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State Chapters => Arizona => Topic started by: HikerGuy83 on July 23, 2021, 05:57:34 pm
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So where is the audit ?
I can't find anything on the net that isn't left wing crap.
Maybe not looking in the right spot.
Seems other states are now talking about audits.
Great !!!
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The results will be out tomorrow.
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The results will be out tomorrow.
Where did you hear that? There are weeks of work to be done. Some information might be released, but I really doubt that. I am on the AZGOP Executive Committee, and I've gotten no such notice.
AFAIK, it's still the middle of August.
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So what is all this BS the left is posting about.
https://apnews.com/article/business-government-and-politics-arizona-election-2020-e6158cd1b0c6442716064e6791b4c6fc
I am not sure how this even relates to the audit.
I grow so tired of the crap.
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AP doesn't know shit about the numbers of cases of "bad ballots." They're making crap up out of thin air. Only 300 cases out of 3 million ballots? WTF, there are at most 2.1 million. They say they did their own "audit" of the ballots, which would have been a pretty neat trick considering they've been under lock and key for months.
There are two kinds of stories to be skeptical about here. We have frozen snot like this from the far left, and then we have Gateway Pundit which leans towards the right "breaking scoops" claiming imminent releases of hard data showing Trump won. These are the people spinning fantasies about Trump being returned to the White House in September of this year.
Both are bullshit. Nobody's released any numbers, and I don't think there will be for weeks.
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AP doesn't know shit about the numbers of cases of "bad ballots." They're making crap up out of thin air. Only 300 cases out of 3 million ballots? WTF, there are at most 2.1 million. They say they did their own "audit" of the ballots, which would have been a pretty neat trick considering they've been under lock and key for months.
There are two kinds of stories to be skeptical about here. We have frozen snot like this from the far left, and then we have Gateway Pundit which leans towards the right "breaking scoops" claiming imminent releases of hard data showing Trump won. These are the people spinning fantasies about Trump being returned to the White House in September of this year.
Both are bullshit. Nobody's released any numbers, and I don't think there will be for weeks.
Thank you.
I am pretty much skeptical about anything written about the audit.
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AP doesn't know shit about the numbers of cases of "bad ballots." They're making crap up out of thin air. Only 300 cases out of 3 million ballots? WTF, there are at most 2.1 million. They say they did their own "audit" of the ballots, which would have been a pretty neat trick considering they've been under lock and key for months.
There are two kinds of stories to be skeptical about here. We have frozen snot like this from the far left, and then we have Gateway Pundit which leans towards the right "breaking scoops" claiming imminent releases of hard data showing Trump won. These are the people spinning fantasies about Trump being returned to the White House in September of this year.
Both are bullshit. Nobody's released any numbers, and I don't think there will be for weeks.
Trump being returned to the White House?? That's never going to happen! The globalists, marxists, leftists, BLM, Antia, etc., etc., will NEVER allow it.
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There is no constitutional means for overturning a Presidential election. The US is stuck with LIEden, short of 25th Amendment removal or impeachment, in which case we'd be stuck with President Kammie.
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Pete, you're right about that, and no thoughtful person would believe otherwise.
However...
It's important that the audit documents whatever fraud and election manipulation (I prefer to call it "control" these days) is found.
What needs to be shown:
- If the election was stolen
- If so, how the ballots were forged, mass-produced, etc. (forensic evidence, etc.)
- If so, how the "underground election apparatus" that manufactured them operated
- Who ran such apparatus.
If there is to be any hope of stopping the communist election apparatus in the future, these things need to be revealed NOW. I sense that the apparatus that was operational in AZ was not unlike the apparati assembled in the other stolen states.
Otherwise, all this is gonna happen again in 2022, and in 2024.
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Pete, you're right about that, and no thoughtful person would believe otherwise.
However...
It's important that the audit documents whatever fraud and election manipulation (I prefer to call it "control" these days) is found.
What needs to be shown:
- If the election was stolen
- If so, how the ballots were forged, mass-produced, etc. (forensic evidence, etc.)
- If so, how the "underground election apparatus" that manufactured them operated
- Who ran such apparatus.
If there is to be any hope of stopping the communist election apparatus in the future, these things need to be revealed NOW. I sense that the apparatus that was operational in AZ was not unlike the apparati assembled in the other stolen states.
Otherwise, all this is gonna happen again in 2022, and in 2024.
I think they've been revealed it's just a matter of proving it and getting a court to actually listen.
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I think they've been revealed it's just a matter of proving it and getting a court to actually listen.
Can you share how you think they've been revealed.
They obviously are still holding to the party line that this thing was fair and square.
I wish Trump would not throw gas on the fire.
We need information, not propaganda.
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Pete, you're right about that, and no thoughtful person would believe otherwise.
However...
It's important that the audit documents whatever fraud and election manipulation (I prefer to call it "control" these days) is found.
What needs to be shown:
- If the election was stolen
- If so, how the ballots were forged, mass-produced, etc. (forensic evidence, etc.)
- If so, how the "underground election apparatus" that manufactured them operated
- Who ran such apparatus.
If there is to be any hope of stopping the communist election apparatus in the future, these things need to be revealed NOW. I sense that the apparatus that was operational in AZ was not unlike the apparati assembled in the other stolen states.
Otherwise, all this is gonna happen again in 2022, and in 2024.
Amen
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There is no constitutional means for overturning a Presidential election. The US is stuck with LIEden, short of 25th Amendment removal or impeachment, in which case we'd be stuck with President Kammie.
It is not without its remedy. A Republican surge is almost a foregone conclusion in the midterm. And both houses of Congress can do much to tie a president's hands.
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It is not without its remedy. A Republican surge is almost a foregone conclusion in the midterm. And both houses of Congress can do much to tie a president's hands.
I sure hope so.
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It is not without its remedy. A Republican surge is almost a foregone conclusion in the midterm. And both houses of Congress can do much to tie a president's hands.
It's up to us to bust our humps getting good people elected in order to push Lieden back into his creepy black hole.
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It is not without its remedy. A Republican surge is almost a foregone conclusion in the midterm. And both houses of Congress can do much to tie a president's hands.
Agreed .... provided that the electoral process has been remedied by then.
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It's up to us to bust our humps getting good people elected in order to push Lieden back into his creepy black hole.
Have at it. For the most part, I don't see that as the trouble.
The Republicans are the problem. If they were doing their job, the left would be toothless.
More of the same ol rah rah bullcrap won't fix a damn thing.
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Agreed .... provided that the electoral process has been remedied by then.
Pretty hard to jack the midterms.
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Pretty hard to jack the midterms.
Wanna bet?
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Wanna bet?
Yeah. Maybe a state or two, but it ain't like the general... Multiple targets instead of one
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Wanna bet?
My prediction is that Trump will show up at the last minute, step on his Johnson with some poorly thought out comment, and the Dems will ride this to a partial victory. He seems to be more reserved these days, so hopefully I am wrong. on the other hand, it might just be that he's banned from all social media platforms, and so doesn't have the ability to wake up early and fire off the inflammatory missives before his staff shows up.
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Have at it. For the most part, I don't see that as the trouble.
The Republicans are the problem. If they were doing their job, the left would be toothless.
More of the same ol rah rah bullcrap won't fix a damn thing.
O.K.
You need me to say that good people does not mean people who can lie their asses off and tell you what you want to hear ?
Otherwise, I can share with you that I've learned through long experience that my yard does not mow itself.
If I want it mowed, I have to get behind the mower and push.
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My prediction is that Trump will show up at the last minute, step on his Johnson with some poorly thought out comment, and the Dems will ride this to a partial victory. He seems to be more reserved these days, so hopefully I am wrong. on the other hand, it might just be that he's banned from all social media platforms, and so doesn't have the ability to wake up early and fire off the inflammatory missives before his staff shows up.
I don't know where Trump lands in this next go around.
It can't be partial though.
He's either in or out and if he loses, he better keep his big mouth shut.
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Yeah. Maybe a state or two, but it ain't like the general... Multiple targets instead of one
Take NOTHING for granted.
I think Obama somehow thought he owned congress and got his shinny little butt waxed in 2010.
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Back to the audit.
From what I can tell, there is nothing official and nothing that hints and the results.
Some of my left-wing associates are already taking victory laps claiming that if there was anything, the Cyber Ninjas would be plastering it all over the web.
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O.K.
You need me to say that good people does not mean people who can lie their asses off and tell you what you want to hear ?
Otherwise, I can share with you that I've learned through long experience that my yard does not mow itself.
If I want it mowed, I have to get behind the mower and push.
Yeah... see, that analogy would work except it ain't you pushing the mower.... You've contracted the work. And your contractor does nothing, never shows up, and keeps blaming your knee-deep grass on the contractor mowing your neighbor.
We would have a saying for that up in here: That dog don't hunt. And I am all done trying to make it hunt. Time for a different damn dog.
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..., he better keep his big mouth shut.
That's one skill he does not have. The guy is a master at shooting himself in the foot.
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‘Botched’: Arizona GOP’s ballot count ends, troubles persist
Arizona Republicans’ partisan review of the 2020 election results got off to a rocky start when their contractors broke rules for counting ballots and election experts warned the work was dangerous for democracy.
When the auditors stopped the counting and returned the ballots this week, it hadn’t gotten better. In the last week alone, the only audit leader with substantial election experience was locked out of the building, went on the radio to say he was quitting, then reversed course hours later. The review’s Twitter accounts were suspended for breaking the rules. A conservative Republican senator withdrew her support, calling the process “botched.” And the lead auditor confirmed what was long suspected: that his work was almost entirely paid for by supporters of Donald Trump who were active in the former president’s movement to spread false narratives of fraud. ........
https://apnews.com/article/arizona-election-2020-e31f6eb911adb01086281291ca9e6dcf
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‘Botched’: Arizona GOP’s ballot count ends, troubles persist
Arizona Republicans’ partisan review of the 2020 election results got off to a rocky start when their contractors broke rules for counting ballots and election experts warned the work was dangerous for democracy.
When the auditors stopped the counting and returned the ballots this week, it hadn’t gotten better. In the last week alone, the only audit leader with substantial election experience was locked out of the building, went on the radio to say he was quitting, then reversed course hours later. The review’s Twitter accounts were suspended for breaking the rules. A conservative Republican senator withdrew her support, calling the process “botched.” And the lead auditor confirmed what was long suspected: that his work was almost entirely paid for by supporters of Donald Trump who were active in the former president’s movement to spread false narratives of fraud. ........
https://apnews.com/article/arizona-election-2020-e31f6eb911adb01086281291ca9e6dcf
The last place I might look to for fair reporting about the AZ Audit would be the Associated Press. They don't know Shinola, they're just speculating from thin air.
