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Title: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: mystery-ak on July 07, 2017, 07:50:31 pm
First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
By Josh Delk - 07/07/17 02:23 PM EDT

First lady Melania Trump was sent in to try and end the meeting between President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin at the G-20 summit, which had run significantly long, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said on Friday.

U.S. officials sent in the first lady to end the scheduled 30-minute meeting when it had run for more than an hour. Melania was unsuccessful, and the meeting ended up running for 2 hours and 16 minutes.

more
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/341013-first-lady-sent-in-to-end-trump-putin-meeting
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: corbe on July 07, 2017, 08:19:24 pm
   Monitoring Putin's Twitter Feed:

Quote
Vladimir Putin‏ @PutinRF_Eng · 1h hour ago 

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Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: XenaLee on July 07, 2017, 08:21:06 pm
First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
By Josh Delk - 07/07/17 02:23 PM EDT

First lady Melania Trump was sent in to try and end the meeting between President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin at the G-20 summit, which had run significantly long, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said on Friday.

U.S. officials sent in the first lady to end the scheduled 30-minute meeting when it had run for more than an hour. Melania was unsuccessful, and the meeting ended up running for 2 hours and 16 minutes.

more
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/341013-first-lady-sent-in-to-end-trump-putin-meeting

Maybe they should have sent her in wearing a bikini (thong?)...lol.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 07, 2017, 08:27:45 pm
Maybe they should have sent her in wearing a bikini (thong?)...lol.

There's an idea close to half if us reading this can get behind!   888high58888
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: XenaLee on July 07, 2017, 08:35:22 pm
There's an idea close to half if us reading this can get behind!   888high58888

Well you have to admit.... that would have broken the meeting up good & proper.... both men being red-blooded heterosexuals....lol.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Rivergirl on July 07, 2017, 08:44:15 pm
Where was Ivanka when they needed her.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 07, 2017, 08:46:50 pm
Where was Ivanka when they needed her.

Probablly getting a suntan on a beach in New Jersey.   :whistle:
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Fantom on July 08, 2017, 02:07:41 am
There's an idea close to half if us reading this can get behind!   888high58888

Or rather a Behind that we ALL can appreciate.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Wingnut on July 08, 2017, 02:44:02 am
Trump be like, "I be putin that later."
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: rodamala on July 08, 2017, 03:21:22 am
They obviously needed someone to judge a penis-measuring contest.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: edpc on July 08, 2017, 03:10:08 pm
I know most guys have experienced this scenario.....

You're at some social event and your companion give you the sign it's time to go.  You politely wrap things up and go on your way.  Sometime later, you subtly indicate your desire to go.  She loudly and awkwardly says, 'What?  What is it?' as everyone stares at you. 

Sounds like he got 2 points for a reversal.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: corbe on July 08, 2017, 03:23:40 pm
Putin says Trump believed his denial that Russia meddled in election

 By Alicia Cohn  - 07/08/17 11:01 AM EDT
 

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Saturday said he assured President Trump that Russia did not interfere in the U.S. election, and that he thinks the president believed his denial.

Putin was the first leader to provide detailed comments about the meeting, which took place on Friday. It was the first face-to-face meeting between the two since Trump took office, and lasted nearly two hours longer than planned.

Trump should speak for himself on whether he believes Russia interfered, Putin said according to the Associated Press.

Prior to his meeting with Putin, Trump said Russia could have interfered in the 2016 election but "nobody really knows for sure."

Trump has yet to speak about the meeting with Putin aside from calling it “tremendous” in a brief aside earlier in the day. He is not holding a press conference in Germany, in a break with tradition.

