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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: ArneFufkin on April 10, 2016, 04:25:42 am

Title: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: ArneFufkin on April 10, 2016, 04:25:42 am
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/04/09/ted-cruz-sweeps-colorado/

Ted Cruz wrapped up the remaining 13 Colorado delegates on Saturday at the state Republican Party convention, winning every pledged Republican delegate from Colorado to the Republican National Convention.

The Cruz campaign distributed a list of 16 preferred delegates to those voting at the state convention. Once the votes were counted the 13 delegates elected Saturday were all Cruz-pledge delegates also listed on the Cruz slate. This brings the total of Cruz-pledged delegates from Colorado to 30 with an additional four unpledged delegates slated to vote for Cruz but not required to do so.

Upon announcement of the results, Cruz responded:

Quote
Today was another resounding victory for conservatives, Republicans, and Americans who care about the future of our country. Utah, North Dakota, Wisconsin, and tonight’s incredible results in Colorado have proven this: Republicans are uniting behind our campaign because they want a leader with real solutions who will bring back jobs, freedom, and security.

This election is about the hope that our children can still have a more promising landscape of opportunity than generations past. It’s about bringing together Americans from all backgrounds who know that we will be stronger, more prosperous, and infinitely more free if we return power in Washington back to the people. So that Americans are free to create better jobs, live and worship freely, and once again proudly defend ‘the last best hope of earth.

Thank you, Colorado, and we ask moms and dads, students and retirees across this country to join us so that together we make this election a turning point for the nation.
Donald Trump campaign senior advisor Alan Cobb told Breitbart News, “The results were a little better than we expected with seven of the alternates for Trump vs six for Cruz and zero for Kasich.”

During his speech to attendees, Cruz referenced Trump’s “Make America Great Again” campaign slogan, “Ya know it’s easy to talk about making America Great Again. You can even print that on a baseball cap. But the real question is, do you understand the principles and values that made America great in the first place?” The phrase was first made popular by President Ronald Reagan.

Cruz pledged to not compromise on religious liberty or second amendment rights and received resounding applause.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: EasyAce on April 10, 2016, 04:33:16 am
More "thievery" by the Cruz campaign I would imagine -  if I was a Trump zombie that is.

The usual natives You-Know-Where have gotten a little restless (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/3419281/posts) . . . .
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: ArneFufkin on April 10, 2016, 05:16:55 am
The usual natives You-Know-Where have gotten a little restless (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/3419281/posts) . . . .

They have no idea who and what the "Establishment" they hate actually is.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: Chosen Daughter on April 10, 2016, 05:31:41 am
 :patriot: Go Cruz!!  :patriot:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: EasyAce on April 10, 2016, 06:03:26 am
They have no idea . . . .

Should have stopped right there, Arne---you'd already hit the nail on the head!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: Frank Cannon on April 10, 2016, 07:16:02 am
:patriot: Go Cruz!!  :patriot:

Thank God someone has an effective plan to  stop Trump.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: libertybele on April 10, 2016, 11:40:04 am
Thank God someone has an effective plan to  stop Trump.

...still trying to understand why Kasich is staying in.  Perhaps he thinks he's going to get 7 more states in order to qualify for convention?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on April 10, 2016, 12:25:28 pm
Well, good for Cruz.  He's learned not to put his future in the hands of actual voters.   
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: mountaineer on April 10, 2016, 02:02:10 pm

Donald J. Trump Verified account
‏@realDonaldTrump
I win a state in votes and then get non-representative delegates because they are offered all sorts of goodies by Cruz campaign. Bad system!

Popehat ‏@Popehat 4m4 minutes ago
Popehat Retweeted Donald J. Trump
I pass for more yards and make far more completions than Peyton Manning but he has a ring. Bad system! - Cam Newton.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: ArneFufkin on April 10, 2016, 06:09:18 pm
...still trying to understand why Kasich is staying in.  Perhaps he thinks he's going to get 7 more states in order to qualify for convention?