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Yeah... see, that analogy would work except it ain't you pushing the mower.... You've contracted the work. And your contractor does nothing, never shows up, and keeps blaming your knee-deep grass on the contractor mowing your neighbor.
We would have a saying for that up in here: That dog don't hunt. And I am all done trying to make it hunt. Time for a different damn dog.
You don't get it both ways.
Either you hire another contractor or you live with the yard.
You seem O.K with the yard.
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You don't get it both ways.
Either you hire another contractor or you live with the yard.
You seem O.K with the yard.
Nah.. Like I said, better to put my efforts into the CP, and that is what I am doing. Sure as hell better odds than banking on Republicans... And back east ones particularly.
Seems to me it's y'all that are OK with the yard.
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The last place I might look to for fair reporting about the AZ Audit would be the Associated Press. They don't know Shinola, they're just speculating from thin air.
AP is already collaborating with Facebook, Twitter, and the Biden Administration to control the COVID narrative.
In for a penny, in for a pound.
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Have not seen or heard much on the audit.
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Have not seen or heard much on the audit.
Me neither. :shrug:
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BREAKING BIG — Jovan Pulitzer: Arizona Audit Report Will be Delivered to Senate on Friday, Results Will Be Earth-Shattering
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/breaking-big-jovan-pulitzer-arizona-audit-report-will-delivered-senate-friday-results-will-earth-shattering/
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BREAKING BIG — Jovan Pulitzer: Arizona Audit Report Will be Delivered to Senate on Friday, Results Will Be Earth-Shattering
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/breaking-big-jovan-pulitzer-arizona-audit-report-will-delivered-senate-friday-results-will-earth-shattering/
Giving it to the Senate is one thing (and Hoft has been breathakingly wrong in previous stories claiming imminent release of Audit results), the Senate giving it to us is another.
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Giving it to the Senate is one thing (and Hoft has been breathakingly wrong in previous stories claiming imminent release of Audit results), the Senate giving it to us is another.
There is always tomorrow...
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There is always tomorrow...
Hoft said "Friday," but not which Friday... :tongue2:
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... Hoft has been breathakingly wrong in previous stories claiming imminent release of Audit results ...
Gateway Pundit reports all the news that is too good to factcheck but will garner clicks. Quite a sad plunge from what they were a decade ago or so.
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Hoft said "Friday," but not which Friday... :tongue2:
At this point, what's the point? They've lost all momentum.
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Trump being returned to the White House?? That's never going to happen! The globalists, marxists, leftists, BLM, Antia, etc., etc., will NEVER allow it.
@libertybele
The people who think Trump is going to be installed in the WH if Joe steps down are delusional fools.
I FULLY expect Trump to win the Presidential election in 2024,though. If he runs and doesn't win,I FULLY expect riots in the streets. Look for me because I will be there,pretty much equipped for anything that happens. We either revolt and take America back then,or America is OVER.
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Arizona GOP audit delayed after Cyber Ninjas members contract COVID-19
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/569060-arizona-gop-audit-delayed-after-cyber-ninjas-members-contract-covid-19
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The partisan “audit” has been dogged by questions over its competence and validity since March when the Senate, without a bid process, ....
Ahh, the Hill. Pejorative much? Calling it "partisan" is designed to detract from the results, but using quotation marks around 'audit', even calls into question the validity of the findings and procedures used to obtain them.
Attackers have questioned the audit from the start, as a form of attack (as if that wasn't partisan).
Sheesh. **nononono*
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Ahh, the Hill. Pejorative much? Calling it "partisan" is designed to detract from the results, but using quotation marks around 'audit', even calls into question the validity of the findings and procedures used to obtain them.
Attackers have questioned the audit from the start, as a form of attack (as if that wasn't partisan).
Sheesh. **nononono*
Calling it a partisan "audit" is a DNC talking point used widely by the media even here in Arizona.
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@libertybele
The people who think Trump is going to be installed in the WH if Joe steps down are delusional fools.
I FULLY expect Trump to win the Presidential election in 2024,though. If he runs and doesn't win,I FULLY expect riots in the streets. Look for me because I will be there,pretty much equipped for anything that happens. We either revolt and take America back then,or America is OVER.
@sneakypete I'm more of a realist. The election was stolen by DEM fraud. Have you seen any signs that the RNC is ensuring ballot integrity in 2024? If not, what makes you think that another election won't be stolen?
As for riots, 75,000,000 strong and peacefully China Joe was sworn in.
With nothing changing, I don't expect different results.
IMO we've already lost our Republic. Neither the GOP, RNC or our SCOTUS were willing to acknowledge fraud and do something about it. Here we sit.
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This thing is like a bad joke with no punchline.
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This thing is like a bad joke with no punchline.
(https://the80sruled.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Screen-Shot-2018-02-01-at-7.23.44-PM.png)
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Hiker wrote:
"This thing is like a bad joke with no punchline."
I agree.
Lots of promises, with no visible results.
Cyber Liberty, is this ever gonna see the light of day?
Or... are Republicans gonna come out the worse for having sponsored it...?
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@libertybele
The people who think Trump is going to be installed in the WH if Joe steps down are delusional fools.
I FULLY expect Trump to win the Presidential election in 2024,though. If he runs and doesn't win,I FULLY expect riots in the streets. Look for me because I will be there,pretty much equipped for anything that happens. We either revolt and take America back then,or America is OVER.
Unfortunately, Trump seems to attract an inordinate number of delusional fools.
For the good of the country, I hope he doesn't run. He can do more good by throwing his support behind a candidate of his choice (I still like DeSantis).
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Unfortunately, Trump seems to attract an inordinate number of delusional fools.
For the good of the country, I hope he doesn't run. He can do more good by throwing his support behind a candidate of his choice (I still like DeSantis).
@BassWrangler
Speaking of delusional fools.........
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Here it is now... September... and still... nothing.
My guess is the results of this "audit" won't be seeing the light of day any time soon.
Cyber...?
You must know what's going on (perhaps more than you can say publicly)...?
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Here it is now... September... and still... nothing.
My guess is the results of this "audit" won't be seeing the light of day any time soon.
Cyber...?
You must know what's going on (perhaps more than you can say publicly)...?
Yes, more than I can say publicly. The Great Biteme F Up of Auguest/September screwed up the news cycle....
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Yes, more than I can say publicly. The Great Biteme F Up of Auguest/September screwed up the news cycle....
But it is still happening, right? Because it seems to be getting vapor-like
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But it is still happening, right? Because it seems to be getting vapor-like
It's still happening. Gonna be a big surprise when it gets dropped on us. Hopefully a good one. A lot of the delay is happening because Maricopa County has fought every effort to find facts. I think we can say what happened, but nobody will go to jail without that information. People have to go to jail, or nobody will GAF.
I still think it's going to come down to the Dominion tabulation equipment. How any votes were switched from Trump to Biden?
We already know there was ginormous fraud in the mail-in ballots, far more than enough to account for the difference in totals for both candidates, but there is no way to track down the effects of the fraud because of all the evidence the Democrats destroyed while under subpoena.
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It's still happening. Gonna be a big surprise when it gets dropped on us. Hopefully a good one. A lot of the delay is happening because Maricopa County has fought every effort to find facts. I think we can say what happened, but nobody will go to jail without that information. People have to go to jail, or nobody will GAF.
I still think it's going to come down to the Dominion tabulation equipment. How any votes were switched from Trump to Biden?
We already know there was ginormous fraud in the mail-in ballots, far more than enough to account for the difference in totals for both candidates, but there is no way to track down the effects of the fraud because of all the evidence the Democrats destroyed while under subpoena.
Good to know. I was starting to get froggy because of the delay, and particularly because the canvass report was released (supposedly) into the public prior to the actual report, which feels sorta like ginning.
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Good to know. I was starting to get froggy because of the delay, and particularly because the canvass report was released (supposedly) into the public prior to the actual report, which feels sorta like ginning.
The canvass report was not done by the GOP Senate, it was independent, and damning. Still no respect for the findings, as there will be none when this audit comes out.
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The canvass report was not done by the GOP Senate, it was independent, and damning. Still no respect for the findings, as there will be none when this audit comes out.
Thanks for that... I am off to apologize to my tinfoil-hat sister - I had mentioned to her that I felt it was ginning and she blew a gasket... :shrug: :whistle:
:beer:
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https://twitter.com/WendyRogersAZ
Audit will be presented to the Senate 9/24/21.
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https://twitter.com/WendyRogersAZ
Audit will be presented to the Senate 9/24/21.
What happens after that?
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Being reported on a number of "press" outlets:
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=arizona+audit&pn=1&iar=news&ia=news
What happens after that?
The contents of the report goes into review by the Senate, so they won't be released to us for a while yet. Meanwhile, after Friday leakers can get to work on the Big Reveal.
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Thanks.
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What happens after that?
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(https://i.imgur.com/sWjo5Jq.jpg)
I'm on pins and needles, here. happy77
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Cyber wrote:
"The contents of the report goes into review by the Senate, so they won't be released to us for a while yet. Meanwhile, after Friday leakers can get to work on the Big Reveal."
Fishrrman prediction:
The only way this "report" will see the light of day (at least to the public-at-large) is if it is somehow "leaked".
Through "official channels"?
Furgeddaboutit.
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Cyber wrote:
"The contents of the report goes into review by the Senate, so they won't be released to us for a while yet. Meanwhile, after Friday leakers can get to work on the Big Reveal."
Fishrrman prediction:
The only way this "report" will see the light of day (at least to the public-at-large) is if it is somehow "leaked".
Through "official channels"?
Furgeddaboutit.
And then there's the lawsuit by the Dems for "All materials related to the Audit" be released.
"Please Bre'r Fox, don't throw me into that briar patch!"
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Cyber wrote:
"The contents of the report goes into review by the Senate, so they won't be released to us for a while yet. Meanwhile, after Friday leakers can get to work on the Big Reveal."
Fishrrman prediction:
The only way this "report" will see the light of day (at least to the public-at-large) is if it is somehow "leaked".
Through "official channels"?
Furgeddaboutit.
You may well be right. I think there is too much corruption on both 'sides' to risk letting such material ever see the light of day. But I have faith that it WILL get out, only be "unofficial" and open to attack by the usual suspects.
I hope we are wrong.
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I've been confident for months that as this rolls out, there will be tons of complaints along the way. When it's done, there will still be complaints and bashing of the very people trying to open this can of worms.
Carry on. *****rollingeyes*****
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I've been confident for months that as this rolls out, there will be tons of complaints along the way. When it's done, there will still be complaints and bashing of the very people trying to open this can of worms.