<..snip..>

http://thehill.com/policy/international/341094-putin-thinks-trump-believed-denial-russia-meddled-in-election (http://thehill.com/policy/international/341094-putin-thinks-trump-believed-denial-russia-meddled-in-election)
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 08, 2017, 03:31:26 pm
If the Russians "interfered" with the election, it was by getting at the emails transmitted between Demorats, and from what's been published so far, it appears a child could have hacked his way in.  The Republicans were tight with their computer security, Dems were not and the Dems are blaming that on the Reps.  Meanwhile, the very biased press continues to play that up as a way to chip away at Republicans.

This will not keep playing for them.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: libertybele on July 08, 2017, 03:36:42 pm
They obviously needed someone to judge a penis-measuring contest.

Obviously someone needs a quick lesson on being couth.    :shrug:     A little respect for the POTUS and FLOTUS at this juncture is deserved.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on July 08, 2017, 03:51:22 pm
Obviously someone needs a quick lesson on being couth.    :shrug:     A little respect for the POTUS and FLOTUS at this juncture is deserved.

Thank you for this post @libertybele ...you've made the point in a much nicer way than I would have.   :beer:
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: edpc on July 08, 2017, 03:54:59 pm
Obviously someone needs a quick lesson on being couth.    :shrug:     A little respect for the POTUS qand FLOTUS at this juncture is deserved.

Is that supposed to be a joke?  He's in a triple header battle with JFK and LBJ for second most crass individual to occupy the Oval Office in the modern era.  Clinton is clearly in first.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Suppressed on July 08, 2017, 04:27:46 pm
Where was Ivanka when they needed her.


Busy...?
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,270934.0.html

 :shrug:
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Oceander on July 08, 2017, 04:30:21 pm
Obviously someone needs a quick lesson on being couth.    :shrug:     A little respect for the POTUS and FLOTUS at this juncture is deserved.

:bigsilly:
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: libertybele on July 08, 2017, 04:30:42 pm
Is that supposed to be a joke?  He's in a triple header battle with JFK and LBJ for second most crass individual to occupy the Oval Office in the modern era.  Clinton is clearly in first.

Definitely not a joke at all.  Take a close look at his demeanor among dignitaries and statehoods; he handles himself much differently and takes things much more seriously than when he wards off the ugliness from the MSM and the false accusations from the left. Yes there are times when he acts like a 5th grade bully, but he deserves credit where credit is due and I still am extremely grateful that we don't have the pantsuit lady as our leader. 

Comparing him to LBJ is an absolute utter disgrace.  I don't see this President deliberately trying to keep people downtrodden in order to get their vote; quite the opposite.

The sexist remark about our FLOTUS quite frankly, I found offensive and uncalled for.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Wingnut on July 08, 2017, 04:40:54 pm
Back away slowly. Boys.  Danger lurks.   **edited**    Man Overboard
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Half Vast Conspiracy on July 08, 2017, 04:47:11 pm
Obviously someone needs a quick lesson on being couth.    :shrug:     A little respect for the POTUS and FLOTUS at this juncture is deserved.
Couth?  That just the ways guys talk.  Nothing burger.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: libertybele on July 08, 2017, 04:48:08 pm
Back away slowly. Boys.  Danger lurks.  ***removed by mod8***

Really? One thing you did get right is labeling the sexist comments in here as coming from 'boys'.   :silly:
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: edpc on July 08, 2017, 04:49:40 pm
Comparing him to LBJ is an absolute utter disgrace.  I don't see this President deliberately trying to keep people downtrodden in order to get their vote; quite the opposite

Personal behavior and political maneuvers aren't the same thing.  Both men are legendary in the former and not in a positive way.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: libertybele on July 08, 2017, 04:50:04 pm
Couth?  That just the ways guys talk.  Nothing burger.

Remember that when someone talks that way about your wife or daughter.  Nothing burger.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: DCPatriot on July 08, 2017, 04:51:31 pm
They obviously needed someone to judge a penis-measuring contest.

 *****rollingeyes*****

(....because we don't have an eff-you emoji)
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: libertybele on July 08, 2017, 04:54:16 pm
Personal behavior and political maneuvers aren't the same thing.  Both men are legendary in the former and not in a positive way.

