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Grassley working to set up calls with Kavanaugh, accuser before vote
The Hill, Sep 16, 2018, Jordain Carney
Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, is working to set up separate phone calls with Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh and his accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, before a committee vote scheduled for Thursday.
"Given the late addendum to the background file and revelations of Dr. Ford’s identity, Chairman Grassley is actively working to set up such follow-up calls with Judge Kavanaugh and Dr. Ford ahead of Thursday’s scheduled vote," a spokesman for Grassley said on Sunday.
The aide added that "the Chairman and Ranking Member routinely hold bipartisan staff calls with nominees when updates are made to nominees’ background files."
More: http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/406939-grassley-working-to-set-up-calls-with-kavanaugh-ford-before-vote (http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/406939-grassley-working-to-set-up-calls-with-kavanaugh-ford-before-vote)
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This doesn't look good as far as a vote on Thurs.
I was just on twitter and couldn't believe how many Repubs are ready to throw Kavanaugh under the bus so Trump can hurry and nominate someone else...do they not realize the next nominee will be attacked by the Dems too!
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Grassley’s office says in a statement, “It’s disturbing that these uncorroborated allegations from more than 35 years ago, during high school, would surface on the eve of a committee vote after Democrats sat on them since July. If Ranking Member Feinstein and other Committee Democrats took this claim seriously, they should have brought it to the full Committee’s attention much earlier. Instead, they said nothing during two joint phone calls with the nominee in August, four days of lengthy public hearings, a closed session for all committee members with the nominee where sensitive topics can be discussed and in more than 1,300 written questions.â€
https://www.mediaite.com/online/sen-grassleys-office-disturbing-that-uncorroborated-allegations-against-kavanaugh-would-only-now-surface/ (https://www.mediaite.com/online/sen-grassleys-office-disturbing-that-uncorroborated-allegations-against-kavanaugh-would-only-now-surface/)
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This doesn't look good as far as a vote on Thurs.
I was just on twitter and couldn't believe how many Repubs are ready to throw Kavanaugh under the bus so Trump can hurry and nominate someone else...do they not realize the next nominee will be attacked by the Dems too!
I saw two of the twitter quotes you posted ... and I doubt they're from Republicans @mystery-ak
But, as usual, the GOP caucus has not held together. Grassley's hands are being tied by members of his own caucus. Hopefully this will be a satisfactory compromise for the R side of the aisle. D's are a lost cause.
In the meantime, some of the best investigators need to be crawling through this woman's life---the woman who has scrubbed her social media footprint clean for reasons we need to know. But this should just be a challenge for a good investigator and we're going to need all the information we can find because vote or no vote, this is now an election issue.
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Both Flake and Corker are saying they want to hear from this woman. Kavanaugh looked like a good pick, but in hindsight perhaps a woman would have been a wiser choice in the MeToo era.
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@mystery-ak
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I really don't see the problem with Kavanaugh, as long as he recuses himself from any case having to do with young women in bikinis drinking beer.
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https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1041397738645028864
Ryan Saavedra @RealSaavedra
Judge Brett Kavanaugh's accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, has donated money to the Democratic National Committee (DNC), Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), and Friends Of Bernie Sanders.
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This doesn't look good as far as a vote on Thurs.
I was just on twitter and couldn't believe how many Repubs are ready to throw Kavanaugh under the bus so Trump can hurry and nominate someone else...do they not realize the next nominee will be attacked by the Dems too!
I do not like it that Grassley seems to think he should give this woman and her little partner-in-crime DiFi the time of day. The charge is ancient; it cannot be proven and she is an obvious democrat plant.
It is an insult to Kavanaugh and all of us to even consider this bogus charge.
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https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/mike-pence-dumped-college-fiancee-sinner-narced-beer-drinking-frat-bros-report/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/mike-pence-dumped-college-fiancee-sinner-narced-beer-drinking-frat-bros-report/)
Mike Pence dumped his college fiancee for being a 'sinner' and narced on his beer-drinking frat bros: report
https://twitter.com/CalebHowe/status/1041560168734117888 (https://twitter.com/CalebHowe/status/1041560168734117888)
Caleb Howe @CalebHowe
9 minutes ago
Caleb Howe Retweeted Raw Story
Wait, are we FOR being drunken frat bros or against it?
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I think the Republican Collapse to confirm Kavanaugh has begun and gravity and inertia have taken over.
Predictable.
"We probably should just drop all the pretenses, tell McConnell that the jig is up
and let everyone know that we actually run the Republican Party"
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Both Flake and Corker are saying they want to hear from this woman. Kavanaugh looked like a good pick, but in hindsight perhaps a woman would have been a wiser choice in the MeToo era.
