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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: sinkspur on November 25, 2015, 06:52:40 pm
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Jeb: Trump intentionally provokes anger against Muslims to divide the country
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiNXft3Ze_M
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No, he is merely giving voice to the anger that all ready exists. After Paris, Americans are fed up with being told, yet again, they have to ignore what they are seeing with their own eyes going on in the Islamic world, just to avoid upsetting the tender PC sensibilities of the Political/Business/Media class.
You can only lie to the American people so long. Eventually they get fed up and do something about it.
If the DC crowd is upset about Trump's success, they can look at their own defiantly corrupt, incompetent image in the mirror to see it's source.
DC has screwed up everything it has touched for almost 3 decades now. They are reaping the whirlwind in Trump.
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The irony is thick that just a few years ago, Trump was accusing Pam Gellar of the same thing. Shows hell flip flop faster than John Kerry reminding everyone he served in Nam.
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Anger that is earned. Where are the 'moderate' muzzies upset or in the streets protesting against sharia? Why is jeb still around?
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Actually when Jeb speaks, I either tune him out or turn the channel. He makes my skin crawl. I don't believe anything that he says, he is one of the biggest RINO's out there and he would love nothing more than to maintain our open borders, have everyone speaking Spanish and continue "Common Core" until our children our indoctrinated with the ideals of the liberal progressives and their push for a One World Order. He cannot be trusted and is certainly not an American patriot.
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Anger is no substitute for reason.
The pathway to getting your way in politics, is convincing more and more voters to your side.
I saw an analysis recently (and I have shown my own) stating Republicans make up 25-30 percent of voters. So if Trump is favored by 30% of 30% it means his supporters represent just 9% of the electorate.
Other analysis and polls have shown that Trump (and Cruz) fare the worst against Hillary or the other democrats.
So to me at this time, all the rancor over Trump is much to do over nothing.
Who would have admitted a few weeks ago that national security would be the hot topic of the race?
We still have a lot of topics, like healthcare, abortion, homosexual rights, race relations, taxation, etc.
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Actually when Jeb speaks, I either tune him out or turn the channel. He makes my skin crawl. I don't believe anything that he says, he is one of the biggest RINO's out there and he would love nothing more than to maintain our open borders, have everyone speaking Spanish and continue "Common Core" until our children our indoctrinated with the ideals of the liberal progressives and their push for a One World Order. He cannot be trusted and is certainly not an American patriot.
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Anger is no substitute for reason.
The pathway to getting your way in politics, is convincing more and more voters to your side.
I saw an analysis recently (and I have shown my own) stating Republicans make up 25-30 percent of voters. So if Trump is favored by 30% of 30% it means his supporters represent just 9% of the electorate.
Other analysis and polls have shown that Trump (and Cruz) fare the worst against Hillary or the other democrats.
So to me at this time, all the rancor over Trump is much to do over nothing.
Who would have admitted a few weeks ago that national security would be the hot topic of the race?
We still have a lot of topics, like healthcare, abortion, homosexual rights, race relations, taxation, etc.
My hunch is the Trump will have the GOP voting base in his favor on the above mentioned topics as well; especially health care and taxation. Cruz will gain favorability with those topics as well...and also religious freedom, limited government and the Constitution.
If either Trump or Cruz gets the nomination --- it's over for Hillary...you will see voter turn out like never before. I don't believe for a nano second that Hillary would fare better.
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Anger that is earned. Where are the 'moderate' muzzies upset or in the streets protesting against sharia? Why is jeb still around?
Where is sharia law in effect in this country? I must have missed that.
Jeb has money and is going to be around for a while. He's frankly a sane counter-voice to Trump.
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Actually when Jeb speaks, I either tune him out or turn the channel. He makes my skin crawl. I don't believe anything that he says, he is one of the biggest RINO's out there and he would love nothing more than to maintain our open borders, have everyone speaking Spanish and continue "Common Core" until our children our indoctrinated with the ideals of the liberal progressives and their push for a One World Order. He cannot be trusted and is certainly not an American patriot.
What a crock! Since when do YOU get to determine who's a patriot and who's not?
You a member of the Keepers Of Odd Knowledge too?
Cruz makes my skin crawl with his sanctimony, but I still listen to him.