The polls showing him beating Hillary and Sanders in the General are keeping him going.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: ArneFufkin on April 10, 2016, 06:11:03 pm
Well, good for Cruz.  He's learned not to put his future in the hands of actual voters.

It was Trump's choice to stage a hostile takeover of the GOP - from within the GOP.   If he and his "great people" don't know the rules they shouldn't have entered the game.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: musiclady on April 10, 2016, 06:42:53 pm
Donald J. Trump Verified account
‏@realDonaldTrump
I win a state in votes and then get non-representative delegates because they are offered all sorts of goodies by Cruz campaign. Bad system!

Popehat ‏@Popehat 4m4 minutes ago
Popehat Retweeted Donald J. Trump
I pass for more yards and make far more completions than Peyton Manning but he has a ring. Bad system! - Cam Newton.

Perfect!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: R4 TrumPence on April 10, 2016, 06:55:00 pm
If you haven't read it ........

We ask everyone read this carefully...
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,201773.0.html
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: Wingnut on April 10, 2016, 06:58:20 pm
Donald J. Trump Verified account
‏@realDonaldTrump
I win a state in votes and then get non-representative delegates because they are offered all sorts of goodies by Cruz campaign. Bad system!

Popehat ‏@Popehat 4m4 minutes ago
Popehat Retweeted Donald J. Trump
I pass for more yards and make far more completions than Peyton Manning but he has a ring. Bad system! - Cam Newton.
TRump = Newton.  The rump does know his asses.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: ABX on April 10, 2016, 07:09:00 pm
Donald J. Trump Verified account
‏@realDonaldTrump
I win a state in votes and then get non-representative delegates because they are offered all sorts of goodies by Cruz campaign. Bad system!

Popehat ‏@Popehat 4m4 minutes ago
Popehat Retweeted Donald J. Trump
I pass for more yards and make far more completions than Peyton Manning but he has a ring. Bad system! - Cam Newton.

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Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: ABX on April 11, 2016, 04:14:46 am
In response to the odd story Drudge is pushing that is a total fabrication--

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Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on April 11, 2016, 12:12:12 pm
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Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: libertybele on April 11, 2016, 12:29:26 pm
 8888crybaby   8888crybaby   8888crybaby  I have given some of the Trump supporters way too much credit.  I should have known better.  Obviously, Trump doesn't fully understand the electoral process.  That shouldn't really come as any surprise as he obviously doesn't understand the function of the three branches of government or the Constitution either.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: ABX on April 11, 2016, 12:33:26 pm
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Actually it was a multi round caucus (at the convention). I'm not sure who is starting these stories that even Drudge is pushing, but as I posted above from an actual delegate, it is a complex caucus process. The only difference is it is at the convention. The voters of Colorado chose to use this process, not the party.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on April 11, 2016, 03:31:45 pm
Question to the moderators:

If certain members are crying like little girls, are we not supposed to call them out for it? How do I address their unrepentant whining without you feeling that I am attacking them personally?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: Bigun on April 11, 2016, 03:34:18 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfuLAFMUEAARbdV.jpg)

The fact that Trumpo doesn't know or care about the rules is not the fault of anyone but Trump!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: Bigun on April 11, 2016, 03:40:33 pm
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Being overly fair to Trump IMHO!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: bolobaby on April 11, 2016, 03:41:36 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfuLAFMUEAARbdV.jpg)

In Trump's case, "Competence not needed, only whining."

The rules for Colorado were known since August 25, 2015. Trump's amazing lack of competence allowed Cruz to win with the rules in play.

Does this give you great confidence in Trump's ability to stay on top of things as President???
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: Sanguine on April 11, 2016, 03:50:35 pm
If you haven't read it ........

We ask everyone read this carefully...
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,201773.0.html

Just for the record, was there anything in this thread that motivated that reminder?  I think we all want to stay within the lines.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on April 11, 2016, 03:52:21 pm
Just for the record, was there anything in this thread that motivated that reminder?  I think we all want to stay within the lines.

I was wondering that too. If I feel that someone is acting like a whining crybaby, do I have the right to say that I feel they are acting like a whining crybaby?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: MACVSOG68 on April 11, 2016, 03:55:43 pm
Question to the moderators:

If certain members are crying like little girls, are we not supposed to call them out for it? How do I address their unrepentant whining without you feeling that I am attacking them personally?

If it were me, I'd explain it to them just as Abraxis has been doing.  Too easy to fall for Drudge headlines.  A little research and I think those who are not happy will move on to another thread.  New York is coming up soon enough.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: ABX on April 11, 2016, 03:58:40 pm
Or just ignore them. Sometimes the response says everything you need to know, not in the way they may want.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: R4 TrumPence on April 11, 2016, 04:21:55 pm
Question to the moderators:

If certain members are crying like little girls, are we not supposed to call them out for it? How do I address their unrepentant whining without you feeling that I am attacking them personally?

No! And No personal attacks period!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: Bigun on April 11, 2016, 04:29:41 pm
No! And No personal attacks period!

I have and will continue to call them out without the need for personal attacks! If that is unacceptable you may as well get rid of me right now!

Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: musiclady on April 11, 2016, 05:27:16 pm
Or just ignore them. Sometimes the response says everything you need to know, not in the way they may want.

That's the secret.  Blaming Cruz for the fact that Trump is clueless reveals all you need to know about the poster.

btw, I don't know who's been out of line on this thread.  I don't believe civility demands never responding to what other posters are doing.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: mountaineer on April 11, 2016, 06:15:30 pm
On the other hand, if someone is acting petulant and foolish,  no need to call them out on it. Let them dig their own hole.  ^-^
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: musiclady on April 11, 2016, 06:17:37 pm
On the other hand, if someone is acting petulant and foolish,  no need to call them out on it. Let them dig their own hole.  ^-^

Indeed!  (A mistake I sometimes make). 

A few of them dig quite well.   ^-^
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: ABX on April 11, 2016, 11:40:16 pm
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Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: Sanguine on April 12, 2016, 12:07:14 am
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Love it!   
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: libertybele on April 12, 2016, 12:25:39 am
It was Trump's choice to stage a hostile takeover of the GOP - from within the GOP.   If he and his "great people" don't know the rules they shouldn't have entered the game.

Exactly.  Trump is clueless.  :silly:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: Fishrrman on April 12, 2016, 01:21:02 am
I ain't that smart, but I guess it's easy to win when the people don't get a vote!  ;)

Wouldn't it be great if we could run the whole country like this?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: libertybele on April 12, 2016, 01:27:36 am
I ain't that smart, but I guess it's easy to win when the people don't get a vote!  ;)

Wouldn't it be great if we could run the whole country like this?

It's ok.  Obviously Trump ain't that smart either.   :silly:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: Bill Cipher on April 12, 2016, 01:29:41 am
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:bigsilly:


good one!
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: sinkspur on April 12, 2016, 01:30:27 am
I ain't that smart, but I guess it's easy to win when the people don't get a vote!  ;)

Wouldn't it be great if we could run the whole country like this?

The people got a vote in precinct caucuses on March 1.  You've heard of caucuses, right?  Iowa was a caucus, Nevada is a caucus.  Voters show up, get in groups and vote for people to represent them.

Then the delegates vote.  It's all above board and perfectly legal. 

It makes as much sense as Trump winning 38% of the vote in Florida and taking ALL the delegates.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: ABX on April 12, 2016, 01:38:16 am
I ain't that smart, but I guess it's easy to win when the people don't get a vote!  ;)

Wouldn't it be great if we could run the whole country like this?

What happened in Colorado on March 1st?

When you find the answer to that, you'll realize how much  you've been lied to in the past two days about what happened in Colorado.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: Bill Cipher on April 12, 2016, 01:38:33 am
The people got a vote in precinct caucuses on March 1.  You've heard of caucuses, right?  Iowa was a caucus, Nevada is a caucus.  Voters show up, get in groups and vote for people to represent them.

Then the delegates vote.  It's all above board and perfectly legal. 

It makes as much sense as Trump winning 38% of the vote in Florida and taking ALL the delegates.

Winner take all makes less sense.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: MACVSOG68 on April 12, 2016, 02:07:10 am
Winner take all makes less sense.

Agreed.  Maybe Trump should ask his campaign manager what the hell happened before screaming foul?  I have a close friend here whose son is amateur US MMA champion for his weight class.  One time he agreed to a fight under Muay Tai rules, but didn't realize what they were.  He lost because he failed to look at the differences in rules and scoring from what he was used to.  Trump's campaign manager appears to have made the same mistake.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: Bill Cipher on April 12, 2016, 02:11:14 am
Agreed.  Maybe Trump should ask his campaign manager what the hell happened before screaming foul?  I have a close friend here whose son is amateur US MMA champion for his weight class.  One time he agreed to a fight under Muay Tai rules, but didn't realize what they were.  He lost because he failed to look at the differences in rules and scoring from what he was used to.  Trump's campaign manager appears to have made the same mistake.


goopo
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on April 12, 2016, 02:12:14 am
Agreed.  Maybe Trump should ask his campaign manager what the hell happened before screaming foul?  I have a close friend here whose son is amateur US MMA champion for his weight class.  One time he agreed to a fight under Muay Tai rules, but didn't realize what they were.  He lost because he failed to look at the differences in rules and scoring from what he was used to.  Trump's campaign manager appears to have made the same mistake.

Trump shoots his mouth off first and thinks later.

Or never at all come to think of it.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: EasyAce on April 12, 2016, 02:16:10 am
Agreed.  Maybe Trump should ask his campaign manager what the hell happened before screaming foul?

Maybe said campaign manager was too busy preparing his defense against Michelle Fields. ;)
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: Sanguine on April 12, 2016, 02:17:02 am
Agreed.  Maybe Trump should ask his campaign manager what the hell happened before screaming foul?  I have a close friend here whose son is amateur US MMA champion for his weight class.  One time he agreed to a fight under Muay Tai rules, but didn't realize what they were.  He lost because he failed to look at the differences in rules and scoring from what he was used to.  Trump's campaign manager appears to have made the same mistake.

It looks like DT isn't interested in the truth.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: MACVSOG68 on April 12, 2016, 02:18:44 am
Maybe said campaign manager was too busy preparing his defense against Michelle Fields. ;)

Ouch!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: Bill Cipher on April 12, 2016, 02:21:23 am
Maybe said campaign manager was too busy preparing his defense against Michelle Fields. ;)


:bigsilly:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: HonestJohn on April 12, 2016, 02:26:47 am
8888crybaby   8888crybaby   8888crybaby  I have given some of the Trump supporters way too much credit.  I should have known better.  Obviously, Trump doesn't fully understand the electoral process.  That shouldn't really come as any surprise as he obviously doesn't understand the function of the three branches of government or the Constitution either.

Trump's version of the U.S. Constitution:

You are going to be mine, all mine, like my dog or my horse or my falcon.

So he commands it to be written.  I doubt it will be done.

Title: Re: Ted Cruz Sweeps Colorado
Post by: Bill Cipher on April 12, 2016, 03:05:02 am
Trump's version of the U.S. Constitution:

You are going to be mine, all mine, like my dog or my horse or my falcon.

So he commands it to be written.  I doubt it will be done.



To paraphrase (and mangle a bit) from the Lord of the Rings:

One Trump to rule them all,
One Trump to find them,
One Trump to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.