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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: Longiron on October 22, 2015, 02:46:11 pm
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Knew it was to good to be true, Conservatives hanging tough. Both groups have been infiltrated with RINO plants and will support Paul Ryan ( Boehner Jr) for Speaker. He will be as bad if not worst than the Boner if that is possible. Call you local RINO congressman and raise hell or settle for the status quo of giving BARRY everything he wants for the next 15 months??? :thud:
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The sausage must be made. Sausage making is not pretty.
Those without the stomach for watching sausage making, had best not watch.
Only the naïve will expect to get real sausage leaving out the nasty parts.
We just done saw some sausage gettin made.
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Knew it was to good to be true, Conservatives hanging tough. Both groups have been infiltrated with RINO plants and will support Paul Ryan ( Boehner Jr) for Speaker. He will be as bad if not worst than the Boner if that is possible. Call you local RINO congressman and raise hell or settle for the status quo of giving BARRY everything he wants for the next 15 months??? :thud:
Well, the time to raise hell was at the voting both. RINO's should have been ousted. Too many Republicans vote for party rather than candidate ... just because the candidates claim to be Republicans. RINO's have NOT been held accountable for quite some time; they could care less what we think. The only way to make a difference would have been to fire them. Way way too late for anything to be done. We can hope like heck we make it to the next election and then by some miracle we wind up with someone other than Bush to vote for.
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Knew it was to good to be true, Conservatives hanging tough. Both groups have been infiltrated with RINO plants and will support Paul Ryan ( Boehner Jr) for Speaker. He will be as bad if not worst than the Boner if that is possible. Call you local RINO congressman and raise hell or settle for the status quo of giving BARRY everything he wants for the next 15 months??? :thud:
They could see that they would be blamed for everything that happens next.
Must have decided (or gotten some comfort) that Ryan will be better than Boehner and considered it a 'win' for now.
Might make good primary material next year if Ryan poops out like Boehner...
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They could see that they would be blamed for everything that happens next.
Must have decided (or gotten some comfort) that Ryan will be better than Boehner and considered it a 'win' for now.
Might make good primary material next year if Ryan poops out like Boehner...
I'm willing to give Ryan a chance. One strong quality he possesses is his knowledge of budget issues, his "wonkiness."
With three issues of vital importance to get a handle on, 1) radical Islam, 2) illegal aliens, and 3) national debt, being on top of one out of three ain't bad.
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I'm not too sure he's that bad on radical Islam either.
Vis http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,183698.0.html - he did support war in Afghanistan and Iraq and opposed early withdrawal.
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More reason to lend support. Thanks, EC.
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He sort of fell off my radar after the last election, so I'm playing catch up here! :laugh:
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Knew it was to good to be true, Conservatives hanging tough. Both groups have been infiltrated with RINO plants and will support Paul Ryan ( Boehner Jr) for Speaker. He will be as bad if not worst than the Boner if that is possible. Call you local RINO congressman and raise hell or settle for the status quo of giving BARRY everything he wants for the next 15 months??? :thud:
Gotta have a replacement.
Or do you plan on giving TRUMP every office?
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Gotta have a replacement.
Or do you plan on giving TRUMP every office?
(rim shot) You are on a roll tonight.
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The Liberty and Freedom Caucus has been infiltrated by a super majority of RINOs. If conservatives could purge them down to just 5 or 6 solid conservatives that would be great.
http://www.ocregister.com/orangepunch/demint-489447-republicans-marco.html
"I'd rather have 30 Marco Rubios than 60 Arlen Specters" - Jim DeMint
Oops...that was back in 2013
You know the difference between a real conservative and a filthy traitorous RINO? One re-election.
Lets change it to "I'd rather have 6 David Brats than 250 Paul Ryans"
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Am I excited about a Ryan speakership? Not really. Is he smart and competent enough to do it? Yes to the first, probably to the second. Will he be better than Boner? Most likely. Will he deliver for conservatives? Probably 50/50. Will he stand up to Obama? That is the 10 trillion dollar question.
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Am I excited about a Ryan speakership? Not really. Is he smart and competent enough to do it? Yes to the first, probably to the second. Will he be better than Boner? Most likely. Will he deliver for conservatives? Probably 50/50. Will he stand up to Obama? That is the 10 trillion dollar question.
The donar class runs the RINOGOP and they got their boy in. This was a shift of money from Boehner to another RINO. If you are a PUBBIE rank and file and not in the donar class you are nothing and they could care less about your opinion or demands, except at election time and once that is over you are back to being nothing. The Freedom gig was just that sorry to say. Showtime that their are conservatives in the HOUSE with some ethics, principals and interigty until it counts and the RINO comes out. If the Freedom and Liberty thing is real they will make everyone that votes for Ryan to resign from the organization. NOT going to happen and they will have at least 1000+ excuses why they need to supprort RINO RYAN. same ole same ole **nononono* **nononono*
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The donar class runs the RINOGOP and they got their boy in. This was a shift of money from Boehner to another RINO. If you are a PUBBIE rank and file and not in the donar class you are nothing and they could care less about your opinion or demands, except at election time and once that is over you are back to being nothing. The Freedom gig was just that sorry to say. Showtime that their are conservatives in the HOUSE with some ethics, principals and interigty until it counts and the RINO comes out. If the Freedom and Liberty thing is real they will make everyone that votes for Ryan to resign from the organization. NOT going to happen and they will have at least 1000+ excuses why they need to supprort RINO RYAN. same ole same ole **nononono* **nononono*
I'm gonna hold my fire on this. I had high hopes for Ryan as Romney's pick for VP so I'll wait to see how he performs as speaker before making a judgment.