Perhaps, I'm misunderstanding your point, but are you saying that they had stellar personal behaviors but lacking with their political maneuvers?  If so, I strongly disagree.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: MOD8 on July 08, 2017, 05:00:18 pm
simmer down
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: libertybele on July 08, 2017, 05:01:15 pm
*****rollingeyes*****

(....because we don't have an eff-you emoji)

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Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Frank Cannon on July 08, 2017, 05:07:09 pm
Another innocuous thread going to shit. Top notch people.....

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Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: corbe on July 08, 2017, 05:11:59 pm
   It takes practice @Frank Cannon you've been conspicuously absent of late, Rehab?
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: edpc on July 08, 2017, 05:13:54 pm
Perhaps, I'm misunderstanding your point, but are you saying that they had stellar personal behaviors but lacking with their political maneuvers?

No, I'm saying the direct opposite.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: libertybele on July 08, 2017, 05:22:09 pm
No, I'm saying the direct opposite.

Which would be stellar political maneuvers and poor behavior.  Got it.  LBJ's political maneuvers which created his so-called "Great Society" is exactly why we have the liberal mental midgets who are clueless, dependent on government and feel that they are owed. LBJ's behavior fits the ticket.  So far, I don't see any of that in Trump's behavior as President.  Secondly, he's not even served a year; very early to be judging him.

Thirdly, the actions of LBJ and JFK have absolutely nothing to do with justifying slurring our First Lady.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Frank Cannon on July 08, 2017, 05:24:32 pm
   It takes practice @Frank Cannon you've been conspicuously absent of late, Rehab?

Jail. Outstanding "Mopery with Intent to Creep" warrants finally caught up to me.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Wingnut on July 08, 2017, 05:26:38 pm
   It takes practice @Frank Cannon you've been conspicuously absent of late, Rehab?

Gonna poke the bear today Corbett! :silly:
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: corbe on July 08, 2017, 05:30:26 pm
   Found your Mugshot, what were you doing in Iowa, stalking an unfashionable woman that owed you money?

(http://imgstore.jailbase.com/arrested/ia-jsso/2016-02-19/frank-cannon-13233.pic1.jpg)
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: libertybele on July 08, 2017, 05:31:10 pm
Jail. Outstanding "Mopery with Intent to Creep" warrants finally caught up to me.

Hey ... good thing you have a team of lawyers on your payroll, or are they strictly for your Coca-Cola memorabilia? :whistle: :whistle:
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Frank Cannon on July 08, 2017, 05:37:11 pm
   Found your Mugshot, what were you doing in Iowa, stalking an unfashionable woman that owed you money?

(http://imgstore.jailbase.com/arrested/ia-jsso/2016-02-19/frank-cannon-13233.pic1.jpg)

Nah. Got caught peeking in Chuck Grassley's bathroom window.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: edpc on July 08, 2017, 05:37:48 pm
Which would be stellar political maneuvers and poor behavior.  Got it.  LBJ's political maneuvers which created his so-called "Great Society" is exactly why we have the liberal mental midgets who are clueless, dependent on government and feel that they are owed. LBJ's behavior fits the ticket.  So far, I don't see any of that in Trump's behavior as President.  Secondly, he's not even served a year; very early to be judging him.

Thirdly, the actions of LBJ and JFK have absolutely nothing to do with justifying slurring our First Lady.

I drew the distinction between policy and behavior.  The Great Society program is irrelevant to the discussion.  Never mentioned Melania, either, so that's also immeterial to what I said.  Finally, you are who you are at his point in life, as were his 44 precedents.  Assuming the office didn't change them from good to bad, or vice-versa.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: libertybele on July 08, 2017, 05:58:07 pm
I drew the distinction between policy and behavior.  The Great Society program is irrelevant to the discussion.  Never mentioned Melania, either, so that's also immeterial to what I said.  Finally, you are who you are at his point in life, as were his 44 precedents.  Assuming the office didn't change them from good to bad, or vice-versa.

