectations. For the worst of them there is no shortage of defenders.
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But, it's not even about Romney; or even penguins. It's about a pathetic manchild aspiring to the highest office in the land.
A disgusting boorish man.
Seems so obvious, doesn't it?? ... and yet........... :shrug:
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I think a lot of people have forgotten or lost sight of the job he is applying for. He isn't applying to be spokesperson, he isn't applying to be a disruptive agent, he isn't applying to be carnival barker, he isn't applying to be king or prime minister-
He is applying to be Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces. Real lives are on the line. Young men and women every day raise their hands in an oath to put their lives on the line to protect the country and Constitution- and Trump is applying to be their Commander in Chief.
They deserve better.
They do. They also deserve better than Hillary. That's the problem.
Honestly, if the choice was based solely on who would be best for the military, I'd go Trump in a heartbeat. At least he is less likely to view the military as an engine of social change than is Hillary.
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I think a lot of people have forgotten or lost sight of the job he is applying for. He isn't applying to be spokesperson, he isn't applying to be a disruptive agent, he isn't applying to be carnival barker, he isn't applying to be king or prime minister-
He is applying to be Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces. Real lives are on the line. Young men and women every day raise their hands in an oath to put their lives on the line to protect the country and Constitution- and Trump is applying to be their Commander in Chief.
They deserve better.
We all deserve better than the immature narcissist, Trump.
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When Trump first hit the Presidential campaign scene, I thought his non PC ways were refreshing. But i have come to see that it has nothing to do with not being PC. He is very PC as evidenced by his flip flopping on issues. What he is is a RUDE IDIOT. Do not be fooled into thinking these things are the same thing.
Trump is very PC about Bruce Jenner.
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I think a lot of people have forgotten or lost sight of the job he is applying for. He isn't applying to be spokesperson, he isn't applying to be a disruptive agent, he isn't applying to be carnival barker, he isn't applying to be king or prime minister-
He is applying to be Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces. Real lives are on the line. Young men and women every day raise their hands in an oath to put their lives on the line to protect the country and Constitution- and Trump is applying to be their Commander in Chief.
They deserve better.
And your better is Hillary?
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One of them is my son. Fighter jet student pilot with USMC.
I cannot abide that Trump's idiocy could put him on a fool's mission.
I would be Proud to serve with Trump as CIC, He loves America and wins.
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Trump: Romney 'walks like a penguin'
Romney is a guy that profits from incinerating the dead babies his own laws as Governor helped to get themselves dead to begin with. Ergo he is the scum of the earth and should be treated as such by any human with an ounce of conscience and not ever supported.
That said, Trump gives him competition in his own 'moral' way and is the last person who should be mocking the physical attributes of another. Of course he has established a pattern of that already with the disabled reporter, Fiorina etc.
Whatever it is though, it's not something anyone SHOULD want from their president.
But pay no attention folks. It's a lesser evil...
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Trump isn't in the same universe of decent,moral human beings that Mitt Romney is in.
And what. pray tell, universe considers passing laws to dismember fetal children for lifestyle convenience, and then profiting from your own laws by burning their corpses to ash, a moral anything? Because I sure as hell don't want anything to do with such people or such a place. That universe sounds a lot like the 9th circle of Hell.
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Romney is a guy that profits from incinerating the dead babies his own laws as Governor helped to get themselves dead to begin with. Ergo he is the scum of the earth and should be treated as such by any human with an ounce of conscience and not ever supported.
That said, Trump gives him competition in his own 'moral' way and is the last person who should be mocking the physical attributes of another. Of course he has established a pattern of that already with the disabled reporter, Fiorina etc.
Whatever it is though, it's not something anyone SHOULD want from their president.
But pay no attention folks. It's a lesser evil...
Just for fairness and not to be argumentative to the poster; I thought the incinerated babies (per a company Romney was involved in) has been debunked.
Per Mother Jones and I've said MoJo actually has some decent journalistic stories, this on the company Stericycle:
Romney Invested in Medical-Waste Firm That Disposed of Aborted Fetuses, Government Documents Show
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/romney-bain-abortion-stericycle-sec
But LifeNews posted in response:
Left-Wing Blogs Falsely Attack Romney on Abortion, Stericycle
http://www.lifenews.com/2012/07/04/left-wing-blogs-falsely-attack-romney-on-abortion-stericycle/
Excerpted:
. But, in the process, it hopes to confuse pro-life advocates who are supporting Romney into thinking that somehow he was the owner and operator of Stericycle and somehow approved of its business disposing the bodies of victims of abortion.