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If Jeb had any more of a tin ear, he could join a summer stock cast of The Wizard of Oz.
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My hunch is the Trump will have the GOP voting base in his favor on the above mentioned topics as well; especially health care and taxation. Cruz will gain favorability with those topics as well...and also religious freedom, limited government and the Constitution.
If either Trump or Cruz gets the nomination --- it's over for Hillary...you will see voter turn out like never before. I don't believe for a nano second that Hillary would fare better.
Trump is for universal health care. Notice, he never talks about it. And Trump wants to raise taxes on the wealthy but he never defines who's wealthy. Trump is not a limited government guy, either. He believes in government, for sure.
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Jeb is tone-deaf as to how many Americans feel about the death cult known as Islam. ISIS is doing exactly what the Koran instructs them to do with non-believers, and Jeb, Hillary, and the rest of the entrenched DC establishment continues to pretend this is some sort of extremist faction of Islam, and that somehow ignoring this reality by not mentioning it will make it go away.
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Jeb is tone-deaf as to how many Americans feel about the death cult known as Islam. ISIS is doing exactly what the Koran instructs them to do with non-believers, and Jeb, Hillary, and the rest of the entrenched DC establishment continues to pretend this is some sort of extremist faction of Islam, and that somehow ignoring this reality by not mentioning it will make it go away.
No public figure is going to accuse all Muslims of wanting to kill everybody else.
And, frankly, I don't believe that either.
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Jeb is tone-deaf as to how many Americans feel about the death cult known as Islam.
Glad you set that standard, are you going to equally apply it?
Trump: Pamela Geller 'Taunting Everybody' With Muhammad Event
..."I watched Pam prior, and it looks like she's just taunting everybody," said Trump. "What is she doing? Drawing Muhammad and it looks like she's taunting people."
And while he called the violence "disgusting," Trump said he wonders "what are they doing drawing Muhammad? Isn't there something else they can draw? They can't do something else? They have to be in the middle of Texas and on Muhammad?"
He said he has to question why Geller would organize such an event.
"You know, I'm one that believes in free speech, probably more than she does," said Trump. "What's the purpose of this? She's taunting them...I don't know, maybe she likes risk. What the hell is she doing?"...
Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Donald-Trump-Pamela-Geller-Geert-Wilders-Muhammad/2015/05/04/id/642397/#ixzz3sXGIjYrr
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Glad you set that standard, are you going to equally apply it?
You must have me confused with a Trump supporter. Trump was wrong then, too, but has changed his tune. Jeb said this yesterday, which is disturbing to me.
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Where is sharia law in effect in this country? I must have missed that.
Jeb has money and is going to be around for a while. He's frankly a sane counter-voice to Trump.
I used the word sharia because it is the most violent type of islam. Oh prez obama has a sharia law czar.
http://canadafreepress.com/article/16258
https://investmentwatchblog.com/seattle-debates-sharia-law-sanctioned-housing-in-which-muslims-will-pay-no-interest-on-loans/
:silly: funny counter voice for Trump :laugh: Yeah mrtippytoes is a counter voice. :silly:
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I used the word sharia because it is the most violent type of islam. Oh prez obama has a sharia law czar.
http://canadafreepress.com/article/16258
https://investmentwatchblog.com/seattle-debates-sharia-law-sanctioned-housing-in-which-muslims-will-pay-no-interest-on-loans/
:silly: funny counter voice for Trump :laugh: Yeah mrtippytoes is a counter voice. :silly:
The Catholic Church has its own church law that governs its followers; it's called Canon Law. If Muslims want their own laws for their religious communities I have no problem with it, nor should you.
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The Catholic Church has its own church law that governs its followers; it's called Canon Law. If Muslims want their own laws for their religious communities I have no problem with it, nor should you.
..but we don't stone women to death or chop someone's head off in the public square....are you going to have a problem with that when it starts happening...
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The Catholic Church has its own church law that governs its followers; it's called Canon Law. If Muslims want their own laws for their religious communities I have no problem with it, nor should you.
Spare me the misrepresentation. Sharia law is meant to be supreme law, and is used as such in Muslim dominated countries, and they are attempting to do so here. Your assertion is absolutely intellectually dishonest.
We're not even getting into the nasty details of what sharia is and how it treats those under it.
