The Briefing Room
General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: Emjay on January 22, 2018, 10:47:16 pm
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Were California a Country It’d be the 17th Most Unequal Nation on Earth, Ahead of Mexico & Guatemala.
Californians love sermonizing on the plight of America’s poor and disenfranchised—if only penny-pinching republicans would shell out for a bigger welfare state then all our problems would be solved. Why not build more homes for the homeless, or invest in better education for our kids? The state can solve the problem of poverty, they argue.
And to be fair, they’ve put their money where their mouth is: over the last few decades California has built one of America’s most lavish welfare states. There’s just one problem: it’s not working.
The sad truth of the matter is that California’s poverty rate is the highest in the country, at 20.6 percent. This is based on data from the US Census Bureau, and modified so as to account for differences in the cost of living between states. And if you’re a skeptical “progressive†then don’t worry, even Politifact confirmsthis finding.
https://nationaleconomicseditorial.com/2018/01/17/californian-income-inequality-tops-mexico/
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So many homeless encampments a few miles from mansions and yet, there are no shelters available for these people. A ten year wait in most shelters.
But they pride themselves on being a Sanctuary State.
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Wine Country there in Nor Cal has been hiring illegals by the truck load to do the farm work.
5 or 6 years ago there was a story that Wine Country was in trouble because the Illegals were self deporting back to Mexico for better wages.
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California is uneven, for certain. Orange County is just over 3 million. Several billionaires and homeless not far away.
I used to be somewhat amazed to see people going through trash in the ally behind very expensive homes on the sand on "the peninsula." (Balboa Peninsula)
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So many homeless encampments a few miles from mansions and yet, there are no shelters available for these people. A ten year wait in most shelters.
But they pride themselves on being a Sanctuary State.
Need any more proof that the Dems don't give a Hoot about the people they're always in a rage about? The little people?
It's never about anything but themselves and their Unions/Money.
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So many homeless encampments a few miles from mansions and yet, there are no shelters available for these people. A ten year wait in most shelters.
But they pride themselves on being a Sanctuary State.
The fact is most "homeless" are drug addicts and alcoholics. A series of articles for the OC Register, interviewed over 1,000 homeless on the Santa Ana River.
They were asked "if help were offered, would they accept it?"
Out of over 1,000 questioned, 90% said they did not want help; they were okay as they were.
"Help" means rules, and rules mean no drugs, curfew etc. As it is, they are free to steal things, break into homes, deal and use drugs.
If caught, they are out in hours, with paper citations.
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The very predictable consequence of socialism.
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Geez. Invite all the garbage from Mexico to show up in your state and then be surprised that your state has turned into Mexico. Shocking.
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The fact is most "homeless" are drug addicts and alcoholics. A series of articles for the OC Register, interviewed over 1,000 homeless on the Santa Ana River.
They were asked "if help were offered, would they accept it?"
Out of over 1,000 questioned, 90% said they did not want help; they were okay as they were.
"Help" means rules, and rules mean no drugs, curfew etc. As it is, they are free to steal things, break into homes, deal and use drugs.
If caught, they are out in hours, with paper citations.
Much of what you say is true, but something is very wrong in California.
Yeah, homeless flock there because they don't freeze to death in winter.
But can't California do SOMETHING? I mean at least provide shelters for them to sleep in at night.
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Geez. Invite all the garbage from Mexico to show up in your state and then be surprised that your state has turned into Mexico. Shocking.
Yep. Wonder how many of those homeless are benefiting from the sanctuary city status?
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Yep. Wonder how many of those homeless are benefiting from the sanctuary city status?
I don't see homeless Hispanics. I see homeless anglo drug addicts.
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And it will get worse
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Much of what you say is true, but something is very wrong in California.
Yeah, homeless flock there because they don't freeze to death in winter.
But can't California do SOMETHING? I mean at least provide shelters for them to sleep in at night.