Carry on. *****rollingeyes*****
I'm not complaining, the Democrats will likely do much of that, and the turncoats in the GOP will show their true colors as well.
I want the results to be bulletproof, undeniable, and untainted, wherever the chips may fall.
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I'm not complaining, the Democrats will likely do much of that, and the turncoats in the GOP will show their true colors as well.
I want the results to be bulletproof, undeniable, and untainted, wherever the chips may fall.
And that's why I believe that's what they are doing, because the Senators know they will see a blowback from the Rats the likes of which we haven't ever seen before.
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And that's why I believe that's what they are doing, because the Senators know they will see a blowback from the Rats the likes of which we haven't ever seen before.
Be certain of it. It will be a Cat 6 sh*tstorm.
Be ready.
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I'm on pins and needles, here. happy77
I was just reading the news about Durham dropping a single indictment, for some peripheral two-bit player, a couple of days before the statute of limitations runs out.... I'm not getting my hopes up.
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I'm not complaining, the Democrats will likely do much of that, and the turncoats in the GOP will show their true colors as well.
I want the results to be bulletproof, undeniable, and untainted, wherever the chips may fall.
It's all about the spin, and the spin will be that the auditors are partisan players. Doesn't matter how buttoned up their evidence is. The popular media will dismiss it as more Trump loonery and then ignore it. I'll be the happiest man on the planet if I'm wrong on this one, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
The only solution is to separate from these people. Hoping to win them over with facts and a compelling argument is not a winning strategy. We have decades of data supporting that conclusion.
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It's all about the spin, and the spin will be that the auditors are partisan players. Doesn't matter how buttoned up their evidence is. The popular media will dismiss it as more Trump loonery and then ignore it. I'll be the happiest man on the planet if I'm wrong on this one, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
The only solution is to separate from these people. Hoping to win them over with facts and a compelling argument is not a winning strategy. We have decades of data supporting that conclusion.
@BassWrangler
It's a fixed game. They ALL have dirt on each other. It's how the game is played. IF a new congresscritter is unwilling to make questionable deals,he or she will NEVER get any legislation they propose passed,and come election time,they are slammed and voted out of office for not getting anything done or fullfilling any of their campaign promises.
By the time they are in office for 2 terms,they are so compromised they will never be able to "clean up the corruption" because they are a PART of the corruption.
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@BassWrangler
It's a fixed game. They ALL have dirt on each other. It's how the game is played. IF a new congresscritter is unwilling to make questionable deals,he or she will NEVER get any legislation they propose passed,and come election time,they are slammed and voted out of office for not getting anything done or fullfilling any of their campaign promises.
By the time they are in office for 2 terms,they are so compromised they will never be able to "clean up the corruption" because they are a PART of the corruption.
Agreed.
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@BassWrangler
It's a fixed game. They ALL have dirt on each other. It's how the game is played. IF a new congresscritter is unwilling to make questionable deals,he or she will NEVER get any legislation they propose passed,and come election time,they are slammed and voted out of office for not getting anything done or fullfilling any of their campaign promises.
By the time they are in office for 2 terms,they are so compromised they will never be able to "clean up the corruption" because they are a PART of the corruption.
Those who don't play nice end up getting it like Wilbur Mills.
No matter what you think of Pence, he was careful not to end up in THAT situation.
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It's all about the spin, and the spin will be that the auditors are partisan players. Doesn't matter how buttoned up their evidence is. The popular media will dismiss it as more Trump loonery and then ignore it. I'll be the happiest man on the planet if I'm wrong on this one, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
The only solution is to separate from these people. Hoping to win them over with facts and a compelling argument is not a winning strategy. We have decades of data supporting that conclusion.
I'm not sure how well the MSM is controlling the narrative, though. Perhaps in Cali, what with the recall and all that, but there are a huge number of Dimocrats in Cali, and the fix may have been in as a prophylactic resulting in what looks like landslide approval for an idiot. If the results come out, I know I'm seeing more and more fecebook posts that are skeptical or sarcastic about the nitwit brigade in DeeCee, and people working around the community standards adroitly to get the word out before the algorithms in their fackcheker machine pick up on it. That all sounds like the Soviet Union where everyone knew what the government said was a lie, and our Government is there. Most of the folks I know quietly do their best to ignore Washington as much as possible.
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Those who don't play nice end up getting it like Wilbur Mills.
No matter what you think of Pence, he was careful not to end up in THAT situation.
I believe that Pence is an honorable man. Unfortunately, he ended up in a no-win situation.
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I believe that Pence is an honorable man. Unfortunately, he ended up in a no-win situation.
I think the fracas outside gave him incentive to rush. Those who had complaints or questions didn't get to whip them out.
I hope our side learns from that event enough to know how to avoid getting set up again.
Have the protest, even a huge one, just no where close to where they can say you were directly threatening them. It should have stopped in the street out front, and not gone inside.
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I think the fracas outside gave him incentive to rush. Those who had complaints or questions didn't get to whip them out.
I hope our side learns from that event enough to know how to avoid getting set up again.
Have the protest, even a huge one, just no where close to where they can say you were directly threatening them. It should have stopped in the street out front, and not gone inside.
We'll know more tomorrow in DeeCee.
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https://twitter.com/azsenategop/status/1439035033428185089?s=21
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https://twitter.com/azsenategop/status/1439035033428185089?s=21
According to Kelly Townsend this is not good. **nononono*
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Cyber, the only way the results of that audit may see the light of day is if someone on the inside with access "leaks it" to the right sources (and I don't mean "the media").
I sense that you know who can cause that to happen.
Time to make a few calls...
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According to Kelly Townsend this is not good. **nononono*
@Cyber Liberty
I have no idea who Kelly Townsend is,but it doesn't sound good to me,either.
In FACT,it sounds like "cover up".
I say "Throw it all out there in a courtroom,and let the public see the evidence."
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According to Kelly Townsend this is not good. **nononono*
They've had plenty of time to wipe everything including replacing drives.
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They've had plenty of time to wipe everything including replacing drives.
But the Senate has opened up themselves to accusations of "You don't have the physical evidence, so your conclusions are fraudulent." This was why we were fighting so hard for the routers and tabulators.
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@Cyber Liberty
I have no idea who Kelly Townsend is,but it doesn't sound good to me,either.
In FACT,it sounds like "cover up".
I say "Throw it all out there in a courtroom,and let the public see the evidence."
Kelly Townsend is an AZ Senator who has been demanding the Audit starting 11/4/20. I am on her Telegram Feed, and I get a lot of information from her's and Wendy Rogers' Telegram. I then post it here.
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Maricopa County agrees to settle with Arizona State Senate
According to Kelly Townsend this is not good. **nononono*
In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit.
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Kelly Townsend is an AZ Senator who has been demanding the Audit starting 11/4/20. I am on her Telegram Feed, and I get a lot of information from her's and Wendy Rogers' Telegram. I then post it here.
@Cyber Liberty
I have no doubt she is sincere and that her heart is in the right place,but there is no way in hell the professional "deal making pols" are going to let her discover and publicize anything.
The game is "fixed".
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@Cyber Liberty
I have no doubt she is sincere and that her heart is in the right place,but there is no way in hell the professional "deal making pols" are going to let her discover and publicize anything.
The game is "fixed".
And they have had months of noncompliance with the subpoena to rig it.
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And they have had months of noncompliance with the subpoena to rig it.
@Smokin Joe
I don't even like THINKING this,never mind saying it,but I truly fear it is going to take a Second American Revolution with hangings in the streets to set things back right again.
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@Smokin Joe
I don't even like THINKING this,never mind saying it,but I truly fear it is going to take a Second American Revolution with hangings in the streets to set things back right again.
If they keep pushing buttons something like that might happen. But if something like that happened (hypothetically speaking) it would have to be all-in, no holds barred, or simply enough the situation would end up worse. I am still hopeful it can be avoided, but less confident in that every day.
I must note ammo is still in short supply, with the exception of a few calibers that still can be had. I expect that to get worse, and still believe with the amount of divisiveness introduced to the political arena in the past 5 years, that lines would not be clear, and both sides would be well armed. It would be every bit as bad as the last time, and solely dependent on which side the military took.
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If they keep pushing buttons something like that might happen. But if something like that happened (hypothetically speaking) it would have to be all-in, no holds barred, or simply enough the situation would end up worse. I am still hopeful it can be avoided, but less confident in that every day.
I must note ammo is still in short supply, with the exception of a few calibers that still can be had. I expect that to get worse, and still believe with the amount of divisiveness introduced to the political arena in the past 5 years, that lines would not be clear, and both sides would be well armed. It would be every bit as bad as the last time, and solely dependent on which side the military took.
I think it will go down this way:
First, there will be some destabilizing trigger. This could be an economic collapse triggered by and end to unlimited borrowing, an externally initiated military action, a more severe pandemic, etc.
Next, there will a massive overreach by the federal government. Something so over the top that people are openly discussing secession.
Third, one or more states will start by just no complying. The federal government, which will have its hands full with #1 will initially not do anything about it. More states will join, and the movement will spread until it's too big to be stopped.
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sneakypete wrote:
"I don't even like THINKING this,never mind saying it,but I truly fear it is going to take a Second American Revolution with hangings in the streets to set things back right again."
And smokin joe replied:
"If they keep pushing buttons something like that might happen. But if something like that happened (hypothetically speaking) it would have to be all-in, no holds barred, or simply enough the situation would end up worse. I am still hopeful it can be avoided, but less confident in that every day."
This is why Texas can't "go it alone", no matter how much Texans may brag about it.
If there is to be "a separation, it must comprise a "a new union" of the tradtional-freedom states.
Is it time for that "New Continental Congress" yet...?
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If they keep pushing buttons something like that might happen. But if something like that happened (hypothetically speaking) it would have to be all-in, no holds barred, or simply enough the situation would end up worse. I am still hopeful it can be avoided, but less confident in that every day.
I must note ammo is still in short supply, with the exception of a few calibers that still can be had. I expect that to get worse, and still believe with the amount of divisiveness introduced to the political arena in the past 5 years, that lines would not be clear, and both sides would be well armed. It would be every bit as bad as the last time, and solely dependent on which side the military took.
@Smokin Joe
Knowing full-well how devious the government,ANY governemnt can be,I am GUESSING that when it happens,it will be government agents behind it doing all the pushing,and once enough people have been killed in the streets to have the tame populance screaming for gun confiscations,the rioting will end.
