The Briefing Room
General Category => Sports/Entertainment/MSM/Social Media => Topic started by: DCPatriot on January 24, 2020, 05:35:35 pm
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Just finished watching this yesterday.
Would love to discuss with fellow Briefers, but it's impossible without spoilers.
Secondly, the last thing we need is another religious disagreement. wink777
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(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjLWuzGVyew#)
Just finished watching this yesterday.
Would love to discuss with fellow Briefers, but it's impossible without spoilers.
Secondly, the last thing we need is another religious disagreement. wink777
Been fixin to @DCPatriot ... Haven't quite steeled myself enough going in, knowing the heresy I will most certainly be watching... But you've pushed me into it. I will binge it this weekend and get back to you...
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If you can get by the lead female character 'Eva' who has far too many, long close-ups to convey whatever mood she's in. ARRGH!!
She was the co-star in the British TV series, 'LUTHER', starring Idris Elba. She played a high IQ cunning killer and he a detective ...great with a surprise ending.
Anyway, the story is compelling to the point you disregard the artistically weak intrusion.
IMO, the casting is superb.
You'll find that Al-Masih, no matter his motives, is a Good Man.
But, now I can't wait to talk with you about it, @roamer_1 :laugh:
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:beer:
Anyway, the story is compelling to the point you disregard the artistically weak intrusion.
IMO, the casting is superb.
You'll find that Al-Masih, no matter his motives, is a Good Man.
But, now I can't wait to talk with you about it, @roamer_1 :laugh:
@DCPatriot
Thanks for that analysis... It helps that you appreciate the structure. Now I am looking forward to sitting down with it...
However, I am still going in with a jaundiced eye - the plot and the title being fodder enough to get on my radar for critical analysis as a Christian... So I dare say that I will not be able to engage without the religious aspect. be ready for that, I reckon. But then, I suppose you would expect it. :laugh:
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but it's impossible without spoilers.
Spoilers? Does it have a shocking and unpopular ending like GOT?
:shrug:
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Spoilers? Does it have a shocking and unpopular ending like GOT?
:shrug:
Nevermind. I hadn't watched the trailer before posting and thought was "Messiah TOS" and not "Messiah II"
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@DCPatriot
Thanks for that analysis... It helps that you appreciate the structure. Now I am looking forward to sitting down with it...
However, I am still going in with a jaundiced eye - the plot and the title being fodder enough to get on my radar for critical analysis as a Christian... So I dare say that I will not be able to engage without the religious aspect. be ready for that, I reckon. But then, I suppose you would expect it. :laugh:
@roamer_1
Ahhhh....you may be [pleasantly] surprised! :laugh:
Transcends established religions.
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Spoilers? Does it have a shocking and unpopular ending like GOT?
:shrug:
You know, I still have not watched the final season of GOT... Largely because I don't want to spoil it, because the spoilers have told me it will...
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Nevermind. I hadn't watched the trailer before posting and thought was "Messiah TOS" and not "Messiah II"
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@Neverdul
I'm afraid it's your destiny that you've posted on this thread. :yowsa:
wink777
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@roamer_1
Ahhhh....you may be [pleasantly] surprised! :laugh:
Transcends established religions.
@DCPatriot
Well now my curiosity is piqued... Though I doubt I will agree with that. happy77
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@DCPatriot
Well now my curiosity is piqued... Though I doubt I will agree with that. happy77
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You know, I still have not watched the final season of GOT... Largely because I don't want to spoil it, because the spoilers have told me it will...
IMO, it wasn't that bad. Yes it did seem a bit rushed with too many stories archs forced to a conclusion, might have benefited from a few more episoudes, but the ending story arch, with the dragon lady, well we did see she had both a good side and a very dark side and there was some foreshadowing in previous seasons that indicated it was a crap shoot which way she would go.
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IMO, it wasn't that bad. Yes it did seem a bit rushed with too many stories archs forced to a conclusion, might have benefited from a few more episoudes, but the ending story arch, with the dragon lady, well we did see she had both a good side and a very dark side and there was some foreshadowing in previous seasons that indicated it was a crap shoot which way she would go.
Yeah... Pretty much every character had a good and bad side... So that much was inevitable, no matter which way... :shrug:
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Alright @DCPatriot ... I did it. Half last night (way to late, couldn't put it down), half today.
Cinematic-ally, Pretty good.
Good character development. Decent at the story - Although too many cross-overs/flashbacks to suit me. Found that confusing, especially where characters were similar... But navigable.
Story line was alright - Several plot devices were pretty stretched... An example: A guy walks on water, unplanned, in front of witnesses and on national tv is pretty dang hard to deny. Yet deny they did - very contrived in construction.
Will I watch a next season? Yes, I probably would.
I'll lead with that, and save the religious critique and social-shaping for later.
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Spoilers? Does it have a shocking and unpopular ending like GOT?
:shrug:
The ending was left open for series two. I kinda liked the show and I kinda didn’t. I don’t know what to make of it without spoilers, but I hope my questions would be answered in series two.