So now she's saying: “I thought he might inadvertently kill meâ€.
https://apnews.com/e2c35c0fb46f4464bcda77441caf1f7b/Woman-accusing-Kavanaugh-of-sexual-misconduct-comes-forward
On the flip side it might provide an opportunity for Kavanaugh to clear his name. She may come across as a nut when asked detailed questions. There maybe other people she's falsely accused. Who knows...
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If the Republicans fall for this bucket of BS, it will be the biggest most successful "Borking" on the flimsiest innuendo ever! This will make the Democrats feel like they are invulnerable, above any stupid 'evidence' and above the law itself. This will prove that evidence and actual guilt are irrelevant. The only thing that matters is words and accusations, just like in the Salem witch trials. The accusation itself is proof of guilt.
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If the Republicans fall for this bucket of BS, it will be the biggest most successful "Borking" on the flimsiest innuendo ever! This will make the Democrats feel like they are invulnerable, above any stupid 'evidence' and above the law itself. This will prove that evidence and actual guilt are irrelevant. The only thing that matters is words and accusations, just like in the Salem witch trials. The accusation itself is proof of guilt.
Or, as it was under Soviet Communism.
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I do not like it that Grassley seems to think he should give this woman and her little partner-in-crime DiFi the time of day. The charge is ancient; it cannot be proven and she is an obvious democrat plant.
It is an insult to Kavanaugh and all of us to even consider this bogus charge.
This is all about Roe v Wade.
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Both Flake and Corker are saying they want to hear from this woman. Kavanaugh looked like a good pick, but in hindsight perhaps a woman would have been a wiser choice in the MeToo era.
It would not have mattered. The left was ready with a campaign against any potential nominee. That was revealed the night he was announced and their ‘oppose xxx’ e-mail was exposed. There’s probably a ready made collection of accusations against all the people on the known list of 20+ judges.
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It is possible they have information that proves she isn't telling the truth. If that's the case they should have her before the committee and set the record straight. I know, it isn't very likely but it is possible.
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It is possible they have information that proves she isn't telling the truth. If that's the case they should have her before the committee and set the record straight. I know, it isn't very likely but it is possible.
It is impossible to prove a negative. What we have here is a clear example of the skillful use of satan's tool box. And the devil is a lot smarter that 2/3 of Republicans. Hell, half of them are on his team.
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It would not have mattered. The left was ready with a campaign against any potential nominee. That was revealed the night he was announced and their ‘oppose xxx’ e-mail was exposed. There’s probably a ready made collection of accusations against all the people on the known list of 20+ judges.
Exactly..
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It is impossible to prove a negative. What we have here is a clear example of the skillful use of satan's tool box. And the devil is a lot smarter that 2/3 of Republicans. Hell, half of them are on his team.
:amen:
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Kavanaugh would be a shoe in for President with credentials like this as a dem.
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I really don't see the problem with Kavanaugh, as long as he recuses himself from any case having to do with young women in bikinis drinking beer.
LOL, what a great way to start the day!
:amen:
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On the flip side it might provide an opportunity for Kavanaugh to clear his name. She may come across as a nut when asked detailed questions. There maybe other people she's falsely accused. Who knows...
Right -- lots of unknowns (at least to us message-board schlubs) here. It is entirely possible that Grassley already has spoken with Kavanaugh in detail about this, and is confident he will come out of this looking good. Very helpful that the other accused guy is also saying this is nuts. I've read elsewhere that she has admitted being unable to remember exactly when this happened, and has been inconsistent in some of the other details she reported.
If Kavanaugh and the other guy say "nothing like this ever happened -- either she's got the wrong guys or she's just making it all up", and it is simply her word against theirs, then I think he's confirmed, and the Dems look pretty bad.
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I do not like it that Grassley seems to think he should give this woman and her little partner-in-crime DiFi the time of day. The charge is ancient; it cannot be proven and she is an obvious democrat plant.
It is an insult to Kavanaugh and all of us to even consider this bogus charge.
Oh, but don't you know we are guilty until proven innocent! It's the seriousness of the charge not that it's from 35 years ago when they were in high school, or that there's no evidence, or history to lend any credence to this type of allegation. It's anita hill all over again.
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I think the Republican Collapse to confirm Kavanaugh has begun and gravity and inertia have taken over.
Predictable.
It sure does seem that any Pub Senator with an axe to grind with Trump is going to jump up and play the Rat game. It doesn't much matter that a decent man will get dragged through the mud.
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take a look at this...interesting...I may give it it's own thread
Christine Blasey-Ford motive: Revenge – Kavanaugh’s mother judge against parents in foreclosure case 1996
https://www.pacificpundit.com/2018/09/16/christine-blasey-ford-revenge-parents-foreclosure/ (https://www.pacificpundit.com/2018/09/16/christine-blasey-ford-revenge-parents-foreclosure/)
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I do not like it that Grassley seems to think he should give this woman and her little partner-in-crime DiFi the time of day. The charge is ancient; it cannot be proven and she is an obvious democrat plant.