Remember hearing the old British expression,"In for penny,in for a pound"? What that tells me is that IF you are one of the people considering open and violent resistance to an out of control government,you need to accept it won't be a casual thing. You need to be prepared to take it to the limit,which will by neccessity include public executions for traitors to the cause,because you can and ARE betting your ass that the government will take that attitude. If you are going to be "in",be in for 100 percent or just submit to your slavery and the slavery of your children and their children.
There really ain't going to be any middle ground,and those who claim there will be are traitors and a danger to your very existence.
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sneakypete wrote:
"I don't even like THINKING this,never mind saying it,but I truly fear it is going to take a Second American Revolution with hangings in the streets to set things back right again."
And smokin joe replied:
"If they keep pushing buttons something like that might happen. But if something like that happened (hypothetically speaking) it would have to be all-in, no holds barred, or simply enough the situation would end up worse. I am still hopeful it can be avoided, but less confident in that every day."
This is why Texas can't "go it alone", no matter how much Texans may brag about it.
If there is to be "a separation, it must comprise a "a new union" of the tradtional-freedom states.
Is it time for that "New Continental Congress" yet...?
@Fishrrman
Yes.
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Hi @Cyber Liberty, what do you know about Kari Lake?
https://thelibertydaily.com/az-gubernatorial-candidate-kari-lake-breaks-down-the-new-rules-are-you-awake-yet/
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Hi @Cyber Liberty, what do you know about Kari Lake?
https://thelibertydaily.com/az-gubernatorial-candidate-kari-lake-breaks-down-the-new-rules-are-you-awake-yet/
She talks a good game.
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Catturd ™
@catturd2
What's your prediction ... what fake event will happen tomorrow to deflect from the Arizona audits?
11:10 AM · Sep 23, 2021·
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SENATOR WENDY ROGERS CATCHES US UP ON THE REVIEW OF ELECTION RESULTS
https://rumble.com/embed/vk8i91
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Am I the only one that reads this thread description as "A TO Z Audit"?
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Senator Petersen — ‘Law enforcement needs to be involved, they broke the law with duplicate ballots’…
CITIZEN FREE PRESS by Kane on September 25, 2021
Liz Harrington
@realLizUSA
"Law enforcement needs to be involved"
Sen. Petersen says "the numbers don't reconcile"
"It appears they broke the law with duplicate ballots"
Deleted election data
Board of Supervisors obstruction
Broken chain of custody
Time for criminal investigations!
https://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1441548666955714560 (https://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1441548666955714560)
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Well,
It would appear the audit did nothing to support the claims Trump was cheated.
Not being privy to anything else, that is what is being reported.
Kelli Ward is being encourage to resign.
Seem like a big bust to me.
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Senator Petersen — ‘Law enforcement needs to be involved, they broke the law with duplicate ballots’…
CITIZEN FREE PRESS by Kane on September 25, 2021
Liz Harrington
@realLizUSA
"Law enforcement needs to be involved"
Sen. Petersen says "the numbers don't reconcile"
"It appears they broke the law with duplicate ballots"
Deleted election data
Board of Supervisors obstruction
Broken chain of custody
Time for criminal investigations!
https://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1441548666955714560 (https://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1441548666955714560)
Good grief
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Good grief
Laws were broken. It should be investigated. People should be held accountable. They have people on videotape accessing the system with Admin passwords and deleting data that was under subpoena. That is a criminal offense.
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Laws were broken. It should be investigated. People should be held accountable. They have people on videotape accessing the system with Admin passwords and deleting data that was under subpoena. That is a criminal offense.
That's right. Now that there is authoritative proof, heads should roll.
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Well,
It would appear the audit did nothing to support the claims Trump was cheated.
Not being privy to anything else, that is what is being reported.
Kelli Ward is being encourage to resign.
Seem like a big bust to me.
Still getting your news from the Republic? Did you watch the hearing Friday at all? "A big bust" my azz.
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That's right. Now that there is authoritative proof, heads should roll.
You would love some of the nitty gritty in that report. There was a lot of evidence concerning log files that were deleted and then recovered by the auditors (shoulda used BleachBit!). They deleted the records that showed direct internet connections in the days before the start of the audit.
Also, there were shared login users to make it difficult to pin an action on a human. Fortunately, one of the witnesses spoke of surveillance pictures that identified some of the people behind the user names, so there is a good chance heads will roll, unless the weasel AG blows it off.
He wants to be the US Senator in 2022, so he might be motivated to do the right thing.
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Well,
It would appear the audit did nothing to support the claims Trump was cheated.
Not being privy to anything else, that is what is being reported.
Kelli Ward is being encourage to resign.
Seem like a big bust to me.
Is there an NTer anywhere who bothers to read past the media's self serving headlines?
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Well,
It would appear
@HikerGuy83
Liberalspeak. I am more interested in what the evidence actually shows, not your perception of what you want (or don't want) it to show.
Either you support fraud or you don't. By your comments, you support it here - the end justifying the means.
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Is there an NTer anywhere who bothers to read past the media's self serving headlines?
They know damn well what the evidence says. They continue to deny it because they can't face the realization that 'truth' contradicts their emotions.
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You would love some of the nitty gritty in that report. There was a lot of evidence concerning log files that were deleted and then recovered by the auditors (shoulda used BleachBit!). They deleted the records that showed direct internet connections in the days before the start of the audit.
Also, there were shared login users to make it difficult to pin an action on a human. Fortunately, one of the witnesses spoke of surveillance pictures that identified some of the people behind the user names, so there is a good chance heads will roll, unless the weasel AG blows it off.
He wants to be the US Senator in 2022, so he might be motivated to do the right thing.
Wow. Thanks for that update, Cyber Liberty. It's encouraging that they actually went down the path of matching surveillance footage with timestamps on the malfeasance. Real consequences for real people would be an amazing turn of events.
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Wow. Thanks for that update, Cyber Liberty. It's encouraging that they actually went down the path of matching surveillance footage with timestamps on the malfeasance. Real consequences for real people would be an amazing turn of events.
Another major finding is the recovery of the deleted log files that showed a lot of nefarious activity just prior to the start of the audit. They thought they had destroyed the evidence, but they did not know deleted files can often be recovered. That was stupid. The surveillance videos provide the icing on the cake, because now that activity can be pinned on specific humans that can be prosecuted.
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Another major finding is the recovery of the deleted log files that showed a lot of nefarious activity just prior to the start of the audit. They thought they had destroyed the evidence, but they did not know deleted files can often be recovered. That was stupid. The surveillance videos provide the icing on the cake, because now that activity can be pinned on specific humans that can be prosecuted.
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Another major finding is the recovery of the deleted log files that showed a lot of nefarious activity just prior to the start of the audit. They thought they had destroyed the evidence, but they did not know deleted files can often be recovered. That was stupid. The surveillance videos provide the icing on the cake, because now that activity can be pinned on specific humans that can be prosecuted.
@Cyber Liberty
"CAN" be prosecuted" is not the same thing as "WILL be prosecuted".
Unfortunately.
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@Cyber Liberty
"CAN" be prosecuted" is not the same thing as "WILL be prosecuted".
Unfortunately.
That depends on the AG, Mark Brnovich. He's a flake, but hopefully he's motivated because he's running for the US Senate. IOW, :shrug:
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@Cyber Liberty
"CAN" be prosecuted" is not the same thing as "WILL be prosecuted".
Unfortunately.
Or will be prosecuted IN A TIMELY MANNER. It's now 10 months since the election and there's still been zero accountability for the fraud.
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Laws were broken. It should be investigated. People should be held accountable. They have people on videotape accessing the system with Admin passwords and deleting data that was under subpoena. That is a criminal offense.
Has anyone been arrested ?
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Has anyone been arrested ?
That's an unserious question. The AG just got the report. Next time read the thread first.
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@HikerGuy83
Liberalspeak. I am more interested in what the evidence actually shows, not your perception of what you want (or don't want) it to show.
Either you support fraud or you don't. By your comments, you support it here - the end justifying the means.
Call me when the trials start.
Right now, they are digging a grave for this whole affair.
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Call me when the trials start.
Right now, they are digging a grave for this whole affair.
This might just take a little more to bury it than the MSM braying "There's nothing to see here. Move along folks!"
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That's an unserious question. The AG just got the report. Next time read the thread first.
I started the thread.
I have been watching it all along.
You don't seem to understand sarcasm to well.
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Still getting your news from the Republic? Did you watch the hearing Friday at all? "A big bust" my azz.
It's all that is out there.
You have a source you want to share...by all means.
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This might just take a little more to bury it than the MSM braying "There's nothing to see here. Move along folks!"
I suspect that if anything comes out, it will hit the right wing news machine big time.
This might just take a little more to bury it than the MSM braying "There's nothing to see here. Move along folks!"
It is quite clear that some won't let it go.
I have no idea what it will take to go one way or the other.
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It is quite clear that some won't let it go.
Unless you are a baths*t nuts leftwinger you'd better hope we don't.
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Unless you are a baths*t nuts leftwinger you'd better hope we don't.
I think you'd have to be bat**** nuts to not.
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This one's for you @Cyber Liberty Not trying to derail the thread .... maybe uplifting? (If you want to delete, or move, feel free)
Arizona!!!!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K2aww8xKcE
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I started the thread.
I have been watching it all along.
You don't seem to understand sarcasm to well.
I do when it's well done.
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I think you'd have to be bat**** nuts to not.
I think I understand why you would believe that.
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Oh goodie... Look what California normalized:
https://www.ksby.com/news/california-news/california-to-mail-every-voter-a-ballot-in-future-elections
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Oh goodie... Look what California normalized:
https://www.ksby.com/news/california-news/california-to-mail-every-voter-a-ballot-in-future-elections
We were mailed ballots last election without requesting one; not once, but twice!
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NOT MAKING HEADLINES: AZ Audit Could Not Find the Identity of 86,391 Voters – They Don’t Appear to Exist and 73.8% Are Democrat or No Party Affiliation (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/not-making-headlines-az-audit-not-find-identity-86391-voters-dont-appear-exist-73-8-democrat-no-party-affiliation/?utm_source=Gab&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons)
Just another coincidence I suppose! *****rollingeyes*****
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NOT MAKING HEADLINES: AZ Audit Could Not Find the Identity of 86,391 Voters – They Don’t Appear to Exist and 73.8% Are Democrat or No Party Affiliation (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/not-making-headlines-az-audit-not-find-identity-86391-voters-dont-appear-exist-73-8-democrat-no-party-affiliation/?utm_source=Gab&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons)
Just another coincidence I suppose! *****rollingeyes*****
Hey! @Bigun ...... do you remember where you found/heard this?
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This one's for you @Cyber Liberty Not trying to derail the thread .... maybe uplifting? (If you want to delete, or move, feel free)
Arizona!!!!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K2aww8xKcE
there’s a blast from the past.