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The ending was left open for series two. I kinda liked the show and I kinda didn’t. I don’t know what to make of it without spoilers, but I hope my questions would be answered in series two.
That's right... Me too. :beer:
The religious aspect is really the bender... In prophecy, it is mainly Koranic, with a nod at Judaism, though they (the Jews) remain godless unbelievers... and pretty much a snub at Christians, who wind up easily duped... It doesn't really work in the Christian aspect unless the guy is antichrist... Yeshua said he will not be back until he comes in glory, with all the angels of heaven with him...
In the story line, he could still be Isa (the Koranic Jesus)/Messiah, or Dijal...
In the Judaic sense, he is not of David, so cannot be anything but a false prophet or Abaddon...
In the Christian sense, if his feet are touching the ground, he can't be Messiah... And must be a false prophet or the antichrist.
How they continue in the second season is a curiosity.
:seeya:
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All I will say is by the second episode I was hooked and I binged the entire show in one night. And yes, I do hope there is a second season.
I also liked (no spoiler) the little Israeli girl who called her father “Abba.†I remember learning that word in Hebrew school. It made me smile.
No one has brought up it was done by Mark Burdett and his wife Roma Downey.
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:beer:
If you can get by the lead female character 'Eva' who has far too many, long close-ups to convey whatever mood she's in. ARRGH!!
She was the co-star in the British TV series, 'LUTHER', starring Idris Elba. She played a high IQ cunning killer and he a detective ...great with a surprise ending.
@DCPatriot
ALICE!
I am going to go out on a limb here,and guess that Alice wasn't a well-balanced individual. Luther recognized this,and was smart enough to be scared of her.
"Luther" was one of the most entertaining series I ever watched. The British sure know how to produce good drama/crime stories.
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@DCPatriot
ALICE!
I am going to go out on a limb here,and guess that Alice wasn't a well-balanced individual. Luther recognized this,and was smart enough to be scared of her.
"Luther" was one of the most entertaining series I ever watched. The British sure know how to produce good drama/crime stories.
@sneakypete
Exactly!! "Alice"! Loved that series, and she was great!
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You know, I still have not watched the final season of GOT... Largely because I don't want to spoil it, because the spoilers have told me it will...
@roamer_1
Watch it. IMNSHO,most of the criticism of the ending was due to it BEING the ending. How the HELL can you have an ending to one of the most popular series in history,and have it please people? The only "ending" that could have done that would have been a surprise ending saying it WASN'T ending.
We all have our biases. With me,mythology is one of the big ones. Humanity is perfectly capable of providing all the evil ever needed all by themselves,so dragons,Satan,etc,etc,etc were never needed. If I had of had any idea there was going to be dragons,I would have never even started watching GoT. By the time the white-haired hottie and her pet dragons showed up and started lighting the bad guys up,I was shouting "Go dragons!" at my teebee screen.
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Yeah... Pretty much every character had a good and bad side... So that much was inevitable, no matter which way... :shrug:
@roamer_1
Kinda like real people.
Except for me,of course. Everything peaches and cream here.
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No one has brought up it was done by Mark Burdett and his wife Roma Downey.
@Gefn
Is that a good thing,or a bad thing? The woman's name is vaguely familiar.
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@Gefn
Is that a good thing,or a bad thing? The woman's name is vaguely familiar.
She was on “touched by an Angelâ€. I know she’s very religious. She and hubby did s show on tv a few years ago called “The Bibleâ€, for the History Channel and she played Mary.
She’s a good actress imho.
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Watch it. IMNSHO,most of the criticism of the ending was due to it BEING the ending. How the HELL can you have an ending to one of the most popular series in history,and have it please people? The only "ending" that could have done that would have been a surprise ending saying it WASN'T ending.
@sneakypete
Yeah a lot of it is about the end being too compressed I guess. Which ought to be expected in TV shows. Should be happy that they got enough warning to DO an ending.
Jericho was like that... found out they was leaving, and hustled a pretty piss-poor end.
We all have our biases. With me,mythology is one of the big ones. Humanity is perfectly capable of providing all the evil ever needed all by themselves,so dragons,Satan,etc,etc,etc were never needed. If I had of had any idea there was going to be dragons,I would have never even started watching GoT. By the time the white-haired hottie and her pet dragons showed up and started lighting the bad guys up,I was shouting "Go dragons!" at my teebee screen.
Me, I am the other way... A good portion of my life has been spent looking at the unseen. If we were sitting on the porch, I could probably go deep into the night in analysis of all the occult prophecies contained in GOT... And all the things within that are found in history... That is a seriously occultic show.
What you see as myth, I see as history. Dragons at least were, if not living still... As recorded by military men like yourself who battled them. I am not inclined to discount their testimony merely on the basis of the sophistry of modernity. To do so would discount all of history, as is done nowdays on the altar of science.
