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Title: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Wingnut on September 08, 2016, 04:38:39 am
By Jason Easley on Wed, Sep 7th, 2016 at 8:57 pm
Donald Trump gave what was nothing less than the worst performance of a nominee in modern political history. Trump confirmed that he knows nothing, and is proud of his ignorance.

Trump began by telling America that he was fit to be commander in chief because he is a business man. Trump once again praised his own judgment and lied about his opposition to the war in Iraq.

Lauer asked Trump if the country can afford to take the temperament risk on him. Trump brought up the Mexico trip and claimed that the firestorm his trip caused in Mexico was a victory.

Trump was asked about his claim that he knows more about ISIS than the generals, and he avoided the question. Lauer asked Trump if he lost faith in the military commanders. Trump did a song and dance about how trusts the military commanders, but he doesn’t trust Hillary Clinton.

A vet who is a Democrat asked Trump about his secret plan to defeat ISIS and asked what his plan for the region is. Trump repeated the question about how the US has invaded and never had a plan. Trump lied and claimed that Obama pulled out all of the troops, and that is how ISIS was formed. Trump repeated his babbling that the US should take the oil. Lauer asked how the oil would be taken, and Trump mumbled something about leaving people behind to take the oil.

Trump was asked what his plan is, and he rambled on while incoherently not mentioning a plan.

Trump was asked if an undocumented person who plans to serve in the armed forces should be allowed to stay in the country. Trump said that it would be a special circumstance, and they would be allowed to stay.

Listening to Trump speak, it was clear that the Republican nominee was making it up as he went along. Trump was asked a question about relations with Russia, and he touted Putin’s approval rating. Lauer asked Trump if he would accept a compliment from Putin, and Trump said that he would take the compliment when Putin called him brilliant. Trump praised Putin for being a leader and claimed that he is a better leader than Obama.

Trump was asked what his specific plan was to help veterans, and he claimed that Clinton said she was satisfied with how things are going at the VA. Trump went on to basically admit that his plan for the VA is privatization, while he said that he is opposed to privatization.

Trump was asked what his plan was to deal with the vet suicide epidemic, and he called the VA, which not five minutes before, he vowed not to privatize a corrupt enterprise.

Donald Trump stood by his 2013 tweet that blamed military rapes on the victims.

Lauer asked Trump what he was reading and how he was preparing to be commander in chief. Trump claimed that he is studying “a lot,” but then he talked about how busy he is and how many hats he is wearing. Trump claimed that he doesn’t need knowledge because he has “a common sense.”

If the CIC forum was the first commander in chief test Trump failed miserably. Donald Trump was unprepared, unknowledgeable, and he had no plan to address any of the issues that were posed to him.

Donald Trump gave the worst performance of a modern presidential nominee in any forum in the last thirty years. Trump confirmed everything that Democrats have been saying. He was unprepared, winging it, and the last person anyone should trust with the commander in chief responsibilities.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/07/trump-bombs-delivers-historically-terrible-performance-commander-chief-forum.html
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: R4 TrumPence on September 08, 2016, 04:41:53 am
what a load of crap :silly:  of course consider the writer is a hillary stooge and it is a liberal rag :nono:
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: jedidah on September 08, 2016, 04:44:31 am
I thought he did better than expected.  (And I didn't expect much.)

They were both terrible.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on September 08, 2016, 04:49:19 am
what a load of crap :silly:  of course consider the writer is a hillary stooge and it is a liberal rag :nono:

I watched and I am again dumbfounded that this is the GOP nominee.  Trump is "making it up as he goes along" and any fair minded observer would conclude the same.  The man is a moron who could only name one of his military "show" advisors.  Sad days ahead.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Wingnut on September 08, 2016, 04:52:38 am
I thought he did better than expected.  (And I didn't expect much.)

They were both terrible.

Pretty poor performance  This was a warm up for the debates with a very weak Matt Lauer and Trump winged it like the chump he is.  He is going to get killed when it is the real thing.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Vulcan on September 08, 2016, 05:01:29 am
Quote
Trump once again praised his own judgment and lied about his opposition to the war in Iraq

Yes he did.  But to the Trump faithful, lies only matter if it's Hillary telling them.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Frank Cannon on September 08, 2016, 05:38:35 am
I am dumbfounded that Donny didn't have decent answers for questions he knew he was getting about all the absurd statements he made in the past. He genuinely believes if he just talks a bunch of nonsensical words people will be stunned by his brilliance and move on when the opposite is true. He looked like a senile clown tonight.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Chosen Daughter on September 08, 2016, 05:53:06 am
I watched and I am again dumbfounded that this is the GOP nominee.  Trump is "making it up as he goes along" and any fair minded observer would conclude the same.  The man is a moron who could only name one of his military "show" advisors.  Sad days ahead.

He kept trying to bring his paper with the Generals names on it out.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on September 08, 2016, 06:00:46 am
He kept trying to bring his paper with the Generals names on it out.

You watched too.  Sorry you wasted 30 minutes of your life getting the same stale stock answers you've heard for the last year.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: mrclose on September 08, 2016, 06:03:20 am
He kept trying to bring his paper with the Generals names on it out.
Could have worn an ear wick like cheating Hillary did!
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Chosen Daughter on September 08, 2016, 06:03:43 am
You watched too.  Sorry you wasted 30 minutes of your life getting the same stale stock answers you've heard for the last year.

Me too!  That's thirty minutes I could have been doing something else.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: DCPatriot on September 08, 2016, 06:14:43 am
http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=36600 (http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=36600)

 :whistle:
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Gefn on September 08, 2016, 07:39:39 am
I thought he did better than expected.  (And I didn't expect much.)

They were both terrible.

I saw 10 minutes of Hillary and turned the TV set off for the night.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: jedidah on September 08, 2016, 12:59:12 pm
He genuinely believes if he just talks a bunch of nonsensical words people will be stunned by his brilliance and move on when the opposite is true.

A good part of the electorate is indeed stunned.  I know some of them.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Ghost Bear on September 08, 2016, 01:02:38 pm
Pretty poor performance  This was a warm up for the debates with a very weak Matt Lauer and Trump winged it like the chump he is.  He is going to get killed when it is the real thing.

Interesting that you thought Lauer was weak. One of the complaints that I heard on a local radio talk show this morning was that Lauer was too tough, on both candidates.  Hmm.

I haven't seen it myself.  Wife recorded it on the DVR. I don't know if I'll watch it, since I'm not going to vote for either one.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: jedidah on September 08, 2016, 01:06:10 pm
http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=36600 (http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=36600)

 :whistle:

An online poll.

 :thud:

Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: jedidah on September 08, 2016, 01:10:12 pm
Could have worn an ear wick like cheating Hillary did!

I read a bunch of the internet buzz about her left ear and have no idea what the shiny object was.   She was awful last night, but did ramble and filibuster in clear and complete sentences.  I'm really not sure how she could do that while listening to someone talking in one ear.

More likely she's got a hearing loss and in-the-ear aid.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Cripplecreek on September 08, 2016, 01:11:56 pm
An online poll.

 :thud:

From an off the wall website that none of us ever heard of before this election.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: ConstitutionRose on September 08, 2016, 01:19:35 pm
My thoughts are that neither candidate did themselves any good.  Hillary is so bad that the Republican candidate should have voters from both parties lining up to support him.  But since it is Trump...even the cats gapped at the TV during the "Generals" bit.  That is all anyone is going to hear on the news for next several days and that is going to be lodged in the minds of voters.  If Trump ACTUALLY cared about making this country great again he'd invest in preparing himself, not only for the debates but for the office itself. 

I'm going to vote some third party candidate.  I'm not wild about any of them, but I think that both parties need to hear a message from the voters.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: sinkspur on September 08, 2016, 01:22:32 pm
But you know what?

Trumpkins don't care what Trump says, or that he's dumb as a stump, or lies or contradicts himself or plays the fool.  We live in a reality TV world, and many on our side are infected with style over substance just like most of the rest of the country. 

When an ignoramus like Trump can compete for the highest office in the land, you know you live in a very stupid country.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: libertybele on September 08, 2016, 01:30:17 pm
Trump FAILED miserably last night.  He is an embarrassment to the nation, he is an embarrassment to the party.  Those of you who support him or supported him ARE RESPONSIBLE for handing Hillary the White House!! By his lack of performance during the forum it was painfully obvious that he lacks the intelligence, knowledge and experience to be Commander In Chief!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=THPVoGTEGVk
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Jazzhead on September 08, 2016, 01:33:44 pm
It is our patriotic duty to see to this man's defeat.   
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: libertybele on September 08, 2016, 01:53:01 pm
The logic or better yet lack of logic of the Trump supporters astounds me.  For months the orange baboon has gone before crowds and repeated the same rhetoric over and over again and when the rhetoric was criticized he then flip-flopped.  He never went into depth on any issue he was speaking about and it became painfully apparent (to non-Trumpsters) that he just didn't have any in depth knowledge of the issues period. He won by exciting the electorate with 'hot' issues, insulting and attacking others and out and out lying.  Let's not forget the large number of DEMS that voted for him in the open primaries!

