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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: SirLinksALot on November 17, 2017, 05:11:58 pm
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SOURCE: BREITBART
URL: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/16/exclusive-ultimatum-roy-moore-gives-gloria-allred-48-hours-to-release-yearbook-demands-evidence-be-preserved/ (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/16/exclusive-ultimatum-roy-moore-gives-gloria-allred-48-hours-to-release-yearbook-demands-evidence-be-preserved/)
by Aaron Klein
Birmingham, ALABAMA — An attorney for senatorial candidate Roy Moore has given lawyer and activist Gloria Allred forty-eight hours to release to the custody of an independent examiner the original copy of a yearbook that contains the only piece of physical evidence to be presented in the cases of numerous women who have gone public with stories alleging inappropriate conduct between Moore and teenage girls.
The letter to Allred was dated yesterday and obtained by Breitbart News. Attorney Trenton R. Garmon, who represents Moore and his wife, Kayla, further requested that Allred take steps to ensure the “immediate and professional preservation of the yearbook.”
The letter demanded that Allred and her client, accuser Beverly Young Nelson, issue a “full and fair public retraction” of all “false statements” concerning Moore.
The letter stated:
Any “testing” performed on the evidence prior to its release to my clients and/or this firm which said “testing” results in alteration and/or destruction of the evidence, and/or any part of the evidence, will be considered spoliation.
…As part of the request for preservation of evidence the Moores request: (i) immediate and professional preservation of the yearbook and all other evidence as described above, (ii) reasonable but immediate efforts to create and maintain evidence regarding a chain of custody pertaining to all potential evidence, and (iii) that the yearbook be released to the custody of our expert forensic document examiner within two (2) business days of your receipt of this correspondence.
The yearbook inscription is a critical part of the story of Nelson, 55, who has claimed that Moore sexually assaulted her in a car in December 1977 or early January 1978 when she was a 16-year-old high school student. Nelson said the alleged assault took place outside a restaurant in Gadsden, Ala., where she says that she worked as a waitress.
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Excellent!
Nail their azzes!
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I wonder if she even has been admitted to the Bar to practice law in the State of Alabama?
https://www.alabar.org/for-the-public/find-a-member/
No results show up.
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Very good tactical move. Use that BS physical evidence against them and call their ante. Now it's on them to put up or shut up.
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I wonder if she even has been admitted to the Bar to practice law in the State of Alabama?
https://www.alabar.org/for-the-public/find-a-member/
No results show up.
She's lucky to still have a license to practice in California!
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What happens legally if Allred doesn't comply with another attorney's demand? If this is crucial for some legal case, wouldn't a court order to preserve "critical" evidence be more effective than a simple letter from one attorney to another?
I am not an attorney nor do I play one on TV.
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Roy Moore Gives Gloria Allred 48 Hours to Release Yearbook
...or he'll do what?
Cruse a different middle school?
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Roy Moore Gives Gloria Allred 48 Hours to Release Yearbook
...or he'll do what?
Cruse a different middle school?
...if she can't produce the evidence that she's claiming that she has ... then it's all b.s. If she does produce the evidence, then Moore/attorney can have it examined by handwriting experts for legitimacy. Either way ... Allred's reputation is questionable.
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Roy Moore Gives Gloria Allred 48 Hours to Release Yearbook
...or he'll do what?
Cruse a different middle school?
What an *sshole, wanting to face his accusers.
Why can't he just suck it up and get used to being called a sexual predator.
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Roy Moore Gives Gloria Allred 48 Hours to Release Yearbook
...or he'll do what?
It's called establishing a record! But I don't suppose you would know anything about that!
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Roy Moore Gives Gloria Allred 48 Hours to Release Yearbook
...or he'll do what?
Cruse a different middle school?
Did you copy and paste that from some smarmy Millennial SJW's tweet?
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Gloria Allred: ‘I Haven’t Asked’ Beverly Young Nelson If She Saw Roy Moore Sign Her Yearbook
Breitbart, Nov 16, 2017, Pam Key
Thursday on MSNBC’s “MTP Daily,” celebrity attorney Gloria Allred, who is representing Roy Moore accuser Beverly Young Nelson, said she had not asked her client if she saw Moore sign her yearbook.