Have a nice Wednesday.
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The Catholic Church has its own church law that governs its followers; it's called Canon Law. If Muslims want their own laws for their religious communities I have no problem with it, nor should you.
Good grief sink! I remember reading all those articles about Catholics putting men in cages and burning them alive, or having a 6 year old Catholic boy beheading someone. Yeah read those articles all the time. :smokin:
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..but we don't stone women to death or chop someone's head off in the public square....are you going to have a problem with that when it starts happening...
You're saying Muslims in America want to enact their own justice system? They can't do that and you and I know that. It won't happen.
But letting them loan money at no interest? Why have a problem with that?
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Spare me the misrepresentation. Sharia law is meant to be supreme law, and is used as such in Muslim dominated countries, and they are attempting to do so here. Your assertion is absolutely intellectually dishonest.
We're not even getting into the nasty details of what sharia is and how it treats those under it.
Have a nice Wednesday.
Nope. The tenets of sharia law adopted in most of these cases has to do with financial arrangements, not a separate justice system.
Normally sane posters jump offside when anything having to do with Islam is mentioned.
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You're saying Muslims in America want to enact their own justice system?
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/06/24/shock-poll-51-of-american-muslims-want-sharia-25-okay-with-violence-against-americans/
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I saw an analysis recently (and I have shown my own) stating Republicans make up 25-30 percent of voters. So if Trump is favored by 30% of 30% it means his supporters represent just 9% of the electorate.
Based on this analysis, Bush is favored by 5 percent of 25 percent, which puts him at around 1.25 percent representative of the electorate.
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Glad you set that standard, are you going to equally apply it?
Hmm the suggestion that Gellar's actions are a kin to walking into a minority neighborhood bar and screaming out racial epitaphs at the patrons?
You can do it, but what is the point?
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No public figure is going to accuse all Muslims of wanting to kill everybody else.
And, frankly, I don't believe that either.
Then you don't know a thing about Islam!
Jihad is a FUNDAMENTAL tenant of that "religion" and the ONLY provocation they need to kill you is for you to refuse to become one of them!
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The Catholic Church has its own church law that governs its followers; it's called Canon Law. If Muslims want their own laws for their religious communities I have no problem with it, nor should you.
Your ignorance as to what encompasses Sharia Law and its punishments is stunning to me.
Will you bring up the Crusades, too, like Obama does?
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Then you don't know a thing about Islam!
Jihad is a FUNDAMENTAL tenant of that "religion" and the ONLY provocation they need to kill you is for you to refuse to become one of them!
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My Muslim neighbor has never threatened to kill me cuz I'm Catholic.
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Your ignorance as to what encompasses Sharia Law and its punishments is stunning to me.
Will you bring up the Crusades, too, like Obama does?
And your willingness to swallow whole what every conspiracy website has to say about the application of Sharia Law in the United States is not stunning to me. I fully expected it.
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You're saying Muslims in America want to enact their own justice system? They can't do that and you and I know that. It won't happen.
But letting them loan money at no interest? Why have a problem with that?
You're embarrassing yourself. Are you sure you're on the right board?
Muslims are ANGRY at Texas Mayor After She Stops “Sharia Court”… Here Is Her EPIC Response!
This radical group of Muslims is not pleased with the Mayor of Irving, Texas after she put the end to America’s first “Sharia Court.” Mayor Beth Van Duyne has accused mosque leaders of creating separate laws for Muslims, which is why the city voted to stop these supposedly “voluntary” tribunals from operating.
In a very close 5-4 vote, the city of Irving ruled to back the Texas state bill banning foreign law from the state. The bill doesn’t mention Sharia or any religion, but it’s a huge defeat for Sharia supporters, as such courts are in violation of the U.S. Constitution.
Read more: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/muslims-are-angry-at-texas-mayor-after-she-stops-sharia-court-here-is-her-epic-response/#ixzz3sXVtvYA2
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My Muslim neighbor has never threatened to kill me cuz I'm Catholic.
Give him time!
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Jeb? Jeb who?
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My Muslim neighbor has never threatened to kill me cuz I'm Catholic.
That's pretty all encompassing. Let's get those Syrians over here as fast as we can, I mean, if Sink's neighbor is ok, then what do we have to worry about.