The Great Society was one of LBJ's most destructive political maneuvers on our society, so I don't see that as irrelevant. At any rate, you brought him up to begin with not I. This thread is about the First Lady. My reaction to a derogatory comment about her is when you commented and compared Trump to LBJ and JFK....which really was off topic.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: DCPatriot on July 08, 2017, 06:06:16 pm
The Great Society was one of LBJ's most destructive political maneuvers on our society, so I don't see that as irrelevant. At any rate, you brought him up to begin with not I. This thread is about the First Lady. My reaction to a derogatory comment about her is when you commented and compared Trump to LBJ and JFK....which really was off topic.

IMO, it takes second fiddle to:

Barack Obama's political maneuver....Open Southern border and conspiring with HIS Homeland Securty to allow the flood of Muslim single men from?  Who the hell knows?

The Obama Administration, by itself, is at the top of any list in terms of a destructive political maneuver to our society.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: DCPatriot on July 08, 2017, 06:09:28 pm
(https://media.tenor.com/images/8324433c6384b944300b2ce482f20fcf/tenor.gif)

LOL!   Strange....I watched that for far too long.     :laugh:
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Emjay on July 08, 2017, 06:36:38 pm
First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
By Josh Delk - 07/07/17 02:23 PM EDT

First lady Melania Trump was sent in to try and end the meeting between President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin at the G-20 summit, which had run significantly long, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said on Friday.

U.S. officials sent in the first lady to end the scheduled 30-minute meeting when it had run for more than an hour. Melania was unsuccessful, and the meeting ended up running for 2 hours and 16 minutes.

more
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/341013-first-lady-sent-in-to-end-trump-putin-meeting

I don't see the harm in this meeting being extended.  Unless everyone had something more important than the two main leaders of the world conversing.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: GtHawk on July 08, 2017, 07:13:49 pm
Couth?  That just the ways guys talk.  Nothing burger.
Back when I was just a lad of 16 I was schooled in the difference between guy talk and girl talk. I worked in a restaurant with twenty plus college age young ladies, they taught me that even guys locker room talk ain't got nothin on the girls when they get together talking less then shall we say, polite?

And sorry but I really don't see the big issue with comments, pretty mild, especially compared to what our Commander in Chief has a history of making himself.

The man is just our President, a man, nothing more.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Emjay on July 08, 2017, 07:41:52 pm
Is that supposed to be a joke?  He's in a triple header battle with JFK and LBJ for second most crass individual to occupy the Oval Office in the modern era.  Clinton is clearly in first.

I'd put LBJ in first.  JFK and even BJ did bad things with a little more class.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Emjay on July 08, 2017, 07:44:18 pm
Definitely not a joke at all.  Take a close look at his demeanor among dignitaries and statehoods; he handles himself much differently and takes things much more seriously than when he wards off the ugliness from the MSM and the false accusations from the left. Yes there are times when he acts like a 5th grade bully, but he deserves credit where credit is due and I still am extremely grateful that we don't have the pantsuit lady as our leader. 

Comparing him to LBJ is an absolute utter disgrace.  I don't see this President deliberately trying to keep people downtrodden in order to get their vote; quite the opposite.

The sexist remark about our FLOTUS quite frankly, I found offensive and uncalled for.

You are quite right @libertybele but some words just seem to turn all threads into a pile of donkey doo doo.

Guys just can't resist trying to outgross each other.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Emjay on July 08, 2017, 07:58:38 pm
Back when I was just a lad of 16 I was schooled in the difference between guy talk and girl talk. I worked in a restaurant with twenty plus college age young ladies, they taught me that even guys locker room talk ain't got nothin on the girls when they get together talking less then shall we say, polite?

And sorry but I really don't see the big issue with comments, pretty mild, especially compared to what our Commander in Chief has a history of making himself.