Questions had been raised by the Moore campaign a day earlier at a press conference in Birmingham, AL about the authenticity of the signature, which Allred had held up as evidence to bolster Young’s claim against Moore.
Partial transcript as follows:
Read more: http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/11/16/gloria-allred-havent-asked-beverly-young-nelson-saw-roy-moore-sign-yearbook/
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Wouldn't it be nice if a side outcome from this mess is Ms. Allred ends up hiring legal counsel?
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Wouldn't it be nice if a side outcome from this mess is Ms. Allred ends up hiring legal counsel?
She has PLENTY of her own problems to deal with at present!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4769772/Gloria-Allred-two-bar-investigations.html
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Again the leftist Russian-American media can not find themselves to ask how she can represent an accuser in the State of Alabama against the alleged perpetrator, a citizen of the state of Alabama when she has not been admitted to practice law in Alabama. Since she has yet to file anything in a federal court, she can't claim to represent anyone in Alabama.
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Again the leftist Russian-American media can not find themselves to ask how she can represent an accuser in the State of Alabama against the alleged perpetrator, a citizen of the state of Alabama when she has not been admitted to practice law in Alabama. Since she has yet to file anything in a federal court, she can't claim to represent anyone in Alabama.
LOL! You aren't supposed to notice little things like that!
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I wonder if she even has been admitted to the Bar to practice law in the State of Alabama?
https://www.alabar.org/for-the-public/find-a-member/
No results show up.
You don't have to be a member of any bar to practice extortion.
That's what all this is really about. Bimbos looking to cash in and Gloria looking for her share.
I worked for lawyers for 35 years. Most were decent people. Gloria gives the profession a black eye.
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You don't have to be a member of any bar to practice extortion.
That's what all this is really about. Bimbos looking to cash in and Gloria looking for her share.
I worked for lawyers for 35 years. Most were decent people. Gloria gives the profession a black eye.
Maybe, or should I say, hopefully the Alabama Bar will send her a cease and desist order at the very least.
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Well the 48 hours have come and gone. So much for an "ultimatum". I guess I’ll chalk this up to Moore’s attorney attempting to match Allred’s grandstanding.
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Actually, the Roy Moore camp are already claiming victory on this saying "They didn't want to turn over the evidence, see, it's fake"...
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/361031-roy-moore-claims-accuser-wont-hand-over-yearbook-evidence-because-its-fake
Which, is a good spin on this or truth... I'm not going to say, the signature in the yearbook did not appear to be straightforward though.
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Actually, the Roy Moore camp are already claiming victory on this saying "They didn't want to turn over the evidence, see, it's fake"...
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/361031-roy-moore-claims-accuser-wont-hand-over-yearbook-evidence-because-its-fake
Which, is a good spin on this or truth... I'm not going to say, the signature in the yearbook did not appear to be straightforward though.
So, why the reluctance to turn over evidence? Surely if it is not fake, that would be damning support in favor of the woman's accusations.
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Actually, the Roy Moore camp are already claiming victory on this saying "They didn't want to turn over the evidence, see, it's fake"...
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/361031-roy-moore-claims-accuser-wont-hand-over-yearbook-evidence-because-its-fake
Which, is a good spin on this or truth... I'm not going to say, the signature in the yearbook did not appear to be straightforward though.
I'm not even a handwriting expert and can see it's a fraud. It's not even a good fraud.
She won't turn it over because she's using it as leverage to get some Senate ethics kangaroo circus so she can just spout one-sided accusations and get her railroad job.
In other words, it's all political hanky.
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I'm not even a handwriting expert and can see it's a fraud. It's not even a good fraud.
She won't turn it over because she's using it as leverage to get some Senate ethics kangaroo circus so she can just spout one-sided accusations and get her railroad job.
In other words, it's all political hanky.
And...as far as I can tell, she isn’t licensed to practice law in Alabama. So all she has is political grandstanding.
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I'm not even a handwriting expert and can see it's a fraud. It's not even a good fraud.
She won't turn it over because she's using it as leverage to get some Senate ethics kangaroo circus so she can just spout one-sided accusations and get her railroad job.
In other words, it's all political hanky.
Handwriting experts have already looked at it and are saying nothing is conclusive about the signature. For all we know, requesting the year book may not be that helpful.
There are a number of articles out there already that the handwriting has been analyzed, one was posted in this forum.
