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Title: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 11, 2017, 10:18:16 am
Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
New York Post, Sep 10, 2017

With Florida taking a horrific pounding from Irma so soon after Harvey’s flooding farther west, it’s now plain that President Trump was right to take that deal with Democratic leaders Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi last week.

By agreeing to kick the can on the debt-limit and spending battles three months down the road, Trump avoided having Washington locked in another inside-baseball battle when so many Americans are suffering.

Maybe the president could’ve been nicer to GOP leaders Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan while taking the Dem offer. But the grim truth is that the Republicans’ elaborate strategizing has failed utterly so far this year.

It’s September, and ObamaCare remains unrepealed, unreplaced and unfixed. Any kind of tax reform or tax cut is now dicey, and even funding the government through the end of the next fiscal year is almost certainly going to require another one of those ginormous, swamp-feeding omnibus bills.

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Moving change through Congress may sometimes require risking a public-relations hit, but it’s just crazy to fight such battles in the middle of huge natural disasters. Irma’s devastation is just more proof that Trump was the one seeing clearly here.


More: http://nypost.com/2017/09/10/irmas-wrath-confirms-trumps-wisdom-in-cutting-that-deal-with-democrats/
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DB on September 11, 2017, 10:29:47 am
Right...

This is what Trump supporters have been reduced to... Siding with Pelosi and Schumer... What a shock...
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cripplecreek on September 11, 2017, 11:20:11 am
Right...

This is what Trump supporters have been reduced to... Siding with Pelosi and Schumer... What a shock...

Progressives doing what progressives do.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 11, 2017, 02:23:11 pm
Right...

This is what Trump supporters have been reduced to... Siding with Pelosi and Schumer... What a shock...

And... even while (still) managing to bash conservatives.   
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 11, 2017, 02:23:33 pm
Sorry to interrupt the current and coming knee jerks here ... but this is important:

Quote
Moving change through Congress may sometimes require risking a public-relations hit, but it’s just crazy to fight such battles in the middle of huge natural disasters. Irma’s devastation is just more proof that Trump was the one seeing clearly here.




Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: aligncare on September 11, 2017, 02:37:38 pm
Sorry to interrupt the current and coming knee jerks here ... but this is important:

Quote:
Moving change through Congress may sometimes require risking a public-relations hit, but it’s just crazy to fight such battles in the middle of huge natural disasters. Irma’s devastation is just more proof that Trump was the one seeing clearly here.


Seeing clearly...or, is Trump just covering up secret deals with the democrats for their help in passing Russian-crafted legislation in congress? That's my bet.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Just_Victor on September 11, 2017, 02:39:15 pm
So we're supposed to be OK with playing politics with disaster relief?

Trump supports it so it must be good.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DCPatriot on September 11, 2017, 02:50:46 pm
So we're supposed to be OK with playing politics with disaster relief?

Trump supports it so it must be good.

The irony here is that President Trump, played politics with said relief, so that victims in Red States won't be 'victims' in political games.

Plus, he showing us all how a businessman/leader sets priorities when it comes to natural disasters and the relief to follow.

BTW....find it fascinating that this never even registers to the average Never Trumper.   ...so blinded by the hate, they are.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: jpsb on September 11, 2017, 02:53:22 pm
Seeing clearly...or, is Trump just covering up secret deals with the democrats for their help in passing Russian-crafted legislation in congress? That's my bet.

The question I keep asking is what is so bad about getting the victims of Hurricane Harvey recovery funds?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: jpsb on September 11, 2017, 02:55:47 pm
So we're supposed to be OK with playing politics with disaster relief?

Trump supports it so it must be good.

LOL. Get it right, Mitch and Ryan were the ones playing politics with disaster relief, not Trump he did what he had to to get those funds.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: truth_seeker on September 11, 2017, 03:07:05 pm
And... even while (still) managing to bash conservatives.

1. The so called "conservatives" the measure was aimed at were Ryan and McConnell, most loved by do-nothing fans.

2. Exit polls reveal that 15% of so called conservatives, voted for Hillary.

3. McCain, Romney, Kasich, JebBush and others will assure you they are conservatives.

"Conservative" is a poorly defined word these days. Like it or not.

These days, Trump will state in 144 characters or less, he needed to move fast as the winds and waters were moving fast.

No time for petty politicians to play games, holding public safety hostage.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on September 11, 2017, 03:09:36 pm
Trump's sycophants here will do whatever it takes to support their orange God. When you attack Trump, they feel as if you have attacked them personally.

It's the strangest thing ever.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 11, 2017, 03:16:10 pm
1. The so called "conservatives" the measure was aimed at were Ryan and McConnell, most loved by do-nothing fans.

2. Exit polls reveal that 15% of so called conservatives, voted for Hillary.

3. McCain, Romney, Kasich, JebBush and others will assure you they are conservatives.

"Conservative" is a poorly defined word these days. Like it or not.

These days, Trump will state in 144 characters or less, he needed to move fast as the winds and waters were moving fast.

No time for petty politicians to play games, holding public safety hostage.

Ehh..... I'm speaking of the conservatives that more likely voted for Cruz.... who wouldn't be caught dead voting for Hillary.  In other words, I'm talking about real conservatives, not the ones that pretend not to be leftists ......ie the usual suspect RINOs.

Poorly defined is just an excuse some here use as they bash those of us that DO actually adhere to conservative values, ideology and policies/issues.

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 11, 2017, 03:27:09 pm
Seeing clearly...or, is Trump just covering up secret deals with the democrats for their help in passing Russian-crafted legislation in congress? That's my bet.

 88devil
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: aligncare on September 11, 2017, 03:35:25 pm
Trump's sycophants here will do whatever it takes to support their orange God. When you attack Trump, they feel as if you have attacked them personally.

It's the strangest thing ever.

Pardon me, but weren't you one that reluctantly voted for Trump? If I'm wrong, I'm sorry. Don't mean to insult you by thinking you did.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cripplecreek on September 11, 2017, 03:46:14 pm
Trump's sycophants here will do whatever it takes to support their orange God. When you attack Trump, they feel as if you have attacked them personally.

It's the strangest thing ever.

They do love their daddy.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on September 11, 2017, 03:55:46 pm
Pardon me, but weren't you one that reluctantly voted for Trump? If I'm wrong, I'm sorry. Don't mean to insult you by thinking you did.

Sure, but I don't mindlessly defend every little thing he does, unlike some people here.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Night Hides Not on September 11, 2017, 04:19:29 pm
Sure, but I don't mindlessly defend every little thing he does, unlike some people here.

Thank you!!!

Fawning praise for every action is tedious.

I know Trumpsters will disagree, but Trump has been praised for a number of his actions, most notably Justice Gorsuch.

Tapping the breaks on knee jerk reactions to criticism of Trump would go a long ways toward d broadening the base, which Trump will need in 2020.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: INVAR on September 11, 2017, 04:19:36 pm
The question I keep asking is what is so bad about getting the victims of Hurricane Harvey recovery funds?

Where is the CLEAN BILL of JUST recovery funds that we taxpayers will have to front in ever-increasing amounts?

Where is it?

Where is JUST the bill for disaster relief and not the pork-laden horseshit behemoth of a spending increase Trumpian imbeciles are championing as Solomon-esque wisdom their Dear Leader has done?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: INVAR on September 11, 2017, 04:22:38 pm
Ehh..... I'm speaking of the conservatives that more likely voted for Cruz.... who wouldn't be caught dead voting for Hillary.  In other words, I'm talking about real conservatives, not the ones that pretend not to be leftists ......ie the usual suspect RINOs.

Poorly defined is just an excuse some here use as they bash those of us that DO actually adhere to conservative values, ideology and policies/issues.

Come on dear, you know the truth of their mindset as well as I do:  if you did not vote for Trump - and you do not cheer, salute and support him now and every single thing he does and says, then you are a Hillary supporter and NOT a Conservative.  We were told that ad-infinitum.

It's the same bullshit one gets from those who insist that if you do not support the pope - you are not a Christian at all.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Emjay on September 11, 2017, 04:26:42 pm
Right...

This is what Trump supporters have been reduced to... Siding with Pelosi and Schumer... What a shock...

That's a ridiculous statement.  It was not the time to put part of our country in danger by more endless haggeling.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Suppressed on September 11, 2017, 04:40:45 pm
The question I keep asking is what is so bad about getting the victims of Hurricane Harvey recovery funds?

I want to write something, but I don't want it to be distorted nor taken the wrong way, @jpsb.

The question you ask is exactly how liberals push their agenda.  "What is so wrong with [result]?" --
 where the result is provided sans consequencesor other conditions -- leads people to have to answer "nothing" or look like they are heartless.   "What's wrong with feeding everyone?"  "What's wrong with healthcare for everyone?"  etc.  It makes it look like Socialism is GRAND!

The thing is, nothing's wrong with the results...but the key is that they're asking the wrong question.  Feeding everyone's fine, but that's not the issue.  Healthcare for everyone is fine, but that's not the issue.

And "getting the victims of Hurricane Harvey recovery funds" is fine....

....but that's not the issue!

And conservatives realize that, so that's why conservatives aren't answering your red herring.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 11, 2017, 05:02:12 pm
LOL. Get it right, Mitch and Ryan were the ones playing politics with disaster relief, not Trump he did what he had to to get those funds.

This is the exact reason why I suspended my normal revulsion at dealing with the Democrats in this one instance.  It was obvious to me and just about everybody else Ryan and Chinless were going to take a stab at wringing something out of somebody to get the Hurricane relief bill, and that would have gone poorly for them and the GOP whether they realized it or not.  The GOP "leadership" in Congress have developed tin ears WRT the voters' opinion of them.

In effect, Trump saved Ryan and McConnell from themselves.  And I say this not as an Ever Trump nor a Never Trump.  I'm not in a camp, I'm just wanting to see the right things happen.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 11, 2017, 05:07:04 pm
Thank God the Wise and Powerful Trump extended the debt limit for 3 months.  Just thank God.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Night Hides Not on September 11, 2017, 05:14:02 pm
Come on dear, you know the truth of their mindset as well as I do:  if you did not vote for Trump - and you do not cheer, salute and support him now and every single thing he does and says, then you are a Hillary supporter and NOT a Conservative.  We were told that ad-infinitum.

It's the same bullshit one gets from those who insist that if you do not support the pope - you are not a Christian at all.

Damn Invar, you're casting me as a heretic! Lol

I love the Jesuits, though I disagree with the current Pope most of the time. He's doing his best  to go down in history as the first, and last, Jesuit pope.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 11, 2017, 05:16:05 pm
Thank God the Wise and Powerful Trump extended the debt limit for 3 months.  Just thank God.

The GOP congressional leadership wanted 18 months.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Night Hides Not on September 11, 2017, 05:29:53 pm
The GOP congressional leadership wanted 18 months.

As did Trump's Treasury Secretary.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 11, 2017, 05:33:07 pm
The GOP congressional leadership wanted 18 months.

Yep.

How would a line item veto work on something like that?  Anyone know?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: INVAR on September 11, 2017, 05:38:24 pm
Yep.

How would a line item veto work on something like that?  Anyone know?

No such thing anymore.

The GOP congressional leadership wanted 18 months.

Yes, because each and every one of us can call our credit card company and get an 18th month extension on having our over-the-line credit limit raised to whatever we feel like spending.

I'm beginning to think the Democrats can't hold a candle to the insane Big Government Socialism and irresponsible malfeasance the Republican party is demonstrating.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 11, 2017, 05:41:06 pm
No such thing anymore.



Ok, thanks, wasn't aware of that.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 11, 2017, 06:03:37 pm
Delayed reaction..... LMAO! 

(sorry)

I just find it funny when emotions are attributed to something like a hurricane (ie Irma's "wrath").  Like a female forecaster that recently claimed of Irma... that hurricanes don't "like" going over land....they prefer water......lolol.

To liberals, everything is emotion-based, after all. 
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Just_Victor on September 11, 2017, 06:08:29 pm
The irony here is that President Trump, played politics with said relief, so that victims in Red States won't be 'victims' in political games.

Plus, he showing us all how a businessman/leader sets priorities when it comes to natural disasters and the relief to follow.

BTW....find it fascinating that this never even registers to the average Never Trumper.   ...so blinded by the hate, they are.

I live in Friendswood and my parents, about a mile away, had 18" of flood water.  I/ we don't need an increase in the debt ceiling.  We need FEMA authorization.  Even at a few billion $, the debt increase is pure politics, with no regard for flood victims
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 11, 2017, 06:09:53 pm
Come on dear, you know the truth of their mindset as well as I do:  if you did not vote for Trump - and you do not cheer, salute and support him now and every single thing he does and says, then you are a Hillary supporter and NOT a Conservative.  We were told that ad-infinitum.

It's the same bullshit one gets from those who insist that if you do not support the pope - you are not a Christian at all.

Their mindset has been to demonize real conservatives here AND  to demonize and bashTed Cruz, whom we real conservatives all supported in the primary.   I definitely am a 'real conservative' but I guess I'm not really a 'real Christian'.... since I am becoming convinced that this pope is the False Prophet spoken of in Revelations.  He fits the description more and more every day.  I'm just wondering who and where his b-buddy, the Anti-Christ, is right about now.  Don't see anyone that charismatic...yet.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: INVAR on September 11, 2017, 06:18:02 pm
Their mindset has been to demonize real conservatives here AND  to demonize and bashTed Cruz, whom we real conservatives all supported in the primary.   I definitely am a 'real conservative' but I guess I'm not really a 'real Christian'.... since I am becoming convinced that this pope is the False Prophet spoken of in Revelations.  He fits the description more and more every day.  I'm just wondering who and where his b-buddy, the Anti-Christ, is right about now.  Don't see anyone that charismatic...yet.

Just remember and recall, that they will have the power to deceive the very Elect if God permits it. Given how easily Christians fell into supporting homosexuality and homosexual marriage, it would be a fool indeed to assume they are immune from being deceived.

Then again, look at all the worship of a politician we have seen illustrated from those supposedly 'on our side'.  Some of it puts the acolytes of Obama to shame.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Free Vulcan on September 11, 2017, 06:21:08 pm
I understand the tactical reasons for doing it, but it is risky and not something that can be done as a long term strategy.

Fortunately there was not much at play here. Hurricane aid is a no-brainer, and the debt ceiling is an irrelevant kabuki theater whether extended three months or three years. So while the Dems think they really got something they really didn't.

I agree with article on the GOP's 'elaborate strategizing'. It's like they want to nibble at the edges, slow moving tiny steps, and play small ball jenga in hopes that some day, some way, they are going sneak up on the Dems and bring them down, like the 'sequester' deal.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on September 11, 2017, 06:22:43 pm
I live in Friendswood and my parents, about a mile away, had 18" of flood water.  I/ we don't need an increase in the debt ceiling.  We need FEMA authorization.  Even at a few billion $, the debt increase is pure politics, with no regard for flood victims
glad you and parents aRe safe.  My wife's brother lives there too and registered 46" at his house
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: GrouchoTex on September 11, 2017, 06:25:20 pm
I live in Friendswood and my parents, about a mile away, had 18" of flood water.  I/ we don't need an increase in the debt ceiling.  We need FEMA authorization.  Even at a few billion $, the debt increase is pure politics, with no regard for flood victims

I live in Sugar Land, work in Katy.
The last numbers I had heard was that FEMA had over 500K request and had processed 180K of them, so far.
That was about a week ago.
Have you heard any update?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: truth_seeker on September 11, 2017, 06:33:56 pm
I live in Friendswood and my parents, about a mile away, had 18" of flood water.  I/ we don't need an increase in the debt ceiling.  We need FEMA authorization.  Even at a few billion $, the debt increase is pure politics, with no regard for flood victims
You sound like one of the few here that can focus on meaningful actions, versus never ending talk.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: INVAR on September 11, 2017, 06:48:59 pm
You sound like one of the few here that can focus on meaningful actions, versus never ending talk.

Most of that 'talk' consisting of glories, lauds and honor for Trump working with Pelosi and Schumer to raise that debt ceiling that was rightfully noted by Victor to be nothing but politics with no regard for actual disaster victims.  That 'never-ending talk' continues to this very moment.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: jpsb on September 11, 2017, 06:49:30 pm
I live in Friendswood and my parents, about a mile away, had 18" of flood water.  I/ we don't need an increase in the debt ceiling.  We need FEMA authorization.  Even at a few billion $, the debt increase is pure politics, with no regard for flood victims

Prior to Trump securing funds for FEMA, FEMA was broke and unable to help anyone including your parents. Trump got the few billions FEMA needed.

Without the debt increase gov would have been forced to shutdown and might have defaulted on our debt. Now I really don't care if the worthless bureaucrats lose a few days of work but defaulting on the debt would be bad. And IIRC gov shutdown never goes well for Republicans.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: INVAR on September 11, 2017, 06:54:29 pm
Prior to Trump securing funds for FEMA, FEMA was broke and unable to help anyone including your parents. Trump got the few billions FEMA needed.

By that reckoning why didn't Trump just side with the GOP version and raise the debt ceiling for 18 months and give Congress a blank check to spend it on whatever their hearts and constituencies demand?  I mean, we might as well just get rid of that 'debt ceiling' obstacle altogether now, and just spend, spend, spend on everything all at once as opposed to actually creating a clean disaster relief bill that the rest of us already-stretched-to-the-limit taxpayers will have foot by doing without to bail out yet more dependents on Big Federal Mama.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 11, 2017, 06:55:28 pm
Most of that 'talk' consisting of glories, lauds and honor for Trump working with Pelosi and Schumer to raise that debt ceiling that was rightfully noted by Victor to be nothing but politics with no regard for actual disaster victims.  That 'never-ending talk' continues to this very moment.

Hey, it was only for 3 more moths.  What's the big deal?  Showed those dumb Republicans that wanted 18 months.  We can't let the perfect get in the way of the good.  3 months.  Be happy.  All is well citizen.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: INVAR on September 11, 2017, 06:57:12 pm
We can't let the perfect get in the way of the good.  3 months.  Be happy.  All is well citizen Comrade.

There, fixed it.

Now it is more accurate.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 11, 2017, 06:57:41 pm
PS. FEMA operating budget for 2017 is $17,000,000,000.  That's 17 Billion, with a B.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: jpsb on September 11, 2017, 07:00:38 pm
Their mindset has been to demonize real conservatives here AND  to demonize and bashTed Cruz, whom we real conservatives all supported in the primary.   I definitely am a 'real conservative' but I guess I'm not really a 'real Christian'.... since I am becoming convinced that this pope is the False Prophet spoken of in Revelations.  He fits the description more and more every day.  I'm just wondering who and where his b-buddy, the Anti-Christ, is right about now.  Don't see anyone that charismatic...yet.

I don't consider Cruz a real conservative he was for amnesty, he wanted vast increases in visas, he was for fast tracking TPP. He lied repeatedly on the campaign trail. Plus he knows he is ineligible to be POTUS since he is a natural born citizen of Canada not the USA.

Cruz does do a good job of fooling folks into thinking he is the only true conservative, LOL. I will give him that but he has not fooled me. I have watched him closely these last 4 years and I've concluded he is a phony. Still better than a rat so I will vote for him in 2018 if he is on the ballot.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 11, 2017, 07:03:09 pm
I don't consider Cruz a real conservative he was for amnesty, he wanted vast increases in visas, he was for fast tracking TPP. He lied repeatedly on the campaign trail. Plus he knows he is ineligible to be POTUS since he is a natural born citizen of Canada not the USA.

Cruz does do a good job of fooling folks into thinking he is the only true conservative, LOL. I will give him that but he has not fooled me. I have watched him closely these last 4 years and I've concluded he is a phony. Still better than a rat so I will vote for him in 2018 if he is on the ballot.

Great.  You'll vote for him.  Now we can get past all the Cruz isn't a NBC bullshit that got a different thread locked last night.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: jpsb on September 11, 2017, 07:06:54 pm
PS. FEMA operating budget for 2017 is $17,000,000,000.  That's 17 Billion, with a B.

But it did not have that 17 billion until Trump secured it by granting a 3 month extension to the debt ceiling.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 11, 2017, 07:08:41 pm
Great.  You'll vote for him.  Now we can get past all the Cruz isn't a NBC bullshit that got a different thread locked last night.

From what I understood the Mod to say last night, he/she doesn't intend to just lock a thread if this hijack starts up again....
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 11, 2017, 07:10:02 pm
From what I understood the Mod to say last night, he/she doesn't intend to just lock a thread if this hijack starts up again....
Oh oh, you're right!  Threatened a time out!  Awesome, keep the Cruz NBC nonsense up!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: jpsb on September 11, 2017, 07:12:12 pm
Great.  You'll vote for him.  Now we can get past all the Cruz isn't a NBC bullshit that got a different thread locked last night.

I did not bring Cruz into this conservation. It appears that in any thread about Trump some sore loser bring up Cruz. Very tiresome.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 11, 2017, 07:13:46 pm
I did not bring Cruz into this conservation. It appears that in any thread about Trump some sore loser bring up Cruz. Very tiresome.

I'm sure the mods will accept that excuse. :)
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cripplecreek on September 11, 2017, 07:14:12 pm
From what I understood the Mod to say last night, he/she doesn't intend to just lock a thread if this hijack starts up again....

I remember when JimKnob threatened to ban Cruz birthers from TOS.

It would have been one of the wisest things he could have done. Unfortunately he failed.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: jpsb on September 11, 2017, 07:17:42 pm
From what I understood the Mod to say last night, he/she doesn't intend to just lock a thread if this hijack starts up again....

Yup you NeverTrumpers can bring Cruz up whenever you want, as often as you want and everything is fine. But if a Trump supporter happens to point out Cruzs' considerable pimples all hell break lose. Fine this is after all your "safe place".
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: jpsb on September 11, 2017, 07:21:05 pm
By that reckoning why didn't Trump just side with the GOP version and raise the debt ceiling for 18 months and give Congress a blank check to spend it on whatever their hearts and constituencies demand?  I mean, we might as well just get rid of that 'debt ceiling' obstacle altogether now, and just spend, spend, spend on everything all at once as opposed to actually creating a clean disaster relief bill that the rest of us already-stretched-to-the-limit taxpayers will have foot by doing without to bail out yet more dependents on Big Federal Mama.

Trump wants congress to do it job and part of that job is putting together a budget. He just gave them three months to show they are capable of doing their job.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 11, 2017, 07:21:21 pm
Yup you NeverTrumpers can bring Cruz up whenever you want, as often as you want and everything is fine. But if a Trump supporter happens to point out Cruzs' considerable pimples all hell break lose. Fine this is after all your "safe place".

Are you daft?  They don't want us going off topic.  You also shouldn't talk about your Poodle in this thread.  How about just talking about Irma/Trump's wisdom/Democrats?