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I'm gonna hold my fire on this. I had high hopes for Ryan as Romney's pick for VP so I'll wait to see how he performs as speaker before making a judgment.
You are right, have to give the guy a chance. However just PO that the Freedom and Liberty thing is just a scam, AGAIN! :patriot:
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I'm gonna hold my fire on this. I had high hopes for Ryan as Romney's pick for VP so I'll wait to see how he performs as speaker before making a judgment.
Couldn't have said it any better myself. I'm with you.
Romney/RYAN was good enough 4 years ago and we're supposed to be upset 'they' want him as Speaker of the House?
Ooookaaay! :shrug:
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Couldn't have said it any better myself. I'm with you.
Romney/RYAN was good enough 4 years ago and we're supposed to be upset 'they' want him as Speaker of the House?
Ooookaaay! :shrug:
A lot has happened in 4 years. And politically speaking name one good thing for CONSERVATIVES and we are not talking about the RINOGOP ! Best news is BARRY is out in 15 months!
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A lot has happened in 4 years. And politically speaking name one good thing for CONSERVATIVES and we are not talking about the RINOGOP ! Best news is BARRY is out in 15 months!
The only thing "Conservative" Reps and Senators need to do is to stay true to themselves and vote accordingly. Their numbers have increased since 2010.
Hopefully, they will continue to do so. The voters should reward them for it. If you look at the number of Republican gains among the States since 2010 you can see they've grown considerably. Eventually we'll get there.
It's called a "tipping point". :beer:
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The end of Barry's reign of terror will be a blessed day. Indeed, full of hope and change. :silly:
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Couldn't have said it any better myself. I'm with you.
Romney/RYAN was good enough 4 years ago and we're supposed to be upset 'they' want him as Speaker of the House?
Ooookaaay! :shrug:
I thought that conservatives staying home in protest was the reason Romney/Ryan lost?
Now they were 'good enough'? What up w/ dat?
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I thought that conservatives staying home in protest was the reason Romney/Ryan lost?
Now they were 'good enough'? What up w/ dat?
4-5 million voters don't stay home and boycott an election over the vice-president on the ticket. :whistle:
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4-5 million voters don't stay home and boycott an election over the vice-president on the ticket.
So why were they 'good enough' then (even though so many stayed home) but 'upsetting' now?
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You are right, have to give the guy a chance. However just PO that the Freedom and Liberty thing is just a scam, AGAIN! :patriot:
Politicians are a lot like kids or puppies. They need scolding when they pee on the carpet or run with the crowd, but they also need praise when they don't do something boneheaded!
Now, we're quick enough to hit the phones or email when they do the stupid stuff, that's not the problem. How about writing to the reps who stick by their convictions and their word to thank them for it? Bet they don't get many of those sorts of letters - and those are the ones they are more likely to actually read and take notice of!
:tongue2:
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Politicians are a lot like kids or puppies. They need scolding when they pee on the carpet or run with the crowd, but they also need praise when they don't do something boneheaded!
Now, we're quick enough to hit the phones or email when they do the stupid stuff, that's not the problem. How about writing to the reps who stick by their convictions and their word to thank them for it? Bet they don't get many of those sorts of letters - and those are the ones they are more likely to actually read and take notice of!
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When they dp stick by there principals they do hear kudos from the people. Case in point was McCarthy not getting the Speaker job and the 40 conservatives were responsible, supposely. With RYAN getting the nod from conservatives one has to think the whole thing was a setup and showtime for the folks back home. Amnesty will decide the POTUS race in 2016 and they do not get much worst for giving amanesty than PAUL RYAN and the supposely conservative gave their approval ? :thud:
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Paul Ryan Demands Repeal of Founding Father Thomas Jefferson’s Rule......that right there tells me all I need to know about Ryan.
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I'm gonna hold my fire on this. I had high hopes for Ryan as Romney's pick for VP so I'll wait to see how he performs as speaker before making a judgment.
:thumbsup2:
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I'm willing to give Ryan a chance. One strong quality he possesses is his knowledge of budget issues, his "wonkiness."
With three issues of vital importance to get a handle on, 1) radical Islam, 2) illegal aliens, and 3) national debt, being on top of one out of three ain't bad.
All you need to know ...
http://www.conservativereview.com/search?state=&zip=&keywords=RYAN
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Paul Ryan is going to be the House Speaker. No matter what Laura Ingraham or Mark Levin or Rush jump up and down about.
The Freedom Caucus support Ryan cuz they know that, if they don't, they own the chaos that ensues.