The polls for months indicated that he was the least likely of ALL candidates that could beat Hillary; because of his bombastic, narcissistic personality and his lack of experience and knowledge.  Yet you Trumpsters continued to buy into his rhetoric.  Duh ... it's ok that he'd shoot someone and he'd still have support!

Dear Trumpsters, you've been duped!  Please wake up and realize you have other options besides handing Hillary the White House:

Daryl Castle - Constitution Party

Evan McMullin - Independent

Gary Johnson - Libertarian Party
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Night Hides Not on September 08, 2016, 01:59:32 pm
The logic or better yet lack of logic of the Trump supporters astounds me.  For months the orange baboon has gone before crowds and repeated the same rhetoric over and over again and when the rhetoric was criticized he then flip-flopped.  He never went into depth on any issue he was speaking about and it became painfully apparent (to non-Trumpsters) that he just didn't have any in depth knowledge of the issues period. He won by exciting the electorate with 'hot' issues, insulting and attacking others and out and out lying.  Let's not forget the large number of DEMS that voted for him in the open primaries!

The polls for months indicated that he was the least likely of ALL candidates that could beat Hillary; because of his bombastic, narcissistic personality and his lack of experience and knowledge.  Yet you Trumpsters continued to buy into his rhetoric.  Duh ... it's ok that he'd shoot someone and he'd still have support!

Dear Trumpsters, you've been duped!  Please wake up and realize you have other options besides handing Hillary the White House:

Daryl Castle - Constitution Party

Evan McMullin - Independent

Gary Johnson - Libertarian Party

Where's "None of the Above"? However, I will be checking out Mr. Castle as my last option.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: EC on September 08, 2016, 02:01:28 pm
The author's pathetically weak grasp of invective and the correct use of emotive indexes totally undermines the point he is trying to make.

Trump was TERRIBLE. Not bad, not "unprepared," not "having a bad night" ... but toilet shattering, sewer blocking, natural disaster level, epicly shit.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: libertybele on September 08, 2016, 02:02:45 pm
Where's "None of the Above"? However, I will be checking out Mr. Castle as my last option.

You can always write in your vote; but unless who you are writing in has qualified as a write-in candidate that vote will not be counted and will be merely symbolic.

I would encourage you to read and listen to the Beck interview of Castle.

http://www.glennbeck.com/2016/08/25/glenn-talks-with-constitution-party-candidate-darrell-castle/
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: goatprairie on September 08, 2016, 02:09:55 pm
A good part of the electorate is indeed stunned.  I know some of them.
After perusing the comments of the most of the people on TOS, there is virtually nothing Trump can say or do that will not be pronounced as "brilliant" or "genius" by those fools.
The slightest criticism of Genghis Con, even by people who say they will vote for Trump,  brings a firestorm of abuse by the usual suspects. FreeRepublic is truly a madhouse now.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: goatprairie on September 08, 2016, 02:11:13 pm
Interesting that you thought Lauer was weak. One of the complaints that I heard on a local radio talk show this morning was that Lauer was too tough, on both candidates.  Hmm.

I haven't seen it myself.  Wife recorded it on the DVR. I don't know if I'll watch it, since I'm not going to vote for either one.  :shrug:
I didn't watch...can't stand either candidate....but Lauer must have accidentally done a good job since he's being slammed by both camps.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: guitar4jesus on September 08, 2016, 02:12:10 pm
Thanks for posting video, @libertybele.  I watched the Trump part earlier but couldn't find a link to the Hillary part.

You can certainly tell she's spent a lifetime with Bill.... Same techniques he uses, interrupting moderator, speaking manner, posturing.

Trump was his usual, word salad, zero specifics, flustered off the cuff remarks.  If this is what he brings to the debates, Hillary will be enjoying a major uptick in the polls shortly after.

Of course, I stand by my observation that he's in it to win it for Hillary.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: goatprairie on September 08, 2016, 02:16:24 pm
But you know what?

Trumpkins don't care what Trump says, or that he's dumb as a stump, or lies or contradicts himself or plays the fool.  We live in a reality TV world, and many on our side are infected with style over substance just like most of the rest of the country. 

When an ignoramus like Trump can compete for the highest office in the land, you know you live in a very stupid country.
Many of the Trumpsters have convinced themselves that only Pubbie "elites" do not like Trump. They completely fail to understand that millions of average Pubbies detest Trump for very good reasons. Even millions of Pubbies who are resigned to voting for Trump because of Hillary do not like him.
But the Trumpsters are happy in their ignorance.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Wingnut on September 08, 2016, 02:23:25 pm
It is our patriotic duty to see to this man's defeat.   

Defeated and humiliated never to be heard from again.  Trump is a perverted and deranged little man destin for the trash bin of political history. As for the rest of the party regulars falling in line behind this oozing slime bucket of a human ...may the defeat you recieve at the polls this Nov reflect the Goldwater election...or maybe the McGovern Nixon outcome.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Chosen Daughter on September 08, 2016, 02:55:44 pm
Defeated and humiliated never to be heard from again.  Trump is a perverted and deranged little man destin for the trash bin of political history. As for the rest of the party regulars falling in line behind this oozing slime bucket of a human ...may the defeat you recieve at the polls this Nov reflect the Goldwater election...or maybe the McGovern Nixon outcome.

Trump said rape happens because men and women are allowed to serve together.  He might as well be ISIS.  He could have his own purity police.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-men-and-women-military-rape
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: sneakypete on September 08, 2016, 03:01:45 pm
By Jason Easley on Wed, Sep 7th, 2016 at 8:57 pm
Donald Trump gave what was nothing less than the worst performance of a nominee in modern political history. Trump confirmed that he knows nothing, and is proud of his ignorance.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/07/trump-bombs-delivers-historically-terrible-performance-commander-chief-forum.html

@Wingnut

Hell,he doesn't even suspect anything. He's dumber than Goober Gore. If he hadn't have been a trust fund child living a protected life,he would be living in a park somewhere despite him knowing "all the best words".
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Wingnut on September 08, 2016, 03:06:50 pm
@Wingnut

Hell,he doesn't even suspect anything. He's dumber than Goober Gore. If he hadn't have been a trust fund child living a protected life,he would be living in a park somewhere despite him knowing "all the best words".

Or institutionalized in a mental ward.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Hoodat on September 08, 2016, 03:26:14 pm
Trump was TERRIBLE. Not bad, not "unprepared," not "having a bad night" ... but toilet shattering, sewer blocking, natural disaster level, epicly shit.

Don't hold back.  Tell us what you really think.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: For-Q-Clinton on September 08, 2016, 03:55:33 pm
I thought he did better than expected.  (And I didn't expect much.)

They were both terrible.

My thoughts exactly.

One additional thought.  When people support the military they are supporting the people that make up the military (mostly enlisted guys and junior officers).  I'm a field grade officer so I have a bit of experience in this area.  And when you get to the generals...unless they are a big name (like Patton, Schwarzkopf, Powell) no one is really that big on generals.  So the democrats trying to say Trump doesn't support the troops because he thinks the generals are Obama stooges will only backfire on them.  Trump is right on this.  Obama cleaned house and only generals that learn to look the other way, keep their mouths shut or fully support Obama are there today.  It's been nearly 8 years...the generals have all been gone through and those that disagreed with Obama are long gone.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: catfish1957 on September 08, 2016, 03:59:27 pm
I thought both candidates had disastrous performances.  We are so screwed!!!!!

Did enjoy the brave soul who told Hitlerly that he would be in prison if he did what she did on handling classified material.  I guess he will be expecting an IRS audit in 2017.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Night Hides Not on September 08, 2016, 04:03:15 pm
I thought both candidates had disastrous performances.  We are so screwed!!!!!

Did enjoy the brave soul who told Hitlerly that he would be in prison if he did what she did on handling classified material.  I guess he will be expecting an IRS audit in 2017.

I'd be looking for an email today from Huma to Koskinen.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: LMAO on September 08, 2016, 04:05:57 pm


Did enjoy the brave soul who told Hitlerly that he would be in prison if he did what she did on handling classified material. 

@catfish1957

I seen that and loved it.

His statement probably reflects how the majority of the country feels
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: truth_seeker on September 08, 2016, 04:10:39 pm
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/07/trump-bombs-delivers-historically-terrible-performance-commander-chief-forum.html

For the record, that source is like right out of Democrats Underground.

Drink down your koolaid, compliments of Wingnut instead of sinkspur.

GOP site

Conservative site

political forum period
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: aligncare on September 08, 2016, 04:23:28 pm
For the record, that source is like right out of Democrats Underground.

Drink down your koolaid, compliments of Wingnut instead of sinkspur.

GOP site

Conservative site

political forum period

There does appear to be a great reliance on left-wing sources for the analyses here. Curious. Is no one else curious why the questionable sources?
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Chosen Daughter on September 08, 2016, 04:25:55 pm
For the record, that source is like right out of Democrats Underground.

Drink down your koolaid, compliments of Wingnut instead of sinkspur.

GOP site

Conservative site

political forum period

You are dictating what is Conservative when you support the New York Liberal?
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: sinkspur on September 08, 2016, 04:27:18 pm
There does appear to be a great reliance on left-wing sources for the analyses here. Curious. Is no one else curious why the questionable sources?

