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No more division; the country needs bipartisanship
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November 22, 2018
To the Editor:
In the Summer of 2018, Democratic National Committee Chairman Tom Perez declared that a Democratic Socialist, yes, a dues-paying member of the Democratic Socialists of America is the “Future of the Party.†This candidate, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez also believes in abolishing the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency, open borders and also claiming undocumented immigrants deserve “right of passage†into the United States. If this is the future, we can all say goodbye to the United States of America. This “progressive socialist†also wants to offer free tuition, and Medicare for all? The United States Government has enough debt and and higher debt, and higher taxes on the rich isn’t even close enough to even cover a fraction of all the “free†offers. I think we can all agree that our taxes are already high enough living in NJ. I’m trying to figure out what Math classes she forgot to take and if the campaign slogan of choice is now to just offer free stuff that will never happen.
https://hudsonreporter.com/2018/11/22/no-more-division-the-country-needs-bipartisanship/
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"Bipartisanship" = surrender to the democrat-communists.
No thanks.
I prefer my partisanship straight up, if you please.
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"Bipartisanship" = surrender to the democrat-communists.
No thanks.
I prefer my partisanship straight up, if you please.
Yep. Partisanship and strength of convictions go hand in hand.
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Yep. Partisanship and strength of convictions go hand in hand.
Definition hasn't changed.
Bipartisan: synonym for Date Rape.
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Bipartisan: synonym for Date Rape.
#Pubstoo.
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Interesting factoid: The word "bipartisanship" only appears in the publication-supplied headline...nowhere in the actual letter at the link. The letter writer had no intention of demanding it, it is a product of the fevered mind of the editor.
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Interesting factoid: The word "bipartisanship" only appears in the publication-supplied headline...nowhere in the actual letter at the link. The letter writer had no intention of demanding it, it is a product of the fevered mind of the editor.
I do see "bi-partisanship" in the third paragraph of the letter.
However your point remains quite well-made; "bipartisanship" is *not* the theme of the letter. If anything the letter advocates Republican policies.
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I do see "bi-partisanship" in the third paragraph of the letter.
However your point remains quite well-made; "bipartisanship" is *not* the theme of the letter. If anything the letter advocates Republican policies.
I missed the hyphen. :shrug:
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It'll be sad to watch the country fall apart after the left takes complete control due to Republicans being averse to any compromise.
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It'll be sad to watch the country fall apart after the left takes complete control due to Republicans being averse to any compromise.
What would you *specifically* recommend the Republicans compromise on @Dexter Do tell.
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What would you *specifically* recommend the Republicans compromise on @Dexter Do tell.
Social conservatism. I've said it a dozen times already. Economic conservative issues are winners at the polls. Social conservative issues are losers, and it's getting worse. Christianity will be the doom of economic conservatism.
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I do see "bi-partisanship" in the third paragraph of the letter.
However your point remains quite well-made; "bipartisanship" is *not* the theme of the letter. If anything the letter advocates Republican policies.
FTA:
My Parents emigrated here from Germany and Slovakia as well as millions of others legally waited and followed the law to emigrate to the USA. They fought to live, to find work, to pay bills, raise a family and live the American Dream by following the law. What has changed? Why is it that our representatives care more about those not even in the USA yet? What about the voters, here and now who live here, work here and pay some of the highest taxes in NJ.
We have all heard about free this and free that but in all honesty, nothing is ever free and the taxpayer will ultimately pay the price like we have for years. People want different ideas and solutions that show progress and not just empty words, or punch lines. Voters want true leadership, problem solvers, bi-partisanship and someone who dares to be different. How about cutting taxes on small business, middle class and providing more tax breaks for smaller business and not just big business? By the way, what ever happened to that “Public Bank†the Governor campaigned on?
JOHN MILAN SEBIK
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Social conservatism. I've said it a dozen times already. Economic conservative issues are winners at the polls. Social conservative issues are losers, and it's getting worse. Christianity will be the doom of economic conservatism.