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She was on “touched by an Angelâ€. I know she’s very religious. She and hubby did s show on tv a few years ago called “The Bibleâ€, for the History Channel and she played Mary.
She’s a good actress imho.
@Gefn
Thanks. I know I must have seen and liked her in something because I vaguely remember her name,and remember nothing negative being connected to her. When I despise people,I remember why.
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@sneakypete
Yeah a lot of it is about the end being too compressed I guess. Which ought to be expected in TV shows. Should be happy that they got enough warning to DO an ending.
Jericho was like that... found out they was leaving, and hustled a pretty piss-poor end.
Yeah,that sort of thing drives me nuts,and IMHO,shows the lack of professionalism of the writers and producers. They already have their checks,and are just too trifling to put out the effort to send their "child" off into the world with the love it deserves.
Me, I am the other way... A good portion of my life has been spent looking at the unseen. If we were sitting on the porch, I could probably go deep into the night in analysis of all the occult prophecies contained in GOT... And all the things within that are found in history... That is a seriously occultic show.
There may be new "tools" in this world,but there are no new stories. Just new twists to old stories.
What you see as myth, I see as history. Dragons at least were, if not living still... As recorded by military men like yourself who battled them.
I see mythical creatures like dragons as a method of putting a label on the fears you don't understand,and there was very little understanding of nature/creation by mankind prior to the 18th Century,so they just described their fears the best they could,as living creatures.
I am temped to write the accepted "they were so ignorant they actually thought the world was flat and they could sail off the end.",but anybody that has ever put to sea in a boat knows that is a lie,and always has. Since coastal trade ships were the biggest method of trade supply even back then,I am at a loss trying to figure out how THAT myth became accepted as truth. Anybody that has ever been at sea,no matter how lacking in education,HAS to recognize the Earth is round when they keep seeing familiar sea ports just suddenly "pop into view". Still,the powers that be,primarily the Royalty and the Priests taught the Earth was flat,so only a fool argued with them.
I am not inclined to discount their testimony merely on the basis of the sophistry of modernity. To do so would discount all of history, as is done nowdays on the altar of science.
I will take science over mythology EVERY time.
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You know, I still have not watched the final season of GOT... Largely because I don't want to spoil it, because the spoilers have told me it will...
Never seen an episode of GOT, as I am way to cheap to pay for HBO. Wonder how much longer until it makes it to Netflix or Amazon Prime?
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Never seen an episode of GOT, as I am way to cheap to pay for HBO. Wonder how much longer until it makes it to Netflix or Amazon Prime?
Geez d00d... You need a lesson in innernetz... *cough* putlocker *cough* happy77
If you want it, it's out there... But you gotta know the right places. And have good antivirus. :laugh:
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Never seen an episode of GOT, as I am way to cheap to pay for HBO. Wonder how much longer until it makes it to Netflix or Amazon Prime?
@catfish1957
8 Ways to Watch HBO for Free (or for Less)
Sign Up for an HBO Free Trial on Hulu. ...
Sign Up for a Free Trial of Amazon Prime. ...
Sign Up for a Free PlayStation Vue Trial. ...
Call Your Cable Provider. ...
Watch Free Episodes on HBO. ...
Watch Free Clips on YouTube. ...
Use Select AT&T Unlimited Plans. ...
Find HBO Discounts via DirecTV Now.
Free trials generally last for 7 days,and you can easily watch 2 seasons a week and by then know if you think it is worth $15 a month to watch all 8 seasons,plus the other excellent shows on HBO.
OR......,if you are seriously that cheap,and you need to be seeing someone about your emotional problems if you are,you can easily do 2 seasons for free on the free Hulu trial,2 seasons for free on the Amazon Prime free trial,etc,etc,etc.
GoT is right up there with the best stuff ever broadcast,and 15 bucks a month for HBO is a steal. Hell,it would cost you more than that to go to a movie.
Easiest way to keep a check on free upcoming broadcasts,as well as to watch literally thousands of free movies and tv shows is to buy a ROKU so you can stream video and audio. The newer ROKU's even have a voice search button on the remote,so any time you want to check and see if something is playing for free or for cheap,just speak "Game of Thrones" into the remote,and it will list all streaming channels on the planet that are broadcasting that particular show,and list them in order from free to low dollar,to high dollar.
Deadwood and Justified are other killer shows you will enjoy watching if you go with Amazon Prime,which really offers the best bang for your buck.
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@catfish1957
8 Ways to Watch HBO for Free (or for Less)
Sign Up for an HBO Free Trial on Hulu. ...
Sign Up for a Free Trial of Amazon Prime. ...
Sign Up for a Free PlayStation Vue Trial. ...
Call Your Cable Provider. ...
Watch Free Episodes on HBO. ...
Watch Free Clips on YouTube. ...
Use Select AT&T Unlimited Plans. ...
Find HBO Discounts via DirecTV Now.
Free trials generally last for 7 days,and you can easily watch 2 seasons a week and by then know if you think it is worth $15 a month to watch all 8 seasons,plus the other excellent shows on HBO.