California's $200 Billion Train To Nowhere Needs $300 Million More
http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/train-to-nowhere-scam-needs-300-million-more-now/ (http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/train-to-nowhere-scam-needs-300-million-more-now/)
Senator Feinstein's Husband Wins $35 Million Per Mile Rail Contract From California
https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/187357/senator-feinsteins-husband-wins-35-mil-mile-rail-daniel-greenfield (https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/187357/senator-feinsteins-husband-wins-35-mil-mile-rail-daniel-greenfield)
The Syndicate that owns California does Plenty for themselves.
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Much of what you say is true, but something is very wrong in California.
Yeah, homeless flock there because they don't freeze to death in winter.
But can't California do SOMETHING? I mean at least provide shelters for them to sleep in at night.
What do you want any state to "do about it?"
Any cop today says "it isn't against the law" to be homeless. That wasn't always true, for there used to be laws against vagrancy.
There also used to be laws here, against sleeping in vehicles overnight.
Finally many homeless are here, due to Obamacare which requires "Essential Health Benefits," including substance treatment. Providers solicit (use headhunters) mainly addicts across the entire country, "hey want to go to Cali, free housing, free food, get clean, go to the beach, go to the gym, etc."
When treatment is over, they get dumped (curbed is the term.)
I do not expect Republicans to strip this from reimbursed "healthcare" now in view of the national panic over "opioid crisis" etc.
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Much of what you say is true, but something is very wrong in California.
Yeah, homeless flock there because they don't freeze to death in winter.
But can't California do SOMETHING? I mean at least provide shelters for them to sleep in at night.
There are shelters all over the place. And because there are, it attracts more homeless from other states further increasing the demand for shelters. And once here, the perks and weather are better than where they came from so they don't leave.
Give away free hamburgers and see how long it takes you to have a serious shortage of hamburgers...
A decade or so ago Santa Cruz city government decided they were very compassionate so they organized and widely advertised a "homeless convention". Homeless came from all over the county to attend. And then they didn't leave because they liked it there... It was a disaster for Santa Cruz and they are still dealing the consequences to this day.
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I was in San Diego for business meetings in 1998 and 2005. Both times, the Gaslamp District was overrun with homeless and panhandlers. Don't know if it's gotten better or worse, since then.
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I was in San Diego for business meetings in 1998 and 2005. Both times, the Gaslamp District was overrun with homeless and panhandlers. Don't know if it's gotten better or worse, since then.
Feinstein and Pelosi's Home Town is such a disaster there's an actual Human Poop On The Streets map of it online.
http://mochimachine.org/wasteland/ (http://mochimachine.org/wasteland/)
It used to be just downtown in the Tenderloin District where it was 24/7 Hookers on every corner.
Let Libs go unopposed and it keeps getting worse in a big hurry.
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Obviously, the wealthy in California aren't paying nearly enough in taxes. Otherwise, why would there be so much poverty? :nometalk:
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Geez. Invite all the garbage from Mexico to show up in your state and then be surprised that your state has turned into Mexico. Shocking.
You should look at school data. High drop out rates. 54% of the total school population was Hispanic/Latino. And that is the story.
https://www.cde.ca.gov/ds/sd/cb/ceffingertipfacts.asp (https://www.cde.ca.gov/ds/sd/cb/ceffingertipfacts.asp)
https://www.cde.ca.gov/nr/ne/yr16/yr16rel38.asp (https://www.cde.ca.gov/nr/ne/yr16/yr16rel38.asp)
(Little Mexico)
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Wine Country there in Nor Cal has been hiring illegals by the truck load to do the farm work.
5 or 6 years ago there was a story that Wine Country was in trouble because the Illegals were self deporting back to Mexico for better wages.
Looks like Piglosi just lost her labor force working in her vineyards.
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The very predictable consequence of socialism.
The State of California is in a race with the city of Seattle to the pits of Progressivism Hell it seems
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The State of California is in a race with the city of Seattle to the pits of Progressivism Hell it seems
They're too obsessed with themselves to even notice another City except when they need another, better, newer con to further rip off the tax payers at home.