By the way, even if your neighbor wanted to kill you, he'd likely not tell you before he did it. Just sayin'.
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Your ignorance as to what encompasses Sharia Law and its punishments is stunning to me.
Will you bring up the Crusades, too, like Obama does?
You mean the Christian response to the Islamic invasion and conquest of the Holy Lands from the Christian Byzantium Empire? Those Crusades?
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That's pretty all encompassing. Let's get those Syrians over here as fast as we can, I mean, if Sink's neighbor is ok, then what do we have to worry about.
By the way, even if your neighbor wanted to kill you, he'd likely not tell you before he did it. Just sayin'.
Logical fallacy #479: Just because a thing has not yet happened means that it will never happen.
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You mean the Christian response to the Islamic invasion and conquest of the Holy Lands from the Christian Byzantium Empire? Those Crusades?
I think that is exactly what he is talking about! The short period of time when Christians actually fought back after about 400 years of Muslim persecution!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs2EXVNtRB8
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Jeb has money and is going to be around for a while. He's frankly a sane counter-voice to Trump.
:facepalm:
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Based on this analysis, Bush is favored by 5 percent of 25 percent, which puts him at around 1.25 percent representative of the electorate.
Yes, he is trailing very badly considering the built in advatages of his name and money. I think he will not be the nominee.
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Yes, he is trailing very badly considering the built in advatages of his name and money. I think he will not be the nominee.
I wonder if he will drop out of the race before or after they move him to the kiddie debate table. Hopefully Rubio will have enough money to hang in there, if not, Jeb will take his seconds; it appears that where Rubio is getting his money is now under scrutiny.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-north-patterson/marco-rubio-and-dark-mone_b_8594430.html
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I wonder if he will drop out of the race before or after they move him to the kiddie debate table. Hopefully Rubio will have enough money to hang in there, if not, Jeb will take his seconds; it appears that where Rubio is getting his money is now under scrutiny.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-north-patterson/marco-rubio-and-dark-mone_b_8594430.html
LOL!! This writer spends half the article railing against Citizens United before he even gets to Rubio and, it turns out, he is funded by the same "dark money" that funds Hillary and other candidates.
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My hunch is the Trump will have the GOP voting base in his favor on the above mentioned topics as well; especially health care and taxation. Cruz will gain favorability with those topics as well...and also religious freedom, limited government and the Constitution.
If either Trump or Cruz gets the nomination --- it's over for Hillary...you will see voter turn out like never before. I don't believe for a nano second that Hillary would fare better.
Kellyanne Conway pollster says her data is showing a slight softening in Trump's support; and she said the candidate who is surging at the moment is Ted Cruz.
She predicts a real race coming up in Iowa and elsewhere.
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I don't like Cruz and won't vote for him in a primary, but I'll get behind anybody who can take down Trump.
We can't afford a clown entertainer in the Oval Office.
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"Jeb: Trump intentionally provokes anger against muslims to divide the country"
Actually, I believe this to be a very good idea.
We NEED "anger" against muslims.
We NEED such "division", if we (of The West) expect to win this struggle.
They don't belong here.
What muslims believe in is anathema to Western Civilization.
I don't have any problems with this.
Say whatever you wish.
I don't care and I won't be changing my mind.
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sinkspur wrote above:
"The Catholic Church has its own church law that governs its followers; it's called Canon Law. If muslims want their own laws for their religious communities I have no problem with it, nor should you."
Egads.
sharia (under islam) is a system of behavior that muslims impose on EVERYBODY in islamic nations once they have control.
Can you see the difference?
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"Jeb: Trump intentionally provokes anger against muslims to divide the country"
Actually, I believe this to be a very good idea.
We NEED "anger" against muslims.
We NEED such "division", if we (of The West) expect to win this struggle.
They don't belong here.
What muslims believe in is anathema to Western Civilization.
I don't have any problems with this.
Say whatever you wish.
I don't care and I won't be changing my mind.
(http://i.imgur.com/aEL6xxJ.jpg)
OK.
This is perverted thinking.
Should we be separating whites from blacks too?
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OK.
This is perverted thinking.
Should we be separating whites from blacks too?
What an odd question. How did you come up with it?
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Nope. The tenets of sharia law adopted in most of these cases has to do with financial arrangements, not a separate justice system.