The pro-abortion blog notes that Romney had been part of a 1999 investment group that invested $75 million in Stericycle, a medical-waste disposal firm and makes the wild-eyed claim that the information has “the potential to damage the candidate’s reputation among values voters already suspicious of his shifting position on abortion.”
Bain contends “Romney left the firm in February 1999 to run the troubled 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City and likely had nothing to with the deal” but Mother Jones claims to have found documents showing Romney was involved in the investment. Bain says Romney left well before the November 1999 deal while the pro-abortion blog contends “SEC documents undercut that defense, indicating that Romney still played a role in Bain investments until at least the end of 1999.”
Bain explained further, “Mitt Romney retired from Bain Capital in February 1999. He has had no involvement in the management or investment activities of Bain Capital, or with any of its portfolio companies since that time.”
Assuming Romney was involved with Bain through the end of 1999 and involved in the deal obviously doesn’t make him responsible for Stericycle’s business collected aborted babies from abortion clinics. Bain itself — after Romney left the company — divested from Stericycle well before it began its abortion-connected operations.
I know too, it wasn't only a "left wing" blog saying that but a website that was just about Mitt's "dirty laundry" and so on. This is 4 years ago, I read up on it; and I thought Romney was in the clear on this accusation.
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Trump: Romney 'walks like a penguin'
The presumptive GOP nominee lashed out at 2012 nominee Mitt Romney, saying he “walks like a penguin.” “Poor Mitt Romney. I have a store that’s worth more money than he is,” Trump said in Anaheim, Calif. “I understand losers. You can make a lot of money with losers,” Trump said, before adding that the former Massachusetts governor “choked like a dog. He’s a choker.”
Next up: Rick Perry, who bashed Trump on the trail as a “cancer” to conservatism but ultimately endorsed him.
“I got a call, Rick Perry, he made the nicest speech. He actually said something to the effect that [I was] perhaps the smartest person to run for the presidency. He found out, he knew.” While noting that Jeb Bush hasn’t endorsed him yet, Trump predicted the Florida governor “will get a burst of energy and he will do it,” a reference to his repeated barbs that Bush was “low energy.” “They talk badly, you talk badly, that’s how it works,” Trump said.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/281267-trump-romney-walks-like-a-penguin
A man with an insult for everyone. Most people can discuss politics without resorting to personal insults. Its the mind of a child. I guess we want an infant for president.
TRUTH: Trump detests everyone but himself. Never believe he likes you as you are only around for what he can get from you.
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Just for fairness and not to be argumentative to the poster; I thought the incinerated babies (per a company Romney was involved in) has been debunked.
No, Stericycle very much incinerates 'medical waste' including Aborted children. The 'debunking' was pure spin.
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No, Stericycle very much incinerates 'medical waste' including Aborted children. The 'debunking' was pure spin.
Oh, that's persuasive.
I'll take your word over lifenews. Yeah, that's the ticket and all of the pro-life organizations that endorsed Mitt Romney.
http://www.aboutmittromney.com/pro-life-endorsements.htm
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"Spin", a good way of saying one's argument is disingenuous or even dishonest, I guess when the highly regarded R. Reagan is shown to have signed an abortion bill in California, well, gee, we just had the most Conservative Candidate in 30 years with Ted Cruz.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/223437/reagans-darkest-hour-paul-kengor-patricia-clark-doerner
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But, it's not even about Romney; or even penguins. It's about a pathetic manchild aspiring to the highest office in the land.
A disgusting boorish man.
Precisely.
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Hey! @Chosen Daughter. Guess what? 88devil
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I am hardly making any effort. I did nothing Donald did it for me. He opens his mouth and personal insults spew forth.
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Trump isn't in the same universe of decent,moral human beings that Mitt Romney is in. I never understood all the anger at Romney. I would vote for him again if he were a 3rd party nominee.
Just a little reminder about Willard Romney:
How Romney Began Journey on Abortion (http://townhall.com/columnists/byronyork/2012/01/05/how_romney_began_journey_on_abortion)
In 1993, Mitt Romney was a successful businessman with an urge to enter public life and a plan to challenge Ted Kennedy for a Senate seat from Massachusetts.