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Obviously, the wealthy in California aren't paying nearly enough in taxes. Otherwise, why would there be so much poverty? :nometalk:
The big story here is the bill circulating in the CA legislature that would force corporations to give half of their brand new tax break to the state, instead of to their employees.
The leftist slugs may just go too far in the mind of the California voter yet. The working voter, that is.
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The big story here is the bill circulating in the CA legislature that would force corporations to give half of their brand new tax break to the state, instead of to their employees.
The leftist slugs may just go too far in the mind of the California voter yet. The working voter, that is.
That thought would never occur to them, no matter How many more working class Citizen Tax Payers they run right out of the State.
They'll howl Racist even louder and have their House Rats tack on California Special Fiscal Relief riders into every bill they can sneak them into.
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You should look at school data. High drop out rates. 54% of the total school population was Hispanic/Latino. And that is the story.
https://www.cde.ca.gov/ds/sd/cb/ceffingertipfacts.asp (https://www.cde.ca.gov/ds/sd/cb/ceffingertipfacts.asp)
https://www.cde.ca.gov/nr/ne/yr16/yr16rel38.asp (https://www.cde.ca.gov/nr/ne/yr16/yr16rel38.asp)
(Little Mexico)
Many of those Hispanics are grandchildren of Hispanics people I grew up with.
For those not aware, California and Texas have had lots of native born Hispanic citizens dating to the early 1800s when the Anglos went there.
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Looks like Piglosi just lost her labor force working in her vineyards.
It's odd about people and their willingness to work or not work.
Maui lost its sugar industry a little over a year ago. The last plant closed and the last crop was planted and harvested. There were two main problems. It was expensive to produce and sugar prices went down. But the main reason was, they couldn't get workers willing to work in the sugar fields. At one time, they had a lot of Japanese workers.
Hawaii is poor ... at least the native population and other residents are fairly poor; yet we are surrounded by super wealthy from the mainland. A lot of those wealthy have homes here that they never visit or at least seldom visit and tourism is the main industry.
But in spite of the need for jobs, no one would work in the cane fields. At least not enough people.
And, this is a great place to be homeless. The weather is always good.
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Many of those Hispanics are grandchildren of Hispanics people I grew up with.
For those not aware, California and Texas have had lots of native born Hispanic citizens dating to the early 1800s when the Anglos went there.
I am not talking about legal immigrants or natural born Hispanic citizens. We have legal Hispanic citizens in our family. Here are some numbers on illegal Hispanic aliens. Texas and California are on top followed by Arizona...........
http://www.pewhispanic.org/interactives/unauthorized-immigrants/ (http://www.pewhispanic.org/interactives/unauthorized-immigrants/)
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That thought would never occur to them, no matter How many more working class Citizen Tax Payers they run right out of the State.
They'll howl Racist even louder and have their House Rats tack on California Special Fiscal Relief riders into every bill they can sneak them into.
I have a lot of family still living in California, mostly Southern.
What do you say to them without sounding crazy?
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At the rate California is going, in 40 years this:
(https://gdb.voanews.com/80BE03E4-84DE-4E9A-9B86-291ABCCF685B_w650_r1_s.png)
... will have been converted into a shelter for the homeless and illegal immigrant "refugees" ...
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I have a lot of family still living in California, mostly Southern.
What do you say to them without sounding crazy?
Get out now before Moonbeam leaves you so broke you can't afford to rent the truck.
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I have a lot of family still living in California, mostly Southern.
What do you say to them without sounding crazy?
Basic law of nature. What can't continue won't continue. The state cannot continue doing what its doing without driving businesses out of state and losing its tax base which it is doing full speed ahead. When the consequences of that come to full fruition, real estate prices are going to crash again like they did here in 2007, perhaps worse. You don't want to be left holding property when the music stops... You're screwed at that point. Your taxes will continue but your income will not. I'm in the process of buying a home in AZ right now and unloading all my property in California.
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That's because in Mexico, the rich keep their money off the books.
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Congrats California Liberals...you got EXACTLY the state you were hoping for.
No wonder the rest of California wants to separate from you.