You no doubt take Trumpbart as Gospel.   Oh, and the National Enquirer.  Your boy thinks that rag deserves a Pulitzer Prize.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: ABX on September 08, 2016, 04:27:57 pm
I only caught a few minutes of Rush just now, but what I heard, his opinion was disappointed as well. He said something along the lines of 'is this the best we got?'
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: aligncare on September 08, 2016, 04:33:39 pm
I only caught a few minutes of Rush just now, but what I heard, his opinion was disappointed as well. He said something along the lines of 'is this the best we got?'

That was not his opinion. You should've listened longer. It was an analysis of what some others were saying. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you missed that part.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: GAJohnnie on September 08, 2016, 05:17:05 pm
There does appear to be a great reliance on left-wing sources for the analyses here. Curious. Is no one else curious why the questionable sources?

Conservatives rely on reason. Leftists rely on emotion. Looking around here you can see a great deal of emotion and no reason from the Hate Trump Always Squad. I think they need to come out of the closet and quit lying to themselves about their true political orientation.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: LMAO on September 08, 2016, 05:19:05 pm
Conservatives rely on reason. Leftists rely on emotion. Looking around here you can see a great deal of emotion and no reason from the Hate Trump Always Squad. I think they need to come out of the closet and quit lying to themselves about their true political orientation.

Says the person who posted this emotionally laden screed

 Mr. Trump must've had a worse performance last night that were being led to believe  judging by the anger of the posts of many of his supporters today. Oh I'm sure they'll be the typical bravado of how great his night was and how he hit one out of the ballpark but their actions speak louder than words

They're sounding eerily similar to who backed  Cruz intensely when they realized he was not going to win the primary
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: sinkspur on September 08, 2016, 05:23:26 pm
Conservatives rely on reason. Leftists rely on emotion. Looking around here you can see a great deal of emotion and no reason from the Hate Trump Always Squad. I think they need to come out of the closet and quit lying to themselves about their true political orientation.

Where you been Johnnie?  I was about to send flowers.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: aligncare on September 08, 2016, 05:32:36 pm
Conservatives rely on reason. Leftists rely on emotion. Looking around here you can see a great deal of emotion and no reason from the Hate Trump Always Squad. I think they need to come out of the closet and quit lying to themselves about their true political orientation.

Thanks for this, it gives me a chance to post one of my all-time favorite quotes:

"Insults are effective only where emotions are present." - Mr. Spock
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: truth_seeker on September 08, 2016, 05:37:22 pm
Conservatives rely on reason. Leftists rely on emotion. Looking around here you can see a great deal of emotion and no reason from the Hate Trump Always Squad. I think they need to come out of the closet and quit lying to themselves about their true political orientation.

The choice is binary. Either you vote for imperfect Trump, or you do not.

If you do not, you contribute to the election of a known Alinsky trained liberal, who will do further harm to America.

It is that simple.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: aligncare on September 08, 2016, 05:47:00 pm
The choice is binary. Either you vote for imperfect Trump, or you do not.

If you do not, you contribute to the election of a known Alinsky trained liberal, who will do further harm to America.

It is that simple.

No, it's not that simple. Someone as perfect as I can never compromise my principles to vote for an orange baboon. (Took me three hours to come up with that rationale.)

But, hey, seems to please the choir here ... and I get a lot of attaboys and kudos. Positive strokes feel so good.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: aligncare on September 08, 2016, 05:48:33 pm
...yes, I'm mocking you NeverTrump  :tongue2:
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Bigun on September 08, 2016, 06:11:41 pm
I watched and I am again dumbfounded that this is the GOP nominee.  Trump is "making it up as he goes along" and any fair minded observer would conclude the same.  The man is a moron who could only name one of his military "show" advisors.  Sad days ahead.

I couldn't agree with you any more!
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Night Hides Not on September 08, 2016, 06:13:08 pm
Says the person who is supporting one of the two New York liberals.

 :beer:  :pop41:

C'mon everybody, take it easy. I'm running out of beer and popcorn, and I don't get paid until tomorrow.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Bigun on September 08, 2016, 06:16:51 pm
...yes, I'm mocking you NeverTrump  :tongue2:

Please don't ever stop! 

You and a few others here who think they are still in the fifth grade are driving people further and further away form your boy by the hour!
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Night Hides Not on September 08, 2016, 06:18:03 pm
I watched and I am again dumbfounded that this is the GOP nominee.  Trump is "making it up as he goes along" and any fair minded observer would conclude the same.  The man is a moron who could only name one of his military "show" advisors.  Sad days ahead.

Watching both of these characters is cringeworthy. There's not an ounce of decency between the two, and both would be hit by lightning if they told the truth.

Neither are fit to be Commander in Chief.

By putting it in those terms, I am confident I am not violating the Hatch Act.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Night Hides Not on September 08, 2016, 06:20:21 pm
...yes, I'm mocking you NeverTrump  :tongue2:

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Damn, the way things are going, I'll be out of beer, popcorn, and memes before Halloween.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: HonestJohn on September 08, 2016, 07:02:42 pm
Conservatives rely on reason. Leftists rely on emotion. Looking around here you can see a great deal of emotion and no reason from the Hate Trump Always Squad. I think they need to come out of the closet and quit lying to themselves about their true political orientation.

Reason stands on critical analysis of relevant information.  You make assertions with no information to justify them.  Therefore, the reader can only conclude that you have none.

Thus your assertions can be based on emotion and projection.

QED.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Chosen Daughter on September 08, 2016, 07:19:13 pm
Red State weighs in.

http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2016/09/08/trump-said-many-ridiculous-things-last-night-worst/
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: LMAO on September 08, 2016, 07:22:04 pm
Please don't ever stop! 

You and a few others here who think they are still in the fifth grade are driving people further and further away form your boy by the hour!

@Bigun

Oh come on. Give them a break. They're having a tough day after last night's CIC Town hall Forum and they need an outlet to vent

I liken this to Rocky 1. Apollo Creed was convinced he was going to score a knockout on Balboa in the third round. Instead, he ended up going the distance with Balboa and won the match by vote.

Well, in the early days of all this, many of Trump's supporters at FR convinced themselves that when Trump debated Hillary, he was going to mop the floor with her. Well, even though last night wasn't a debate, and Hillary did not have a stellar performance, either, it's clear to them now that the floor mopping isn't going to happen and Trump and Hillary will "go the distance"

So it's a tough day for them. Which is why in politics, you always fight like you're 30 points behind
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: paul544 on September 08, 2016, 07:36:14 pm
How many times are we going to cite this faux news site?  There was a good article on there on how to spot fake polling sites.  The same should apply to this politicususa crap. 
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Wingnut on September 08, 2016, 07:50:04 pm
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Damn, the way things are going, I'll be out of beer, popcorn, and memes before Halloween.
Have faith. 
In Heaven there is no beer that's why we drink it here.
And when Trump is gone from here our friends will be drinking all the beer.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: XenaLee on September 08, 2016, 07:59:00 pm
By Jason Easley on Wed, Sep 7th, 2016 at 8:57 pm
Donald Trump gave what was nothing less than the worst performance of a nominee in modern political history. Trump confirmed that he knows nothing, and is proud of his ignorance.

Trump began by telling America that he was fit to be commander in chief because he is a business man. Trump once again praised his own judgment and lied about his opposition to the war in Iraq.

Lauer asked Trump if the country can afford to take the temperament risk on him. Trump brought up the Mexico trip and claimed that the firestorm his trip caused in Mexico was a victory.

Trump was asked about his claim that he knows more about ISIS than the generals, and he avoided the question. Lauer asked Trump if he lost faith in the military commanders. Trump did a song and dance about how trusts the military commanders, but he doesn’t trust Hillary Clinton.

A vet who is a Democrat asked Trump about his secret plan to defeat ISIS and asked what his plan for the region is. Trump repeated the question about how the US has invaded and never had a plan. Trump lied and claimed that Obama pulled out all of the troops, and that is how ISIS was formed. Trump repeated his babbling that the US should take the oil. Lauer asked how the oil would be taken, and Trump mumbled something about leaving people behind to take the oil.

Trump was asked what his plan is, and he rambled on while incoherently not mentioning a plan.

Trump was asked if an undocumented person who plans to serve in the armed forces should be allowed to stay in the country. Trump said that it would be a special circumstance, and they would be allowed to stay.

Listening to Trump speak, it was clear that the Republican nominee was making it up as he went along. Trump was asked a question about relations with Russia, and he touted Putin’s approval rating. Lauer asked Trump if he would accept a compliment from Putin, and Trump said that he would take the compliment when Putin called him brilliant. Trump praised Putin for being a leader and claimed that he is a better leader than Obama.

Trump was asked what his specific plan was to help veterans, and he claimed that Clinton said she was satisfied with how things are going at the VA. Trump went on to basically admit that his plan for the VA is privatization, while he said that he is opposed to privatization.

Trump was asked what his plan was to deal with the vet suicide epidemic, and he called the VA, which not five minutes before, he vowed not to privatize a corrupt enterprise.

Donald Trump stood by his 2013 tweet that blamed military rapes on the victims.