How Romney handled that dilemma is described in a new book, "Mitt Romney: An Inside Look at the Man and His Politics," by Boston journalist Ronald Scott. A Mormon who admires Romney but has had his share of disagreements with him, Scott knew Romney from local church matters in the late 1980s.
Scott had worked for Time Inc., and in the fall of 1993, he says, Romney asked him for advice on how to handle various issues the media might pursue in a Senate campaign. Scott gave his advice in a couple of phone conversations and a memo. In the course of the conversations, Scott says, Romney outlined his views on the abortion problem.
According to Scott, Romney revealed that polling from Richard Wirthlin, Ronald Reagan's former pollster whom Romney had hired for the '94 campaign, showed it would be impossible for a pro-life candidate to win statewide office in Massachusetts. In light of that, Romney decided to run as a pro-choice candidate, pledging to support Roe v. Wade, while remaining personally pro-life.
In November 1993, according to Scott, Romney said he and Wirthlin, a Mormon whose brother and father were high-ranking church officials, traveled to Salt Lake City to meet with church elders. Gathering in the Church Administration Building, Romney, in Scott's words, "laid out for church leaders ... what his public position would be on abortion -- personally opposed but willing to let others decide for themselves."
By Scott's account, Romney wasn't seeking approval or permission; he was telling the officials what he was going to do. Scott quotes a "senior church leader" as saying Romney "didn't ask what his position should be, nor did he ask the brethren to endorse his position. He came to explain, and his explanation was consistent with church teachings and policies."
According to Scott, some of the leaders were unhappy with Romney's plan and let him know it. "I may not have burned bridges, but a few of them were singed and smoking," Romney told Scott in a phone conversation.
In Scott's account, Romney displayed plenty of independence from church influence. But why did he feel the need to brief church leaders in the first place? The Romney campaign declined to comment on that or any other aspect of Scott's book. A Mormon church spokesman said only, "I do not know of the meeting, but it is our policy not to comment on private meetings anyway."
Scott has his own view. "(Romney) was not obliged to brief them," Scott said in an interview. "He probably was obliged to let them know as a matter of courtesy before he would take some stands on various issues that would raise eyebrows, because he was a fairly important officer of the church."
In any event, the episode points to a brief period in Romney's life in which his roles as a church official and as an emerging political figure overlapped. (Romney declared his candidacy for the Senate on Feb. 2, 1994, and stepped down as a Mormon leader on March 20.)
Romney went on to lose in a campaign that featured Kennedy attacking Romney's religion. Romney pointed out the irony of Kennedy -- whose brother John F. Kennedy faced attacks on his Catholicism in the 1960 presidential campaign -- launching religion-based attacks, but to no avail.
If Romney is the 2012 Republican nominee, he will surely face similar stuff. Much of it will undoubtedly be ugly and unjustified. But there will also be simple questions about Romney's role as a church official at the start of his political career.
Lately, Romney has begun to speak a little more openly about his church work. In a Dec. 12 Republican debate in Iowa, he mentioned his overseas missionary service and said, "I also spent time in this country, serving as a pastor in my church." By all accounts, Romney did a lot of good in his time as a Mormon official, and that work was a significant part of his life. In the coming campaign, voters will want to know more about it.
This "faux" position continued up until he decided to look to national office. Do you not remember this from 2002?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_w9pquznG4
An honorable man does not act in this fashion, switching from pro-life to pro-abortion to pro-life based upon political expediency.
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I have to disagree with just about everyone here. Romney is out in public bad mouthing the Republican nominee. So, as nominee, how should you react? Make reasoned arguments and give Romney credibility? Just let it go? The press wouldn't even cover it.
Nope. Trump devastated Romney with just five words. It made the news. It worked perfectly. The message is that Mitt is a has been loser. It came across loud and clear. Now, if Romney ever makes news again, anyone watching won't hear his message. They will be thinking about penguins. Pure genius.
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He continues to insult and attack people; the very people who could help him win the presidency. He's opened the door wide open for Hillary; though I'm still predicting Hillary will step down and we will see a Sander/Warren ticket. Donny is going to lose and lose big.
#NeverTrump :patriot:
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I have to disagree with just about everyone here. Romney is out in public bad mouthing the Republican nominee. So, as nominee, how should you react? Make reasoned arguments and give Romney credibility? Just let it go?