The man is just our President, a man, nothing more.


I'm sorry you experienced that.  My father nor my husband ever felt the need to display macho by crude comments.

I hate the way people talk now and I do it also.  I guess we can't put that particular genie back into the box but I wish we could.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: edpc on July 08, 2017, 08:42:55 pm
I'd put LBJ in first.  JFK and even BJ did bad things with a little more class.

Sorry, gotta disagree.  The cigar incident and 'presidue' in the Oval Office top them all.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Emjay on July 08, 2017, 08:54:02 pm
Sorry, gotta disagree.  The cigar incident and 'presidue' in the Oval Office top them all.

Yeah, guess you're right. 
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Silver Pines on July 08, 2017, 09:54:38 pm
Obviously someone needs a quick lesson on being couth.    :shrug:     A little respect for the POTUS and FLOTUS at this juncture is deserved.

@libertybele

They're still public servants.  I like Melania as much as anyone, but I'm not going to elevate her on a pedestal.  She's not a queen.  As for Trump, come on.  We know what kind of man he is.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Silver Pines on July 08, 2017, 09:56:53 pm

The sexist remark about our FLOTUS quite frankly, I found offensive and uncalled for.

@libertybele

Sexist?

Really?
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Emjay on July 08, 2017, 10:36:25 pm
@libertybele

They're still public servants.  I like Melania as much as anyone, but I'm not going to elevate her on a pedestal.  She's not a queen.  As for Trump, come on.  We know what kind of man he is.

Melania's popularity with the public is soaring.  She has not put a designer clad foot wrong yet.

I think she deserves some respect ... not pedestal respect but respect she has earned as First Lady.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Half Vast Conspiracy on July 09, 2017, 12:50:22 am
Remember that when someone talks that way about your wife or daughter.  Nothing burger.
Or when the president grabs you by the bleep.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: libertybele on July 09, 2017, 02:44:51 am
@libertybele

They're still public servants.  I like Melania as much as anyone, but I'm not going to elevate her on a pedestal.  She's not a queen.  As for Trump, come on.  We know what kind of man he is.

Melania is not an elected official, nor a paid public servant.  She simply is married to our president and certain duties have become associated and expected from our First Lady. No.  I certainly do not have her on a pedestal, but she is poised, and has a dignified demeanor about her and is always tastefully dressed for whatever occasion she may accompany the President to.  No, I've never held President Trump on a pedestal, I am a huge Cruz supporter.  There were comments and actions by Trump while campaigning that were completely bombastic and narcissistic and when he became the GOP nominee I was amazed and disappointed.  He became our President.  Most importantly has shown the leadership that our past president clearly lacked.  IMHO he has been bombarded from both sides of the aisle and the MSM with negativity and accusations.  Perhaps you may feel rightfully so, the way I see it, I can't remember a President that has been treated so terribly. When he was voted in, I breathed a huge sigh of relief that Hillary was over.  I decided at that point in time to wipe the slate clean in evaluating him.  His pre-inaugural festivies brought tears to my eyes.  He has appointed a conservative justice as promised.  The hold up on the wall and Bammycare are primarily the fault of a RINO laden Congress.  We hold the majority, but the RINO's are still in place and the poor (and I'm being polite) leadership is still in place.

To make a sexist comment against his wife I found uncalled for.  From where I sit, I see that he is trying to take this country in a better direction then it was headed...yet the Trump bashing continues, even if it means degrading his wife.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Suppressed on July 09, 2017, 02:50:11 am
Couth?  That just the ways guys talk.  Nothing burger.