Lauer asked Trump what he was reading and how he was preparing to be commander in chief. Trump claimed that he is studying “a lot,” but then he talked about how busy he is and how many hats he is wearing. Trump claimed that he doesn’t need knowledge because he has “a common sense.”

If the CIC forum was the first commander in chief test Trump failed miserably. Donald Trump was unprepared, unknowledgeable, and he had no plan to address any of the issues that were posed to him.

Donald Trump gave the worst performance of a modern presidential nominee in any forum in the last thirty years. Trump confirmed everything that Democrats have been saying. He was unprepared, winging it, and the last person anyone should trust with the commander in chief responsibilities.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/07/trump-bombs-delivers-historically-terrible-performance-commander-chief-forum.html

I.....just could not bear to watch it....since I can no longer stand to look at or hear Trump.  Looks like I will now have to force myself to view the debacle.   Crap.

Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Idaho_Cowboy on September 08, 2016, 08:19:00 pm
...yes, I'm mocking you NeverTrump  :tongue2:
Mock on, mock on, Voltaire, Rousseau;
Mock on, mock on; 'tis all in vain!
You throw the sand against the wind,
And the wind blows it back again.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: INVAR on September 08, 2016, 08:57:07 pm
The choice is binary. Either you vote for imperfect Trump, or you do not.

If you do not, you contribute to the election of a known Alinsky trained liberal, who will do further harm to America.

It is that simple.

Ask us if we care that you tyrant wannabe's think that.

In my estimation, you and your candidate are far worse and more dangerous to my liberty than Hillary could ever hope to be.

So we are not voting for either NY liberal Demcorat running in the Uniparty Oligarchy - we are openly and vociferously working to persuade was many as we can to vote third party or write in.

You people have made us the enemy early on, death threats from your compatriots and all.

Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: truth_seeker on September 08, 2016, 10:32:05 pm
How many times are we going to cite this faux news site?  There was a good article on there on how to spot fake polling sites.  The same should apply to this politicususa crap.

Since you appear to be new, I must inform you that this previously "conservative" forum, now uses mostly leftist news sources, to fuel the anti-Trump daily "discussions."

MSNBC, CNN, WaPo, NYT, Political to name some popular sources. BTW Politico clears their material with DNC/Clinton campaign before publishing

Enjoy. It is now a "political forum period" according to the managing owner
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: aligncare on September 08, 2016, 10:38:51 pm
Mock on, mock on, Voltaire, Rousseau;
Mock on, mock on; 'tis all in vain!
You throw the sand against the wind,
And the wind blows it back again.

That Van Morrison?
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: sinkspur on September 08, 2016, 10:44:32 pm
No, it's not that simple. Someone as perfect as I can never compromise my principles to vote for an orange baboon. (Took me three hours to come up with that rationale.)

But, hey, seems to please the choir here ... and I get a lot of attaboys and kudos. Positive strokes feel so good.

This is funny.  You say that while you support a clown who LIVES for attention, who changes his views depending on the audience he's in front of.  "Positive strokes feel so good" for a man of pure appetite.

#NeverTrump doesn't have to mock you.  You mock yourself by supporting an ignoramus bigot.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Idaho_Cowboy on September 08, 2016, 10:44:33 pm
Since you appear to be new, I must inform you that this previously "conservative" forum, now uses mostly leftist news sources, to fuel the anti-Trump daily "discussions."

MSNBC, CNN, WaPo, NYT, Political to name some popular sources. BTW Politico clears their material with DNC/Clinton campaign before publishing

Enjoy. It is now a "political forum period" according to the managing owner
@paul544

Don't pay him no never mind. Speaking for myself  are glad to have you and @mystery-ak and @R4 TrumPence plus the mods do a great job.  They do expect folks to eat the meat and spit out the bones.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: sneakypete on September 08, 2016, 10:48:30 pm
Watching both of these characters is cringeworthy. There's not an ounce of decency between the two, and both would be hit by lightning if they told the truth.

Neither are fit to be Commander in Chief.


@Night Hides Not

This is the only national election I have ever heard of where if either candidate were only running against a slightly warm corpse,the corpse would be favored by 90 percent or so of the likely voters.

The Dims are drinking and holding their noses so they can vote for Bubbette!,and the alleged Republicans are doing the same thing so they can vote for Trump.

We may finally discover the answer to that age old question, "What if we had an election and nobody voted?"
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: libertybele on September 08, 2016, 11:21:44 pm
The choice is binary. Either you vote for imperfect Trump, or you do not.

If you do not, you contribute to the election of a known Alinsky trained liberal, who will do further harm to America.

It is that simple.


LMAO...voting for one liberal over another liberal is still going to get you a liberal!   :chairbang:

There are other choices:

Castle - Constitution Party
Johnson - Libertarian Party
McMullin - Independent
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: aligncare on September 08, 2016, 11:42:58 pm

Third parties in American politics: the definition of insanity.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: sinkspur on September 08, 2016, 11:46:53 pm
Third parties in American politics: the definition of insanity.

Agreed.  But you can bet your ass your boy Trump would have gone third party if he'd lost the GOP nomination.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Wingnut on September 08, 2016, 11:54:32 pm
Third parties in American politics: the definition of insanity.

Old angry men like you have made the third party a growing reality.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: sneakypete on September 08, 2016, 11:56:38 pm
Agreed.  But you can bet your ass your boy Trump would have gone third party if he'd lost the GOP nomination.

@sinkspur

Sink,we both know that except for the people in the party power structures that stand to personally profit in terms of wealth,status,or power,nobody in either branch of the Dim Party is excited about their candidate. The typical Dim voter is only voting for her because she is a Dim and because The Donald IS The Donald,and the typical alleged Republican voter is voting for Donald Little Hands because he ain't Bubbette! Period.  Their "excitement" over their candidate has all the validity of whistling as you walk past a graveyard. Neither side is actually FOR their candidate as they are AGAINST the other one. For good reasons on both sides.

If that ain't being "played by the system",I don't know what is.

You could go to the SPCA and pick out a dog that would beat either if you could get it nominated.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Chosen Daughter on September 09, 2016, 12:10:00 am
Trump FAILED miserably last night.  He is an embarrassment to the nation, he is an embarrassment to the party.  Those of you who support him or supported him ARE RESPONSIBLE for handing Hillary the White House!! By his lack of performance during the forum it was painfully obvious that he lacks the intelligence, knowledge and experience to be Commander In Chief!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=THPVoGTEGVk

And I haven't heard people mention it but Trump was on edge when he walked onto stage.  Orange was red and his face wasn't friendly.  Forgot what was said by moderator but Trump asks "is that a question".  He did not look happy to be there.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: sneakypete on September 09, 2016, 12:30:33 am
And I haven't heard people mention it but Trump was on edge when he walked onto stage.  Orange was red and his face wasn't friendly.  Forgot what was said by moderator but Trump asks "is that a question".  He did not look happy to be there.

Donald Little Hands isn't used to answering questions. He has never done it before in his entire life,and he doesn't like doing it now. What he does is make pronouncements and then just walk away without ever having to explain any of his brain farts.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: aligncare on September 09, 2016, 12:33:45 am
Old angry men like you have made the third party a growing reality.

64 is old? Until my recent knee injury I was running 3 miles a day. Which is about as relevant as what ever the heck you just said. Sounded like an insult searching for logic. Give me some time to study it.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: sinkspur on September 09, 2016, 12:39:18 am
stuart stevens ‏@stuartpstevens  6m6 minutes ago
Here's work of "strong leader" being praised. Wreckage of MH17 shot down over Ukraine. There's an American in there.

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Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: sinkspur on September 09, 2016, 12:41:36 am

 
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One day after praising Putin during NBC's candidates forum, Trump does an interview with the Kremlin's TV network...
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: INVAR on September 09, 2016, 12:45:58 am
Since you appear to be new, I must inform you that this previously "conservative" forum, now uses mostly leftist news sources, to fuel the anti-Trump daily "discussions."

That is hysterically hilarious coming from a militant shill for a NYC liberal Democrat for President running as a Republican.

Very hilarious.

There's Black, Pot and Kettle going on.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 09, 2016, 12:50:23 am
But you know what?

Trumpkins don't care what Trump says, or that he's dumb as a stump, or lies or contradicts himself or plays the fool.  We live in a reality TV world, and many on our side are infected with style over substance just like most of the rest of the country. 

When an ignoramus like Trump can compete for the highest office in the land, you know you live in a very stupid country.
It proves that with the right connections, you don't have to be especially smart to make money.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Gov Bean Counter on September 09, 2016, 12:55:20 am
It proves that with the right connections, you don't have to be especially smart to make money.

It does seem that the quality of Trump's dealmaking decreased after Rudy had taken a bite out of the New York/New Jersey crime families...
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Bigun on September 09, 2016, 12:59:39 am
It proves that with the right connections, you don't have to be especially smart to make money.

And even less smart to go through all the contortions Trump has gone through in his career to make what he has made when he could have simply invested his inheritance in a S&P 500 index fund and had a LOT more than he does now!
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: libertybele on September 09, 2016, 01:26:45 am
And even less smart to go through all the contortions Trump has gone through in his career to make what he has made when he could have simply invested his inheritance in a S&P 500 index fund and had a LOT more than he does now!