Yes, of course. Just let it go. The biggest insult you can levy at a person is to act as if they are irrelevant. Trump's apparently compulsion to respond to anyone who insults or opposes him is something most people grow out of by their early 20's. It makes him look petty and small to a whole lot of people. The only people in his cheering section are those already to committed to voting for him, so there is absolutely no benefit to doing it. Zero. In fact, all he did was validate Romney's criticisms about Trump making juvenile insults.
I'm honestly fascinated by the mindset that thinks this was a good idea.
Nope. Trump devastated Romney with just five words. It made the news. It worked perfectly. The message is that Mitt is a has been loser. It came across loud and clear. Now, if Romney ever makes news again, anyone watching won't hear his message. They will be thinking about penguins. Pure genius.
Gotta say that I don't even see the penguin thing at all. It's not like the "low energy" comment about Jeb that seemed to fit. It's just random. And at least the comment about Jeb was about someone who was an opposing candidate in the primaries, so there was some value to taking him down a peg.
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I have to disagree with just about everyone here. Romney is out in public bad mouthing the Republican nominee. So, as nominee, how should you react? Make reasoned arguments and give Romney credibility? Just let it go? The press wouldn't even cover it.
Nope. Trump devastated Romney with just five words. It made the news. It worked perfectly. The message is that Mitt is a has been loser. It came across loud and clear. Now, if Romney ever makes news again, anyone watching won't hear his message. They will be thinking about penguins. Pure genius.
Trump didn't devastate anyone; he simply made himself look like a ridiculous, insecure loser.
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I have to disagree with just about everyone here. Romney is out in public bad mouthing the Republican nominee. So, as nominee, how should you react? Make reasoned arguments and give Romney credibility? Just let it go? The press wouldn't even cover it.
Nope. Trump devastated Romney with just five words. It made the news. It worked perfectly. The message is that Mitt is a has been loser. It came across loud and clear. Now, if Romney ever makes news again, anyone watching won't hear his message. They will be thinking about penguins. Pure genius.
Baloney. Trump reinforces his character as that of an out of control eight year old, whose parents allow outbursts and tantrums, lest they make their darling feel bad about himself.
Regarding which, I wonder how Trump supporters with eight year old's are dealing with this with their children?
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Willard Cobblepot :tongue2:
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He still continues to attack Republicans. Wow.
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Trump is just a horrible human being.
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Baloney. Trump reinforces his character as that of an out of control eight year old, whose parents allow outbursts and tantrums, lest they make their darling feel bad about himself.
Regarding which, I wonder how Trump supporters with eight year old's are dealing with this with their children?
Thank you for stating the obvious! I can't believe that any adult would see any benefit in childish insults. Donald needs to grow up before he runs for President. I am not a Romney fan but this is ridiculous. It is one thing to use the mistakes of politicians to make clear your point. But to talk about the way a person walks? Immature, immature, immature. Trump cult followers want to elect Toddler in Chief. I can never vote for such an unstable person of moral weakness.
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I have to disagree with just about everyone here. Romney is out in public bad mouthing the Republican nominee. So, as nominee, how should you react? Make reasoned arguments and give Romney credibility? Just let it go? The press wouldn't even cover it.
Nope. Trump devastated Romney with just five words. It made the news. It worked perfectly. The message is that Mitt is a has been loser. It came across loud and clear. Now, if Romney ever makes news again, anyone watching won't hear his message. They will be thinking about penguins. Pure genius.
Nonsense. Most Republicans know Romney to be a decent human being, and even most Trump supporters know Trump to be a sewer dweller. It's typical for Trump to lash out like this.
You may think this is cute. Most decent people, however, think it''s juvenile behavior. He's not dealing with a bunch of cultic followers any longer. He's got to try to attract Democrats and Independents and this kind of stupidity won't do it.
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Now we're supposed to be incensed because Trump does the same "genus" of thing as we did back in 2012? (Yes, a different species but definitely the same genus).
Not about Romney.
Trump is now the leader of the Republican Party and he is attacking members of that party over how they walk (I got a bum knee) or because he isn't rich enough.
I know I'm not rich enough. I'm just a "loser" to this clown prince.
I'm not ever voting for this freak. I can say honestly he is one of the few people I truly hate with a passion.
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Trump devastated Romney with just five words. It made the news.
Now that he's the nominee, the point of the candidacy is not to make the news by devastating Romney, or Martinez, or Cruz, or any other Republican. He's not running against them and he needs broad Republican support. The point now is to become President of the United States.