And if there's one thing I've observed about the hair-on-fire conservatives, is that they don't accept responsibility for ANYTHING.
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Paul Ryan is going to be the House Speaker. No matter what Laura Ingraham or Mark Levin or Rush jump up and down about.
The Freedom Caucus support Ryan cuz they know that, if they don't, they own the chaos that ensues.
And if there's one thing I've observed about the hair-on-fire conservatives, is that they don't accept responsibility for ANYTHING.
You can add Glenn Beck to the list.
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I see that there are so called conservatives on this board that are willing to fall in line.
The next thing you need to know ...
Harry Reid: Why I Support Paul Ryan as Speaker
Google it!
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The sausage must be made. Sausage making is not pretty.
Those without the stomach for watching sausage making, had best not watch.
Only the naïve will expect to get real sausage leaving out the nasty parts.
We just done saw some sausage gettin made.
It's nice to see the crybaby caucus beginning to evince some desire to start growing up.
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I see that there are so called conservatives on this board that are willing to fall in line.
The next thing you need to know ...
Harry Reid: Why I Support Paul Ryan as Speaker
Google it!
So what? Who's your choice for House Speaker? Gomer Gohmert?
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I see that there are so called conservatives on this board that are willing to fall in line.
The next thing you need to know ...
Harry Reid: Why I Support Paul Ryan as Speaker
Google it!
So I take it that you wanted someone from the Shutdown caucus as speaker??
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So I take it that you wanted someone from the Shutdown caucus as speaker??
That's a bad thing?
Go along to get along has worked out so well for this country.
Boehner 2.0 is a good thing?
Gotcha
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That's a bad thing?
Go along to get along has worked out so well for this country.
Boehner 2.0 is a good thing?
Gotcha
Since when is Compromise a bad thing? Reagan had to Compromise.. Besides a shutdown is something Obama wants and the last shutdown failed.
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That's a bad thing?
Go along to get along has worked out so well for this country.
Boehner 2.0 is a good thing?
Gotcha
Who is your nominee for Speaker who could garner 218 votes?
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I see that there are so called conservatives on this board that are willing to fall in line.
The next thing you need to know ...
Harry Reid: Why I Support Paul Ryan as Speaker
Google it!
Don't you think Reid said that just to get conservatives bent out of shape?
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Don't you think Reid said that just to get conservatives bent out of shape?
I think that is why he said it..
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Don't you think Reid said that just to get conservatives bent out of shape?
Of course. He's laughing over the Pavlovian response his remarks elicited.
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Who is your nominee for Speaker who could garner 218 votes?
What difference does it make who replaces the Speaker.
Except for the whole replacement part the plan to oust Boehner worked perfectly.
Sure it took 3 years and in the end Boehner decided to quit rather than put up with their tantrums, but there is no reason that real conservatives can't just keep ousting Speakers until the rats win back the House.
Except for the fact that Ryan is even more pro-amnesty than Boehner, this is a terrific victory.
You make it sound like they should be ashamed of not understanding the consequences of their actions.
Haters gonna hate.
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So what? Who's your choice for House Speaker? Gomer Gohmert?
I would love to see Louie Gohmert as Speaker. He would do a good job.
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Since when is Compromise a bad thing? Reagan had to Compromise.. Besides a shutdown is something Obama wants and the last shutdown failed.
Compromise implies that both sides give. Since when do dems give?
And, secondly, there are some things one should not compromise on.
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Compromise implies that both sides give. Since when do dems give?
Sequester and permanent Bush Tax cuts.
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I would love to see Louie Gohmert as Speaker. He would do a good job.
I'd love to see Reagan descend from Heaven and run for a 3rd term.
Gohmert would only get one vote for Speaker. His own.
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I'd love to see Reagan descend from Heaven and run for a 3rd term.
Gohmert would only get one vote for Speaker. His own.
There must be something about our political system of which I am unaware. If Reagan were to descend from heaven and run for a third term how would that affect Gohmert's chances for the Speakership? The former is an office elected by the body of the people; the latter is an internal leadership position solely voted on by the members of the House.
Are you saying that if Reagan were to return he would run for and win both offices?
Or something?
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It was an illustrtion of the relative likelihood of Gohmert becoming Speaker.
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There must be something about our political system of which I am unaware. If Reagan were to descend from heaven and run for a third term how would that affect Gohmert's chances for the Speakership? The former is an office elected by the body of the people; the latter is an internal leadership position solely voted on by the members of the House.
Are you saying that if Reagan were to return he would run for and win both offices?
Or something?
Speaker Gohmert, and Angel Reagan are both fantasies.
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Are you saying that if Reagan were to return he would run for and win both offices?
Some people just love to conjure up fantasies so that they have something to say...
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Speaker Gohmert, and Angel Reagan are both fantasies.
Ok, ty for the explanation, weird as it is. Kudos to EC for deciphering it. He must have a decoder ring.
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Compromise implies that both sides give. Since when do dems give?
And, secondly, there are some things one should not compromise on.
DEMS never give an inch because the know that the other side will.
There are a lot of things that should not be subject to compromise.