Yes ... but Trump wouldn't have been able to make all those great deals and hire all the best people or pretend that he is 'holier then thou'.   :silly:
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: truth_seeker on September 09, 2016, 01:42:56 am
And even less smart to go through all the contortions Trump has gone through in his career to make what he has made when he could have simply invested his inheritance in a S&P 500 index fund and had a LOT more than he does now!

Using S & P indexes for Jan. 1971 (93.49) and Jan. 2016 (1918.6), an initial $1 million investment would equal $20.5 million today

Using compounded interest of 5% p.a. for 45 yrs. it would reach only $9 million today.

He and his siblings did NOT inherit from their father, until 1999, 28 years later.

However you calculate, it clearly refutes your claim by a huge margin. It is pretty easy to test numeric claims, for reasonableness, btw.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Bigun on September 09, 2016, 03:32:37 am
Using S & P indexes for Jan. 1971 (93.49) and Jan. 2016 (1918.6), an initial $1 million investment would equal $20.5 million today

Using compounded interest of 5% p.a. for 45 yrs. it would reach only $9 million today.

He and his siblings did NOT inherit from their father, until 1999, 28 years later.

However you calculate, it clearly refutes your claim by a huge margin. It is pretty easy to test numeric claims, for reasonableness, btw.

Except for the fact that your 1 million figure is total BS you are correct!
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 09, 2016, 03:36:52 am
My thoughts exactly.

One additional thought.  When people support the military they are supporting the people that make up the military (mostly enlisted guys and junior officers).  I'm a field grade officer so I have a bit of experience in this area.  And when you get to the generals...unless they are a big name (like Patton, Schwarzkopf, Powell) no one is really that big on generals.  So the democrats trying to say Trump doesn't support the troops because he thinks the generals are Obama stooges will only backfire on them.  Trump is right on this.  Obama cleaned house and only generals that learn to look the other way, keep their mouths shut or fully support Obama are there today.  It's been nearly 8 years...the generals have all been gone through and those that disagreed with Obama are long gone.

https://america-wake-up.com/2013/11/03/why-has-obama-fired-197-us-senior-military-commanders-in-5-years-nine-generals-in-2013/ (https://america-wake-up.com/2013/11/03/why-has-obama-fired-197-us-senior-military-commanders-in-5-years-nine-generals-in-2013/)

The list includes:
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3.      BELOW IS THE DETAIL ON THE 9 COMMANDING GENERALS OBAMA HAS FIRED IN 2013

1.   General Carter Hamm, United States Army-Served as head of the United States African Command. Was in charge of the US African command during the fateful night of September 11, 2012 when the lives of four American citizens was taken in the Embassy in Benghazi. Hamm was extremely critical of our Commander and Chief and stated he lied about not having reinforcements in the area on that night. Hamm “resigned and retired” on April of 2013.

2.   Rear Admiral Charles Gaouette/United States Navy-Commander of Carrier Strike Group Three. His most recent activity served as Deputy Commander of the US Naval Forces, US Central Command. He was in charge of Air Craft Carriers in the Mediterranean Sea the night of September 11, 2012. He testified before the hearing committee and said that there may not have been time to get the flight crews there but left the door open on if told when the events took place if that he could have had the aircraft launched upon cross-examination by Rep. Tray Gowdey. Recently fired from the Administrative post and relieved of Duty by the Obama Administration for “utterance of a racial slur”.

3.   Major General Ralph Baker, United States Army- Major General Baker served as the Commander of the Joint Task Force-Horn at Camp Lamar, Djibouti, Africa. Was also involved in some aspect with the incident September 11, 2012, being under the African Command. Had said he believed attack helicopters could have made it in time. Relieved of command and fired for groping a civilian (no assault charges or sexual misconduct charges filed with JAG)

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Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 09, 2016, 03:42:41 am
Thanks for this, it gives me a chance to post one of my all-time favorite quotes:

"Insults are effective only where emotions are present." - Mr. Spock
I'll remember that, thanks. Is that why you post this
Quote
#NeverTrump: When sanctimony meets stupid.
nonsense twice with every comment you make? Which are you, sanctimony or stupidity?
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 09, 2016, 03:43:40 am
The choice is binary. Either you vote for imperfect Trump, or you do not.

If you do not, you contribute to the election of a known Alinsky trained liberal, who will do further harm to America.

It is that simple.
Where is the "Oh Geeez..." guy when you need him?
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 09, 2016, 03:50:09 am
Third parties in American politics: the definition of insanity.
If that truly was the case, the Whigs would still be around.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 09, 2016, 03:54:01 am
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That's the guy! Thanks!
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Luis Gonzalez on September 09, 2016, 03:54:15 am
Donald Little Hands isn't used to answering questions. He has never done it before in his entire life,and he doesn't like doing it now. What he does is make pronouncements and then just walk away without ever having to explain any of his brain farts.

There was this "town hall" thing with Hannity a few nights ago,   and I happened to tune in for a few minutes.

This is part of what I watched. Hannity asking to define "extreme vetting", which is why I watched. I wanted to understand how the whole thing worked.

Quote

HANNITY:  What is extreme vetting and what does that mean and how do you -- for example, if somebody grows up in a country where the Clintons take all their money from, if they grow up there...

(LAUGHTER)

HANNITY:  -- and then they think that men can tell women how to dress and they can't drive and they can't go to school and you can't build a church or a temple, and you grow up, then you want to come to America, how do you possibly...

TRUMP:  Well, look...

HANNITY:  -- vet what's in their heart?

TRUMP:  Right.  Well, let me just you, you get very smart people.  And there are those people.  And they're very good at understanding what's going on.
But beyond that, you use social media, because a lot of these people -- I mean they're better at social media than we are.
ISIS, if you look at what ISIS is doing with social, they're recruiting over the Internet.  And I also said we have to end that.  We have to knock it out.  We have to -- you know, some people would say oh, that's a terrible thing.

(APPLAUSE)

TRUMP:  We have to end that.

(APPLAUSE)

TRUMP:  But -- but, Sean, when you look at what's going on with the Internet and how ISIS is using the Internet and what they're doing and what they're doing to us and then you have people in our country that say oh, you can't do that, that's doing something so bad to us, here we are, people -- they want to blow us up.  We have to be very careful.
We have to take them out very swiftly, because weapons are getting stronger and stronger, meaner and meaner, and believe me, they want to come over here.
Now, again, I was one that didn't want to go over there.  But now you have no chance -- really, you have no choice.
Now, one thing, when Obama announced when he's going out and we're going to -- all they did is they sat back.  I couldn't believe it, when I was watching, I was watching this conference and he was talking about getting out and when they were getting out.  I -- I'm sitting there, I can't believe that he would say it.
And even Hillary Clinton, when she talks about the different things, she wants to -- why can't we just be quiet and do the job?
Why can't we be quiet...

(APPLAUSE)

HANNITY:  This is important.

TRUMP:  -- and do the job?

HANNITY:  And you say you don't want to telegraph what...

TRUMP:  I don't want to telegraph now...

HANNITY:  You don't want to (INAUDIBLE)...

TRUMP:  No, I don't want to tell them.

HANNITY:  But -- but when you talk about extreme vetting, and you did talk about in the cold war, we did have ideological test screening and this -- this goes into your thinking, and how do you stop -- how do you possibly you -- know if somebody grows up under Sharia, and these extreme viewpoints that are the antithesis of our constitutional...

TRUMP:  OK.  So when you look at, uh, San Bernardino, right, which was a horror show.  She came in.  She probably radicalized the husband.  What a -- what a couple that was.  That was a real beauty.

(LAUGHTER)

TRUMP:  So if they would have looked at social media, they would have seen that this woman was trouble.

HANNITY:  She was radicalized.

TRUMP:  We didn't look at social media.  They just came in.  Uh, they actually killed people that gave them a baby, uh, a baby shower -- a baby party.  They had a child.  They -- the 14 people that were killed, they were at the party honoring the birth of their baby and then they went in and they shot them all, killed them all.
Look, there's something going on.  It's a sick deal.  It's beyond just normal...

HANNITY:  All right, so let me follow-up on that.

TRUMP:  Sean...

HANNITY:  Yes?

TRUMP:  -- this is a sick, sick deal.

HANNITY:  Agree.  A sick ideology.  This is an advancement of a caliphate that wants worldwide either convert or die.
Here's my -- my question, then.
You -- you pointed out that this guy, the father of this Orlando shooter -- and he was smiling, as you said, and Hillary -- and you talked about her stupidity and her weaknesses, what -- and he has explained his radical views.
What do we do when we find somebody that has extreme views?
Do we throw them the hell out?

TRUMP:  I'd throw him out.  If you look at him, I'd throw him out.

(APPLAUSE)

TRUMP:  You know, I looked at him.  And you look, he's smiling.

HANNITY:  Yes.

TRUMP:  He had the red cap on.  I thought it was one of my caps.  I said no, no.

(LAUGHTER)
TRUMP:  Make America great again, I don't think so.
But he has the red cap.  He's got a big smile on his face during the whole thing.  He obviously liked what he heard, OK, from her.
Look, we have to be so tough and so smart and so vigilant.  And frankly, the Muslims have to help us, because they see what's going on in their community.  We don't see it.  They have to help us.