Unless it is your goal, like many of us NTs suspect, to get threads like this locked.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 11, 2017, 07:27:06 pm
Yup you NeverTrumpers can bring Cruz up whenever you want, as often as you want and everything is fine. But if a Trump supporter happens to point out Cruzs' considerable pimples all hell break lose. Fine this is after all your "safe place".

I am no "Never Trumper." 

So what do you think, did Trump do a smart thing here in cutting a deal with the Dems over FEMA and the debt ceiling or not?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: jpsb on September 11, 2017, 07:27:15 pm
Are you daft?  They don't want us going off topic.  You also shouldn't talk about your Poodle in this thread.  How about just talking about Irma/Trump's wisdom/Democrats?

Unless it is your goal, like many of us NTs suspect, to get threads like this locked.

Why would I want to get this thread locked? The article is very positive towards Trump and no one has submited anything of substance to detract from the fact that Trump got FEMA the money FEMA needs to deal with Harvey and Irma. It was not me that got "off topic" I just responded to the "real conservative" BS I read all the time.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Mod1 on September 11, 2017, 07:30:11 pm
Yup you NeverTrumpers can bring Cruz up whenever you want, as often as you want and everything is fine. But if a Trump supporter happens to point out Cruzs' considerable pimples all hell break lose. Fine this is after all your "safe place".

This is your last warning on thread hijacks.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Emjay on September 11, 2017, 07:31:31 pm
Their mindset has been to demonize real conservatives here AND  to demonize and bashTed Cruz, whom we real conservatives all supported in the primary.   I definitely am a 'real conservative' but I guess I'm not really a 'real Christian'.... since I am becoming convinced that this pope is the False Prophet spoken of in Revelations.  He fits the description more and more every day.  I'm just wondering who and where his b-buddy, the Anti-Christ, is right about now.  Don't see anyone that charismatic...yet.

Did the Pope say something hurricane related?  I must have missed it.  I can't stand this false Pope.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Emjay on September 11, 2017, 07:33:51 pm
I don't consider Cruz a real conservative he was for amnesty, he wanted vast increases in visas, he was for fast tracking TPP. He lied repeatedly on the campaign trail. Plus he knows he is ineligible to be POTUS since he is a natural born citizen of Canada not the USA.

Cruz does do a good job of fooling folks into thinking he is the only true conservative, LOL. I will give him that but he has not fooled me. I have watched him closely these last 4 years and I've concluded he is a phony. Still better than a rat so I will vote for him in 2018 if he is on the ballot.

Thank goodness someone is watching Cruz ... he might be planning another assassination.  You know the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: INVAR on September 11, 2017, 07:34:31 pm
Trump wants congress to do it job and part of that job is putting together a budget. He just gave them three months to show they are capable of doing their job.

Oh that's clever.... to suggest Trump made a deal with Pelosi and Schumer's agenda to give the Republicans time to get their act together is priceless!  Pure bovine scatology pap, but clever!

I don't fall for it.

Like every other typical liberal, self-identifying "Conservatives" now also believe money grows on trees, just like your average Leftist.  They think Congress should appropriate whatever it can or the Executive should just make deals with whomever he can to print more money out of thin air to hand out to whomever the government has decreed are the beneficiaries of everyone else's hard-earned money.

Then go on camera and try to shame everyone opposed to what was done because it's "for disaster relief' and "we cannot play around with disaster aid" - ignoring the fact FEMA exists with an annual budget to handle and deal with disasters on a major scope already.

And if, disasters dwarf the existing 17 billions - a clean bill for relief should be drafted, passed and signed.

But no.  DeeCee has to skim their cut of whatever funds there are for themselves first.  Get rich off of a disaster because more funds are needed.

Trump got FEMA the money FEMA needs to deal with Harvey and Irma.

FEMA already has an annual budget to the tune of billions.  The debt ceiling and all the bloated trillions to extend government's open-ended credit card has nothing to do with disaster relief.

But you knew that already.

This is just about making Trump out to be the Beneficial Dear Leader that can weed whack Congress that you want to make him out to be.

Trump is just filling the swamp with more stagnant water and money wrung from our pockets while calling it disaster relief.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: mystery-ak on September 11, 2017, 07:37:21 pm
Thank goodness someone is watching Cruz ... he might be planning another assassination.  You know the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

I know you must have forgot to post your sarcasm tag..../s...

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: jpsb on September 11, 2017, 07:38:40 pm
Are you daft?  They don't want us going off topic.  You also shouldn't talk about your Poodle in this thread.  How about just talking about Irma/Trump's wisdom/Democrats?

Unless it is your goal, like many of us NTs suspect, to get threads like this locked.

I have been posting on the internet since 1984ish. First on usenet news, later on Free Republic and now here, twitter and a few other sites. I really do not understand the "value" of staying "on topic". Threads take on a life of their own, that is one of the things that makes it fun to read them and post in them. The little seqways (sp) are sometimes very informative and sometimes down right stupid. But usually interesting. Rigidly enforcing a "Stay on Topic" rule to shutdown unpopular views is IMHO not a good idea.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 11, 2017, 07:41:01 pm
I have been posting on the internet since 1984ish. First on usenet news, later on Free Republic and now here, twitter and a few other sites. I really do not understand the "value" of staying "on topic". Threads take on a life of their own, that is one of the things that makes it fun to read them and post in them. The little seqways (sp) are sometimes very informative and sometimes down right stupid. But usually interesting. Rigidly enforcing a "Stay on Topic" rule to shutdown unpopular views is IMHO not a good idea.

Well, I for one, hate a thread going down the drain of *another* BS session about Cruz's NBC status.  Taking the scenic route here and there is one thing.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Bigun on September 11, 2017, 07:42:32 pm
Thank you!!!

Fawning praise for every action is tedious.

I know Trumpsters will disagree, but Trump has been praised for a number of his actions, most notably Justice Gorsuch.

Tapping the breaks on knee jerk reactions to criticism of Trump would go a long ways toward d broadening the base, which Trump will need in 2020.

@Night Hides Not

Post of the day!  Maybe the month!   888high58888

It's tedious to the point that it is driving good people away from this site! 
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: txradioguy on September 11, 2017, 07:42:35 pm
Trump wants congress to do it job and part of that job is putting together a budget. He just gave them three months to show they are capable of doing their job.

So his way of getting them to do that is becoming best friends with the Liberals?

Bull (blank).  That's not leadership.  That's a distinct and purposeful lurch to the left.

And how many more years of 3 month CR's are we going to have to endure?  We've already dealt with 8 years of no budgets and basically a slush fund in place of a real fiscally responsible budget.

If you think that Congress is honestly going to get it's act together in three months on it's own?  I've got some ocean front property in West Texas I'd like to sell you.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Mod1 on September 11, 2017, 07:46:25 pm
I have been posting on the internet since 1984ish. First on usenet news, later on Free Republic and now here, twitter and a few other sites. I really do not understand the "value" of staying "on topic". Threads take on a life of their own, that is one of the things that makes it fun to read them and post in them. The little seqways (sp) are sometimes very informative and sometimes down right stupid. But usually interesting. Rigidly enforcing a "Stay on Topic" rule to shutdown unpopular views is IMHO not a good idea.

There is no rigid enforcement of a "Stay on Topic" rule here, as I'm sure you well know.  There is a "do not troll and intentionally disrupt threads" rule here. 
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Emjay on September 11, 2017, 07:47:43 pm
I know you must have forgot to post your sarcasm tag..../s...

Surely no one here is dumb enough not to recognize such blatant sarcasm ...

On the other hand /s
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Emjay on September 11, 2017, 07:49:09 pm
There is no rigid enforcement of a "Stay on Topic" rule here, as I'm sure you well know.  There is a "do not troll and intentionally disrupt threads" rule here.

There are some really annoying people here who WILL NOT shut up.

On the other hand, I don't want this to be an echo chamber.

Good luck on your job ... I wouldn't want it.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: aligncare on September 11, 2017, 07:50:20 pm
So are the outbreaks of cookie recipes and pet pictures scattered throughout all categories considered thread jacking, or just those posts about ted cruz? I'd appreciate some clarity.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: mystery-ak on September 11, 2017, 07:51:00 pm
Surely no one here is dumb enough not to recognize such blatant sarcasm ...

On the other hand /s

 :whistle:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: jpsb on September 11, 2017, 07:51:19 pm
I remember when JimKnob threatened to ban Cruz birthers from TOS.

It would have been one of the wisest things he could have done. Unfortunately he failed.
JR has pretty much ruined FR by banning silencing any and all that disagree with him. I've been there since 1999 and I've seen him run off a lot of talent. It wouldn't be so bad if his views stayed consistent but with JR you just never know what group is on the outs today. The in crowd over there just loves to zot, it is a game for them.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 11, 2017, 07:53:10 pm
So do the outbreaks of cookie recipes and pet pictures scattered throughout all categories considered thread jacking, or just those posts about ted cruz? I'd appreciate some clarity.

I have a hypothetical; if I called you a pu$$y, would it be considered a personal insult or just a comment on your avatar? 
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: aligncare on September 11, 2017, 07:54:26 pm
There is no rigid enforcement of a "Stay on Topic" rule here, as I'm sure you well know.  There is a "do not troll and intentionally disrupt threads" rule here.

Okay, I see the point.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: GtHawk on September 11, 2017, 07:58:45 pm
Okay, I see the point.
Because you can be rational, and please take that as the compliment it was meant. I believe that the majority here despite some occasional heated disagreements, we are only human after all, settle into a rational discourse with just a modicum of sniping.
@aligncare
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: jpsb on September 11, 2017, 08:05:17 pm
So are the outbreaks of cookie recipes and pet pictures scattered throughout all categories considered thread jacking, or just those posts about ted cruz? I'd appreciate some clarity.

@aligncare

I occasionally go over to weather underground and take on the global warming wackos. I mostly do that in the winter since WU is a excellent source for info on tropical systems and I would not want cause havoc and chaos at a time when folks needs good info. 

I personally do not feel AGW is all that bad and very much over blown by the zealots. I present good info, from reliable sources in a polite manner.

I usually get banned (a timeout) within 15 to 20 minutes and all my posts are deleted. Some people just really do not want to hear an opposing view.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Emjay on September 11, 2017, 08:06:09 pm
JR has pretty much ruined FR by banning silencing any and all that disagree with him. I've been there since 1999 and I've seen him run off a lot of talent. It wouldn't be so bad if his views stayed consistent but with JR you just never know what group is on the outs today. The in crowd over there just loves to zot, it is a game for them.

The class of '99 contained some really smart people including me.  Most are gone.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: aligncare on September 11, 2017, 08:10:55 pm
Because you can be rational, and please take that as the compliment it was meant. I believe that the majority here despite some occasional heated disagreements, we are only human after all, settle into a rational discourse with just a modicum of sniping.
@aligncare

I generally stay away from discussing Cruz, I have no interest to and the subject always triggers endless arguments.

I do appreciate good manners on internet discussions. They seem to be rarer these days. In the past, by the time a president is nine months into his administration, intraparty bickering has usually ended. Not this time.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: jpsb on September 11, 2017, 08:12:49 pm
The class of '99 contained some really smart people including me.  Most are gone.

I have greatly reduced my presence, might do a short post two or three times a week. Twitter is fun, but 144 characters makes it a challenge.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Bigun on September 11, 2017, 08:16:11 pm
I have greatly reduced my presence, might do a short post two or three times a week. Twitter is fun, but 144 characters makes it a challenge.

Let me register my OPINION on that!  Anyone still swimming in that cesspool at all is HIGHLY suspect!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 11, 2017, 08:24:51 pm
So are the outbreaks of cookie recipes and pet pictures scattered throughout all categories considered thread jacking, or just those posts about ted cruz? I'd appreciate some clarity.

I was disappointed no actual cookie recipes were posted.   :whistle:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Mod1 on September 11, 2017, 08:28:21 pm
(http://images.media-allrecipes.com/userphotos/250x250/00/04/66/46624.jpg)
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 11, 2017, 08:31:59 pm
(http://images.media-allrecipes.com/userphotos/250x250/00/04/66/46624.jpg)

Mmmm! Toll House, my favorite.  It's really good with Peanut Butter batter!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Emjay on September 11, 2017, 08:33:34 pm
Let me register my OPINION on that!  Anyone still swimming in that cesspool at all is HIGHLY suspect!

I go over there occasionally just to see what the tenor is.  And I sometimes read the Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread.

I can post but I don't.  And I always wear a wet suit, just in case.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 11, 2017, 08:35:13 pm
Mmmm! Toll House, my favorite.  It's really good with Peanut Butter batter!

I like choco chip cookies, but I also like the Toll House choco chip cookie recipe with pecans added and the choco chips left out.   :shrug:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 11, 2017, 08:38:31 pm
I like choco chip cookies, but I also like the Toll House choco chip cookie recipe with pecans added and the choco chips left out.   :shrug:

Watch it, yer Suthenn is showin' through...
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: jpsb on September 11, 2017, 08:40:05 pm
I go over there occasionally just to see what the tenor is.  And I sometimes read the Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread.

I can post but I don't.  And I always wear a wet suit, just in case.

@Emjay

I believe @Bigun was talking about Twitter. He is right to a certain extent, there are some pretty disgusting people on twitter. But I come from usenet news so I have seen EVERYTHING.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 11, 2017, 08:41:30 pm
@Emjay

I believe @Bigun was talking about Twitter. He is right to a certain extent, there are some pretty disgusting people on twitter. But I come from usenet news so I have seen EVERYTHING.

If you ever feel the need to get REALLY soiled, 4chan is the place to be.  Not that I'd know or anything... :whistle:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Bigun on September 11, 2017, 08:43:08 pm
@Emjay

I believe @Bigun was talking about Twitter. He is right to a certain extent, there are some pretty disgusting people on twitter. But I come from usenet news so I have seen EVERYTHING.

Actually bigun was talking about both but didn't use the plurals so your confusion is my fault!  :smokin:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 11, 2017, 08:44:20 pm
I go over there occasionally just to see what the tenor is.  And I sometimes read the Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread.

I can post but I don't.  And I always wear a wet suit, just in case.

I keep a tab open in Latest Articles, because it's a pretty good aggregator of news stories from varied sources.  I rarely look at the threads themselves (I click the source links), but never, ever post unless it's something really special, like saying Farewell to JRandomFreeper....
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 11, 2017, 08:45:16 pm
Watch it, yer Suthenn is showin' through...

Was it my pronunciation of "pecan"? ;)
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 11, 2017, 08:48:47 pm
Was it my pronunciation of "pecan"? ;)

LMAO!!!   Texan pronunciation would be Peecan.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 11, 2017, 08:49:38 pm
I keep a tab open in Latest Articles, because it's a pretty good aggregator of news stories from varied sources.  I rarely look at the threads themselves (I click the source links), but never, ever post unless it's something really special, like saying Farewell to JRandomFreeper....

I do the same thing.  Great minds and all that.... :beer:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: txradioguy on September 11, 2017, 08:49:45 pm
I go over there occasionally just to see what the tenor is.  And I sometimes read the Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread.

I can post but I don't.  And I always wear a wet suit, just in case.

The Sunday Morning talk show thread was always one of my favorites to post on.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 11, 2017, 08:50:16 pm
pi-can (short I sound)
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Bigun on September 11, 2017, 08:52:00 pm
pi-can (short I sound)

Yessum! 

Exactly right!  A PEE CAN is a thing that people used to keep under their beds at night!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 11, 2017, 08:58:05 pm
pi-CAHN?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 11, 2017, 08:58:38 pm
Sorry to interrupt the current and coming knee jerks here ... but this is important:

How utterly absurd, @Right_in_Virginia
There is no 'seeing clearly' in this. It's a deal with the devil... And that never works out. Unless you're another devil.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 11, 2017, 09:02:40 pm
The irony here is that President Trump, played politics with said relief, so that victims in Red States won't be 'victims' in political games.


Astonishing discontinuity in that statement.

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Plus, he showing us all how a businessman/leader sets priorities when it comes to natural disasters and the relief to follow.

You mean 'utter irresponsibility' there, right?

So much is lost in translation in trumpsplaining.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Bigun on September 11, 2017, 09:03:30 pm
pi-CAHN?

Close enough!   ^-^
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DB on September 11, 2017, 09:05:24 pm
How utterly absurd, @Right_in_Virginia
There is no 'seeing clearly' in this. It's a deal with the devil... And that never works out. Unless you're another devil.

His supporters made a deal with the devil to begin with. In for a penny in for a pound... Once your "in" it becomes easy.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 11, 2017, 09:06:40 pm
The question I keep asking is what is so bad about getting the victims of Hurricane Harvey recovery funds?

There isn't a single person in either house that wouldn't have voted through a clean bill with a roll call - And Irma waiting in the wings. Nobody needs those optics.

Playing politics with it, at least the politics should be going in the right direction.
What will we now have to do to cover Irma... with Jose in the wings.
Watch and see.
Now that relief funds can be held hostage, they will be.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DB on September 11, 2017, 09:10:15 pm
There isn't a single person in either house that wouldn't have voted through a clean bill with a roll call - And Irma waiting in the wings. Nobody needs those optics.

Playing politics with it, at least the politics should be going in the right direction.
What will we now have to do to cover Irma... with Jose in the wings.
Watch and see.
Now that relief funds can be held hostage, they will be.

A common theme with Trump supporters is the ends justify the means. Winning is more important than how you do it, who you destroy. The left has been doing this for a long long time. The divide is vanishing...
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: jpsb on September 11, 2017, 09:10:54 pm
There isn't a single person in either house that wouldn't have voted through a clean bill with a roll call - And Irma waiting in the wings. Nobody needs those optics.

Playing politics with it, at least the politics should be going in the right direction.
What will we now have to do to cover Irma... with Jose in the wings.
Watch and see.
Now that relief funds can be held hostage, they will be.

You are absolutely crazy. If all members of Congress wanted a clean bill there would have been a clean bill! Jezz!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 11, 2017, 09:11:10 pm
I have greatly reduced my presence, might do a short post two or three times a week. Twitter is fun, but 144 characters makes it a challenge.
144 characters? Politics by haiku. Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 11, 2017, 09:11:47 pm
3. McCain, Romney, Kasich, JebBush and others will assure you they are conservatives.

"Conservative" is a poorly defined word these days. Like it or not.

So will most trump supporters, when they are not either...
The definition for Conservative remains the same. Those standing upon the bedrock truth of Conservative principles are indeed the only ones who can claim Conservatism. Conservatism IS as Conservatism DOES.

Quote
These days, Trump will state in 144 characters or less, he needed to move fast as the winds and waters were moving fast.
No time for petty politicians to play games, holding public safety hostage.

Unmitigated bovine excrement.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 11, 2017, 09:13:14 pm
Yessum! 

Exactly right!  A PEE CAN is a thing that people used to keep under their beds at night!

Watch it, Bigun.  We Texans take our pronunciation seriously, ya know!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 11, 2017, 09:14:27 pm
LMAO!!!   Texan pronunciation would be Peecan.
As opposed to peh-kahn?

You say to may toe, I say to maah toe,.. (I say peecan too). 
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 11, 2017, 09:15:21 pm
Yessum! 

Exactly right!  A PEE CAN is a thing that people used to keep under their beds at night!
Nuh-uh, that's a thundermug!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 11, 2017, 09:16:05 pm
I want to write something, but I don't want it to be distorted nor taken the wrong way, @jpsb.

The question you ask is exactly how liberals push their agenda.  "What is so wrong with [result]?" --
 where the result is provided sans consequencesor other conditions -- leads people to have to answer "nothing" or look like they are heartless.   "What's wrong with feeding everyone?"  "What's wrong with healthcare for everyone?"  etc.  It makes it look like Socialism is GRAND!

The thing is, nothing's wrong with the results...but the key is that they're asking the wrong question.  Feeding everyone's fine, but that's not the issue.  Healthcare for everyone is fine, but that's not the issue.

And "getting the victims of Hurricane Harvey recovery funds" is fine....

....but that's not the issue!

And conservatives realize that, so that's why conservatives aren't answering your red herring.

This is brilliant.
QFT
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 11, 2017, 09:18:10 pm
There isn't a single person in either house that wouldn't have voted through a clean bill with a roll call - And Irma waiting in the wings. Nobody needs those optics.

Playing politics with it, at least the politics should be going in the right direction.
What will we now have to do to cover Irma... with Jose in the wings.
Watch and see.
Now that relief funds can be held hostage, they will be.

Exactly. He has established precedent.
Any time the Dems want something, all they have to do is hold some essential piece of business hostage and point fingers at the GOP.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 11, 2017, 09:18:57 pm
As opposed to peh-kahn?

You say to may toe, I say to maah toe,.. (I say peecan too).

We also say I-Ran.....vs. Iran.  I-ran, you ran, he/she/it ran.....

but I digress.

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 11, 2017, 09:19:11 pm
I can't really say what I think anymore anyways, it seems.  Some days I like what he does, other days I can barely stand it, so by the end of the week I have everybody mad at me because they think I've gone to "the other side"... :shrug:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 11, 2017, 09:20:57 pm
I want to write something, but I don't want it to be distorted nor taken the wrong way, @jpsb.

The question you ask is exactly how liberals push their agenda.  "What is so wrong with [result]?" --
 where the result is provided sans consequencesor other conditions -- leads people to have to answer "nothing" or look like they are heartless.   "What's wrong with feeding everyone?"  "What's wrong with healthcare for everyone?"  etc.  It makes it look like Socialism is GRAND!

The thing is, nothing's wrong with the results...but the key is that they're asking the wrong question.  Feeding everyone's fine, but that's not the issue.  Healthcare for everyone is fine, but that's not the issue.

And "getting the victims of Hurricane Harvey recovery funds" is fine....

....but that's not the issue!

And conservatives realize that, so that's why conservatives aren't answering your red herring.
Well said, indeed!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 11, 2017, 09:21:27 pm
Exactly. He has established precedent.
Any time the Dems want something, all they have to do is hold some essential piece of business hostage and point fingers at the GOP.

And this is different from Democrats my entire life...how?  They've always done that, it's always one crisis or another!  It helps they have the media on their side ready to spread the lies.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 11, 2017, 09:22:37 pm
We also say I-Ran.....vs. Iran.  I-ran, you ran, he/she/it ran.....

but I digress.
I get it. As opposed to ih-rahn. Yep, I say I-ran, too.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DB on September 11, 2017, 09:25:48 pm
And this is different from Democrats my entire life...how?  They've always done that, it's always one crisis or another!  It helps they have the media on their side ready to spread the lies.