OR......,if you are seriously that cheap,and you need to be seeing someone about your emotional problems if you are,you can easily do 2 seasons for free on the free Hulu trial,2 seasons for free on the Amazon Prime free trial,etc,etc,etc.
GoT is right up there with the best stuff ever broadcast,and 15 bucks a month for HBO is a steal. Hell,it would cost you more than that to go to a movie.
@sneakypete
I have Amazon Prime, and it shows a per episode cost.
As far as being an emotional problem, realize that I have a significant Scottish ancestry, and by stereotype we are the 2nd cheapest people on earth. And to the point of going to a movie for $15... I haven't been to one in nearly 15 years for the same reason. I'll be patient, and wait for it to stream as part of service under Netflix or Amazon Prime. Or find a friend who will let me borrow their DVD's. :silly:
And to the point of the free trials.... I've got burnt a few times, by said service not allowing me, or making it painstakingly difficult to cancel.
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Geez d00d... You need a lesson in innernetz... *cough* putlocker *cough* happy77
If you want it, it's out there... But you gotta know the right places. And have good antivirus. :laugh:
@roamer_1
Just not with the hassle or the risk when you can pretty much watch everything ever broadcast with a ROKU,a netscape account,and a Amazon Prime account. The Amazon Prime account is even free when you consider you save more on shipping and purchases over a year than the yearly cost,and that isn't even taking into consideration the free movies and tv series you get to watch.
Amazon Prime is $119 bucks a year or $12.99 per month,and on top of all the free movies and tv shows,you get free priority shipping on everything you buy from amazon.
Netflix is $12.99 per month/$155.88 per year.
Roku is $8.99 per month/$107.88 per year
So,for a grand total of $282.76 per year you get pretty much everything and anything worth watching delivered to your home via wi-fi instead of a sat dish or cable tv,and you never have to worry about losing signals in snow or rain,or paying for channels you never want to watch.
Which is what,maybe 2 trips to a grocery store for a family?
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I was on Netflix, Amazon from near the beginning.
I have enjoyed several multi-episode offerings.
But even with the best, I get bored after a few episodes.
Breaking Bad. Bad. House of Cards.
So a few nights ago I started Messiah, but after 15 minutes decided I could not go 12 episodes of it.
My ideal is a series with about 2 up to 6 episodes, max.
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@sneakypete
I have Amazon Prime, and it shows a per episode cost.
I stand corrected. I get my own HBO Now through amazon prime because it's easier for me to click in the link there than find it elsewhere.
As far as being an emotional problem, realize that I have a significant Scottish ancestry, and by stereotype we are the 2nd cheapest people on earth. And to the point of going to a movie for $15..
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I am half-Scots/Irish and half Greek,so I feel your pain.
I haven't been to one in nearly 15 years for the same reason.
The last time I went to a movie I ended up choking out a black guy that seemed to think he could run his mouth at me and make threats with no consequences. Bad choice for him,and since I wasn't sure he was still breathing by the time it came to me that I was choking the MF out,I had to leave the movie before the lights came up. The only movie I have been to since then was that S3D Sci Fi movie with 7 feet tall women with tails that could fly on dragons,and I made damn sure it was a movie located in a white area. I am hard of hearing,and the GD black hollering at their homies on the other side of the theater and giving shout outs to the actors on the screen make it impossible for me to hear what is going on. If that makes me racist,tell somebody that gives a shit,because I don't. I just VERY POLITELY asked the guy sitting in front of me if he could keep down the shout-outs because I couldn't hear what the actors were saying,and I got hit with "honkey M*F" and the beginning of some threats,and when it came to me what was happening,he was already unconscious and it was time for me to leave. Technically,I could have stayed because I had a gun with me to keep the homies away,but I decided the wise thing to do was to leave.
I did look in the local paper for several days to see if a dead guy was found at a local movie,and as the old saying goes,"No news is good news!",so we both lucked out on that one. I learned the lesson that I needed to stop going to local movies,and I am hoping he learned a lesson,also.
I'll be patient, and wait for it to stream as part of service under Netflix or Amazon Prime. Or find a friend who will let me borrow their DVD's. :silly:
I ain't going to say I am a fan of GoT,but I bought the 10 book sealed set after watching the first episode,and they are still sealed in cellophane and will remain sealed until after I watch every season again. THEN I will read them.
Subscribe to HBO Now and Netflix,get a ROKU for all the free stuff,and you will have instant access to anything worth watching 24/7.
I personally choose to allow my pay subscriptions to be paid by ROKU,and then have ROKU bill Pay Pal to minimize the risk of putting my checking account or credit card numbers into too many hands. Then again,I also use a different screen name and password for each account I have,too. Even the free ones.
To me,this one pay source and monthly bill from ROKU alone is worth the $8.99 per month I pay them. MUCH easier for me to keep track of how much money is going where this way,as well as less danger of my checking account or credit card being hacked. Probably the easiest thing to do is just use your Amazon Prime CC as the billing source for all your subscriptions. Pay it every month and there is no interest charged,so you have all your eggs in one basket you can easily keep an eye on.
BTW,just noticed that season 1 of "Homeland" is now free on Amazon Prime,and it is probably the best spy series ever produced. Season 8 is the final season,and IIRC,it will start airing in Feb. I am like a kid at Christmas waiting for it to air.
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I stand corrected. I get my own HBO Now through amazon prime because it's easier for me to click in the link there than find it elsewhere.
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I am half-Scots/Irish and half Greek,so I feel your pain.
The last time I went to a movie I ended up choking out a black guy that seemed to think he could run his mouth at me and make threats with no consequences. Bad choice for him,and since I wasn't sure he was still breathing by the time it came to me that I was choking the MF out,I had to leave the movie before the lights came up. The only movie I have been to since then was that S3D Sci Fi movie with 7 feet tall women with tails that could fly on dragons,and I made damn sure it was a movie located in a white area. I am hard of hearing,and the GD black hollering at their homies on the other side of the theater and giving shout outs to the actors on the screen make it impossible for me to hear what is going on. If that makes me racist,tell somebody that gives a shit,because I don't. I just VERY POLITELY asked the guy sitting in front of me if he could keep down the shout-outs because I couldn't hear what the actors were saying,and I got hit with "honkey M*F" and the beginning of some threats,and when it came to me what was happening,he was already unconscious and it was time for me to leave. Technically,I could have stayed because I had a gun with me to keep the homies away,but I decided the wise thing to do was to leave.
I did look in the local paper for several days to see if a dead guy was found at a local movie,and as the old saying goes,"No news is good news!",so we both lucked out on that one. I learned the lesson that I needed to stop going to local movies,and I am hoping he learned a lesson,also.
I ain't going to say I am a fan of GoT,but I bought the 10 book sealed set after watching the first episode,and they are still sealed in cellophane and will remain sealed until after I watch every season again. THEN I will read them.
Subscribe to HBO Now and Netflix,get a ROKU for all the free stuff,and you will have instant access to anything worth watching 24/7.
I personally choose to allow my pay subscriptions to be paid by ROKU,and then have ROKU bill Pay Pal to minimize the risk of putting my checking account or credit card numbers into too many hands. Then again,I also use a different screen name and password for each account I have,too. Even the free ones.
To me,this one pay source and monthly bill from ROKU alone is worth the $8.99 per month I pay them. MUCH easier for me to keep track of how much money is going where this way,as well as less danger of my checking account or credit card being hacked. Probably the easiest thing to do is just use your Amazon Prime CC as the billing source for all your subscriptions. Pay it every month and there is no interest charged,so you have all your eggs in one basket you can easily keep an eye on.
BTW,just noticed that season 1 of "Homeland" is now free on Amazon Prime,and it is probably the best spy series ever produced. Season 8 is the final season,and IIRC,it will start airing in Feb. I am like a kid at Christmas waiting for it to air.
@sneakypete
I'm not paying anything for my Roku, but it pretty much is just a gateway for access to my Netflix, Amazon, and Sling (Which is not too bad a cable alternative for $30./mo....... Sadly, I have to watch Oak Island on History CH).
Thanks for heads up on Homeland. Have enjoyed the Jack Ryan stuff, but this sounds like it might be better.
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@sneakypete
I'm not paying anything for my Roku, but it pretty much is just a gateway for access to my Netflix, Amazon, and Sling (Which is not too bad a cable alternative for $30./mo....... Sadly, I have to watch Oak Island on History CH).
Thanks for heads up on Homeland. Have enjoyed the Jack Ryan stuff, but this sounds like it might be better.
@catfish1957
Hands down,the best spy thriller series I have ever seen. The redheaded British actor that plays the role of the Marine does an amazing job of pulling it off and making you believe it.
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@sneakypete
I'm not paying anything for my Roku, but it pretty much is just a gateway for access to my Netflix, Amazon, and Sling (Which is not too bad a cable alternative for $30./mo....... Sadly, I have to watch Oak Island on History CH).
Thanks for heads up on Homeland. Have enjoyed the Jack Ryan stuff, but this sounds like it might be better.
BTW,the ROKU channel costs $8.99 per month,but offers free shows + pay shows,just like Amazon Prime,Netflix,etc,etc,etc. You might want to look at what they offer for that money,and spot a couple of things you like that you are not already getting.
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Just not with the hassle or the risk [...]
@sneakypete
Not the point. I'm stickin it to the man.
Besides, I know what I am doing. Haven't had a bug in years and years, so risk is nonexistent.
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@sneakypete
Not the point. I'm stickin it to the man.
Besides, I know what I am doing. Haven't had a bug in years and years, so risk is nonexistent.
@roamer_1
Maybe it works for you,but it IS work for those of us who are not computer pros.
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@roamer_1
Maybe it works for you,but it IS work for those of us who are not computer pros.