(APPLAUSE)

TRUMP:  And if they're not going to help us, they're to blame, also.

(APPLAUSE)

TRUMP:  But in -- in San Bernardino, they saw bombs laying around the apartment...

HANNITY:  They didn't want to say anything.

TRUMP:  -- in the apartment.  And people saw it.  And they wanted to be -- they called it racial profiling.  We didn't want to call in because of racial profiling.  In other words, a lawyer got to them and said you've got a problem here, you knew this was there, say racial profiling.
But look, we have -- whether it's racial profiling or politically correct, we'd better get smart.  We are letting tens of thousands of people into our country.  We don't know what what the hell we're doing.

HANNITY:  And we can keep people like that (INAUDIBLE).
We've go to take a break.
We'll come back.
We have more with Donald Trump.
We're at The Pabst Theater.
We're in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
That are more as HANNITY continues, straight ahead.

I for one am certainly glad he cleared up the whole thing for me.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on September 09, 2016, 04:07:52 am
Except for the fact that your 1 million figure is total BS you are correct!
I was going to say the same thing.  I'm supposed to take Trump at his word when he says his dad "loaned" him a million dollars?  Yeah!!! Trump didn't inherit anything.  You wouldn't believe the struggles he endured.

When Trump was a boy he would wake up at 5am ( a half hour before he went to sleep ) and clean the street of the shoebox he and his 12 siblings lived in.  After dressing and feeding his brothers an sisters, little donny would walk 15 miles to school...up hill both ways...through seven feet of snow...and carrying his siblings on his back, because he was the only one who had shoes.  After school Donny would work 14 house in an iron mine, and when he came home his alcoholic father would beat him until he was dead.

Donny's parents were so poor he thought macaroni was a meat until he was 18.  They couldn't afford clothes for Donny...on his 14th birthday they bought him a hat so he could look out the window.

But Donny picked himself up by his bootstraps and now he's a billionaire.
You can be too, if you are willing to max out your credit cards and send the money to Trump Financial University...
That's Trump F U...
where you too will learn the BEST words.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on September 09, 2016, 04:13:34 am
TRUMP:  Right.  Well, let me just you, you get very smart people.  And there are those people.  And they're very good at understanding what's going on.
Trump is going to get Not Sure!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGUNPMPrxvA
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: GtHawk on September 09, 2016, 05:39:31 am
Thanks for this, it gives me a chance to post one of my all-time favorite quotes:

"Insults are effective only where emotions are present." - Mr. Spock
Impressive, quoting a fictional character to support a fictional conservative, well played............in a fictional sort of way.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: sneakypete on September 09, 2016, 07:57:04 am
Using S & P indexes for Jan. 1971 (93.49) and Jan. 2016 (1918.6), an initial $1 million investment would equal $20.5 million today

Using compounded interest of 5% p.a. for 45 yrs. it would reach only $9 million today.

He and his siblings did NOT inherit from their father, until 1999, 28 years later.

However you calculate, it clearly refutes your claim by a huge margin. It is pretty easy to test numeric claims, for reasonableness, btw.

@truth_seeker seeker

Is that some kind of "new math" where up equals doawn,and doawn equals up? Trump alone came into a 12 million dollar trust fund from his grandfather on his 21st Birthday. He got an additional TWO HUNDRED MILLION when his father died.

Not hard to win a race when you start out on the end side of the finish line.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: sneakypete on September 09, 2016, 08:05:27 am
There was this "town hall" thing with Hannity a few nights ago,   and I happened to tune in for a few minutes.

This is part of what I watched. Hannity asking to define "extreme vetting", which is why I watched. I wanted to understand how the whole thing worked.

I for one am certainly glad he cleared up the whole thing for me.

@Luis Gonzalez

No kidding.

The truth is even he doesn't understand what the hell it is he is talking about. He just throws out an occasional catch phrase,and then spends 10 minutes babbling nonsense because there is no sound he loves more than the sound of his own voice.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 09, 2016, 11:26:00 am
@Luis Gonzalez

No kidding.

The truth is even he doesn't understand what the hell it is he is talking about. He just throws out an occasional catch phrase,and then spends 10 minutes babbling nonsense because there is no sound he loves more than the sound of his own voice.
He's a salesman. Not such a good salesman, but that's it. He'd never make it at a parts counter or on a Schwann's Truck, and would get fired from an oilfield supply company. He's the newest Kardashian of the political world, famous for being famous, but after a few minutes, leaving someone wondering why that is.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: debrawiest on September 09, 2016, 11:30:20 am
He's a salesman. Not such a good salesman, but that's it. He'd never make it at a parts counter or on a Schwann's Truck, and would get fired from an oilfield supply company. He's the newest Kardashian of the political world, famous for being famous, but after a few minutes, leaving someone wondering why that is.

Oh, banish the thought of Trump in a Schwann uniform! Ewww, ewww, ewww.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: libertybele on September 09, 2016, 11:35:45 am
@Luis Gonzalez

No kidding.

The truth is even he doesn't understand what the hell it is he is talking about. He just throws out an occasional catch phrase,and then spends 10 minutes babbling nonsense because there is no sound he loves more than the sound of his own voice.

Exactly.  To think that so many believe and have bought into all his babbling nonsense is beyond me.  What the heck are people thinking?
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: sneakypete on September 09, 2016, 01:05:22 pm
Exactly.  To think that so many believe and have bought into all his babbling nonsense is beyond me.  What the heck are people thinking?

@libertybele

They are not thinking. They are emotional and desperate. Desperate people will do anything.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Rivergirl on September 09, 2016, 01:08:51 pm
DT equates his speaking with intelligence.  As long as he is making noises he thinks it's brilliance.
I wonder what could be in the minds of people who jumped on his bandwagon and now see he has reversed himself on every, EVERY single position
As for Matt Lauer, perhaps he is auditioning for Trump TV.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Bigun on September 09, 2016, 01:34:20 pm
He's a salesman. Not such a good salesman, but that's it. He'd never make it at a parts counter or on a Schwann's Truck, and would get fired from an oilfield supply company. He's the newest Kardashian of the political world, famous for being famous, but after a few minutes, leaving someone wondering why that is.

He's a friggin Con man who strong arms his opposition into submission.  To call him a salesman is to insult every honest salesman on the planet!
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: aligncare on September 09, 2016, 01:34:29 pm

And Donald Trump just keeps on winning, just keeps rising in the polls, and #NeverTrump just keeps squealing their displeasure...to no effect.

My error. One obvious effect: NeverTrumpers continue to marginalize themselves as political players in Republican politics.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: TomSea on September 09, 2016, 01:37:18 pm
It may be an online poll but Trump won the poll on whom won the debate at heavy.com.

I never voted for Trump winning any of the debates or in the primary, I can vote for him in the general election.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 09, 2016, 01:42:04 pm
He's a friggin Con man who strong arms his opposition into submission.  To call him a salesman is to insult every honest salesman on the planet!
You are correct. I said
Quote
Not such a good salesman, but that's it. He'd never make it at a parts counter or on a Schwann's Truck, and would get fired from an oilfield supply company.
Good salesmen will assess a client's needs, meet those needs with the right product, and do so to the client's economic advantage (either as good or superior to an existing product at comparable cost, or a newer/better product which will save the client money.)
I do owe those folks an apology for intimating that Trump is anywhere near the caliber they are.

Perhaps "not such a good salesman" is an understatement in his regard.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: sinkspur on September 09, 2016, 01:44:21 pm
And Donald Trump just keeps on winning, just keeps rising in the polls, and #NeverTrump just keeps squealing their displeasure...to no effect.

My error. One obvious effect: NeverTrumpers continue to marginalize themselves as political players in Republican politics.

If Trumpism is Republican politics, then to hell with the Republican Party. 

We live in a Reality TV country, and Trump is the ultimate reality star:  vacuous, bombastic, ignorant, foul-mouthed, totally unmoored morally. 

His supporters are Nanny Boo-Booers, loving the spectacle and wanting the show to never end. 

Trump doesn't give a damn about America.  He only loves himself and what will help Donald Trump. 

Suckers.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: corbe on September 09, 2016, 01:53:14 pm

If Trumpism is Republican politics, then to hell with the Republican Party. 

We live in a Reality TV country, and Trump is the ultimate reality star:  vacuous, bombastic, ignorant, foul-mouthed, totally unmoored morally. 

His supporters are Nanny Boo-Booers, loving the spectacle and wanting the show to never end. 

Trump doesn't give a damn about America.  He only loves himself and what will help Donald Trump. 

Suckers.


   Maybe if w watched all that 'Slime oozing out from your TV set' (Zappa) we'd be more apt to vote for the Donald.  Sadly I missed it all, as I'd bet you did too.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: libertybele on September 09, 2016, 01:53:38 pm

If Trumpism is Republican politics, then to hell with the Republican Party. 

We live in a Reality TV country, and Trump is the ultimate reality star:  vacuous, bombastic, ignorant, foul-mouthed, totally unmoored morally. 

His supporters are Nanny Boo-Booers, loving the spectacle and wanting the show to never end. 

Trump doesn't give a damn about America.  He only loves himself and what will help Donald Trump. 

Suckers.