Healthcare was a "crisis" too when the Democrats had to do something about it... Now we have Obamacare and can't get rid of it...
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DB on September 11, 2017, 09:26:24 pm
I get it. As opposed to ih-rahn. Yep, I say I-ran, too.

It isn't I-ran?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 11, 2017, 09:29:57 pm
It isn't I-ran?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIpfWORQWhU
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Sanguine on September 11, 2017, 09:31:21 pm
LMAO!!!   Texan pronunciation would be Peecan.

Oh, no, ma'am.  We say it the right way: pah kahn.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 11, 2017, 09:35:00 pm
Oh, no, ma'am.  We say it the right way: pah kahn.

That's the way I always heard it pronounced.  I learnt it when I lived in TX, we never even said it back in MI.  Never really a reason to, we never had any.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 11, 2017, 09:36:02 pm
His supporters made a deal with the devil to begin with. In for a penny in for a pound... Once your "in" it becomes easy.

That's right. To include bending the tenets of Conservatism well past the breaking point.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 11, 2017, 09:37:48 pm
A common theme with Trump supporters is the ends justify the means. Winning is more important than how you do it, who you destroy. The left has been doing this for a long long time. The divide is vanishing...

Indeed, the divide is *GONE*
Much to the shame of this nation, and what she once was.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 11, 2017, 09:39:23 pm
You are absolutely crazy. If all members of Congress wanted a clean bill there would have been a clean bill! Jezz!

We'll never know now, will we? If the pOTUS had picked a champion and went that way instead, who knows what could have been?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 11, 2017, 09:41:29 pm
(I say peecan too).

Me too  :shrug:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Bigun on September 11, 2017, 09:42:52 pm
Oh, no, ma'am.  We say it the right way: pah kahn.

 888high58888
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 11, 2017, 09:42:53 pm
Exactly. He has established precedent.
Any time the Dems want something, all they have to do is hold some essential piece of business hostage and point fingers at the GOP.

That's right.
 :beer:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Hoodat on September 11, 2017, 09:43:07 pm
In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit.

-A. Rand-
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 11, 2017, 09:48:54 pm
Oh, no, ma'am.  We say it the right way: pah kahn.

LOL! This is funny.
Texans say pican, peecan, and pahcahn... Mebbe all y'all have a regional dialect thing going on.
I wonder if it is west Texas that says peecan, since that seems to be more the way the Rockies say it... in my experience.

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: GrouchoTex on September 11, 2017, 09:50:06 pm
pi-can (short I sound)

PICK-on. (TEXAS. Southeast/Gulf coast, anyway)
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Bigun on September 11, 2017, 09:51:29 pm
"And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of the society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery, and to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering.

Then begins, indeed, the bellum omnium in omnia, which some philosophers observing to be so general in this world, have mistaken it for the natural, instead of the abusive state of man.

And the fore horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression."

– Thomas Jefferson, letter to Sam Kercheval about reform of the Virginia Constitution, July 12, 1816; "The Writings of Thomas Jefferson," Definitive Edition, Albert Ellery Bergh, Editor, The Thomas Jefferson Memorial Association (1905) Vol. XV, p. 40

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Sanguine on September 11, 2017, 09:52:11 pm
LOL! This is funny.
Texans say pican, peecan, and pahcahn... Mebbe all y'all have a regional dialect thing going on.
I wonder if it is west Texas that says peecan, since that seems to be more the way the Rockies say it... in my experience.

I dunno.  It's a big state, but the only people I ever hear call them pee-can were from elsewhere.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Bigun on September 11, 2017, 09:54:58 pm
I dunno.  It's a big state, but the only people I ever hear call them pee-can were from elsewhere.

Amen!  And we produce our fair share around here!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Hoodat on September 11, 2017, 09:55:20 pm
pi-KAHN

Emphasis on second syllable.

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on September 11, 2017, 09:58:23 pm
Did the Pope say something hurricane related?  I must have missed it.  I can't stand this false Pope.
He came close to saying that scientists are to be respected because they are infallible.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,280720.msg1448463.html#msg1448463
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Hoodat on September 11, 2017, 10:00:44 pm
Anyone want to take a crack at how you pronounce this?

(http://www.cvs.com/bizcontent/merchandising/productimages/large/3900008589.jpg)
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Sanguine on September 11, 2017, 10:03:22 pm
Anyone want to take a crack at how you pronounce this?

(http://www.cvs.com/bizcontent/merchandising/productimages/large/3900008589.jpg)

I'll bite - vee in ah sausage.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 11, 2017, 10:04:09 pm
Anyone want to take a crack at how you pronounce this?

(http://www.cvs.com/bizcontent/merchandising/productimages/large/3900008589.jpg)

I say "gross".  Someone call it different?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on September 11, 2017, 10:04:58 pm
Oh, no, ma'am.  We say it the right way: pah kahn.
This seventh generation Texan says you are correct.  When I lived in Lousiana I heard the PeeCan for the first time.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DB on September 11, 2017, 10:07:25 pm
"And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of the society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery, and to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering.

Then begins, indeed, the bellum omnium in omnia, which some philosophers observing to be so general in this world, have mistaken it for the natural, instead of the abusive state of man.

And the fore horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression."

– Thomas Jefferson, letter to Sam Kercheval about reform of the Virginia Constitution, July 12, 1816; "The Writings of Thomas Jefferson," Definitive Edition, Albert Ellery Bergh, Editor, The Thomas Jefferson Memorial Association (1905) Vol. XV, p. 40

And knowing that, we still charge full steam ahead into oblivion. Somehow this time it will be different... Our betters demand that they know so. But it won't. It can't. It is the bitter harvest of spending your future now.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Hoodat on September 11, 2017, 10:11:48 pm
I'll bite - vee in ah sausage.

If you're from Georgia, it's

vahy-AN-nuh
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Bigun on September 11, 2017, 10:12:56 pm
Anyone want to take a crack at how you pronounce this?

(http://www.cvs.com/bizcontent/merchandising/productimages/large/3900008589.jpg)

Cow tiddies!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 11, 2017, 10:14:31 pm
Anyone want to take a crack at how you pronounce this?

(http://www.cvs.com/bizcontent/merchandising/productimages/large/3900008589.jpg)
Duck Blind food.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: txradioguy on September 11, 2017, 10:15:38 pm
You are absolutely crazy. If all members of Congress wanted a clean bill there would have been a clean bill! Jezz!

Well thanks to Trump making a preemptive deal with the Dem leadership we'll never know what they would have actually done now will we?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 11, 2017, 10:15:53 pm
I'll bite - vee in ah sausage.
Yep, we speak the same language.  888high58888
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Bigun on September 11, 2017, 10:16:02 pm
And knowing that, we still charge full steam ahead into oblivion. Somehow this time it will be different... Our betters demand that they know so. But it won't. It can't. It is the bitter harvest of spending your future now.
@DB


Sadly that seems to be all too true!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: txradioguy on September 11, 2017, 10:16:35 pm
Anyone want to take a crack at how you pronounce this?

(http://www.cvs.com/bizcontent/merchandising/productimages/large/3900008589.jpg)

As my Grandma used to say "veenie weenies"
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: GtHawk on September 11, 2017, 10:20:16 pm
As opposed to peh-kahn?

You say to may toe, I say to maah toe,.. (I say peecan too).
I don't care what you folks call it, all I know is that after all this I want some pie, pecan pie, and I don't care how you say it!
(http://i49.tinypic.com/10opd8x.jpg)
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: endicom on September 11, 2017, 10:21:22 pm
This thread has been hijacked by a nut!


Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Sanguine on September 11, 2017, 10:41:37 pm
I don't care what you folks call it, all I know is that after all this I want some pie, pecan pie, and I don't care how you say it!
(http://i49.tinypic.com/10opd8x.jpg)


My dad makes it with a bit of bourbon (in the pie filling, not the chef) and, #%$ it's good.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Bigun on September 11, 2017, 10:43:35 pm
My dad makes it with a bit of bourbon (in the pie filling, not the chef) and, #%$ it's good.

I'll bet!  Bit in both is ok to!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: GtHawk on September 11, 2017, 10:54:39 pm
I say "gross".  Someone call it different?
Yeah, my Mom called it dog food for her little dog, I called that appropriate. The only other ones I ever saw eating them were young children, until they learned better.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Sanguine on September 11, 2017, 10:57:35 pm
I actually like them....
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: GtHawk on September 11, 2017, 11:01:26 pm
My dad makes it with a bit of bourbon (in the pie filling, not the chef) and, #%$ it's good.
See, more talk, still no pie! And your dad's version sounds awesome!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: corbe on September 11, 2017, 11:13:51 pm
'pah kahn' and my 1894 house was moved right in the middle of an orchard in 1945, 20 miles north of largest pah kahn, ever.

 (https://www.cardcow.com/images/set401/card00949_fr.jpg)
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: mountaineer on September 11, 2017, 11:17:59 pm
I really do not understand the "value" of staying "on topic".
Those are the rules at this forum. If you don't like it ...
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 11, 2017, 11:18:07 pm
I actually like them....
me, too
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 11, 2017, 11:18:21 pm
'pah kahn' and my 1894 house was moved right in the middle of an orchard in 1945, 20 miles north of largest pah kahn, ever.

 (https://www.cardcow.com/images/set401/card00949_fr.jpg)

Man yer old.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: corbe on September 11, 2017, 11:25:51 pm
   I miss the clarity of my memories, they're all a blur now and run into each other, that's how old I am, my pushing 70 stick is getting shorter everyday.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: endicom on September 11, 2017, 11:34:33 pm
Those are the rules at this forum. If you don't like it ...


This thread is on topic?


Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: INVAR on September 11, 2017, 11:38:23 pm
"And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of the society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery, and to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering.

Then begins, indeed, the bellum omnium in omnia, which some philosophers observing to be so general in this world, have mistaken it for the natural, instead of the abusive state of man.

And the fore horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression."

– Thomas Jefferson, letter to Sam Kercheval about reform of the Virginia Constitution, July 12, 1816; "The Writings of Thomas Jefferson," Definitive Edition, Albert Ellery Bergh, Editor, The Thomas Jefferson Memorial Association (1905) Vol. XV, p. 40

Thanks for posting this wisdom that today - Trump supporters have told us is foolish and 'an enemy of the good'.


This thread is on topic?


Hopefully it is now that bringing Bigun's quotation of Jeffersons warning to the fore in regards to Trump's compromise with Democrats to much applause from self-identifying "Conservatives".
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: GtHawk on September 11, 2017, 11:40:11 pm

This thread is on topic?
Well it started on Topic A and I think we passed B and are on C or D, but so what?
As MOD1 stated
"There is no rigid enforcement of a "Stay on Topic" rule here, as I'm sure you well know.  There is a "do not troll and intentionally disrupt threads" rule here. "
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Elderberry on September 12, 2017, 12:00:11 am
'pah kahn' and my 1894 house was moved right in the middle of an orchard in 1945, 20 miles north of largest pah kahn, ever.


Dang! That's a big nut!

And I thought my Podsednik tree dropped big nuts.  I want one of them ther trees.

(http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/CARYA/pecans/95/PODSE95A.JPG)
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Emjay on September 12, 2017, 12:11:48 am
LMAO!!!   Texan pronunciation would be Peecan.

Nope!  PeConn  accent on the conn.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: corbe on September 12, 2017, 12:17:14 am
  Now that is some real big nuts @Elderberry
  I'm sure the one in Sequin, memorialized, is just more Texas hyperbole, one important distinction here, I learned to speak in Louisiana, after all I get my Gas at an Earl Station, still.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: txradioguy on September 12, 2017, 12:24:32 am
This thread has been hijacked by a nut!

Not anymore...we've pretty much managed to get jpsb to quit going off topic.


We're good.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Suppressed on September 12, 2017, 12:36:59 am
I say "gross".  Someone call it different?

@RoosGirl
I call it a lifesaver!  It's what I had for Christmas dinner (with saltines) one year for Christmas dinner early in my career, when the budget ran out at the new year and we needed all the footage we could get at a remote site.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 12, 2017, 12:41:43 am
@RoosGirl
I call it a lifesaver!  It's what I had for Christmas dinner (with saltines) one year for Christmas dinner early in my career, when the budget ran out at the new year and we needed all the footage we could get at a remote site.

Hey. Wash that goobley stuff off em, lay a hunk of bacon down... pack it pretty thick with brown sugar, and roll that little weenie up in there. Make up a mess of em, sprinkle em all with more brown sugar, and throw em in the oven to cook off...

That's Mmmm guuud, right there.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 12, 2017, 01:06:08 am
@RoosGirl
I call it a lifesaver!  It's what I had for Christmas dinner (with saltines) one year for Christmas dinner early in my career, when the budget ran out at the new year and we needed all the footage we could get at a remote site.

I understand what they're good for, but if I'm going to eat meat out of can it's going to be corned beef hash. :)
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Suppressed on September 12, 2017, 01:26:24 am
I understand what they're good for, but if I'm going to eat meat out of can it's going to be corned beef hash. :)

Yum!  Now you made me just go open a can of corned beef!

Now I remember... We used to get cans of roast-beef hash, too.  I'll have to get some!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Emjay on September 12, 2017, 02:08:50 am
The Sunday Morning talk show thread was always one of my favorites to post on.

Mine, too.  And there are people who post on that thread who don't post anywhere else.  Some of them are flat out crazy but interesting.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: txradioguy on September 12, 2017, 02:24:48 am
Mine, too.  And there are people who post on that thread who don't post anywhere else.  Some of them are flat out crazy but interesting.

Fishtalk was good...so was rodguy911 and a few others...I really had to up my debate game whenever I was participating there.

I miss those guys.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Bigun on September 12, 2017, 02:27:09 am
Fishtalk was good...so was rodguy911 and a few others...I really had to up my debate game whenever I was participating there.

I miss those guys.

There were tons of really smart people there at one time but that is no more.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Suppressed on September 12, 2017, 02:33:16 am
Nope!  PeConn  accent on the conn.

I remember meeting a feller from Alabama who pronounced it "PUCK-in".
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Suppressed on September 12, 2017, 02:35:56 am
after all I get my Gas at an Earl Station, still.

A Belle in my past got quite a surprise when her salad (ordered in Yankeeland) came with all vinegar and no oil.  After all, that's what she'd ordered on it..."Ahl vinegar"
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 12, 2017, 02:38:35 am
22 Maps That Show How Americans Speak English Totally Differently From One Another

http://www.businessinsider.com/22-maps-that-show-the-deepest-linguistic-conflicts-in-america-2013-6
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cripplecreek on September 12, 2017, 03:06:34 am
22 Maps That Show How Americans Speak English Totally Differently From One Another

http://www.businessinsider.com/22-maps-that-show-the-deepest-linguistic-conflicts-in-america-2013-6

(https://i.imgur.com/7FtnEjT.png)

Most people in Michigan call them roundabouts but I just call them a cluster f***.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on September 12, 2017, 03:13:18 am
I don't care what you folks call it, all I know is that after all this I want some pie, pecan pie, and I don't care how you say it!
(http://i49.tinypic.com/10opd8x.jpg)

That plate just don't look right without that scoop of Blue Bell sitting next to it.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 12, 2017, 03:30:38 am

Most people in Michigan call them roundabouts but I just call them a cluster f***.

I guess that's common here too... but the country folks around here call em a whoop-de-do.
Just started infiltrating here. Some dingbat at county planning must think we need to be more like Europe or something.

The new truck bypass has 3 or four of em... Truck bypass now. How the hell are you sposed to get a 40 and a pup around one of those darned things?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on September 12, 2017, 03:39:50 am
Trump wants congress to do it job and part of that job is putting together a budget. He just gave them three months to show they are capable of doing their job.
That is complete BS.  We have been operating for years with myriads of 'continuing resolutions' which means we have had years and years of no budgets, thus no accountability for what it costs this government and what they spend money on.

It is a shell game, and it will remain a shell game.  3 months won't solve a damn thing.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: aligncare on September 12, 2017, 07:28:54 am

This thread is on topic?

Thank you for asking that question.. See, that's the problem right there. The definition of off topic seems to be arbitrarily set depending on the moderator. Say something politically controversial he/she doesn't like, get a time out. But page after page of off topic quirky pie pronunciations? Hey, no problem for the in-crowd.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 02:26:44 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/7FtnEjT.png)

Most people in Michigan call them roundabouts but I just call them a cluster f***.
I use the same term, (or circle jerk), but have occasionally referred to them (the ones with raised centers) as "snowdrift accumulators". No matter which way the wind blows, it will drift.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Sanguine on September 12, 2017, 02:27:05 pm
Thank you for asking that question.. See, that's the problem right there. The definition of off topic seems to be arbitrarily set depending on the moderator. Say something politically controversial he/she doesn't like, get a time out. But page after page of off topic quirky pie pronunciations? Hey, no problem for the in-crowd.

I thought you were the "in-crowd"?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 02:30:20 pm
Thank you for asking that question.. See, that's the problem right there. The definition of off topic seems to be arbitrarily set depending on the moderator. Say something politically controversial he/she doesn't like, get a time out. But page after page of off topic quirky pie pronunciations? Hey, no problem for the in-crowd.
Do quirky off-topic pie pronunciations trigger you? Are they cause for verbal bloodletting? Perhaps the management needs to reevaluate policy if that is the case.
Have a donut, lighten up, smile even if it hurts, and have a nice day. :seeya:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: jpsb on September 12, 2017, 02:32:55 pm
Those are the rules at this forum. If you don't like it ...

I see, 15+ posts about pies is OK. "Rules for thee but not for me".
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: jpsb on September 12, 2017, 02:35:31 pm
Yum!  Now you made me just go open a can of corned beef!

Now I remember... We used to get cans of roast-beef hash, too.  I'll have to get some!

Corned beef comes in a can? Did you mean corned beef and hash?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 12, 2017, 02:35:47 pm
I see, 15+ posts about pies is OK. "Rules for thee not not for me".

 8888crybaby
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: jpsb on September 12, 2017, 02:41:13 pm
8888crybaby

Ted Cruz is in the news today, I was going to post an article on it but I figured that would get me a time out so I didn't. It would have been a interesting and fun thread. Oh well, see how that works.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 12, 2017, 02:42:55 pm
Ted Cruz is in the news today, I was going to post an article on it but I figured that would get me a time out so I didn't. It would have been a interesting and fun thread. Oh well, see how that works.

Thank you for stepping up to be the site martyr.  I appreciate your contribution.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2017, 02:43:09 pm
Corned beef comes in a can? Did you mean corned beef and hash?

You bet it does.  Mrs. Liberty just bought some of the Underwood when she loaded me up with the Deviled Ham.  Good stuff!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2017, 02:44:28 pm
Ted Cruz is in the news today, I was going to post an article on it but I figured that would get me a time out so I didn't. It would have been a interesting and fun thread. Oh well, see how that works.

That would be weird.  Your Cruz-slamming would actually be on topic.  :thud:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 02:48:21 pm
I see, 15+ posts about pies is OK. "Rules for thee but not for me".
Who said you couldn't post about pies?

What's your favorite?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: jpsb on September 12, 2017, 02:53:42 pm
You bet it does.  Mrs. Liberty just bought some of the Underwood when she loaded me up with the Deviled Ham.  Good stuff!

Well then I am going to get some. I've only seen corn beef and hash which I love. I'll take an iron skillet and put corned beef hash on one side and wolf brand chilly on the other side. Cook at a high heat until both are done. Yummy, get a little chilly on your fork then a little corn beef hash.

That is my cheap and easy dinner when I don't feel like really cooking.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: mystery-ak on September 12, 2017, 02:55:35 pm
Ted Cruz is in the news today, I was going to post an article on it but I figured that would get me a time out so I didn't. It would have been a interesting and fun thread. Oh well, see how that works.

Well I was going to post it but I'll let you

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ted-cruzs-staff-reports-porn-video-on-his-profile-to-twitter/article/2634106
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: jpsb on September 12, 2017, 02:55:35 pm
Who said you couldn't post about pies?

What's your favorite?

I'm torn between cherry, apple and punkin. Apple with vanela ice cream is hard to beat.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 12, 2017, 02:58:28 pm
Ted Cruz is in the news today, I was going to post an article on it but I figured that would get me a time out so I didn't. It would have been a interesting and fun thread. Oh well, see how that works.

Is this the Ted Cruz news you were talking about?

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=280864.new#new
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: aligncare on September 12, 2017, 02:58:54 pm
Do quirky off-topic pie pronunciations trigger you? Are they cause for verbal bloodletting? Perhaps the management needs to reevaluate policy if that is the case.
Have a donut, lighten up, smile even if it hurts, and have a nice day. :seeya:

Off topic posts absolutely do not concern me; I have a scroll button and an off button and use both liberally.  But, shutting down a poster with an opinion on the subject, who responded to something someone said about Sen. Cruz, that does concern me. Both are off topic, but only one triggers a warning.

Greatest feature ever invented for online political discussions: the scroll button. I ignore most of the on-topic posts here so I certainly have no problem zipping past irrelevant (to me) posts.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: jpsb on September 12, 2017, 03:02:07 pm
That would be weird.  Your Cruz-slamming would actually be on topic.  :thud:

I kinda like Ted Cruz, I voted for him three times last election. But I recognize he is another professional politician with lots of pimples. I just get annoyed when he is presented as "the one true conservative" he's not. I'll just leave it at that. And get back on topic.

Pies and Corned Beef! Best way to cook corned beef is in a pressure cooker, melts in your mouth and great for a juicy Rubin.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: aligncare on September 12, 2017, 03:07:07 pm
I kinda like Ted Cruz, I voted for him three times last election. But I recognize he is another professional politician with lots of pimples. I just get annoyed when he is presented as "the one true conservative" he's not. I'll just leave it at that. And get back on topic.

Pies and Corned Beef! Best way to cook corned beef is in a pressure cooker, melts in your mouth and great for a juicy Rubin.

You. Will be. Assimilated.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 12, 2017, 03:13:36 pm
Off topic posts absolutely do not concern me; I have a scroll button and an off button and use both liberally.  But, shutting down a poster with an opinion on the subject, who responded to something someone said about Sen. Cruz, that does concern me. Both are off topic, but only one triggers a warning.

Greatest feature ever invented for online political discussions: the scroll button. I ignore most of the on-topic posts here so I certainly have no problem zipping past irrelevant (to me) posts.

Including the ones that are inconvenient. :)
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 12, 2017, 03:14:25 pm
I'm torn between cherry, apple and punkin. Apple with vanela ice cream is hard to beat.

Yeah. Until it's got a Dutch crumble top - Then it's impossible to beat.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 12, 2017, 03:15:54 pm
Yeah. Until it's got a Dutch crumble top - Then it's impossible to beat.