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Free Vulcan opined:
"She won't turn it over because she's using it as leverage to get some Senate ethics kangaroo circus so she can just spout one-sided accusations and get her railroad job.
In other words, it's all political hanky."
Prediction:
The yearbook isn't going to be turned over to anyone, least of all someone with the competence to evaluate it fully.
I doubt we're ever going to see it again.
It was produced to introduce suspicion and the taint of guilt, not to actually prove anything.
(I admit I could be wrong)
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Did you copy and paste that from some smarmy Millennial SJW's tweet?
I'm perfectly capable of being smarmy all by myself.
But the 48 hours have passed and the challenge was ignored, so I guess it is all over and settled now.
ROY MOORE IS A FILTHY STINKING CHILD MOLESTER is not a statement I should be declaring based off the victim's refusal to turn evidence over to her molester
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ROY MOORE IS A FILTHY STINKING CHILD MOLESTER is not a statement I should be declaring based off the victim's refusal to turn evidence over to her molester
Now all you need is PROOF.
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Now all you need is PROOF.
I have the proof I need. You have the proof you need. And yet one of us is damn wrong.
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Now all you need is PROOF.
Juvenile assclowns don't need no stinkin proof! All they need is a lynching party thrown by the media and they'll be right there every time!
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I have the proof I need. You have the proof you need. And yet one of us is damn wrong.
There is no proof at all.
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Juvenile assclowns don't need no stinkin proof! All they need is a lynching party thrown by the media and they'll be right there every time!
So it seems. I don't see how that works at all!
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So it seems. I don't see how that works at all!
I think it comes from being conditioned to just blindly accept anything by what passes for our educational system these days. Critical thinking was thrown under the bus in that arena long ago!
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Juvenile assclowns don't need no stinkin proof!
Look at that Bigun...we agree.
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Look at that Bigun...we agree.
Hallalujah! Repent before it's too late!
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Hallalujah! Repent before it's too late!
Now that I gotta see! :shrug:
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I'm perfectly capable of being smarmy all by myself.
But the 48 hours have passed and the challenge was ignored, so I guess it is all over and settled now.
ROY MOORE IS A FILTHY STINKING CHILD MOLESTER is not a statement I should be declaring based off the victim's refusal to turn evidence over to her molester
Sounds like you think the National Enquirer is a legit source of news.
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This sounds like smoke and mirrors.
Lawyers can't legally demand other lawyers do squat in any binding way.
What they can do is file a lawsuit claiming defamation with severe damages and go to court and persuade a judge to issue an order to investigate if the evidence is valid or not. Pretty easy to demonstrate damages if the evidence is fake.
So until Moore's lawyer actually files a lawsuit demanding a review of the "evidence" and claimed damages as a result of the lies this is just smoke and mirrors.
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Sounds like you think the National Enquirer is a legit source of news.
Oh look another feces flinging monkey. What a show :)
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Oh look another feces flinging monkey. What a show :)
And we got a true believer here. These women are crap. Their stories are crap. Their evidence is zero. The only 'evidence' they do have is a BS yearbook signature. All this is from a scumbag WaPo reporter and a scumbag grifting lawyer. The only credible witness can only attest to Moore getting her alcohol a year before the legal age of 19.
This is such a blatant example of a coordinated political hit job it's like someone was reading it out of a book. The is Herman Cain new and improved.
If you don't have the brain cells to connect the dots, that's not my problem. If you want to gulp this garbage down like some gossip hungry cheerleader, that's your problem.
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Handwriting experts have already looked at it and are saying nothing is conclusive about the signature. For all we know, requesting the year book may not be that helpful.
There are a number of articles out there already that the handwriting has been analyzed, one was posted in this forum.
There are preliminary appearances, but to be properly analyzed, people have to have access to the original document.
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There are preliminary appearances, but to be properly analyzed, people have to have access to the original document.
Roy Moore is the one requesting for the original, Gloria Allred and her client are the ones PREVENTING this from happening.
So, which party is looking like the one trying to suppress the truth?
Here's the other thing that might help -- why not propose that Roy Moore and Beverly Nelson BOTH go through a lie detector test?
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Roy Moore is the one requesting for the original, Gloria Allred and her client are the ones PREVENTING this from happening.
So, which party is looking like the one trying to suppress the truth?
Here's the other thing that might help -- why not propose that Roy Moore and Beverly Nelson BOTH go through a lie detector test?
Her Client??? This isn't a federal case, and Gloria Allredy a Sleezball isn't licensed to practice law in Alabama, so how can she be a Client?
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Her Client??? This isn't a federal case, and Gloria Allredy a Sleezball isn't licensed to practice law in Alabama, so how can she be a Client?
As long as this woman retained Gloria, or someone else did on her behalf, she is Gloria's client. Retention of an attorney and whether that attorney can practice in a particular jurisdiction are two separate matters.
I don't know what the terms of the retention would be. There might have been some upfront money paid and an agreement to represent signed. Or Allred is taking this case on a contingent fee -- that is, if there is any money settled on her client, Allred gets a cut. If there is no money by settlement, verdict or award, Allred doesn't get paid.
As to practicing in Alabama -- Allred could retain local counsel to file papers and appear in court. She could still be the main attorney and local counsel can be her lackeys.
Honestly, I still don't think Allred wants to go to court. Some attorneys call themselves litigators or trial attorneys, but they avoid trials at all costs, usually because they suck in a courtroom setting. I think she's looking for an out-of-court payday. She's an extortionist.
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As long as this woman retained Gloria, or someone else did on her behalf, she is Gloria's client. Retention of an attorney and whether that attorney can practice in a particular jurisdiction are two separate matters.
I don't know what the terms of the retention would be. There might have been some upfront money paid and an agreement to represent signed. Or Allred is taking this case on a contingent fee -- that is, if there is any money settled on her client, Allred gets a cut. If there is no money by settlement, verdict or award, Allred doesn't get paid.
As to practicing in Alabama -- Allred could retain local counsel to file papers and appear in court. She could still be the main attorney and local counsel can be her lackeys.
Honestly, I still don't think Allred wants to go to court. Some attorneys call themselves litigators or trial attorneys, but they avoid trials at all costs, usually because they suck in a courtroom setting. I think she's looking for an out-of-court payday. She's an extortionist.
Extortionist says it all and explains the unfounded allegations and lack of evidence.
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As long as this woman retained Gloria, or someone else did on her behalf, she is Gloria's client. Retention of an attorney and whether that attorney can practice in a particular jurisdiction are two separate matters.
I don't know what the terms of the retention would be. There might have been some upfront money paid and an agreement to represent signed. Or Allred is taking this case on a contingent fee -- that is, if there is any money settled on her client, Allred gets a cut. If there is no money by settlement, verdict or award, Allred doesn't get paid.
As to practicing in Alabama -- Allred could retain local counsel to file papers and appear in court. She could still be the main attorney and local counsel can be her lackeys.
Honestly, I still don't think Allred wants to go to court. Some attorneys call themselves litigators or trial attorneys, but they avoid trials at all costs, usually because they suck in a courtroom setting. I think she's looking for an out-of-court payday. She's an extortionist.
At this point by declaring her a 'client', any conversations they have had relating to the veracity of testimony or the writing in the yearbook are now priviliged under the penumbra of 'attorney client relations'. This keeps Allred from being subpoenaed to testify in the event the information is false, and protects her from liability if that comes out. This is why the gambit includes a Congressional hearing (not a judicial body of first jurisdiction). Take this to court in Alabama and Allred is on the back bench as an advisor.
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Allred is a hired PR gun. She first tries people in the court of public opinion. She doesn't need a law license in Alabama to do that. She has shakedown down to an art form. A courtroom comes later if there's money to be made.
If Moore is innocent he'd sue now forcing this into a courtroom ASAP raising the stakes for Allred and her client.
Why hasn't Moore done that?
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And we got a true believer here. These women are crap.
Ain't they all? You should join my "He Man Women Hater Club."
Their stories are crap.
I find them compelling and nauseatingly and eerily familiar...but then I know several woman who have been raped...I guess I'm just a crap magnet...or the world is crappy.
Their evidence is zero.
There are corroborating witnesses and many accusers...but not one single person willing to defend Moore free of charge. I don't have that many friends but I would like to think if someone said Once-Ler was banned from the Mall because he was 30 and soliciting minors as a DA...somebody would step forward and tell them I was too drunk to drive to the Mall and I've always been into GILFs.
I can't wait to see the climax of this soap opera.