 888high58888   ...and stupid, ignorant people love him!
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 09, 2016, 01:54:42 pm
And Donald Trump just keeps on winning, just keeps rising in the polls, and #NeverTrump just keeps squealing their displeasure...to no effect.

My error. One obvious effect: NeverTrumpers continue to marginalize themselves as political players in Republican politics.
Based on that performance, I seriously question why. 

It is obvious Trump has reached the limits of his ability to bluster his way through.

These are the tougher questions, but far from the answers the job would require.
Hillary gave her stock posturing and sideswiped a question here and there, Trump wasn't even close. That's sad. Between his performance and your badgering bullshit, I really don't see how anyone could vote for him, and she's a non-starter.
Thanks for helping hurl that dumpster fire into the history books, as either a footnote or a foul-up of Biblical proportions. You must be so proud.

Voting for the future, by returning to our heritage. Constitution Party.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Wingnut on September 09, 2016, 02:22:18 pm
I was going to say the same thing.  I'm supposed to take Trump at his word when he says his dad "loaned" him a million dollars?  Yeah!!! Trump didn't inherit anything.  You wouldn't believe the struggles he endured.

When Trump was a boy he would wake up at 5am ( a half hour before he went to sleep ) and clean the street of the shoebox he and his 12 siblings lived in.  After dressing and feeding his brothers an sisters, little donny would walk 15 miles to school...up hill both ways...through seven feet of snow...and carrying his siblings on his back, because he was the only one who had shoes.  After school Donny would work 14 house in an iron mine, and when he came home his alcoholic father would beat him until he was dead.

Donny's parents were so poor he thought macaroni was a meat until he was 18.  They couldn't afford clothes for Donny...on his 14th birthday they bought him a hat so he could look out the window.

But Donny picked himself up by his bootstraps and now he's a billionaire.
You can be too, if you are willing to max out your credit cards and send the money to Trump Financial University...
That's Trump F U...
where you too will learn the BEST words.

Way to tug at the old heart strings @Once-Ler. With a sob like that in the story who couldn't vote for a self made Thousandaire.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: sneakypete on September 09, 2016, 02:26:41 pm

My error. One obvious effect: NeverTrumpers continue to marginalize themselves as political players in Republican politics.

@aligncare

Why would anyone with any self-respect at all NOT be happy about that? Being a "player in Republican politics" these days is the equivalent of being a transvestite crack whore.

No disrespect intended to transvestite crack whores,of course. They already have enough problems as it is without hanging this around their necks. 
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: guitar4jesus on September 09, 2016, 02:41:12 pm
@aligncare

Why would anyone with any self-respect at all NOT be happy about that? Being a "player in Republican politics" these days is the equivalent of being a transvestite crack whore.

No disrespect intended to transvestite crack whores,of course. They already have enough problems as it is without hanging this around their necks.

You left out middle-aged....
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: aligncare on September 09, 2016, 03:04:08 pm
@aligncare

Why would anyone with any self-respect at all NOT be happy about that? Being a "player in Republican politics" these days is the equivalent of being a transvestite crack whore.

No disrespect intended to transvestite crack whores,of course. They already have enough problems as it is without hanging this around their necks.

"Republican politics" is the key to the White House -- there's no other working key at this time --  where good administration can help to reverse the damaging changes inflicted by Obama through EOs and other disturbing unconstitutional actions.

I firmly believe an imperfect man like Donald Trump is just the non-politician America needed at this time. Don't worry, don't get in a huff. I know it's just my opinion. I just happened to be right.  :smokin:
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: catfish1957 on September 09, 2016, 03:07:00 pm
"Republican politics" is the key to the White House -- there's no other working key at this time --  where good administration can help to reverse the damaging changes inflicted by Obama through EOs and other disturbing unconstitutional actions.

I firmly believe an imperfect man like Donald Trump is just the non-politician America needed at this time. Don't worry, don't get in a huff. I know it's just my opinion. I just happened to be right.  :smokin:

You strike me as the probably the last one here that will admit that they were royally duped.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Wingnut on September 09, 2016, 03:12:29 pm
@aligncare

Why would anyone with any self-respect at all NOT be happy about that? Being a "player in Republican politics" these days is the equivalent of being a transvestite crack whore.
 

You just described the typical "Date Night" at the RNC.  When you are taking one for the team choose wisely who you let in the back door.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Liberty Tree Dr on September 09, 2016, 04:11:29 pm
By Jason Easley on Wed, Sep 7th, 2016 at 8:57 pm
<<SNIP>>
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/07/trump-bombs-delivers-historically-terrible-performance-commander-chief-forum.html
Can you go ahead and tell us what Mother Jones and the CPUSA websites had to say about Trump's performance?  And Al Jazeera, too?
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Idaho_Cowboy on September 09, 2016, 05:32:43 pm
DT equates his speaking with intelligence.  As long as he is making noises he thinks it's brilliance.
I wonder what could be in the minds of people who jumped on his bandwagon and now see he has reversed himself on every, EVERY single position
As for Matt Lauer, perhaps he is auditioning for Trump TV.
Since we are going fictional quotes on this thread, I'm going to quote Qui-Gon Jinn: "The ability to speak does not make you intelligent." That certainly fits Jar-Jar Trump bigly.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Hoodat on September 09, 2016, 05:39:52 pm
He's a friggin Con man who strong arms his opposition into submission.  To call him a salesman is to insult every honest salesman on the planet!

You got that right.
(http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photopost/data/765/GreenA8.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: aligncare on September 09, 2016, 05:59:23 pm
Can you go ahead and tell us what Mother Jones and the CPUSA websites had to say about Trump's performance?  And Al Jazeera, too?

We haven't seen objective journalism like you mentioned posted here in months.... You're treading in the TNNN: Trump Negative News Network. All the rotten things Trump is...and more. The dog pack loves it here.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: HonestJohn on September 09, 2016, 06:11:40 pm
@libertybele

They are not thinking. They are emotional and desperate. Desperate people will do anything.

Desperate because Trump told them they were.  And their world view reinforced it.  He tried the same schtick in Detroit, telling the black community that everything is heck on earth and that they are doomed without him.

It didn't work.  But for his supporters... it did.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: sneakypete on September 09, 2016, 06:21:10 pm
"Republican politics" is the key to the White House -- there's no other working key at this time --  where good administration can help to reverse the damaging changes inflicted by Obama through EOs and other disturbing unconstitutional actions.



@aligncare

I agree,but I have seen ZERO evidence he is anything but a whore,and the only changes made would be where the payoffs went.

Plus,the Dims,as bad as they are,aren't so short-sighted they would try to bankrupt the system in 4 years so they could steal all the money and move on,and that exact thing IS The Donald's business model. Flat out,he doesn't give a damn about anyone but himself,and that includes his family. The only reason he tolerates them is he sees them as a reflection of himself.
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As for the rest of it,who am I to tell you that you can't believe what you want to believe? If it makes you happy to think Donald Little Hands is America's salvation,have at it.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: sneakypete on September 09, 2016, 06:23:51 pm
You just described the typical "Date Night" at the RNC.  When you are taking one for the team choose wisely who you let in the back door.

@Wingnut

You are SOOOOOO bad!
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: sneakypete on September 09, 2016, 06:31:04 pm
We haven't seen objective journalism like you mentioned posted here in months.... You're treading in the TNNN: Trump Negative News Network. All the rotten things Trump is...and more. The dog pack loves it here.

@aligncare

See,THAT is where you are making your second big mistake. Your first one is in believing the toad. The second is assuming it makes any of us happy to pin the tail on that ass. It doesn't. Nothing would make me happier than to see a genuine opponent to Bubbette! that was even 50 percent conservative. Hell,even losers like Romney could have beaten her like a cheap drum.

What he is,is HER handpicked candidate to disrupt the alleged Republican primaries in order to make sure she had a weak opponent. I'm pretty sure her handlers are shocked he actually won the primary,as well as delighted. THERE WAS NOT ONE SINGLE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE IN THE PRIMARY THAT COULD NOT HAVE BEATEN HER,OTHER THAN THE DONALD.

He won the primary mostly be accident when he screamed he was going to build a wall at the Mexican border and deport illegal aliens. Once he said those non-PC words,he could have barbecued a live baby on national tv and it wouldn't have made any difference. That was and IS the Number 1 problem facing America.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: sneakypete on September 09, 2016, 06:34:36 pm
Desperate because Trump told them they were.  And their world view reinforced it.  He tried the same schtick in Detroit, telling the black community that everything is heck on earth and that they are doomed without him.



@HonestJohn

He told them the unvarnished absolute truth in Detroit. The Dim Party has created black ghettos,poverty,and crime in cities,and have no interest in changing anything because they ARE the New Massas,and the blacks WILL vote to keep them in power as long as the Dims keep giving them "free stuff".
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: EC on September 09, 2016, 06:37:29 pm
We haven't seen objective journalism like you mentioned posted here in months.... You're treading in the TNNN: Trump Negative News Network. All the rotten things Trump is...and more. The dog pack loves it here.

Then get off your lazy ass and post some. IF you can find them.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Wingnut on September 09, 2016, 06:46:37 pm
We haven't seen objective journalism like you mentioned posted here in months.... You're treading in the TNNN: Trump Negative News Network. All the rotten things Trump is...and more. The dog pack loves it here.