That is my husband's favorite.  I'm more partial to cream pies, like coconut or banana; no ice cream.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 03:25:36 pm
That is my husband's favorite.  I'm more partial to cream pies, like coconut or banana; no ice cream.
I'm a heretic. I like Boston Cream Pie.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: jpsb on September 12, 2017, 03:26:44 pm
Yeah. Until it's got a Dutch crumble top - Then it's impossible to beat.

As a young man I lived in Germany for 3 years. I don't know how they make apple pies there but they are the best I ever tasted, much better then American apple pies. And yes Dutch crumples on top rules.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 12, 2017, 03:30:20 pm
That is my husband's favorite.  I'm more partial to cream pies, like coconut or banana; no ice cream.

Oh, but I have a marvelous consistency in my love of pies... Any pies... Except lemon meringue and key lime, which I do recognize as pie, and do love - But it's a love i'd cheat on, and mean to.

As to the rest, they are all so wonderful, to include a good chocolate or banana pie.

My tip top favorites though: Dutch Apple/apple/ala-mode/whatever, Mississippi Mud Pie, and Cherry, warm and ala-mode. And cherry would share a near space with Huckleberry in the same fashion.

All that followed closely by Banana Cream and Pecan (PEE-can) - Though I find Pecan to be to rich and I normally can't have too much of it.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 03:37:07 pm
Oh, but I have a marvelous consistency in my love of pies... Any pies... Except lemon meringue and key lime, which I do recognize as pie, and do love - But it's a love i'd cheat on, and mean to.

As to the rest, they are all so wonderful, to include a good chocolate or banana pie.

My tip top favorites though: Dutch Apple/apple/ala-mode/whatever, Mississippi Mud Pie, and Cherry, warm and ala-mode. And cherry would share a near space with Huckleberry in the same fashion.

All that followed closely by Banana Cream and Pecan (PEE-can) - Though I find Pecan to be to rich and I normally can't have too much of it.
Don't leave out lemon meringue...

And then, there's cheesecake, which should be pie, but somehow isn't...
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 12, 2017, 03:39:53 pm
As a young man I lived in Germany for 3 years. I don't know how they make apple pies there but they are the best I ever tasted, much better then American apple pies. And yes Dutch crumples on top rules.

Folks hereabouts tend to like hybrid apple pies - Apple-Strawberry, or Apple Rhubarb... All good btw (Strawberry is another dead-on favorite). But nothing, and I mean nothing beats my mother's Dutch Apple - garnered from my grandmother on my father's side (Dutch).

The difference you see between Germany and here is very probably heirloom apples. Apples in our supply chain are awful by comparison. If you want a good pie, find a farmer with an old tart tree in your area and make the pie from that.

And hold on to something at the taste test, because you are likely to swoon. :)
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 12, 2017, 03:42:45 pm
Don't leave out lemon meringue...

I didn't... see high up in my post, w/ Key Lime

Quote
And then, there's cheesecake, which should be pie, but somehow isn't...

Aw, my mamma makes a cherry cheesecake that will knock you right out. That oughta be right at the top too.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Suppressed on September 12, 2017, 03:46:34 pm
Elderberry pie is the best.

Grape pie is in second place.


@Elderberry ...not talking about you, don't worry!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2017, 03:48:56 pm
So I wonder...is this "dinner" a natural follow up to this story?  Does it make sense to bring some of the "moderate" Dems like Manchin in to talk turkey about tax cuts, or is trying to build on the Hurricane thing a fool's errand.

(And yes, there is a recipe in the first half-dozen posts..)

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,280845.0.html
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: jpsb on September 12, 2017, 03:50:38 pm
Folks hereabouts tend to like hybrid apple pies - Apple-Strawberry, or Apple Rhubarb... All good btw (Strawberry is another dead-on favorite). But nothing, and I mean nothing beats my mother's Dutch Apple - garnered from my grandmother on my father's side (Dutch).

The difference you see between Germany and here is very probably heirloom apples. Apples in our supply chain are awful by comparison. If you want a good pie, find a farmer with an old tart tree in your area and make the pie from that.

And hold on to something at the taste test, because you are likely to swoon. :)

Yes that makes sense, apple pies in Germany were not as sweet as apples pies here. German apple pies were also more dense. Get two pies of similar size and the German one weights much more then the American one. Now I am talking about store bought pies not homemade ones. The only pie I a capable of making is chocolate pudding pie with a store bought crust and canned whip cream on top.

Thanks for the tip.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Bigun on September 12, 2017, 04:15:16 pm
Well I was going to post it but I'll let you

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ted-cruzs-staff-reports-porn-video-on-his-profile-to-twitter/article/2634106

@jpsb @mystery-ak

BFD!  Some slug posted some trash on Ted's twitter account which was promptly removed by his staff and reported to twitter!  YAWN!!!!

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: jpsb on September 12, 2017, 04:19:04 pm
@jpsb @mystery-ak

BFD!  Some slug posted some trash on Ted's twitter account which was promptly removed by his staff and reported to twitter!  YAWN!!!!

That is not entirely true, someone with access to Cruzs' Twitter account was watching porn.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Bigun on September 12, 2017, 04:23:09 pm
That is not entirely true, someone with access to Cruzs' Twitter account was watching porn.

Once again! BFD!!!  Twitter is a sewer and just like F/B accounts there get hacked continuously.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Elderberry on September 12, 2017, 04:27:19 pm
Elderberry pie is the best.

Grape pie is in second place.


@Elderberry ...not talking about you, don't worry!

@Suppressed

And I haven't tried Elderberry pie.

 It must be fabulous if it tops Blackberry Cobbler. And you know, it must be made from hand picked berries. Store bought berries are all fully ripe. You must also have the close to ripe and partially ripe berries too, to give it some tartness.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DCPatriot on September 12, 2017, 04:28:15 pm
Once again! BFD!!!  Twitter is a sewer and just like F/B accounts there get hacked continuously.

Happy to claim that I never logged on to "Twitter".   Ever!   :laugh:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: txradioguy on September 12, 2017, 04:33:42 pm
So I wonder...is this "dinner" a natural follow up to this story?  Does it make sense to bring some of the "moderate" Dems like Manchin in to talk turkey about tax cuts, or is trying to build on the Hurricane thing a fool's errand.

(And yes, there is a recipe in the first half-dozen posts..)

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,280845.0.html

Fools errand. At the end of the day someone like Manchin is wedded to the party and will side with leadership.

Anything they in are doing that you can see is usually a distraction from what they're plotting behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Sanguine on September 12, 2017, 04:39:13 pm
That is not entirely true, someone with access to Cruzs' Twitter account was watching porn.

How do you watch porn on Twitter?  Is such a thing even possible?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: GtHawk on September 12, 2017, 04:44:57 pm
Off topic posts absolutely do not concern me; I have a scroll button and an off button and use both liberally.  But, shutting down a poster with an opinion on the subject, who responded to something someone said about Sen. Cruz, that does concern me. Both are off topic, but only one triggers a warning.

Greatest feature ever invented for online political discussions: the scroll button. I ignore most of the on-topic posts here so I certainly have no problem zipping past irrelevant (to me) posts.
If you took the time to go back and read MOD1's statement you would see that wasn't true. But that would defeat a certain persons victimhood.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: GtHawk on September 12, 2017, 04:46:28 pm
Happy to claim that I never logged on to "Twitter".   Ever!   :laugh:
If it's called Twitter are the users by definition Twits?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: GtHawk on September 12, 2017, 04:52:55 pm
Elderberry pie is the best.

Grape pie is in second place.


@Elderberry ...not talking about you, don't worry!
When I was a teenager working at Knotts Berry Farm the bakery occasionally burned (okay maybe on purpose) some of the Boysenberry pies and employees could buy them for a quarter, funny thing is I don't care for it all now.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 05:11:51 pm
How do you watch porn on Twitter?  Is such a thing even possible?
144 characters or less should make for aa lot of possibilities... :shrug:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 05:20:55 pm
When I was a teenager working at Knotts Berry Farm the bakery occasionally burned (okay maybe on purpose) some of the Boysenberry pies and employees could buy them for a quarter, funny thing is I don't care for it all now.

Oooh....I remember touring Knotts Berry Farm when I was 16.  Boysenberry was my favorite syrup for years after that trip.  I had never even had or tried it before that.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 05:23:47 pm
Oh, but I have a marvelous consistency in my love of pies... Any pies... Except lemon meringue and key lime, which I do recognize as pie, and do love - But it's a love i'd cheat on, and mean to.

As to the rest, they are all so wonderful, to include a good chocolate or banana pie.

My tip top favorites though: Dutch Apple/apple/ala-mode/whatever, Mississippi Mud Pie, and Cherry, warm and ala-mode. And cherry would share a near space with Huckleberry in the same fashion.

All that followed closely by Banana Cream and Pecan (PEE-can) - Though I find Pecan to be to rich and I normally can't have too much of it.

Edwards makes an excellent Key Lime Pie that I am hooked on.  I like it straight from the freezer....still frozen.  Damn.  Now I'm hungry.  And no pie anywhere to be had.   8888crybaby
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 12, 2017, 05:29:27 pm
Edwards makes an excellent Key Lime Pie that I am hooked on.  I like it straight from the freezer....still frozen.  Damn.  Now I'm hungry.  And no pie anywhere to be had.   8888crybaby

LOL! while you're going anyway, pick me up a crappy frozen chocolate pie -The one with the crappy fake whip cream on the top... they're great to eat frozen. I also like (prefer) crappy fudgesicles the 18 pack for $2.50... Don't like the fancy ones.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 12, 2017, 05:32:29 pm
Oh, but I have a marvelous consistency in my love of pies... Any pies... Except lemon meringue and key lime, which I do recognize as pie, and do love - But it's a love i'd cheat on, and mean to.

As to the rest, they are all so wonderful, to include a good chocolate or banana pie.

My tip top favorites though: Dutch Apple/apple/ala-mode/whatever, Mississippi Mud Pie, and Cherry, warm and ala-mode. And cherry would share a near space with Huckleberry in the same fashion.

All that followed closely by Banana Cream and Pecan (PEE-can) - Though I find Pecan to be to rich and I normally can't have too much of it.

I didn't think you had a prejudiced bone in your body.  I'm glad to have more proof. :)
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 12, 2017, 05:40:26 pm
Quote
Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
New York Post, Sep 10, 2017

With Florida taking a horrific pounding from Irma so soon after Harvey’s flooding farther west, it’s now plain that President Trump was right to take that deal with Democratic leaders Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi last week.

By agreeing to kick the can on the debt-limit and spending battles three months down the road, Trump avoided having Washington locked in another inside-baseball battle when so many Americans are suffering.

Maybe the president could’ve been nicer to GOP leaders Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan while taking the Dem offer. But the grim truth is that the Republicans’ elaborate strategizing has failed utterly so far this year.

It’s September, and ObamaCare remains unrepealed, unreplaced and unfixed. Any kind of tax reform or tax cut is now dicey, and even funding the government through the end of the next fiscal year is almost certainly going to require another one of those ginormous, swamp-feeding omnibus bills.

<snip>

Moving change through Congress may sometimes require risking a public-relations hit, but it’s just crazy to fight such battles in the middle of huge natural disasters. Irma’s devastation is just more proof that Trump was the one seeing clearly here.


More: http://nypost.com/2017/09/10/irmas-wrath-confirms-trumps-wisdom-in-cutting-that-deal-with-democrats/
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 12, 2017, 05:45:31 pm
I didn't think you had a prejudiced bone in your body.  I'm glad to have more proof. :)

LOL!

Well, one of you Southern gals has to teach me the secret of a Mississippi Mud Pie. Everybody up north goes dull in the eye when I say those words.

I am currently becoming enamored of a darlin little Arkansas sweet pea... But unfortunately, she has a serious handicap. She makes cornbread, biscuits and hush puppies with the best of them, but confectionery baking is not her strong suit at all (according to her, not me)...So no relief there. I am on my own for the cookies, pies, cakes and such  :shrug:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2017, 05:50:16 pm


Say @Right_in_Virginia, didn't you already post that in a stand-alone thread?  Wouldn't it be nice if you posted a link to that discussion already underway?

Or do you plan on telling the Mods to merge this one with that one?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 06:01:20 pm
Sniff! Sniff! I smell Spam!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 12, 2017, 06:03:57 pm
Say @Right_in_Virginia, didn't you already post that in a stand-alone thread?  Wouldn't it be nice if you posted a link to that discussion already underway?

Or do you plan on telling the Mods to merge this one with that one?

This is the damn stand alone thread @Cyber Liberty   I just reposted the topic of this thread --that I started yesterday.

Catch the hell up.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2017, 06:05:58 pm
This is the damn stand alone thread @Cyber Liberty   I just reposted the topic of this thread --that I started yesterday.

Catch the hell up.

So it is.  Then why post the article again?  Catching up is pretty difficult when people pull that.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 06:07:38 pm
Sniff! Sniff! I smell Spam!

Man....she's touchy/testy today.  (I know, I know...how can you tell?)

Methinks she is just trying to be subtle re: 'get back on topic and HEEERE it IS' routine....lol.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 12, 2017, 06:09:09 pm
So it is.  Then why post the article again? 

Because people have a short attention spans around here and prefer swapping recipes to discussing thread topics. 

@Cyber Liberty

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2017, 06:10:41 pm
Man....she's touchy/testy today.  (I know, I know...how can you tell?)

Methinks she is just trying to be subtle re: 'get back on topic and HEEERE it IS' routine....lol.

I think posting the same article on the thread of the article makes her look dain bramaged.  I saw that and assumed she wasn't that stupid and was simply spamming her article.  See, I ended up being wrong twice, and she chewed ME out for it.   *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2017, 06:11:22 pm
Because people have a short attention spans around here and prefer swapping recipes to discussing thread topics. 

@Cyber Liberty

Somehow you think you can control threads?  An on-the-ball Mod would just delete your redundant post.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 06:11:50 pm
Because people have a short attention spans around here and prefer swapping recipes to discussing thread topics. 

@Cyber Liberty

Recipes?  In this thread?  Where???  Did I miss them?   I love recipes.  Please point me to them....purty please!!!!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2017, 06:13:28 pm
Recipes?  In this thread?  Where???  Did I miss them?   I love recipes.  Please point me to them....purty please!!!!

I've been looking all over this thread and I can't find them.  I did find a very spirited discussion on how to pronounce Pecan on another one of her threads...maybe that's why she's so angry today?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 12, 2017, 06:13:32 pm
Man....she's touchy/testy today.  (I know, I know...how can you tell?)

Methinks she is just trying to be subtle re: 'get back on topic and HEEERE it IS' routine....lol.

There was nothing subtle about it @XenaLee

Have you any idea how foolish we look when we are incapable of discussing serious topics?  You want to swap cooking tips?  Why not take it "General Discussion".

Give the forum a fighting chance.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 06:13:40 pm
I think posting the same article on the thread of the article makes her look dain bramaged.  I saw that and assumed she wasn't that stupid and was simply spamming her article.  See, I ended up being wrong twice, and she chewed ME out for it.   *****rollingeyes*****

Lol....she obviously got up on the wrong side of the .....

ok...I won't say it.  I'll be nice. 

See?  I DO have restraint!   :silly:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 06:15:13 pm
There was nothing subtle about it @XenaLee

Have you any idea how foolish we look when we are incapable of discussing serious topics?  You want to swap cooking tips?  Why not take it "General Discussion".

Give the forum a fighting chance.

All I can say to that is..... (and you won't like it....trust me)....

much like yer average, rabid, FATM (frothing at the mouth) leftie....

you have NO sense of humor!!!    :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 12, 2017, 06:16:20 pm
Lol....she obviously got up on the wrong side of the .....

ok...I won't say it.  I'll be nice. 

See?  I DO have restraint!   :silly:

You might consider doing something useful with you life @XenaLee

I'm just about worn out keeping you busy.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2017, 06:16:37 pm
There was nothing subtle about it @XenaLee

Have you any idea how foolish we look when we are incapable of discussing serious topics?  You want to swap cooking tips?  Why not take it "General Discussion".

Give the forum a fighting chance.

I think if it can't be said in 242 Posts it probably can't be said without talking in circles.

BTW, in TX it's pronounced "Peh-KAHN."
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2017, 06:17:19 pm
You might consider doing something useful with you life @XenaLee

I'm just about worn out keeping you busy.

Everybody needs a Hobby Horse.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 06:19:00 pm
I've been looking all over this thread and I can't find them.  I did find a very spirited discussion on how to pronounce Pecan on another one of her threads...maybe that's why she's so angry today?

She's definitely riding the broom, no doubt about it.  This thread went that many pages of 'serious' debate and discussion and finally drifted to general humor and off-topic banality....like long threads always do eventually.   Gee... I would hate to go through life always being THAT 'serious' about everything all the time.   I kinda feel sorry for her.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Sanguine on September 12, 2017, 06:20:13 pm
Because people have a short attention spans around here and prefer swapping recipes to discussing thread topics. 

@Cyber Liberty

So, what's your favorite pie, @Right_in_Virginia?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 06:20:41 pm
You might consider doing something useful with you life @XenaLee

I'm just about worn out keeping you busy.

And you might want to take a remedial grammar course, RIV.   It's been so long (apparently)....

you've forgotten how to communicate correctly.

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2017, 06:22:21 pm
And you might want to take a remedial grammar course, RIV.   It's been so long (apparently)....

you've forgotten how to communicate correctly.

Now look what you did...you've worn out her left index finger.  How is she going to eat her Pecan Pie now?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 06:23:00 pm
There was nothing subtle about it @XenaLee

Have you any idea how foolish we look when we are incapable of discussing serious topics?  You want to swap cooking tips?  Why not take it "General Discussion".

Give the forum a fighting chance.
I think we do pretty well at discussing serious topics.

The title throws me, though.
An inanimate object is anthropomorphized to justify laud handing the Democrats an unnecessary and clear victory in a textbook case of 'how not to negotiate'.

As I have stated (not sure if it was on this thread), that the 'great communicator' could have tweeted something to the effect of "Congress wants to hold up hurricane relief by stacking stuff on the bill. Contact them and give 'em hell for it. Tell them to pass a clean bill. " and been the voice of the People, pushing for just hurricane aid, without the usual Beltway Games, and holding the collective feet of the COngress to the fire.
It's a missed opportunity, not only to shame the Congress into action, but to unite the public behind him, and now the Dems know they can mess with any essential legislation and get their way, and like as not Trump will come hat in hand to them.

Some deal. Some brilliance.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 06:24:49 pm
Now look what you did...you've worn out her left index finger.  How is she going to eat her Pecan Pie now?
Is that pee can pie or peh kahn pie?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 12, 2017, 06:26:03 pm
And you might want to take a remedial grammar course, RIV.   It's been so long (apparently).... you've forgotten how to communicate correctly.

Good for you @XenaLee .... you can teach English! 

Picture it ... you'll be off the couch and contributing something to this world beyond snark.

Good luck.  I'll be praying for you!!!   :beer:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2017, 06:26:52 pm
I think we do pretty well at discussing serious topics.

The title throws me, though.
An inanimate object is anthropomorphized to justify laud handing the Democrats an unnecessary and clear victory in a textbook case of 'how not to negotiate'.

As I have stated (not sure if it was on this thread), that the 'great communicator' could have tweeted something to the effect of "Congress wants to hold up hurricane relief by stacking stuff on the bill. Contact them and give 'em hell for it. Tell them to pass a clean bill. " and been the voice of the People, pushing for just hurricane aid, without the usual Beltway Games, and holding the collective feet of the COngress to the fire.
It's a missed opportunity, not only to shame the Congress into action, but to unite the public behind him, and now the Dems know they can mess with any essential legislation and get their way, and like as not Trump will come hat in hand to them.

Some deal. Some brilliance.

Agreed.  I don't think this was the stunning move many think it is, but it's hard to say because the public has become so jaded about the process.  I don't have faith if, he asked, people would ring their Congressman's phone off the hook, because the media has them hating him so much.

Yeah, yeah...so what kind of pie do you like?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Sanguine on September 12, 2017, 06:27:13 pm
Tangents like those on this thread tend to increase camaraderie amongst the members, and create a warm, welcoming culture.  I'm baffled as to why anyone posting here would be opposed to that.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2017, 06:28:42 pm
Is that pee can pie or peh kahn pie?

I have it on pretty good authority in Texas it's peh-KHAN pie.  Straight from @Sanguine, and I consider her authority on TX dialog absolute.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2017, 06:29:25 pm
Tangents like those on this thread tend to increase camaraderie amongst the members, and create a warm, welcoming culture.  I'm baffled as to why anyone posting here would be opposed to that.

Especially on threads that have broken the 250 Post barrier.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 12, 2017, 06:30:49 pm
Because people have a short attention spans around here and prefer swapping recipes to discussing thread topics. 

@Cyber Liberty

And some people won't discuss the topic because they have some weird hang-up with thinking other members are not serious enough.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 06:33:19 pm
I think we do pretty well at discussing serious topics.

The title throws me, though.
An inanimate object is anthropomorphized to justify laud handing the Democrats an unnecessary and clear victory in a textbook case of 'how not to negotiate'.

As I have stated (not sure if it was on this thread), that the 'great communicator' could have tweeted something to the effect of "Congress wants to hold up hurricane relief by stacking stuff on the bill. Contact them and give 'em hell for it. Tell them to pass a clean bill. " and been the voice of the People, pushing for just hurricane aid, without the usual Beltway Games, and holding the collective feet of the COngress to the fire.
It's a missed opportunity, not only to shame the Congress into action, but to unite the public behind him, and now the Dems know they can mess with any essential legislation and get their way, and like as not Trump will come hat in hand to them.

Some deal. Some brilliance.

Exactly.  Reagan sure knew how to take it to the people.   Needless to say...

Trump ain't no Reagan.  No way, no how.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Sanguine on September 12, 2017, 06:34:15 pm
I have it on pretty good authority in Texas it's peh-KHAN pie.  Straight from @Sanguine, and I consider her authority on TX dialog absolute.

Now I'm feeling the pressure.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 06:35:17 pm
Good for you @XenaLee .... you can teach English! 

Picture it ... you'll be off the couch and contributing something to this world beyond snark.

Good luck.  I'll be praying for you!!!   :beer:

LOL!!!   Let me guess....

you pray to the little orange god with the cheetohs smoothie facial mask.  Amirite?   :silly:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Bigun on September 12, 2017, 06:36:53 pm
Is that pee can pie or peh kahn pie?

pəˈkän
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: aligncare on September 12, 2017, 06:42:16 pm
Good for you @XenaLee .... you can teach English! 

Picture it ... you'll be off the couch and contributing something to this world beyond snark.