Every time Trump opens his mouth with this continued puerile nonsense he loses voters, he doesn't gain them.
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I have to disagree with just about everyone here. Romney is out in public bad mouthing the Republican nominee. So, as nominee, how should you react? Make reasoned arguments and give Romney credibility? Just let it go? The press wouldn't even cover it.
Nope. Trump devastated Romney with just five words. It made the news. It worked perfectly. The message is that Mitt is a has been loser. It came across loud and clear. Now, if Romney ever makes news again, anyone watching won't hear his message. They will be thinking about penguins. Pure genius.
He only 'devastated' Romney to those who already are his supporters. To everyone else, he looks like an <bleep> attacking a private citizen speaking his mind. Since he's also attacked other private citizens, it makes the undecided and non-supporters wonder if they are next.
In essence, either convert or die
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The point now is to become President of the United States.
I don't think that is true for a lot of Trump supporters. I really don't. For them, the priority is catharsis - being able to get years or even decades of frustration off their chests. And given a choice between venting their emotions and actually winning, those people chose the former every time.
It's the only explanation that makes sense. When else have we seen an election with supporters of the candidate openly telling swing voters that they don't want their votes? To them, the purity of the movement is paramount, and they don't want it soiled by the half-hearted votes of the cynical faithless.
It's the most bizarre thing I've ever seen in politics in my lifetime.
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Not about Romney.
Trump is now the leader of the Republican Party and he is attacking members of that party over how they walk (I got a bum knee) or because he isn't rich enough.
I know I'm not rich enough. I'm just a "loser" to this clown prince.
I'm not ever voting for this freak. I can say honestly he is one of the few people I truly hate with a passion.
I got it (not about Romney).
I also have got it that Trump is like an elementary school playground bully. His primary persuasive technique is name calling and, frankly, I tend to believe that if he thought he could get away with it, encouraging his followers to commit physical violence against any who would dare oppose him.
But defending Romney when Trump acts like Trump?
Are we supposed to defend Rosie, Shillery, Obama, also?
Sorry, but I can't see myself ever defending Willard.
All I ask is pick another victim to use as an example...Michelle Fields, miscellaneous disabled veterans, or whoever. Just not this one.
I find it utterly impossible to have sympathy for Willard Mitt Romney.
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I don't think that is true for a lot of Trump supporters. I really don't. For them, the priority is catharsis - being able to get years or even decades of frustration off their chests. And given a choice between venting their emotions and actually winning, those people chose the former every time.
I've stated elsewhere on this forum my belief that Trump voters are attracted to his belligerence, and will entertain virtually any distortion of logic to pretend that there is substance behind that belligerence. I had not taken it to the conclusion that they would prefer to lose while emoting rather than to win while maintaining emotional restraint, but I think you're on to something there Maj. Bill.
I'll have to ponder your thought that Trump voters are concerned about the purity of their movement. I have thought they are simply optimistic about their numbers, believing they have the luxury of alienating anti-Trump Republicans and Conservatives.
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The reason I do not believe it is just optimism is that in one breath they will say that he's going to win in a landslide, but in the next breath they say that if he loses it will be the fault of #neverTrump supporting Hillary.
They know it's not a lock. They just don't care.
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But defending Romney when Trump acts like Trump?
I am not defending Romney.
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I don't think that is true for a lot of Trump supporters. I really don't. For them, the priority is catharsis - being able to get years or even decades of frustration off their chests. And given a choice between venting their emotions and actually winning, those people chose the former every time.
It's the only explanation that makes sense. When else have we seen an election with supporters of the candidate openly telling swing voters that they don't want their votes? To them, the purity of the movement is paramount, and they don't want it soiled by the half-hearted votes of the cynical faithless.
It's the most bizarre thing I've ever seen in politics in my lifetime.
There is another that makes sense.
If you start from the premise that these people are first and foremost, liberals, it all falls into place with no further explanation needed.
To provide evidence, I would direct you (anyone) to their records of support for the past several elections. No matter how leftist the GOP nominee, Senate, House, President... they were there with bells on.
The excuse is always 'pragmatism'. Now what is the actual/literal/functional between a Democrat voting for a liberal and a Republican liberal voting for a liberal? None. Because the liberal elected is the achieved end.