It is an insult to Kavanaugh and all of us to even consider this bogus charge.
Here's the thing -- we don't know everything Grassley knows. If Grassley believes the evidence will suggest that it isn't true, then he's actually doing Kavanaugh a favor by giving him a chance to rebut this publicly, in front of the entire country. The alternative is having this accusation hang over Kavanaugh, essentially unrebutted in the eyes of most of the public, for the rest of his life. It is entirely possible Grassley believes that when all is said and done, the Democrats will come out of this looking terrible. There may be a lot of facts of which we are unaware.
Just looking at Kavanaugh...he doesn't exactly seem like he was a party animal in high school. Seems more like the nerdy type that may not even have gotten invited to many parties in the first place. I'd hold off on judging Grassley on this until we see how it all plays out. It is entirely possible that Kavanaugh's rebuttal/denial will be very powerful, and will really hurt the Dems going into the midterms.
Obviously, that may not be the case as well. But we here simply don't know, so it seems premature to criticize Grassley.
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Lol. The octogenarians in the democrat party still haven't figured out this world wide web thing.
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The next nominee will be Amy Coney Barrett and the Democrats will go bat shit crazy.
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This doesn't look good as far as a vote on Thurs.
I was just on twitter and couldn't believe how many Repubs are ready to throw Kavanaugh under the bus so Trump can hurry and nominate someone else...do they not realize the next nominee will be attacked by the Dems too!
The other problem is who would want to go thur this process? The Marxists are willing to destroy
the country. This is why EVERYONE needs to vote GOP in Nov. We can not allow the Marxist to
regain power.
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This doesn't look good as far as a vote on Thurs.
I was just on twitter and couldn't believe how many Repubs are ready to throw Kavanaugh under the bus so Trump can hurry and nominate someone else...do they not realize the next nominee will be attacked by the Dems too!
They know the democrats intend to push the process past the midterms, when they believe they have a shot at taking congress. Whether the GOP stands by Kavanaugh or not Grassley at all costs needs to speed things up.
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This is all about Roe v Wade.
Of course. And while Kavanaugh would likely uphold Roe as settled law, Amy Coney Barrett strikes me as the sort of judicial activist that might just vote to abolish it. The Dems should be careful what they wish for.
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They know the democrats intend to push the process past the midterms, when they believe they have a shot at taking congress. Whether the GOP stands by Kavanaugh or not Grassley at all costs needs to speed things up.
Exactly....
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Of course. And while Kavanaugh would likely uphold Roe as settled law, Coney Barrett strikes me as the sort of judicial activist that might just vote to abolish it. The Dems should be careful what they wish for.
If you think Barrett is an activist judge then you did not watch her confirmation hearing.
Here is a little short on her
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EV1UTnwOD0#)
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The other problem is who would want to go thur this process? The Marxists are willing to destroy
the country. This is why EVERYONE needs to vote GOP in Nov. We can not allow the Marxist to
regain power.
I agree. The threat of the Democrats regaining power is more dire than it has EVER been. They are literally 'out for blood'....OUR blood... and will be from now on. Everyone needs to catch a clue and get a whiff of that reality for the sake of the nation and of future generations. We can not allow the rats to become the majority in Congress this November.
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The other problem is who would want to go thur this process? The Marxists are willing to destroy
the country. This is why EVERYONE needs to vote GOP in Nov. We can not allow the Marxist to
regain power.
You're right!
It sure isn't because of anything the Pubs in Congress have done.
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This is why EVERYONE needs to vote GOP in Nov.
Nope. Never again.
We can not allow the Marxist to regain power.
Are you kidding? Your party will FUND IT!
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Call their bluff.
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. This is why EVERYONE needs to vote GOP in Nov. We can not allow the Marxist to
regain power.
That's right. Whether you like Trump or loathe him, get out and vote this November and urge others to do so.
Whether you like or loathe your local "RINO" Congressperson, get out and vote this November and urge others to do so.
The Kavanaugh battle shows the stakes as the Dems see it. They will literally destroy honorable men for political advantage. Only a resolute and united People can effectively oppose such amorality.
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Nope. Never again.
Are you kidding? Your party will FUND IT!
Oh, just STFU.
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It is possible they have information that proves she isn't telling the truth. If that's the case they should have her before the committee and set the record straight. I know, it isn't very likely but it is possible.
They should have the vote and ignore this ploy. They will be condemned for doing so by the libs and dems but who cares. I don't.
Brett should not be put through a circus like Justice Thomas was. Even though he was confirmed, it left a lot of ugliness on the reputation of a good man and his wife had to suffer through all that.