The only 'evidence' they do have is a BS yearbook signature. All this is from a scumbag WaPo reporter and a scumbag grifting lawyer. The only credible witness can only attest to Moore getting her alcohol a year before the legal age of 19.
This is such a blatant example of a coordinated political hit job it's like someone was reading it out of a book. The is Herman Cain new and improved.
If you don't have the brain cells to connect the dots, that's not my problem. If you want to gulp this garbage down like some gossip hungry cheerleader, that's your problem.
I have connected the dots many times...in fact frequently, twice yesterday. Problem, or Constitutional Right?
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but not one single person willing to defend Moore free of charge.
What about these women? Were they paid?
https://www.roymoore.org/Press-Releases/124/Alabama-Women-Affirm-the-Character-of-Judge-Roy-Moore (https://www.roymoore.org/Press-Releases/124/Alabama-Women-Affirm-the-Character-of-Judge-Roy-Moore)
What about Beverly Nelson's STEPSON, Darrell Nelson who accuses his mother of being a serial manipulator and is
OPENLY supportive of Roy Moore, was he paid too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTGOrilz80U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTGOrilz80U)
What about the Mall Manager who does not corroborate the accusation that Moore was banned at the Garsden Mall,
he says he's voting for Moore. Was he paid too?
http://www.dailywire.com/news/23754/watch-former-alabama-mall-manager-drops-bombshell-ryan-saavedra#exit-modal (http://www.dailywire.com/news/23754/watch-former-alabama-mall-manager-drops-bombshell-ryan-saavedra#exit-modal)
What about the GOP party of Alabama, who continue to support Roy Moore. How does Moore get the money to pay them?
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/17/politics/kayla-moore-alabama-gop/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/17/politics/kayla-moore-alabama-gop/index.html)
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What about these women? Were they paid?
https://www.roymoore.org/Press-Releases/124/Alabama-Women-Affirm-the-Character-of-Judge-Roy-Moore (https://www.roymoore.org/Press-Releases/124/Alabama-Women-Affirm-the-Character-of-Judge-Roy-Moore)
What about Beverly Nelson's STEPSON, Darrell Nelson who accuses his mother of being a serial manipulator and is
OPENLY supportive of Roy Moore, was he paid too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTGOrilz80U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTGOrilz80U)
What about the Mall Manager who does not corroborate the accusation that Moore was banned at the Garsden Mall,
he says he's voting for Moore. Was he paid too?
http://www.dailywire.com/news/23754/watch-former-alabama-mall-manager-drops-bombshell-ryan-saavedra#exit-modal (http://www.dailywire.com/news/23754/watch-former-alabama-mall-manager-drops-bombshell-ryan-saavedra#exit-modal)
What about the GOP party of Alabama, who continue to support Roy Moore. How does Moore get the money to pay them?
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/17/politics/kayla-moore-alabama-gop/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/17/politics/kayla-moore-alabama-gop/index.html)
Who were you quoting in your post? I would like to inform that person that I have consistently defended Roy Moore and no one has paid me a penny!
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So, has the 48 hours passed? Did Allred submit the yearbook for examination?
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It was an empty threat
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Ain't they all? You should join my "He Man Women Hater Club."
I am so proud of you. You've graduated to Jr. High level comebacks.
I find them compelling and nauseatingly and eerily familiar...but then I know several woman who have been raped...I guess I'm just a crap magnet...or the world is crappy.
Yep familair and opportunistic women know exactly how to spin their story - like they're being coached, or paid.
There are corroborating witnesses and many accusers...but not one single person willing to defend Moore free of charge. I don't have that many friends but I would like to think if someone said Once-Ler was banned from the Mall because he was 30 and soliciting minors as a DA...somebody would step forward and tell them I was too drunk to drive to the Mall and I've always been into GILFs.
I can't wait to see the climax of this soap opera.
Which corroboerating witnesses? With the women? Who are they? You mean the mall? That was all second hand hearsay. Or are you trying to be dishonestly and ambiguously imply that the mall testimony somehow backs up the women as 'corroborating'.
I have connected the dots many times...in fact frequently, twice yesterday. Problem, or Constitutional Right?
More like tinfoil conspiracy theory based on touchy feely intuitive perception, based of some holier-than-thou belief in your moral superiority that you can just discern these things. You just FEEEEEL he's guilty right?