So the question is "Why not simply vote Dem to begin with?" And thats a legit question to ask. The answer is that if you want to destroy something, you have the best results doing it from within. And thats exactly what the facts in evidence show. You have a group of people that are wholly opposed to Social Conservatism and the party platform, pro gay everything, pro atheist, pro abortion and the rest, redefining the very word 'conservatism' and incrementally whittling away all the legs of the chair. They have done it since Reagan left office from the shadows and over the last 10 years are increasingly open about it.
The people so well represented by the animals currently populating FR, are opposed to literally every traditional conservative principle and abandoned them to back a lifetime liberal. There was no Damascus conversion TO liberalism. They started off Liberal and Sabotaged conservatives/conservatism INTENTIONALLY.
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I'm not defending Romney.
Trump has no quality to serve as President. He is an immature child who got older. Now he is an immature adult.
He is a narcissist. He is only interested in "winning" - it doesn't matter what he has to do to "win", his followers can't seem to look past the "Game" component of the race. Somehow they have lost sight of what winning the White House actually entails. It makes no difference to his supporters (or Trump) what Trump will DO, if he's elected. It's only about THIS moment... "How can I bully? How can I gain an edge? How can I ridicule the opposition? How can I vanquish the foe? What lie can I tell?"
This short sightedness is a direct result of a cultural shift that has been in the works for a few decades. It's described variously as the "Me Generation", "Instantaneous gratification", "Reality TV culture", "Entitlement", and "Vicarious Living." They started out as channel surfers and now they are web-surfers. They need not invest much. They say, "other people will satisfy my interests and entertain me until I get tired of them and move on." They don't know sacrifice.
They don't know the cost of liberty.
Trump has no capability to manage the affairs of the nation, he lacks the character that would make him even marginally "good." His "greatness" is in his mirror. His childish, self-centered behavior will not lead to a successful Presidency. He does not have some other "persona" to adopt. (Even so, I would not want a man who changes his "persona" the way Trump promises that he would.) He won't change. WYSIWYG, unfortunately.
The Romney "penguin" remark is classic Trump. He uses childish name-calling, gets it to stick by repeating it, and Lo! all the minions are drawn him like a new and shiny distraction. They will marvel at how very great their chosen leader is at "winning."
Trump is a useless man. I have no regard for him. There is no honor in his victory because he is not motivated to do anything other that win - beyond that he has nothing to offer. He is a "Fail" in the making.
I won't be a part of it.
Honor and Courage dictate otherwise.
KR
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I am not defending Romney.
I understand that.
But we see a phenomenon here where, to some, Romney suddenly becomes the epitome of conservatism simply because he opposes Trump.
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I have to disagree with just about everyone here. Romney is out in public bad mouthing the Republican nominee. So, as nominee, how should you react? Make reasoned arguments and give Romney credibility? Just let it go? The press wouldn't even cover it.
Nope. Trump devastated Romney with just five words. It made the news. It worked perfectly. The message is that Mitt is a has been loser. It came across loud and clear. Now, if Romney ever makes news again, anyone watching won't hear his message. They will be thinking about penguins. Pure genius.
goopo @Poser
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I understand that.
But we see a phenomenon here where, to some, Romney suddenly becomes the epitome of conservatism simply because he opposes Trump.
:thumbsup3: @markomalley
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I have to disagree with just about everyone here. Romney is out in public bad mouthing the Republican nominee. So, as nominee, how should you react? Make reasoned arguments and give Romney credibility? Just let it go? The press wouldn't even cover it.
Nope. Trump devastated Romney with just five words. It made the news. It worked perfectly. The message is that Mitt is a has been loser. It came across loud and clear. Now, if Romney ever makes news again, anyone watching won't hear his message. They will be thinking about penguins. Pure genius.
And Rubio devastated Trump with two words: "small hands."
And you know it pisses him off to no end. Few people can watch Trump, see his hands, and not be thinking about.....well, you know.
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I understand that.
But we see a phenomenon here where, to some, Romney suddenly becomes the epitome of conservatism simply because he opposes Trump.
I didn't even support Romney after he had the nomination in 2012. I was open about that on FR too.
(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m13/geronl/rom2012.jpg)
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I also posted things like this is 2012.
Free Republican has completely failed since then.
(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m13/geronl/notfr.jpg)
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And you know it pisses him off to no end. Few people can watch Trump, see his hands, and not be thinking about.....well, you know.
You mean onanism?