I saw what you did there!   :silly: 

@Half Vast Conspiracy
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: austingirl on July 09, 2017, 02:54:10 am
Melania is not an elected official, nor a paid public servant.  She simply is married to our president and certain duties have become associated and expected from our First Lady. No.  I certainly do not have her on a pedestal, but she is poised, and has a dignified demeanor about her and is always tastefully dressed for whatever occasion she may accompany the President to.  No, I've never held President Trump on a pedestal, I am a huge Cruz supporter.  There were comments and actions by Trump while campaigning that were completely bombastic and narcissistic and when he became the GOP nominee I was amazed and disappointed.  He became our President.  Most importantly has shown the leadership that our past president clearly lacked.  IMHO he has been bombarded from both sides of the aisle and the MSM with negativity and accusations.  Perhaps you may feel rightfully so, the way I see it, I can't remember a President that has been treated so terribly. When he was voted in, I breathed a huge sigh of relief that Hillary was over.  I decided at that point in time to wipe the slate clean in evaluating him.  His pre-inaugural festivies brought tears to my eyes.  He has appointed a conservative justice as promised.  The hold up on the wall and Bammycare are primarily the fault of a RINO laden Congress.  We hold the majority, but the RINO's are still in place and the poor (and I'm being polite) leadership is still in place.

To make a sexist comment against his wife I found uncalled for.  From where I sit, I see that he is trying to take this country in a better direction then it was headed...yet the Trump bashing continues, even if it means degrading his wife.

Great post!
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: libertybele on July 09, 2017, 02:56:31 am
Or when the president grabs you by the bleep.

Yep, I remember the leak of the locker room talk which apparently happened awhile ago.  He made terrible comments towards Cruz, Fiorina, Carson, Kelley and others while campaigning.  There is no excuse for his 5th grade bully-like actions and comments and I certainly didn't vote for him in the primaries.  However, I am not aware of any such comments are actions coming from him so far as President and he has surprised me with his leadership.  He's 7 months into his presidency ... yet people are judging him as if he's already served two terms!
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: berdie on July 09, 2017, 03:11:38 am
Melania's popularity with the public is soaring.  She has not put a designer clad foot wrong yet.

I think she deserves some respect ... not pedestal respect but respect she has earned as First Lady.

She's got my respect (not pedestal)  for going into a meeting between Putin and Trump to try to break it up.

Even in my little world, I wouldn't have tried that with my hubby and any body. 'Course, I don't and never did look like Melania. ^-^
 
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Half Vast Conspiracy on July 09, 2017, 03:22:07 am
I saw what you did there!   :silly: 

@Half Vast Conspiracy
I'm glad someone did.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Emjay on July 09, 2017, 04:31:54 am
Melania is not an elected official, nor a paid public servant.  She simply is married to our president and certain duties have become associated and expected from our First Lady. No.  I certainly do not have her on a pedestal, but she is poised, and has a dignified demeanor about her and is always tastefully dressed for whatever occasion she may accompany the President to.  No, I've never held President Trump on a pedestal, I am a huge Cruz supporter.  There were comments and actions by Trump while campaigning that were completely bombastic and narcissistic and when he became the GOP nominee I was amazed and disappointed.  He became our President.  Most importantly has shown the leadership that our past president clearly lacked.  IMHO he has been bombarded from both sides of the aisle and the MSM with negativity and accusations.  Perhaps you may feel rightfully so, the way I see it, I can't remember a President that has been treated so terribly. When he was voted in, I breathed a huge sigh of relief that Hillary was over.  I decided at that point in time to wipe the slate clean in evaluating him.  His pre-inaugural festivies brought tears to my eyes.  He has appointed a conservative justice as promised.  The hold up on the wall and Bammycare are primarily the fault of a RINO laden Congress.  We hold the majority, but the RINO's are still in place and the poor (and I'm being polite) leadership is still in place.

To make a sexist comment against his wife I found uncalled for.  From where I sit, I see that he is trying to take this country in a better direction then it was headed...yet the Trump bashing continues, even if it means degrading his wife.

That is a wonderful post.  I'm in the same boat.  I really disliked Trump during the primaries and, by extension, I didn't like Melania either.