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Oh goodie... Look what California normalized:
https://www.ksby.com/news/california-news/california-to-mail-every-voter-a-ballot-in-future-elections
how many times can you steal one state each election?
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there’s a blast from the past.
For the record: I've never even put on a pair of Rainbow Shades.
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Hey! @Bigun ...... do you remember where you found/heard this?
The headline in my post contains a link @Right_in_Virginia
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For the record: I've never even put on a pair of Rainbow Shades.
can’t say the same about hobo shoes though.
As a kid I thought Paul revere and the raiders’ spats were pretty cool.
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For the record: I've never even put on a pair of Rainbow Shades.
My guess is you probably have never had Indian braids or hobo shoes either. happy77
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I think I understand why you would believe that.
A left-wing statement if ever there was one.
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NOT MAKING HEADLINES: AZ Audit Could Not Find the Identity of 86,391 Voters – They Don’t Appear to Exist and 73.8% Are Democrat or No Party Affiliation (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/not-making-headlines-az-audit-not-find-identity-86391-voters-dont-appear-exist-73-8-democrat-no-party-affiliation/?utm_source=Gab&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons)
Just another coincidence I suppose! *****rollingeyes*****
Even with 86,391 fake votes (on top of all the blank votes, double votes, etc.), there are still posters here who insist Biden is the legitimate winner. It defies sanity.
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We were mailed ballots last election without requesting one; not once, but twice!
Vote early, vote often!
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can’t say the same about hobo shoes though.
As a kid I thought Paul revere and the raiders’ spats were pretty cool.
I liked Cab Calloway's... :shrug:
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Even with 86,391 fake votes (on top of all the blank votes, double votes, etc.), there are still posters here who insist Biden is the legitimate winner. It defies sanity.
Well, just for fun, let's do the math....
86,391*0.738=63,756 Democrat voters (dropping the fraction).
86,391-63,756=22,635 "other" voters.
63,756-22,635=41,121 more Democrat voters than other voters.
That's nearly four times the "margin of victory" for Biden if the voters just voted along Party lines.
Enough to get the heist done.
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I liked Cab Calloway's... :shrug:
@Smokin Joe
I liked pretty much everything I saw or heard by Cab Calloway.
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Even with 86,391 fake votes (on top of all the blank votes, double votes, etc.), there are still posters here who insist Biden is the legitimate winner. It defies sanity.
This is an article worth reading.....well beyond the GatewayPundit.....
https://thefederalist.com/2021/09/27/arizona-2020-vote-audit-finds-potentially-election-shifting-numbers-of-illegal-ballots/
Great information
Great analysis
Low low propaganda
From the article:
Left unmentioned, however, were the numerous findings of problems with the election and, most significantly, evidence indicating tens of thousands of ballots were illegally cast or counted. A report entitled “Compliance with Election Laws and Procedures,” issued by Senate Audit Liaison Ken Bennett, highlighted several issues, of which two were particularly significant because of the number of votes involved.
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Even with 86,391 fake votes (on top of all the blank votes, double votes, etc.), there are still posters here who insist Biden is the legitimate winner. It defies sanity.
it takes an unusual amount of integrity to admit ones fallibility. Especially when one has dug in so deeply.
Such pigheadedness does wreak heck on the credibility though.
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I've been saying all along that simply not checking signatures diligently in urban liberal areas while diligently checking them in rural conservative areas provides a several percent swing in the results across a state. The historical signature rejection rate is about 5%. The rural conservative areas followed the rules and had that rejection rate while the urban liberal areas dropped below 1%. It is a quiet mostly under the radar way to cheat that is very difficult to prove and impossible to correct after the fact.
And cheat they did.
Most of the swing states were won by less than a 2% difference.
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I've been saying all along that simply not checking signatures diligently in urban liberal areas while diligently checking them in rural conservative areas provides a several percent swing in the results across a state. The historical signature rejection rate is about 5%. The rural conservative areas followed the rules and had that rejection rate while the urban liberal areas dropped below 1%. It is a quiet mostly under the radar way to cheat that is very difficult to prove and impossible to correct after the fact.
And cheat they did.
Most of the swing states were won by less than a 2% difference.
Excellent point, @DB
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it takes an unusual amount of integrity to admit ones fallibility. Especially when one has dug in so deeply.
Such pigheadedness does wreak heck on the credibility though.
@Hoodat @skeeter
Why do you two feel like you need to dump on members here? Surely you are not so insecure that you need for everyone to agree with you. Do you think it makes the forum a better place to dump on other members with whom you disagree? Can't you be content to make your points without denigrating others here?
This behavior really seems counterproductive to me. It's constantly stirring up pointless squabbles and makes many threads unpleasant to read.
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The headline in my post contains a link @Right_in_Virginia
Missed that .... thanks @Bigun
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@Hoodat @skeeter
Why do you two feel like you need to dump on members here? Surely you are not so insecure that you need for everyone to agree with you. Do you think it makes the forum a better place to dump on other members with whom you disagree? Can't you be content to make your points without denigrating others here?
This behavior really seems counterproductive to me. It's constantly stirring up pointless squabbles and makes many threads unpleasant to read.
Well thats a weird response to my post.
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I posted this in another thread, so this is a repeat, but appropriate to this thread:
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Too many comrade citizens in this thread are missing the point.
One goal of The Party's "underground election apparatus" is to create enough ballots (in advance of Election Day) so that as many as needed can be drawn "from the reserves" to overload the system.
It's not that "the counting of the ballots" was in error. Indeed, the audit seems to indicate that the pre-audit and post-audit tallies are so close as to be all-but "the same".
However, the apparatus was SUCCESSFUL in that it "loaded down" the system with 50,000+ ballots that could be "creations" of the apparatus, and NOT "of actual voters".
There wasn't going to be enough time to validate these immediately after the election, and any attempt to set them aside would have been met with cries to "Count Every Vote!!!!"
The auditors to their credit were successful in detecting many of these (see the numbers posted in reply 21 above). But consider how long it took them to do so.
Those ballots may be "suspect", but it's of little practical matter now.
They were "counted" on Election Day.
And THAT'S what matters when the apparatus is working properly, fellow comrades.
Lesson concluded!
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Well thats a weird response to my post.
Not at all. Both you and Hoodat seem to frequently post these sort of off-handed cracks about other members. I'm asking why.
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Not at all. Both you and Hoodat seem to frequently post these sort of off-handed cracks about other members. I'm asking why.
I reject your characterization.
But assuming it was accurate, and speaking for myself only, a certain few members determined efforts to ignore ample evidence coming out of AZ and GA as well as other states and to continue to more or less scoff at those of us who realize how critical to our future as a country it is these irregularities are properly addressed, typically because they personally didn't like x45. I find it petty and irksome.
OK?
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I reject your characterization.
But assuming it was accurate, and speaking for myself only, a certain few members determined efforts to ignore ample evidence coming out of AZ and GA as well as other states and to continue to more or less scoff at those of us who realize how critical to our future as a country it is these irregularities are properly addressed, typically because they personally didn't like x45. I find it petty and irksome.
OK?
No, it's not OK to be consistently and frequently denegrating other forum users. It needs to stop.
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@Hoodat @skeeter
Why do you two feel like you need to dump on members here? Surely you are not so insecure that you need for everyone to agree with you. Do you think it makes the forum a better place to dump on other members with whom you disagree? Can't you be content to make your points without denigrating others here?
This behavior really seems counterproductive to me. It's constantly stirring up pointless squabbles and makes many threads unpleasant to read.
Great point.
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No, it's not OK to be consistently and frequently denegrating other forum users. It needs to stop.
Ill continue to say what I feel like saying. take it to the mods if you don’t like it.
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I reject your characterization.
But assuming it was accurate, and speaking for myself only, a certain few members determined efforts to ignore ample evidence coming out of AZ and GA as well as other states and to continue to more or less scoff at those of us who realize how critical to our future as a country it is these irregularities are properly addressed, typically because they personally didn't like x45. I find it petty and irksome.
OK?
Because you don't like it.....
Because you somehow think the evidence adds up to the conclusion you've drawn.....
Because others don't see it that way.......
You feel justified.
Got it.
His description of your behavior is spot on.
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Because you don't like it.....
Because you somehow think the evidence adds up to the conclusion you've drawn.....
Because others don't see it that way.......
You feel justified.
Got it.
His description of your behavior is spot on.
why not complain to the mods? Im sure theyll see it your way.
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@Hoodat @skeeter
Why do you two feel like you need to dump on members here?
Where did I dump on a member?
Surely you are not so insecure that you need for everyone to agree with you.
You may have me confused with someone else.
Do you think it makes the forum a better place to dump on other members with whom you disagree? Can't you be content to make your points without denigrating others here?
@BassWrangler
I challenge ideas, not people. If there is something specific I said that you believe crossed the line, then please cite it. We can discuss. But I truly have no clue what you are talking about here.
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why not complain to the mods? Im sure theyll see it your way.
Why drag the mods into it ?
The fact that he described your behavior perfectly isn't my problem.
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Because you don't like it.....
Because you somehow think the evidence adds up to the conclusion you've drawn.....
Because others don't see it that way.......
As it pertains to the Arizona election, the Maricopa audit has identified a number of illegal votes that is several times greater than the margin of victory. By mathematics alone, it calls into question the legitimacy of the result. And the fact that one party stood in the way of the audit, obstructed justice by deleting files from the servers, access the servers both before and after the election and then lied about it, this leads to the conclusion that they believed the fraud favored their candidate, and that they were obstructing discovery of that fraud.
This isn't personal. It is a strong induction derived from the facts that have been uncovered. And it renders completely false that Joe Biden won the Arizona election fair and square. This is what critical thought leads to. Now, you may be a person who insists on clinging to the original narrative, and disallowing the discovery of any new evidence derived from the audit to challenge that narrative. That is your prerogative to do so. But it isn't one based on truth or critical thought. It is one based on maintaining a position based solely on believing what you want to believe regardless of what the facts are.
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Why drag the mods into it ?
The fact that he described your behavior perfectly isn't my problem.
Youre both carrying on as if I’ve violated some posting etiquette or other. Not sure exactly what violation I’ve committed but I figured the mods might be able to provide you some satisfaction.
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Youre both carrying on as if I’ve violated some posting etiquette or other. Not sure exactly what violation I’ve committed but I figured the mods might be able to provide you some satisfaction.
Who said you violated anything.
He simply called you out for making snarky remarks to posters who don't buy into your POV's.
Nothing wrong with self policing.
Get over yourself.