Normally sane posters jump offside when anything having to do with Islam is mentioned.
Bullcrap. It doesn't work that way in any Muslim majority country and their legal system.
Have a nice Wednesday.
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Kellyanne Conway pollster says her data is showing a slight softening in Trump's support; and she said the candidate who is surging at the moment is Ted Cruz.
She predicts a real race coming up in Iowa and elsewhere.
My candidate right now is Ted Cruz. I like Trump for bringing up these issues, and I think The Donald is going to drop out at some point after he loses a few primaries and throw his support fully behind Cruz.
I admit I didn't like Cruz's shutdown performance and criticized it extensively on this board. Since then, though, I've heard what he says, and who he is, and have grown to admire him and his love of this country. People think Trump is Hillary's stalking horse. I thing Trump is setting the table for Cruz, and will do so willingly.
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My candidate right now is Ted Cruz. I like Trump for bringing up these issues, and I think The Donald is going to drop out at some point after he loses a few primaries and throw his support fully behind Cruz.
I admit I didn't like Cruz's shutdown performance and criticized it extensively on this board. Since then, though, I've heard what he says, and who he is, and have grown to admire him and his love of this country. People think Trump is Hillary's stalking horse. I thing Trump is setting the table for Cruz, and will do so willingly.
You could be right about Trump but you are for sure right about the man who needs to be our next president!
GO TED!!!
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You could be right about Trump but you are for sure right about the man who needs to be our next president!
GO TED!!!
TC would be a great POTUS. It is either he or Trump or we are screwed. The RinoGOP hates Cruz as much as Trump with one exception. TC needs donars and they feel he can be taken out easier. The GOPe can get to the donars but they cannot get to TRUMP. IMO either would be great. :patriot:
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TC would be a great POTUS. It is either he or Trump or we are screwed. The RinoGOP hates Cruz as much as Trump with one exception. TC needs donars and they feel he can be taken out easier. The GOPe can get to the donars but they cannot get to TRUMP. IMO either would be great. :patriot:
Trump is WAY to much of a gamble IMHO! :patriot:
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Anyone notice how Jeb does not hold the Islamic religion responsible for the actions of its following. According to Jeb, and all the rest of the Left-wing, it is not that Muslims worldwide are raping, murdering, and enslaving, whole villages that is causing caution and anger against them.
It is not that Muslims like to slaughter innocents by the hundreds everywhere in the world where Muslims exist that make people not want them around.
No. It has nothing to do with the murderous death cult. The reason people don't like Muslims is Trump's fault.
Jeb Bush really needs to run as Hillary's VP. He would have a much better campaign if he ran as a Democrat. He really would. His numbers would be ten times what he is polling as a Republican.
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Anyone notice how Jeb does not hold the Islamic religion responsible for the actions of its following. According to Jeb, and all the rest of the Left-wing, it is not that Muslims worldwide are raping, murdering, and enslaving, whole villages that is causing caution and anger against them.
It is not that Muslims like to slaughter innocents by the hundreds everywhere in the world where Muslims exist that make people not want them around.
No. It has nothing to do with the murderous death cult. The reason people don't like Muslims is Trump's fault.
Jeb Bush really needs to run as Hillary's VP. He would have a much better campaign if he ran as a Democrat. He really would. His numbers would be ten times what he is polling as a Republican.
Liberalism is socially-induced mental illness...
Happy Thanksgiving, 240. I always enjoy reading your posts.
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The more violent a religion the more the politically-correct (like the Bushes) rally to its defense. Christianity should have it so good...
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The more violent a religion the more the politically-correct (like the Bushes) rally to its defense. Christianity should have it so good...
You just nailed it. That is the whole reason the Left has such a fanatical hatred for Christianity over all other religions.
The reason Christianity does not fall under the umbrella of political correctness as a sanctioned 'victim-class' protected group is that they are too passive. To put it another way, their body-count is too low for them to qualify as a full member Leftist group.
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Liberalism is socially-induced mental illness...
Happy Thanksgiving, 240. I always enjoy reading your posts.
Thanks for that. My best to you and yours in return. I enjoy your posts as well. In fact, I enjoy all the posters, almost all, and really feel like I'm chatting with a group of friends, whether I am posting or just reading the site.