You cannot have one without the other. Socially liberal policies ultimately lead to bigger government, because people demand the government pay for their choices.
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Social conservatism. I've said it a dozen times already. Economic conservative issues are winners at the polls. Social conservative issues are losers, and it's getting worse. Christianity will be the doom of economic conservatism.
Yes, "social conservatism" seems pretty easy to cast off for some people. Good luck with that, @Dexter.
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You cannot have one without the other.
I very much disagree. There are secular conservatives. Economic conservatism can exist completely independent of social conservatism. I think the real issue is a lot of Christian conservatives care about the social issues more than the economic ones. Because of that they will go down with the ship over the social issues and take the economy with them.
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Yes, "social conservatism" seems pretty easy to cast off for some people. Good luck with that, @Dexter.
It's a futile effort I am realizing. Conservatism in the United States will be gone within two decades.
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50 years of watching politics has taught me that "bi-partisanhip" is a mere buzz word that means liberals want their way, even when they are not in control.
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It's a futile effort I am realizing. Conservatism in the United States will be gone within two decades.
And you will live with the consequences. :smokin:
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And you will live with the consequences. :smokin:
Thanks for that.
:thumbsup:
We young people get to live with all kinds of consequences due to absurdity that happened before we even entered this world.
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It's a futile effort I am realizing. Conservatism in the United States will be gone within two decades.
"Convert or die."
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"Convert or die."
Scoffing at reality doesn't make it any less real.
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It's a futile effort I am realizing. Conservatism in the United States will be gone within two decades.
And 50 years after that, conservatism will be back with a vengeance because leftist policies ALWAYS devolve into totalitarianism....it’s the natural progression. And eventually via external wars or internal revolutions, the people will yearn to throw off that yoke.
Personally, I’d prefer a dissolution of this country into two or three. I’d much rather an amicable divorce than a murder-suicide.
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And 50 years after that, conservatism will be back with a vengeance because leftist policies ALWAYS devolve into totalitarianism....it’s the natural progression. And eventually via external wars or internal revolutions, the people will yearn to throw off that yoke.
Personally, I’d prefer a dissolution of this country into two or three. I’d much rather an amicable divorce than a murder-suicide.
Thanks to technology there's a good chance that the next wave of authoritarianism will never be defeated.
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Thanks to technology there's a good chance that the next wave of authoritarianism will never be defeated.
@Dexter
1). Then you should wise up and stop supporting those things that will lead to authoritarianism and abdicating the fight before it’s been lost
2). I’ll take mans innate desire to be free over technology any and every day.
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Social conservatism. I've said it a dozen times already. Economic conservative issues are winners at the polls. Social conservative issues are losers, and it's getting worse. Christianity will be the doom of economic conservatism.
If you've said it a dozen times, then nobody's hearing it...like @dfwgator said, you can't have one without the other. That's the flaw in your argument.
The recently held midterms just set off a claymore mine to your argument: best economy in history according to Trump, yet the Pubbies got their hats handed to them in the House and local elections.
How do you explain THAT?
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And 50 years after that, conservatism will be back with a vengeance because leftist policies ALWAYS devolve into totalitarianism....it’s the natural progression. And eventually via external wars or internal revolutions, the people will yearn to throw off that yoke.
IOW, "Who is John Galt?"
History has taught us many times how civilizations rise and fall. The great experiment known as the United States is not immune to the forces of history. It will eventually fall, all we can do is our best to prolong its destruction.
First step is to nuke Washington DC. Second step is to pull out 535 random names from phone books throughout the country to replace the House and Senate. Third step is to reestablish the primacy of the 10th Amendment.
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Scoffing at reality doesn't make it any less real.
Ok, accept the reality you are trying to force the GOP into or die. Better?
Maybe you don't understand chucking Socons out of the party will kill what's left of it. I think you may be barking up the wrong party.