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Youre both carrying on as if I’ve violated some posting etiquette or other. Not sure exactly what violation I’ve committed but I figured the mods might be able to provide you some satisfaction.
Last warning, stop stirring up conflict with members. Some people here disagree with you. You won't change that. Let it go.
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Youre both carrying on as if I’ve violated some posting etiquette or other. Not sure exactly what violation I’ve committed but I figured the mods might be able to provide you some satisfaction.
I see you two have edited / deleted the posts in question. I'll take that as a positive sign.
And for the record, you can't hide your post history from the guy that runs the server and the database.
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I see you two have edited / deleted the posts in question. I'll take that as a positive sign.
And for the record, you can't hide your post history from the guy that runs the server and the database.
I have no clue what you are talking about. I deleted nothing - the server dude is welcome to check my posting history.
And what’s this ‘last warning’ crap? Honestly, IMO you need to take a break.
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@Smokin Joe
I liked pretty much everything I saw or heard by Cab Calloway.
I met him when I was in Junior High. He did a show at the school, and I just walked up and thanked him afterwrds, and told him I enjoyed it. He was sweating profusely, still, and I realized that as easy as they make it look, there is some hard work involved in show biz.
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As it pertains to the Arizona election, the Maricopa audit has identified a number of illegal votes that is several times greater than the margin of victory. By mathematics alone, it calls into question the legitimacy of the result. And the fact that one party stood in the way of the audit, obstructed justice by deleting files from the servers, access the servers both before and after the election and then lied about it, this leads to the conclusion that they believed the fraud favored their candidate, and that they were obstructing discovery of that fraud.
This isn't personal. It is a strong induction derived from the facts that have been uncovered. And it renders completely false that Joe Biden won the Arizona election fair and square. This is what critical thought leads to. Now, you may be a person who insists on clinging to the original narrative, and disallowing the discovery of any new evidence derived from the audit to challenge that narrative. That is your prerogative to do so. But it isn't one based on truth or critical thought. It is one based on maintaining a position based solely on believing what you want to believe regardless of what the facts are.
As with any crime, one (group of conspirators) had the Motive, Means, and Opportunity to steal an election, and the evidence strongly points to that being exactly what happened.
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I see you two have edited / deleted the posts in question. I'll take that as a positive sign.
And for the record, you can't hide your post history from the guy that runs the server and the database.
I have not edited any posts on this thread. As for deleted ones, can you show me the post I allegedly deleted since I'm not the guy running the server? Again, if there is something specific I said that you believe crossed the line, then please cite it. We can discuss. But I truly have no clue what you are talking about here.
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Yogi:
"Can't anybody here play this game??"
Fishrrman:
"Can't anybody here stay on the topic??"
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Over on another board watching the "stop the steal" crowd getting creamed by their opponents.
The whole audit effort optics were mismanaged from the start.
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And now the audit potentially backfires.
https://www.azmirror.com/blog/audit-documents-are-public-records-arizona-supreme-court-declines-fanns-appeal/
I really hate to think of what could happen here.
Why is Fann trying to hid this from public scrutiny ?
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And now the audit potentially backfires.
https://www.azmirror.com/blog/audit-documents-are-public-records-arizona-supreme-court-declines-fanns-appeal/
I really hate to think of what could happen here.
Weird how this doesn't apply to the router logs.
Why is Fann trying to hid this from public scrutiny ?
Because it will give the Dems a blueprint on how to obstruct audits in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Nevada, Michigan, and Georgia.
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Weird how this doesn't apply to the router logs.
Because it will give the Dems a blueprint on how to obstruct audits in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Nevada, Michigan, and Georgia.
Yeah,
That sounds real plausible.
Everything like this only provides fuel to the narrative.
I realize that some don't care. That is why Trump is on the outside looking in.
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That sounds real plausible.
Far more plausible than the explanation you provided.
Everything like this only provides fuel to the narrative. I realize that some don't care.
Sounds exactly like something a liberal would say. Zero meaning. Zero relevance.
That is why Trump is on the outside looking in.
Uh, no. Trump is on the outside looking in because enough illegal votes were allowed in a handful of states to tip the election to his opponent, which has just been clinically proven in Arizona. It is already known in Georgia and Pennsylvania, unofficially.
Funny how not once have you challenged a single finding of the audit. This is exactly how liberals behave - blow lots of smoke but never address the facts. What's your handle on DU?
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/09/24/highly-controversial-election-audit-confirms-bidens-win-in-arizona-and-actually-furthers-his-lead/?sh=2a9b74ccaf7f
Just an example of just about all you can read on the net.
I don't like what she says....but it's what is out there.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/09/24/highly-controversial-election-audit-confirms-bidens-win-in-arizona-and-actually-furthers-his-lead/?sh=2a9b74ccaf7f
Just an example of just about all you can read on the net.
I don't like what she says....but it's what is out there.
The article fails to account for the tens of thousands of illegal votes that were included in the tally. The purpose of the audit was not to recount the votes, but to identify votes that did not belong in the total. But then you knew that already before posting the same story that has been discredited countless times on these boards already.
It is crystal clear that you firmly believe elections should be decided by the inclusion of illegal ballots in the total, and that fraud is a legitimate election strategy. It speaks volumes about your integrity.
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It speaks volumes about your integrity.
Come on now..that is uncalled for..
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The article fails to account for the tens of thousands of illegal votes that were included in the tally. The purpose of the audit was not to recount the votes, but to identify votes that did not belong in the total. But then you knew that already before posting the same story that has been discredited countless times on these boards already.
It is crystal clear that you firmly believe elections should be decided by the inclusion of illegal ballots in the total, and that fraud is a legitimate election strategy. It speaks volumes about your integrity.
You only read what you want to read.
I put this up as an example of what is being said "out there".
I didn't say I agree with it.
I am not going to address your accusations.......your opinion means zero (or less) to me.
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You only read what you want to read.
I put this up as an example of what is being said "out there".
I didn't say I agree with it.
I am not going to address your accusations.......your opinion means zero (or less) to me.
If you are saying that the MSM is public enemy #1 welcome to the party! We have long known that here!
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You only read what you want to read.
I put this up as an example of what is being said "out there".
I didn't say I agree with it.
I am not going to address your accusations.......your opinion means zero (or less) to me.
What is being said "out there" depends on what sources you are watching. ABCNNBCBS are parroting the same dreck, with the same buzzwords, same angles, and have been for a few years, now. Needless to say, I do not get my news from there. Social media are a failure, because the biggest two censor viewpoints which do not conform to the same narratives as the MSM.
Newsmax and OAN are two fresher media outlets, as is EPOCH News, and if you are not disinclined, The New American, which I found to be spot on in its analysis and about 6 months ahead of many other outlets in its predictions of developing issues.
There are alternatives to the prolific drivel of the mainstream media, but you have to look for them.
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If you are saying that the MSM is public enemy #1 welcome to the party! We have long known that here!
The MSM is a powerful weapon.
In my opinion, the GOP response has been less than adequate.
It is used to bludgeon the right.
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Come on now..that is uncalled for..
@mystery-ak
Consider two people, Jeff and Bob. Each finds a wallet dropped on the sidewalk with a sizeable amount of cash within.
Jeff examines the ID, tracks down the owner, and reunites the wallet with the owner with all cash intact. I say to Jeff, "Your actions speak of your integrity."
Bob opens the wallet, pulls out the cash, sticks it in his pocket, and then tosses the wallet into the garbage. I say to Bob, "Your actions speak of your integrity."
Now, which of my statements was uncalled for?
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What is being said "out there" depends on what sources you are watching. ABCNNBCBS are parroting the same dreck, with the same buzzwords, same angles, and have been for a few years, now. Needless to say, I do not get my news from there. Social media are a failure, because the biggest two censor viewpoints which do not conform to the same narratives as the MSM.
Newsmax and OAN are two fresher media outlets, as is EPOCH News, and if you are not disinclined, The New American, which I found to be spot on in its analysis and about 6 months ahead of many other outlets in its predictions of developing issues.
There are alternatives to the prolific drivel of the mainstream media, but you have to look for them.
Regardless of who it is.....
I want news where there are facts....
I don't need people telling me how to think about things.
I could never listen to Rush Limbaugh for that reason.
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Regardless of who it is.....
I want news where there are facts....
I don't need people telling me how to think about things.
Then why did you post a link to a story saying that the Arizona audit confirmed that Biden won - an article completely devoid of any facts about the audit's findings regarding the legitimacy of the votes?
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@mystery-ak
Consider two people, Jeff and Bob. Each finds a wallet dropped on the sidewalk with a sizeable amount of cash within.
Jeff examines the ID, tracks down the owner, and reunites the wallet with the owner with all cash intact. I say to Jeff, "Your actions speak of your integrity."
Bob opens the wallet, pulls out the cash, sticks it in his pocket, and then tosses the wallet into the garbage. I say to Bob, "Your actions speak of your integrity."
Now, which of my statements was uncalled for?
*hmmmm*
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Regardless of who it is.....
I want news where there are facts....
I don't need people telling me how to think about things.
I could never listen to Rush Limbaugh for that reason.
While Rush seemed to think many of the same things I had already concluded, he would run up to the door, but not go through and ask the tough questions. My enthusiasm for his commentary waned upon realizing that back during the Clinton Administration.
As for facts, it seems the left is busy editing what "facts" we get to see if we are not willing to dig them out ourselves.
Not to mention placing those events in context that makes them look very different, in effect putting lighting and camera angle effects on the written word. For that reason, I prefer to view the material at its source or as close to that whenever possible.
Even upon reading scientific papers, I have found instances where the conclusions are not supported by, or sometimes even contrary to the data presented, so I'd rather read the whole thing and make up my own mind.
Knowing, for instance that the regimen using Hydroxychloroquine was three parts, and knowing what those parts were supposed to do in the treatment strategy, enabled me to see the deviousness involved (or incompetence, take your pick, but I believe people died as a direct result of the way the studies were structured, and not just those involved as test subjects) in testing just one of the three parts without the others--a test unlikely to produce a good outcome for the patients without the full regimen. Every one of those studies later used to discredit the use of Hydroxychloroquine left out the critical Zinc supplements, which were to be administered to provide the Zinc the Hydroxychloroquine was supposed to transport into the lung cells (Type 1 Pneumocytes) to stop the virus from replicating. In addition, the drug was administered to patients with advanced cases, in hospital, rather than to people whose early onset cases stood the most to benefit.
The studies could not have been designed better to "prove" the drug a failure and damn the treatment regimen, at least in the press, and the patients who received no benefit were on their own to live or die so someone could "prove" a point. As a result, the 'conclusions' drawn were not representative of the regimen's potential and were used (politically) to promote the "vaccine".