Then get off your lazy ass and post some. IF you can find them.

Exactly.   As much as I disagree with @unknown  round here. To his credit he takes the time to find and post many a news and opinion piece here at TBR.  All you do is bitch bitch bitch.  You sound like my first and third ex wife.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Luis Gonzalez on September 10, 2016, 12:26:21 am
You sound like my first and third ex wife.

You married a deaf mute woman?
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 10, 2016, 12:29:20 am
You married a deaf mute woman?
Some days that could have advantages...(Crass, tasteless Helen Keller style joke removed).
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Wingnut on September 10, 2016, 12:47:24 am
You married a deaf mute woman?

What can I say.  She was a freak in the sack.   But you had to let her out for fresh air every now and then.  One Christmas I gave her a Carbon Dioxide detector.  When it would start beeping I knew it was time to let her out.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on September 10, 2016, 12:52:03 am
What can I say.  She was a freak in the sack.   But you had to let her out for fresh air every now and then.  One Christmas I gave her a Carbon Dioxide detector.  When it would start beeping I knew it was time to let her out.

That is love.  My wife was complaining how shoveling the Wisconsin snow was hurting her back, so last Christmas I got her one of those kiddie shovels so she wouldn't have to lift so much at a time.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Wingnut on September 10, 2016, 12:56:09 am
That is love.  My wife was complaining how shoveling the Wisconsin snow was hurting her back, so last Christmas I got her one of those kiddie shovels so she wouldn't have to lift so much at a time.

A Hallmark moment if I have ever heard of one! 
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: DCPatriot on September 10, 2016, 01:03:43 am
Entire Media Freaks Out After Trump Over-Performance in Forum

http://observer.com/2016/09/entire-media-freaks-out-after-trump-over-performance-in-forum/ (http://observer.com/2016/09/entire-media-freaks-out-after-trump-over-performance-in-forum/)



IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE THIS WAY      http://drudgereport.com/ (http://drudgereport.com/)

(http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Hillary+Clinton+Gives+Campaign+Speech+National+Mz93M83WmFwl.jpg)


Another hysterical, BS headline and thread...where people come daily to delude themselves that Trump did poorly.

NBC's own poll gave it 61%-39% Trump.

Meanwhile the big topic of the day in here where you guessed if Ivanka's tits were real.    :whistle:

Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 10, 2016, 02:42:43 am
Entire Media Freaks Out After Trump Over-Performance in Forum

http://observer.com/2016/09/entire-media-freaks-out-after-trump-over-performance-in-forum/ (http://observer.com/2016/09/entire-media-freaks-out-after-trump-over-performance-in-forum/)



IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE THIS WAY      http://drudgereport.com/ (http://drudgereport.com/)

(http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Hillary+Clinton+Gives+Campaign+Speech+National+Mz93M83WmFwl.jpg)


Another hysterical, BS headline and thread...where people come daily to delude themselves that Trump did poorly.

NBC's own poll gave it 61%-39% Trump.

Meanwhile the big topic of the day in here where you guessed if Ivanka's tits were real.    :whistle:
You're right. Trump didn't do poorly. He was a national embarrassment. Our enemies are probably still laughing at his hubris, and already plotting what to do if he wins. He has reached the limit of where BS will carry the day, and isn't apparently bothering to do the homework to go beyond that. If he doesn't get on the stick, even that old hag with her posturing BS is likely to win. He can't just count on the anti-Hillary vote, he has to do something that will give voters a real reason to vote for him, and he just isn't doing it. YMMV (obviously).

Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: DCPatriot on September 10, 2016, 03:16:42 am

You're right. Trump didn't do poorly. He was a national embarrassment. Our enemies are probably still laughing at his hubris, and already plotting what to do if he wins. He has reached the limit of where BS will carry the day, and isn't apparently bothering to do the homework to go beyond that. If he doesn't get on the stick, even that old hag with her posturing BS is likely to win. He can't just count on the anti-Hillary vote, he has to do something that will give voters a real reason to vote for him, and he just isn't doing it. YMMV (obviously).


He was a "national embarrassment" because what he said, didn't fit your preset ideological tenets. 

We get that you don't like him and think him a buffoon.

We got it way back 2500+ posts ago.   :laugh:


Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: XenaLee on September 10, 2016, 03:19:30 am
Trump....doing his damnedest to turn off yet more voters and convince them that he's a loose cannon, to say the least.

Quote
Donald Trump warned that he would order the Navy to open fire on Iranian boats that provoke American ships, days after a high-seas incident that ended peacefully.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-i-would-shoot-confrontational-iranian-ships/ar-AAiItNd?li=BBnb7Kz
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: sinkspur on September 10, 2016, 03:22:58 am
Entire Media Freaks Out After Trump Over-Performance in Forum

http://observer.com/2016/09/entire-media-freaks-out-after-trump-over-performance-in-forum/ (http://observer.com/2016/09/entire-media-freaks-out-after-trump-over-performance-in-forum/)



IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE THIS WAY      http://drudgereport.com/ (http://drudgereport.com/)

(http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Hillary+Clinton+Gives+Campaign+Speech+National+Mz93M83WmFwl.jpg)


Another hysterical, BS headline and thread...where people come daily to delude themselves that Trump did poorly.

NBC's own poll gave it 61%-39% Trump.

Meanwhile the big topic of the day in here where you guessed if Ivanka's tits were real.    :whistle:

DC, you know better than that.

The NBC poll was a CALL IN, SELF-SELECTING poll, like those pathetic Drudge polls after the debates.

THey're worthless.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 10, 2016, 03:25:05 am
He was a "national embarrassment" because what he said, didn't fit your preset ideological tenets. 

We get that you don't like him and think him a buffoon.

We got it way back 2500+ posts ago.   :laugh:
:hands: :hands: :hands: I'm glad you caught on. I was beginning to think y'all were having some sort of cognitive difficulty.

As for Trump's performance, it was painful to watch, and I'm not even a supporter. I was embarrassed for him:

Y'see:
He's got this seecrit plan. It's better than any plan the generals can come up with because he knows ISIS better than the generals. Of course, he can't mention the seecrit plan because, well, it's seecrit and that would give it away.

 :facepalm2:

Yep. Buffoon fits.

Largely ignorant of the subject matter, evasive, nonspecific, and trying to bluster his way through how he'd handle national security.

Ideologically speaking, I'd prefer someone who knew what the hell was going on, could rely on those who knows more than they do, and will pick the brains of everyone from bird colonel up and senior NCOs (at a minimum) to come up with the most effective way to deal with threats militarily.
Even more so, I would prefer someone with the temperament and judgement to avoid unnecessary conflict and the wisdom to stay out of other countries' civil wars. It is not enough to know how to intervene, one must have the judgement to know when to do so.

as for the rest, is he going to privatize the VA or not?
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: XenaLee on September 10, 2016, 03:31:38 am
:hands: :hands: :hands: I'm glad you caught on. I was beginning to think y'all were having some sort of cognitive difficulty.

As for Trump's performance, it was painful to watch, and I'm not even a supporter. I was embarrassed for him:

Y'see:
He's got this seecrit plan. It's better than any plan the generals can come up with because he knows ISIS better than the generals. Of course, he can't mention the seecrit plan because, well, it's seecrit and that would give it away.

 :facepalm2:

Yep. Buffoon fits.

They're probably wishing, right about now, that Trump would keep his seecrit plan about how he would deal with Iranian ships a seecrit.   :silly:
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 10, 2016, 03:35:47 am
They're probably wishing, right about now, that Trump would keep his seecrit plan about how he would deal with Iranian ships a seecrit.   :silly:
When the gloves come off, and you're in a bare knuckle fight, it isn't a good time to telegraph your punches.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: XenaLee on September 10, 2016, 03:45:53 am
When the gloves come off, and you're in a bare knuckle fight, it isn't a good time to telegraph your punches.

No, but in reality.....considering how Trump always blusters and bluffs until confronted....and then he backs off and assumes a 'softer' and gentler approach (lolol)....

I'm sure our enemies are laughing themselves silly (and pointing) at that small threat called Trump.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 10, 2016, 03:50:18 am
No, but in reality.....considering how Trump always blusters and bluffs until confronted....and then he backs off and assumes a 'softer' and gentler approach (lolol)....

I'm sure our enemies are laughing themselves silly (and pointing) at that small threat called Trump.
After that, they're shaking in their boots.....


they're laughing so hard.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: Hoodat on September 10, 2016, 04:34:18 am
Entire Media Freaks Out After Trump Over-Performance in Forum
Another hysterical, BS headline and thread...where people come daily to delude themselves that Trump did poorly.

Unlike the lead post that actually addresses what Trump said, your Observer piece only goes after the MSM while completely ignoring the substance of Trump's words.  But then you probably knew that already before trying to BS the rest of us into thinking that the Observer piece contradicts the lead post.  It doesn't.
Title: Re: Trump Bombs And Delivers Historically Terrible Performance At Commander In Chief Forum
Post by: EC on September 10, 2016, 07:03:18 am
Hey, at least the Observer was decent enough to admit it's run by Trump's son-in-law.  :tongue2: