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Did you copy and paste that from some smarmy Millennial SJW's tweet?
I'm perfectly capable of being smarmy all by myself.

But the 48 hours have passed and the challenge was ignored, so I guess it is all over and settled now.

ROY MOORE IS A FILTHY STINKING CHILD MOLESTER is not a statement I should be declaring based off the victim's refusal to turn evidence over to her molester
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ROY MOORE IS A FILTHY STINKING CHILD MOLESTER is not a statement I should be declaring based off the victim's refusal to turn evidence over to her molester

Now all you need is PROOF.

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Now all you need is PROOF.
I have the proof I need.  You have the proof you need.  And yet one of us is damn wrong.

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Now all you need is PROOF.

Juvenile assclowns don't need no stinkin proof!  All they need is a lynching party thrown by the media and they'll be right there every time!
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I have the proof I need.  You have the proof you need.  And yet one of us is damn wrong.

There is no proof at all.

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Juvenile assclowns don't need no stinkin proof!  All they need is a lynching party thrown by the media and they'll be right there every time!

So it seems. I don't see how that works at all!

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So it seems. I don't see how that works at all!

I think it comes from being conditioned to just blindly accept anything by what passes for our educational system these days.  Critical thinking was thrown under the bus in that arena long ago!
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Juvenile assclowns don't need no stinkin proof!
Look at that Bigun...we agree.

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Look at that Bigun...we agree.

Hallalujah!  Repent before it's too late!
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Hallalujah!  Repent before it's too late!
Now that I gotta see!  :shrug:
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I'm perfectly capable of being smarmy all by myself.

But the 48 hours have passed and the challenge was ignored, so I guess it is all over and settled now.

ROY MOORE IS A FILTHY STINKING CHILD MOLESTER is not a statement I should be declaring based off the victim's refusal to turn evidence over to her molester

Sounds like you think the National Enquirer is a legit source of news.
The Republic is lost.

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This sounds like smoke and mirrors.

Lawyers can't legally demand other lawyers do squat in any binding way.

What they can do is file a lawsuit claiming defamation with severe damages and go to court and persuade a judge to issue an order to investigate if the evidence is valid or not. Pretty easy to demonstrate damages if the evidence is fake.

So until Moore's lawyer actually files a lawsuit demanding a review of the "evidence" and claimed damages as a result of the lies this is just smoke and mirrors.

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Sounds like you think the National Enquirer is a legit source of news.
  Oh look another feces flinging monkey.  What a show :)

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  Oh look another feces flinging monkey.  What a show :)

And we got a true believer here. These women are crap. Their stories are crap. Their evidence is zero. The only 'evidence' they do have is a BS yearbook signature. All this is from a scumbag WaPo reporter and a scumbag grifting lawyer. The only credible witness can only attest to Moore getting her alcohol a year before the legal age of 19.

This is such a blatant example of a coordinated political hit job it's like someone was reading it out of a book. The is Herman Cain new and improved.

If you don't have the brain cells to connect the dots, that's not my problem. If you want to gulp this garbage down like some gossip hungry cheerleader, that's your problem.
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Handwriting experts have already looked at it and are saying nothing is conclusive about the signature. For all we know, requesting the year book may not be that helpful.

There are a number of articles out there already that the handwriting has been analyzed, one was posted in this forum.
There are preliminary appearances, but to be properly analyzed, people have to have access to the original document.
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There are preliminary appearances, but to be properly analyzed, people have to have access to the original document.

Roy Moore is the one requesting for the original, Gloria Allred and her client are the ones PREVENTING this from happening.

So, which party is looking like the one trying to suppress the truth?

Here's the other thing that might help -- why not propose that Roy Moore and Beverly Nelson BOTH go through a lie detector test?
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Roy Moore is the one requesting for the original, Gloria Allred and her client are the ones PREVENTING this from happening.

So, which party is looking like the one trying to suppress the truth?

Here's the other thing that might help -- why not propose that Roy Moore and Beverly Nelson BOTH go through a lie detector test?
Her Client??? This isn't a federal case, and Gloria Allredy a Sleezball isn't licensed to practice law in Alabama, so how can she be a Client?
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Her Client??? This isn't a federal case, and Gloria Allredy a Sleezball isn't licensed to practice law in Alabama, so how can she be a Client?

As long as this woman retained Gloria, or someone else did on her behalf, she is Gloria's client.  Retention of an attorney and whether that attorney can practice in a particular jurisdiction are two separate matters. 

I don't know what the terms of the retention would be.  There might have been some upfront money paid and an agreement to represent signed.  Or Allred is taking this case on a contingent fee -- that is, if there is any money settled on her client, Allred gets a cut.  If there is no money by settlement, verdict or award, Allred doesn't get paid. 

As to practicing in Alabama -- Allred could retain local counsel to file papers and appear in court.  She could still be the main attorney and local counsel can be her lackeys. 

Honestly, I still don't think Allred wants to go to court.  Some attorneys call themselves litigators or trial attorneys, but they avoid trials at all costs, usually because they suck in a courtroom setting.  I think she's looking for an out-of-court payday.  She's an extortionist.

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As long as this woman retained Gloria, or someone else did on her behalf, she is Gloria's client.  Retention of an attorney and whether that attorney can practice in a particular jurisdiction are two separate matters. 

I don't know what the terms of the retention would be.  There might have been some upfront money paid and an agreement to represent signed.  Or Allred is taking this case on a contingent fee -- that is, if there is any money settled on her client, Allred gets a cut.  If there is no money by settlement, verdict or award, Allred doesn't get paid. 

As to practicing in Alabama -- Allred could retain local counsel to file papers and appear in court.  She could still be the main attorney and local counsel can be her lackeys. 

Honestly, I still don't think Allred wants to go to court.  Some attorneys call themselves litigators or trial attorneys, but they avoid trials at all costs, usually because they suck in a courtroom setting.  I think she's looking for an out-of-court payday.  She's an extortionist.
Extortionist says it all and explains the unfounded allegations and lack of evidence.
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As long as this woman retained Gloria, or someone else did on her behalf, she is Gloria's client.  Retention of an attorney and whether that attorney can practice in a particular jurisdiction are two separate matters. 

I don't know what the terms of the retention would be.  There might have been some upfront money paid and an agreement to represent signed.  Or Allred is taking this case on a contingent fee -- that is, if there is any money settled on her client, Allred gets a cut.  If there is no money by settlement, verdict or award, Allred doesn't get paid. 

As to practicing in Alabama -- Allred could retain local counsel to file papers and appear in court.  She could still be the main attorney and local counsel can be her lackeys. 

Honestly, I still don't think Allred wants to go to court.  Some attorneys call themselves litigators or trial attorneys, but they avoid trials at all costs, usually because they suck in a courtroom setting.  I think she's looking for an out-of-court payday.  She's an extortionist.
At this point by declaring her a 'client', any conversations they have had relating to the veracity of testimony or the writing in the yearbook are now priviliged under the penumbra of 'attorney client relations'. This keeps Allred from being subpoenaed to testify in the event the information is false, and protects her from liability if that comes out. This is why the gambit includes a Congressional hearing (not a judicial body of first jurisdiction). Take this to court in Alabama and Allred is on the back bench as an advisor.
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Allred is a hired PR gun. She first tries people in the court of public opinion. She doesn't need a law license in Alabama to do that. She has shakedown down to an art form. A courtroom comes later if there's money to be made.

If Moore is innocent he'd sue now forcing this into a courtroom ASAP raising the stakes for Allred and her client.

Why hasn't Moore done that?

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And we got a true believer here. These women are crap.

Ain't they all?  You should join my "He Man Women Hater Club."

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Their stories are crap.

I find them compelling and nauseatingly and eerily familiar...but then I know several woman who have been raped...I guess I'm just a crap magnet...or the world is crappy.

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Their evidence is zero.

There are corroborating witnesses and many accusers...but not one single person willing to defend Moore free of charge.  I don't have that many friends but I would like to think if someone said Once-Ler was banned from the Mall because he was 30 and soliciting minors as a DA...somebody would step forward and tell them I was too drunk to drive to the Mall and I've always been into GILFs. 

I can't wait to see the climax of this soap opera.

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The only 'evidence' they do have is a BS yearbook signature. All this is from a scumbag WaPo reporter and a scumbag grifting lawyer. The only credible witness can only attest to Moore getting her alcohol a year before the legal age of 19.

This is such a blatant example of a coordinated political hit job it's like someone was reading it out of a book. The is Herman Cain new and improved.

If you don't have the brain cells to connect the dots, that's not my problem. If you want to gulp this garbage down like some gossip hungry cheerleader, that's your problem.

I have connected the dots many times...in fact frequently, twice yesterday.  Problem, or Constitutional Right?
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but not one single person willing to defend Moore free of charge. 

What about these women? Were they paid?

https://www.roymoore.org/Press-Releases/124/Alabama-Women-Affirm-the-Character-of-Judge-Roy-Moore

What about Beverly Nelson's STEPSON, Darrell Nelson who accuses his mother of being a serial manipulator and is
OPENLY supportive of Roy Moore, was he paid too?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTGOrilz80U

What about the Mall Manager who does not corroborate  the accusation that Moore was banned at the Garsden Mall,
he says he's voting for Moore. Was he paid too?

http://www.dailywire.com/news/23754/watch-former-alabama-mall-manager-drops-bombshell-ryan-saavedra#exit-modal

What about the GOP party of Alabama, who continue to support Roy Moore. How does Moore get the money to pay them?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/17/politics/kayla-moore-alabama-gop/index.html

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What about these women? Were they paid?

https://www.roymoore.org/Press-Releases/124/Alabama-Women-Affirm-the-Character-of-Judge-Roy-Moore

What about Beverly Nelson's STEPSON, Darrell Nelson who accuses his mother of being a serial manipulator and is
OPENLY supportive of Roy Moore, was he paid too?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTGOrilz80U

What about the Mall Manager who does not corroborate  the accusation that Moore was banned at the Garsden Mall,
he says he's voting for Moore. Was he paid too?

http://www.dailywire.com/news/23754/watch-former-alabama-mall-manager-drops-bombshell-ryan-saavedra#exit-modal

What about the GOP party of Alabama, who continue to support Roy Moore. How does Moore get the money to pay them?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/17/politics/kayla-moore-alabama-gop/index.html

Who were you quoting in your post? I would like to inform that person that I have consistently defended Roy Moore and no one has paid me a penny!
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So, has the 48 hours passed?  Did Allred submit the yearbook for examination?