But Melania has been a really good First Lady.  It's a pleasure to see her pictures ... so perfectly dressed for all occasions and never embarrassing like the previous Flotus. 

I, too, wiped the slate clean with Trump and he has been so much better than I expected. 

If the worst thing he ever does is tweet, I'm okay with that.

I don't think Melania deserves the criticism she's gotten here by some but that's the name of some people's game.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: DCPatriot on July 09, 2017, 06:42:01 am
Melania is not an elected official, nor a paid public servant.  She simply is married to our president and certain duties have become associated and expected from our First Lady. No.  I certainly do not have her on a pedestal, but she is poised, and has a dignified demeanor about her and is always tastefully dressed for whatever occasion she may accompany the President to.  No, I've never held President Trump on a pedestal, I am a huge Cruz supporter.  There were comments and actions by Trump while campaigning that were completely bombastic and narcissistic and when he became the GOP nominee I was amazed and disappointed.  He became our President.  Most importantly has shown the leadership that our past president clearly lacked.  IMHO he has been bombarded from both sides of the aisle and the MSM with negativity and accusations.  Perhaps you may feel rightfully so, the way I see it, I can't remember a President that has been treated so terribly. When he was voted in, I breathed a huge sigh of relief that Hillary was over.  I decided at that point in time to wipe the slate clean in evaluating him.  His pre-inaugural festivies brought tears to my eyes.  He has appointed a conservative justice as promised.  The hold up on the wall and Bammycare are primarily the fault of a RINO laden Congress.  We hold the majority, but the RINO's are still in place and the poor (and I'm being polite) leadership is still in place.

To make a sexist comment against his wife I found uncalled for.  From where I sit, I see that he is trying to take this country in a better direction then it was headed...yet the Trump bashing continues, even if it means degrading his wife.

QFT!
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Suppressed on July 09, 2017, 09:05:19 am
I'm glad someone did.
Yeah.  It's easy to go over the head of those prostrate in worship. I heard the Whoosh as it sailed over.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Silver Pines on July 09, 2017, 01:27:20 pm
Melania is not an elected official, nor a paid public servant.  She simply is married to our president and certain duties have become associated and expected from our First Lady. No.  I certainly do not have her on a pedestal, but she is poised, and has a dignified demeanor about her and is always tastefully dressed for whatever occasion she may accompany the President to.  No, I've never held President Trump on a pedestal, I am a huge Cruz supporter.  There were comments and actions by Trump while campaigning that were completely bombastic and narcissistic and when he became the GOP nominee I was amazed and disappointed.  He became our President.  Most importantly has shown the leadership that our past president clearly lacked.  IMHO he has been bombarded from both sides of the aisle and the MSM with negativity and accusations.  Perhaps you may feel rightfully so, the way I see it, I can't remember a President that has been treated so terribly. When he was voted in, I breathed a huge sigh of relief that Hillary was over.  I decided at that point in time to wipe the slate clean in evaluating him.  His pre-inaugural festivies brought tears to my eyes.  He has appointed a conservative justice as promised.  The hold up on the wall and Bammycare are primarily the fault of a RINO laden Congress.  We hold the majority, but the RINO's are still in place and the poor (and I'm being polite) leadership is still in place.

To make a sexist comment against his wife I found uncalled for.  From where I sit, I see that he is trying to take this country in a better direction then it was headed...yet the Trump bashing continues, even if it means degrading his wife.

@libertybele

With all respect to you, it isn't necessary to defend Trump to me; as I've said before, I'm judging him on a day-to-day basis, based on his performance.  Yes, the GOP sucks, but I'm not about to absolve Trump for a hapless victim.  The buck stops with him.  And to be honest with you, when someone scolds me for not showing the proper respect to a public employee, as if he's dime-store royalty, it makes me inclined to double down.  Human nature being what it is, I think we're susceptible to wanting to elevate our leaders and look up to them, even in a Constitutional republic.  IMO it's how we are.  I'm not doing that, and I'm done getting teary-eyed over politicians.  Cynical? Probably.  Realistic?  Oh, yeah.