Motive? Why would any researcher risk being eventually exposed as having done a study designed to keep millions of people from receiving what later information tends to indicate is an effective treatment for COVID? Why is the same thing being done to demonize Ivermectin (another anti-parasitic drug which also acts to get Zinc through cell membranes). Aside from the fraud associated with the 2020 elections, there is a lot of money to be made, and some researchers get their grant money from the drug companies who stand to make a lot of money.
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Even upon reading scientific papers, I have found instances where the conclusions are not supported by, or sometimes even contrary to the data presented, so I'd rather read the whole thing and make up my own mind.
Yes, history has shown that even hard data can be politicized.
Scientists can look at the same data and reach very different conclusions because very people are unemotional.
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Have at it. For the most part, I don't see that as the trouble.
The Republicans are the problem. If they were doing their job, the left would be toothless.
More of the same ol rah rah bullcrap won't fix a damn thing.
In re-reading some of this thread...I have to say I didn't respond with an Amen to this one.
We make our own destiny.
And letting those a-wipes on the left get away with stuff isn't a good sign.
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In re-reading some of this thread...I have to say I didn't respond with an Amen to this one.
We make our own destiny.
And letting those a-wipes on the left get away with stuff isn't a good sign.
It isn't so much a question of Right vs Left, more of Right vs Wrong.
All too many members of both parties are on the latter side.
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https://twitter.com/WendyRogersAZ/status/1446628581493329921
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https://twitter.com/WendyRogersAZ/status/1446628581493329921
I agree with Wendy.
Yes, as I expected the Brn is dragging his feet again. The Rats and RINOs have broken laws, and Brn has video of miscreants doing the deeds. What more can a Prosecutor ever want?
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@Cyber Liberty
I saw an interview with Kari Lake at one of the Trump rallies. It was encouraging to hear her say that people should be prosecuted over this. Do you know anything about her?
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@Cyber Liberty
I saw an interview with Kari Lake at one of the Trump rallies. It was encouraging to hear her say that people should be prosecuted over this. Do you know anything about her?
Kari Lake is a former newsreader from the Phoenix Fox affiliate. She is saying all the right stuff, but I don't trust her because she donated money to Rats like O'Bastard and Clinton. Trump endorsed her, and I'm not happy about that. She has the potential of being the next Martha McSally, winning the Primary then losing the General Election to Katie Hobbs the crooked SoS who was in on the Big Cheat last year.
I prefer Matt Salmon. He used to be my Congressman.
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Kari Lake is a former newsreader from the Phoenix Fox affiliate. She is saying all the right stuff, but I don't trust her because she donated money to Rats like O'Bastard and Clinton. Trump endorsed her, and I'm not happy about that. She has the potential of being the next Martha McSally, winning the Primary then losing the General Election to Katie Hobbs the crooked SoS who was in on the Big Cheat last year.
I prefer Matt Salmon. He used to be my Congressman.
Thanks. Big Media history is definitely a red flag.
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Kari Lake is a former newsreader from the Phoenix Fox affiliate. She is saying all the right stuff, but I don't trust her because she donated money to Rats like O'Bastard and Clinton. Trump endorsed her, and I'm not happy about that. She has the potential of being the next Martha McSally, winning the Primary then losing the General Election to Katie Hobbs the crooked SoS who was in on the Big Cheat last year.
I prefer Matt Salmon. He used to be my Congressman.
@Cyber Liberty
@mystery-ak
Good to know,even though it will only apply to Az voters,it is still important to ALL of us to be able to identify the up and coming RINO's.
"The longest journey begins with the first step",n all dat!
Myst! May I suggest you start a board in the political section donated ENTIRELY to identifying the up and coming Republican and alleged Republican candidates by locals who are more familar with these creatures than the rest of us,who only know them through press releases and news blips?
We need to be able to identify the posers as early as possible in order to stop them,and we need to indentify the good ones even more quickly because they are much less likely to get any positive press and they will desperately need our support.
As far as that goes,we need to be able to identify the up and coming lefties too,so we can start the fight against they early,before they gain any traction.
Let's not forget,there is still a YUGE batch of voters out there who vote for candidates based on their hair style,accents,and who else is voting for them. We also need to be able to "get to" these people as early as possible because it is pretty easy to sway their votes by using actual moderate facts. I say "moderate" because if we start out by indentifying them as Nazi's or their Communist brothers,we will lose them before the game even begins.
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@sneakypete
That's going to be an awfully big poser board.
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Thanks. Big Media history is definitely a red flag.
@Hoodat
Not always. These people start out as youngsters wanting to be on teebee,and like everybody else,they are fairly ignorant when it comes to reality versus fluff.
There is no sin in not knowing something and being sucked in it by your ignorance.
It is POSSIBLE she was a starry-eyed young idealist,and a few years in the media has opened her eyes to reality.
Let's give these young people the benefit of the doubt until and unless we have reason to doubt them.
25 year old people can be quick to change their viewpoints on politics,music,and anything else you want to mention.
People over 40,not so much. If they have been a rat all their lives,chances are by age 40 they are incapable of being anything else.
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I guess the audit is like this thread.....dead quiet.
There is nothing in the news I could find except that DJT is now looking at PIMA county as a place of potential fraud.
Of course that looks really good. Can't find it here....go find it somewhere....it has to be somewhere.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-switches-arizona-audit-focus-pima-county-demands-loss-biden-decertified-1639613
And all the alleged wrongdoings are getting nothing from anybody that I can see. I searched the net and most articles are weeks old (and all saying what a sham the audit was.....again...don't agree....just saying that is what is out there).
Nothing new.
Time to stick a fork in it ?
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Of course that looks really good. Can't find it here....go find it somewhere....it has to be somewhere.
They already found plenty of fraud in Maricopa County. More than enough of it to sway the election for the entire state. But then you knew that already.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-switches-arizona-audit-focus-pima-county-demands-loss-biden-decertified-1639613
Still posting the lies of left-wing news articles, I see.
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I guess the audit is like this thread.....dead quiet.
There is nothing in the news I could find except that DJT is now looking at PIMA county as a place of potential fraud.
Of course that looks really good. Can't find it here....go find it somewhere....it has to be somewhere.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-switches-arizona-audit-focus-pima-county-demands-loss-biden-decertified-1639613
And all the alleged wrongdoings are getting nothing from anybody that I can see. I searched the net and most articles are weeks old (and all saying what a sham the audit was.....again...don't agree....just saying that is what is out there).
Nothing new.
Time to stick a fork in it ?
The unfortunate reality is that despite incontrovertible anomalies which can be attributed to certain actors and which were of more than sufficient magnitude to change the results of the election, it is those who decide to prosecute or not prosecute a crime who decide whether anything will be done about that crime.
This is at the core of injustice: the innocent are prosecuted, the guilty walk free, despite evidence which proves their guilt because those who should be prosecuting them are in on the crime.
There is no other excuse for nonfeasance.
Stick a fork in it?
Oh, Hell, NO!
The only thing good men need do to let evil prosper is nothing.
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The unfortunate reality is that despite incontrovertible anomalies which can be attributed to certain actors and which were of more than sufficient magnitude to change the results of the election, it is those who decide to prosecute or not prosecute a crime who decide whether anything will be done about that crime.
This is at the core of injustice: the innocent are prosecuted, the guilty walk free, despite evidence which proves their guilt because those who should be prosecuting them are in on the crime.
There is no other excuse for nonfeasance.
Stick a fork in it?
Oh, Hell, NO!
The only thing good men need do to let evil prosper is nothing.
A different conversation.....that we agree on.
The audit was just another "dust in the eye" effort.
However, the entire superstructure that supports this lack of transparency must be taken down.
Getting good prosecution means getting the right people in place.....something we seem to suck at doing.
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They already found plenty of fraud in Maricopa County. More than enough of it to sway the election for the entire state. But then you knew that already.
Still posting the lies of left-wing news articles, I see.
You don't see anything.
I only open your ignored posts as a reminder that you are not what I want to become.
Answer the questions: Did they misquote Harrington ? If not, then the article isn't a lie and Trump is going after PIMA county.
And that's a lie ? Hilarious.
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If anyone can supply some good conservative analysis of the audit, I would be grateful.
All I can find on the net falls in line with the same stupid articles I've already posted (as being stupid....).
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I only open your ignored posts as a reminder that you are not what I want to become.
A left-wing troll?
Answer the questions: Did they misquote Harrington ? If not, then the article isn't a lie
Logic doesn't seem to be your strong suit. Harrington didn't write the article. But Harrington is correct in saying that Pima County needs to be audited. The numbers there alone show an abnormal number of ballots that are not consistent with historical voting patterns. The same type fraud that was proven to have occurred in Maricopa is highly probable to have occurred in Pima.
So it all comes down to whether or not you find election fraud acceptable.
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A left-wing troll?
You are not a left wing troll.
You are a moron.
Logic doesn't seem to be your strong suit. Harrington didn't write the article. But Harrington is correct in saying that Pima County needs to be audited.
Case in point.
I don't recall stating she wrote the article. And I didn't.
I did ask you if she said what the articles stated. Then that is true and claim of lies is garbage.
The numbers there alone show an abnormal number of ballots that are not consistent with historical voting patterns. The same type fraud that was proven to have occurred in Maricopa is highly probable to have occurred in Pima.
Right over your head.
If those numbers were true, then there should have been as much emphasis on the PIMA as Maricopa from the start.
As I said, this looks like a freaking witch hunt. And right now, there is nobody leading the charge for your POV.
And the people who are out in front are sounding more and more like you.....fanatics.
So it all comes down to whether or not you find election fraud acceptable.
We know that you've proven it in your own mind.
Good thing you don't matter.
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2nd call for any analysis from reliable conservative sources on the audit.
So far....nothing.
There is plenty of other B.S. on the net regarding the audit. Talk about a pack of banshees.
Overall, it is seems to be becoming yesterday's news.
What's sad is that the issue of election integrity might well fade with it if we are not careful.
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If those numbers were true, then there should have been as much emphasis on the PIMA as Maricopa from the start.
Populations:
Maricopa county: 4.4 million people
Pima County: 1.04 million people.
The same percentage of fraud would yield roughly four times as many invalid votes in Maricopa as Pima County.
That might mean the difference between exposing fraud which could be of election changing consequence vs fraud which was only marginal. You cast your nets where the most fish are.
There were enough questionable votes in Maricopa County alone to question the results, over three (almost four) times the margin of "victory".
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Populations:
Maricopa county: 4.4 million people
Pima County: 1.04 million people.
The same percentage of fraud would yield roughly four times as many invalid votes in Maricopa as Pima County.
That might mean the difference between exposing fraud which could be of election changing consequence vs fraud which was only marginal. You cast your nets where the most fish are.
There were enough questionable votes in Maricopa County alone to question the results, over three (almost four) times the margin of "victory".
I get that.
What I am saying is that since it wasn't at least raised and then put on the back burner, it looks like a hunt.
We know there is fraud. If we look long enough and in enough places....we'll find it.
That gets you painted as stupid.
Which is what is going on.
Got any good articles on the audit from conservative sources ?
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I get that.
What I am saying is that since it wasn't at least raised and then put on the back burner, it looks like a hunt.
We know there is fraud. If we look long enough and in enough places....we'll find it.
That gets you painted as stupid.
Which is what is going on.
Got any good articles on the audit from conservative sources ?
https://c692f527-da75-4c86-b5d1-8b3d5d4d5b43.filesusr.com/ugd/2f3470_d36cb5eaca56435d84171b4fe7ee6919.pdf
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Hey @HikerGuy83! Do you need a rest from TBR for calling Members "stupid?"
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Got any good articles on the audit from conservative sources ?
You have been provided many, many links. I think the problem is you consider all "conservative" sources bad, because you ignore them and then repeat the same tired leftist cliches.
You remind me of another Member we had some time ago. Considered himself a lover of Jazz.
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Hey @HikerGuy83! Do you need a rest from TBR for calling Members "stupid?"
You can do whatever you like.
However, if you read my post closely, you'll realize I didn't call anyone, in particular, stupid.
If you need me to further clarrify I will.
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You have been provided many, many links. I think the problem is you consider all "conservative" sources bad, because you ignore them and then repeat the same tired leftist cliches.
You remind me of another Member we had some time ago. Considered himself a lover of Jazz.
1. I have not.
2. I have quoted sources that care conservative myself so you drop the prejudiced crap.
3. I don't quote leftist cliche's. I state what I think is real. And the audit has made fools of the GOP, and the banshees are in high gear.
4. The fact that you don't seem to like it when conservatives (or in this case fanatics) are called out isn't my problem.
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Jazzhead reborn.
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You are not a left wing troll.
You are a moron.
. . .
And the people who are out in front are sounding more and more like you.....fanatics.
That gets you painted as stupid.
Moron...fanatic...painted as stupid. Your denial rings rather hollow. So how 'bout you just knock off the personal attacks? I don't care that you prevaricated when I asked you to stop calling people, I'll just get impatient if you do that after this post.
Capisce?
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Jazzhead reborn.
"Jazzhead Revisited." If we pitch it to the BBC as high brow drama they might just buy it...
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Jazzhead reborn.
Meh, more like recycled.
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Moron...fanatic...painted as stupid. Your denial rings rather hollow. So how 'bout you just knock off the personal attacks? I don't care that you prevaricated when I asked you to stop calling people, I'll just get impatient if you do that after this post.
Capisce?
Don't really care what you get.
You can do us both a favor and shut down my account now.
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Don't really care what you get.
You can do us both a favor and shut down my account now.
Now THAT is an offer you can't refuse @Cyber Liberty
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Don't really care what you get.
You can do us both a favor and shut down my account now.
Now that's just silly. Why deprive our good members of a chew toy?
I am most distressed I wasted so much time trying to explain AZ politics to you, and you have rubbished my attempts.
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Don't really care what you get.
You can do us both a favor and shut down my account now.
:seeya:
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I don't recall stating she wrote the article. And I didn't.
I did ask you if she said what the articles stated. Then that is true and claim of lies is garbage.
Here is what you posted:
Answer the questions: Did they misquote Harrington ? If not, then the article isn't a lie
Your conclusion is irrational. You concede that Harrington did not write the article, yet you argue that an article not written by Harrington is true because Harrington told the truth. Like I said, logic is not your strong suit.
Here is the part of the article I am referring to:
The former president and his supporters have not provided evidence substantiating this extraordinary allegation
This is pure unadulterated bovine excrement. The Election 2020 thread alone contains mountains of evidence substantiating this - evidence that you willfully choose to ignore.
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You can do whatever you like.
However, if you read my post closely, you'll realize I didn't call anyone, in particular, stupid.
If you need me to further clarrify I will.
@HikerGuy83
Yew sew smart!
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"Jazzhead Revisited." If we pitch it to the BBC as high brow drama they might just buy it...
@Cyber Liberty
Well,at a minimum they would make it interesting.
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Now that's just silly. Why deprive our good members of a chew toy?
@Cyber Liberty
Exactly! We can all use the comic relief.
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Why not necro this thread and find out the latest.
I can't find jack squat on the web.
And I don't hear jack squat from other sources.
Is the audit dead and buried ?
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What else do you want to know. The Democrats cheated. The audit proved it.
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Not much out there.
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Not much out there.
We're busy.
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We're busy.
Yes, we are.
But clearly, it is not with the audit.
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Arizona: Legal Updates (https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,420390.0.html)
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Yes, we are.
But clearly, it is not with the audit.
You expect us to do your bidding ONE WEEK before an important election?
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You expect us to do your bidding ONE WEEK before an important election?
NOBODY asked you to do anything.
I was pointing out that there isn't much on the net regarding what appears to be a dead and buried audit.
Let me repeat....
NOBODY asked you to do anything.
Capice.
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NOBODY asked you to do anything.
I was pointing out that there isn't much on the net regarding what appears to be a dead and buried audit.
Let me repeat....
NOBODY asked you to do anything.
Capice.
Yeah, I Capich. You are a fool to bring this up now.
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I was pointing out that there isn't much on the net regarding what appears to be a dead and buried audit.
Maybe you should give DU a rest and check out some of the plentiful links that have been posted here, all of which are on this "net" that you mentioned.
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Maricopa 2020 ballots:
•20,232 mismatched signatures
•609 voters not registered at election time
•49 stamped COVID/unable to sign
•17 confirmed dead
•25 duplicate voters
•44 blank
•56 from another state/county
•170 from felony voter right loss
Total failure rate: 21,202
https://twitter.com/Jules31415/status/1587954456297193472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1587954456297193472%7Ctwgr%5Ee6ff6357cb5c6d938563047f11ee27c78a0d4ed3%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdisqus.com%2Fembed%2Fcomments%2F%3Fbase%3Ddefaultf%3Ddian-cechtt_i%3D5474420https3A2F2Fthenewamericanist.com2F3Fp3D54744t_u%3Dhttps3A2F2Fthenewamericanist.com2Fxi-jinping-wins-election-in-brazil2Ft_e%3DXi20Jinping20Wins20Election20In20Brazilt_d%3DXi20Jinping20Wins20Election20In20Brazilt_t%3DXi20Jinping20Wins20Election20In20Brazils_o%3Ddefaultversion%3D0a8def5711578064b1e1f551873450b4 (https://twitter.com/Jules31415/status/1587954456297193472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1587954456297193472%7Ctwgr%5Ee6ff6357cb5c6d938563047f11ee27c78a0d4ed3%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdisqus.com%2Fembed%2Fcomments%2F%3Fbase%3Ddefaultf%3Ddian-cechtt_i%3D5474420https3A2F2Fthenewamericanist.com2F3Fp3D54744t_u%3Dhttps3A2F2Fthenewamericanist.com2Fxi-jinping-wins-election-in-brazil2Ft_e%3DXi20Jinping20Wins20Election20In20Brazilt_d%3DXi20Jinping20Wins20Election20In20Brazilt_t%3DXi20Jinping20Wins20Election20In20Brazils_o%3Ddefaultversion%3D0a8def5711578064b1e1f551873450b4)
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And that was just one county.
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Maricopa 2020 ballots:
•20,232 mismatched signatures
•609 voters not registered at election time
•49 stamped COVID/unable to sign
•17 confirmed dead
•25 duplicate voters
•44 blank
•56 from another state/county
•170 from felony voter right loss
Total failure rate: 21,202
https://twitter.com/Jules31415/status/1587954456297193472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1587954456297193472%7Ctwgr%5Ee6ff6357cb5c6d938563047f11ee27c78a0d4ed3%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdisqus.com%2Fembed%2Fcomments%2F%3Fbase%3Ddefaultf%3Ddian-cechtt_i%3D5474420https3A2F2Fthenewamericanist.com2F3Fp3D54744t_u%3Dhttps3A2F2Fthenewamericanist.com2Fxi-jinping-wins-election-in-brazil2Ft_e%3DXi20Jinping20Wins20Election20In20Brazilt_d%3DXi20Jinping20Wins20Election20In20Brazilt_t%3DXi20Jinping20Wins20Election20In20Brazils_o%3Ddefaultversion%3D0a8def5711578064b1e1f551873450b4 (https://twitter.com/Jules31415/status/1587954456297193472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1587954456297193472%7Ctwgr%5Ee6ff6357cb5c6d938563047f11ee27c78a0d4ed3%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdisqus.com%2Fembed%2Fcomments%2F%3Fbase%3Ddefaultf%3Ddian-cechtt_i%3D5474420https3A2F2Fthenewamericanist.com2F3Fp3D54744t_u%3Dhttps3A2F2Fthenewamericanist.com2Fxi-jinping-wins-election-in-brazil2Ft_e%3DXi20Jinping20Wins20Election20In20Brazilt_d%3DXi20Jinping20Wins20Election20In20Brazilt_t%3DXi20Jinping20Wins20Election20In20Brazils_o%3Ddefaultversion%3D0a8def5711578064b1e1f551873450b4)
I can't read tweets.....
This came from the audit....correct ?
And thank you for sharing.
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I can't read tweets.....
This came from the audit....correct ?
And thank you for sharing.
I'm curious, you couldn't click on the link and read the Twitter posts? because the link worked fine for me.
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I'm curious, you couldn't click on the link and read the Twitter posts? because the link worked fine for me.
The PAC VPN probably blocks it.
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I'm curious, you couldn't click on the link and read the Twitter posts? because the link worked fine for me.
It's my company computer.....it blocks twitter.
I click on it and I get one of those sweet little messages telling me I am trying to look at unauthorized content.
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It's my company computer.....it blocks twitter.
I click on it and I get one of those sweet little messages telling me I am trying to look at unauthorized content.
Well considering that hateful :poo: and lies the liberal wankers post I'd say unauthorized content is an understatement.
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Well considering that hateful :poo: and lies the liberal wankers post I'd say unauthorized content is an understatement.
Hateful describes things, in general.
If Lake had kept her primary message, I'd be a whole lot less enthusiastic about her.
She's morphed and seems on top of key issues.
Less hate....more policy makes a lot of people feel better about things.