Good luck.  I'll be praying for you!!!   :beer:

It's more than the snark, RIV, it's the personal insults that I find most trying.

In the past several months I've watched as smart, articulate posters come here, be greeted and then find themselves on the receiving end of these personal insults. Then, one by one, I notice their absence. Pity.

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 12, 2017, 06:44:07 pm
It's more than the snark, RIV, it's the personal insults that I find most trying.

In the past several months I've watched as smart, articulate posters come here, be greeted and then find themselves on the receiving end of these personal insults. Then, one by one, I notice their absence. Pity.

You say while quoting a comment with a personal insult in it!   *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Sanguine on September 12, 2017, 06:46:11 pm
You say while quoting a comment with a personal insult in it!   *****rollingeyes*****

In defense of Aligncare, I'm sure that's what he meant.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 06:46:40 pm
Agreed.  I don't think this was the stunning move many think it is, but it's hard to say because the public has become so jaded about the process.  I don't have faith if, he asked, people would ring their Congressman's phone off the hook, because the media has them hating him so much.

Yeah, yeah...so what kind of pie do you like?
I like just about any pie. I'm not so hot on Key Lime, but I like banana cream pie, chocolate pie, cherry, juneberry, chokecherry, plum, peach, apple, strawberry-rhubarb, sour cream and raisin, lemon meringue, Boston Cream Pie (although that is sorta cake, too), blackberry, raspberry, chicken pot (hee hee), Shepherd's, mincemeat, pumpkin, peecan, and most any I might have left out.
Throw barbecue in a pie crust, and I'm happy.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Sanguine on September 12, 2017, 06:48:20 pm
I like just about any pie. I'm not so hot on Key Lime, but I like banana cream pie, chocolate pie, cherry, juneberry, chokecherry, plum, peach, apple, strawberry-rhubarb, sour cream and raisin, lemon meringue, Boston Cream Pie (although that is sorta cake, too), blackberry, raspberry, chicken pot (hee hee), Shepherd's, mincemeat, pumpkin, peecan, and most any I might have left out.
Throw barbecue in a pie crust, and I'm happy.

BBQ pie.  I'm going to have to think about that one.  Could be good.  Maybe use a cornmeal crust?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 12, 2017, 06:49:04 pm
In defense of Aligncare, I'm sure that's what he meant.

If that is true I will apologize and delete my comment.  I have never seen the Gang not defend each other.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Sanguine on September 12, 2017, 06:49:20 pm
Oh, wow!  It already exists:  http://allrecipes.com/recipe/73034/bbq-pie/
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 06:50:53 pm
You say while quoting a comment with a personal insult in it!   *****rollingeyes*****

Oh.... the irony! 

He comes back with the exact same shtick, nothing different in his routine.  Still refuses to see or acknowledge his own side's responsibility in anything here.  That is the real pity.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 06:53:26 pm
I like just about any pie. I'm not so hot on Key Lime, but I like banana cream pie, chocolate pie, cherry, juneberry, chokecherry, plum, peach, apple, strawberry-rhubarb, sour cream and raisin, lemon meringue, Boston Cream Pie (although that is sorta cake, too), blackberry, raspberry, chicken pot (hee hee), Shepherd's, mincemeat, pumpkin, peecan, and most any I might have left out.
Throw barbecue in a pie crust, and I'm happy.

Never had rhubarb in anything, much less pie.  Don't care for mincemeat in any form.  But I make a dynamite French Silk Pie (chocolate with whipped cream) at Christmas time.  It's almost sinful. 
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 06:53:42 pm
BBQ pie.  I'm going to have to think about that one.  Could be good.  Maybe use a cornmeal crust?
Anything crispy and flaky.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2017, 06:55:04 pm
Oh, wow!  It already exists:  http://allrecipes.com/recipe/73034/bbq-pie/

That looks more like a Shepard's Pie, with Beans subbed for mashed potatoes.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 07:16:52 pm
Never had rhubarb in anything, much less pie.  Don't care for mincemeat in any form.  But I make a dynamite French Silk Pie (chocolate with whipped cream) at Christmas time.  It's almost sinful.
The rhubarb adds significant tartness. The French Silk Pie sounds great!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Oceander on September 12, 2017, 07:17:55 pm
Corned beef comes in a can? Did you mean corned beef and hash?

You can get hash made with roast beef as well as with corned beef. It's good. 
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 07:18:00 pm
Oh, wow!  It already exists:  http://allrecipes.com/recipe/73034/bbq-pie/
Hey! We have our first recipe! (It was inevitable, and someone had already complained, so why not?)
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2017, 07:18:43 pm
It's more than the snark, RIV, it's the personal insults that I find most trying.

In the past several months I've watched as smart, articulate posters come here, be greeted and then find themselves on the receiving end of these personal insults. Then, one by one, I notice their absence. Pity.

@RoosGirl has a pretty good point, @aligncare.  You quoted a post from @Right_in_Virginia that had a personal attack on RG, then you complained about snark and personal attacks in your follow-up.  That's pretty ironical, don't you think?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 07:20:25 pm
Corned beef comes in a can? Did you mean corned beef and hash?
(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/4e68d112-8093-4139-8f0a-941d2704470f_1.4e31c33e4723e41039ff87320656cf03.jpeg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF)
Hormel has it, too.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Oceander on September 12, 2017, 07:23:38 pm
(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/4e68d112-8093-4139-8f0a-941d2704470f_1.4e31c33e4723e41039ff87320656cf03.jpeg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF)
Hormel has it, too.

Hormel's good stuff!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2017, 07:26:46 pm
(https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/4e68d112-8093-4139-8f0a-941d2704470f_1.4e31c33e4723e41039ff87320656cf03.jpeg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF)
Hormel has it, too.

Mrs. Liberty just found at the grocery store Underwood's deviled Corned Beef when she was getting my ham.  Looks yummy!

(http://www.underwoodspreads.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/product_688uw_corned.beef_.spread_4.5oz.jpg)

They have roast beef, too.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: aligncare on September 12, 2017, 07:27:17 pm
In defense of Aligncare, I'm sure that's what he meant.

You are in part correct. I don't like personal insults and I do strive hard not to use to them.

But, I also know that generally when people are punched, they tend to punch back. So in defense of RIV, she was a counterpuncher in this instance, and I've noticed in other instances as well. When insults go flying, it's typically she that gets hit with the first insult. That's what I see: RIV responding in kind. Well at least she uses graceful taunts in return.

I'm the same way. You can say I'm wrong, question my facts, you can insult Trump with any name in the book, that's your privilege. I don't care about that. I do care however that members not be allowed to insult me personally. And if I'm not mistaken, forum rules have something to say about that.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: mountaineer on September 12, 2017, 07:28:08 pm
Mmm, that corned beef in a can brings back childhood memories. For some reason, my mother served it with a poached egg. We were full of protein, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: aligncare on September 12, 2017, 07:28:25 pm
@RoosGirl has a pretty good point, @aligncare.  You quoted a post from @Right_in_Virginia that had a personal attack on RG, then you complained about snark and personal attacks in your follow-up.  That's pretty ironical, don't you think?

In my defense, see above.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DCPatriot on September 12, 2017, 07:32:28 pm
So it is.  Then why post the article again?  Catching up is pretty difficult when people pull that.

It was HER way of telling everybody to STFU about pies.

...but you knew that!   :laugh:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2017, 07:33:57 pm
In my defense, see above.

I saw it.  I may disagree about who started what (it can be hard to tell in these threads, and it makes me glad I'm not a Mod tasked with trying to sort that stuff out), but I can agree that people who get punched tend to punch back.

 :beer:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2017, 07:35:16 pm
It was HER way of telling everybody to STFU about pies.

...but you knew that!   :laugh:

I don't think there was much discussion about pies before then, but there sure as heck was after.  I'll have to scroll back and review.

Now, that thread yesterday...THERE was a pie thread.

 888high58888

Added:  My bad, this WAS the pie thread.  Ooops.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: mountaineer on September 12, 2017, 07:35:18 pm
Speaking of pies, I've made two apple pies to donate to a festival my church is sponsoring. I froze them, and am a nervous wreck hoping they'll turn out okay once baked. I've never baked frozen pies before.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 07:37:57 pm
Mrs. Liberty just found at the grocery store Underwood's deviled Corned Beef when she was getting my ham.  Looks yummy!

(http://www.underwoodspreads.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/product_688uw_corned.beef_.spread_4.5oz.jpg)

They have roast beef, too.

I haven't had deviled ham in YEARS.  Love it...nice & salty (salt being my main addiction currently).  Love corned beef too (must be my Irish half).  Only problem is.... corned beef is waaay too expensive these days.

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DCPatriot on September 12, 2017, 07:38:28 pm
If that is true I will apologize and delete my comment. I have never seen the Gang not defend each other.

 :police:

When two people are the subject, the correct usage is "each other".

When it's more than two ("Gang"), it's "one another".


....Sister Mary Redempta, circa 1955
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: aligncare on September 12, 2017, 07:39:56 pm
Anyone care to comment about the often quick disappearances of newly arrived members who happened to have been Trump supporters?

We get lots of new members, some very bright and articulate. Yet, many make a quick exit once they go a few rounds with our resident NTs. That is disheartening.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: mountaineer on September 12, 2017, 07:41:44 pm
Anyone care to comment about the often quick disappearances of newly arrived members who happened to have been Trump supporters?

We get lots of new members, some very bright and articulate. Yet, many make a quick exit once they go a few rounds with our resident NTs. That is disheartening.
Who are you talking about?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 07:42:13 pm
Anyone care to comment about the often quick disappearances of newly arrived members who happened to have been Trump supporters?

We get lots of new members, some very bright and articulate. Yet, many make a quick exit once they go a few rounds with our resident NTs. That is disheartening.

Who, specifically, made a quick exit?  Also, who is to say they won't come back.  You did.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: corbe on September 12, 2017, 07:44:08 pm
   On Topic, Yall are so quick to disregard RiV's ability to sway impressionable minds with her intellect, till this morning I was dead set against the debt deal Trump made with the democrats but after reading through her posts I now realize the error of my thinking, I'm a changed man #MAGA

(http://www.purposefool.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Disaster-Humble-Pie.jpg)



can't afford any sarcasm tags, there's apparently been a run on them.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: mystery-ak on September 12, 2017, 07:44:20 pm
Anyone care to comment about the often quick disappearances of newly arrived members who happened to have been Trump supporters?

We get lots of new members, some very bright and articulate. Yet, many make a quick exit once they go a few rounds with our resident NTs. That is disheartening.

As soon as I find out they are Trump people I zap them.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2017, 07:44:43 pm
Anyone care to comment about the often quick disappearances of newly arrived members who happened to have been Trump supporters?

We get lots of new members, some very bright and articulate. Yet, many make a quick exit once they go a few rounds with our resident NTs. That is disheartening.

I hope that's not the case...I'd hate to see the place become a mirror version of another place we know about.  If you know them, please encourage them to stay!  It disheartens me too.  I'm not on either "side," I just like talking to people.

It's one of the reasons we sometimes end up talking about pie.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2017, 07:45:52 pm
As soon as I find out they are Trump people I zap them.

You forgot your </sarc> tag....
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: GtHawk on September 12, 2017, 07:45:57 pm
:police:

When two people are the subject, the correct usage is "each other".

When it's more than two ("Gang"), it's "one another".


....Sister Mary Redempta, circa 1955
The only thing I learned from the Sister was to keep my hands away from their rulers, sorry was that off topic?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 12, 2017, 07:47:01 pm
As soon as I find out they are Trump people I zap them.

Muhuhuhahaha!
 888high58888
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2017, 07:48:01 pm
can't afford any sarcasm tags, there's apparently been a run on them.

Oh, that's what happened to @mystery-ak's tag...
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 07:48:30 pm
It was HER way of telling everybody to STFU about pies.

...but you knew that!   :laugh:
What? Y'all got something against pies?

Why that isn't American as Apple Pie and all that. :tongue2:

A couple of us commented on the OP, ho hum, and went back to being sidetracked.
Without comment on the comments, there was no lively discussion.

What kind of pie do you like?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 07:49:11 pm
As soon as I find out they are Trump people I zap them.

L M A O !   

That's one reason why I love this place.   The admin DOES have a sense of humor!

Hahahahaha!!!!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: corbe on September 12, 2017, 07:50:01 pm
As soon as I find out they are Trump people I zap them.

    Well that certainly explains @stephen50right disappearance, that boy had such a bright future, in the beginning,
 then he went all Trump on us.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: driftdiver on September 12, 2017, 07:51:26 pm
Anyone care to comment about the often quick disappearances of newly arrived members who happened to have been Trump supporters?

We get lots of new members, some very bright and articulate. Yet, many make a quick exit once they go a few rounds with our resident NTs. That is disheartening.

@aligncare

Probably the pack mentality they face here.  Where anyone that doesn't condemn every breath Trump takes is set upon.  Not unlike a mirror image of TOS.  Only here they don't get booted just told they are whining if they engage the moderators.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: aligncare on September 12, 2017, 07:52:31 pm
Who, specifically, made a quick exit?  Also, who is to say they won't come back.  You did.

With so many Trump detractors here I notice when supporters show up, and notice when they go silent.

Kinda like the sound of one hand clapping; the silence is deafening.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: mountaineer on September 12, 2017, 07:53:21 pm
Probably the pack mentality they face here.  Where anyone that doesn't condemn every breath Trump takes is set upon.  Not unlike a mirror image of TOS.  Only here they don't get booted just told they are whining if they engage the moderators.
:silly:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2017, 07:54:26 pm
    Well that certainly explains @stephen50right disappearance, that boy had such a bright future, in the beginning,
 then he went all Trump on us.

He posted a whole page of blank space, then "Poof!" gone in a puff of white.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DCPatriot on September 12, 2017, 07:55:19 pm
I don't think there was much discussion about pies before then, but there sure as heck was after.  I'll have to scroll back and review.

Now, that thread yesterday...THERE was a pie thread.

 888high58888

Added:  My bad, this WAS the pie thread.  Ooops.

LOL!  I know what you mean, @Cyber Liberty

After I posted that, I was that I was going to have to go thru TWO PAGES + to catch up.    I almost deleted it when I saw that...knowing what was going to follow.


+++++++++

On a more serious note, the way many in here are allowed to insult and impugn @Right_in_Virginia ....without any intervention by the House, only encourages more of the same.   It's gotten worse.

It's why there's a sign that says, "DON'T FEED THE DUCKS AND THE GEESE"!   

@Right_in_Virginia is a GD treasure here in the forum and if ya'll are at all honest, you'd admit it.

** This thread was locked...reason given that CRUZ was not the topic of the thread.

Remember that.

All of a sudden somebody starts up about pies and pecans and other assorted OT nonsense.  For pages.

CRICKETS!!!!

The original poster reminds everybody by reposting the article....since other direct elbows to the ribs wasn't getting anybody's attention.

And she gets savaged for it.

...yet some a$$holes .... are unable to step outside themselves and view the landscape objectively.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2017, 07:55:59 pm
@aligncare

Probably the pack mentality they face here.  Where anyone that doesn't condemn every breath Trump takes is set upon.  Not unlike a mirror image of TOS.  Only here they don't get booted just told they are whining if they engage the moderators.

I'm not on either side, but I'm damned far more frequently by one side than by the other.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: driftdiver on September 12, 2017, 07:56:02 pm
:silly:


 ****sheep****
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: corbe on September 12, 2017, 07:56:18 pm
   I look at it more objectively @driftdiver the AT'ers usually can tolerate the Nt'ers and vice~versa, and there is the majority of Briefers that are in neither camp, it makes for a very lively Forum. 
   Thank you Myst and mods, you make it possible.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: driftdiver on September 12, 2017, 07:57:09 pm
I'm not on either side, but I'm damned far more frequently by one side than by the other.

@Cyber Liberty

Really?  I guess I haven't seen that.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 12, 2017, 07:57:09 pm
:police:

When two people are the subject, the correct usage is "each other".

When it's more than two ("Gang"), it's "one another".


....Sister Mary Redempta, circa 1955

So with you it's now three...    :pondering:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2017, 07:57:30 pm
LOL!  I know what you mean, @Cyber Liberty

After I posted that, I was that I was going to have to go thru TWO PAGES + to catch up.    I almost deleted it when I saw that...knowing what was going to follow.


+++++++++

On a more serious note, the way many in here are allowed to insult and impugn @Right_in_Virginia ....without any intervention by the House, only encourages more of the same.   It's gotten worse.

It's why there's a sign that says, "DON'T FEED THE DUCKS AND THE GEESE"!   

@Right_in_Virginia is a GD treasure here in the forum and if ya'll are at all honest, you'd admit it.

** This thread was locked...reason given that CRUZ was not the topic of the thread.

Remember that.

All of a sudden somebody starts up about pies and pecans and other assorted OT nonsense.  For pages.

CRICKETS!!!!

The original poster reminds everybody by reposting the article....since other direct elbows to the ribs wasn't getting anybody's attention.

And she gets savaged for it.

...yet some a$$holes .... are unable to step outside themselves and view the landscape objectively.

Are you sure that was this thread?  There was a similar one just like it a day or two before, on the same subject.  But your point is still valid.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Just_Victor on September 12, 2017, 07:59:00 pm
:silly:
I can count on one hand the vehement anti-Trumpers, as easily as I count the rabid Trump defenders.

It's sad that some want to diminish the entire site on the basis of one or two kooks.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 08:00:02 pm
With so many Trump detractors here I notice when supporters show up, and notice when they go silent.

Kinda like the sound of one hand clapping; the silence is deafening.

Well.... I guess I haven't noticed that many "Trump supporters" showing up here.  I've noticed one recently and that's about it.

Again, who...specifically, came, saw and left?  Can you make your case...

or not?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 08:00:47 pm
@aligncare

Probably the pack mentality they face here.  Where anyone that doesn't condemn every breath Trump takes is set upon.  Not unlike a mirror image of TOS.  Only here they don't get booted just told they are whining if they engage the moderators.

"Set upon?"

I saw no small number of alleged facts one poster had wrong. Citing sources, I set the record straight on some of that. We do that all the time, here. If someone is consistently ill informed, they might see that as hostile, but it isn't. It's just setting the record straight.

Is that "set upon"?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: mountaineer on September 12, 2017, 08:00:50 pm

 ****sheep****
Back atcha.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: GrouchoTex on September 12, 2017, 08:01:03 pm
Someone questioning a politician?
OH, THE HORROR!
C'mon, it ain't all that bad.
Aren't we supposed to do that?
So, some like Trump more than others, so be it.
Cool!

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DCPatriot on September 12, 2017, 08:01:41 pm
Are you sure that was this thread?  There was a similar one just like it a day or two before, on the same subject.  But your point is still valid.

I apologize if I've gotten the threads mixed up....but as you said.  It stands by itself.

Only shows that it's happening on more than one thread.

 :bolt:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 12, 2017, 08:01:48 pm
:police:

When two people are the subject, the correct usage is "each other".

When it's more than two ("Gang"), it's "one another".


....Sister Mary Redempta, circa 1955

Sounds like a high fallutin difference between y'all and all y'all.
Em poor city folks can't keep it simple.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 08:03:09 pm
LOL!  I know what you mean, @Cyber Liberty

After I posted that, I was that I was going to have to go thru TWO PAGES + to catch up.    I almost deleted it when I saw that...knowing what was going to follow.


+++++++++

On a more serious note, the way many in here are allowed to insult and impugn @Right_in_Virginia ....without any intervention by the House, only encourages more of the same.   It's gotten worse.

It's why there's a sign that says, "DON'T FEED THE DUCKS AND THE GEESE"!   

@Right_in_Virginia is a GD treasure here in the forum and if ya'll are at all honest, you'd admit it.

** This thread was locked...reason given that CRUZ was not the topic of the thread.

Remember that.

All of a sudden somebody starts up about pies and pecans and other assorted OT nonsense.  For pages.

CRICKETS!!!!

The original poster reminds everybody by reposting the article....since other direct elbows to the ribs wasn't getting anybody's attention.

And she gets savaged for it.

...yet some a$$holes .... are unable to step outside themselves and view the landscape objectively.

Savaged???   You call "that" savaged?????

Holy keerrap, but you apparently lead a very sheltered life.  Or...maybe it's just a case of....

hyperbole much?   ^-^

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: driftdiver on September 12, 2017, 08:05:09 pm
   I look at it more objectively @driftdiver the AT'ers usually can tolerate the Nt'ers and vice~versa, and there is the majority of Briefers that are in neither camp, it makes for a very lively Forum. 
   Thank you Myst and mods, you make it possible.

@corbe

The ATs were bad during the election but have calmed down significantly.  Sure there is still an occasional post that's pure propaganda but far fewer.  Now it's the NTs who can turn every single thread into a cesspool with a comment about the wall or some such garbage.   I know the NTs froth at the mouth with the comparison but i really dont care.  I have no interest in fighting an election thats done.  Its time to look forward and do better next time.   People who cant / wont move past it are hurtiing America and can go to Hell.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Sanguine on September 12, 2017, 08:05:45 pm
@aligncare

Probably the pack mentality they face here.  Where anyone that doesn't condemn every breath Trump takes is set upon.  Not unlike a mirror image of TOS.  Only here they don't get booted just told they are whining if they engage the moderators.

Now, remember the complaint was about the pie discussion.  If people felt a "pack mentality" from all the pie talk, maybe they're too sensitive to post here or anywhere.  They should just stay off of the internet if they're that sensitive.  I feel badly for them.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 12, 2017, 08:05:48 pm
I apologize if I've gotten the threads mixed up....but as you said.  It stands by itself.

Only shows that it's happening on more than one thread.

 :bolt:

However, if I remember right, Myst cleared up the "intent" and that being disruptive to the general discussion on the thread versus meandering topic of conversation that isn't meant to disrupt and won't lead to a thread being locked?  I can see a difference.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Oceander on September 12, 2017, 08:08:34 pm
Anyone care to comment about the often quick disappearances of newly arrived members who happened to have been Trump supporters?

We get lots of new members, some very bright and articulate. Yet, many make a quick exit once they go a few rounds with our resident NTs. That is disheartening.

Yeah:  baloney
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DCPatriot on September 12, 2017, 08:08:37 pm
Savaged???   You call "that" savaged?????

Holy keerrap, but you apparently lead a very sheltered life.  Or...maybe it's just a case of....

hyperbole much?   ^-^

LOL!

Well, maybe it was where I had picked up the thread since my last visit.

I suddenly find myself reading the same 3-4-5 people nipping at her, belittling her, etc..

When it happens on a couple threads during the afternoon, "savage" works for me.

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 08:09:38 pm
@corbe

The ATs were bad during the election but have calmed down significantly.  Sure there is still an occasional post that's pure propaganda but far fewer.  Now it's the NTs who can turn every single thread into a cesspool with a comment about the wall or some such garbage.   I know the NTs froth at the mouth with the comparison but i really dont care.  I have no interest in fighting an election thats done.  Its time to look forward and do better next time.   People who cant / wont move past it are hurtiing America and can go to Hell.

What about the ones in the middle....or rather, the ones that don't fit in the NT or the AT camp (like me)? 

Seems to me .....those might be the vast majority of folks in America ....

but I could be wrong....lol.

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 12, 2017, 08:10:03 pm
It was HER way of telling everybody to STFU about pies.

...but you knew that!   :laugh:


Ding! Ding! Ding! 

(https://previews.123rf.com/images/iqoncept/iqoncept1606/iqoncept160600077/58219194-And-the-Winner-Is-Award-Trophy-Announcement-3d-Illustration-Stock-Illustration.jpg)  @DCPatriot


 88devil
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DCPatriot on September 12, 2017, 08:10:09 pm
However, if I remember right, Myst cleared up the "intent" and that being disruptive to the general discussion on the thread versus meandering topic of conversation that isn't meant to disrupt and won't lead to a thread being locked?  I can see a difference.

Of course, @RoosGirl ... I can too!

But after a full page of pies and pecans....   come on, man.    ^-^
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Oceander on September 12, 2017, 08:10:20 pm
Oh dearie, here we go again:  insufficient worshipping of Trump is now savagery committed against those bright articulate Trump worshippers.

:facepalm2:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 08:11:09 pm
LOL!

Well, maybe it was where I had picked up the thread since my last visit.

I suddenly find myself reading the same 3-4-5 people nipping at her, belittling her, etc..

When it happens on a couple threads during the afternoon, "savage" works for me.

Very well.  Carry on then..... *****rollingeyes*****

One thing you must admit....

it's never a dull around here.

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 12, 2017, 08:11:42 pm
Of course, @RoosGirl ... I can too!

But after a full page of pies and pecans....   come on, man.    ^-^

Haha, I think the point is, no one cares about the OP anymore. :)
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DCPatriot on September 12, 2017, 08:12:14 pm

Ding! Ding! Ding! 

(https://previews.123rf.com/images/iqoncept/iqoncept1606/iqoncept160600077/58219194-And-the-Winner-Is-Award-Trophy-Announcement-3d-Illustration-Stock-Illustration.jpg)  @DCPatriot


 88devil

50 years dealing with people....  it's like I have X-RAY vision or something.   :laugh:      :beer:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DCPatriot on September 12, 2017, 08:14:30 pm
Haha, I think the point is, no one cares about the OP anymore. :)

That doesn't mean the OP loses the absolute right to request posters stay on topic... or leave the thread. 
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: mystery-ak on September 12, 2017, 08:15:28 pm
What about the ones in the middle....or rather, the ones that don't fit in the NT or the AT camp (like me)? 

Seems to me .....those might be the vast majority of folks in America ....

but I could be wrong....lol.

That's the majority of people here too!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: aligncare on September 12, 2017, 08:17:33 pm
Who, specifically, made a quick exit?  Also, who is to say they won't come back.  You did.

Freedom928, is one I recall. He left after a quick opus complaining this was a leftist site, and Reagan's picture on the home page was deceptive.

Of the veterans there are many: flowers, longmire, MACSOG, haven't seen Lando around, Mesaclone had been very active but no more. Many more. Just look at the membership list and forum stats. Lots of familiar names, gone.

Some probably wearied of the personal attacks on their character or just felt uncomfortable with the tenor here.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 12, 2017, 08:19:07 pm
Savaged???   You call "that" savaged?????  Holy keerrap, but you apparently lead a very sheltered life.  Or...maybe it's just a case of....  hyperbole much?   

Savaged is appropriate @XenaLee ... I've a been a personal target of the NTs for two years.  I keep waiting for y'all to stand down because you must know by now..... you can't kill this messenger.   ^-^


Thanks for the gracious defense @DCPatriot 
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 12, 2017, 08:20:36 pm
50 years dealing with people....  it's like I have X-RAY vision or something.   :laugh:      :beer:


 888high58888

You're on a good roll today my friend.   000hehehehe
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DB on September 12, 2017, 08:21:23 pm
@corbe

The ATs were bad during the election but have calmed down significantly.  Sure there is still an occasional post that's pure propaganda but far fewer.  Now it's the NTs who can turn every single thread into a cesspool with a comment about the wall or some such garbage.   I know the NTs froth at the mouth with the comparison but i really dont care.  I have no interest in fighting an election thats done.  Its time to look forward and do better next time.   People who cant / wont move past it are hurtiing America and can go to Hell.

Hurting America was nominating a lying fool to head the party leaving it a contest between that and the totally corrupt criminal Hillary. And when you are reminded of that choice you claim it is an attack against America. You chose the "lesser" evil and now you have it. We all have it... And frankly the people who did this to us should be called out on it. You don't want to be reminded of "the wall" but it was "the wall" that justified all that was wrong with Trump. Everything else was ignored THE WALL was all important. You were played like a fool and don't want to be reminded of it. To bad.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: corbe on September 12, 2017, 08:22:20 pm
@corbe

The ATs were bad during the election but have calmed down significantly.  Sure there is still an occasional post that's pure propaganda but far fewer.  Now it's the NTs who can turn every single thread into a cesspool with a comment about the wall or some such garbage.   I know the NTs froth at the mouth with the comparison but i really dont care.  I have no interest in fighting an election thats done.  Its time to look forward and do better next time.   People who cant / wont move past it are hurtiing America and can go to Hell.

   @driftdiver first and foremost if there is a Hell, as the scripture so indicates, I will be there roasting long before you are, based on age alone.

   I disagree with your assertion that the NT'ers (whatever that is) are screwing up Threads, sure there's a few BUT it's all free will, and the AT'er's also pull that crap, neither are as prevalent as some here (like you for instance) like to indicate.

   THAT Election is done there's more coming up, Politics~it ain't BeanBag.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: driftdiver on September 12, 2017, 08:22:34 pm
Now, remember the complaint was about the pie discussion.  If people felt a "pack mentality" from all the pie talk, maybe they're too sensitive to post here or anywhere.  They should just stay off of the internet if they're that sensitive.  I feel badly for them.

@Sanguine

Did I refer to pie in my post?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: INVAR on September 12, 2017, 08:22:59 pm
Anyone care to comment about the often quick disappearances of newly arrived members who happened to have been Trump supporters?

We get lots of new members, some very bright and articulate. Yet, many make a quick exit once they go a few rounds with our resident NTs. That is disheartening.

Because they want a Trump worshipping echo chamber.  Not a forum that discusses Conservative ideas.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: mountaineer on September 12, 2017, 08:23:04 pm
Freedom928, is one I recall. He left after a quick opus complaining this was a leftist site, and Reagan's picture on the home page was deceptive.
Anyone who believes this is a "leftist site" is beyond idiocy.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: driftdiver on September 12, 2017, 08:24:28 pm
Hurting America was nominating a lying fool to head the party leaving it a contest between that and the totally corrupt criminal Hillary. And when you are reminded of that choice you claim it is an attack against America. You chose the "lesser" evil and now you have it. We all have it... And frankly the people who did this to us should be called out on it. You don't want to be reminded of "the wall" but it was "the wall" that justified all that was wrong with Trump. Everything else was ignored THE WALL was all important. You were played like a fool and don't want to be reminded of it. To bad.

Yet those people's vote counts as much as yours or mine.  Think about that.

So you can sit here hurling insults calling them a fool or you can start working at getting their vote next time.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DCPatriot on September 12, 2017, 08:25:27 pm
Savaged is appropriate @XenaLee ... I've a been a personal target of the NTs for two years.  I keep waiting for y'all to stand down because you must know by now..... you can't kill this messenger.   ^-^


Thanks for the gracious defense @DCPatriot

Well hell, "two years" of Trump is but a blip on the screen.   Some of us have 'known' you for a decade or more.

...it's their loss.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 08:26:54 pm
Freedom928, is one I recall. He left after a quick opus complaining this was a leftist site, and Reagan's picture on the home page was deceptive.

Of the veterans there are many: flowers, longmire, MACSOG, haven't seen Lando around, Mesaclone had been very active but no more. Many more. Just look at the membership list and forum stats. Lots of familiar names, gone.

Some probably wearied of the personal attacks on their character or just felt uncomfortable with the tenor here.

Well....with all due respect.... since this is by no means a "leftist site"... not even close.... perhaps the real reason he left was more due to his delusional perception (just a guess) of things?

Don't know about the others you mentioned ....but I suspect they left due to butt-hurt feelings about the forum having 'changed' by allowing folks that are anti-Trump to post here too.  No more safe space and "freedom of speech for me but not for thee" here. 

It was their option to stay or leave.  Right?

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DB on September 12, 2017, 08:27:07 pm
Freedom928, is one I recall. He left after a quick opus complaining this was a leftist site, and Reagan's picture on the home page was deceptive.

Of the veterans there are many: flowers, longmire, MACSOG, haven't seen Lando around, Mesaclone had been very active but no more. Many more. Just look at the membership list and forum stats. Lots of familiar names, gone.

Some probably wearied of the personal attacks on their character or just felt uncomfortable with the tenor here.

longmire the alt-right dude. I don't think he "left". I think he was banned after repeated warnings and timeouts.

What you really want is not to be challenged. Just another echo chamber like FR.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 12, 2017, 08:27:30 pm
That doesn't mean the OP loses the absolute right to request posters stay on topic... or leave the thread.

I didn't see anyone suggest such a thing.  In fact, she was asked a couple of times what type of pie she likes.  ^-^
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 08:29:06 pm
Oh dearie, here we go again:  insufficient worshipping of Trump is now savagery committed against those bright articulate Trump worshippers.

:facepalm2:

Yep

Why is it such hideous sacrilege to discuss pies, and be off topic, when fomenting the NT/AT war again, tediously, without end seems to be okay, even if it's off topic, too?
Or is it just civil discussion that's the problem?

We could spend endless pages flogging the dead horse of how utterly stupid, how tone deaf, how unpopulist the immediate turn to the political enemies of conservatism in complete prostrated capitulation was. How that established a precedent the Democrats are banking votes with even now, and will in the future. How unnecessary, when all he had to do was pop a presser and say to the PEOPLE that as soon as the Congress put a clean and unencumbered relief bill on his desk he'd sign it. It would be in Congress' hands, and the whole bloody lot would be in the hot seat.
Or not. That's the third time in two days I have articulated those points, and they are ignored for the most part.
So, what's to discuss? :shrug:

PIE! Something many of us like and fun to talk about.

But that's not enough drama, devoid of opportunities to tongue lash people from the comfort of your keyboard.
D@mnit, it's so hard to be a dark cloud in a sunny sky!
What is the purpose of dragging this off topic from a pleasant topic (PIE!) right past Trump's dumbassed capitulation to his former donor recipients and others, to an unpleasant sniping and bitching version of being off topic?

Or is it just to wreck a thread where people were having too much fun?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: txradioguy on September 12, 2017, 08:29:23 pm
Because they want a Trump worshipping echo chamber.  Not a forum that discusses Conservative ideas.

@INVAR notice how they leave out the ones that left because they complained about this place being too pro Trump.  There's a few names they left out that are on that particular list.

Both extremes want the other to shut up and go away...they both want echo chambers... @XenaLee hit the nail on the head...the majority here are NOT to the extreme on either side of the Trump debate.

And neither is the country.  Most want to give him a chance or the benefit of the doubt...but he's his own worst enemy.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DB on September 12, 2017, 08:29:59 pm
Yet those people's vote counts as much as yours or mine.  Think about that.

So you can sit here hurling insults calling them a fool or you can start working at getting their vote next time.

Like you telling people to go to hell that disagree with you???
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: txradioguy on September 12, 2017, 08:30:04 pm
longmire the alt-right dude. I don't think he "left". I think he was banned after repeated warnings and timeouts.

What you really want is not to be challenged. Just another echo chamber like FR.

Bingo
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: driftdiver on September 12, 2017, 08:31:52 pm
@INVAR notice how they leave out the ones that left because they complained about this place being too pro Trump.  There's a few names they left out that are on that particular list.

Both extremes want the other to shut up and go away...they both want echo chambers... @XenaLee hit the nail on the head...the majority here are NOT to the extreme on either side of the Trump debate.

And neither is the country.  Most want to give him a chance or the benefit of the doubt...but he's his own worst enemy.

@txradioguy

I do notice the logical fallacies filling your posts and the personal attacks in almost all of your responses.  But then garbage is as garbage does
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: txradioguy on September 12, 2017, 08:32:12 pm
Anyone who believes this is a "leftist site" is beyond idiocy.

@mountaineer

Well that would go hand in glove with the belief that if you didn't vote for Trump or if you criticize him now you either wanted Hillary to win or you're a Liberal.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 08:32:51 pm
Savaged is appropriate @XenaLee ... I've a been a personal target of the NTs for two years.  I keep waiting for y'all to stand down because you must know by now..... you can't kill this messenger.   ^-^


Thanks for the gracious defense @DCPatriot

Um...well....first of all, you're calling me a NT here, and I'm not.  Never have been.  So let me correct you on that point, firstly.

Secondly, I have witnessed you insult and snark and boss (or attempt to) folks around here, including myself, since my arrival at this forum. 

So puhleeeze...... just stop with the innocent victim act/routine.  I know better.  The forum members know better. 

Here....this might help ya...


(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XuOODX0c6o8/TU_pe-lzrzI/AAAAAAAABDg/iunQkhUnXXA/s1600/wambulance_logo.jpg)

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: txradioguy on September 12, 2017, 08:33:04 pm
@txradioguy

I do notice the logical fallacies filling your posts and the personal attacks in almost all of your responses.  But then garbage is as garbage does

You're a fine one to talk about logic and personal attacks.  And you're an absolute subject matter expert on GIGO
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Sanguine on September 12, 2017, 08:34:35 pm
@Sanguine

Did I refer to pie in my post?

OK, I can play that game too - did I say you did in my post?

 :tongue2:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DB on September 12, 2017, 08:35:11 pm
@txradioguy

I do notice the logical fallacies filling your posts and the personal attacks in almost all of your responses.  But then garbage is as garbage does

There you go again... More personal attacks... And when someone calls you on it you complain about the personal attacks which you started...
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: txradioguy on September 12, 2017, 08:35:11 pm
Um...well....first of all, you're calling me a NT here, and I'm not.  Never have been.  So let me correct you on that point, firstly.

Secondly, I have witnessed you insult and snark and boss (or attempt to) folks around here, including myself, since my arrival at this forum. 

So puhleeeze...... just stop with the innocent victim act/routine.  I know better.  The forum members know better. 

Here....this might help ya...


(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XuOODX0c6o8/TU_pe-lzrzI/AAAAAAAABDg/iunQkhUnXXA/s1600/wambulance_logo.jpg)

@XenaLee

Someone seems to forget they bring a lot of grief upon themselves by their own actions and words on here.  But hey some on here seem to think that instead of taking personal ownership of their part of the situation...it's better to play the:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl30rbHXEAAyG2s.jpg)


Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: aligncare on September 12, 2017, 08:37:19 pm
Hurting America was nominating a lying fool to head the party leaving it a contest between that and the totally corrupt criminal Hillary. And when you are reminded of that choice you claim it is an attack against America. You chose the "lesser" evil and now you have it. We all have it... And frankly the people who did this to us should be called out on it. You don't want to be reminded of "the wall" but it was "the wall" that justified all that was wrong with Trump. Everything else was ignored THE WALL was all important. You were played like a fool and don't want to be reminded of it. To bad.

You still seem angry with individuals here who voted for Trump. So, you're angry with me? Someone you don't know.

I'm not upset with NeverTrumpers because the didn't vote for Trump – obviously because he won – I'm upset with one issue only: personal insults to long standing members here. That's it. That's the whole ball of wax.

Everybody's got a different opinion and alliances can shift depending on specific topics or issues. We all get that. But, no one here deserves to be personally insulted; it's against common curtesy and forum rules.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: txradioguy on September 12, 2017, 08:40:23 pm
You still seem angry with individuals here who voted for Trump. So, you're angry with me? Someone you don't know.

I'm not upset with NeverTrumpers because the didn't vote for Trump – obviously because he won – I'm upset with one issue only: personal insults to long standing members here. That's it. That's the whole ball of wax.

Everybody's got a different opinion and alliances can shift depending on specific topics or issues. We all get that. But, no one here deserves to be personally insulted; it's against common curtesy and forum rules.

Quit taking criticism of Donald J Trump as a personal insult and you won't feel like someone is attacking you personally.

Quit making personal attacks on someone that doesn't bow and scrap for everything Trump does like you do and there won't be an issue.

See how easy that is?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: INVAR on September 12, 2017, 08:40:36 pm
Some probably wearied of the personal attacks on their character or just felt uncomfortable with the tenor here.

Give it a rest.  You Trump Pushers dish out more than your share of snark and personal attacks, even though you are in the vocal minority here.

In this way you're not much different in tactics than BLM, who ignore that their own people they are supposedly championing engage in the majority of crimes committed, but insist everything is racism when they are called out on it.

What is demanded is unwavering fealty and support of Trump and everything he says and does. The moment someone declares Trump a liar or argues that a position and action engaged in is NOT Conservative, you people bitch and moan about 'personal attacks' and other crap as the battle over what is Conservative and what is not continues to ratchet up.  Trump people seek to redefine Conservatism to comport with their leader, those of us here who are not invested in Trump say hell no.  Because we know and understand that neither Trump or the Republican party are Conservative in any capacity.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DB on September 12, 2017, 08:40:57 pm
You still seem angry with individuals here who voted for Trump. So, you're angry with me? Someone you don't know.

I'm not upset with NeverTrumpers because the didn't vote for Trump – obviously because he won – I'm upset with one issue only: personal insults to long standing members here. That's it. That's the whole ball of wax.

Everybody's got a different opinion and alliances can shift depending on specific topics or issues. We all get that. But, no one here deserves to be personally insulted; it's against common curtesy and forum rules.

The person I responded to told us to basically go to hell. You figure it out.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: mystery-ak on September 12, 2017, 08:42:20 pm
Everyone here needs to pull up your big boy undies/ or big girl panties and suck it up....this is an adult political forum where I/we allow all viewpoints..if you can't handle talking/defending your candidates decisions you are at the wrong forum
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 08:44:53 pm
Pretty much everyone I know here in Texas (since I don't associate with liberals/lefties)....

voted for Trump.  My best gf (like a sister), my ex husband, my ex bf/roommate/boss, my stepdaughter and her whole family, my cousin in Dallas, his ex and whole family, etc., etc....

I have no problem with that.  What I do have a problem with is people that support Trump preaching to me that I'm not thinking correctly if/when I question something he has said or done that I don't agree with.  That happens all the time here at this forum coming from the avid (notice I didn't say rabid here) Trump supporters side. 

Just.... for the record.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: aligncare on September 12, 2017, 08:45:00 pm
Anyone who believes this is a "leftist site" is beyond idiocy.

He wasn't the only one I recall making that observation. But, while I don't agree, I could see how someone new might come to that conclusion if in his short stay here he only interacted with a few of the more strident NTs. You folks know who you are.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 08:45:07 pm
@INVAR notice how they leave out the ones that left because they complained about this place being too pro Trump.  There's a few names they left out that are on that particular list.

Both extremes want the other to shut up and go away...they both want echo chambers... @XenaLee hit the nail on the head...the majority here are NOT to the extreme on either side of the Trump debate.

And neither is the country.  Most want to give him a chance or the benefit of the doubt...but he's his own worst enemy.
I think some of his supporters are his worst enemies, truth be told.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: corbe on September 12, 2017, 08:45:38 pm
    I frequent quite a few Forums/Blogs and IMHO this IS the 'cleanest one' that allows for honest debate, often witty and even allowing swapping pie recipes in the middle of a Trump screwed up again Thread.

    Carry On
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 08:47:41 pm
@txradioguy

I do notice the logical fallacies filling your posts and the personal attacks in almost all of your responses.  But then garbage is as garbage does
Rubbish!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 12, 2017, 08:48:52 pm
Hey y'all, could we please talk about how Trump made a deal with the libs?
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,280641.0.html

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Sanguine on September 12, 2017, 08:49:41 pm
Hey y'all, could we please talk about how Trump made a deal with the libs?
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,280641.0.html

 :laugh:

 :amen:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Silver Pines on September 12, 2017, 08:50:59 pm
Why are people angry about pie?

No...never mind.  Forget I asked.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 12, 2017, 08:52:29 pm
Cornbread. Man, it's good with chili.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: aligncare on September 12, 2017, 08:52:38 pm
Pretty much everyone I know here in Texas (since I don't associate with liberals/lefties)....

voted for Trump.  My best gf (like a sister), my ex husband, my ex bf/roommate/boss, my stepdaughter and her whole family, my cousin in Dallas, his ex and whole family, etc., etc....

I have no problem with that.  What I do have a problem with is people that support Trump preaching to me that I'm not thinking correctly if/when I question something he has said or done that I don't agree with.  That happens all the time here at this forum coming from the avid (notice I didn't say rabid here) Trump supporters side. 

Just.... for the record.

The day you hear me preaching directly to you, you have my permission to slap me down, question my ancestry and curse me out. Howzat?

Poppa here don't preach.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: GrouchoTex on September 12, 2017, 08:52:58 pm
Why are people angry about pie?

No...never mind.  Forget I asked.

All this talk about Pie are squared, pie are squared.

Everyone knows Pie are round.

Cornbread are squared......
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 08:53:19 pm
Why are people angry about pie?

No...never mind.  Forget I asked.
They want to round it off to an even three.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 08:53:41 pm
I think some of his supporters are his worst enemies, truth be told.

Yeah, I have often made the observation that some here are actually hurting the Trump campaign, movement and cause by being so rabidly 'pro-Trump'.  They definitely turned me off to him during the GOP primary....and some still continue to do so... to the point that even if you agree with something Trump does or says.... you are forced to approve in spite of their constant drivel that is a turn-off to all things Trump.   It's almost like they are, in bizarre world fashion, working for the opposition....lol.

 
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 08:53:46 pm
All this talk about Pie are squared, pie are squared.

Everyone knows Pie are round.

Cornbread are squared......
Preach it, Jethro!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RAT Patrol on September 12, 2017, 08:54:08 pm
You still seem angry with individuals here who voted for Trump. So, you're angry with me? Someone you don't know.

I'm not upset with NeverTrumpers because the didn't vote for Trump – obviously because he won – I'm upset with one issue only: personal insults to long standing members here. That's it. That's the whole ball of wax.

Everybody's got a different opinion and alliances can shift depending on specific topics or issues. We all get that. But, no one here deserves to be personally insulted; it's against common curtesy and forum rules.

Hahahahahaha!!!  You are rewriting history and painting the T-cult as angels and the NT ppl as devils.  That is just false.  The war started before Trump even won the primary.  it was back when other candidates were slandered by Trump and his cult, dragged through tabloid trash and given childish labels in order to elevate Trump.  Now it is time for a whole lot of WE TOLD YOU SOs because Trump is stabbing you in the back on what were supposedly your pet issues.  Are you honest enough to admit it?  Of course not.  I can guess why.  Why?  Because you worship Trump above all issues.

I can only speak for myself.  I left because the rules changed.  As soon as Trump won I was told to shut up.  There was no reason for me to stay if I could not say what I really thought.  I never wanted to be a cheerleader.   It appears that some brave souls stuck it out and held their ground.  I'm proud of them and come back to read their comments from time to time.  I was willing to fight the Trump cult.  I was unwilling to fight everyone else or get edited by the new thought police.  This thread reminds me that I made the right decision.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: GrouchoTex on September 12, 2017, 08:54:13 pm
They want to round it off to an even three.

LOL, see my post above yours.
Seems like we maybe on the same wavelength.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 08:54:46 pm
The day you hear me preaching directly to you, you have my permission to slap me down, question my ancestry and curse me out. Howzat?

Poppa here don't preach.

Ok.  Fair enough.   :beer:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: INVAR on September 12, 2017, 08:59:34 pm
He wasn't the only one I recall making that observation. But, while I don't agree, I could see how someone new might come to that conclusion if in his short stay here he only interacted with a few of the more strident NTs. You folks know who you are.
Because nearly all Trump sycophants have engaged in the meme that if you do not support Trump, you are not a Conservative and you are a Hillary supporter.

So the fact this site has vocal Conservatives who point out Trump is not a Conservative, and catalogue that fact, the knee-jerk reaction from aforementioned sycophants is that we are Leftists, because the concept that we are governed by principles and not devotion to a man or party is beyond their comprehension.

Their problem.  Not ours or this site's.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: mystery-ak on September 12, 2017, 09:02:13 pm
Quote
Everybody's got a different opinion and alliances can shift depending on specific topics or issues. We all get that. But, no one here deserves to be personally insulted; it's against common curtesy and forum rules.

All you have to do is file a post report when you feel insulted..I guarantee you several MODs will look at it. What we don't like is when someone else reports it...we feel if it doesn't bother the person it was intended for it doesn't bother us.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 12, 2017, 09:03:22 pm
This thread reminds me that I made the right decision.

but, but... then we miss you @RAT Patrol

(http://www.funlava.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Sad-Cat-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Sanguine on September 12, 2017, 09:07:45 pm
Hahahahahaha!!!  You are rewriting history and painting the T-cult as angels and the NT ppl as devils.  That is just false.  The war started before Trump even won the primary.  it was back when other candidates were slandered by Trump and his cult, dragged through tabloid trash and given childish labels in order to elevate Trump.  Now it is time for a whole lot of WE TOLD YOU SOs because Trump is stabbing you in the back on what were supposedly your pet issues.  Are you honest enough to admit it?  Of course not.  I can guess why.  Why?  Because you worship Trump above all issues.

I can only speak for myself.  I left because the rules changed.  As soon as Trump won I was told to shut up.  There was no reason for me to stay if I could not say what I really thought.  I never wanted to be a cheerleader.   It appears that some brave souls stuck it out and held their ground.  I'm proud of them and come back to read their comments from time to time.  I was willing to fight the Trump cult.  I was unwilling to fight everyone else or get edited by the new thought police.  This thread reminds me that I made the right decision.

It's so nice to hear from you!  I hope you reconsider your decision...maybe just a little?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Silver Pines on September 12, 2017, 09:08:03 pm
Cornbread. Man, it's good with chili.

@roamer_1

Cornbread is life.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: driftdiver on September 12, 2017, 09:08:03 pm
There you go again... More personal attacks... And when someone calls you on it you complain about the personal attacks which you started...

@DB

Yeah yep that's right.    You are spot on 100% correct.  A mind like a razor trap.      Simply amazing
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Silver Pines on September 12, 2017, 09:10:35 pm
All this talk about Pie are squared, pie are squared.

Everyone knows Pie are round.

Cornbread are squared......

@GrouchoTex
@Smokin Joe

Oh.  You're talking math.

Bye!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 12, 2017, 09:10:47 pm
All this talk about Pie are squared, pie are squared.

Everyone knows Pie are round.

Cornbread are squared......

Listen here you lintlicker, grand daddy made his cornbread in a cast iron skillet.  It most certainly was round.

PS  I hate cornbread, so I don't care.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 12, 2017, 09:14:13 pm
Listen here you lintlicker, grand daddy made his cornbread in a cast iron skillet.  It most certainly was round.

That's right.

Quote
PS  I hate cornbread, so I don't care.  :laugh:

*GASP* Is that the same mouth you kiss your mamma with?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 12, 2017, 09:15:15 pm
@roamer_1

Cornbread is life.

@CatherineofAragon

Yeah. Cept hush puppies. They're heaven.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 12, 2017, 09:17:03 pm
That's right.

*GASP* Is that the same mouth you kiss your mamma with?

LOL  It's the texture I don't like, although there is something wrong about bread that is sweet that isn't a pastry.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 09:17:44 pm
but, but... then we miss you @RAT Patrol

(http://www.funlava.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Sad-Cat-1.jpg)
True, that!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Silver Pines on September 12, 2017, 09:18:36 pm
@CatherineofAragon

Yeah. Cept hush puppies. They're heaven.

@roamer_1

Hush puppies are okay.  At least I like them, which is more than I can say for grits and sweet tea. 

And yes, I am born and raised Southern.  I just have a heretical streak.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 09:19:13 pm
LOL, see my post above yours.
Seems like we maybe on the same wavelength.
:beer: :laugh:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Silver Pines on September 12, 2017, 09:19:21 pm
LOL  It's the texture I don't like, although there is something wrong about bread that is sweet that isn't a pastry.

@RoosGirl

I like my cornbread non-sweet.  Jiffy mix might as well be yellow cake.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: mystery-ak on September 12, 2017, 09:19:38 pm
Hey..I've made pies in a square pan..a 9x9...so there
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: driftdiver on September 12, 2017, 09:20:36 pm
@aligncare

And that's why people don't post and end up leaving.  This thread has become a perfect example
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: GrouchoTex on September 12, 2017, 09:21:41 pm
Listen here you lintlicker, grand daddy made his cornbread in a cast iron skillet.  It most certainly was round.

PS  I hate cornbread, so I don't care.  :laugh:

I've done the same, and I do like cornbread...
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: GrouchoTex on September 12, 2017, 09:22:26 pm
Hey..I've made pies in a square pan..a 9x9...so there

Cobbler, yes. Pie? No, I haven't done that...
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 12, 2017, 09:25:29 pm
(http://cdn.instructables.com/FUY/U6L3/GLHRZ2NA/FUYU6L3GLHRZ2NA.LARGE.jpg)
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: ABX on September 12, 2017, 09:25:47 pm
Back to the topic at hand (because I really don't want to read 15 pages of squabbling)-

Does no one find it disturbing that the 'new normal' is to assume that Democrats can handle crisis spending and management better and thus, they are the ones we must deal with for important issues?

The Republicans had a spending plan that included hurricane relief that did not give a blank check for all future spending (removing debt cap).

But here we are, now just blindly assuming the answer to any problem is government getting involved on a massive scale and spending massive amounts and handing the keys to the Democrats who are the kings at over-spending and wasting 90% of what goes in.


Somehow people's hatred of Paul Ryan is resulting in handing Nancy Pelosi the keys and assuming she is a better driver.

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 12, 2017, 09:26:44 pm
LOL  It's the texture I don't like, although there is something wrong about bread that is sweet that isn't a pastry.

LOL! S'alright. I love ya anyway... But that must be northern cornbread... Mine don't have sugar in it... I guess it is sweet, but just the corn.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 12, 2017, 09:27:44 pm
@XenaLee

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl30rbHXEAAyG2s.jpg)

Oh for God's sake @txradioguy   If I were a victim, I'd have left long ago.

But I'm here and lovin' every single damn minute I get to interact with you. 

You are a delightful distraction.   And, I thank you.   ^-^

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: txradioguy on September 12, 2017, 09:29:23 pm
Back to the topic at hand (because I really don't want to read 15 pages of squabbling)-

Does no one find it disturbing that the 'new normal' is to assume that Democrats can handle crisis spending and management better and thus, they are the ones we must deal with for important issues?

The Republicans had a spending plan that included hurricane relief that did not give a blank check for all future spending (removing debt cap).

But here we are, now just blindly assuming the answer to any problem is government getting involved on a massive scale and spending massive amounts and handing the keys to the Democrats who are the kings at over-spending and wasting 90% of what goes in.


Somehow people's hatred of Paul Ryan is resulting in handing Nancy Pelosi the keys and assuming she is a better driver.

It's another instance of where the Democrats have been allowed to control the narrative with nary a word in opposition from anyone in the GOP.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 12, 2017, 09:29:32 pm
LOL! S'alright. I love ya anyway... But that must be northern cornbread... Mine don't have sugar in it... I guess it is sweet, but just the corn.

Hush your mouth!  Grand daddy and family were from Kingsland, GA.  I don't really know how he made it, since I never liked it. I can picture the yellow bag of cornmeal, but don't know what the rest in it was.  I think it was just that little bit of sweetness that corn naturally has.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: INVAR on September 12, 2017, 09:29:39 pm

And that's why people don't post and end up leaving.  This thread has become a perfect example

It's a big internet out there.  At least we don't get banned for posting an opinion that is not ass kissing Trump.

Threads are like evening dinner parties, they meander and flow in and out and change focus and the vast majority here actually LIKE the thread drift into nuts and pies - so deal with it... or not.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: GrouchoTex on September 12, 2017, 09:30:01 pm
(http://cdn.instructables.com/FUY/U6L3/GLHRZ2NA/FUYU6L3GLHRZ2NA.LARGE.jpg)

Thank you!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 12, 2017, 09:32:42 pm
@roamer_1

Hush puppies are okay.  At least I like them, which is more than I can say for grits and sweet tea. 

And yes, I am born and raised Southern.  I just have a heretical streak.

@CatherineofAragon 

I luuuv me some hush puppies. A little bit of ranch... aw that's guuuud.
Sweet tea by the bucket...
And cheesy grits

They are prerequisite wrt my next marriage.
Sorry darlin, I guess it just wasn't meant to be.  :shrug:

 :beer: :seeya:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 09:33:03 pm
Listen here you lintlicker, grand daddy made his cornbread in a cast iron skillet.  It most certainly was round.

PS  I hate cornbread, so I don't care.  :laugh:

You can't be Southern and hate cornbread. 

It's not allowed.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 12, 2017, 09:34:40 pm
You can't be Southern and hate cornbread. 

It's not allowed.

I'm a...um.... rebel?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 09:35:40 pm
@RoosGirl

I like my cornbread non-sweet.  Jiffy mix might as well be yellow cake.
Add salt!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: mystery-ak on September 12, 2017, 09:36:12 pm
Trump's deal with Democrats bolsters Ryan — for now

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/11/trump-democrats-paul-ryan-242526
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 09:37:24 pm
Back to the topic at hand (because I really don't want to read 15 pages of squabbling)-

Does no one find it disturbing that the 'new normal' is to assume that Democrats can handle crisis spending and management better and thus, they are the ones we must deal with for important issues?

The Republicans had a spending plan that included hurricane relief that did not give a blank check for all future spending (removing debt cap).

But here we are, now just blindly assuming the answer to any problem is government getting involved on a massive scale and spending massive amounts and handing the keys to the Democrats who are the kings at over-spending and wasting 90% of what goes in.


Somehow people's hatred of Paul Ryan is resulting in handing Nancy Pelosi the keys and assuming she is a better driver.

Has anyone actually seen the Republican plan?   There's a lot of disinformation out there about it....is the reason I asked.   Have you seen it?  Got link?

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 12, 2017, 09:37:34 pm
Hush your mouth!  Grand daddy and family were from Kingsland, GA.  I don't really know how he made it, since I never liked it. I can picture the yellow bag of cornmeal, but don't know what the rest in it was.  I think it was just that little bit of sweetness that corn naturally has.

LOL! Then I will make a hasty retreat!

My Grandma in KS did somewhat with molasses in cornbread - man was it good. I wish I could get that back, but mamma don't remember.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DCPatriot on September 12, 2017, 09:38:03 pm
I didn't see anyone suggest such a thing.  In fact, she was asked a couple of times what type of pie she likes.  ^-^

 :thud:

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 09:38:30 pm
Trump's deal with Democrats bolsters Ryan — for now

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/11/trump-democrats-paul-ryan-242526
Bizarro World...(htraE)
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 09:40:01 pm
I'm a...um.... rebel?

With?  Or without?  (a cause)

lolol

I'm not a fanatical fan of cornbread, but mostly it's nostalgic on my part.  My mom made hush puppies and hot water cornbread that I would give almost anything to have again.  Took all that for granted at the time....[sigh].


Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 12, 2017, 09:42:02 pm

Threads are like evening dinner parties,

 :silly: :silly: :silly:
I love getting old. It's a hoot. I read:

'Threads are like evening dinner panties'

Whaaat? Waidaminnit....
 :beer:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: aligncare on September 12, 2017, 09:45:17 pm
All you have to do is file a post report when you feel insulted..I guarantee you several MODs will look at it. What we don't like is when someone else reports it...we feel if it doesn't bother the person it was intended for it doesn't bother us.

Thanks for the clarification. As you know I don't often hit the button, 2–3x during the last primary only. But frankly I'd rather not be a squeaky wheel. If someone insults me (and they have) personally ignoring them (not using the ignore feature) is my preferred course of action. But, I can see where reporting the post could be more advantageous. I'll give that some consideration.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: txradioguy on September 12, 2017, 09:49:35 pm
Trump's deal with Democrats bolsters Ryan — for now

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/11/trump-democrats-paul-ryan-242526

Shocked...shocked I tell you.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 12, 2017, 09:51:10 pm
Trump's deal with Democrats bolsters Ryan — for now

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/11/trump-democrats-paul-ryan-242526

This part made me laugh: "Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and budget director Mick Mulvaney were booed when they came to Capitol Hill to plead with Republicans to support the deal."
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: aligncare on September 12, 2017, 09:52:36 pm
It's so nice to hear from you!  I hope you reconsider your decision...maybe just a little?

Yeah that's just what we need here, more people calling Trump supporters cultists. Brilliant idea for setting the right mood for a lively back and forth. Not.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 12, 2017, 09:55:33 pm
Has anyone actually seen the Republican plan?   There's a lot of disinformation out there about it....is the reason I asked.   Have you seen it?  Got link?

The link that Myst posted has some info on it, but no specifics.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 09:59:24 pm
Shocked...shocked I tell you.
Strategery 12 dimensional chess TFUTEAFU
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 10:09:15 pm
:silly: :silly: :silly:
I love getting old. It's a hoot. I read:

'Threads are like evening dinner panties'

Whaaat? Waidaminnit....
 :beer:

LMAO!   Are those the panties that your mom has all laid out for you?  (pardon Seinfeld ref)
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: ABX on September 12, 2017, 10:09:46 pm
Has anyone actually seen the Republican plan?   There's a lot of disinformation out there about it....is the reason I asked.   Have you seen it?  Got link?

Yes, you can see the proposed budget as it evolves, proposed amendments, reports, etc all on the House website.

https://budget.house.gov/budgets/fy18/

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 10:10:17 pm
The link that Myst posted has some info on it, but no specifics.

That's the problem.  No specifics.   We kinda need specifics.   :shrug:

I'm starting to get the idea that they don't want us to know.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 10:11:31 pm
Yes, you can see the proposed budget as it evolves, proposed amendments, reports, etc all on the House website.

https://budget.house.gov/budgets/fy18/

Thanks, AbaraXas!

I normally steer away from going anywhere near that site (lol)....but what the hell.

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: driftdiver on September 12, 2017, 10:11:48 pm
That's the problem.  No specifics.   We kinda need specifics.   :shrug:

I'm starting to get the idea that they don't want us to know.

@XenaLee

They don't want you to know.  Everyone else already is in on it.



 :whistle:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: ABX on September 12, 2017, 10:13:01 pm
That's the problem.  No specifics.   We kinda need specifics.   :shrug:

I'm starting to get the idea that they don't want us to know.

I think this is more of a case of if someone in the media doesn't report it, does it exist?  Just in case it was missed, here is a link, they have been very transparent on the proposed budget, amendments, reports, etc. Nothing has been secret.

https://budget.house.gov/budgets/fy18/
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 10:14:03 pm
@XenaLee

They don't want you to know.  Everyone else already is in on it.



 :whistle:

Smartass!   lol
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Silver Pines on September 12, 2017, 10:15:52 pm
@CatherineofAragon 

I luuuv me some hush puppies. A little bit of ranch... aw that's guuuud.
Sweet tea by the bucket...
And cheesy grits

They are prerequisite wrt my next marriage.
Sorry darlin, I guess it just wasn't meant to be.  :shrug:

 :beer: :seeya:

@roamer_1

Lol, love you anyway!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Sanguine on September 12, 2017, 10:23:55 pm
I'm a...um.... rebel?

Roosgirl, I make mine with stone ground corneal and it makes all the difference.  Put some fresh corn in, and possibly sharp cheddar and jalapenos, it's divine.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Sanguine on September 12, 2017, 10:26:09 pm
:silly: :silly: :silly:
I love getting old. It's a hoot. I read:

'Threads are like evening dinner panties'

Whaaat? Waidaminnit....
 :beer:

I'm not sure we want to go in the dinner panties direction.  Pie is causing enough angst as it is.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Sanguine on September 12, 2017, 10:28:12 pm
Yeah that's just what we need here, more people calling Trump supporters cultists. Brilliant idea for setting the right mood for a lively back and forth. Not.

Weren't you the one complaining about driving people away?  No pleasing some people!   :shrug:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Bigun on September 12, 2017, 10:35:46 pm
Um...well....first of all, you're calling me a NT here, and I'm not.  Never have been.  So let me correct you on that point, firstly.

Secondly, I have witnessed you insult and snark and boss (or attempt to) folks around here, including myself, since my arrival at this forum. 

So puhleeeze...... just stop with the innocent victim act/routine.  I know better.  The forum members know better. 

Here....this might help ya...


(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XuOODX0c6o8/TU_pe-lzrzI/AAAAAAAABDg/iunQkhUnXXA/s1600/wambulance_logo.jpg)

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: GtHawk on September 12, 2017, 10:38:58 pm
It's a big internet out there.  At least we don't get banned for posting an opinion that is not ass kissing Trump.

Threads are like evening dinner parties, they meander and flow in and out and change focus and the vast majority here actually LIKE the thread drift into nuts and pies - so deal with it... or not.
@INVAR
It's not like this is the first thread that went off on a tangent, nor I'm sure the last. So what's the real gripe, someone feel ignored, or hurt that their post wasn't deemed shiny enough to keep everyone focussed on it?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Bigun on September 12, 2017, 10:43:01 pm
Listen here you lintlicker, grand daddy made his cornbread in a cast iron skillet.  It most certainly was round.

PS  I hate cornbread, so I don't care.  :laugh:

That's it!  I SICK of these damned Never Cornbread people around here!  Not liking cornbread is the same is not liking God!

To hell with ALL never cornbreads!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: GtHawk on September 12, 2017, 10:45:36 pm
Trump's deal with Democrats bolsters Ryan — for now

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/11/trump-democrats-paul-ryan-242526
Hmmm, maybe they are afraid that if they change Speakers they'll end up with one that actually does his job and makes them do theirs and actually push a Conservative agenda and be responsible.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: aligncare on September 12, 2017, 10:46:36 pm
Weren't you the one complaining about driving people away?  No pleasing some people!   :shrug:

Nice flippant response. You know what I'm talking about, don't play innocent. Some people can disagree with out being disagreeable. And others can't. The poster in question, can't.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: corbe on September 12, 2017, 10:46:47 pm
   Those NC people are more of a problem than the Owner's willing to admit, they all need to be Banished away from here and back to CornbreadCentral.com where Orange is King.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 10:50:49 pm
That's it!  I SICK of these damned Never Cornbread people around here!  Not liking cornbread is the same is not liking God!

To hell with ALL never cornbreads!

Man, I hate those Never Cornbread guys!   

When there's nothing to eat but cornbread, they can all just drool!!!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on September 12, 2017, 11:00:35 pm
Now I'm feeling the pressure.
I got your back.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Sanguine on September 12, 2017, 11:14:08 pm
Nice flippant response. You know what I'm talking about, don't play innocent. Some people can disagree with out being disagreeable. And others can't. The poster in question, can't.

You just proved your point.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Bigun on September 12, 2017, 11:14:18 pm
Man, I hate those Never Cornbread guys!   

When there's nothing to eat but cornbread, they can all just drool!!!

Yeah!  They don't deserve to eat if they can't worship at the feet of cornbread! 

Letum starve!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Sanguine on September 12, 2017, 11:14:50 pm
 :beer:
I got your back.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 11:15:28 pm
Yeah!  They don't deserve to eat if they can't worship at the feet of cornbread! 

Letum starve!
Cornbread has feet?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: INVAR on September 12, 2017, 11:18:37 pm
Yeah that's just what we need here, more people calling Trump supporters cultists. Brilliant idea for setting the right mood for a lively back and forth. Not.

Oh I don't know.  One and two of your fellows who have a hate-chubbie for Cruz seem to have no problem calling his supporters cultists and Cruzaders and the like.

I'd say the mood gets set quite regularly by those who first and foremost are about the task of shaming anyone who does not genuflect your leader.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: corbe on September 12, 2017, 11:21:06 pm
   I looked up 'Naked Cornbread' cause that's who I am, cleanest I could find.

(http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i51/5/7/16/frabz-I-walk-barefoot-in-the-creek-I-love-fried-chicken-and-cornbread--e59dc8.jpg)

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 12, 2017, 11:23:00 pm
Cornbread has feet?

Tastes like feet.  Kiss my grits you EverCorners!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 11:24:14 pm
Cornbread has feet?

LMFAO!   Uhh....

good catch.   :silly:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 12, 2017, 11:24:14 pm
That's it!  I SICK of these damned Never Cornbread people around here!  Not liking cornbread is the same is not liking God!

To hell with ALL never cornbreads!

What's worse yet are the ones lifting up carrot cake and callin it cornbread.
That ain't right.  **nononono*
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 12, 2017, 11:26:00 pm
What's worse yet are the ones lifting up carrot cake and callin it cornbread.
That ain't right.  **nononono*

That's just their usual bait & switch routine.  We cornbread purists will never NEVER fall for that.

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 12, 2017, 11:31:06 pm
That's just their usual bait & switch routine.  We cornbread purists will never NEVER fall for that.

That's a fact.
But what about all those that don't know any better... They say 'cornbread'... alright... And go to dunk that carrot cake in their chili. Ya know what's gonna happen then, right? Disaster.  :thud:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Bigun on September 12, 2017, 11:31:34 pm
Cornbread has feet?

Course he does!  Size 16 IIRC!  His real name is Joe Willie Jackson but no one has ever called him that!  He's always been just plain ole Cornbread!

He's make a damned fine president to!  NO BS with Cornbread! 
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 12, 2017, 11:43:13 pm
@Cyber Liberty

Really?  I guess I haven't seen that.

That's because you don't see life through my eyes.  Nobody ever does, that's how life works.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 12, 2017, 11:56:05 pm
Tastes like feet.  Kiss my grits you EverCorners!
If it tastes like feet, mebbe you shouldn't be mixin' it in your foot soaking bowl. Just sayin'....you might be doin' it wrong.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: corbe on September 13, 2017, 12:05:08 am
   All you Briefers with foot fetishes just make me sick and ashamed to be here.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_C8d93yPNJqo/TIOglRUfJhI/AAAAAAAADK0/zmmHh4bSa-s/s1600/IMG_4639.JPG)




Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 13, 2017, 12:09:26 am
   All you Briefers with foot fetishes just make me sick and ashamed to be here.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_C8d93yPNJqo/TIOglRUfJhI/AAAAAAAADK0/zmmHh4bSa-s/s1600/IMG_4639.JPG)
Someone is using the wrong kind of corns to make bread. I'd rather eat wings than feet, more meat.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Slip18 on September 13, 2017, 12:19:45 am
That's because you don't see life through my eyes.  Nobody ever does, that's how life works.

@cyberliberty @Bigun
Did someone say "cornbread"?🌽  Yummy!  I love cornbread!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DB on September 13, 2017, 12:24:33 am
Back to the topic at hand (because I really don't want to read 15 pages of squabbling)-

Does no one find it disturbing that the 'new normal' is to assume that Democrats can handle crisis spending and management better and thus, they are the ones we must deal with for important issues?

The Republicans had a spending plan that included hurricane relief that did not give a blank check for all future spending (removing debt cap).

But here we are, now just blindly assuming the answer to any problem is government getting involved on a massive scale and spending massive amounts and handing the keys to the Democrats who are the kings at over-spending and wasting 90% of what goes in.


Somehow people's hatred of Paul Ryan is resulting in handing Nancy Pelosi the keys and assuming she is a better driver.

It seems to be the new normal for "conservatives"...
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 13, 2017, 12:28:03 am
Someone is using the wrong kind of corns to make bread. I'd rather eat wings than feet, more meat.

Those feet ain't for eatin'
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: corbe on September 13, 2017, 12:32:15 am
Nancy Sinatra - These Boots Are Made for Walkin'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbyAZQ45uww (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbyAZQ45uww)
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DCPatriot on September 13, 2017, 12:35:15 am
Oh I don't know.  One and two of your fellows who have a hate-chubbie for Cruz seem to have no problem calling his supporters cultists and Cruzaders and the like.

I'd say the mood gets set quite regularly by those who first and foremost are about the task of shaming anyone who does not genuflect your leader.

Let my posting history show that not even once, did I have a negative thing to say about Ted Cruz.

...'cept maybe once about his oily hair.

Next to Donald Trump, Ted Cruz is a mosquito bite on the forearm.  NBFD...as Biden would say.   I don't care.

But I can understand the tired and redundant argument on Cruz' eligibility, etc..  Rather stick a finger down my throat.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: roamer_1 on September 13, 2017, 12:35:34 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB8Nkn3Xjes
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 13, 2017, 12:38:34 am
It seems to be the new normal for "conservatives"...
I am a Conservative. I don't think handing the Democrats the keys to the vault is a good idea--I didn't when the last guy was in the White house.

Trump just blew it.

He had an opportunity to use the Presidential Bully Pulpit and take this to the people. He could have had a short presser, and told the American People how important this was to get relief to the people affected by hurricanes, and that as soon as the Congress quit playing games and trying to tack things onto an aid measure and passed a clean bill to fund it he'd sign it.
That would have forced all those scalywags on The Hill to put something out, or he could gig them for being a bunch of uncaring, posturing, self-interested types unworthy of reelection. Turn it on the Congress and make them jump.

Nope. He went hat in hand to the Dems, setting precedent that they could get whatever they wanted if they held some vital piece of legislation hostage.

Some deal. Some dealmaker. **nononono*
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 13, 2017, 12:43:34 am
I am a Conservative. I don't think handing the Democrats the keys to the vault is a good idea--I didn't when the last guy was in the White house.

Trump just blew it.

He had an opportunity to use the Presidential Bully Pulpit and take this to the people. He could have had a short presser, and told the American People how important this was to get relief to the people affected by hurricanes, and that as soon as the Congress quit playing games and trying to tack things onto an aid measure and passed a clean bill to fund it he'd sign it.
That would have forced all those scalywags on The Hill to put something out, or he could gig them for being a bunch of uncaring, posturing, self-interested types unworthy of reelection. Turn it on the Congress and make them jump.

Nope. He went hat in hand to the Dems, setting precedent that they could get whatever they wanted if they held some vital piece of legislation hostage.

Some deal. Some dealmaker. **nononono*

Sez so in his book, so it must be true!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DB on September 13, 2017, 12:46:21 am
I am a Conservative. I don't think handing the Democrats the keys to the vault is a good idea--I didn't when the last guy was in the White house.

Trump just blew it.

He had an opportunity to use the Presidential Bully Pulpit and take this to the people. He could have had a short presser, and told the American People how important this was to get relief to the people affected by hurricanes, and that as soon as the Congress quit playing games and trying to tack things onto an aid measure and passed a clean bill to fund it he'd sign it.
That would have forced all those scalywags on The Hill to put something out, or he could gig them for being a bunch of uncaring, posturing, self-interested types unworthy of reelection. Turn it on the Congress and make them jump.

Nope. He went hat in hand to the Dems, setting precedent that they could get whatever they wanted if they held some vital piece of legislation hostage.

Some deal. Some dealmaker. **nononono*

That's why "conservatives" is in quotes. They are conservatives in self proclaimed name only. They tell us over and over they are conservatives, more conservative than you or me, while doing these leftest things and completely clueless as to the consequences. All "to get things done"...
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 13, 2017, 12:53:44 am
That's why "conservatives" is in quotes. They are conservatives in self proclaimed name only. They tell us over and over they are conservatives, more conservative than you or me, while doing these leftest things and completely clueless as to the consequences. All "to get things done"...
Oh, okay. They are the soi disant variety (self-proclaimed). Small 'c' types. "pragmatists" Lesser evils. Gotcha.  888high58888
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 13, 2017, 12:54:51 am
Sez so in his book, so it must be true!
Truthfully, now. Did you type that with a straight face? If so, I ain't sitting down to a poker table with you!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 13, 2017, 12:57:19 am
Truthfully, now. Did you type that with a straight face? If so, I ain't sitting down to a poker table with you!

My happy face  :|
My sad face  :|
My excited face  :|
My telling a joke face :|
My friendly face  :|
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: bigheadfred on September 13, 2017, 12:58:16 am
Cornbread is cornbread. What makes the difference is the amount and type of the cornbread topping slathering.

So what it comes down to is this. Are you a slatherer?


Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DCPatriot on September 13, 2017, 01:03:59 am

That's why "conservatives" is in quotes. They are conservatives in self proclaimed name only. They tell us over and over they are conservatives, more conservative than you or me, while doing these leftest things and completely clueless as to the consequences. All "to get things done"...


I didn't realize we had to step behind the screen, 'drop trow' and measure our 'Conservatism'.

Who the hell made one such as yourself, arbiter?

While I am a staunch fiscal Conservative, today, half the country would support the government rounding us up as 'Domestic Enemies'.

Right now, the term is "Irredeemable Deplorable".   As late of today, she refused to take back that statement when given the opportunity.

Therefore, I'll put my Social Conservatism on hold and trust President Trump to prime the economic engine with attractive tax cuts and tax credits for hiring.

Some of us live in  'Realville'.   You should visit when you get the chance.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DB on September 13, 2017, 01:14:17 am
I didn't realize we had to step behind the screen, 'drop trow' and measure our 'Conservatism'.

Who the hell made one such as yourself, arbiter?

While I am a staunch fiscal Conservative, today, half the country would support the government rounding us up as 'Domestic Enemies'.

Right now, the term is "Irredeemable Deplorable".   As late of today, she refused to take back that statement when given the opportunity.

Therefore, I'll put my Social Conservatism on hold and trust President Trump to prime the economic engine with attractive tax cuts and tax credits for hiring.

Some of us live in  'Realville'.   You should visit when you get the chance.

Enjoy your 'Realville' while you can...
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: corbe on September 13, 2017, 01:18:26 am
   Realville, I was there during the McCain Campaign in 2008, Romney in 2012, slather me up, indeed, each year the GOP just keeps putting more sand in the Jar.

(http://media.musely.com/u/ca7f98be-db23-4fc1-a63a-8caeedcab650.jpg)

 
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Slip18 on September 13, 2017, 01:18:44 am
Nancy Sinatra - These Boots Are Made for Walkin'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbyAZQ45uww (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbyAZQ45uww)

@corbe

I just received a signed baseball by Dan Larsen, dated 10-8-56, with the inscription "WSPG." And it is also signed by his catcher in that game,Yogi Berra!

I also have another ball signed by Mickey Mantle,the opposing pitcher in that game.

Oops, am I on the wrong thread?  Sorry.  I don't know how to delete yet! 8888crybaby
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 13, 2017, 01:21:15 am
I have no idea how "staunch fiscal conservative" and approval of a 3 month (additional) debt ceiling deal with the democrats are reconciled.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: GtHawk on September 13, 2017, 01:26:15 am
I have no idea how "staunch fiscal conservative" and approval of a 3 month (additional) debt ceiling deal with the democrats are reconciled.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUpbOliTHJY
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: corbe on September 13, 2017, 01:30:08 am
   Naw @Slip18 your in the right Thread, just the wrong dimension, but no one around here will fault you for that, unless your a closet NT'er.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Slip18 on September 13, 2017, 01:30:42 am
   Realville, I was there during the McCain Campaign in 2008, Romney in 2012, slather me up, indeed, each year the GOP just keeps putting more sand in the Jar.

(http://media.musely.com/u/ca7f98be-db23-4fc1-a63a-8caeedcab650.jpg)

 

@corbe. Did you know that if you put about a half teaspoon of cinnamon in a tablespoon of petroleum jelly that will puff up your lips?  While waiting for the puffing to occur, you add just a tad more cinnamon to straighten everything out nicely.

Is that what you were talking about?

Or you could go to Walgreen's and pick up a stick of Mother puffer lipstick at $10 a tube!

Just being helpful about cinnamon.  Great trick!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 13, 2017, 01:32:24 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUpbOliTHJY

LOL  Great explanation!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 13, 2017, 01:33:40 am
   Naw @Slip18 your in the right Thread, just the wrong dimension, but no one around here will fault you for that, unless your a closet NT'er.

That's my baby!  She brought home a Dan Larsen baseball.  A couple of Sandy Koufax balls too.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Slip18 on September 13, 2017, 01:34:25 am
   Naw @Slip18 your in the right Thread, just the wrong dimension, but no one around here will fault you for that, unless your a closet NT'er.

LOL!  I am not a closet anything!  How very funny. I just get lost a little bit.

Now I have to find the ⚾ thread (that is so cool how the baseball shows up) and/or the lipstick thread if there is one.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Slip18 on September 13, 2017, 01:36:20 am
That's my baby!  She brought home a Dan Larsen baseball.  A couple of Sandy Koufax balls too.

@cybertyliberty

I kinda like balls, ya know?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: corbe on September 13, 2017, 01:39:42 am
                                  *****Public Service Announcement****** 

I regret to inform my fellow Briefers that this Thread has hit the 'critical zone', at 20 pages it is about everything except the following:
    1: Any references to Nazism
    2. The inadequacies of Trump's physical appearance
    3. Cruz's Ineligibility
    4. How the Mods screw everything up

     Again, Carry on.

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 13, 2017, 01:39:57 am
My happy face  :|
My sad face  :|
My excited face  :|
My telling a joke face :|
My friendly face  :|
Dang. You're the type of gal who could bluff the table with a 7 high hand.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 13, 2017, 01:40:16 am
@cybertyliberty

I kinda like balls, ya know?

Y'all are starting to creep me out.  I didn't think @Slip18 and @Cyber Liberty would be the members who made me wish I had not accepted the invitation to come here.  ;)
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 13, 2017, 01:43:16 am
I didn't realize we had to step behind the screen, 'drop trow' and measure our 'Conservatism'.

Who the hell made one such as yourself, arbiter?

While I am a staunch fiscal Conservative, today, half the country would support the government rounding us up as 'Domestic Enemies'.

Right now, the term is "Irredeemable Deplorable".   As late of today, she refused to take back that statement when given the opportunity.

Therefore, I'll put my Social Conservatism on hold and trust President Trump to prime the economic engine with attractive tax cuts and tax credits for hiring.

Some of us live in  'Realville'.   You should visit when you get the chance.
Realville? Is that next to Georgetown?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 13, 2017, 01:44:10 am
Y'all are starting to creep me out.  I didn't think @Slip18 and @Cyber Liberty would be the members who made me wish I had not accepted the invitation to come here.  ;)
You think that's bad, think about poor Sandy Koufax...she got both of 'em.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 13, 2017, 01:44:19 am
                                  *****Public Service Announcement****** 

I regret to inform my fellow Briefers that this Thread has hit the 'critical zone', at 20 pages it is about everything except the following:
    1: Any references to Nazism
    2. The inadequacies of Trump's physical appearance
    3. Cruz's Ineligibility
    4. How the Mods screw everything up

     Again, Carry on.

What's that?

(http://assets.bubblear.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/27174638/trumpgolf.jpg)
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: corbe on September 13, 2017, 01:49:38 am
   I can see why he doesn't wear big belt buckles. @RoosGirl  but we're severely off topic and will be reprimanded if you persist.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: endicom on September 13, 2017, 02:00:04 am

I also have another ball signed by Mickey Mantle,the opposing pitcher in that game.


Uhhh...
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: bigheadfred on September 13, 2017, 02:09:34 am
Tell me @Smokin Joe how you would react if Trump got on TV and told you that Congress is  a bunch of uncaring, posturing, self-interested types unworthy of reelection?

I get your point and all. I don't need him to tell me how worthless Congress is. It is all burlesque.

They are going to continue spending spending spending. There is no ceiling. Only ever widening cracks in the floor.

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 13, 2017, 02:12:05 am

Uhhh...

I tease her so much...  :laugh:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Victoria33 on September 13, 2017, 02:14:08 am
I've a been a personal target of the NTs for two years. 
@Right_in_Virginia

No, you win the prize for being the absolute worst, the absolutely smallest, absolutely no value, attacker on this planet.  You revel in joy when you "snarkingly" cut people down.  That ability doesn't make you look smart, which you crave, it makes you detestable to others.

@CatherineofAragon
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DB on September 13, 2017, 02:14:27 am
@cybertyliberty

I kinda like balls, ya know?

If you were serious, they'd be tattooed...
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: bigheadfred on September 13, 2017, 02:15:24 am
I wonder how many rich and famous balls adorn Pelosi's collection?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: bigheadfred on September 13, 2017, 02:17:17 am
@Right_in_Virginia

No, you win the prize for being the absolute worst, the absolutely smallest, absolutely no value, attacker on this planet.  You revel in joy when you "snarkingly" cut people down.  That ability doesn't make you look smart, which you crave, it makes you detestable to others.

@CatherineofAragon

Whut??? She gives me compliments all the time.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: DB on September 13, 2017, 02:18:20 am
                                  *****Public Service Announcement****** 

I regret to inform my fellow Briefers that this Thread has hit the 'critical zone', at 20 pages it is about everything except the following:
    1: Any references to Nazism
    2. The inadequacies of Trump's physical appearance
    3. Cruz's Ineligibility
    4. How the Mods screw everything up

     Again, Carry on.

You lack balance... You have 5 on the left and 6 on the right... You obviously tilt to the right...
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 13, 2017, 02:21:54 am
@Right_in_Virginia

No, you win the prize for being the absolute worst, the absolutely smallest, absolutely no value, attacker on this planet.  You revel in joy when you "snarkingly" cut people down.  That ability doesn't make you look smart, which you crave, it makes you detestable to others.

@CatherineofAragon

 *****rollingeyes*****
Yeah, that's about the size of it. 

 888high58888
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 13, 2017, 02:39:13 am
@Right_in_Virginia

No, you win the prize for being the absolute worst, the absolutely smallest, absolutely no value, attacker on this planet.  You revel in joy when you "snarkingly" cut people down.  That ability doesn't make you look smart, which you crave, it makes you detestable to others.

@CatherineofAragon

A little late to the party, but you made a hell of an entrance.   888high58888

I give it two schwings.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 13, 2017, 02:51:22 am
A little late to the party, but you made a hell of an entrance.   888high58888

I give it two schwings.

Two Schwings:

(https://scontent.fphx1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21432746_1563335567038026_1866181145640986035_n.jpg?oh=ba0a2c0c25f29a272063cfbf47cf9a17&oe=5A5A6587)
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Silver Pines on September 13, 2017, 02:55:01 am
What's that?

(http://assets.bubblear.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/27174638/trumpgolf.jpg)

Why?  WHY?
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: RoosGirl on September 13, 2017, 02:57:23 am
Why?  WHY?

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 13, 2017, 03:56:55 am
What's that?

(http://assets.bubblear.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/27174638/trumpgolf.jpg)

http://cdn.viral-kittens.com/m/gifs/955.mp4
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Suppressed on September 13, 2017, 08:31:18 am
http://cdn.viral-kittens.com/m/gifs/955.mp4

 :silly:
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Silver Pines on September 13, 2017, 02:12:18 pm
@Right_in_Virginia

No, you win the prize for being the absolute worst, the absolutely smallest, absolutely no value, attacker on this planet.  You revel in joy when you "snarkingly" cut people down.  That ability doesn't make you look smart, which you crave, it makes you detestable to others.

@CatherineofAragon

@Victoria33

Add to that the absolute most childish and most over-sensitive.  She sends repeated "stop pinging me" messages when you respond to her posts...and blocks you so you can't respond, lol.

Reminds me of the "do not talk to me" notes we passed in third grade.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 13, 2017, 02:25:50 pm
@Victoria33

Add to that the absolute most childish and most over-sensitive.  She sends repeated "stop pinging me" messages when you respond to her posts...and blocks you so you can't respond, lol.

Reminds me of the "do not talk to me" notes we passed in third grade.

Lol.....ironic, considering that I previously repeatedly asked her to put me on perma-ignore...and she never would.  So now.... I'm "all in" with the mayhem that will ensue.   ^-^  Embrace the suck and the madness!
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Silver Pines on September 13, 2017, 02:28:48 pm
Savaged is appropriate @XenaLee ... I've a been a personal target of the NTs for two years.  I keep waiting for y'all to stand down because you must know by now..... you can't kill this messenger.   ^-^


Thanks for the gracious defense @DCPatriot

@Right_in_Virginia

Oh, BS.  How did you react to my private suggestion that you be less condescending and more natural?  You screamed like a lunatic and called me a bitter, mean witch, lol.  Then when I thought, well, maybe I should apologize, you refused to accept it because you "knew" it was phony. 

I'll make a good faith attempt to get along with anyone, but it's not possible with you.  You've put up some kind of persona that you think makes you appear superior and razor-edge sarcastic.  Anyone who sees through it gets blasted by your meltdown. 

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Silver Pines on September 13, 2017, 02:31:00 pm
Lol.....ironic, considering that I previously repeatedly asked her to put me on perma-ignore...and she never would.  So now.... I'm "all in" with the mayhem that will ensue.   ^-^  Embrace the suck and the madness!

@XenaLee

Have you noticed that "embrace the suck" is appropriate for so many situations, lol.

That's what the ignore key is for.  I'll respond to posts as I see fit.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 13, 2017, 02:35:44 pm
Lol.....ironic, considering that I previously repeatedly asked her to put me on perma-ignore...and she never would.  So now.... I'm "all in" with the mayhem that will ensue.   ^-^  Embrace the suck and the madness!
"Embrace the suck" is a phrase I have used, too.  888high58888
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: XenaLee on September 13, 2017, 02:56:41 pm
@XenaLee

Have you noticed that "embrace the suck" is appropriate for so many situations, lol.

That's what the ignore key is for.  I'll respond to posts as I see fit.

Oh most definitely, I've noticed.  So very fitting.   ^-^
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: ABX on September 13, 2017, 03:10:25 pm
Enjoy your 'Realville' while you can...


I live in realville, I have to go along with massive increases in spending....

I live in realville, I have to go along with accepting government run healthcare....

I live in realville, I have to give up many of my rights to be secure....

I live in realville, I must accept that guns are dangerous and I should give mine up so they don't fall into the wrong hands....

I live in realville, I must accept government restrictions on my speech so as to not offend anyone....

I live in realville, I must acknowledge the danger of global climate change and my impact to it and allow the government to restrict what I do for the sake of the children....

I live in realville, I must give up all that I believe and trust the government to fix all my problems....



At some point, we are going to find 'realville' looks a whole lot like A Brave New World.
Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 13, 2017, 03:23:49 pm
@Victoria33

Add to that the absolute most childish and most over-sensitive.  She sends repeated "stop pinging me" messages when you respond to her posts...and blocks you so you can't respond, lol.

@CatherineofAragon   You agreed to move on and leave me alone.  A request that came about after you jettisoned all ethics and posted a PM I'd sent to you (you know, the one @Victoria33 so cleverly quoted back to me a few posts up).  And Vicky, dear ... be relieved I have respect for my elders.

There's nothing childish or sensitive about expecting someone to keep his or her word.  It's time for you dear CathyofArrogant to show some self-respect and honor your promise to limit your dissection of me to your PM club meetings and maintain your posts to me at zero.

And, please, let this be the last time this will need to be addressed.

Title: Re: Irma’s wrath confirms Trump’s wisdom in cutting that deal with Democrats
Post by: mystery-ak on September 13, 2017, 03:30:02 pm
this thread is closed