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Social conservatism. I've said it a dozen times already. Economic conservative issues are winners at the polls. Social conservative issues are losers, and it's getting worse. Christianity will be the doom of economic conservatism.
If you are failing to get any traction on a conservative site it might be because everybody read it a dozen times and have concluded you're full of it. Another dozen won't do the trick.
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Ok, accept the reality you are trying to force the GOP into or die. Better?
Maybe you don't understand chucking Socons out of the party will kill what's left of it. I think you may be barking up the wrong party.
Socons have been used as the custodial staff on the Trump Train, and are treated accordingly.
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Another reflection.
Conservatism is a body of enduring Ideas and Principles pre-dating the Greeks.
These govern conduct involving the attitudes and behaviors of human nature
that are independent of economics, politics and religion.
Kirk enumerated several, as below:
* The Family Unit is the eternal bedrock of Civilization.
* Custom and continuity stabilize culture/society.
* The Principle of Prescription recognizes precedent as superior to current whim.
* The Principle of Prudence mandates decisions now be measured against future consequences.
* The Principle of Subsidiarity requires authority be devolved to the lowest level of the social order.
* Mankind is created unequal by the Soul, therefore variety is the catalyst for creativity.
* Man is not perfectible, so tolerance must be promoted.
* Private property and personal freedom are catalysts for individual responsibility.
* Communal voluntarism is superior to collective coercion.
* The impulse toward Power must be curtailed for the nation/state to survive and thrive.
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Another reflection.
Conservatism is a body of enduring Ideas and Principles pre-dating the Greeks.
These govern conduct involving the attitudes and behaviors of human nature
that are independent of economics, politics and religion.
Kirk enumerated several, as below:
* The Family Unit is the eternal bedrock of Civilization.
* Custom and continuity stabilize culture/society.
* The Principle of Prescription recognizes precedent as superior to current whim.
* The Principle of Prudence mandates decisions now be measured against future consequences.
* The Principle of Subsidiarity requires authority be devolved to the lowest level of the social order.
* Mankind is created unequal by the Soul, therefore variety is the catalyst for creativity.
* Man is not perfectible, so tolerance must be promoted.
* Private property and personal freedom are catalysts for individual responsibility.
* Communal voluntarism is superior to collective coercion.
* The impulse toward Power must be curtailed for the nation/state to survive and thrive.
IOW, we're screwed. Republicans have failed as badly as the Democrats.
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Related opinions:
For myself, this distinction between economic and social
conservatism is both meaningless and pointless.
Further, the notion that the R Party was and is Conservative
is beyond absurd.
It was formed around 1850 as an Anti-Slavery Party
and supported by the Northern Mercantile Class.
Post Civil War it championed centralized government
rejecting States Rights; a legacy that engulfs us now.
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It'll be sad to watch the country fall apart after the left takes complete control due to Republicans being averse to any compromise.
I find it amazing that the democrats are never expected to compromise. One always hears the democrats demand that the Republicans share power when the Republicans have the majority, the democrats demand the Republicans be fair when the Republicans have the majority, the democrats cry out for bipartisanship when the Republicans have the majority........................and do you know what the Republicans hear from the democrats when the democrats have the majority?, they hear the whole of the democrat party yell *UCK YOU!
Screw bipartisanship! that's my story and I'm sticking to it! 9999hair out0000
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I find it amazing that the democrats are never expected to compromise. One always hears the democrats demand that the Republicans share power when the Republicans have the majority, the democrats demand the Republicans be fair when the Republicans have the majority, the democrats cry out for bipartisanship when the Republicans have the majority........................and do you know what the Republicans hear from the democrats when the democrats have the majority?, they hear the whole of the democrat party yell *UCK YOU!
Screw bipartisanship! that's my story and I'm sticking to it! 9999hair out0000
They're just as stubborn, maybe more. The difference is they're winning.