I'm still mad about it.
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Call their bluff.
Absolutely. The dems had every opportunity to question Kavanaugh about everything in his life.
And they did so. They could not find a scintilla of anything wrong.
If the Republicans cave and give this scummy democrat activist woman and her mentor, the equally scummy Dianne Feinstein the time of day on this charge I will be so angry and disappointed.
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Brett should not be put through a circus like Justice Thomas was. Even though he was confirmed, it left a lot of ugliness on the reputation of a good man and his wife had to suffer through all that.
I'm still mad about it.
Unfortunately, Thomas was smeared as soon as those allegations were made. The hearing gave him a chance to refute them. The same with Kavanaugh -- he was wrongly smeared when Feinstein and the WaPo dumped this story in the first place. If he doesn't testify, the allegation is going to be considered unanswered by a whole lot of people.
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Oh, just STFU.
NOPE.
Not shutting up.
Ever.
Not until I'm in the ground.
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Grassley should just tell the libtards, that the accuser should present their evidence by noon on Sep 20, or just STFU. And then proceed to a vote as planned. Kavenaugh has already categorically denied the accusations. Now it’s up the her, contrary to her lawyer’s stupid comment that they don’t have to prove crap.
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So now she's saying: “I thought he might inadvertently kill meâ€.
https://apnews.com/e2c35c0fb46f4464bcda77441caf1f7b/Woman-accusing-Kavanaugh-of-sexual-misconduct-comes-forward
On the flip side it might provide an opportunity for Kavanaugh to clear his name. She may come across as a nut when asked detailed questions. There maybe other people she's falsely accused. Who knows...
Oh, Kavanaugh could definitely clear his name; plus a lot of unsavory stuff would probably come out about this woman.
But I don't want to do this. She does not deserve a hearing. I don't know why Grassley would mess around with this. He's already stated that the charge was not brought timely and there was plenty of opportunity for that to have happened.
It's not fair to Brett to give this woman any time at all.
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Grassley should just tell the libtards, that the accuser should present their evidence by noon on Sep 20, or just STFU. And then proceed to a vote as planned. Kavenaugh has already categorically denied the accusations. Now it’s up the her, contrary to her lawyer’s stupid comment that they don’t have to prove crap.
Sadly, the Republican party has let set in cement the precedent that "The serious of the charge is what matters" when levied by a Democrat/Leftist.
That same rule however does not apply when levied by Conservatives/Republicans/Independents at Democrats/Leftist (i.e.: Hillary's e-mail server/pedophelia accusations et al.).
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Unfortunately, Thomas was smeared as soon as those allegations were made. The hearing gave him a chance to refute them. The same with Kavanaugh -- he was wrongly smeared when Feinstein and the WaPo dumped this story in the first place. If he doesn't testify, the allegation is going to be considered unanswered by a whole lot of people.
I don't care. It can be gone into after he's confirmed. But, guess what, once he's confirmed this woman will crawl back into whatever hole she crawled out of.
No sane person will consider her allegation unanswered. Brett has already answered it.
We cannot let these people hijack this nomination by a sleazy Anita Hill type attack.
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This lefttard can’t prove squat. Has no other witness and in fact has more witness against her allegations. Don’t give her or her delaying, leftrats the time of day. Just vote.
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This lefttard can’t prove squat. Has no other witness and in fact has more witness against her allegations. Don’t give her or her delaying, leftrats the time of day. Just vote.
Amen. Grassley has made his case. Now he needs to hang tough and forget about some stupid phone calls.
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This lefttard can’t prove squat. Has no other witness and in fact has more witness against her allegations. Don’t give her or her delaying, leftrats the time of day. Just vote.
I could see this pasty drip being befuddled by a one piece bathing suit, but nobody really believes this happened. Let her speak, so some of her motives can be brought to the fore in the hearing.
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It is impossible to prove a negative. What we have here is a clear example of the skillful use of satan's tool box. And the devil is a lot smarter that 2/3 of Republicans. Hell, half of them are on his team.
It might well be possible to prove they weren't at the same location at the same time. There may be a number of witnesses at the party that say she was never there or if she was knew where she was. She also said she was the only female there. If another female testifies she was there that's a big problem.
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It might well be possible to prove they weren't at the same location at the same time. There may be a number of witnesses at the party that say she was never there or if she was knew where she was. She also said she was the only female there. If another female testifies she was there that's a big problem.
Who were the other two boys? She remembers there were two others, but does she remember who they were? Probably not, conveniently.
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I could see this pasty drip being befuddled by a one piece bathing suit, but nobody really believes this happened. Let her speak, so some of her motives can be brought to the fore in the hearing.
I wouldn’t let her have time of day, unless she produces some iota of evidence. Unfounded accusations have no place in the governance this country.