@sneakypete
*shrugs* I think it is more along the lines of generational ignorance... most any 20 something knows the same thing... And no commercials or ads too... ever.
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Yeah,that sort of thing drives me nuts,and IMHO,shows the lack of professionalism of the writers and producers. They already have their checks,and are just too trifling to put out the effort to send their "child" off into the world with the love it deserves.
Yeah... I kinda get it... The money drops out of under it and they get a couple months to wrap it up... So they do the best they can to wrap up the loose ends... I hate it too - But not as much as I hate it when they just cut it off...
There may be new "tools" in this world,but there are no new stories. Just new twists to old stories.
More than you could possibly know.
I see mythical creatures like dragons as a method of putting a label on the fears you don't understand,and there was very little understanding of nature/creation by mankind prior to the 18th Century,so they just described their fears the best they could,as living creatures.
I think that is that modern sophistry talkin right there. And I think we know less than our grandfathers did about nature/creation. We are almost wholly divorced from it. They lived right in the middle of it every day.
Me, I think an after-action report by a military man is recognizable no matter how many centuries are in between. And I am not so quick to discount testimony as ignorance from a mind every bit as good as my own.
I am temped to write the accepted "they were so ignorant they actually thought the world was flat and they could sail off the end.",but anybody that has ever put to sea in a boat knows that is a lie,and always has. Since coastal trade ships were the biggest method of trade supply even back then,I am at a loss trying to figure out how THAT myth became accepted as truth. Anybody that has ever been at sea,no matter how lacking in education,HAS to recognize the Earth is round when they keep seeing familiar sea ports just suddenly "pop into view". Still,the powers that be,primarily the Royalty and the Priests taught the Earth was flat,so only a fool argued with them.
That is a rather medieval European view on things historic. What came before the dark ages is almost unknown... But with a wider view, you would know that the truth is far more than that - Great navigators have been around the world nearly from the beginning. There are ancient Sumerian artifacts found on the western shores of the Americas - That is as early as it gets. The Chinese went everywhere, as did the Phoenicians, long, long before the galleons of Europe ever graced the waves.
So much is glossed over and ignored, or outright fabricated to support the illusion of 'modern man' that any real knowledge of history would make you scoff too... And yet, with all our supposed vast knowledge, and all our superior tooling, we can hardly move the smallest stones used in ancient cyclopean construction, not to mention transport them miles... As was obviously done. Ancient steel does not rust - and we don't know why. Spend a little time with artifacts and writings that are swept under the rug, and you will know pretty quickly how tenuous and fragile (and fabricated) the common view of history really is.
I will take science over mythology EVERY time.
Then you bow to political masters. Because science has not been science since Issac Newton was around...
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Then you bow to political masters. Because science has not been science since Issac Newton was around...
@roamer_1
Well,that explains why you live in the wilderness and have such a rich fantasy life.
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@roamer_1
Well,that explains why you live in the wilderness and have such a rich fantasy life.
@sneakypete
Naw, I have lived here all along... Since 6th grade or so...
And not much of a fantasy guy. My bag is history. Ancient stuff.
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@sneakypete
Naw, I have lived here all along... Since 6th grade or so...
And not much of a fantasy guy. My bag is history. Ancient stuff.
@roamer_1 they're dropping a new show on the Ottoman Empire. I got a notification. Looks interesting
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@roamer_1 they're dropping a new show on the Ottoman Empire. I got a notification. Looks interesting
No doubt I will be watching that @Gefn happy77
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@roamer_1 they're dropping a new show on the Ottoman Empire. I got a notification. Looks interesting
@Gefn
There can be no doubt they will have plenty of drama and story lines. Should be interesting to see if Muslims are portrayed as saints. If they are,we know Saudi money was "invested".
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@roamer_1 they're dropping a new show on the Ottoman Empire. I got a notification. Looks interesting
@Gefn
BTW,who are "they",and when will the 1st episode be aired?
Thanks!
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@Gefn
BTW,who are "they",and when will the 1st episode be aired?
Thanks!
@sneakypete it’s on Netflix. Type in “Ottoman†and you’ll see it. I meant “they†was referring to Netflix. I’ve been a little spacey this week. Or more blonde than normal. Lol. :blonde moment:
Oh it already dropped. It says “2020â€
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@sneakypete it’s on Netflix. Type in “Ottoman†and you’ll see it. I meant “they†was referring to Netflix. I’ve been a little spacey this week. Or more blonde than normal. Lol. :blonde moment:
Oh it already dropped. It says “2020â€
@Gefn
Thanks!
I know more that I ever wanted to learn about being spacey. Yesterday and today were the first days in months I haven't worken up in a chemo fog,wondering what was going on. Still ain't "there" yet,but I seem to be able to remember simple things a lot better. Not leaving home to go somewhere,and then wondering where I was going,and have to pull off the road to check my phone for appointments. A little bit of that goes a LONG ways!
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@sneakypete it’s on Netflix. Type in “Ottoman†and you’ll see it. I meant “they†was referring to Netflix. I’ve been a little spacey this week. Or more blonde than normal. Lol. :blonde moment:
Oh it already dropped. It says “2020â€
@Gefn
BTW,ever watch Deadwood,Homeland,or Justified? It just doesn't get any gooder.
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@Gefn
BTW,ever watch Deadwood,Homeland,or Justified? It just doesn't get any gooder.
Justified is probably my all time favorite, @sneakypete
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Justified is probably my all time favorite, @sneakypete
@roamer_1
That's a surprise. I had you stereotyped into being a huge Deadwood fan. Deadwood was one of the first series I started watching that had my jaw dropping.
Give Homeland a watch. Season 1 is free now on Amazon Prime,and may be free other places.
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@Gefn
BTW,ever watch Deadwood,Homeland,or Justified? It just doesn't get any gooder.
I loved Banshee! Think it was on Showtime or Cinemax.
Incredible fight scenes and the most sensual femme fatale in the character "Rebecca", a girl who sheds her Amish garb and life on weekends, LOL!
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Right now, I'm revisiting TAKEN, the 2-season 'Made for TV' version of Liam Neeson's movie trilogy.
Like I'm seeing it for the 1st time, since it's been a couple of years, etc..
Regarding Justified....there was nothing better!
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@roamer_1
That's a surprise. I had you stereotyped into being a huge Deadwood fan. Deadwood was one of the first series I started watching that had my jaw dropping.
Give Homeland a watch. Season 1 is free now on Amazon Prime,and may be free other places.
Oh I am a big fan of Deadwood, @sneakypete ... I think it was Deadwood that got me into Justified.... Looking for other work by Olyphant... Great actor, great role in both... And what's the other? Hell on Wheels?
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Oh I am a big fan of Deadwood, @sneakypete ... I think it was Deadwood that got me into Justified.... Looking for other work by Olyphant... Great actor, great role in both... And what's the other? Hell on Wheels?
@roamer_1
Oh,yeah! EXCELLENT series. The good bad news is there is so much 1st rate entertainment out there today that's it hard to remember them all.
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@roamer_1
Oh,yeah! EXCELLENT series. The good bad news is there is so much 1st rate entertainment out there today that's it hard to remember them all.
Of them, Justified is my favorite... A bit, um... nostalgic for me. happy77
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Of them, Justified is my favorite... A bit, um... nostalgic for me. happy77
How so?
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How so?
@DCPatriot
I may have mentioned my brilliantly misspent yoot... That show pretty accurately portrays the seedy side of 'country', as I lived it... Not that violent, but that.
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Adding my 2 cents (late as usual).
A couple of days ago, my sore knee kept me off my feet and glued to my living room recliner. So I pulled up a Netflix series called "The Last Czars. " Actually, it was only about one czar, Nicholas II, who was overthrown and killed (along with his family) by the Bolsheviks in 1917. Thought it was quite good. It was an interesting blend of documentary and drama with historians describing the events and each event recreated by various actors (none of whom I recognized). Unlike a lot of dramas, where history is distorted for dramatic effect, The Last Czars stuck closely to the real story of the czar's ill-fated reign, eventual downfall and the slaughter of him and his family.
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Adding my 2 cents (late as usual).
A couple of days ago, my sore knee kept me off my feet and glued to my living room recliner. So I pulled up a Netflix series called "The Last Czars. " Actually, it was only about one czar, Nicholas II, who was overthrown and killed (along with his family) by the Bolsheviks in 1917. Thought it was quite good. It was an interesting blend of documentary and drama with historians describing the events and each event recreated by various actors (none of whom I recognized). Unlike a lot of dramas, where history is distorted for dramatic effect, The Last Czars stuck closely to the real story of the czar's ill-fated reign, eventual downfall and the slaughter of him and his family.
@Applewood
Another excellent series making a rerun is MI-5,produced by the BBC. THE best damn series about espionage and intelligence that I have ever seen,and no car chases or gunfights in the street. Or very few,anyhow.
NOBODY does this sort of thing like the Brits. They take it seriously,and hire actors and actors by hiring the best ones they can afford that are available. Their age and physical appearance is secondary to their ability to be believable. Yeah,there IS some eyecandy for both men and women,but it's incindental.
Also,NOBODY can be assumed to not be killed/kidnapped/dissapear/crippled for life in ANY episode,no matter how popular that character is. It is a real "Who done it,and who was it done to" show.
Season 1 of 10 or 11 is airing for free now if you have Amazon Prime,and all seasons are airing elsewhere if you want to binge watch,like me. I watched about half of the first season when it was new,and was so desperate to see what happens that I couldn't wait,and bought the boxed set of DVD's before the 1st season ended.
Luther is another EXCELLENT police series on BBC and other places. IIRC,there are maybe 5 seasons. Luther is a big,strong black detective (used to be a heavyweight boxer in real life),but he's not the one that will scare you. Can't/won't tell you who it is,either. You need to watch it and find out for yourselves.
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@sneakypete
Thank you for the recommendations. I'm always on the lookout for series to binge watch when my arthritis acts up or it's too dang cold to go out anywhere.
The Brits do all forms of tv very well -- certainly better than the garbage the US industry puts out these days. I enjoy a number of old comedies. Just found the Black Adder series on Amazon. Particularly funny if you know anything about British history, but even if you don't, it's hilarious. The series goes back to the 1980s, I think, but even after all these years, it still holds up. And it's free if you have Prime.
I keep saying when my tv dies, I'm not going to replace it. There is so much good stuff available online. I can sit in my recliner with my laptop on my lap, a mug of hot tea on the table next to the chair and be in hog heaven.
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@sneakypete
Thank you for the recommendations. I'm always on the lookout for series to binge watch when my arthritis acts up or it's too dang cold to go out anywhere.
The Brits do all forms of tv very well --
@Applewood
Check out "Mrs. Brown's Boys" on Brit-Box. Slap-stick comedy,and crude on top of it. All 7 seasons are now on Brit-Box. I only watched the 1st episode of Season 1 so far,but a time or two it had me laughing so hard I had trouble catching my breath.
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@sneakypete
Thank you for the recommendations. I'm always on the lookout for series to binge watch when my arthritis acts up or it's too dang cold to go out anywhere.
The Brits do all forms of tv very well -- certainly better than the garbage the US industry puts out these days. I enjoy a number of old comedies. Just found the Black Adder series on Amazon. Particularly funny if you know anything about British history, but even if you don't, it's hilarious. The series goes back to the 1980s, I think, but even after all these years, it still holds up. And it's free if you have Prime.
I keep saying when my tv dies, I'm not going to replace it. There is so much good stuff available online. I can sit in my recliner with my laptop on my lap, a mug of hot tea on the table next to the chair and be in hog heaven.
Broadchurch and Happy Valley are two other British detective series that are well done.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2249364/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2249364/)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3428912/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3428912/)
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Broadchurch and Happy Valley are two other British detective series that are well done.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2249364/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2249364/)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3428912/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3428912/)
@DCPatriot
I watched Broadchurch a few years ago,and agree.
I now have Happy Valley on my "check out list". Thanks!
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I could mention my favorite series that are on Netflix... but they would be anime series, and no one here is interested in that. :shrug:
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@sneakypete
@DCPatriot
Thank you both for your suggestions. There is still a lot of winter left, so I now have plenty of shows to binge on. happy77
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@sneakypete
@DCPatriot
Thank you both for your suggestions. There is still a lot of winter left, so I now have plenty of shows to binge on. happy77
@Applewood
Let us know what you think after watching a couple of episodes.
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@Applewood
I liked Blackadder when I saw it years ago. Amazon also hasFather Ted. That’s very good too.
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@Applewood
Let us know what you think after watching a couple of episodes.
Grrrrrrr..
Got to watch the first episode of Homeland, and that was the only one that was free. Guess I'll just have to wait
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Grrrrrrr..
Got to watch the first episode of Homeland, and that was the only one that was free. Guess I'll just have to wait
@catfish1957
DAMN! Sorry about that! I am a monthly subscriber to Showtime,and forgot about that because when I go there from amazon,it just hooks up automatically.
UPDATE: I just checked,and you can get all 7 current seasons of Homeland on Hulu for $5.99 a month,plus a lot of other stuff worth watching,like all the episodes of Family Guy,South Park,etc,etc,etc. Plus,it's a monthly gig. No yearly contract.
Here is something you can try. Take a trial subscription which gives you free viewing for 7 days. You can easily watch all of season 1 in 7 days,and then know if you like it or not. If you do like it,just subscribe for their $10.99 monthly fee,and binge it for a couple of months when you have the time,and watch the whole series. I have never seen a show about espionage and intelligence as smart and believable as Homeland,and for 30 bucks total you can watch the whole thing.
Or,as an alternative,go on ebay and look for the series boxed set and buy it used. Watch and enjoy it,and then sell it to someone else.
BTW,what did you think of the first episode?
BTW-2,the redheaded British guy that plays Sgt Brody also stars in the series Billions.
I also HIGHTY recommend MI-5,about British intelligence operating in England,and policing up mostly Muslim terrorists.
Neither series are "shootemus". Both are intelligent series about spying and subversion. Yeah,there is SOME shooting in both of them,but not much. People mostly think themselves out of trouble,and some get into trouble and die unexpectedly. Especially in MI-5.
Check your ROKU to see if you get MI-5 for free.
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If closed-caption isn't a concern... Wild District. Season 2 is even better~!
This gritty Colombian drama returns for a second season, following a deadly guerrillero in post-Peace Treaty Colombia as he flees to the countryside and tries to start a new life in Bogotá. Season two will see JJ still working as a hitman while trying to assimilate into civilian life, and Daniela running for president while encountering some ethical challenges.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8105958/episodes (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8105958/episodes)
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