As for Melania, you're right, of course---she isn't a public servant, and that was my mistake.  I'll say it again, she's a beautiful woman, but she's not a virginal seventeen year-old snowflake, and treating her like one is silly.  Men are going to make appreciative comments.  I've seen any number of what you would call " sexist" remarks in the FLOTUS fashion thread---some of them from a member who just applauded your post---and you've never uttered a peep.

Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Emjay on July 09, 2017, 04:28:18 pm
@libertybele

With all respect to you, it isn't necessary to defend Trump to me; as I've said before, I'm judging him on a day-to-day basis, based on his performance.  Yes, the GOP sucks, but I'm not about to absolve Trump for a hapless victim.  The buck stops with him.  And to be honest with you, when someone scolds me for not showing the proper respect to a public employee, as if he's dime-store royalty, it makes me inclined to double down.  Human nature being what it is, I think we're susceptible to wanting to elevate our leaders and look up to them, even in a Constitutional republic.  IMO it's how we are.  I'm not doing that, and I'm done getting teary-eyed over politicians.  Cynical? Probably.  Realistic?  Oh, yeah.

As for Melania, you're right, of course---she isn't a public servant, and that was my mistake.  I'll say it again, she's a beautiful woman, but she's not a virginal seventeen year-old snowflake, and treating her like one is silly.  Men are going to make appreciative comments.  I've seen any number of what you would call " sexist" remarks in the FLOTUS fashion thread---some of them from a member who just applauded your post---and you've never uttered a peep.

I didn't know there was a Flotus fashion thread.  I'm tempted but I'm gonna pass.

Congrats on withholding the worship.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 09, 2017, 04:52:23 pm
I didn't know there was a Flotus fashion thread.  I'm tempted but I'm gonna pass.

Congrats on withholding the worship.

Yes, there is such a thread somewhere.  It's just what you would expect, too.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Emjay on July 09, 2017, 04:55:27 pm
Yes, there is such a thread somewhere.  It's just what you would expect, too.

I freely admit I enjoy seeing the pictures of Melania posted on various sites daily but I'm afraid if I went to a Flotus fashion thread I might to start to worship her .... just a little bit.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on July 09, 2017, 05:12:50 pm
I freely admit I enjoy seeing the pictures of Melania posted on various sites daily but I'm afraid if I went to a Flotus fashion thread I might to start to worship her .... just a little bit.

LOL!  FLOTUS looked great .... but she was also a busy lady at the G20 @Emjay

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEPISY9UIAAg9pH.jpg)
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 09, 2017, 05:15:32 pm
I freely admit I enjoy seeing the pictures of Melania posted on various sites daily but I'm afraid if I went to a Flotus fashion thread I might to start to worship her .... just a little bit.

LOL.  No, you wouldn't.  :laugh:
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Emjay on July 09, 2017, 07:04:29 pm
LOL.  No, you wouldn't.  :laugh:

No, I wouldn't.  But I might sink in a serious envy depression.
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 09, 2017, 07:09:46 pm
No, I wouldn't.  But I might sink in a serious envy depression.

Pish posh.  I know you, but I don't know Melania.  I put far more stock in what you have to say.  She wears a dress well, but so what?  That stopped mattering to me before I was 20 (many decades ago).
Title: Re: First lady sent in to end Trump-Putin meeting
Post by: Emjay on July 09, 2017, 08:03:14 pm
Pish posh.  I know you, but I don't know Melania.  I put far more stock in what you have to say.  She wears a dress well, but so what?  That stopped mattering to me before I was 20 (many decades ago).

Me, too.  I was joking.  I haven't had a dress on in a year and over here everyone just wears shorts and flip flops that the natives call 'slippas'  ... It's impossible to tell a rich person from a poor person from their clothes here but you can tell a fat person from a skinny one.  That's about it.